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Dan Patrick
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John Middelkoff
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Dan Patrick
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Paulie
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Dan Patrick
Are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio Hour 2 on this Wednesday Dan and the Danets Dan Patrick Show. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, that's our stre streaming partner. Download the app if you haven't done so. And we say good morning to our radio affiliates. IHeartRadio Fox Sports Radio merchandise store open for business. DanPatrick.com Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Coming up this Sunday, we'll do a streaming party. Again. It'll be Shay and Irving and myself, maybe some other Danets. Marvin came by, Paulie came by. And we won't stream it live when we're watching the Cowboys against the packers, but it'll be almost live because I can't trust Shane Irving and I'm reaching out to Nick Wright because he called me the last time we did this wanting to be part of the broadcast. Marvin, you might have to go pick up Nick Wright down in New York City.
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Todd
I'll be there.
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Dan Patrick
All right, but we'll have a streaming party. More details as you can watch us watch the Cowboys and the Packers. 8773-DP-SHoVE Email address dp@danpatrick.com Twitter handle At DP show we talked about a lot of baseball, the automatic or automated balls and strikes. It's called abs, but they keep calling it Robo umps, which to me is a terrible name because it conjures up, you know, artificial beings out there. Machines are taking over baseball. Well, they're taking away jobs. No, you're still going to have umpires out there. You'll just have a big eye in the sky that's going to make sure that they get the calls correctly. It'll be automated just like it is in tennis. So they're going to that in 2026, by the way. Just a little bit. But then they're going to go all in. Oklahoma State fires Mike Gundy. When Paulie and I were watching that game, Paulie said he didn't think Mike Gundy would make it until Monday. He did, but he didn't make it till Tuesday. Yes, Paulie.
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Marvin
Monday was buyout negotiation day. They kicked it to one more day.
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Dan Patrick
The Giants are going with Jackson Dart. We had Booger McFarland on last hour and he's like, why do we pick when a quarterback's going to start? Just get him out there. Whether it's at home against the Chargers or on the road the following week against the Saints. I understand the play to a home crowd that's going to be on your side as opposed to going to New Orleans. Now, if you don't beat the Chargers, who are undefeated, you know, maybe expectation levels won't be too high for him in that game. Whereas if you go to New Orleans and don't win, then all of a sudden it's like, oh, maybe we're doomed this year. I think Jackson Dart can play the position. I said that last year. I was told by my source who's a scout, he had a first round grade on and I, I saw enough of him at Ole Miss with Lane Kiffin with that offense going through the sec. I think he's sneaky, athletic and he's got, he's got a personality to him. Do I think he's the savior? I don't. Because you, you really got to figure out the offensive line. Do you have a running game? You got to keep Malik Neighbors happy. You know, he's one of those that he's always open and even when he's not open, he thinks he's open. And he wants to let you know his body language sometimes is terrible. You know, it just feels selfish. And, you know, it's not like Russell Wilson's not trying to get him the ball. In fact, maybe too much. You know, this goes back to Baker Mayfield with obj. You're trying to keep those guys happy. It's not always in the best interest of the team to try to keep those guys happy. But Malik Neighbors is a wonderful receiver and Jackson Dart will probably go to him, probably more than any other receiver, and rightfully so. But you're going against the Chargers and that's a really good defense. Seat and poll question for hour two.
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Paulie
Hour two. We're putting up on here from Paulie, who had the worst day yesterday, Mike Gundy, Russell Wilson, John Matier, or A.J. hinch.
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Dan Patrick
Ooh, A.J. hinch, the Tigers manager.
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Paulie
That's not great.
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Dan Patrick
Great season. Or at least it was. And now it's hanging in the balance there with the Guardians and Tigers tied atop the American League Central.
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Paulie
Gads.
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Dan Patrick
To get the escalator going up and down, you have to have One side win nine to 10, and then the Tigers losing nine of 10, and that's why we have a tie at the top of the American League Central. So the same guy who did miracles last year with this team, and now all of a sudden you have a big time collapse here.
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Marvin
Yeah, Paul, the Tigers were up 11 games three weeks ago. That's almost hard to do, mathematically.
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Paulie
Yeah, that is hard to do, actually.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, that is.
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Paulie
That is difficult to do.
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Dan Patrick
All right, so that's the hour two poll question.
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Paulie
Yeah, that is. That's what we're going with for hour two. Hour one. We had up there Robots in Baseball, umps or chumps. Right now, 67 of the audience have them as umps. Real umpires.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, yeah, I'm for change.
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Paulie
People are ready.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. You know, if they get the calls right. And that's what you want. It's interesting how we pick and choose with, you know, it's kind of the nuance of the game. You know, sometimes you got a friendly strike zone or you don't. You know, that referee always favors that team and doesn't like our team. He calls a lot of pass interference. That guy always calls holding. You want. I think we want consistency. Players will tell you, hey, if you're going to call a strike, is it going to be a strike in the first inning and in the seventh inning, in the ninth inning? That's all they want. Hey, if I'm going to be holding on or making contact with a wide receiver, are you calling that? Are you going to call that in the first quarter, not the fourth, or, you know, vice versa. That's all you want. And as a viewer, that's all we want. You know, tennis is doing this. They get the calls right. Nobody's complaining about that. They do automated. They're getting the call right now. Tennis isn't, you know, at the forefront of our viewing patterns, but I like the simplicity of it. It's like, okay, it's either in or out. There you go. You have cameras, the way they're positioned, they're going to get the calls right. And in that sport where those players tend to complain a lot, they don't. They can't complain about this. It's right there in front of him. And hopefully with baseball now, the problem I have with the automated balls and strikes is the height of the strike zone. Like how high? Remember, it used to be the armpits and your knees, like growing up. I mean, that's why I'm batting.238. Like, that pitch is high now, you know, it's a little bit lower. But I think trying to get that, because obviously everybody is different when they go to the plate. Altuve and Aaron judge different strike zone, and as long as they can be fair to the size of the hitter, then okay, I'm fine with that. You should be able to get it going over the plate. Is it over the plate? Is it on the edge, on the black? But then how high is, you know, high or too high? And how low is too low? Those would be my questions with the automated balls and strikes.
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Marvin
Yes, Paul, according to MLB.com like the plate, the automated strike zone is 17 inches wide. The top end of the zone is 53.5% of the player's height, and the bottom is at 27% of the player's height. So it appears that it adjusts by the height of the player that's up to bat. It appears that way.
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Dan Patrick
It adjusts to the player's size.
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Marvin
Yes. But it also says here that they use a compilation of the height of people in Major League Baseball currently what the average height is to build the strike zone. So it's unclear if it. If Altuve is the same as judges. It's unclear right now.
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Dan Patrick
Well, it can't be. Yeah, no, no, you can't. I mean, that'd be silly because it'd be over up by his head, you know, the strike.
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Marvin
But should it be fixed? Because the pitchers, you know, have to adjust by the player should they pitch to a spot.
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Dan Patrick
Well, what is the strike zone? That's what they have to decide. And the strike zone has to adjust in accordance to who the hitter is. Though. As long as they can adjust to that, then, you know, I'm fine with it. I just don't want it to be like, man, that pitch was around El Tuve's head and they called it a strike. As long as, you know, this is what baseball players want. You go to the plate, you know what is going to be a strike and what is going to be a ball. This guy favors lower. This guy favors, you know, higher strikes. Now, you don't have that now. It's just this is the strike zone, and they don't have any jurisdiction over that. Not the umpire that, you know, the eye in the sky does. Yes. Yeah.
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Paulie
Like, I, you know, I feel like you just said that backwards. Now you know exactly what the strike zone is. Before, you didn't.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, right.
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Paulie
Yeah. So, like, yeah, right. You didn't know if, if a guy felt like calling it that day, maybe he would call those low balls. But today I don't feel like. So today I don't feel like calling it on the corner. Now, you know exactly what it is.
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Dan Patrick
But I remember talking to Tom Glavin about this, and he admitted that he and Maddox got calls that they would give them around the plate. Wade Boggs talked about this, that he would get called him. Tony Gwynn told me that. He said, he goes, I know there are times when I would take a pitch, it's a strike, but the umpire would call it a ball because I took that pitch. You just. You remove that now. That's all. Now we get rid of those personalities behind home plate, because those umpires can be certainly full of themselves that they think you are coming to see them. Come on, kids, let's go see Joe West.
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Paulie
All right.
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Todd
Thanks, dad.
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Dan Patrick
Hey, Ken Kaiser's gonna be there. All right. Who has it better than we do? No, buddy. All right. Yes.
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Todd
Todd, you have to account for height. Like, even in Little League, it was always shoulders to the kneecaps. And even if you change it a little bit, you know, a strike zone for Altuve and Aaron Judge, you know, however they want to do it across the middle, but, you know, vertically, there's no way you can have the same strike zone for someone that's two feet taller than someone else.
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Dan Patrick
Thank you, Todd. Yes, Paul.
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Marvin
Yeah. It appears that going to spring training, they're going to measure every position player's height to see what it is, and then use the model that way. It does say this. They did some research, and the umpire zone of the past 10 years has been more lenient to pitchers. And the average strike was in a zone strike zone of 449 square inches. The new ABS zone will be 443 square inches. So the strike zone should be tighter going forward.
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Dan Patrick
Just call it. Have a universal strike zone. I don't need your damn personality in the game. You know, I. I'm a little pitcher friendly. I'm going to give you that call I like to call a low strike. What is. What is a strike and what is a ball? That's all we've. We've let them get. It's just like the guy in the batter's box. I'm going to step out, step back in, step back and step back in. We allowed that, and then all of a sudden we were like, you have to step out every pitch. Yes.
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Todd
Marvin, you don't want more kids dressed like umpires at games.
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Dan Patrick
No, no, don't need that. Robots, I guess who came up with the robots here? Because it's not a robot. I got to talk to the commissioner. They need something better than this. Robots. Curtis in Illinois. Hi, Curtis. What's on your mind today?
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Caller
Morning, dp? First off, as much as I like the idea of the MLB getting all the calls, right. I don't know what my Facebook feed will look like for baseball videos without batters and managers losing their mind all the time. Also, as much as you've been getting all your love for your interviews that you do, I think your post DP show, I guess, pseudo career should be like a weekly podcast with the other Danets that's unfiltered, kind of like DT takes a gamble. I think all of us die hard DP fans, we kind of love a non PG version of you guys. They want to help wean us off of the show every day.
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Dan Patrick
All right, well, thank you, Curtis. I'll take that under consideration. That gambling podcast that gets loose, that's every Thursday. We tape that with Bad Larry, Shay and Irving Dylan, the graphics guy. Yes, Marvin.
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Todd
It said every single week. Adp. Do you want me to take anything out?
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Dan Patrick
Yes. And every single week, I ask you to take something out. Every single week, I'll go. Bad Larry can't say that. Shay can't say that. We shouldn't say that. Yes, Paul.
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Marvin
I did some research on this strike zone thing. When we're watching TV on ESPN or Fox, whatever it is, and they have that box strike zone on your screen, the TV networks do not adjust it based off the player's height. So that's another thing that will have to be changed because the box you see on the TV is the same for Altuve and Judge and all the other players.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, that's why you can't go with that. Even the camera, that's not exactly behind, you know, center field, behind the pitcher, it's not. It's off to the right. Therefore, you know, it's a little bit of an optical illusion with the plate. Jeremy in Alabama. Hi, Jeremy. What's on your mind?
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Caller
Hey, Dan. Six two. I look like a toothpick with the olive down the middle of it. 200. I have an idea that you can also throw to the commissioner if you like it. I think it's a good idea. It might help out your hatred for the runner on second. If you take decide that you don't want to have any outs to begin the inning, then you don't put a runner on base. If you want one out, then you get to put your runner at second. And if you go two outs, you get your runner at third.
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Dan Patrick
No, no, no, no. I can't, I can't, I can't. Jeremy, every sport adds. I want to subtract. The NFL is famous for, hey, we got a rule. All right, we're going to add this to the rule and then add this to the rule instead of just simplifying it. I can't do it. No, we can't do one out. Second base, two ounce, third base. How about we just play baseball? Yeah. Paul.
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Marvin
It's funny, over the years when I'm watching soccer or watching rugby, someone goes, I don't understand it. It's confusing. I don't understand the rules. They don't have that many rules. Like soccer has like four rules during a match. Rugby has like three. There's very few rules involved.
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Dan Patrick
But look at what the NFL did with the catch. I mean, it's silly. I complete the process.
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Paulie
You have to establish when you caught the ball.
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Dan Patrick
Go back to that Calvin Johnson touchdown. The game, you know, that Calvin Johnson play that changed everything. He got up to celebrate. Did he complete the process? I'm like, oh, my God, yes, he did. It's a touchdown. Complete the process. Did the ground cause a fumble? I. I don't know. Why is it we can play in the backyard and we can play, you know, pick up football and you don't have to have all those rules. Did he catch it? Two feet in balance. Complete the process. All right, we'll take a break. More phone calls coming up. Dan Hurley with his memoir coming up in an hour.
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Paulie
Yes, it sounds like you're arguing for more human element in football, but want it out of baseball.
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Dan Patrick
No, I just want him to simplify what we see. Now. If you want to put more, you put an eye in the sky for that. I'm fine.
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Paulie
How do you figure out what is a catch?
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Dan Patrick
I don't know. But for all of those different, you know, decades that I watch football, I don't remember that being, is that a catch or not a catch? We just like, I can't remember that. Where he'd be like, I don't know. Did. Did he catch that ball? Yeah. No. Did he complete the process? Both feet and simplified. NFL simplified. Take a break. Back after this Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, we're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day, 5 to 7pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to.
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Covino
And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show. We never get to everything honestly, because this guy is over promising things we never have time for.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, you blubber lips, blaming me. Well, you know what? It's called Over Promise. You should be good at it because you've been overpromising women for years.
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Covino
Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're gonna be talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time, it will continue on our after show called Over Promised.
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Dan Patrick
Well, if you don't get enough Covino and Rich and make sure you check out Over Promise and also uncensored, by the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's going to be the best after show podcast of all time.
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Covino
There you go. Over Promising. And remember, you could see it on YouTube, but definitely. Join us. Listen to Over Promised with Covino and rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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John Middelkoff
This is John Middelkopf from three and out with John Middelkoff. Thursday Night Football is on and it's only on Prime Video. This week, the Seattle Seahawks face the Arizona Cardinals in an NFC west showdown. Coverage begins at 7pm Eastern with Football's Best Party TNF tonight presented by Verizon. Not a Prime member? Not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. It's the Seahawks and the Cardinals Thursday at 7pm Eastern only on Prime Video. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com Amazon prime for details.
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Todd
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Dan Patrick
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Caller
Hey.
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Dan Patrick
But it came off as a. Instead of a, I'd like to have maybe a half honk. Like just a. That says, hey, you know, pay attention. Here we go. Instead of a. And then all of a sudden, I get a finger out the window, somebody flips me off because I'm honking at them. And you should get two and a half seconds before it's. I have to honk. It's all, it's just small thing. But I don't know if, you know, maybe Elon Musk with his, you know, next car invention could have the friendly honk in there. The. Instead of. Yes, Todd.
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Todd
Especially if you're familiar with that particular light. And it stays green for three seconds and then it's red for like seven and a half minutes. And this guy, at the last second, he goes through and he finally wakes up to go. And now you're stuck there.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, but like, I start my morning getting flipped off and then I'm like, really? You're the one that was on your phone at the light. The arrow is pointing left. And then I just. Yes, Paul.
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Marvin
Yeah, the half honk is tough to pull off because, like, my truck has a full horn and I try to do the little tap the fist on it to get that little hunk.
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Todd
Yes.
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Marvin
And. But I have to do like three or four times, and sometimes I don't complete the process.
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Dan Patrick
Just a friendly little Nudge that. Okay. Come on, let's go. Hey, Everybody's got a place to go.
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Paulie
You kind of like, you tap on the horn with, like, the soft side of your fist, baby.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, yeah. We all have to go someplace. I gotta entertain a nation. Yes. Yes. Time.
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Todd
If you're on the receiving end of getting honked, because for whatever reason, you were a little distracted. You just weren't looking up at the light and you didn't go right away. When someone hunked you, are you more likely to flip the bird or give it, like, a little wave?
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Dan Patrick
Like.
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Todd
Sorry, I. That was off for a second.
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Dan Patrick
I'll just go. Hey.
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Todd
Okay. My bad.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if I'm, you know, gonna put on some music and all of a sudden I'm changing the channel a little bit there, and then maybe. Maybe. Maybe it's two. Two seconds. Two seconds. And then I. No problem. If you're gonna nudge me along there, I'm down above it. I mean, I've done that before myself. Yes. Paul. Yeah.
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Marvin
If you realize you're guilty of sitting at a stoplight and when it's green, you give the hand wave. The full hand wave. It's like, I accept guilt.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Paulie
My bad.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. That's all.
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Marvin
Do you think they should teach the courtesy hand wave? I'm not kidding. In.
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Dan Patrick
At driving schools, I probably don't want you driving with one hand on the wheel.
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Marvin
No, but the. Let's say you accidentally cut someone off. The courtesy hand wave can end a lot of problems for people.
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Dan Patrick
I usually do that. If I'm going to. It's going to be a little tight. I'll wave to the person to say, hey, you know, I'm acknowledging this and sometimes. My bad. But maybe just a polite horn. Yes, Todd.
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Todd
A few weeks ago, I wanted to do the polite my bad, because I thought I got to the stop sign a little before the other person. Not that it's a competition or anything. And he gave me such a nasty finger and look. And he had a woman with him out of his wife or girlfriend. There was definitely a kid in the backseat. And you would think that I bashed into his car. And I realized for a second, and my wife said to me, I think, you know, he got there, you know, first. You know, you should have let him go. But he was such an angry, almost road.
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Dan Patrick
Well, there's a lot of that now. There's a lot of that. People don't turn on their blinkers and people speed cut in front of you. That seems like there's More and more that I have found myself with both hands on the wheel and then I'll flip my. My bird finger up just a little bit. Now, I don't do a full flip somebody off. It's just a little symbolic. Yeah. But it's for myself.
- [29:18]
Paulie
I told you. That happened to me once driving, and I went around somebody because this dude was in the left hand lane and wouldn't move over. So I just went around him and I didn't give him the finger or anything. I didn't even really look at him, but I went around him and when I looked in my rearview mirror, the. He had his both hands on the wheel and his one finger just extended and then came back out because he was there with his wife next to him and he couldn't do it.
- [29:39]
Dan Patrick
And I respect that. And I have done that. I've done that a couple of times where just like it. But it's only for me. Even if he doesn't see it, I feel like, all right, I got that out there.
- [29:53]
Paulie
I am a middle finger giver. I am a middle finger getter. I will follow the person all the way by me. I am a really. I can be incredibly aggressive with my middle fingers to the point where I'm trying to curb that.
- [30:08]
Dan Patrick
Wow.
- [30:08]
Paulie
Yeah.
- [30:09]
Dan Patrick
Any confrontations?
- [30:12]
Paulie
What, like where I got out of the car or something? No.
- [30:15]
Dan Patrick
Okay. No. I went through a yellow light and a guy was gonna make the turn, and he chased after me like it was a full on. Like, I'm like, oh, my God. And swear on the Bible that I. It was a yellow light that I went through. But he was going to make a right turn and he followed me for a couple of miles. Like I was going, I'll just go down this street. He went down that street. I'm going to go over here. So I stopped and I have my camera out, you know, on my phone, and he's yelling at me. I said, how can you yell at me going through a yellow light being reckless if you're being reckless, trying to catch me to tell me that I was reckless? And then he said, don't play that word magic with me. I was like, I don't know. He didn't know who I was. But I just. I'm filming this because I'm thinking, all right, I don't know what's going to happen here. I don't know if guy's got a gun. Yes.
- [31:13]
Todd
Todd, I was going to ask, did you fear for your safety that this guy's going to, like, corner you and you know, as you're trying to pull away from him and go up and down streets that you're not going to just to get away from this I.
- [31:22]
Dan Patrick
Have to admit, you know, pulse rate was up just a little bit because you don't know. And then all of a sudden, you know, the guys around my age, and that's when I had to. I had to verbally spank him and say, you can't complain about me, you know, being reckless if you're going to be reckless trying to track me down. Yes.
- [31:42]
Paulie
Sometime in the last, like year or so, I forget exactly how long it's been, but I've decided to just. I get to a certain speed, about 69 miles an hour, and I just set my cruise control and I just stay at that. Nothing will teach you more about how people drive, nor nothing will scare you more about how people drive than doing that. It is absolute madness when you're just at 69 and 15 out of every 16 cars are flying by you. They're pissed at you for going so slow. They're like doing all this. It is crazy to observe the roads when you're sort of set at that one.
- [32:21]
Dan Patrick
I also hate when somebody is in such a hurry to pull out, but then they go under the speed limit. Yeah.
- [32:28]
Marvin
They cut you off and stop.
- [32:29]
Dan Patrick
Yes. Like go. Like if you're gonna do that and then just go. And then all of a sudden it's a 25 mile an hour zone and they're going 22. And I'm going, you got to be kidding me. Yes.
- [32:40]
Todd
Todd, what if you're in the left lane, which is the faster lane, and you're going easily at least 10 miles an hour faster than you're supposed to be. So you're going 75 and someone is on your tail. Are you more likely to be stubborn while you around me? I'm staying put. And is the speed I'm going or do you let them go through?
- [32:54]
Dan Patrick
What do you do, Tom?
- [32:55]
Todd
I. I usually say go around me is my attitude. I'm like, I know you're trying to, you know, you know, I'm looking at my rear view, it looks like they're in my backseat and they try to scare me into going faster or getting out of their way.
- [33:06]
Dan Patrick
I think you're supposed to move over.
- [33:08]
Todd
But why they, why are they being such direction? They're like, on, if I stop, if I go one mile an hour slower, he's going to crash into me. It's literally on my bumper. Because 77 miles an hour is not fast enough for him in the left lane. So I'm like, no, I'm not going any faster. Go around me.
- [33:22]
Dan Patrick
Okay, that makes me feel better.
- [33:24]
Todd
And then he comes. Then finally they go around you, and then you give each other that look like you mother.
- [33:28]
Dan Patrick
Yeah. And he's doing the same to you. Yes.
- [33:31]
Paulie
I often watch, like, that exact person who's one of my least favorite people on the road. The guy who just won't move over. The person who just won't move over.
- [33:40]
Todd
Todd, I'm already going 15 miles an hour faster than speed limit.
- [33:44]
Paulie
Oh, he was 10 miles an hour.
- [33:45]
Dan Patrick
Now it's 15 miles an hour.
- [33:46]
Paulie
95'S not fast enough for you?
- [33:49]
Todd
If I'm going 73, 75.
- [33:51]
Paulie
Just move over. Just move over. And then there's so many times that you're sitting in, like, three lanes of traffic, and there's like, a tractor trailer, a school bus, and then one guy that just won't move over. Just move over.
- [34:06]
Marvin
Yes, Paul, I promise you, after hearing this conversation, Todd is not going to move over going forward. He is going to sit in that left lane and look in his rearview mirror angrily at that person who's crowding.
- [34:16]
Todd
Unless someone's screaming behind me out there where my wife's having a baby or there's some kind of medical emergency. Go around me. You're big frigging rush. You got to go 85 miles an hour. It's not a race.
- [34:25]
Marvin
Seaton's right, though. You're setting up a pass on the right situation, which is the most dangerous thing on a highway by you.
- [34:32]
Paulie
All you have to do is move over.
- [34:33]
Todd
No, but then there's the jerks that are, like, they decided that it's going to be the Indy 500. Them and their friends. They're now racing each other. There's two or three cars zipping in and out of lanes, putting everyone's lives in danger because they're in a big race to get from one.
- [34:43]
Paulie
Well, it sounds like maybe you should move over and get out of the way so they can pass you safely.
- [34:47]
Dan Patrick
Go around me.
- [34:48]
Todd
I'm already going past the speed limit.
- [34:49]
Paulie
The only person worse than go around me guy is everyone's merging into the lane of traffic, but I'm going to sit in between the two so nobody can get me. I'm not letting anybody buy me. I'm not letting anybody buy that person should have their driver's license taken away. They are the worst person officially on the road.
- [35:08]
Dan Patrick
But you do have New Yorkers who feel like I I can merge wherever I want to merge here. I'm going to go in front of everybody. I'm going to go on the, you know, the side of the road to then pull up and then pull in.
- [35:23]
Paulie
Going on the side of the road is one thing. When you're in a perfectly open lane, they do the cones right. For a reason. That's where they want you to go. Up to the cones and then merge at the cones.
- [35:33]
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
- [35:34]
Paulie
The person who does it 150ft in front of the cones and then doesn't let anybody over because I'm not letting you through is the lamest person in the world.
- [35:42]
Dan Patrick
In the world.
- [35:44]
Paulie
There is no bigger loser on the planet than that person.
- [35:46]
Dan Patrick
Once again, this just started with a little. That's all.
- [35:50]
Paulie
Now we're not deserve the courtesy.
- [35:52]
Dan Patrick
We've got road rage here.
- [35:54]
Paulie
Oh, my God.
- [35:54]
Dan Patrick
Yes. Marvin.
- [35:55]
Todd
Yeah. The worst drivers, New York City, easily only because. Honk, honk. I can't go any faster. I'm fifth in line. I'm fifth in line. Why are you. Why are you living on the horn? You don't have to do that. It's not going any faster. I can't go any faster. There's three cars ahead of me.
- [36:14]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but that just feels like that's a New York thing. That's, you know, that it's a weapon that they have, that horn. Yeah, Paul.
- [36:21]
Marvin
But you've driven in New York, Dan. It's almost like there's a collective etiquette. We're all going to be aggressive here. So if you're not aggressive driving in New York, that's your problem. If you don't match the tone.
- [36:31]
Dan Patrick
Yes.
- [36:32]
Todd
And the worst thing you could do is signal if you want to change lanes. Especially in New York. It's like, oh, you're not getting in front of me. As soon as you see someone's signal, that's their cue to, like, speed up and block you from getting it. So the best thing to do is to cut somebody off. That's the only way you're going to get into that lane. Can't let them know you want to get over them. That's when they go, no way.
- [36:47]
Dan Patrick
Jeremy in Ventura. Hi, Jeremy. What's on your mind?
- [36:52]
Caller
Hey. First time, long time. Dan. 5:11, 192. It's kind of funny. I'm a traffic technician. You guys are talking about, you know, the signage and merging over. So I work a lot in la.
- [37:07]
Dan Patrick
What is. What does a traffic technician do?
- [37:11]
Caller
So we lay down the cones, like when we get away from Like a car hit, pull or a blown transformer or an accident. People speed.
- [37:20]
Dan Patrick
Mm.
- [37:21]
Caller
So you know, when there's signs that are saying, you know, road work ahead and whatnot should always take care of paying attention what's on the road, because there's always. You never know. So going even 15 miles an hour faster. Think about people who like cattle. They just kind of follow along and one person does the next. By the way, it's my 40th birthday today, just like Paulie. So happy birthday, Paul, and a longtime Charger fan. And I want to do a challenge to Fritzi. No, not another one of those. Yeah, for the end of the year. So we know how it goes being a Charger fan. Winning three division games this year. It's going to count towards the end of the year. And I'm going to the end of the year on all three in division games. So you're willing to take a pie to the face. I'm down to take the Bronco Charger game at the end of the year.
- [38:16]
Todd
Oh, the Chargers are going to sweep Denver. That's what we're saying.
- [38:19]
Dan Patrick
Yeah. So the Broncos game against the Chargers.
- [38:21]
Todd
Okay. I would be. How could I. Yeah. How could I say no to that? They got to split and find a way to win the one in Denver.
- [38:27]
Dan Patrick
All right. Thank you, Jeremy. Be safe out there. I think we owe him and Paulie happy birthday. Here.
- [38:43]
Paulie
Left lane.
- [38:45]
Dan Patrick
Road rage. Honk. Dan in Wisconsin. Hi, Dan. What's on your mind today, Dan?
- [38:54]
Caller
Hey, this is Dan. I do say. We had a big pickup for the franchise on Sunday morning. We had McIntyre Edward by a C section. Eight pounds, three ounces, 20 and a half inches.
- [39:07]
Dan Patrick
Mack. Yeah.
- [39:09]
Caller
Little Mac. Little Mac, Little macaroon. Still, I mean, I think we're actually crushing it with the baby stuff. We'll let our pediatrician decide that. But we got a big problem. He was born Sunday, packers lost, and we're on a three game losing streak for the Brewers. I just need some assurances that this baby coming to the world didn't wreck our chances in October here. I need some tangible. I need some tangible assurances here.
- [39:36]
Todd
I don't.
- [39:36]
Dan Patrick
I don't know if I'd bring that up to your wife, you know, after a C section. Just say, I don't know. I think Max a bad, you know, bad luck.
- [39:46]
Paulie
You got to burn some sage around this kid or something.
- [39:49]
Dan Patrick
Yeah. I think you're going to be okay with the packers, the Brewers. It was a wonderful regular season. I just don't know if they're Built for the postseason. Hey, you can always fall back on the Wisconsin badge.
- [40:03]
Todd
Maryland Terps took them down.
- [40:06]
Dan Patrick
Congratulations on the. The baby there, Dan. And don't give percentile. Okay, Just. Just a heads up, you know, you don't have to give the percentile of my child is in the 98th percentile or you don't have to do that because it doesn't mean anything. And, and, and I have been around it, and I act like I'm interested and I'm not. And I have two grandkids and I don't care about their percentile. They'll eventually get to where they need to get. I don't need to know. You're in the 68th percentile. Okay, we celebrate. Yes.
- [40:47]
Marvin
Paul, Height is not an accomplishment.
- [40:50]
Dan Patrick
Look at my kid.
- [40:51]
Marvin
He's taller than one third of his class. Like, they're going to the NBA. Everyone thinks he's going to be on the Knicks.
- [40:58]
Dan Patrick
My son was 24 inches long when he was born. It didn't matter. He couldn't play basketball, but it was like, ah, you know, he's in the 100 percentile. Okay. Height and weight. How much does does she weigh? She weighs seven. Seven what? Percentile? I'm like, it doesn't matter. Yeah.
- [41:19]
Marvin
Paul, you know how I sometimes inject awkward things? And there's a couple near me about a year ago, and they were talking, they were very tall, this couple, and they're talking about their son. And like, yeah, yeah, he went in and they measured him. He's off the charts. Like, way off the charts. Like, I kind of rose my hand. I go, how could he be off the charts? At the end of the chart? He'd be at that end. It didn't go over well in the room. They were celebrating this kid's height.
- [41:43]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I don't know how to act when somebody says 100 percentile or, you know, 50th percent. I. I don't know what you do. Yes, Marvin.
- [41:51]
Todd
Oh, two tall people having a tall kid.
- [41:53]
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
- [41:53]
Todd
Who would have thought?
- [41:57]
Dan Patrick
All right, let's take a break. Let's take a break. More phone calls coming up. If you're Russell Wilson, do you ask to be released by the Giants? We'll talk about that after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.
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- [46:44]
Todd
But would that also say even if you're going way above the speed limit, let them go by. Like, it feels like there should be a little more to the story then. It's not that black and white, but if you said to a police officer, this person wants to pass, I'm already breaking the law and this person's going even faster than me. The safest thing to do is for him to be on my butt, like he's going to crash into my car because I'm not going fast.
- [47:04]
Dan Patrick
Well, hopefully the police would arrest him for going too fast.
- [47:07]
Todd
We should both get a ticket.
- [47:08]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but you're not the speed police.
- [47:11]
Todd
No, but if you're. Unless you're a fire engine or a police or an ambulance or a police car. And what are you on my. You're about to crash into my car. You're that close. In my rearview mirror, it looks like you're sitting in my backseat. What is that?
- [47:21]
Dan Patrick
Guessing.
- [47:23]
Paulie
There is a new law in Connecticut that starts October 1, 2026.
- [47:31]
Dan Patrick
Okay.
- [47:32]
Paulie
That will ticket drivers who, quote, camp in the passing lane without actively passing another vehicle.
- [47:39]
Dan Patrick
Oh, Todd, that needs to be elaborated on too.
- [47:42]
Todd
What is the camping speed? That's a very vague term that they think I think they need to. What? Camp. I'm not camping out. I'm not pulled over. I'm not one of these old guys or old ladies driving 30 miles an hour on the highway where you're like, geez, it's gonna take me four hours. I gotta get around this person. Well, they're going 30 because they're afraid to drive. They shouldn't even be on the highway at 30. I'm already going, like, 70, 75. And that's not fast enough.
- [48:03]
Dan Patrick
Okay. Why do you have to say 30 miles an hour? Okay.
- [48:05]
Todd
Because there are a lot of elderly people. God bless them. I wish my mom had a driver's license, and so we would have to take her everywhere that she can kind of come and go. But they go exceptionally slow. Not all of them.
- [48:14]
Dan Patrick
This is way too deep. Nobody's going 30 miles an hour.
- [48:18]
Todd
How is 75 miles an hour of camping out?
- [48:20]
Dan Patrick
Just move over.
- [48:22]
Todd
I want them to describe what camping out. They need to elaborate. They can't just throw out.
- [48:26]
Paulie
That's what's crazy about this whole thing. Rather than just being like, wow, that person was close and moving over, you're.
- [48:32]
Dan Patrick
Gonna allow them now? All of a sudden, I got little old ladies going 30 miles an hour.
- [48:38]
Todd
Yeah, I can't stand that either. You're going, what are you looking for a parking spot on the highway? Drive the car.
- [48:42]
Dan Patrick
Nobody is going 30 miles an hour on the highway.
- [48:44]
Todd
And then they're like, oh, I meant to hit the brake. I hit the gas. That's how I ended up in the CVS pharmacy. Through the glass windows. If it happens every once in a while, that's a whole other story.
- [48:53]
Paulie
On the highway. That CVS on the highway, they hit the wrong button.
- [48:57]
Todd
How's that car in someone's house? Oh, I meant to hit the 95.
- [49:01]
Paulie
North, that five lane, and in the middle of it, there's that CVS you can crash into if you don't hit the right pedal.
- [49:06]
Todd
If camping out is 75 miles an hour, what is not camping out?
- [49:09]
Dan Patrick
100. 120. Dan in Charleston. Dan in fu. Dan in Charleston. Hi, Dan.
- [49:16]
Caller
Good morning, Dan. How are you today?
- [49:18]
Dan Patrick
Oh, wonderful.
- [49:20]
Caller
All right, Todd, you are the epitome of a Delta Bravo on the highway. Get over.
- [49:28]
Todd
What is the big rush? Where's everybody going after people don't even work anymore. Everyone's retired police.
- [49:36]
Paulie
Maybe they really have to go to the bathroom, Todd. And trying to find.
- [49:41]
Todd
You gotta yell. So yell out your window. I gotta go to the bathroom. We're having a baby. The water broke.
- [49:46]
Paulie
They're three cars behind you because there's a car waiting for you to move over. Then another car, then another car, then another car and that person has an emergency, but they're four cars behind you now.
- [49:54]
Todd
I'd rather be honked, I guess or get the finger than to be on my tail where you're gonna cause an accident. If I go one mile an hour slower, we're gonna crash into each other other. That's what.
- [50:02]
Dan Patrick
But if you stay in the left lane, then the odds are you're going to get in an accident. If you move over to the middle lane, you let all those people go by.
- [50:10]
Todd
I don't think it's a dangerous move for the person behind me to go around me with the whole passive. We're not. I don't want to hear about passing laws because we're not caring about laws. Someone wants to go 95 miles an hour in the left lane. So obviously we don't care about laws.
- [50:21]
Marvin
There is nothing more dangerous on a three lane highway than forcing or anyone passing on the right. Passing on the right is where you get catastrophic accidents. As Todd. It's funny that, Todd, you're complaining about people going too fast in their cars when you said you're going 10 miles over the speed limit in that left lane. So you're capping people at your number.
- [50:39]
Todd
I'm literally looking at the rear view and trying to mouth to the person behind me who's basically in my backseat. It's like I'm already going much faster than I'm supposed to. What are you doing?
- [50:47]
Dan Patrick
Will you alter your driving on the highway?
- [50:50]
Todd
I don't think I will, but I have done both. I have moved over. But that's not a good enough excuse for me that the passing lane is the dangerous horrible thing will happen if the person goes around me. It's.
- [50:58]
Dan Patrick
It's called the passing lane.
- [51:00]
Todd
So the person on my tail going like 90, that's. That's a lot safer than him just going around me because it's the passing lane that I'm not following.
- [51:07]
Dan Patrick
You're making a situation potentially worse.
- [51:10]
Todd
The person behind me is creating the situation because he's riding right on top.
- [51:13]
Dan Patrick
You're not the speed police.
- [51:14]
Paulie
In order of things that we can rank from creating a safe environment to a less safe environment, probably the first safest thing to do is you move over. That. That would be the first thing, like, oh, best move right now. Why don't I just get out of this lane and let all the people who want to go faster than me go by me?
- [51:31]
Todd
The only reason, the only way I would move over is if I look through my river and this looks like some kind of big, crazy guy. And I'm like, I don't want to get involved in some, you know, road rage thing where this guy's gonna pull, knock, bang into my car, take out a whip.
- [51:41]
Dan Patrick
You don't have to do anything. You can stay in the middle lane. You don't have to worry about some guy, you know, angry behind you in a pickup truck.
- [51:50]
Todd
If he's in that much of a rush, he can also go around me. It takes the same amount of time for me to get up, move over, or him to go passing lane or not, because we're throwing out all laws because he's already going 90 on my tail, which is just as dangerous as, like, be careful. You're going from the left lane to the middle, everyone.
- [52:04]
Dan Patrick
God, how's he going 90 if you're going 75?
- [52:06]
Todd
I. I've never heard of such a.
- [52:09]
Dan Patrick
I've never heard of such saying.
- [52:10]
Todd
I want to see the stats. People that have gone from the left lane to the middle lane, and all.
- [52:14]
Dan Patrick
These people explain that to me. He's going 90, and you're going 75.
- [52:19]
Todd
Feels like he's going through my car. That's how. That's how I'm experiencing. He must be going faster than me because he's in my back seat.
- [52:23]
Dan Patrick
Yes, Marvin.
- [52:26]
Todd
Easily the most stubborn Dan.
- [52:27]
Caller
Ed.
- [52:28]
Todd
This isn't even close. This is ridiculous. Fritzi. It's the passing lane. Where is this person going? And unless they can specifically explain it to me somehow while they're in their car behind me and on the highway, which they don't really have time to do.
- [52:44]
Dan Patrick
Sunday night, Micah Parsons heads back to Dallas, and it'll be the packers and the Cowboys. A rivalry renewed Sunday, 7 Eastern on NBC. And Peacock. Final hour on the way. More phone calls, more driving tips, and Dan Hurley has a memoir. The Connecticut basketball coach will join us as well. One more hour to go with Fritzi Seaton. Marv, Paulie, yours truly, the Dan Patrick show.
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Paulie
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Dan Patrick
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Paulie
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- [54:03]
Dan Patrick
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- [55:08]
Todd
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- [55:39]
Paulie
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Dan Patrick
This is an I Heart podcast.