Hour 2 – Dead Men Talking, Cris Collinsworth

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 2 – “Dead Men Talking,” with Chris Collinsworth

Date: August 25, 2025
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network
Episode Focus:

• Misadventures in digital memorials (keeping and texting numbers of deceased contacts)
• NFL and college football stories as the season nears
• Deep-dive interview with Chris Collinsworth (Sunday Night Football analyst): QB development, offensive innovation, and the upcoming Eagles vs. Cowboys game

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Episode Overview

Hour two of The Dan Patrick Show blends humor, audience engagement, and football insight. The crew debates the oddities of maintaining (and even texting) the phone numbers of deceased friends or family, drawing a flood of caller stories and strong opinions. A highlight is Dan’s extended, freewheeling interview with NBC’s Chris Collinsworth, covering rookie QBs, evolving NFL offenses, and franchise strategy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Poll Questions: "Dead Men Talking" Phone Habits

• [03:49–04:14] The show’s poll:

  • Do you keep the numbers of people who have passed away on your phone?
    • 76% say yes
  • Is texting a deceased person’s number to say hello healthy?
    • 77% say no

• Conversation Highlights:

  • Most of the crew admits to keeping numbers, though Dan’s story about texting a passed friend and receiving a reply (from the deceased’s son) triggers laughs and awkwardness.

    • Quote (Dan, 04:49): “I text somebody who had passed away and his son had the phone and his son text me back... I get a message back, ‘thanks.’ And then I find out later that he wasn't sure what to say back to me because he didn't want me to think, like, Tom's texting me from wherever.”

  • The topic devolves into Todd’s attempts to psychoanalyze closure, leading to Dan’s hilarious pushback.

    • Quote (Dan, 07:18): “We're not doing this. We're not doing this. I told you what I do.”
    • Quote (Paulie, 07:42): (reading social posts) “This person said, ‘I have several voicemails from my dad; miss you, Pop.’ So now that guy's reaching out to his dad through our Twitter.”

• [09:00] Callers validate Dan’s approach, sharing stories about keeping numbers as memorials.

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2. Best and Worst of the Weekend (Audience Calls and Rapid-Fire Sports Talk)

• [09:42, 10:53, 12:02] Listeners call in with their "Best and Worst" moments:

  • Morgan in Maryland: Adorable story about his 4-year-old son embarrassing the family during a fishing tournament.
  • Matt in South Bend: Coordination for the upcoming USC vs. Notre Dame tailgate.
  • Dustin in Alabama: Shout out to Alabama QB Riley Leonard and a jab at Auburn for self-proclaimed titles, referencing sports media “self-claiming” awards in jest.

• Dan Patrick to callers:

  • Quote (10:41): “Four. I thought if you're going to say he's 12, then maybe we have an issue there.”

• [13:39–14:56] Quickfire college football history debate (Auburn’s “self-claimed” titles), Scott Van Pelt’s satirical award claim, presidential interventions in championship designations.

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3. Comedy Interludes & Running Gags

• Todd's Word Count: The Danettes roast Todd for getting lost in his own explanations.
  • Quote (Paulie, 06:51): “Have you ever heard of the phrase putting your foot in your mouth? Yeah, that was an example of it, Todd.”
  • Cone of Silence and Gong Bits: Physical comedy with malfunctioning office props, gongs, and the infamous “cone of silence” come into play, poking fun at their own show rituals.
    • Quote (Dan, 17:14): “If you're watching on Peacock. Here goes Todd. ... Man. It's not working, Todd. Sorry.”

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4. Feature Interview: Chris Collinsworth on NFL, QBs, and Eagles vs. Cowboys

Timestamps: [24:29–42:24]

A. Life as a Pro Bowler, Howard Cosell Anecdote

• Collinsworth recalls the Pro Bowl’s former physicality and stakes.
  • Quote (Chris, 24:43): “People got ripped... if you won, you got 10 grand, if you lost, you got 5 grand and you lost money on the week.”
• Shares a hilarious, slightly humiliating moment in Speedos with Mark Gastineau and banter with Cosell.
  • Quote (Chris, 26:22): “...I looked over at Gastonau, looked down at myself…‘Howard, I’ve never felt so humiliated in my entire life.’”

B. Rookie Quarterbacks – Challenges and Lessons

• Big Issue: Holding onto the ball too long, college habits don’t translate.
  • Quote (Chris, 27:50): “Shador Sanders was a really good player in college football when he got the ball out of his hands...when he got it out in under 2.5 seconds, that guy could really play.”
• NFL demands quick, rhythmic passing—don’t emulate Mahomes/Josh Allen improvisation unless you’re them.

C. Coaching and Developing Young QBs

• Teaching quick reads: Some coaches use a 2.5 second horn in practice to train throw-timing.
  • Quote (Chris, 29:29): “I've seen them blow a horn at 2.5 seconds... all you’re doing is inviting more pressure [if you hold it].”

D. NFL Contract/Business Side (Micah Parsons Situation)

• Warns about players negotiating with owners—an uneven matchup; Jerry Jones knows how to leverage player comments about “taking less.”
  • Quote (Chris, 32:27): “There is no way I’m letting Micah Parsons anywhere near Jerry Jones. ...Those guys are trained killers, right? I mean, they are billionaires. They know how to negotiate deals.”

E. Quarterback Rankings: Where does Jalen Hurts fit?

• Hurts’ path is unique: Benched at Alabama, transfers, second-round “reach,” now tremendous leader and red-zone specialist for Eagles.
  • Quote (Chris, 34:41): “He’s probably the most serious minded football player I’ve ever met…he is all in for his teammates.”
  • Quote (Chris, 35:41): “The game starts in two situations: red zone and short yards. What does this guy do better than anybody else?...He scores touchdowns and converts third downs…”

F. Adapting NFL Offenses to QBs

• NFL now builds offenses for their QBs (cites Cam, Mahomes, Allen, Lamar).
  • Quote (Chris, 37:08): “Now it feels like you’re catering your offense... We want to cater our offense to your strengths.”
• Lamar as a case study—a franchise built the offense for Lamar Jackson’s skill set (contrasting with era where QBs had to fit the system).

G. Team to Watch: Chicago Bears

• Most curious about the Bears, Caleb Williams’ NFL transition, Ben Johnson’s challenge in installing a more traditional/pro-style offense for a shotgun-bred QB.
  • Quote (Chris, 38:41): “Ben Johnson’s a really good coach. He’s got a really talented quarterback... I just—it'll be interesting to see whether Caleb can become an under center quarterback.”

H. Tradition v. Shotgun (Quarterbacking Techniques)

• Fewer QBs know how to play under center—the obsession with shotgun begins in high school and 7-on-7s.
  • Quote (Chris, 41:05): “I think it’s what they know…they've gotten used to [the shotgun]. What they can't do is the reverse: drop back and get themselves set.”

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5. Final Sports Riffing: Stats, Little League, Weekends

• [47:36–51:20] Crew shares "Best/Worst" sports moments: Maria Sharapova’s Hall of Fame induction, adult tackle leagues, UNLV RB Jet Thomas, the Little League World Series, and a tutorial on what an actuary does.

  • Quote (Dan, 50:57): “I just thought it was like it. It had to do with mathematical stuff…when you look at potential losses and gains.”
  • Quote (Paulie, 51:32): “Actuaries use math, statistics and financial theory to analyze economic risk and uncertainty...”

• Historic pitching stats for Paul Skeens; the show’s affection for random sports facts and unsung heroes continues.

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Notable Quotes

• Dan Patrick, on accidental posthumous texts:
  "You actually get a text message from somebody who's passed away their phone and it just said, 'thanks.' Could have been an emoji. I would appreciate a good emoji from somebody who's passed away." (04:49)

• Chris Collinsworth, on NFL negotiations:
  "Those guys are trained killers, right? I mean, they are billionaires. They know how to negotiate deals." (32:27)

• Chris Collinsworth, on Jalen Hurts:
  "He's probably the most serious minded football player I've ever met...He scores touchdowns and he converts third downs. Some of them with his arm, some of them with his legs, some of them with just sheer power or...his audibles." (34:41, 35:41)

• Dan Patrick, on college football history warping into modern sports debates:
  "Didn't one year President Nixon declare Texas the national champ? Could you see President Trump, you know, doing that? Yes, I saw where he is trying to get Roger Clemens in the hall of fame." (14:30)

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Important Timestamps

• [03:49] – Poll Questions: Keeping (and texting) deceased contacts
• [09:00–13:01] – Best and Worst of the Weekend calls
• [24:29–42:24] – Chris Collinsworth Interview
  • [26:22] – Speedo/Superstars story
  • [27:50, 29:29] – Rookie QB analysis/coaching
  • [32:27] – Negotiating with Jerry Jones/Micah Parsons
  • [34:41–35:41] – Jalen Hurts' mentality/red zone skills
  • [37:08] – Offensive innovation
  • [38:41] – Bears and Caleb Williams
• [47:36–51:20] – Best/Worst of the Weekend, Little League, actuary explanation

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Tone & Style

The hour blends signature DP Show humor and irreverence (dead-men-talking, gongs, anti-therapy rants), easy rapport among the Danettes, and crisp NFL insight from Collinsworth. Quips, sarcastic rejoinders, and “dad radio” authenticity abound.

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Who Should Listen?

• Sports fans craving football analysis with character and wit
• Listeners curious about NFL quarterback development
• Anyone who’s ever wondered if it’s weird to keep—or text—a deceased loved one’s phone number
• Fans of Chris Collinsworth and offbeat sports radio banter

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Transcript

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Paulie]

This is a controversial grouping of poll questions. Do you keep the numbers of people who have passed away on your phone? Right now, 76% of the audience say yes. And then the addition or addendum to that was. Is texting the number of someone who has died to say hello a healthy thing to do?

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paulie]

Right now, 77% of the audience say no.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay. So I'm, I'm in the majority on the first one. In the minority of the second one.

[Paulie]

Yeah, I, I don't like when, when somebody I know dies, I don't even think of, oh, I should take their number out of my phone. I just, it isn't even part of the, the thought process. Maybe occasionally you'll like be looking for someone's phone number and that'll pop up or something. But I don't actively seek to remove it. But I also don't think, ah, let me keep it on here, though, because it's fun.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. But imagine this happening because it did. I text somebody who had passed away and his son had the phone and his son text me back. But I don't, I don't know that his son has the phone. I'm just saying, hey, Tom, thinking of you and whatever. And I get a message back, thanks. And then I find out later that he wasn't sure what to say back to me because he didn't want me to think, like, Tom's texting me from wherever. And so it was kind of awkward where you actually get a text message from somebody who's passed away their phone and it just said, thanks. Could have been an emoji. I would appreciate a good emoji from somebody who's passed away. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of this program. So big weekend college football next weekend. NFL preseason is over and the cuts will be happening. They took place over the weekend as well. We'll talk to Chris Collinsworth as he gets ready for the Eagles and the Cowboys. Is he preparing for Micah Parsons to be preparing for the Eagles? So we'll talk to Chris coming up. What's the poll question? We're going with an hour to Seton.

[Paulie]

Well, the commentary surrounding this one is great. Many people have suggested that Todd has surpassed his limit of words for Monday and that maybe Todd should be shut down.

[Dan Patrick]

You should be on a word count sometimes, like you should be.

[Todd]

Was that a lot of words?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, you took forever to really tell me what you really felt in that. It was kind of weird that I text my mom or text, you know, a couple people that were friends who passed away.

[Todd]

I think I was working it out in my head as I was talking aloud. That was part of the problem. I didn't really kind of put it together and then present it as an argument. I was just kind of going with the flow.

[Dan Patrick]

Why don't you prepare, like, a statement.

[Todd]

Out press release about my thoughts on a given topic?

[Paulie]

Have you ever heard of the phrase putting your foot in your mouth? Yeah, that was an example of it. Todd.

[Todd]

Yeah, I probably put both feet in my head. Amazing how you could even understand any of the words with a unclear.

[Dan Patrick]

I asked you, I think, three times. I don't know what you're saying.

[Todd]

Sometimes I'm not sure what I'm saying. Yeah, I do think a psychologist or psychiatrist might say you need to close the chapter on your friend or family member and it's okay. You're not, like, deleting them from your life and your memories and.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, we're not doing this. We're not doing this. I. I told you what I do.

[Paulie]

Feels like we are.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't want you. I don't care what your op opinion is, Todd.

[Todd]

You don't?

[Dan Patrick]

No, I do not.

[Todd]

That's a little insensitive.

[Dan Patrick]

No. Oh, that's. That's insensitive. But not you criticizing me for being weird.

[Todd]

What a Strange guy.

[Dan Patrick]

You thought you were doing that. Keep the number. Yes, Seaton.

[Paulie]

We're now getting, like, posts from people on social media commenting on this saying, like this person said, I have several voicemails from my dad. Semicolon. Miss you, Pop. So now that guy's reaching out to his dad through our Twitter.

[Dan Patrick]

Posting his.

[Paulie]

Messages to his dad just in case. Dad scrolling the timeline.

[Dan Patrick]

You never know. You never know what, Todd?

[Todd]

I guess it's possible that some people. You see it on Datelight. Like, some people fake their death, and maybe they're actually alive. And in your case, the son responded.

[Dan Patrick]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Todd]

Maybe. Is there a chance that some of these people are alive?

[Dan Patrick]

My mom is dead.

[Todd]

But in some cases, someone could respond, no, I'm only t. I've been Tahiti, hiding from everyone, and I couldn't take it anymore. I couldn.

[Dan Patrick]

Damn.

[Todd]

This is between us. I'm still alive. But don't share this with anyone.

[Paulie]

Other people are commenting about how you do realize that phone numbers are reassigned to new people who are now getting your text messages and probably just ignoring them.

[Dan Patrick]

That's okay.

[Paulie]

Not. Not you specifically, just in general. People who do those kinds of things.

[Dan Patrick]

All righty. Tom in Ohio. Hi, Tom. What's on your mind today?

[Caller]

Dan? How are you?

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, I'm great.

[Caller]

First time, long time, 6 foot, 190. Hey, Dan. I just want to chime in. I did the same thing. I've got friends and family members and did it pass. And I keep their number in my phone because it's. For me, it's a way of remembering them and a good or bad emotion or a good or bad memory, it's. It's just a way to memorialize them. And I love it. So you're not doing anything wrong in my. In my book.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, thank you, Tom. I appreciate that. I feel better now. Take that, Todd.

[Todd]

Oh, you care about Tom in Ohio's opinion. I'm working with you 23 years. You shut me down.

[Dan Patrick]

Morgan in Maryland. Good morning, Morgan.

[Caller]

Good morning, D.P. so I got best and worst of the weekend. Best of the weekend. I'm actually a little further north than you guys in Barry, New Hampshire, at my friend's lake house for about five days with the kids. Just like paddle boarding and on the bo. Morning coffees on the dock. It's pretty sweet, and I like it up here.

[Dan Patrick]

Awesome.

[Caller]

Worst weekend. It's kind of tied to that. My son has, you know, discovered that when he's outside, he can kind of pee wherever, but he's when I say wherever he's not going to like a bush or a tree. So yesterday morning he drops trowel off of the dock and I'm saying like he drops trowel and holds his shirt up. He's not holding anything. He's just letting it rain. And there must have been like a bass fishing tournament going on because we're in like a no wake zone and there must have been 10, 15 boats that just came out slowly going by and seeing my son just letting it rain off the dock and I'm just standing there with my coffee like, hello, good morning.

[Dan Patrick]

How old is he?

[Caller]

He's four.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay. Four. I thought if you're going to say he's 12, then maybe we have an issue there. But thank you, Morgan. Enjoy the scenery there. Matt in South Bend. Hi, Matt. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Good morning, Dan and Dan Ette. Best of the weekend was I played golf with the Miller Light distributor and just wanted to give you guys the update. We are set to go for the tailgate. I got the spot all figured out and it's going to be a little private corner so you guys can be hidden a little bit if you want. And looking forward to getting you to South Bend.

[Dan Patrick]

We will be out there for usc, Notre Dame. Thank you, Matt. We look forward to that and we'll, we'll give you details. We got a little bit of time before we get out there, but we'll try to give you details if you're coming out. We were going to do Thursday and Friday from outside the stadium, but we'll let you know because I'm sure college game day is going to be out there. So we're going to have to pick our spot so we don't get trampled there. But that'll be fun going back out there again.

[Paul]

Yeah, Paulie, that's like mid October, right?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Is it mid to late October 15th.

[Todd]

The game is the 18th.

[Dan Patrick]

18Th. Okay.

[Paul]

That's prime weather.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I am. Foliage. All foliage. Yes. Right up your alley. Dustin in Alabama. Hi, Dustin. Best and worst of the weekend.

[Caller]

Morning. Quick best investor and then two really quick questions. Best was my alma maters fair up Alabama's Riley Leonard for the Indianapolis Colts going 15 to 20 with a bomb. 189 yards and a touchdown. Bester spent my Sunday yesterday cleaning, organizing my garage and getting some cabinets put up on the wall that was much overdue. Two quick questions. South Alabama Boyd down at the beach all the time. I am going to Toledo, Ohio in about two weeks. For some level three first tee golf, coach training, and I've never been anywhere near that part of the country. So looking for some suggestions and then last question. I never heard last week anything get mentioned about Auburn self proclaiming seven national titles. So just thinking maybe that's something y' all could do with the sports Emmy and. Yeah, suck it. Auburn and Mason roll top.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, thank you. Dustin. Yeah. I can't help you if you get up to what, Toledo? Yeah. I'm from Southern Ohio, but if you get a chance to go to Canton, you can go to Canton hall of Fame. Yeah. Paul.

[Paul]

Yeah. Last week the ad at Auburn claimed self claimed the 1910, 1914, the 1958 and the 04 national title. They really got jobbed in 04, 1910. I don't recall, but it was pretty funny.

[Dan Patrick]

It's still amazing that Gene Chiswick won a national championship. You know, Cam Newton. Cam Newton.

[Paul]

Did you see the response by our buddy Scott Van Pelt? He self claimed the 2020 Sports Emmy for best studio host.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, he did.

[Paul]

Yes. And his show. Because they played through during the pandemic as we did. And so he self claimed the 2020.

[Dan Patrick]

No, he. He deserved. Yes, he deserved it.

[Paul]

He didn't get Senior Night.

[Dan Patrick]

He deserved that. But so did we. We were here every single day.

[Paulie]

Three hours a day.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, Three hours. Not one hour.

[Chris Collinsworth]

Just saying.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, we did three, Scott.

[Chris Collinsworth]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Not one part of the interruption is a half hour. Not even that. It's like 22 minutes.

[Paulie]

I think he was up for host. We would be up for show so he could get his. We could get ours.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm fine with that. Yeah. Yeah. Because he's a good host. We're a great show. Yeah, Paul.

[Paul]

Or we could be co champions like Georgia Tech and Colorado, 1990.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Can't do that. Can't do that. Didn't one year President Nixon declare Texas the national champ? Like the pres Era. Could you see President Trump, you know, doing that? Yes, I saw where he is trying to get Roger Clemens in the hall of fame. Really? Yes, man. I think so.

[Paulie]

Just like Pete Rose.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Yeah. Yes, Paulie.

[Paul]

So before the game, it was Texas versus Arkansas, 1969. President Richard Nixon declared the winner of the game will be the national title holder. And Penn State was upset. They were in a different ball game.

[Dan Patrick]

They were disappointed or they were upset?

[Paul]

Oh, disappointed.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Mario in El Paso. Hey, Mario.

[Caller]

Hey, dad. How you doing?

[Dan Patrick]

Good.

[Caller]

632-4-0. So I was telling your screener that we're really close to the border over here. I'm a public address announcer. And so, you know, the Hawaii thing is like a really local thing here. Whenever you got to say somebody's like, first and last name, you know, I'll be like, first down, Carlos Navarrete. Right. Like, you really have to enunciate. Yeah, the Spanish flavor.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Caller]

And I. I'm wondering if the Hawaii thing is kind of like a local thing, but I don't be like, Carlos, you know, one of those things. But anyway, just wanted to share that with you.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, thank you. Thank you, Mario. Of course. That clears things up. Terry in Kentucky. Hi, Terry. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, Dan, Just want to let you know I got a text from Chuck Berries. He want to know what the hell took so long to go Fritz.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay. The guy who was the host of the Gong Show.

[Todd]

Very nice.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, he brought it back.

[Todd]

I liked how he brought that.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, he did. Dead guy. And then I had to gong.

[Todd]

You covered a lot of area with that.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, that was. That was, I thought, a timely purchase. I said to the big German, I need a gong to gong Fritzi. And he goes, okay. And you'd be surprised. There are a lot of gongs available on the Internet.

[Paul]

Trafficking.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I don't know, like, you know, illegal gongs. Contraband. Yes. Marvin. So now with the.

[Chris Collinsworth]

The gong in your studio.

[Dan Patrick]

Yep.

[Todd]

Do you not use the cone of silence any longer?

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, I can use that sometimes. I. I kind of have to remember to do that. Todd gets claustrophobic when I do the cone of silence. And let me see. I don't even know if I got batteries in here to see if it works. So if you're watching, it's working. Sweat. If you're watching on Peacock. Here goes Todd.

[Todd]

But if, you know, that's how it makes me.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Todd]

Are you okay for about another eight to ten seconds? I'll be fine.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, I'm gonna go 11 seconds. Two.

[Todd]

Yeah, I'm really not enjoying this right now.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, let me see if it'll go up. Oh, darn. These batteries, they're tricky. I think it's frozen. You know what? I'll work on this tomorrow. Todd.

[Paulie]

That'S not going up.

[Dan Patrick]

It's not going. Damn batteries. All right, I'm going to find it. I'll see if I can. Man. It's not working, Todd. Sorry.

[Todd]

Gotta be a button that works there. Press all the buttons, and one of them makes this go up. It has to be.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, we're gonna take a break and let me see if I can get this fixed. Chris Collins were set to join us coming up next year on the Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis and together we're.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio.

[Dan Patrick]

You can catch us weekdays from 5.

[Ryan Seacrest]

To 7p Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich?

[Dan Patrick]

We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Dan Patrick]

To have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out.

[Manny]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Manny]

Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this.

[Dan Patrick]

Attention passengers.

[Caller]

The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone to land this plane.

[Manny]

Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying like, okay, pull this until this, pull that, turn this. It's just I can do my eyes closed. I'm Manny.

[Paul]

I'm Noah.

[Dan Patrick]

This is Devin.

[Manny]

And on our new show, no Such Thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence.

[Dan Patrick]

Those who lack expertise lack the expertise.

[Chris Collinsworth]

They need to recognize that they lack expertise.

[Manny]

And then as we try the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the Runway. I'm looking at this thing.

[Dan Patrick]

See?

[Manny]

Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

December 29, 1975, LaGuardia Airport.

[Commercial Announcer]

The holiday rush. Parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then at 6:33pm everything changed.

[Chris Collinsworth]

There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Apparently the the explosion actually impelled metal glass. The injured were being loaded into ambulances.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Just a chaotic, chaotic scene.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[John Lithgow]

Hello, I'm John Lithgow.

[Dan Patrick]

We choose to go to the moon.

[John Lithgow]

I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast.

[Caller]

That's One Small Step for Man is.

[John Lithgow]

About Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space.

[Todd]

You're a great pilot, Buzz.

[Chris Collinsworth]

As far as I'm concerned, the best.

[John Lithgow]

I've seen that's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't predisposition.

[Commercial Announcer]

To depression, alcohol abuse and suicide.

[John Lithgow]

We'll see Buzz try to overcome demons.

[Chris Collinsworth]

What do you say?

[Dan Patrick]

Buzz?

[John Lithgow]

Another beer and triumph over addiction.

[Commercial Announcer]

Who's to you?

[Dan Patrick]

Buzz Aldrin.

[John Lithgow]

Good luck to you and become a true hero.

[Dan Patrick]

Buzz and I will proceed into the.

[John Lithgow]

Lunar module not because he conquers space, but because he conquers himself.

[Todd]

Buzz, we intercepted a Soviet radio transmission.

[John Lithgow]

Starring me, John Lithgow.

[Todd]

Can you put it through?

[John Lithgow]

Can you Translate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

Columbia, More phone calls coming up. Destin Worst of the Weekend Rick Neuheisel. He'll recap college football from this weekend, but also look ahead to who he thinks will win the SEC in the Big Ten and when we're headed to a 24 or 2018 playoff that'll be coming up in an hour from now. Chris Collinsworth, Football Night in America Sunday Night Football analyst and played wide receiver in the NFL for eight seasons, three time Pro Bowler. Chris yeah, yeah.

[Chris Collinsworth]

First alternate a few times, too.

[Dan Patrick]

Does that count?

[Chris Collinsworth]

No.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Chris Collinsworth]

But that's when it, you know, it's peacock. I can throw that in, you know.

[Dan Patrick]

But it meant something back then to be a Pro Bowl.

[Chris Collinsworth]

You know, the game was hard back then. I mean, people got got ripped. I mean, if you remember, there have been a few plays, just explosive, just kind of shots. But we were playing for real money back then. It was either if you won, you got 10 grand, if you lost, you got 5 grand and you lost money on the week. So that was a deal. I mean, you were playing.

[Dan Patrick]

We were playing Chris and Company Sunday Night Football. It'll be on Thursday night. Next Thursday night, Cowboys and the Eagles. And 17 seasons as an analyst on the primetime. Howard Cosell is second with 14 seasons in primetime. I didn't know that.

[Chris Collinsworth]

Well, that's a sure sign I'm getting old as hell, brother.

[Dan Patrick]

Congratulations.

[Chris Collinsworth]

I love Howard, though. Did you know him at all? Did you know Howard Crusoe at all.

[Dan Patrick]

Late in his life? I met him a couple of times and one was kind of a sad moment. He couldn't pour water. He couldn't pour his own water because he had Parkinson's. And the other one, he yelled at me for being on the phone when the baseball strike ended. Was this 1984. And I was doing a live report over the phone for cnn. And he yelled at me because it was the only phone that was available. And it came out and he kept Trying. There were three other phones. They didn't work. And I said, you know, Howard, I'm really sorry, but I'm doing this live report on cnn. And he goes, as if the whole world's watching cnn. And then he stormed away, going, I just. I just met Howard Cosell.

[Chris Collinsworth]

That was good. That was good. I had him at the Superstars. And I'm in the swimming competition, which they forced you because they were a sponsor, to wear Speedos. So I'm next to Mark Gastonau, both wearing Speedos. So Curcell is going up and down, you know, doing this thing, hey, I'm Art Gasano, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so he comes to me next and he goes, well, Mr. Collinsworth, what do you think? And I looked down at myself, I looked over at Gastonau, looked down at myself, looked over at Gastonau, and I said, howard, I've never felt so humiliated in my entire life. He went. And that was it. That was great.

[Dan Patrick]

It was like the before and after. You were the before, and Gastonau was the after way before.

[Chris Collinsworth]

It was. It was not good.

[Dan Patrick]

I opened the show talking about rookie quarterbacks and mistakes that they make. And in college, you get the opportunity to extend a play, receivers are open longer, hold on to the ball more. We saw this with Caleb Williams. You know, obviously, we saw it with Shador Sanders. But when you look at film, when you see rookie quarterbacks, what are the things that are really that jump out, that are negative?

[Chris Collinsworth]

Hold the ball. I mean, Shador Sanders was a really good player in college football when he got the ball out of his hands, you think because he's Deion's son, that he's a runaround guy. Right? You would think, in reality, those were his worst plays, when he got the ball and got it out of his hand and under 2.5 seconds, that guy could really play. I mean, it was. It was really impressive. And so my whole thought on him is, is he going to be able to take a step back and say, all right, I like to run around. I like to make plays out of the pocket. But in reality, that's when I was taking sacks. That's when I was turning the ball over. There were some good plays in there, too, but at this level, you've got to get it out of your hand. And that's what we've seen Jackson Dart do. That's what we saw Bo Nix do last year. That's what we see, the young quarterbacks that can come into this league and make an impact right away, because those guys Playing edge. Rushers in the NFL are the greatest athletes in the world. I mean, Those guys are 6, 6 and 270 and run 4 or 5 and, man, don't mess with those guys.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, and getting into a rhythm. And I thought Dylan Gabriel did a really good job, but I think he was programmed to do that in college, where I thought Shador didn't have a good offensive line, did hold onto the ball a little too much, and all else fails, he had Travis Hunter to bail him out. Now you got to get into that rhythm. How do you teach that, though, with young quarterbacks?

[Chris Collinsworth]

I mean, I've seen everything. I've seen them blow a horn at 2.5 seconds, like, so. I've had kids, even in high school, that the idea of they all want to do the same thing. Usually if you're playing quarterback in high school, you are the best athlete in the school, right? So your entire life, you've played tag, you've played freeze tag, you've played all these different games, right? Nobody could catch you. You were the best athlete. So you get on the football field, and what do you know how to do? All right, let me just run around. They can't catch me. And then I'll, you know, make a play. And. And you watch Patrick Mahomes and you watch Lamar Jackson and you watch Josh Allen, and those are the guys that are competing for the MVP of the league. So I want to be able to do that, too. But in reality, if you hold on to it, all you're doing is inviting more pressure. If you get back there in the pocket and you just go, I mean, Jackson dart. I wouldn't. I wouldn't blitz him if he got in the game for anything. Like, I want to see him throw the ball down the field a little bit and read out the defense fully. So, you know, those are the kinds of things that I think the adjustments are there in the National Football League, and Caleb Williams is probably the prime example of that. I think every analyst that went in there and I think, you know, as far as the top games, I'm the only one that wasn't a quarterback. So he heard it from everybody, like, get the ball out of your hands. Like, dude, just get the ball out of your hands. It doesn't matter. Complete 70%, and that's what Ben Johnson's been trying to do with him. Just, hey, 70%. We got to hit seven out of 10 of these, and that's really hard to do. That means a lot of checking down in the. In the NFL, and that's where he's got to get to.

[Dan Patrick]

Are you preparing for Micah Parsons to prepare for the Eagles?

[Chris Collinsworth]

Of course. Of course. I. I mean, are you watching the Netflix thing on the Cowboys? Are you seeing any of that? And of course, the Emmett Smith thing. He held out for the first two games. They lose the first two games. Jerry's been down that road before. We've seen all this. They want to be a show, they want to be all these things. But the problem for Mike is that, you know, they really do control him for the next three years he's under contract and he can be franchise tagged the two years after that. So I don't know what the contract was that he agreed to. It wasn't a great concept to go in and sit down with Jerry Jones and start talking about a contract. It's not a great concept for the players association to allow NFL players in the room to negotiate with NFL owners. Those guys are trained killers, right? I mean, they are billionaires. They know how to negotiate deals. So as an agent, there is no way I'm letting Micah Parsons anywhere near Jerry Jones. I don't even want him to have a private conversation on the field. I don't want any of that stuff. So. But once you do and, you know, man up, he said he was willing to take less earlier, you know, and, you know, whatever it was in the off season when he goes, oh, I'd take less to play for the Cowboys and all that. And Jerry took that and ran with it. And whatever was said behind closed doors, Jerry feels like he has a deal.

[Dan Patrick]

I know we're obsessed with rankings, ranking our quarterbacks. You know, where is Jalen Hurts? Is he a top 10? You know, I don't know where you. I, I'm going against my own philosophy of, you know, kind of acknowledging these lists. But I am curious, since you do have the Eagles with Jalen Hurts, where does he kind of fit in to the pantheon of quarterbacks?

[Chris Collinsworth]

Yeah, I'm not sure that I've seen a story like his. I mean, I remember watching that national championship game when he got benched for two of them. And Tua gets in the game and throws the game winning touchdown pass. They win the national championship. Everybody's going crazy. And I think most of us maybe who are just parents, maybe those are the people. But I was thinking, oh, my God, that kid's career is over. Jalen Hurts. Career is over. He's been a really good player, but there is no way, mentally or emotionally he comes back from this that you just can't have it right, goes off to Oklahoma and I think he did a little bit of what we were just talking about. He had one of the highest completion percentages when he played for Oklahoma. Comes out, gets drafted in the second round. Universally, everybody was panning the pick. Oh, what are you doing? A second round quarterback? You might as well just throw it in the garbage can, whatever. But that's a team that was built around offensive line, built around defensive line. And to watch him and to meet him. You ever met him, you ever just had a conversation with him?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, he's impressive.

[Chris Collinsworth]

He's probably the most serious minded football player I've ever met. I mean, to get a smile out of him, you feel like, you know, you want to have a celebration. But he is all in. He's all in for his teammates. He's not afraid to lead, he's not afraid to put his head down and run. And when we talk about great players, what do we talk about in the NFL? Going from the 20 to the 20. Anybody can do that. You know, if you had any chance at all, you can do that. The game starts in two situations in the red zone and short yards. Right? Those are the two you got to convert on third and fourth down and you got to score touchdowns. When you get to the red zone, you're kicking field goals, you're going to lose in the NFL. And so what does this guy do better than anybody else? A, hits a high percentage, B, can run the ball with. Not. He's not a Lamar Jackson, maybe more of a Josh Allen, kind of a big, strong, physical guy. But he scores touchdowns and he converts third downs. Some of them with his arm, some of them with his legs, some of them with just sheer power or you know, his brain, his audibles. Because he studied the game so much. So it was interesting. I did an interview with Peyton Manning not too long ago and he said that Jalen calls him all the time about how do you operate, what were you thinking here, what do you do there? And he's a real curious guy, but he is, he is a dynamic guy. What I want him is my quarterback. I would take him all day long. Plus, he sets the tone for that physical style of play. I mean, how frustrating would it be for a 300 pound, 350 pound defensive tackle to know he can't stop the quarterback from on a quarterback snake? That's making these teams insane. I mean, they tried to change the frigging rule on him. Yeah, it's making them all crazy out there. So, yeah, I really I think very highly of them.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, what's different now, and you know, this is NFL teams drafted a quarterback and then you had to kind of adopt that team's philosophy of what they do. Now it feels like you're catering your offense, whether it's Cam Newton or Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen. We want to cater our offense to your strengths.

[Chris Collinsworth]

Yeah, Lamar Jackson's probably the top of that list, right?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Chris Collinsworth]

So that was a Ozzy sitting and there's Lamar, last pick in the first round. And as it gets a little closer, he and John Harbaugh are having this conversation and I've talked to both of them about it and basically it was this. Are we going to do this? Because, you know, we've got to change everything that we've ever thought about offense if we're going to do this. If we draft Lamar right here and it's going to be your last pick as a general manager, it's going to be a bit of your legacy. I, Harbo, as the coach, have to totally commit to what he does. Right. And at the time, nobody. I mean, obviously if he's a 32nd pick, everybody else had a chance. They didn't think that highly of him. Right. But the one thing that I thought about him from the beginning was that he was a pocket passer at Louisville. He was. That's what he was. Now he scrambled out of that and he ran and he did different things. So, yeah, I think that in its entirety now, the league is about finding guys who can make those plays, who can escape pass rush, who can gain and convert third downs, strong enough to take a hit, smart enough to know how to run an offense, but have a good enough arm. And those are the guys, to me, those are the guys that are winning championships right now.

[Dan Patrick]

Give me the team you're most curious about.

[Chris Collinsworth]

Probably the Bears. You know, I think it's. It's hard to not want to see what that combination is. Ben Johnson's a really good coach. He's got a really talented quarterback. And Caleb Williams, he stacked them with receivers all around him. Helped him with an offensive line. Joe Tunis over there right now, and. And I think Ben Johnson's that smart. You know, he's like, you know, I hate that we have a rocket scientist in the league and, you know, he's a computer scientist and, you know, so it's like, I don't know how much of that makes a difference or not, but he's a smart guy. And I think that what he did going into Chicago was You know, I'm going to beat him up. You know, I'm going to make his life really miserable. This guy's gotten nil money in college. He drove a fancy car before I ever drove a fancy car in my life. I'm going to beat him up because this is Chicago and they take football very seriously here. And if he can't handle me, he certainly is not going to be able to handle the Green Bay packers and the Minnesota Vikings. Right. So I'm going to beat him up and see whether or not he can take it. But I still believe the hardest thing he's going to have to learn. The part that didn't make any sense to me at the time why Ben took Chicago instead of. It could have had almost any of the jobs is he had a quarterback in Caleb Williams who had I think literally like a dozen snaps in college under center. And so much of what they did in Detroit and the reason they were so successful in Detroit was because they were under center and they ran the football and they very much were part of that offensive line, you know, being the driving force of the team. And then Jared Goff became a good player because he got protected and they ran the football and you can go play action. So you know what they're trying to put in place here. I just, it'll be interesting to see whether Caleb can become an under center quarterback.

[Dan Patrick]

But I don't know why more quarterbacks don't get under center. That, that it takes away the illusion, you know, where you're going to do play action, where you actually are faking or giving to a running back. And can you speak to that of everybody's in, in the gun?

[Chris Collinsworth]

I think it's what they know, you know, they, they've got all these passing camps now when they're in high school and you go seven on seven and you do all that and so nobody's taking the center snap. And I, I can tell, I mean, I played quarterback until I was a sophomore in college when they figured out I couldn't throw it at all. But, so, but just. And I would talk to Kenny Anderson about it. I'm like, what are you watching as you're going back? And he said, I'm, I'm watching the two safety. So if they split, that means one thing. You know, one comes up, one goes back. If they're too deep, that means another thing. I know through my progressions immediately what I'm going to do. And I said, well, why don't you like doing the shotgun? He said, because I got to catch the ball and I'm like, what? He goes, if I catch the ball, I have to take my eyes off of those two safeties. So I think to some extent there you see snaps get bobbled all the time. But they're trying to watch the two safeties, they're trying to see the field, they're trying to catch it without really looking at the football. But they've gotten used to doing that over the years. What they can't do is the reverse of it, which is drop back and get themselves set and be able to make the same kind of reads down the field. It's hard.

[Dan Patrick]

Good to talk to you, excited for the upcoming season and thanks for joining us.

[Chris Collinsworth]

Good talking to you, buddy.

[Dan Patrick]

That's Chris Collinsworth, Pro Football Focus. He's a part of if you're watching on Peacock, he's wearing the colors there. And it'll be 8 Eastern, the NFL kickoff and it'll be the Cowboys and the Eagles. We'll take a break. Our best and worst of the weekend. More phone calls coming up right after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live this Labor Day.

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[Manny]

Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this.

[Dan Patrick]

Attention passengers.

[Caller]

The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone, to land this plane.

[Manny]

Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying, like, okay, pull this.

[Paulie]

Until this.

[Manny]

Pull that, Turn this. It's just I do my eyes closed. I'm Manny.

[Paul]

I'm Noah.

[Dan Patrick]

This is Devin.

[Manny]

And on our new show, no such Thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence.

[Dan Patrick]

Those who lack expertise lack the expertise.

[Chris Collinsworth]

They need to recognize that they lack expertise.

[Manny]

And then as we try the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the Runway. I'm looking at this thing.

[Todd]

See?

[Manny]

Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

December 29, 1975, LaGuardia Airport.

[Commercial Announcer]

The holiday rush. Parents hauling luggage, Kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then at 6:33pm everything changed.

[Chris Collinsworth]

There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Apparently the explosion actually impelled metal glass.

[Dan Patrick]

The injured were being loaded into ambulances.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Just a chaotic, chaotic scene.

[Commercial Announcer]

In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged. And it was here to stay. Terrorism, law and criminal justice system is back in season two. We're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plain sight that's harder to predict and even harder to stop. Listen to the new season of law and criminal justice System on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[John Lithgow]

Hello, I'm John Lithgow.

[Dan Patrick]

We choose to go to the moon.

[John Lithgow]

I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast.

[Caller]

That's one small step for man.

[John Lithgow]

It's about Buzz. Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space.

[Todd]

You're a great pilot, Buzz.

[Chris Collinsworth]

As far as I'm concerned, the best.

[John Lithgow]

I've seen, that's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't predisposition.

[Commercial Announcer]

To depression, alcohol abuse and suicide.

[John Lithgow]

We'll see Buzz try to overcome demons.

[Chris Collinsworth]

What do you say Buzz another beer.

[John Lithgow]

And triumph over addiction.

[Chris Collinsworth]

Here's to you, Buzz Aldrin.

[John Lithgow]

Good luck to ya and become a true hero.

[Dan Patrick]

Buzz and I will proceed into the.

[John Lithgow]

Lunar module not because he conquers space, but because he conquers himself.

[Todd]

Buzz we intercepted a Soviet radio transmission.

[John Lithgow]

Starring me, John Lithgow.

[Todd]

Can you put it through Translate on.

[John Lithgow]

The iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts?

[Dan Patrick]

Columbia Best and Worst of the Weekend.

[Todd]

Todd Best of the Weekend At Maria Sharapova's International Tennis hall of Fame enshrine Midnight, Serena Williams came out to surprise her, calling her a formal rival, former fan and forever friend. She added this, which I thought was sweet. There are only a few players in my career who challenged me to be the very best. Every single time we stepped out on the court, Maria Sharapova was one of them. Whenever I saw her name next to mine in the draw, I made sure I practiced harder. Worst of the Weekend after some pushing and shoving during the team's final preseason game Saturday night, Bucks rookie safety Shiloh Sanders gets ejected late in the second quarter to throwing a punch at Bill tight end Zach Davidson. He was cut by Tampa yesterday.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I guess there's still a chance that he could come back to the team, but you know, they cut him after the game. Seaton Best and Worst Best thing I.

[Paulie]

Saw this weekend There are these. I'm trying to find some good video. Maybe I'll do a look in on it. But there are these adult tackle football leagues popping up all over the place. It's like U37 or something or U40 or whatever. And it's a bunch of older dudes in varying degrees of shape. It is simultaneously the most brutal thing and most hilarious thing I've seen in a long time. Partially disturbing. Partially.

[Dan Patrick]

Just the best entertaining. Yes.

[Paulie]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paulie Full pads, full pads, full hitting, full everything. ACLs flying all over the place. It is just amazing. And these dudes take off their helmets and, you know, gray in their beards and everything.

[Chris Collinsworth]

It's so good.

[Paulie]

It is so good. My kind of don't really understand, but I'm sure it is a big deal. A lot of controversy coming out of the US Open and especially the start time starting on Sunday rather than Monday. I don't know if that's just a tradition issue or if there are actual, like competitive reasons for it.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I didn't even know the US Open started. It's like all of a sudden I saw some matches or results and a controversy with a photographer A photographer is a controversy.

[Paulie]

Booing.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know. Quiet Marvin. Best and worst thank Best of the weekend.

[Todd]

UNLV running back Jet Thomas had a big night.

[Dan Patrick]

10 carries, 147 yards, three touchdowns.

[Chris Collinsworth]

His.

[Dan Patrick]

His real name's not Jet, it's Jaden. But they just call him Jet Worst of the weekend cuz he's fast. That's what. Correct. Your team, my team, everyone's team. The Colorado Rockies. They lost to the Pirates.

[Todd]

They officially eliminated from playoff contention.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, Paul. Best and worst.

[Paul]

Best of the weekend, Hawaii beating Stanford in football. And the quarterback for Hawaii, Micah ELOJEDO. He's only 5, 10, 27, 39, 210, two touchdowns with a really bum foot. He was laboring in the second half. So Alejedo for Hawaii and then the Little League World Series. I don't know which team or which player it was, but they put like favorite band on their bios or favorite foods. What you want to be when you grow up is often on the graphic. And this young man wanted to be an actuary and it got quite the response in the booth because it was non traditional. An actuary.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, Todd, do you know what an actuary does?

[Todd]

I thought it was either something tax related or some kind of legal thing, but I don't know. I couldn't guess anything more specific than something legal or handling something taxes.

[Dan Patrick]

I just thought it was like it. It had to do with mathematical stuff and, and un. Like I think when you look at law, potential losses and gains and then you have to kind of guess on that.

[Paulie]

Maybe it has to do with insurance. Right.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know.

[Paulie]

I think, I think an actuary works in insurance.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, that would make sense. If they're looking at risk, that is. Does that sound right, Paul?

[Paul]

Yeah, I think collectively we're right.

[Todd]

Ish.

[Paul]

Actuaries use math, statistics and financial theory to analyze economic risk and uncertainty most commonly in the insurance companies for risk tables going forward.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, all right.

[Paul]

I think we got it.

[Dan Patrick]

Ish. Yeah, I think we did better than Carl Ravage did and the Little league crew when they were talking about it. Do you have a worst of the weekend, Paul? No.

[Paul]

Two best. No.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh. Two besters. Okay, that's great. I saw these Paul Skeen's numbers, man. These are historical numbers that he's putting up. The live ball era in baseball started 1920. The lowest ERA in the first 50 starts for a pitcher in the history of the game. Vita Blue 2.01 second on the list is Paul Skeens 2.02 lowest ERA in the first 50 starts of a career. How about the best whip? The lowest whip in the first 50 starts in the history of Major League Baseball. Paul schemes is number one. Highest strikeout rate. This is the first 50 starts of a career. Paul Skeens is in the top 10. I mean these are, these are incredible numbers. He has the 10th lowest batting average for the first 50 starts in in the history of the game. Slow. The slugging percentage against him is the the 18th lowest in baseball history. Remarkable. And he's a.500 pitcher, well in record. And this year, while he's playing for the Pirates, we'll talk some football. Rick Neuheisel will stop by. Are we going to a 242018 playoff? Who's winning the SEC? Who's winning the Big Ten? Find out next.

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