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Malcolm Butler
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Dan Patrick
Guaranteed Human. You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. It's hour two. It's a meat Friday. Another great crowd here joining us as we're opposite the Oracle Park, McCovey Cove. And again, thank you to the San Francisco Giants for their hospitality all week long. Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the program. Day 1 Winter Olympics kicking off with the opening ceremony. Join the celebration on NBC. And Peacock, Malcolm Butler, a Super bowl hero and of course had one of the great plays in NFL history, if not the greatest play, because it won a Super bowl for the Patriots. He will join us coming up in a moment. We also have Booger McFarlane from the mothership stopping by. And final hour, the Cowboys CD Lamb and Mike Tirico and Chris Collinsworth will join us. They are, of course, calling Super Bowl 60. You can see that on NBC. And Peacock, which is where you can see this program Monday through Friday. Also, the NBC Sports Network poll question for hour two is going to be what? Seaton.
Malcolm Butler
Yeah, we got up there right now.
Dan Patrick
If you're a neutral, who are you rooting for, the Patriots or the Seahawks? That's now up to over 81% for the Seahawks.
Malcolm Butler
Oh, my God.
Dan Patrick
I love it. Marvin had a poll question possibly last week that was really interesting. That works today. But the greatest play with a name in NFL history. Yeah. Malcolm Butler's play doesn't have any kind of nickname.
Malcolm Butler
It doesn't.
Dan Patrick
Yes. Marvin, should we cut the Butler did it. No. That's freaking. It's kind of just like the Malcolm Butler play, right? Yeah. Right.
Booger McFarland
I was asking a question like I was supposed to.
Dan Patrick
Well, I know, I know, but that was a Fritzy one, and I. I got to be fair. If I'm gonna rip Fritzi, I gotta rip you.
Malcolm Butler
Well, Malcolm was in the middle when he picked that up, kind of.
Dan Patrick
You want to just come up with something?
Booger McFarland
I don't know.
Dan Patrick
Malcolm's in the middle. You can't say Malcolm in the middle.
Malcolm Butler
That was an actual show.
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Todd. By the way, we have rhyme time coming up a little bit later on Fritz. He's been working on that. Paulie says in 30 minutes we're doing rhyme time.
Booger McFarland
That's what I'm hearing.
Dan Patrick
Wow. But you're also adding Huey Lewis and the news to this. I suggested maybe it would be fun for those of a certain age that when someone gets it right, I sing, like, a line or two from one of the popular Huey Lewis in The new songs, if we want to have fun with that. Just like a quick. But do you have to. For me? Yes. I think. I feel like I have. Okay. Because Huey is from the Bay Area.
Malcolm Butler
Right.
Dan Patrick
Okay. And they had some big hits, that album, Sports.
Malcolm Butler
And we're a sports show.
Dan Patrick
There's all kinds of connections there. I know big fly fishermen, too. He lives in Montana. Yeah. Paulie, I got a thing from Sports Illustrated just a couple years ago. They used all different people in the media. The greatest play in super bowl history and Malcolm Butler's interception is number one.
Booger McFarland
They don't have a name for it.
Dan Patrick
Others, they do have name for the helmet catch, the Philly Special, and there's a couple more, but those are the ones with names. But James Harrison's interception against Arizona. Oh, man, that was incredible. That might be underrated. It's. It's kind of forgotten. It was at the end of the first half, but in fact, Larry Fitzgerald, didn't he go out of bounds, came back in, and he was trying to, you know, race to get James Harrison. Yes, Mark. The most underrated super bowl play is.
Booger McFarland
The Mike Jones tackle at the end.
Dan Patrick
Of the super bowl against the Titans on Kevin Dyson. What do you mean? I don't know. He wasn't gonna score.
Booger McFarland
Who wasn't going to score? He's right at the end zone.
Malcolm Butler
That stopped at the one yard line.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. It might have been like at the two. They kind of. They made it seem like it was a little. That was at least at the one and a half yard line. Thank you. Yes. Paul. It was 23:16 with six seconds to go. They would have tied it or gone for two.
Malcolm Butler
Dang.
Dan Patrick
You said like I got.
Booger McFarland
He got tackled at the 40.
Dan Patrick
No, no, I'm just saying. All right, that's you. It's the greatest play of Mike Jones career. Clearly it is.
Booger McFarland
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, it is. Who? Yeah. All right, so877.3DP show. We'll try to sneak in a few phone calls here. And are we updating a poll question for hour two? Seton? Yeah, we're going to populate the name. Poll question. Oh, okay. Or I'd like to know, why do you hate the Patriots? Or why would you be rooting against the Patriots? Because it's too early for them to be back. Ah, this. They're supposed to be down right now, and instead they're back in the Super Bowl. It's too fast. Okay. Malcolm Butler joined us. He came by yesterday after the show was over and he, of course, a. I think he Was listed as the fifth defensive back for the Patriots in that super bowl against Seattle. We, of course, know what happened with Marshawn lynch getting down to the one and a half yard line. We thought Marshawn lynch was going to get the ball, and Seattle decided that Russ was going to pass. And there have been varying opinions of, did Seattle and Pete Carroll want to make Russell Wilson the MVP and not more Sean Lynch? And therefore they had Russ throw that ball. Whether you believe it or not. Malcolm Butler, we talked about his presence of mind to be able to read the play, make the interception, and the Patriots ended up winning the game. So I asked Malcolm Butler what's the first thing that Patriot fans say to him?
Malcolm Butler
You're the goat. Thank you, thank you, thank you for that play. You never buy a drink again. But when I go up there, I still use my card.
Dan Patrick
But, yeah, they still make you pay sometimes. Okay. But that impact that it had on people's lives, I'm curious, like, do people get emotional when they come up to thank you for that play?
Malcolm Butler
Most definitely. One day, one guy kissed my hand, and I think the security I had to tell him, like, don't just leave him alone.
Dan Patrick
He could.
Malcolm Butler
It's all good. But, yeah, man, I didn't. Heard some. Some terrific stories. Some heart feeling stories. This guy, dad, he said his dad was having cancer or something like that. And I made the play and he said that's the day his dad recovered from it. And like, things like that. It'd be nice things, bro. So, like, yeah, yeah. Blessed, man. Real blessed.
Dan Patrick
So you're healing people?
Malcolm Butler
Healing myself. If you ain't healed, you can't heal nobody else, I'll tell you that. Yeah.
Dan Patrick
How often do you talk about that? Your family bring up that play?
Malcolm Butler
I think they know me enough to not treat me like a groupie. Yeah, they talk about it. Yeah. I think about it actually at least once a week. I, like, I told everybody else, like, I go take the trash out and I see my Tom Brady truck in the garage. I say it's a trophy, not a truck. But I believe I'd be so thankful, man. Then somebody gonna remind me on social media or I go somewhere where everybody knows me and stuff like that. Like, aren't you Malcolm Bob? Like, yeah, I am.
Dan Patrick
Do you realize I was handing out the super bowl trophy? I was up on the podium.
Malcolm Butler
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
I'm handing the MVP to Tom with the keys to the truck.
Malcolm Butler
Okay.
Dan Patrick
I came this close on live TV in front of 100 million people saying, don't you think Malcolm Butler deserves this. I almost said that. And I thought, it's not my position to say it. I would wait for somebody else to do it, but I couldn't. It's the greatest play in super bowl history. And. And you. You turned a loss into a win, and I just thought, tom's got to give you that truck. So when did he come to the realization that you deserved the truck?
Malcolm Butler
Well, I tell you what. Since I got a little older, he gave me that trophy. He can have that truck.
Dan Patrick
But.
Malcolm Butler
Oh, wait, I forgot what you said.
Dan Patrick
When. When did he give you the truck?
Malcolm Butler
Oh, man, I. I'm not sure. Whenever he said, hey, you can have a truck.
Dan Patrick
Was it after the game?
Malcolm Butler
I guess. I don't know. My mind was everywhere. My mind was everywhere. I beat new people, news reporters chasing me around. Robert Kraft asked me, what was my name. I said, I work for you. I work for you, man.
Dan Patrick
Wait a minute. Hold on, hold on. How did Robert Kraft not know who you were? Were?
Malcolm Butler
I was buried on a depth chart, okay?
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but you're on the roster.
Malcolm Butler
Yeah, but he don't know everybody name, trust me.
Dan Patrick
When did he ask you who you were?
Malcolm Butler
It was. I know. We took a picture in the locker room. I went and did some stuff with Disney and came back, and then I went to a Celtics game with him, and that was my first time ever going upstairs at. At the Patriots play. And, like, I'll sit down, young man. He said, what's your name again?
Dan Patrick
I'm like, yeah.
Malcolm Butler
So, like, that's that.
Dan Patrick
That.
Malcolm Butler
Yeah. Yeah.
Dan Patrick
Wow.
Malcolm Butler
Yeah. Nice guy. Nicest guy ever. I'm telling you, I love my kids. I love Denzel Washington. I love a lot of people, but I tell you what, Barbara Kraft, one of them.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Trust me. Now that he knows your name.
Malcolm Butler
Oh, yeah.
Dan Patrick
Talking to Malcolm Butler, an ambassador for the American Diabetes Association. So for the last 11 years, he's hosted a free football camp over 3,000 kids in his hometown of Vicksburg, Mississippi. Also, big supporter of the United Way of Central Mississippi. What do you tell these kids? What's the one message?
Malcolm Butler
Oh, just do it. Take advantage of. Just do it, man. You can't start the game over. It's not mad. It's not Fortnite. You gotta do it, baby. You gotta do it. And, man, giving back to the community. I've seen guys go to the cfl. They came to my camp, go to the cfl, Rookie of the Year. Some guys made it to the league. Somebody. Some guys got cut. Ben Brown, that played for the Patriots, right? Now Is from Vicksburg, Mississippi, with it with the Patriots.
Dan Patrick
Was he in one of these camps?
Malcolm Butler
I don't know if he came, but I, I, I. It feels like I made an impact on my city, and I think his dad played also. But like a kid, seeing you from the same hometown and see you doing, like, that's pure motivation. I wish I had somebody that went to the NFL and came back to my city and gave back. And like, it's more than just about these people seeing you on tv. They want to see you in real life and touch you and feel you.
Dan Patrick
Just not kiss your hand.
Malcolm Butler
Nah, don't do that now.
Dan Patrick
Come on now. Okay, they come up to the line of scrimmage. Yep. What do you. What goes through your mind right then when you see the formation? Because Marshawn's on the right side of Russ. He goes on the left side of Russ. Yep. Now what are you thinking?
Malcolm Butler
Okay, so at the end of the day, you posed to run the ball, but I play cornerback. I'm not making that tackle. I'm not making that tackle. If you throw a toss, yes, I gotta set the edge, but I'm not making that tackle. And then, like, just knowing football, well, I, I knew a little bit football before I got to the patient, but I learned more like all the routes. You can't do too many routes. And we was playing, man, and the message around the the building was just do your job. So I couldn't do nothing else. Stop no run or nothing. But I said, if this guy run his ball, he's on. But before that, I seen Russ. He just kept. Lord forgiving Russ. I just kept seeing him look that way. He kept looking. And I said, something ain't right.
Dan Patrick
But if it ain't prior to the play, he's looking.
Malcolm Butler
Yeah, he's looking. You know, like what wide receiver, What? Cornerback, Wide receiver. Not gonna check they surroundings. Especially if you're getting that ball. You're gonna look where you're going to see what's going on over there. And that's a little tactic that I learned from high school. And like, it's a nub tight end and the running back in the backfield. I don't have a wide receiver. I look at the running back and he'll be looking this way. I said, yeah, he ain't coming this way. But then I got beat sometimes for being nosy.
Dan Patrick
But then Browner jams the receiver, so he can't pick you 100%. And as soon as you see that, since you guys had already practiced that earlier in the week, you knew exactly where that ball was going or where you needed to go.
Malcolm Butler
Yes, yes, yes. 100. So we go line up. So at practice, the stack was kind of wider, but, like, in the game, it was like they was, like, directly aligned right there with each other. And I get in, I'm like, oh, Lord, I hope we don't have to do the opposite. Like, when he got to. When he pressed, he got the guy in the back, and then I got the guy in the front, but he said, just get him. So when I get up there, I touch him. You can go watch the footage. I touch him on the. On the. On the button. I'm like, hey, who I got? Who I got? So he said, you got the guy in the back. And like I said, if it was.
Dan Patrick
A run, you were in trouble.
Booger McFarland
Yeah, well, we was in trouble.
Dan Patrick
We were in trouble.
Malcolm Butler
Yeah, we was in trouble. Game over.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Malcolm Butler
And, yeah, I just kept seeing him. And then I said, if this guy run any kind of. He do any. Any kind of crossover move, I'm gone. Sorry if I'm wrong, but I was right. I just took a chance. And then, like, me tipping the ball with Curse.
Dan Patrick
Oh, my God.
Malcolm Butler
And then I get out the game, I'm like, it's my fault. And then I get back in the game, I said, I don't know what I can do with this little opportunity, but I'm gonna make the best of it.
Dan Patrick
Did you think that you were going to be out of the game because curse made that play?
Malcolm Butler
Yes. Well, I was out the game.
Dan Patrick
I know, but you weren't going to get back in.
Malcolm Butler
Exactly.
Dan Patrick
Oh, man. Yeah, but curse made a crazy play.
Malcolm Butler
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
You played great defense on that play.
Malcolm Butler
Oh, yeah, I was on him now.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Yeah. That's not your fault.
Malcolm Butler
Yeah, but where did you get to.
Dan Patrick
Kick that ball, man?
Malcolm Butler
Look.
Dan Patrick
Oh, no.
Malcolm Butler
I tell you. I tell you this. After the game, Patrick Chung was coming up to be like, here, here, here. I'm like, man, hold on now. I'm chilling. I don't know what's up. So I gotta go back to Mr. Crow. Few days later, I said, hey, Mr. Crab, you got that ball? He said, it's in the hall of Fame. I think it's safer there.
Dan Patrick
But he didn't say, who are you then?
Malcolm Butler
No, no, no, no.
Dan Patrick
I just want.
Malcolm Butler
He already. We already established that. Yeah.
Dan Patrick
Why do the questions. Why would they still remain about playing one play against the Eagles and then not playing the rest of that game?
Malcolm Butler
I don't know. I just think it was a coach's decision. And I know people ask me that over and over. That's. That's the truth.
Dan Patrick
But. But you have to be able to ask Bill that question at some point. After that, you never did.
Malcolm Butler
Yeah, we had a conversation. Grown man conversation.
Dan Patrick
Okay. Yeah.
Malcolm Butler
Talk to each other, you know, being grown man about it. But I got the Tar Heels number if you wanted to. Actually.
Dan Patrick
You know what? To his credit, he never said why he did it because. And maybe that's a different way of looking at it, but he had something. You guys had something. You had a conversation, and he kept that private. Yes, sir. And they're. It's hard to keep things private. And I. After all these years, no one said anything about, why play you one play and not play you, and your defense gets torched by Nick Foles.
Malcolm Butler
I said the same thing, too. But, you know, coaching decision. But, like, even if I play, like, 10 plays, you need about two or three stops.
Booger McFarland
That's it.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but you only played on the kickoff.
Malcolm Butler
Yeah, Exactly. Grayed out 99%. Pff. Went crazy that week.
Dan Patrick
If you're cool with the situation, then I'm cool with this, man.
Malcolm Butler
I'm good. I ain't saying I'm cool. Well, I had to get over it. Trust me. I had to get over.
Dan Patrick
But how long that took?
Malcolm Butler
Oh, man, it took a. It took a little damage to me. To Tennessee.
Dan Patrick
Oh, when you went to the Tiger? Yeah, yeah.
Malcolm Butler
It took a little damage with me, like, my. Like. Like, I'm a. I'm a good person now. Like. And if you do something wrong to me, like, it's on, but, like, thick skin, just keep moving forward. You can't. You can't dwell on the past. So.
Dan Patrick
Yep. It's great to see you. And congratulations. The play that I think's the greatest one in NFL history. Yeah. So I'm just. Sorry you don't have the football. At least go to the hall of Fame and put your hand on it.
Malcolm Butler
Oh, I've been there. I don't think I. Hey, they probably lock you up. You go up there touching that stuff, man. Yeah, yeah. They charged me for a ticket one time. I had to take my hood off, man. I said, I'm Malcolm. You said, come on in, sweetie.
Dan Patrick
Should have worn your jersey.
Malcolm Butler
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
For real. Thank you for stopping by, man.
Malcolm Butler
Thank you for having me, man.
Dan Patrick
What a likable guy. Malcolm Butler of the Patriots and, of course, an ambassador for the American Diabetes Association. Also, he's hosted a free football camp in his hometown of Vicksburg. Mississippi. There's so much there to unpack. When you think about it, it's one play, but what went into one play? I'm going to take a break and then come back and talk about just the nuance of everything that happened in that moment and in real time. Booger McFarlane will join us on loan from the mothership, but we'll take a break. We're back after this. From San Francisco. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartradio.
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It's called Stugats Co. Live, which is.
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Malcolm Butler
A lot of phone calls.
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Booger McFarland
It's one of my favorites.
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Booger McFarland
Gentlemen. Gentlemen. How we doing? How we doing? How we doing?
Malcolm Butler
Let's go.
Dan Patrick
Thanks for getting up early. Or is this early for you?
Booger McFarland
Well, technically, it's 10:30 on the east coast, so.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, you're right.
Booger McFarland
It's kind of late for me.
Dan Patrick
Are you playing golf out here?
Booger McFarland
Yes.
Dan Patrick
Where are you playing?
Booger McFarland
San Francisco Golf Club. Oh, played there yesterday. Going back hopefully tomorrow. So good week so far.
Dan Patrick
One of my top five golf courses in the world.
Booger McFarland
Give me the other four.
Dan Patrick
I don't know if I have, like, Augusta.
Booger McFarland
That's. That's one.
Dan Patrick
Cyprus.
Booger McFarland
Okay. Hadn't played that one yet.
Dan Patrick
Saint Andrews for the history.
Booger McFarland
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
Pebble Beach. You. You can have a bad round, but not a bad day at Pebble Beach.
Booger McFarland
Pine Valley, I'll give you my top five. So San Francisco is definitely one Riviera Marion I'm partial to. There's a place in. In South Carolina called Long Cove, and then there's a little hidden gem in. In the low country called Secession. Okay, so those are my top five.
Dan Patrick
We had Bo Jackson on yesterday, and I played golf with bo and Jim McMahon, and it's interesting to see football players think they can out muscle the golf ball.
Booger McFarland
Been there.
Dan Patrick
And. And Eddie George. Eddie George. I played with him one time. He couldn't understand how I was out driving him because he said he. George.
Booger McFarland
Right.
Dan Patrick
I said, eddie, there are guys who were 5, 5, 150 pounds who are going to out drive you. And he couldn't understand. And both said, if that ball was moving 95 miles an hour, I'm okay with it. But it just. It's just there. It's just stationary. And he said he hadn't been able to figure out that game yet.
Booger McFarland
You know, it's one of those things. I think all golfers, especially former athletes, get addicted to the game because of that reason, the ball doesn't move. And mentally, you think, I can do whatever I want to this ball. And theoretically you can, but really, you can't.
Dan Patrick
The Malcolm Butler play. Yeah, there's so much nuance to that. And. And just the fact that he's, you know, he's still kind of unpacking things where it's like, you know, I did this, and then we did this, and I see Russ looking, and then Marshawn's on this side. If he runs, we can't stop him. He goes to the other side, and it's the most important play in super bowl history.
Booger McFarland
And I. I listen to you guys talk about all the nuance on that play, but my. The guy that I work with on NFL prime time takes it to another level. He says, think about the macro effect if they hand the ball to Marshawn lynch and he scores. Now we're talking about two in a row for the Seahawks.
Dan Patrick
And Russell hall of Famer.
Booger McFarland
And Russell hall of Famer. Now the questions come in about the Patriots, and when you add up the fact they lost to the Giants. They would have lost this one. Like, if you look at the ramifications of what would have happened had that play changed. Because remember when Marshawn didn't get it and the Patriots won, that team kind of splintered.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Booger McFarland
And you didn't see it anymore. Yeah. So. So that play was significant in, in the micro. But think about the macro effect and the legacies that changed on both sides for both of those teams.
Dan Patrick
Why call that play?
Booger McFarland
You know, sometimes coaches think they're smarter than everyone else. And I don't think the conspiracy theories that we're going to try to make Russ the hero are true. I honestly think that they thought, hey, they're gonna sell out to stop the run. We'll have a one on one opportunity in the stack. It'll be a pick, It'll be an easy touchdown. Yes, Russ gets the credit, but it will be a lot easier to throw the ball in running. It's kind of like, why do teams go shotgun from the one yard line? Because, hey, the numbers say there's less of a chance for a fumble snap in the shotgun.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Booger McFarland
But you're handing the football off five yards from where you want to go when you're only six inches from there. So coaches sometimes outsmart themselves.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, it's. It's one of those. Where you're going, how about a run pass option? That way if you do pass it, it's not going to be in traffic or Russ can run it in. Yeah. I'm still, I'm still amazed at that call. But if I'm trying to be too smart, I don't want to try to be too smart against Bill Belichick.
Booger McFarland
Yeah. And you know what, it's one of those things that everybody at home, we knew what the play should have been.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Booger McFarland
And it wasn't. And it's still the thing. Like it's one of those sports things that we think about. You're like, yeah, that easily should have went the other way. The best team. The best team didn't win the game. It's kind of like when the coach played the Saints and Jeff Saturday talks about this all the time. The best team didn't win the game. The coach were clearly the better team. But because of coaching and Sean Payton, surprise onside kick and Drew Brees playing lights out, the Saints won. Which kinds of kind of brings us to this game. Like, the Seahawks are the overwhelming favorite. I think the Seahawks are the better team. If we go man for man at the 53 man roster, Seattle should Win this game very handily. What does Mike Vrabel do to offset that?
Dan Patrick
Well, he's got to make Darnold uncomfortable. Right. Put him in passing situations.
Booger McFarland
The conventional wisdom says that in order for the Pats to win, the game needs to be played in the high teens, low 20s. If it gets high 20s, 30s. I don't think the Patriots can score that much. Mike Vrabel knows this. So how do you keep the game in reach? Defense has got to play lights out. You got to affect Sam Donald. Sam Donald is one of the greatest reclamation stories that we've seen. I was on the Call of the Game where he says, I'm seeing ghosts. To think about where he is now compared to where he was then. To me, in America, those stories where you fail and then you succeed are kind of what this country is about. And I think that's why everybody's gravitated toward him. And within the great story, you forget he's led the league in turnovers this year.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, he's let it, but, But Drake May has been sacked 15 times in the postseason.
Booger McFarland
Yeah, I mean, Drake May's got two rookies on the offensive line on the left side. Drake May is, is in his second year. Drake May is still growing. I, I, I think Drake May also, when protected, he's pushed the football down the field to guys that I don't know if anybody on in these stands could name. I know, you know, Pop, Douglas K. Booty, you know, Mac Hollins. Like, guys where you're like, okay, does he really have a number one or number two? Stefan Diggs. And so Drake made, I thought, should have won the mvp. No offense to Matthew Stafford. To me, he did more with less. I think that he'll be an MVP in the future, especially when he gets some more weapons. But he's got to play the game of his life for them to win.
Dan Patrick
Why is it people are rooting for Seattle or not rooting for New England? We have a poll question, Seaton. Would you give Booger the results of how people are? It was like 80% of people responded something like that. Currently, 82, 82% are rooting for Seattle.
Booger McFarland
You know, we still associate the Patriots with Tom Brady, Robert Kraft, the dynasty. They've won six Super Bowls. And like it or not, when one team wins a lot, man, it turns. Think about how fast it turned on Kansas City. I mean, it turns because I, for some reason, dynasties are not something that we, I guess we salivate over. It's cool to see them rise to the top, but at some point and let somebody else win at some point. Let's move on. And I think when you look at New England, because of that, because of the spygate, because of deflate Gate, because of all the outcry about Bill Belichick not getting in, because of the outcry about Robert Kraft not getting in the hall of Fame, everything that around this team, you could seriously make an argument. Jerry Jones may call me as soon as I get off this set. The Patriots have been America's team. Like, you can make it. You can make an argument based on. Based on their relevancy over the last 25 years. They've taken over, but they're not national.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, the Cowboys are still national.
Booger McFarland
The Cowboys still have it again. You can make a case the Cowboys still are because of the worldwide fame, because of what Jerry Jones has done. But if you look at the success and what's happened over the last 25 years, man, the Patriots have been the most relevant team in our sport. Kansas City has tried to take it over. They won six Super Bowls.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but relevant doesn't make you popular.
Booger McFarland
No, but relevant makes you either loved or hated. And that's what you just asked me. Why do people want Seattle to win this game? Because people have taken a side that they don't like the Patriots.
Dan Patrick
Why are you yelling at me?
Booger McFarland
Because I'm trying. I'm. I'm trying to convince you and, And. And have this con. Plus, I don't see you but once a year.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Booger McFarland
You know, so I'm kind of excited.
Dan Patrick
And there's a reason for that, because you yell at me all the time.
Booger McFarland
I don't. That's not the case. I don't.
Dan Patrick
Stayed at home and got this.
Booger McFarland
Well, hopefully. Hopefully when you.
Dan Patrick
If.
Booger McFarland
If you get it at home, there's. There's a little bit more that there's a better ending.
Dan Patrick
Booger. Booger McFarlane joining us. He's. You can see him on NFL Primetime right after the super bowl and ESPN and ESPN app. What's a more disgusting nickname? Booger or Mark Schlerith being called Stink?
Booger McFarland
Well, it's got to be stink, because Stink. As soon as you hear stink, your mind goes to a certain place, and it's not a place that you can convince yourself that it's not. When you hear Booger. There are several people that I've met in life that have been called Booger before.
Dan Patrick
Really?
Booger McFarland
Yes, because it's one of those. It's not. It's not typical, but it's not.
Dan Patrick
Did you say it's snot. Typical. Is that what you just said?
Booger McFarland
That's not good, Dan.
Dan Patrick
Are you kidding me?
Booger McFarland
No, dad, that wasn't good.
Dan Patrick
That was unscripted.
Booger McFarland
It was very unscripted. It was closed, but it missed.
Dan Patrick
If Van Pelt said that, you would have been.
Booger McFarland
Well, no, not necessarily. No, no, no. Scotty. I love Scotty. Scotty has a. Scotty's got a real dry sense of humor. That's. That's why I listen. It works perfect at midnight.
Dan Patrick
Okay. Okay. So we've. We've established that Seattle's the better team. Doesn't mean they're going to win.
Booger McFarland
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
If I did you have an MVP vote?
Booger McFarland
No, I did not.
Dan Patrick
Okay. And you would have voted for Greg May. Okay. I agree that Drake May was more valuable to his team, but how do you equate what Stafford did? Okay. He's got great head coach. He has all these weapons.
Booger McFarland
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
But you still got to produce with all of those weapons there, which he did. It's like with Mahomes when he had Hill and he had Kelsey.
Booger McFarland
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
He should be great.
Booger McFarland
Yeah. Here's how I say that. And I try to bring it back to things that people can relate to. If you got two great cooks and they both are world reclaimed, if I give one cook more ingredients and more options, they can make a better meal than the other cook. It's as simple as that. Because you are a product of the environment and the ingredients that you have to work with, the knowledge is great. But to your point, you got to go about it. You got to go out and get it done. And it's really simple, man. Drake May did more with less. He didn't have Puka Naku and Devonte Adams. He doesn't have. Maybe you can argue that Sean McVeigh and people often say is one of the greatest minds. Nothing against Josh McDaniels because he won a sister coach of the year and he should have. Mike Vrabel won coach of the year. But when it comes to the weapons, Pook and the core, Kyron Williams, I mean, just Devonte Adams, the way they run the football, Outstanding. What they had. Like anybody with common sense. Stefan Diggs coming off an ACL pop. Douglas K. Shan Booty, a reclamation project. That's been awesome. Matt Collins, you got a rookie running back. You got two rookies on the left side of the offensive line. Just. It's New England, I think is going to be really good for a long time.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Booger McFarland
They've overachieved this year and I think it's been because of the coaching staff and the quarterback.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. It feels like they're a year ahead of schedule, which is okay.
Booger McFarland
Which if they win this super bowl, imagine what. Imagine the expectations we'll have next year. If somehow Mike Vrabel puts this team in a situation where it's in the fourth quarter and it's a one score game and they have the ball and they win this game. Because I think ultimately that's what it has to be like. If you're Seattle, you want this game 10 to 14 points middle of third quarter. But if you're the Patriots, you just want to be. Can I still see him? You know, it's kind of like get to the back nine. If I get to the back nine, I got two par fives and I'm down two strokes. I'll, I, I'll take my chances. I think if you're Mike variable, that's where you want to get to.
Dan Patrick
Best quarterback you ever sacked.
Booger McFarland
Best quarterback I ever sacked. Troy Eggman.
Dan Patrick
Did you say anything to him?
Booger McFarland
No, because I wanted to get up and dance and celebrate. I wasn't, you know, I wasn't a big trash talker unless you talk to me. But the funniest moment that ever happened on the football field, we're playing the Dallas Cowboys, and it had been built up all week. Larry Allen, future hall of famer. Warren Sapp, future hall of Famer. So they break the huddle, and because of the defensive formation, I was lined up against Larry Allen. I said, hey, man. I told Brooks, I don't care what the flip the call. They didn't come to see me over here. Let's put SAP over there. Put me on the other side because that's what I want. Because when Larry Allen broke the huddle, I miss first play the game. He's got a dip in. All right. He's got like, snuff or whatever tobacco it's running down his lip. I wasn't scared. I didn't want to see that the first place. I just didn't. Just being honest with you.
Dan Patrick
We have meat ready for you.
Booger McFarland
Let's do it. I love it. I. I heard it was steaks.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, we have tomahawk.
Booger McFarland
Good. I'm. I'm pretty sure they're probably not cooked to the right temperature.
Dan Patrick
Wow.
Booger McFarland
And so therefore, I'm just going to tell the chef just to leave mine on a little longer.
Dan Patrick
All right. Do you do that when you go to somebody's house, you tell them how to cook?
Booger McFarland
Yeah, well, I don't tell them how to cook. But usually they ask you what you want.
Dan Patrick
My chef can hear you right now.
Booger McFarland
I know. And so if he can hear me, I'm just telling the chef, just listen. Most chefs get offended when I asked, hey, you know what? I need a little bit more than knocking the horns off and wiping his tail. I need a little bit more. Just a little bit more.
Dan Patrick
He's Booger McFarland. You can see him with Chris Berman. That'll be right after the super bowl on espn. ESPN plus. We'll take a break. If you're watching on Peacock, we'll go out and visit our our meat display there for Booger. Back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. We kind of jumped the gun on Meat Friday, but we wanted to treat Booger McFarland our thanks to Heartland Steak Company providing all of the meals this week. By the way, Super Bowl Sunday. If you can't be here to watch it Live, the TCL ultimate series. These TVs are. They're gorgeous. QM8K, QM9K, and TCL, the official TV partner of the NFL, available at all major retailers. Let me sneak in a phone call. Todd has rhyme time coming up. Buddha in San Francisco joining us. Good morning, Buddha. No, no, buddy. Hold up, Dan, hold up, hold up. Ah, I gotta.
Booger McFarland
I gotta open up my Miller Light.
Dan Patrick
And I just want to say thank you, Dan, for this week.
Booger McFarland
You guys have been awesome and amazing, all the brgs, and all I want.
Dan Patrick
To hear from a coffee cove out here is who's got it better than us? Thank you, Buddha. Buddha goes out to McCovey Cove during baseball season trying to get home run balls. And he's out there on his little raft there. All right, Todd, let's do rhyme time.
Malcolm Butler
Why don't we do it?
Dan Patrick
All right, here we go.
Malcolm Butler
Eminem, movie man in charge. These are all San Francisco related things. Could be coaches, players, landmarks. Eminem, movie man in charge.
Dan Patrick
So eight mile.
Malcolm Butler
And the head coach of the 49ers, Kyle. Eight mile Kyle.
Dan Patrick
No. You don't like them? Okay, okay, let's try this one. Sung Total Eclipse of the Heart. Hard hitter in secondary. Sung Total Eclipse of the Heart. Hard hitter and secondary Something Lot.
Malcolm Butler
We were looking for Bonnie and Ronnie.
Dan Patrick
Oh, Bonnie and Ronnie.
Malcolm Butler
Bonnie Tyler.
Dan Patrick
Bonnie Tyler.
Booger McFarland
She from San Francisco.
Dan Patrick
No, but Ronnie lot played for.
Malcolm Butler
He's not both. It won't be necessarily both related. Like Savannah baseball and cool. Savannah baseball and cool.
Dan Patrick
So banana Montana.
Malcolm Butler
Montana.
Dan Patrick
Are you doing the Huey Lewis songs?
Malcolm Butler
They say the hotter rock and roll is still beaten.
Dan Patrick
Well, I'm just gonna do it like one life.
Malcolm Butler
Okay.
Dan Patrick
Ladder step, scrambling lefty. Ladder step, scrambling lefty. Wrong young. Wrong young. I want a new drug. What?
Malcolm Butler
It won't spill.
Dan Patrick
Wood carving method.
Malcolm Butler
Tight end Wood carving method.
Dan Patrick
Do you believe in love? Draft prediction list.
Malcolm Butler
Quarterback.
Dan Patrick
Draft prediction list, quarterback. What kind of draft? When those things that come out.
Booger McFarland
You feel the power.
Malcolm Butler
Love, you feel the power.
Dan Patrick
Sticky candy. All purpose. Sticky candy all purpose player Taffy. All purpose Niner could throw it to him. He'll run the ball. Taffy, does that rhyme? Taffy and Taffy and the Capri. I think so. If this is it, please let me know.
Booger McFarland
Okay?
Dan Patrick
Overnight star, reason for injuries. Overnight star, reason for injuries. What do you call it? Overnight star. An overnight. And what's over at the practice facility why these night is all getting power station sensation and substation. That's a deep cut. Wow. Santa's disposition cable car. Santa's disposition cable car. Jolly trolley. Jolly trolley. And for that I have to go. I'm doing it all for my baby. Okay. Hoops coach, Comedian Bill Hoops coach has been on the show Comedian Bill Kerber.
Booger McFarland
It's a B square.
Dan Patrick
To be in a rush, best behind the arc. To be in a rush, best behind the arc. Hurry, Curry. Yeah.
Booger McFarland
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
There you go.
Malcolm Butler
I love it when we're cruising together. I'm gonna give you.
Dan Patrick
Is that everything?
Malcolm Butler
Scalp eggs and receiver scalp eggs. Receiver scalp eggs.
Dan Patrick
When you have.
Malcolm Butler
When a person has that in their scalp scalp eggs.
Dan Patrick
Lice rice. Lice rice. There you go. It's disgusting, but that's what it is. And I won't sing a song for that one.
Malcolm Butler
Left his heart in this town the.
Dan Patrick
Giants won this Left his heart in this town the Giants won this.
Booger McFarland
Bennett pennant.
Malcolm Butler
Bennett pennant.
Dan Patrick
There you go. Okay. There you go. Look at you, Mark. And Is that it? I think.
Malcolm Butler
I think we got them all.
Dan Patrick
Look at Ty with the field behind him singing.
Malcolm Butler
This is nice.
Dan Patrick
We're running running short there on. On hits there aren't Hot loving every night. Couple of repeats. It's actually a shocking number of songs, though, that we all knew. Huey Lewis, they had a lot of. They had a lot of songs. Yeah. Super popular. I actually ran into a guy two nights ago, goes fly fishing with Huey Lewis in Montana. Yeah, Paul. It's always weird when a band gets that big and then people turn. That's. That's an example of one, but they had some bangers, man. All right. Coming up, the Cowboys wide receiver C.D. lamb and the guys who are calling Super Bowl 60 for NBC, Mike Tirico and Chris Collinsworth. It's a meet Friday, final hour from San Francisco, the minister of humor, Fritzi Seaton. Mar Paula, Yours truly, the backroom guys and a great audience here in San Francisco. We're back after this.
Malcolm Butler
This is an iHeart podcast.
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Date: February 6, 2026
In this engaging hour of The Dan Patrick Show, host Dan Patrick broadcasts live with an enthusiastic crowd at Oracle Park, San Francisco, blending humor, deep sports insight, and fan interactivity. The episode features two main guests: Malcolm Butler, celebrated for his iconic Super Bowl interception, and ESPN analyst Booger McFarland. Together, they dissect legendary football moments—especially Butler’s Super Bowl play—explore their broader effects, and reflect on the culture and legacy of NFL dynasties, all while bantering in signature Dan Patrick Show fashion.
Reading the Play: Butler breaks down the fateful moment in real time, revealing mental notes and instincts (11:11–13:59):
“If you throw a toss, yes, I gotta set the edge, but I ain’t making that tackle.”
“Russ kept looking that way... I said, something ain’t right.”
“If this guy run any kind of crossover move, I’m gone. Sorry if I’m wrong, but I was right.”
Emotional Rollercoaster: Butler believed he’d be benched after Jermaine Kearse’s crazy catch, only to re-enter game and make history ([14:12]).
What Happened to the Interception Ball:
“Hey Mr. Kraft, you got that ball? He said, it’s in the Hall of Fame. I think it’s safer there.” — Malcolm Butler ([14:41])
Butler on fan adoration:
“You’re the goat. Thank you, thank you, thank you for that play. You never buy a drink again.” — Malcolm Butler ([05:24])
Butler on emotional fan experience:
“One guy kissed my hand... This guy, his dad was having cancer... he said that's the day his dad recovered from it.” — Malcolm Butler ([06:02])
On the mythic status of 'the play':
“I go take the trash out and I see my Tom Brady truck in the garage. I say it's a trophy, not a truck.” — Malcolm Butler ([06:45])
Butler on being a role model:
“Just do it, man. You can't start the game over. It's not Madden. It's not Fortnite. You gotta do it, baby.” — Malcolm Butler ([10:05])
Dan on the magnitude of Butler’s interception:
“It's the greatest play in Super Bowl history. You turned a loss into a win.” — Dan Patrick ([07:29])
Booger on NFL dynasties:
“Relevant doesn’t make you popular. But relevant makes you either loved or hated.” — Booger McFarland ([31:09])
On the Patriots’ legacy:
“The Patriots have been the most relevant team in our sport... but the Cowboys are still national.” — Booger McFarland ([31:06])
Booger on game preparation:
“You are a product of the environment and the ingredients that you have to work with...” ([33:28])
Butler on moving past heartbreak:
“You can't dwell on the past.” — Malcolm Butler ([16:52])
The conversation blends earnest sports analysis with self-effacing humor and warm, personal storytelling, characteristic of Dan Patrick’s style. Both guests are candid and approachable, with Butler unguarded about his journey and McFarland both insightful and lighthearted. The show maintains a balance of respect for the game’s history and joy in its communal, lighter side.
The episode is a celebration of "the moment" in sports—how an unheralded player rising to the occasion can shift the destiny of franchises and fans alike. It explores the fabric of NFL greatness, while providing laughs, real talk about legacies, and a reminder that every Super Bowl contains entire lifetimes packed into a single play.