Hour 2 – QB Yards Are Overrated, Drew Brees

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show
Hour 2 – QB Yards Are Overrated, Drew Brees
Release Date: August 8, 2025

In the second hour of "The Dan Patrick Show," host Dan Patrick engages in a comprehensive discussion about the evolving role of quarterbacks (QBs) in the NFL, particularly focusing on the debate surrounding the importance of passing yards versus other performance metrics. With insights from his co-hosts and special guest Drew Brees, the episode delves into how modern QBs are redefining success on the field and what this means for their legacy and Hall of Fame prospects.

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Poll Results: Least Affordable Pro Bowl Position

The segment begins with a poll question posed to listeners: "Which position can a team least afford to lose a Pro Bowl player?" The options included offensive tackle, defensive end, cornerback, and wide receiver. The results were overwhelmingly in favor of the offensive tackle position, garnering 74% of the votes.

Dan Patrick ([03:15]):
"Yeah, that's a big loss. Big loss for the Chargers. Rashawn Slater is one of the best left tackles in football..."

Discussion Highlights:

• Impact of Losing an Offensive Tackle: The loss of a key offensive tackle like Rashawn Slater can have a domino effect on the entire offensive line, affecting both pass protection and run-blocking schemes.
• Team Performance Dependency: Teams heavily reliant on their offensive line for running the ball and protecting the QB may find themselves vulnerable without a top-tier tackle.

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QB Yardage Debate: Are Yards Overrated?

The conversation transitions to the central theme of the episode: the significance of passing yards for quarterbacks.

Dan Patrick ([04:45]):
"I think yards are overrated. Sometimes you'll go, hey, that guy threw for 5,000 yards... But he's got a Super Bowl to show for it."

Key Points:

• Quality Over Quantity: Patrick argues that accumulating high passing yards doesn't necessarily equate to a quarterback's effectiveness or leadership, emphasizing that winning games and championships are more tangible indicators of success.
• Longevity and Legacy: Comparing veterans like Drew Brees and Tom Brady, who have amassed significant yardage but are also celebrated for their Super Bowl victories, versus younger QBs who may not yet have such accolades.

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Rushing Yards and Their Impact on QB Evaluation

The discussion shifts to the increasing emphasis on QBs' ability to run and accumulate rushing yards.

Dan Patrick ([07:18]):
"Jalen Hurts is not a guy who's going to put up big yards. And I think because of that, we look at him and maybe he's just a great football player...he just knows how to play the position."

Insights:

• Dual-Threat QBs: Players like Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson, and Josh Allen are praised for their mobility and ability to add points through rushing, challenging traditional metrics that prioritize passing statistics.
• Hall of Fame Considerations: The panel discusses how these dual-threat abilities might influence QBs' chances of entering the Hall of Fame, pondering whether rushing stats will become a significant factor in their legacy.

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Hall of Fame Prospects for Modern QBs

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing the Hall of Fame potential of current QBs based on their unique skill sets.

Dan Patrick ([11:00]):
"He just knows how to play the position. But as far as the numbers that go along with being a great quarterback, he doesn't measure up to them...but he does know how to win."

Notable Comparisons:

• Russell Wilson: Considered for his early career success and playoff performances, but questions arise about his overall yardage and consistency.
• Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen: Speculated to accumulate unprecedented rushing yards for QBs, potentially changing the criteria for Hall of Fame induction.
• Troy Aikman Comparison: Devin (co-host) suggests that without continued success, some QBs might resemble Aikman, who, despite a solid career, might not be considered among the greatest without additional accolades.

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Evaluating Quarterbacks Beyond Traditional Statistics

The hosts delve into alternative methods for assessing QB performance, moving beyond standard metrics like passing yards and touchdowns.

Dan Patrick ([13:39]):
"There's so much more to add. ... what type of decision maker they are because if they are making more good decisions, then good results will follow."

Discussion Points:

• Decision-Making Efficiency: Emphasis on a QB's ability to make smart decisions, avoid sacks, and minimize turnovers as critical components of their effectiveness.
• Game Management: Evaluating how QBs manage the game, including their ability to keep drives alive, control the clock, and lead comebacks.

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Future of QB Assessment Metrics

Looking ahead, the panel discusses how the evaluation of quarterbacks might evolve to incorporate a broader range of performance indicators.

Dan Patrick ([40:54]):
"I think when you really start to break it down, that's what you're looking for."

Key Considerations:

• Comprehensive Metrics: Integration of advanced statistics that account for a QB's overall contribution to winning, including leadership, clutch performance, and adaptability.
• Holistic Evaluation: Moving towards a more nuanced understanding of a QB's role, recognizing that raw numbers don't capture the entirety of their impact on the game.

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Guest Insights: Drew Brees on Broadcasting and Legacy

In an interlude, Drew Brees shares his experiences transitioning from a celebrated NFL career to broadcasting, highlighting the differences in evaluating performance on and off the field.

Drew Brees ([27:12]):
"I have an insight to the game that is pretty unique, given my playing experience...I just feel like there's so much more to add."

Highlights:

• Broadcasting Perspective: Brees discusses how his playing background influences his approach to analyzing and commenting on the game.
• Legacy Beyond Statistics: Emphasizes that a player's legacy is also shaped by their leadership, work ethic, and contributions to their team and community.

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Conclusion: Redefining QB Excellence

The episode wraps up with a consensus that success for quarterbacks should be measured by their ability to lead their teams to victories, make intelligent decisions, and adapt to the evolving nature of the game. The hosts agree that while traditional statistics like passing yards remain significant, they are no longer the sole indicators of a QB's prowess or potential Hall of Fame candidacy.

Dan Patrick ([43:00]):
"I would much rather throw it to the guys."

Final Thoughts:

• Adaptive Roles: QBs are now expected to be versatile, contributing both in the passing game and on the ground.
• Holistic Evaluation: The NFL and its analysts may need to adopt more comprehensive evaluation frameworks to accurately assess and compare quarterbacks across different eras and playing styles.

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This episode of "The Dan Patrick Show" offers a nuanced exploration of quarterback performance metrics, challenging listeners to reconsider traditional views on what makes a successful and legendary QB in today's NFL landscape.

Transcript

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[Manny]

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[Manny]

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[Noah]

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[Devin]

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[Manny]

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[Noah]

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[Noah]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio, hour two on this meet Friday. Dan and the Danettes, Dan Patrick show. Our starting lineup, Fritzi Seaton, Marv Polyers. Truly and of course, the back room guys. Stat of the day, brought to you as always by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. Have another poll question. More phone calls coming up. Drew Brees will stop by in about 20 minutes from now. 877-3-DP show operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. Let's clean up our mess from hour one with the poll question. Seaton. And then we'll dive into preseason. Last night and this weekend. Yeah, we got up there right now. Which position can a team least afford to lose a Pro bowl player? Offensive tackle, defensive end, cornerback, or wide receiver. Those are your four options right now. 74% of that vote going to offensive tackle. Yeah, that's a big loss. Big loss for the Chargers. Rashawn Slater is one of the, he's, he's on the short list of best left tackles in football. And your, your whole offense is predicated on having that left tackle being able to run the football. And now Joe Ald has to go from right tackle to left tackle, and then you're gonna have to have somebody replace him at right tackle. And then it's a domino effect there. But this is a really big loss. And he just signed that contract extension. And Justin Herbert coming off his best qbr, if you buy into that, and they were able to run the football. He didn't have a lot of yards there. I think yards are overrated. Sometimes you'll go, hey, that guy threw for 5,000 yards. I mean, James Winston, I think once through for 5,000 yards. Was that the 30 for 30 year, 30 touchdown passes, 30 interceptions. I mean, a lot of guy, Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Matthew Stafford, they got a lot of yards. Now Drew Brees has a lot of yards as well. And. But he's got a Super bowl to show for it. You know, Tom Brady played such a long time, same with Drew Brees, that they were going to accumulate 60, 70,000 yards. And Jalen Hurts is not a guy who's going to put up big yards. And I think because of that, we look at him and, and maybe he's just a great football player. Maybe he's a good quarterback and a great football player. And that mate, you know, might sound strange to you. I think he just knows how to play the position. But as far as the numbers that go along with being a great quarterback, you know, he doesn't measure up to them. And maybe that's where he is. Not in the top five with people, maybe in some people's, you know, rankings, since everybody's got a ranking, he's not in the top 10. But he does know how to win. Imagine if he would win another Super Bowl. Not out of the realm of possibilities and being the mvp. Now, you've been to three Super Bowls, you won two and you're a two time mvp. Well, now you're a Hall of Famer, right? If Russell Wilson gets the second hall of Famer, it feels like, like there's certain players. Is Lamar Jackson a Hall of Famer already? And I would say yes. Is Josh Allen a Hall of Famer already? I would say probably yes. Now, there was a caller who called in yesterday, I believe yesterday or the day before, and he said, what if we looked at careers in reverse order? So we looked at Russell Wilson and we said, man, he's kind of struggled a little bit. But then you get to the beginning of his career, which if we flipped, it would be at the end of his career, and you go, man, he had a great career. You know, Matthew Stafford, if you flip it and you, you have him winning a Super bowl and then he goes to the Lions and doesn't do anything, is he a Hall of Famer? And the answer would be probably not. Because we'd look at it and it wouldn't be recency bias. We would say, well, he didn't do anything after he won a Super Bowl. Aaron Rodgers, it's been 14 years since he won a Super Bowl. Russell Wilson had success early and it feels like when you kind of limp towards the finish line, you know, John Elway was a Hall of Famer, but those last two Super Bowls that he won, all of a sudden John moved up the list of greatest quarterbacks of all time. But if we flip careers and say, what? What did you do early and what did you do later in your career? You know, we might be looking at some careers differently.

[Paulie]

Yeah, Paulie, Russell Wilson had eight playoff wins in his 20s. He's had one in his 30s. So at age 30, let's say he got hurt or whatever would have happened to him. He probably would have cruised to the hall of Fame. If he somehow stopped playing at 30 due to injury.

[Noah]

And we were looking at rushing touchdowns, we're looking at rushing yards for quarterbacks. And I'll go back to what Steve Young has said numerous times on the show. Hall of Famer said, the yards are out there, go get them. He said, that's today's quarterback. They're giving you yards. Go get them. Be smart when you get them. But they're there. They have design plays. You know, Josh Allen is getting those yards, Lamar Jackson getting those yards. That's, that's what today's quarterback has to do. Jalen Hurts getting yards out there. And now all of a sudden you're going to look at yardage totals for quarterbacks and you're going to say somebody's going to rush for 9,000 yards like Lamar Jackson's at 6,200 yards right now. Not out of the realm of possibilities that he adds another 3,000 yards to his rushing career. He's 28 years of age. Two time MVP can end up with 9,000 rushing yards, maybe 10,000 rushing yards. Josh Allen. Then you start to look at touchdowns. Does Cam Newton have the most rushing touchdowns?

[Paulie]

Polly, for a quarterback, all time. Cam Newton, 75. But Josh Allen is just behind him at 65.

[Noah]

Oh, cruise past. Yeah, yeah.

[Paulie]

The one yard goal line touchdown is becoming the norm.

[Noah]

How many touchdowns does Jalen Hurts have?

[Paulie]

He already has 55. I think he's 26 years old, 27 years old.

[Noah]

Did you see when they ran the push, tush tush push. Tanner McKee, now he's a big guy and he doesn't squat, you know, £600 like jalen hurts. When he tried to run that tush push, it looked different. That's why, you know, they'll be successful with the quarterback sneak if they take that out. Jalen Hurts will still make it successful because there's no quarterback in the NFL who can leg press 600 pounds. Just being able to generate that power, you're not going to stop him. But you know, we've seen this with Josh Allen. He's too tall. We saw that in the postseason where you stop him. And Jaylen Herz, you're not going to stop that. You can take that play out. You're not going to stop him.

[Devin]

Yes, Marvin, this might be an unfair comparison, but do you think Jaylen Herz might have the same career as a Troy Amman where he's never regarded as the best quarterback in the game, but he just collected rings on a really, really, really good team where people don't even. People never even considered Troy Aikman not a Hall of Famer.

[Noah]

Troy was a really good passer, but that offense was so balanced that he didn't need. They never asked him to. I don't know. Did he ever throw for 30 touchdowns? I don't know if. I don't think he did. Yeah. Paulie.

[Paulie]

Troy Aikman Never threw for 25 touchdowns in the season he averaged in his. His peak years. 23, 15, 13, 16. Low interceptions. They ran the ball.

[Noah]

How would we view. Let's say Jaylen Herz did this for the Cowboys. How would we view Jaylen Herz? Would Jaylen Herz be the best quarterback in football? Now, once again, I'm looking at the media coverage and how they would change maybe their opinion. Because we look at the Eagles and you start talking about Saquon Barkley, the offensive line, the defensive line got great receivers. And Jalen hurts. You don't lead with Jalen hurts, but he's done everything that we should be leading with that. Saquon Barclay had one of the great seasons in running back history to do what he did and then cap it off and win the Super Bowl. And that overshadowed Jalen hurts. Yeah. More maybe if he had a season.

[Devin]

Like Patrick Mahomes with the 50 touchdowns, if he had a really big season.

[Noah]

With gaudy numbers, I don't think he's ever gonna have that.

[Devin]

Oh, I know, I know. But as far as him being a Cowboy and if he was doing this for the Cowboys, to me it might be relatively the same, but more media.

[Noah]

Coverage, I don't know. I think they would. I think the media would look at him differently if he did this for the Cowboys and he's winning championships. I mean, oh, my goodness. It's just with Philadelphia, it just feels like we go all. And look, I say this, it's the best run organization. Them and the Chiefs, they've. They've draft. Well, they resigned players, free agency. They built both lines. Offense, defensive line, everything. Yeah, Seaton, I think this is kind of Jalen hurts story. I mean, it's no. What's happening at the Eagles and the way he's covered there is no different than what happened at Alabama. He couldn't even prove he was the best quarterback at Alabama, and now he can't prove that he's a good quarterback at the Eagles. I think it's something that people just have planted in their head that now that's just sort of who he is. He's not really the guy, but. But he kind of is. I don't know. Is he? Yes, he's great. No, I don't know. He's it's the team. Is it him? Well, sometimes when you look at, oh, he's a second round draft pick or Lamar Jackson at the end of the first round that all these teams passed on these guys and then it's hard to christen them, you know, better than Joe Burrow or Josh Allen, who drafted higher, but he's had far more success. Yeah, Paulie, like you said, we judge.

[Paulie]

Quarterbacks on yardages and touchdowns to interceptions, but there's not a stat least amount of mistakes. It seems like Jalen hurts, always makes the right decision, does not take unnecessary hits, but runs when he needs to. Last year, 15 starts, 18 touchdowns. That's not special. But only five picks. Coaches will love that. Five picks in an entire NFL season is gorgeous. He runs the ball efficiently.

[Noah]

But didn't Justin Herbert have 23 touchdowns and three interceptions his best year quarterback rating? Yeah. Let me get a couple of phone calls in here. Jay in the Bay I. Jay ADP so my buddy Travis grew up in San Diego and went to school at Arizona. And so his three favorite sports teams are the Chargers and the Padres and Arizona men's basketball. I was wondering between you and the Danettes and potentially a poll question, which one of those teams would be the most frustrating team to be a fan of and most importantly, suck it, Travis, is it? Okay, so Padres, Chargers and Arizona basketball. Arizona is usually, you know, one of one of the top four seeds. We've had that where they're number one seed. Like Padres are always. They're, they're, they're, they become more interesting, but they're not the favorites. Arizona has been on the short list of favorites to win a national championship. Chargers, they're frustrating for me because I, I would always, I think I fell in love with the uniforms. I do. It's, it's when you fall in love with a beautiful girl and you don't notice the other flaws. Now she, maybe she. Well, we don't need to get into details there, but she's beautiful and then she's got a weird, you know, laugh or something and like the Chargers are that beautiful girl. It's just. I sound like Colin Cowherd coming up with an analogy.

[Paulie]

Compare this.

[Noah]

There you go. Colin, that's for you. Shout out.

[Paulie]

Yes, Paulie, it seems like this is obvious, but the past 30ish years for the Chargers, tons of talent. There's regular talent on that roster. They never feel like a bad team. I'll bet they've had like four losing seasons in the past 30. You know, you get Tomlinson, you get Breeze. At the same time you get Rivers, and you can go on and on. Now you have Herbert. You've always had high end talent at the skill positions. You just can't close.

[Noah]

Yeah. Would you say that it's in that order? It was Arizona basketball, the Chargers, and then the Padres. Chargers have been to a Super Bowl. Arizona's won a national title. Pile up piles. I'm thinking, Miles Simon, that's the last.

[Devin]

Time we won an actual title.

[Noah]

Yeah, I know. And then the Padres have been to, what, a couple of World Series. Yes. Todd, how many bracket sheets. I know. I'm one that's had that happen over the years have been destroyed because you bought into Arizona. You thought they were going to the Final Four Elite Eight, and then they didn't even get to the sweet. It happens. Yes. Constantly crossing off Arizona in the middle of. They will not do that to me ever again. If they win, great. I'll celebrate you. And if the Padres win or Chargers win, I'll celebrate you. But I haven't bought into the Padres. I like what they did. They're all in to try to win. I love that. Love a good rivalry or try to stand up to the Dodgers. I love it. But the other teams, I've done that. I've gone down that road. I've held hands, and then all of a sudden, they break my heart. They just want to be friends. Yeah. Friend zone. I had a crushing friend zone one growing up. I was absolutely in love. Freshman. Freshman year in college. And I never would have dated me. I'm gonna say that. And all of a sudden, this cheerleader had an interest in me, and I'm like, all right, maybe she sees the jumper because there's nothing else to see. And.

[Devin]

Must be the silky smooth jumper.

[Noah]

Yeah. Hey, let's go out on a date. What do you want to do? Can I just watch you shoot? Hey. Actually, it's. Hey, what are you doing tonight? You want to come watch me shoot? Yeah. Yes, Todd. So what happened? You asked her out and she said, oh, you're telling the story. That's what I was doing. I was.

[Devin]

I didn't realize.

[Noah]

I thought you were just kind of waxing poetic about the whole background of it. It still hurts. Damn it. I'm sure it does. Yeah. Real to you? Yeah, it is real to me. And then I realized that she. She wanted to just be friends. That was it. And she goes, I think you're getting the wrong impression. I go, what? That you're really, really in love with me? She goes. I just, I, you know, I find you funny and I go, funny how? I'm a clown. Yeah. I thought she was laughing at me. Yeah, that one was tough. And then she, she ended up dating my teammate. No need to mention any names. She's more into assisting than scoring. More of a rebound gal. Yeah, she wasn't into scoring. I like guys banging in the paint. Easy. What is his family? Family feud here. Double entendre. I like. Does anybody have a single entendre? It's always a double entendre. I don't know. Let that marinate a little bit. Thank you, Todd. All right, Todd, you're welcome. Drew Brees set to join us. Let's take a break here. Okay, so all take a break. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paul, single entendre is in the dictionary. A phrase that is a single often body meeting.

[Noah]

Okay, so body.

[Paulie]

Double entendre. A phrase has two meetings, one of them innocent, one of them body.

[Noah]

Body.

[Paulie]

Back to you.

[Noah]

Okay, that's the entendre you want. Let's take a break here. Okay. Back after this Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9:00am Eastern, 6:00am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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[Manny]

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[Noah]

More Phone calls coming up. 8773 DP show. Seton, what's the poll question for the second hour of this program? Well, yeah, right now, hour one is just. It's pretty dominated by the offensive tackle. Okay. Which I. I get. Okay, we have one here from Todd, which I don't know if you're ready for. We might want to save that. Okay, we'll save it to after Drew Brees. Yeah, Yeah, I think so. Todd has a not safe for work limerick as well. I don't know. I'm gonna have to wait and digest that one. That seems reasonable. Thank you, Todd. It is a Friday. You get a little Friday. Fritzy. I just want to make sure we're not getting too squirrely there. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Got standard. I'm a journalist.

[Devin]

You are a journalist. Anyone that suggests otherwise.

[Noah]

Today, I'm a journalist. Yes. Marvin. Yeah.

[Devin]

You're the Don D of journalists.

[Noah]

I'm an alligator. Sorry. He's Drew Brees, future hall of famer, Super Bowl MVP winner. And joining us on behalf of Jimmy Johns and Drew Brees, number nine. Oh, look at all the posters back there. They're all pictures of you.

[Devin]

Well, since, since you, since I'm not behind you, you know, amongst some of the, the all time broadcasting greats, I see Bob Costas, I see Al Michaels, you know, I figured I had to kind of create my own setup back here.

[Noah]

Let's go back to your broadcasting career. Looking back on it. No, but I'm. I know you want to do this and you're a competitor and you want to be great. What, what is it that maybe you missed understanding or doing the first go round of your broadcasting career?

[Devin]

Well, here's where I kind of chuckled, Ben, because I get the perception, I get the feeling that the perception is that somehow I failed at being a broadcaster. I got two opportunities to broadcast NFL games and they were like eight weeks apart. I did one game in New Orleans for Thanksgiving and I did one playoff game otherwise. I broadcasted Notre Dame football. But really, when I took that job with NBC, the idea was to work with some of the best people in the business. The Mike Tirico, Tony Dungy, Rob Hyland, like Fred Guidelli, all the guys that are legendary guys in that organization. And man, I'm so thankful that I had that opportunity. But at the same time, what, what I really did for the most part was sit behind a desk and do Sunday Night Football. The Sunday Night Football, Football night in America. And then, you know, a bunch of stuff in stadium at the desk, and then the super bowl broadcast, but again at the desk. So at the end of the day, like, I I chuckle because even as I look at the landscape right now, man, I have so much respect for a lot of guys in the booth right now, but I'd step in the booth right now and be a top three guy, like without question. And then you give me a few years and I could be the best. So look, I love the game. I love talking about the game. I, I feel like I have an insight to the game that is pretty unique, you know, given my playing experience. I see the game a totally different way, I process it a different way. And so even as I watch games now and I just kind of listen to, you know, the commentary and this and that and what I'm seeing, I just feel like there's so much more to add. And so look, at the end of day, I'm going to wait for the right opportunity and, you know, hopefully it comes along and if it doesn't, that's okay too because I'm coaching ball and I'M involved in the game in so many other ways, but I do feel like I have a ton of value to add in the booth. And so I'm. I'm appreciative of Netflix giving me the opportunity to broadcast on Christmas Day. And I'm not sure exactly which game that's going to be. There's two on the slate, but that'll be a lot of fun.

[Noah]

Yeah, but it'd be like asking you to start a game maybe in the preseason and start a game, you know, late in a season and say you weren't consistent. It's. You need. You need repetition in this. You got to be there week in and week out.

[Devin]

Yeah, absolutely. You know, and so that. It's. It's. I think the unfortunate part about just that year was that the thing I wanted to do most was broadcast NFL games. The thing I had the opportunity to do the least was broadcast NFL games. Now I had a chance to do everything right. I was in studio. I was at the stadium, did the super bowl pregame. I broadcast a little college. I broadcasted a little NFL. So I got exposure to everything, and, man, I retained it all, like, every bit of coaching from all those guys. I'm very appreciative of that. But, you know, when. When I. When I departed, I departed because I wanted to. I wanted to spend more time with my kids on the weekends, coaching ball. And unfortunately, that was. The schedule didn't work out, having to fly to Connecticut, you know, every. Every week, and also doing the Notre Dame games. So it was my decision to step away from NBC. It was not theirs. They wanted me back. And again, I felt like I. I had a great relationship with him during that time. Unfortunately, I think it got reported a little bit differently, and now somehow that's become the narrative. It could not be further from the truth. You can go talk to Pete Bavacqua, who is the head of NBC Sports. You can go talk to Sam Flood. You can go talk to any of those guys. Mike Tirico, Rob Hyland. Man, I had a great relationship with those guys, and they wanted me back. Unfortunately, the schedule just didn't work, given the fact that I wasn't really able to do what I wanted to do, which is broadcast NFL games.

[Noah]

Is there a statue of you in New Orleans?

[Devin]

No, there's not.

[Noah]

Would you like to have a statue of you in New Orleans?

[Devin]

I don't need a statue. You know what? There's a statue of Steve Gleason, and that's. That's one of my favorites.

[Noah]

Well, I, I, and I'm being serious. I know you're being modest here, but when you think about an athlete and what he meant to a city, I don't know if there's another athlete who meant more to a city than you did or do to New Orleans.

[Devin]

Look, I think all of us, if you go back to, you know, that time, 2006, Sean Payton comes in there as the head coach. I mean, literally, his first free agent signing was Scott Fujita, right, who was a mainstay on our defense, who was one of my good, good friends, like, and then just all the, the little pieces that came together in 06, 07, 08, which culminated to our Super bowl victory in 09, and then really just an incredible run throughout our 15 years there, there were so many people that were part of that. So it's not. I mean, even as you would sit here and say, hey, maybe Sean Payton and I get a lot of the credit, at the end of the day, I think we, we just take pride in the fact that we had a chance to be a part of something really, really special, really unique, probably unprecedented from the perspective of what happened to this city where the team was as far as just the organization and just the, the perception that people had of, of the Saints. And then all of a sudden, being able to come together and create what was, you know, one of the, one of the greatest runs, I think, in certainly NFL history, professional sports history. And I think the reputation now of what a team means to a city and really the standard of what a team can mean to a city. I feel like the New Orleans Saints represent that as well as anyone.

[Noah]

And I would have the statue of you to be the actual size to scale, I would have it being six feet. So people can say, wow, he did it at that height. I'm his height, or I'm taller than him. I don't want it to be seven feet tall. I want it to be six feet. Maybe you think you're six one, but maybe it's six feet. Can you be too short to play quarterback in the NFL? No.

[Devin]

But here's the thing. If you go back to that, you need the perspective of having the lineman in front, you know, so it's like, it's like one of those, it's like one of those statues where you got like, you know, it's like the cavalry, you know, and you got the big horses in front, you know, like, that's what you need for the perspective.

[Noah]

So you're going to be hidden behind your offense.

[Devin]

You need like the 6 foot 6 light in front of you. I can't see through these guys. No, I. Look, I don't think you can be too short. Look, there's that, there's that prototype size that maybe we all have in our mind for each position. In fact, I'm sure there's a lot of scouts that made a great living, you know, through the years with just having that, that mold or that model for each position. I know that Sean Payton had a little bit of that because he got it from Parcells. Like, I would, I would. I was in these discussions all the time as to what certain positions were supposed to look like. Apparently the only one that would, that could have quite a bit of variation was the running back position. He's like, they parcels. You say they all, they come in all shapes and sizes. They just need to have a big lower half, right. Otherwise they're, they're, they're going to constantly be in the shop, so to speak. They're going to be injured. So, I mean, like the. Darren sprols is right, 5 foot 7, you know, 180 pounds. But, but was one of the most dynamic players in the history in the NFL. I think from a quarterback perspective. Keep in mind too, not only was I short, but I came in the league behind a guy named Doug Fluty, who in my opinion is one of the greatest quarterbacks in all of professional football and obviously played every, every level of it from the USFL to the CFL to the NFL. But he was doing things that were ahead of his time and I don't think he gets the appreciation for it. He was Patrick Mahomes before Patrick Mahomes. Everything you see Mahomes do, I saw Flutie do every day in practice, from the no look, throws to the back shoulder, throws to just like manipulating defenders with his eyes, buying time. Like he just had such an incredible feel for the game. And a lot of the things he did, he did out of survival. Right. Like you think about it, I think some of the greatest innovations in history is because, hey, there was a problem that needed to be solved or you had a limitation that you had to overcome in some way with some other sort of talent. And so like truly, he did things out of survival, like he would have been able to play the position if he wasn't able to do these things. But I had a front row seat to this for, for four years with the San Diego Chargers and some as his backup, and then in other cases, he is my backup. But nonetheless, he was an incredible mentor for me. And I learned so much from him. And so therefore, I would say he played the game at five, nine and a half or whatever Doug was. I don't think that's. I don't think that's a limitation.

[Noah]

We're talking to Drew Brees, the future hall of Famer, super bowl mvp. What are you doing with Jimmy John's?

[Devin]

So, well, first off, so I've been a fan of Jimmy John since 1997, my freshman year at Purdue University. I showed up to Wiley hall my freshman year. And you're staying up late studying, right, Dan? And three o' clock in the morning, you're starving and the only place open is Jimmy John's. So you dial up Jimmy John's and literally 15 minutes later you got some dude rolling up on a bike to hand you a Jimmy John's sandwich. It's like the greatest bite of fruit in the world. So literally that was like what I lived on three days a week in college. So I've had a relationship with Jimmy John's for a long time. I've been a Jimmy John's franchisee here in New Orleans. We built out this market about 15 years ago. So I've always loved the brand and it's been a great partnership, but they're supporting our foundation. So actually, for the entire month of August, all the way to August 31st, you can walk into a Jimmy John's and just order my favorite sandwich and they named it after me this month. So you just say, I want the breeze number nine. And basically that's going to be ham, capicola, salami. It's the Italian nightclub. All those lettuce, tomato, onions. You get the oil and vinegar, salt, pepper, the basil, oregano mix, but it's no cheese. Add hot peppers. That's the little, you know, the little extra that we throw in this to make it the breeze number nine. And not just the number nine. So with. And all the proceeds are going to the Breeze Dream foundation and boys and girls clubs around the country. So appreciate that.

[Noah]

With Jimmy Johns, how do you know what to look for or should we know what to look for with rookie quarterbacks in preseason?

[Devin]

Well, first thing I say is experience. Just, just take. Obviously a ton of QBs have been drafted here over the last three years, you know, in the first round, so. Or four years. So first and foremost, how many games, how many high level starts do they have in college? And I think that makes a huge difference. I think if you just start looking at, hey, the guys that had 4050, even six bone mix 61 starts in college. Those guys come into the league a lot more well prepared than the guys who, man, there's a ton of talent, a ton of upside, a ton of potential. Started 15 games, started 17 games. There's just, you just need, I think 40 to 50 high level starts before you really kind of find that, that, that comfort level. And so if you do take a guy like that, then it's going to take two or three years. Obviously the, the team that you're a part of, the system that you're in, that has, that has, that plays a big role in it. But I think first and foremost you have to look at experience and then how are you building the system around him? What type of, what type of Runway does he have in order to, to grow and develop? You know, I think you look at the guys probably who had the most success last year. Jaden Daniels, Bo Nicks, right? So those two examples, Jane Daniels, bunch of starts at Arizona State, comes to lsu, bunch of high level starts there. He comes in the league, I think, very well prepared. Boneck, 61, starts right between Auburn and Oregon, comes in fairly well prepared. So I think it's a big, that's a big factor.

[Noah]

I'm wondering how we're going to look at quarterbacks in the future because Lamar Jackson could end up with 10,000 rushing yards, which is unheard of. I mean, for a running back, 10,000 yards is a great career. Josh Allen, he could end up with 8,000 yards rushing. You look at the number of touchdowns, Josh Allen's going to end up with more rushing touchdowns than any other quarterback in history. He'll move past Cam Newton. So I don't know how we. Everybody's throwing for a lot of yards. But now you have this other category in here. How will we differentiate or assess quarterbacks? You know, bigger picture, hall of Fame wise, when you're adding something that we really haven't seen the. Michael Vick gave us this. Steve Young a little bit. Cam Newton gave us. Now it feels like, as Steve Young told me many times, there's yards to get. Go get them if you're a quarterback.

[Devin]

Look, it's a, it's a great point. It's a great point because I think when you start talking about QVs in history and the comparisons, you immediately go to the passing statistics. And obviously in today's game, it's so much more than that. At the end of the day, what's your job? Your job is to go put your team in the end zone. And so however you can do that. It doesn't matter whether it's through the air or on the ground. I think that Steve Young quote is a great one. There's yards to get, you know, go get them. There's first downs to get, go get them. So however you can do that. That's why the whole QB rating thing is always so wonky, right? Because it's like, well, how are we really evaluating the efficiency or the productivity of a quarterback when you have all these different layers to it? I mean, you should have somebody sitting there going, man, he threw the ball away. That was actually an incredible decision. That shouldn't work against him on the QB rating. Right? So you have all these factors and at the end of the day, did you, did you possess the ball? Did you get first downs and push team in the end zone? Did you score points? Did. Was that complimentary to your defense? Did that get you the win? I mean, that's, that's, that's truly how you should be evaluated.

[Noah]

Well, also when you don't take a sack, I mean that's like there's little things. I agree. QBr, to me, I, I don't like it. I want to know if you won the game. It's the most important thing. Yeah, but they don't have a category.

[Devin]

Yeah, yeah, look, I think you actually brought up a good point. I think one of the greatest traits of a quarterback that is, is, is never discussed, especially in the evaluation of it, is their ability to avoid sacks and avoid negative plays. That, that when you just look, start looking at the probabilities and the percentages of success on, you know, third and six versus third and 10. And just like your ability to avoid negative plays and a lot of times too, that could just be, hey, I have a decision when I walk up the line of scrimmage to run the ball right, run the ball left, run it inside or run it outside. And the decision that you make in large part could be the difference between a two or three yard gain or a one yard loss. And so there's so many of these decisions that are made within the framework of a game where If I'm evaluating QBs and I'm sitting there watching the tape, I want to know what type of decision maker they are because if they are making more good decisions, then good results will follow. There's a lot of things that we can fix fundamentally and whatever, hey, you missed a throw, but you threw it to the right place and you're on time, that's fine, we can fix that. Right? But if, if you have a great decision making process and you are consistently making good decisions and you're avoiding sacks and you're putting yourself in favorable positions, meaning high probability for success positions. Then you're going to win a ton of games and I think when you really start to break it down, that's what you're looking for.

[Noah]

Great to catch up with you again. Hope the family's well and good luck with Jimmy John's and Boys and Girls Clubs of America.

[Devin]

Thank you. Dp.

[Noah]

That's future hall of Famer there. Drew Brees. His longest run, 23 yards. He ran for 700 yards in his career. That's. That's Lamar. That's a down year for Lamar. Running buddy wasn't paid, right? But you weren't paid to run. You weren't paid to run. You. You could have been elusive, right?

[Devin]

Hey, move the chains. Get your team.

[Noah]

Okay.

[Devin]

I'd much rather throw it to the guys.

[Noah]

Could you outrun Peyton Manning?

[Devin]

Absolutely. Smoke him. Crush him.

[Noah]

Could you outrun Tom Brady?

[Devin]

Legs. He's all torso.

[Noah]

Brady? Yeah.

[Devin]

Brady would be at the 25 yard line when I crossed the 40.

[Noah]

Wow. How would you do against Lamar Jackson?

[Devin]

No, he would be at the 40.

[Noah]

You're still competitive. Thank you, buddy. We'll take a break. More phone calls after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live Life's messy.

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[Manny]

Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this.

[Drew Brees]

Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone to land this plane.

[Manny]

Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying, like, okay, pull this. Until this. Pull that, turn this.

[Noah]

It's just.

[Manny]

I can do my eyes closed. I'm Manny.

[Paulie]

I'm Noah.

[AZ Fudd]

This is Devin.

[Manny]

And on our new show, no Such Thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence.

[Noah]

Those who lack expertise lack the expertise. They need to recognize that they lack expertise.

[Manny]

And then as we try the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the Runway. I'm looking at this thing.

[Noah]

See?

[Manny]

Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[AZ Fudd]

Hey, guys, it's Az Fudd. You may know me as a gold medalist. You may know me as an NCAA national champion and recent most outstanding player. You may even know me as a people's princess. But now you're also going to know me as your favorite host. Every week on my new podcast, Fut around and Find Out, I'll give you an inside look at everything happening in my crazy life as I try to balance it all, from my travels across the globe to preparing for another run at the natty with my UConn Huskies, to just trying to make it to my midterms on time. You'll get the inside scoop on everything. I'll be talking to some special guests about pop culture, basketball and what it's like to be a professional athlete on and off the court. You'll even get to have some fun with the Fudd family. So if you follow me on social media or watch me on tv, you may think you know me, but this show is the only place where you can really fudd around and find out. Listen to Fudd around and Find Out. A production of iHeart Women's Sports in partnership with Unanimous Media on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Drew Brees]

Have you ever looked at a piece of abstract art or music or poetry and thought that's just a bunch of pretentious nonsense? Well, that's exactly what two bored Australian soldiers set out to prove during World War II when they pulled off what was either a bold literary hoax or a grand poetic experiment, publishing over a dozen intentionally bad but highly acclaimed works of expressionist poetry under the name Ern Malley. In an incident that caused a media firestorm and even a criminal trial, the Ern Malley Episode made pools of believers and critics alike and still fascinates poetry lovers to this day. We break down the truth, the lies, and the poetry in between on Hoax, a new podcast hosted by me, Lizzie Logan, and me, Dana Schwartz. Every episode, Hoax explores an audacious fraud or ruse from history, from forged artworks to the original fake news. To try and answer why we believe, listen to Hoax on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Betrayal Weekly is back for season two with brand new stories. The detective comes driving up fast and just like screeches right in the parking lot. I swear I'm not crazy, but I think he poisoned me. I feel trapped. My breathing changes.

[Noah]

More money, more money, more money.

[Drew Brees]

And I went white. I realized, wow, like, he is not a mentor. He's pretty much a monster. New stories, new voices, and shocking manipulations. This didn't just happen to me. It happened to hundreds of other people. But these aren't just stories of destruction. They're stories of survival, of people picking up the pieces and daring to tell the truth.

[Noah]

I'm going to tell my story and I'm going to hold my head up.

[Drew Brees]

Listen to Betrayal Weekly on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Noah]

More phone calls coming up. Dan and the Danettes, Dan Patrick show. Big matchup coming up this weekend. You got Clayton Kershaw, Max Scherzer, A rare showdown of pitchers who have at least 3,000 strikeouts. When's the last time you had two pitchers who were in the 3000 strikeout club? Because Justin Verlander's in the 3000 strikeout club. I don't know if he's faced off against either one of these guys, but do we have a matchup of 3,000 strikeout? I'm sure we do, but when's the last time that we had them? We'll slide into the weekend. Starts tonight. Shador Sanders taking on the Carolina Panthers Browns and the Panthers Lions. Falcons Commanders Patriots. So NFL preseason Devin McCourty, former Patriot, will join us as we assess the games coming up this weekend. The links in the Liberty. That's WNBA action. The Mets against the Brewers. Brewers have won 70 games. 70 and 44. And, well, we have soccer, too. You got Dortmund versus Juventus. It's a friendly, though. It's only a friendly. Don't get angry at each other. It's only a friendly. Sliding into the weekend, brought to you by Kings Hawaiian. They want you to have a summer to remember. You're going to be the king of the neighborhood. You just fire up the grill and make sure everybody knows the sliders. They're on King's Hawaiian Rolls. Slider buns. And enjoy. Kingsohine.com Paulie, do you have the last time we had a pair of pitchers with at least 3,000 strikeouts facing off against one another?

[Paulie]

The only thing I could find. September 2023, Scherzer versus Verlander.

[Noah]

Okay.

[Paulie]

Also, 200 game winners. Scherzer, three Cy Youngs, Clayton Kershaw, three Cy Youngs.

[Noah]

Zach in Minnesota. Hi, Zach. Thanks for holding. What's on your mind today? Good morning, dan. And dan up. 6 foot 3, 255. How are you guys doing this morning? Spectacular. Awesome. Hey, I. I told Tyler I call in about a question, but I'm gonna throw a couple things at you to start. Happy Gilmore. Loved it. Love the caterpillar that you had on your lip. That mustache was brilliant. Thank you. And you should rock that thing more often. So this could be a poll question for you guys. Which NFL coach do you trust more to win the super bowl this year? We're gonna go Kyle Shanahan, Jim Harbaugh, Dan Campbell, and then I'm gonna throw in a caveat of Sean Payton. He's already won one, but he's now obviously in Denver. So I wanted to throw that at you guys. Well, it's not necessarily the coach. Thank you, Zach. I mean, you got to have the roster because we saw what happened to Detroit when they lost Aiden Hutchinson. Doesn't matter how good Dan Campbell is as a coach, he can't replace Aiden Hutchinson. That's. I would go with. Give me the coach who has the best roster, the healthiest roster. You know, Jim Harbaugh just lost his starting left tackle. Sean Payton has high hopes for the Broncos and Bo Nicks. And it feels like there's members of the media who are looking at the Broncos and saying, that's more than just a playoff team. Todd has his Bronco. Is that a sweatshirt on today? I ordered this. When Russell Wilson first came to Denver, I got all excited and thought this was going to be the third quarterback to lead Denver to a Super bowl title. With Manning and Elway, Basically, it shows Russell Wilson, like, arm in arm with Manning and Elway, like they're the biggest trio of Super Bowl Bronco champions, which obviously did not play out that way. Sorry about that. And in Wisconsin. Hi, Ann. Good morning. What's on your mind today?

[Drew Brees]

Happy meet Friday. Dan, I know how much you love love, so I wanted to share this to Dory, my husband, Head Basketball coach Matt Hockett at UWSP got me tickets for tonight's show in Wisconsin, in Milwaukee for Darius Rucker.

[Noah]

And.

[Drew Brees]

And on the ticket, it says that he is performing with a special guest. I just need to confirm that it's not gonna be Todd Fritz.

[Noah]

And it's. It's not gonna be Todd. Right, Todd. It is not. So she's trying to say that she's gonna cancel going to the event if I'm the special guy. She just wanted to make sure that she was kind of geared up correctly. I don't know if it was a shot or she's, like, hoping. Are you making fun of Todd and. Oh, never. Never.

[Drew Brees]

I wouldn't want to do that.

[Noah]

And can you have Tyler put you on hold, and I want to get your number. Would you guys like to meet Darius before the show tonight?

[Drew Brees]

Oh, my gosh.

[Noah]

That would be a dream come true. Okay.

[Drew Brees]

So much, Dan.

[Noah]

Okay. All right. You stay on hold, and then I'll get your number, and then let me see if I can get you backstage to meet Darius. Yes. Todd, you are a stud. You just make dreams come true.

[Devin]

Like, you know, you just pull these.

[Noah]

Things out of a hat. It's very nice. Thank you. And I'm a journalist. You're a journalist. And a very thoughtful person. And a gentleman. And a gentleman. And I love, love. How about we take a break? We got 60 more minutes. Let's go. It's the Super Bowl. All right. Friday. Don't be mailing it in. Come on. Let's go. Come on. Here we go. Come on. Let's go. All right.

[Manny]

Why are TSA rules so confusing?

[Devin]

You got a hoodie on. Take it all.

[Manny]

I'm Manny.

[Noah]

I'm Noah.

[Devin]

This is Devin.

[Manny]

And we're best friends and journalists with a new podcast called no Such Thing, where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming? Well, I can't expect. What to do now if the rule was the same, Go off on me.

[Noah]

I deserve it, you know?

[Devin]

Lock him up.

[Manny]

Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Noah]

No Such thing.

[Drew Brees]

Betrayal Weekly is back for season two with brand new stories. The detective comes driving up fast and just, like, screeches right in the parking lot. I swear I'm not crazy, but I think he poisoned me. I feel trapped. My breathing changes. I realize, wow. Like, he is not a mentor. He's pretty much a monster. But these aren't just stories of destruction, their stories of survival.

[Noah]

I'm going to tell my story and I'm going to hold my head up.

[Drew Brees]

Listen to Betrayal Weekly on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Noah]

I'm Jake Hofer and this is back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focus on thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access? Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand. Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Drew Brees]

Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness. I'm Dani Shapiro and these are just a few of the powerful stories I'll be mining on our upcoming 12th season of Family Secrets. We continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Devin]

It's Black Business Month and Money and Wealth Podcast with John Hope Bryant is tapping in.

[Noah]

I'm breaking down how to build wealth.

[Devin]

Wealth, create opportunities and move from surviving to thriving. It's time to talk about ownership, equity and everything in between. Black and brown communities have historically been last in line. Let me just say this AI is moving faster than civil rights legislation ever did. Listen to Money and Wealth from the Black Effect podcast network on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Noah]

This is an iHeart podcast.