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Dan and the Danets, Dan Patrick show, friend of the show. Former quarterback Mark Sanchez will join us. Coming up. We'll play in or out. Mike Florio will recap the NFL owners meetings. And I need a recap here because I'm still not quite sure exactly what was passed. I know a few things were tabled. One of the things tabled, the Tush push. And I guess they're going to bring it up for a vote again in May. But the Eagles owner, Jeffrey Lurie had this to say about the play. Health and safety is the most important thing when evaluating any play. We've been very open to whatever data exists on the Tush push, and, you know, there's just been no data that shows that it isn't a very, very safe play. If it weren't, we wouldn't be pushing the Tush push. First of all, it's a precision play. It's very practiced. We think we have an unusual use of personnel because we have a quarterback that can squat over 600 pounds and an offensive line that's filled with all pro players. That combination with incredible detailed coaching with Coach Statland has created a play we can be very successful at. Yes, I mean, that's, that's the right answer. There's no statistic or no health data involved in this. They keep looking for it. There's nothing there. It's just a. It's a play that nobody can stop. And it's not aesthetically pleasing. The NFL hates that. It's just like the extra point. Nobody's going to stop it. Not aesthetically pleasing. Now, let's move it back a little bit. Now I'm interested, but I think Jeffrey Laurie is, you know, fighting for his team and rightfully so. NFL draft will be at B Bar on Holmgren Way, about three blocks from Lambeau. And we'll be there for the draft. Drafts of the draft brought to you by Miller Light. And you can join us first come, first serve, to get in and watch the show Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. Stat of the Day is always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. Good morning those watching on Peacock or those listening on our radio affiliates around the country. He's Mark Sanchez, by the way, in second place in our March Madness Bracket Challenge behind Johnny Bench. He's ahead of Jim Parsons, Joey Votto and Brady Quinn. Mark joins us on the program. Do you know what happened at the NFL owners meetings? That's a very good question. I've heard sound bites from different outlets, but I've also been knee deep in some, in some brand new children here. So I told Fritzi last night I wasn't well, abreast of everything in the NFL these last weeks or so. But listen, you know, they always get together to discuss these kind of rules and what are we going to change? Last year the kickoff. Now the kickoff's changing a little bit more. You know, regardless, it always seems that and I never really had an issue with this as an offensive player, but the hashes are narrower for a reason. You know, you want the offense in the middle of the field. You want high scoring games, you want exciting plays when something becomes a competitive advantage or a detriment to players health where, you know, I still haven't found any data for that either. I haven't done a deep dive on the tush push, but it doesn't seem like players are getting carted off the field on a regular basis because of the play. So I don't know what you do with that. I do know it is nearly impossible and I don't hear many, many people talking about this. It's nearly impossible to officiate. I mean, where's the line of scrimmage? You know, you saw, I think it was Frankie Luvu in the NFC Championship game just doing the old school Troy Palomalu just jump over the line of scrimmage. Like he looked like. Who was the WWF guy? Jimmy Superfly Snuka. Remember that guy jumping off the top rope and he was just like, screw it, they're going to score anyway. I'm going, I'm just going and I'm going to try and time the snap and jump over the pile and see what happens. And at one point basically said like if you do it again, we're automatically giving them six points. So I mean, that right there told me it's going to be an issue at the NFL owners meetings. I don't know what you do about it. So. Okay, but if I put this to a player's vote, not an owner's vote, what do you think the how do you think the players would vote on keeping it or get getting rid of it? I think you got four teams. Like Nick Sirianni said, that was one of my favorite soundbites is we have four teams that should be voting to keep this play in because that got three other coaches jobs. Kellen Moore, Steichen and Rich can or and Jonathan Gannon. So he's like, those guys were all a part of it. Yeah, it got us all first downs and kept that Gannon's defense off the field. It got Kellen more the job and Nola. So I got four votes right there and I don't disagree with them. I think, I think, you know, he's spot on with that one. When you see Cam Ward, do you see enough that separates him from the other quarterbacking candidates? And if so, what is that? I see an X factor. I see that potential and there's always a guy, you know, every couple of years in the draft where you, where you see this extended playmaking ability, you see something that just wows you and it's there. He has it now. It's about, can you manage this thing? Can you, you know, can, can we teach this guy and mold this guy and trust our coaches that we have to get him to go 15 play drives, multiple third down conversions, taking easy checkdowns and then when it's time to go on the phone booth, throw on the Superman cape and come back out and go be Cam Ward and make the crazy falling away, you know, sidearm, whatever into traffic between two defenders, throw on fourth down to win the game. Great, then go ahead and do it. But it can't be every single play. And that's not how the NFL is. You know, guys get away with more and more guys like Jaden Daniels have a little more wiggle room than, you know, maybe certain other players and the game is shifting towards that. You know, I think Mahomes really exploded that and, and expedited that process, I guess and was a catalyst for those kind of off schedule plays. But you also have to remember he got a ton of pub for that. After watching one of the most consistent quarterbacks in Alex Smith go through a west coast system the right way and, and play it by the book, operate the offense, put the ball in play, protect the football, get completion, stack your completions and you know, never go broke taking a profit. However you want to say it, whatever hits the kid's brain to make them operate the right way, if somebody can get them to do that. You got to have a lot of trust in your quarterback coach and your offensive coordinator and somebody who's going to be there forever. He's not going to be able to do this with five different coordinators in five years. Yeah, that that's not, it's got to be a long term plan, hopefully somewhere that has a great veteran for him to watch. But I mean, the kid has some electrifying plays. And you know, those are the kind of players that just, and I've said it on the show before that, God, I wish I could roll out of bed and do something like that, man. And it's not like I was a bad player, I was pretty damn good. But you're just like, dude, I could have never done that. And so it's, you envy guys like that. They're, they're, they're special talent. Tim Hasselbeck, who played the position now NFL analyst for the Mothership, did a player conference adore Sanders and he said he could see Kirk Cousins or Andy Dalton. Is that a compliment to Shador Sanders? I would say it's, it basically goes back to what I was talking about. Who can operate the offense? I mean, those guys have had playoff appearances. Those guys, you know, have, I believe, won their division at least once. You know, it's, it's, it truly is a compliment. I don't think, I don't think it should be viewed another way. It's, those guys can operate an offense, they can get you down the field, they get the ball to the playmakers and they're the ultimate old school, you know, point guard that, that plays defense, distributes the ball, has the high shorts and slaps the floor when he plays defense. You know what I mean? That's, those are those guys and there's, there's nothing wrong with that. That's just a different style. And as long as you're winning game, nobody cares if you operate the offense well, you're scoring your 30 plus points a game. Nobody cares how you do it. It's more fun. Sure, to watch the guy that runs all over the place and it looks more like a Madden football game. That's great. But that's also really hard to continue to play like that. And from an offensive coordinator's perspective, when you get up to the line of scrimmage, they got a pretty good idea of where this ball is going to go. There's nothing more frustrating for an offensive coordinator than getting up to line of scrimmage and going, oh God, I don't know what this guy's going to do with the ball. That's like way too much stress for a coach to go in and out of every game, every drive, like, oh boy, does he understand what we're doing here? Like, that guy's got to know and he's got to know that, you know, So I think those are compliments, and I don't mind that comp. I think. I think House back does a good job breaking stuff down. He's Mark Sanchez, Fox analyst. It's so important, man. Oh, you're bracket. Oh, here we go. Oh, you're bracket, finally. I'm. I'm doing well. I figure you would show me baby pictures of the twins as opposed to your brackets. I got. Listen, Perry, Matfeld. Now, Sanchez, My wife is an absolute superstar of a mom. Twin girls. We got the weights in 7, 2, and 512 for twins. That's pretty big. And we knew she had this kind of potential when we were scouting her in the draft eight years ago, and she has far surpassed her draft round status. Okay. But we knew with the right coaching and the right system that she would develop from a special teams type player making impact plays on special teams to now being a perennial all pro. And this is going to be her first all pro year as a mom. I am thoroughly impressed, and it's been pretty cool, man. I'll send Fritzi some pictures. How about a round of applause for. You're never more proud of your wife than in the moment. Right. Amen to that. I was blown away multiple times. I just wanted to be like, I am so sorry. This is partially my fault. Yes, it is. It takes two to tango. But I am sorry. But you led with your brackets, though, so that's. That's not good. Okay. Your wife, I hope, is not going to be made aware of this, that you led with your brackets, not your business. Oh, no. She's also on a peacock show, by the way, right now. Long Bright river with Amanda Seyfried. Oh, okay. So she's in that show. It's been. It's. It's gotten some pretty decent reviews, and I obviously enjoy it, but I'm biased, so got a little plug in there for. That's good. You did your job. You did your job. And congrats on your bracket. And the twins. Yeah, and the twins. In that order. My son, by the way, who you've met. Yeah, he wanted to name them fish and chips. And so I was like, no, we went with Francesca and Samantha. Okay. Frankie and Sammy. Frank cake and sand burger. So. Okay. And in Spanish. It's really good. Samborghesa is awesome. I love that one. Are they going to be bilingual? I hope so. Their dad is. Yeah, I'm their dad. Oh, you're the dad. My bad. Dang. My bad. Thought of his Liner. Oh, God. Wow. Wow. Where. Where did. Did I say what I was thinking? Fritzi, right to the. Too far. Too far. Too far, far, far. Coach, I apologize. That is, guys. Wow. Now I'm rooting for you in the bracket challenge now. Now I feel bad. Now I got a sympathy good. You should feel bad. Should feel bad. Congrats on the babies, though. Appreciate you, man. And I got some new gear, so. Remember Nick Foles and Pat O'Donnell? Pat ODonnell, the punter? Yeah. With the. I was with him with the bears, and then Foles and I were together with the Eagles. But he gave me. He sent me a bunch of dad season gear, and he's got, like a hat line and clothing line, and so it was pretty cool. She got a lot of baby gifts, which she deserves as the mom going through everything. But I got a couple things. That's nice. I was like, hey, that's kind of cool. Thank you, Mark. We'll talk to you soon, fellas. You'd be good. We'll talk soon. That's Mark Sanchez. He's in second place in our bracket challenge. Yeah, he wanted to talk about his brackets, not his twin babies there. I can't believe I said what I was thinking out loud. I'm better than that, Todd. Yeah, that was rude. We should have dumped that. Yeah, I shouldn't have put that in the notes. I put a little stick in parentheses. I know you're gonna verbalize that. You gotta. You know, sometimes you gotta keep them on their toes, you know? All right, we'll take a break. We'll get phone calls. Coming up, Jerry Jones has something to say about his. His methodology when it comes to signing his players. We'll have that for you coming up. And Christian Laitner says something interesting. It's an interview that we did a couple of years ago, but he talks about the importance of going into the NBA and being surrounded by the right people, because that goes back to Cooper flag. He can be great. The potential for great. But if you go to a system where turnover, losing is. Permeates, the locker room can have. You know, it can be detrimental. So we'll. We'll have that for you coming up as well. Back after this. 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Listen to math and magic stories from the frontiers of Marketing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Coming up, we'll play the popular game in or out. You're either in or you're out. Jerry Jones, brilliant businessman, was talking to the media at the NFL owners meetings, and he was talking about getting the Micah Parsons deal done. I don't view it as urgent at all. And, you know, some say, well, using the basis that the earlier you get something done, the cheaper whether you get something done, a lot of times, the more mistakes you make, and you might want to see a few more cards play. I know I'm kind of being a little defensive here, but the idea that the only success is getting a contract done at an early time is incorrect. And I'd rather pay more and get it right than I had pay less and screw it up. Okay, what's he waiting to see for Micah Parsons? What were you waiting to see with CD Lamp? What were you waiting to see with Dak Prescott? Now I get it with some of the other players, other positions. Maybe you want to see a little bit more. I'm a big proponent of that. I said that about Kyler Murray. I would want to see another season. I never would have extended Zeke Elliott. I never would have given this contract to Dak Prescott. But if Jerry's saying, you know, I've got to wait and see, okay, I would have followed up. What exactly do you have to see from Micah Parsons? Unless it's you want to see more of a leader, more maturity. Is he concerned about Micah Parsons wanting to be Draymond Green with his podcast? Okay, so why did it take so long with Dak Prescott? Why did it take so long with CD Lamb? What were you waiting to see? So I understand his business philosophy, and the Cowboys are foolproof. You're gonna make money. You don't have to win. You're the cowboys. You're worth $10 billion. But when it comes to if I'm a Cowboy fan, you still want your owner to be economically sound like what we're doing and we're ahead of the game. Feels like the Cowboys are behind the game. And with those players, if, if those. If you have your franchise quarterback, pay him. You have your franchise wide receiver, then you pay him. You have your franchise defensive player, the best player on your team, pay him. But if you say you wait, you. You wait a little longer, okay, you could have gotten Micah Parsons probably for 35 million. Now, granted, maybe this doesn't mean anything to Jerry Jones. Now you're going to have to pay probably $42 million. So that's 7 million a year. I know the salary cap's going up, but you're still, you're fighting off the Eagles right now, and the commanders are right on your heels. This is your own division. There's no margin for error here. And that's why I think his philosophy is flawed when it comes to your marquee players. If you're moving on from them, then great. Show me another year and maybe I keep you, maybe I franchise you. But in this situation, I don't know if the media said, what exactly are you waiting to see with Micah Parsons? He will be the highest paid non quarterback in the NFL. Not a question of if, but when. Yeah, Paulie, I kind of like that Jerry Jones does this because he kicks the can down a year. Micah Parsons is going into year five instead of getting contract after year three, it'll be after, you know, year five. And you know, he was second in defensive player of the year two years ago, third the year before. He was 17th last year. His career has cooled a little bit compared to what he was. If you lock in now, if Michael Parsons slides a little bit more, there's no way out for at least three years. Okay, but then don't extend him. Yeah, but if you think he's slipping, then don't make him the highest paid non quarterback in the NFL franchise. Him. Agree, that's it. But Zeke Elliott, you brought him back at that position. Doesn't make any sense. And Dak Prescott is not a marquee quarterback. From the standpoint of, boy, we're glad we have him. Not anymore. But you gave him the biggest contract in NFL history. And it goes back to what Dan Orlopsky said on the show last year. It feels like Jerry loves the attention more than anything else. Winning is second to attention. And. And the more I see this, he loves. If he had the Micah Parsons deal done a while ago, what would people be asking him about the draft I mean, he, he's constantly in the news, his team's constantly in the news. And any morsel of cowboy information, Fox and ESPN are going to lead their shows with it. Just are. And he loves that. But you also want to build a winner. But he's gone 30 years with having, without having a Super bowl team, which seemed unheard of. If I said 30 years ago they won't get to an NFC title game, you'd be like, oh, there's no way that's possible. I mean, the odds were in their favor. And here we are. Couple other items here. Jed York is the Niners owner and he was talking about Brock Purdy's contract. I don't know if he'd like to have some of these comments back. Yeah, I mean, we knew that we had to make sacrifices around the roster to make sure that you can pay quarterback. Right? Like, it's just math. And I've been in situations where you have a great roster and the quarterback isn't set and it's hard to have sustained success. And we want to make sure that Brock is a long term partner. We want to make sure that he's a part of our team for a long time. And it's a decision. I don't know exactly when we made it, but it was somewhere in the middle of the season. Knowing that you can start negotiating at the end of the third year and it's like, all right, like he's our guy. And if he's our guy, you have to know that and make those decisions. And that's where we are right now. Okay. Feels like they had to make decisions now because we have to pay this guy. And that's not fair because you got Brock Purdy basically for free and he helped you build a roster that your coaching staff didn't capitalize on. Also, Brock Purdy helped you make up for the embarrassment of drafting Trey Lance and going up to get Trey Lance. Brock Purdy has been a savior for the 49ers when you think about it. And no, they didn't win a Super bowl and they're not going to win a Super Bowl. But Brock Purdy lived up to his end of the bar, more than lived up to his end of the bargain. And now you got to pay. Now, should he be the highest paid quarterback? No. But if I'm his agent, I go, well, why not? I would hope that you would say, let's get something that makes the most sense for the team and your success, whether he buys into that or not. I don't know. Yes, Eaton, there is, at least from the article I'm looking at now. That's a couple weeks old, to be fair. But they had. At that time, they had 15 players. I know it's gone up since then. They had 15 players who were traded, released, or just left as free agents. And that money totaled up to about $340 million. Now they've since brought in about 10 players. Ellie says at the time of this article, brought in 10 players, and that was worth about $40 million. Wow. Wow. That is a dread. They have something like. In that there's something like $4 million in guaranteed money. That is a drastic difference not only in the monetary value, but I'm going to guess the caliber of player that you're bringing in, too. But also, this is a franchise that brought back Brandon Ayuk and gave him $30 million a year. Trent Williams is a Hall of Famer. He makes a lot of money. Christian McCaffrey may never be the same. He gets a lot of money. They have spent money and they spent money to try to win a Super Bowl. Brock Purdy helped them be able to spend money to try to win a Super Bowl. Yes. If you were to guess right now, do you think Brock Purdy's career from this point on will get better or worse? Worse. Yeah. Got rid of Debo. They're. They. I think they put themselves in salary cap hell with Brandon Auk's contract that they can't trade him. How much longer does Williams play George Kittle? How long does he play McCaffrey? How long does he play? And then you got to go out and find those guys. Well, you have to find those guys. And you also have a quarterback making $55 million a year. And other than, you know, I mean, he's played well, obviously. Yes. But I don't know what that part of the skill set is that it's like, can't lose that. Can't lose that. You know what I mean? That. That Brock Purdy has. If you're talking about Lamar Jackson, you're like, all right, pay that dude. I get it 100%. Look at what he's doing. There's a million other quarterbacks, so maybe not a million, but many other quarterbacks that you're like, obviously, pay him. I don't know what Brock Purdy has. That is that thing that you put your finger on that says, like, we absolutely cannot lose that. Give him his money. And his might be intangibles, because my source, who's a scout, said he can't make those throws to the numbers like that. That's not his strength. And you have to be able to make those throws. Now if you don't have those receivers who can create some separation, that makes it a lot more difficult for Brock Purdy to lead your team. If McCaffrey is not McCaffrey. Okay, now you don't have that safety valve there. Is your defense going to be formidable? But keep this in mind. This coaching staff and your GM went all in on Trey Lance and they survived that. That, that's how you get fired. They survived that because they got Brock Purdy. They fell into Brock Purdy. Brock Purdy saved them. He's going to get paid. He deserves to get paid. But he might be in that Dak Prescott mode of he's a good player. Do I want him as my franchise quarterback? That's where it's open to interpretation. He might be a Kirk Cousins kind of quarterback or Andy Dalton kind of quarterback where you throw for 250 touchdown passes in your career. You make the playoffs a few times, you go to a Super bowl. Although Dalton and you know, Kirk didn't. But maybe that's the kind of quarterback he's going to be. But the other part may be, you know, pretty cool under pressure. The intangibles that come with playing that position. Yeah. Paulie Purdy is an example of the timing of when your contract is up. It really helps you or hurts you. Two years ago when the Niners were fully assembled, Brock Purdy was 12 and 4. 4,200 yards, 31 touchdowns, 11 picks. Great. Fourth in the MVP voting. Last year he was 6 and 9 as a starter. They were injury riddled. 20 touchdowns and 12 picks. Which guy are you getting going forward? You might get sort of a combo platter there. Here's the thing. If Brock Purdy was taken in the first round, we wouldn't have this discussion. He was the last pick of the draft. He was Mr. Irrelevant. You're going to pay him 55 million if he's taken in the first round. If he's taken where Mac Jones was taken. We don't have this discussion. You're just going to accept that Brock Purdy is a good quarterback? Yeah. Paulie, quick question for the room. Answer whichever you want. Who would you give a full boat contract to? You have to pick one or the other for the next five years. Brock Purdy or Trevor Lawrence? Todd. I'm going to take Brock Purdy. Satan Brock Purdy, Marv Brock Purdy, Paul Lawrence. That long pause though. Well, they've already signed up Trevor Lawrence, but if you're saying they were both up right now, I would take Trevor Lawrence, but I. It's not a ringing endorsement, but you have the first pick of the draft and the last pick of the draft. Yeah, it's interesting question. All right, we'll play in or out. Coming up here in a moment. Rich in Athens. Hi, Rich. What's on your mind? Hey, Dan, great to talk with you as always. Sitting here with my puppy dog, Fritz. He watching the DP show earlier, you guys were talking about the best players in each of the four major sports. I think the 0708 season would rival probably most sports years. You've got Kobe, mvp. You've got Peyton, the Super bowl winner and mvp. You got Pujols, mvp. You got Sidney Crosby, mvp. And if you want a bonus, we've got walter Ray Williams Jr III, the best professional bowler with an average of 228.34. Thank you, Rich. That's well done there. A little bonus coverage. Rich sitting by with his puppy Fritzi. Hopefully he's house trained. Mike in Wisconsin joining us on the program. Hi, Mike. Dan on that MVP topic. So the NFL, NHL, NBA, they all have one MVP for the season. I guess I'm curious, I don't know if you or the boys, if you know the history or reasoning behind why the mlb, they have two, they have one AL and one nl. I don't know. But they were separate back then. They're, you know, not interleague play when they first started this. But yeah, I don't know why they decided like the NFL having the NFC, AFC, MVPs, they don't do that. But I don't, I don't know. Maybe, maybe there's an article on that. Yeah. Paulie, according to Baseball Almanac, it goes back to the AL and NL being drastically separate 100 years ago. The business model who ran it, the fact that they didn't play each other, there was no interleague play. It was kind of obvious back then. They said Anthony in la, hi, Anthony. A dp, A blue. Blue for that liner comment. I mean, that's, that's why you guys are the best. You know, that's, that's when you're in the man cave and you got your buddies around here throwing back a couple of studs, you know, that's what you fall into, you know, and you guys are awesome. But I, I was dying, laughing, driving, driving the word. Listen to that. But yeah, as far as, as far as all the, the four major athletes in all the sports. You know, there used to be a cartoon that I used to watch when I was a kid and I think it was called Pro Stars or All Stars. And it had Bo Jackson, Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky, and I don't know if it had a baseball player, but I, if I'm not wrong with my years, maybe like a Ken Griffey or Frank Thomas. I'm not sure if those years match up. Yeah, I'd have to look at that. But Bo wasn't the best player in his sport. Bo is. Bo is. Bo was the best athlete, but he wasn't the best player in his in either sport. I'm still that. It's mind boggling that Jim Harbaugh had more rushing yards than Bo Jackson in the NFL. Damn, I love that. I love that. Let me take a break. We come back, we'll play in or out and we'll hear from Christian Laitner on what it's like to go to a team that maybe doesn't have a good infrastructure and how your success hinges on that when you go to the NBA. Back after this, be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson. I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say and not just about hockey. Believe me, he does Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's gonna be, well, it's going to be quite the ride. We're officially line mates, Nate. We're the energy line. We'll have plenty of folks join us, current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers, and wait to see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex. 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The general public, and maybe the media don't realize how good the professional athletes are and how many beasts there are in the NFL and how many beasts there are in the NBA. If I didn't do as good in the NBA as people thought I could have done or should have done, then you have to chalk it up to being on a great team at Duke in a great system. I'll be the first to tell you that I'm a system player. I need a strong coach. I need a good program, a good system to have my most success. And it only happens in basketball when you're surrounded by other good players. Even LeBron James can't do it by himself. On the Lakers. I've seen Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen not be able to do it, the two of them on the Bulls. So you have to be surrounded by a good team and then don't forget how good and how many beasts there are in the NBA. And yes, it's harder in the NBA. And if I didn't win in the NBA as much as I did in college, and if I didn't have the same numbers, it's because there's more. Charles Oakley and David Robinson and Anthony Mason and all these monsters. And it does make it harder. It's a great point and it's a great reminder. You look at success and you look at failure. And sometimes it can be you're going to a team that has turnover at the coaching position, offensive coordinator, your ownership. So you have a lot of things in play there. And then what kind of teammates, what kind of talent are you walking into? I make the case all the time with Patrick Mahomes he went into the ideal situation. Perfect. They were already a playoff team. You had a Hall of Fame coach, you had a great gm, and it was plug and play after one year. Now, Mahomes took it to another level, into a different stratosphere. But he got the opportunity, as opposed to go back to Troy Aikman with the Cowboys. He won one game his rookie year. They weren't good, but he did have the right coach, and at the time, we thought the right owner and they were able to build. I mean, Jimmy Johnson was a genius, what he could do in the draft trades and then on the field in coaching. But Russell Wilson goes into an ideal situation. They don't even know what they have with him. They had spent money in the free agency. Matt Flynn, they brought him in from Green Bay. And then all of a sudden, Russ is there. I got beast mode. I got some better than average receivers, good offensive line and a great defense and a Hall of Fame coach. It works. Now there are guys who are bigger and better than the system, that they can stand out, they can make a team better. That maybe is not. They're not as good as they appear, but that person makes them better. You know, LeBron did that with the Cavaliers. He dragged them to the NBA Finals. They had had, you know, upheaval with coaching, didn't have a great roster, but LeBron was LeBron. You know, even Michael, when Michael got to the Bulls, they weren't winning. They started to win, but that's only because Michael realized, I can get 35 a night. But what's it mean? The great ones are, you know, measured in championships. And Mike, at one point, was the fifth or sixth highest paid player on the Bulls. That's what happens. Brady understood that without a great roster, it doesn't matter. I mean, you got a Hall of Fame coach, you had a great owner, hall of Fame owner, and then you had an infrastructure that was plug and play, and then you had Tom. You have to have that. But Leitner's right. Leitner wasn't a bust. He just went to a team where he had to do more and he wasn't capable of doing more. All right, Paulie, time to play. The popular game sweeping the nation or at least just this man cave. In or out. Can you recap the rules, Dan? You're either in or you're out. I'm out. Clears that up. Okay, so if you agree with the statement, say I'm in or I'm out in that fashion, I'm gonna throw this in one. Bo Jackson, let's say he could have stayed healthy. I would be more curious to see what he'd done in baseball than in football. I'll go first. I'm in. In. Todd. I'm out. Seaton. I'm out. Marvin. I'm out. I'm out. We saw his greatness as a running back in college. I never saw him play baseball in college and only a little bit in the pros. I can't imagine if he had stayed healthy what he had done as a baseball player full time. Here we go. For this upcoming season, I would take Patrick Mahomes as the quarterback of my team over any other quarterback of the sport. Todd out. Se. Just Patrick Mahomes. Or is it the like coordinator system that comes with him? Just Patrick. I'm out. Marvin, I'm out. I'm out. Wow. The Dodgers will break the record for wins in a regular season. 116. Todd in. Seon out. Marvin in. Out. Steph Curry will never play for another NBA team. Todd in. Seaton in. Marv in. I'm in. In six months, Torpedo bats will be a non factor, non story. Todd in. Seaton out. Marv in. Out. Here are my two favorites. I don't understand how players like Cooper Flagg reclassify and thus skip their final year of high school. I don't know how that happens. How do you just skip your last year of high school? You probably have to take certain courses. Do you start as like a sophomore, junior, extra courses? I. You're asking the wrong guy. It's probably a little earlier than that. Okay. Yeah. I. I had a problem just doing the regular course load, you know, is that eligible to anyone to do like if you're not a Duke recruit? Sure. Oh, I mean, you have kids who are geniuses who go right to college, I guess. What? I mean, civilians. I don't like Cooper cup. I don't. Or Cooper her flag. I don't know his academic. I just don't understand the process. You just take extra class, you get a ged. Yeah. A lot of the kids that my school, my son goes to school with reclass and it's like very much part of the process of if you're an athlete and you plan on playing at a higher level, are you either going to reclass or are you going to do a post grad year? Which is it? Yeah. You do a gap year. That's big in basketball. The final one of in and out. Okay. If I were in the movie Top Gun, like, why one of the fly boys? I would have preferred to Fly with Iceman over Maverick. Okay. Todd, out. You want to be with Tom Cruise, not Val Kilmer. Okay. Paul Seton. Totally in. All right. Right. Marvin in. In. Yeah. Ask Goose. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Too soon. That's the point. Too soon. Wow. You gotta take care of your. He's reckless. And Meg Ryan. Once again, Meg Ryan has come up a couple times. The doors and comp gun. She might be underrated. In or out? Meg Ryan? Underrated. Hotness. Oh, hotness. Hotness. Oh, you see the Presidio? No. Scalding hot. Yeah, Todd. Yeah, she's underrated. Okay. Really cute. Yeah. Because she's cute. Yeah. She's not hot. Yeah, it's more cute than hot, probably. Marvin. Oh, she was great in Top Gun, though. Harry Met Sally. She was awesome. You've got mail. She was good. Oh, yeah, but she was America's sweetheart. What's up, everyone? Julie Swearbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson. We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go. The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb. Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right? Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us. Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe. Listen to EnergyLine with Nate and JSB on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ever wonder what it would be like to be mentored by today's top business leaders? My podcast, this Is Working can help with. Here's some advice from Jamie Dimon, the CEO of JPMorgan Chase, on standing out from the leadership crowd. 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