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Dan Patrick
We're breaking down SummerSlam, the biggest party of the summer on Wrestling With Freddie. From our bold picks to storyline breakdowns, we will discuss who walks out with gold, who shocks the night and which matches steal the show we call the winners, the upsets and the chaos to expect. Plus whatever swerves nobody saw coming. Listen to Wrestling with Freddie as part of the My Kultura Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club San Diego. Coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team. We need to embrace this community. Listen to San Diego FC behind the Flow on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Sarah Spain
Get fired up y'.
Justin Herbert
All.
Sarah Spain
Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people, an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapinoe to the show and we had a blast. Take a listen. Sue and I were like riding the lime bikes the other day and we're like whee. People ride bikes because it's fun. We got more incredible guests like Megan in store, plus news of the day. And so make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network.
Noah de Barrasso
Summer's here and with the kids home and off to camp, it's easy for moms to get lost in the shuffle. On Good Moms Bad Choices. We're making space to center ourselves with joy, rest and pleasure.
Dan Patrick
Take the kids to camp.
Noah de Barrasso
You know what, it was expensive, but I was also thinking, you have my kid. This is kind of priceless. Take her, feed her, make core memories. I don't have to do anything. Main thing, I don't have to do anything. To hear this and more. Listen to Good Mom's Bad Choices from Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
Dan Patrick
You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio Hour 2 on this Thursday. We'll check in with the Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert. The hall of Fame game tonight, it'll be the Chargers and the Lions. That'll be From Canton, Ohio, 8 Eastern on NBC and Peacock, which is where you'll find this show. Good morning. If you've downloaded the app, thank you for doing so. Stat of the Day is always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. I don't know why I'm fascinated with this stat, but I keep an eye on it. Four shutouts on Wednesday, the seasonal total. Major League Baseball 232 shutouts. Only one other year in baseball history has more shutouts before the month of August, and that was 2014. When they're 242. I don't know what the reason is other than maybe it's feast or famine. I throw it hard. You swing really hard. You either hit home runs or you get shut out. Also, Eugenio Suarez has 36 home runs. He was traded to Seattle, back to Seattle. He was with Arizona. The 36 home runs are the most of any player at the time they were traded during a baseball season. The Previous Mark was 34 and it was Mark McGuire. He went from the A's to the Cardinals in 1997. This is the start of the day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. So the baseball trade deadline later on today and probably a flurry of activities with the National League east, but a lot of middle relievers were exchanged, but one big hitter, Eugenio Suarez from Arizona to Seattle. Seattle's got a good lineup, sneaky lineup there. So the hall of Fame game coming up tonight and we'll talk to CC Sabathia. Philip Rivers will join us and Justin Herbert will join us. Coming up here in a little bit. Rob in Orange County. Hi, Rob. What's on your mind today?
Philip Rivers
Hey, Dan. And boys thank you for having me. You know, I just wanted to share a little Phillips river story. Two of them that are pg, but he used to live in Santa Luz with me, and there's two. We went to the same church, Church of the Nativity. And after he signed his second big contract, I walk outside and I see him changing one of his kids diapers in the back of his. I think it was an Escalade or something like that. And it's just what a humble man he is, you know, Great guy. And the second funny story is we used to play basketball at Santa Luz. You, as a basketball expert, Dan, would know you got to pass the ball to open up shots. Well, a friend of mine who's also famous, but I didn't. I'm not allowed to use his name right now, said, philip, aren't you? Don't you play in the NFL? And Phillips said, of course. You know that. And he said, well, then pass me the damn ball. He would slam dunkin all the time, and it was just funny. And Philip's a great guy, anyway.
Dan Patrick
All right, well, thank you, Rob. He's got 10 children. I think he's got a sprinter van. I think I asked him the last time about that. Can you get everybody into one vehicle? I think he got himself a sprinter, van. I think his youngest is six. Oldest is probably 18, but I think he's got 10.
Paulie
Yeah, Paulie, how many college quarterbacks come out of that group? Gotta be like three, right? Odds are genetics.
Dan Patrick
I don't know how good the arms are on his daughters, but, you know, I don't want to exclude them. Maybe they're playing flag football, but. Yeah, you should be able to get a couple of them out of that. Eric in Wisconsin. Hi, Eric. What's on your mind today?
Philip Rivers
Hey, DP. 6 foot 5, 235. Long time. First time I see you guys got our boys. Cece coming on the show later on. What do you think about our first place Milwaukee brewers this year? How do they keep doing it?
Dan Patrick
Give him credit. You know, it's not a fluke. It's. It's one of those where you look at middle of May to now. I mean, this is incredible baseball that they played. Yeah, really incredible. And you probably got a lot of players that most of the nation is not familiar with. And it feels like the one player that people are familiar with is your rookie pitcher, Mizorowski. And he hasn't been there that long, but long enough to make the All Star tick. All right, we'll get some more phone Calls coming up. It's kind of interesting when you get to preseason football because you're going to watch quarterbacks who probably aren't going to play in the regular season and maybe not even make the roster. Trey Lance is going to play tonight. He's going to play for the Chargers, I believe. DJ Uyungala Lee, who bounced around, he is going to be the backup quarterback. He was at, what, Clemson, Florida State and then Washington State. Does that sound right? Oregon State? Yeah. Dewey. Do I always call him Dewey? Ungala Lay instead of Djangalay, but he is a backup quarterback there. Hendon Hooker is going to be playing as well. He was. I. I really liked him at Tennessee, and he's the Lions backup quarterback. That's kind of fun. I'm still curious about Trey Lance. I just don't know how two bright minds with The San Francisco 49ers are going to say we're all in on Trey Lance. And then Trey Lance can't play football. Now, granted, he only played like 12 games in his college career, but he bounced around now as a backup quarterback with the Chargers. Got a lot of talent. But I like what's missing here. What is missing? Because if you're watching somebody on film now, granted, you know, you can say he was playing at North Dakota State. He had a perfect season. Like, they won the title. I don't. I don't think he threw an interception so that you're just looking at him and go, okay. And he had mobility. He had. All right, had everything ready to go. Niners, like, that's our guy. We're going all in John lynch, we're going all in Kyle Shanahan. And they whiffed on him. And then other teams, Dallas had him. And now can he play in the NFL?
Paulie
Yeah, Paulie, I just double checked it. Trey Lance has just turned 25. Yeah, it's not over. He was the youngest player in the league his first year.
Philip Rivers
He.
Paulie
Between San Francisco and Dallas. He's made five career starts. His numbers are mediocre, but he's not 28.
Dan Patrick
But he wasn't better than Cooper Rush. And this is the guy that the Niners went all in. Top five pick, and then he can't play. And I don't know what the knock was on him other than there wasn't enough sample size, like, you know, 12 games or so. But you're going to base it off of that. But I could. He doesn't even come. His name doesn't come up in conversation of, hey, we should trade for that guy, is he better than Anthony Richardson? Like, I. I'm just throwing this out. Anthony Richardson's, you know, got a lot of promise and he's what, 20 or 21 years of age. But Trey Lance was supposed to be the guy. Yeah, Paul, I think if you go.
Paulie
Back to it, it was 20, 20 or Trey Lance had 30 touchdowns. One pick led them to the title.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Paulie
But he was basically flawless. Led them to the title. That was right after the Carson Wentz to the pros. And Carson was great. And people were like, oh, this is the next Carson Wentz. People fell in love with him. Then he had the next year with COVID where I think they played one game. It was almost like an exhibition. So the sample size on him was one season in 2019.
Dan Patrick
But I thought there was somebody in between.
Paulie
Yeah, but I think there was a. There was a run on those one double A quarterbacks.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but Easton Stick was with the Chargers.
Paulie
Yeah, he was a backup.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but I, I mean, when you talk about a bust, his name's up there. You can put him there with Ryan Leaf. But, you know, here's the thing. We blame the player. He didn't draft himself. When we have a bust, we should put the person who drafted him up there. At least put the GM up there with the player. Did Bobby Beathard draft Ryan Leaf with the Chargers or did they have a different gm? Oh, no, they had a. Who was the GM at the.
Paulie
Alex Smith or. AJ Smith was the president of the.
Dan Patrick
Is that okay? But they. They should have. There should be blame to go around a little bit there, you know, jamarcus Russell with the Raiders who drafted him. Yes, Todd.
Justin Herbert
Unless there's some type of arrogance where the person's like, you're going to all pay the price that you didn't pick me sooner, then there could be some blame for the player. If they're pushing how wonderful they are.
Dan Patrick
And they turn out not to be. Bobby Beathard's a Hall of Famer. The late Bobby Beathard he drafted. He was brilliant at drafting, but he drafted Ryan Leaf. But you don't. That doesn't. Go against his resume. But you know, when you have bust at quarterback, and usually that's the only position we look at at a bust. Just because you're. You're going to spend that kind of a, you know, draft capital or that, that high of a draft pick on a quarterback and you know the value that we attach to that position. Yes, Marvin. Even guys like Achilles Smith from the Bengals and then who's my man? Zach Wilson just recently. And it's a combination of not playing well and a bad organization. But you're looking at guys who didn't play that much. Zach Wilson didn't play that much. It goes back to what my source tells me when he's analyzing these players. How many. How many games can I look at? Because I want to see everything that happens. I want to see when you have the five touchdown day. I want to see when you have the five interception day. I want to see everything. But if I'm only seeing the good, because the NFL is not just the good, it's the bad and the ugly. And that's what you want to see because you want to see the maturity of a quarterback. You want to see, all right, are you leading people? What are you doing? How are you doing it? Is it sustainable? You know, are you somebody who complains? Are you moping? Do your teammates help you up after a sack? Like, there's so much that factors into this, and there. There's so many things, the subtleties of being a great teammate, and I think that's where you're trying to figure all of this out. But how do you whiff on Trey Lance? How do you go all in and so all in that you go up and get him? Mitchell Trubisky was. It was a serviceable quarterback. I mean, he. He had one good year of football, and that's where, you know, we. We talk about Arch Manning as if he's going to be in Canton. I have no idea. Now, does he have a head start? Yes. Is he far more athletic than any of his uncles? Yes. But I don't know how great he is. Like, how low is the floor and how high is the ceiling? I have no idea. And I don't think anybody can tell you that. Steve Sarkeesian, who played the position, his head coach at Texas, I understand he should be able to assess the talent there, but there's so much that goes into this. How are you at the line of scrimmage? How are you after you've been knocked down, thrown a pick six? How are you as a leader? Like, I have no idea. Now, do I think that he's been given, you know, the answers to the test by Peyton and Eli? Yes, but you still got to go out there and do it. And I don't have enough of a sample size. Now, I've seen glimpses where I go, okay, all right, I like that he's athletic, but, man, we're. We've already penciled him in for the number One pick, next draft and then if not that draft, the next draft. And I am not so sure. Not yet. Yeah, Paulie.
Paulie
It does feel though with the NFL, the best thing you could do is have that one monster year and jump to the draft. Zach Wilson, byu, two years, he was part time starter. Then his junior year he led the Nation in everything. 3,700 yards, 33 touchdowns, three picks. He never outstayed his welcome. But then you look at a guy like Bo Nix. Bo Nix, I think had similar stats his last year, but it's like, oh, he was around a long time. What happened at Auburn, we can't take him in the top three, but Bo Nicks played like 60 college football games.
Dan Patrick
Deli in Chicago. Hi Deli.
Philip Rivers
Hey. I was gonna bring up the point of hey there. I was gonna bring up the point of the comparison with Mitchell Trubisky and you just did it.
Dan Patrick
All right, well, thanks for the phone call. Yeah, I can't take a one and doner. I just, I would be nervous about that. I want 25 starts, 30 if I can get that. Let me take a break. We'll get more phone calls coming up. 877-3DP show. Say good morning if you're watching on Peacock. We say good morning to our radio affiliates around the country. Justin Herbert will be playing as much as we will be playing tonight in the hall of Fame game. The Chargers quarterback will be on the sidelines. We'll talk to him coming up next. Here. Dan Patrick Show Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show. Weekdays at 9:00am Eastern, 6:00am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, the iHeartRadio app. Hey, we're Kavino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day 5 to 7pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to. And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show. We never get to everything honestly because this guy is over promising things we never have time for. Yeah, you blubber lips, blaming me. Well, you know what it's called? Over Promise. You should be good at it cause you've been overpromising women for years. Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're gonna be talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time, it will continue on our after show called Over Promised. Well, if you don't get enough Covino and Rich, make sure you check out Over Promised and also uncensored by the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's gonna be the best after show podcast of all time. There you go. Over Promising. And remember you could see it on YouTube, but definitely. Join us Listen to Over Promised with Covino and rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness, the way it has echoed and reverberated throughout your life, impacting your very legacy. Hi, I'm Dani Shapiro and these are just a few of the profound and powerful stories I'll be mining on our 12th season of Family Secrets. With over 37 million downloads, we continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. I can't wait to share 10 powerful new episodes with you. Stories of tangled up identities, concealed truths, and the way in which family secrets almost always need to be told. I hope you'll join me and my extraordinary guests for this new season of Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
Dan Patrick
Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved. San Diego Coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team. We need veteran players and we need young players. Like, you're building a team from scratch. And so the succession plan of long term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community. When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile. Pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life. Listen to San Diego FC behind the Flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Sarah Spain
Get fired up, y'.
Dan Patrick
All.
Sarah Spain
Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people and an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapinoe, to the show, and we had a blast. We talked about her recent 40th birthday celebrations, Co hosting a podcast with her fiance, sue, bird watching former teammates retire, and more. Never a dull moment with Pino. Take a listen. What do you miss the most about being a pro athlete? The final. The final. And the locker room. I really, really like you. Just, you can't replicate. You can't get back. Showing up to the locker room every morning just to s talk. We've got more incredible guests like the legendary Candace Parker and college superstar Az Foot. I mean, seriously, y', all, the guest list is absolutely stacked for season two. And you know, we're always going to keep you up to speed on all the news and happenings around the women's sports world as well. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Dan Patrick
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Noah de Barrasso
I'm Noah. I'm 13, and as you might have seen from the news, I got a podcast and I explain those fake headlines like your uncle would, like your cousin would, if he actually did the research. Honestly, adults don't ask the right questions. Now, you know what? Noah de Barrasso is a show about influence. Who's got it, how they use it, and what it means for the rest of you, it's not the news. It's what the news should be if someone Gen Z or Gen Alpha made it. When I'm watching everything.
Philip Rivers
Sheesh.
Noah de Barrasso
Majority of the youth 18 through 24 say they trust Republicans more than Democrats to fund the economy.
Dan Patrick
You kidding me?
Noah de Barrasso
Politics is wild, and I'm definitely not here to tame it. But I'm here to make sense of it. Just what's happening, why it matters, and what it means for us. Bring your brain. Listen to now, you know, with Noah de Barrasta on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Dan Patrick
More phone calls coming up hour from now. Philip Rivers, former Chargers quarterback. The current Chargers quarterback, Justin Herbert, in his sixth seat. You're in your sixth year. Wow.
Justin Herbert
Going by fast.
Dan Patrick
Wow. Take me back to your junior year. You had really good numbers at Oregon. How close were you to coming out after your junior year?
Justin Herbert
Yeah, really not that close. You know, just the way the season ended. I wanted to come back and, and make sure that we ended on the right foot, and I, I still feel like I had so much to improve and get better at. And, you know, I think that was something that we accomplished my senior year.
Dan Patrick
And then, what, 13 or 14 more games. And scouts like to have around 25 to 30 starts to be able to assess, so I think you had close to 40, 45 starts in your career. Does that sound about right?
Justin Herbert
Yeah, that sounds about right. I missed six games my sophomore year with a broken clavicle, so I feel like that was, you know, good film to put back on, on tape.
Dan Patrick
How's the relationship with Coach Harbaugh?
Justin Herbert
It's awesome. You know, he's an, he's an incredible coach. Everyone loves to play for him. We just want to make him proud. And, you know, he's a competitor, and I think that's the best thing about him is he just wants to win. However, you know, we go about it, that's his main focus.
Dan Patrick
He's a little goofy, though, at times, right? Yeah.
Justin Herbert
And I think that's a good thing. You know, I, I, I think, you know, to have a personality as a coach is, is, is great. He walks into team meeting rooms and, you know, it's, it's not always just football. It's, you know, it's, it's more than that, and I think the guys respect that. They appreciate that, and it makes it easier to, you know, relate to him.
Dan Patrick
How would you assess his throwing motion, his arm?
Justin Herbert
I actually haven't seen him throw a lot recently. I think he's been catching more passes, and, you know, I think his arms have kind of taken a toll and, but you can still throw if he needs to.
Dan Patrick
Okay, you're being polite here. You're, you're choosing your words carefully there.
Justin Herbert
I respect that, man.
Dan Patrick
Does he go into the weight room with you guys?
Justin Herbert
Yeah, he's in there all the time. He's lifting, he's. He's getting in the cold tubs. He does everything a player does. It's awesome.
Dan Patrick
Wait, he gets in the cold tub with you?
Justin Herbert
He does. Well, not, not like with me specifically, but.
Dan Patrick
Oh, there's only room for one in the cold tub.
Justin Herbert
No, it could fit, you know, 15, 15 guys. So after practice he's in there recovering and doing everything he can to, you know, maximize his recovery.
Dan Patrick
But his brother said that Jim gets in the, the ice tub in his khakis. Is that right?
Justin Herbert
He has before?
Dan Patrick
Yes.
Justin Herbert
I think it's maybe a, you know, a time constraint if, if he's low on time.
Dan Patrick
Oh, okay.
Justin Herbert
Just, he'll just maximize the recovery.
Dan Patrick
Okay. So you're not playing tonight. Are you going to have an earpiece in headset on?
Justin Herbert
I think so. I think that'd be the plan. Just to be able to hear the play and, you know, talk about whatever, whatever I need to.
Dan Patrick
Any input?
Justin Herbert
No, probably not. I think more so, you know, when we're playing a game, Greg Roman and I will meet and we'll talk about, you know, the plays that I do like, what I, what I don't like. And I think that's a meeting that happens with the quarterbacks the day before, a couple days before, just to talk.
Dan Patrick
Through it, help me understand the offensive philosophy. Because statistically they weren't great numbers, big numbers, but your quarterback rating was, I think, your highest. And Jim loves to run the football. So what. How would you describe the offense, the. That the Chargers will have this year?
Justin Herbert
Yeah, I think for us to be successful, we have to be able to do everything. You know, I think it starts with our run game, you know, the offensive line that we've put together and being able to run the ball behind those guys. But then at the same time, you know, that's what's going to open up our play action game. And I think we had a really good play action game last year, but something continue we can continue to improve on. And then when we're running the ball well, I think we're going to pass the ball well too. And you know, being able to scramble, extend plays on my feet, you know, I think that's something I wasn't really able to do much of last year, but it's still a huge part of my game and something that we need to do this year.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, we were talking about this yesterday that I go back to. I think the Rose bowl where you had your legs were on display, you had, you know, great performance there that you're around the same size as Josh Allen, aren't you?
Justin Herbert
Yeah, I think. I think I might be a little lighter. He's probably a little bit stronger.
Dan Patrick
But can you run like he runs? Would. Would Coach Harbaugh let you have that kind of weapon?
Justin Herbert
Yeah, I think one of the things that I really respect about his game is, is how many times they run quarterback power and, you know, he's running between the tackles and he's able to take those hits and, you know, deliver a few of them and you see how many touchdowns he scores in the red zone. And just the way he affects the game, too. I think that's something that we really expect. And if we can emulate that and kind of work that into my game, I think that'd be really helpful for us.
Dan Patrick
He's Justin Herbert, Chargers quarterback, sixth season, sixth overall pick in the 2020 draft by the Chargers. He was the offensive rookie of the year, made the Pro bowl in 2021. Give me the quarterback or quarterbacks. Like, do you sample from quarterbacks and say, maybe I could use that. I could put that into, you know, my repertoire?
Justin Herbert
Yeah, for sure. You know, especially coming out of college, that was one of those things where you watch a lot of film on the, on the NFL guys. And at the time we were watching Tom Brady, just how, you know, he did everything footwork wise was, you know, the best. We watched a lot of Matt Ryan with his, you know, play action fakes. You know, I think that was something that we always talked about, how quickly he snapped his head around, was able to get his eyes downfield, and then Drew Brees, his footwork too. And just the way he went through his progressions and played the quarterback position, I think those three guys were, you know, really important for me watching.
Dan Patrick
Okay, explain footwork with Tom Brady. What exactly is that and is it teachable?
Justin Herbert
Yeah, I think, you know, the easiest way to describe it would be just to time everything up with the route. You know, a short route is going to have quicker footwork. You know, a longer route play action is, is going to time it up. And one of the things that I always try to avoid is, is standing still in the pocket and just, you know, bouncing around because you have a tough time seeing when you're, you know, you're going up and down and, you know, as long as you're in rhythm and the, your, your feet are aligned with how deep the receiver is going to get, you know, I think it makes it easier on the throw and definitely easier, you know, stepping up in the pocket. As well.
Dan Patrick
Okay, but what's that clock like in your head when you go back to pass? At what point do you go, oh, like, I. Now I got to start. I gotta have my head on a swivel.
Justin Herbert
Yeah. As soon as you get to the top of your drop, where you're. Where you're dropping back, and, you know, it's either a quick setup where you're hoping that the ends go around you and the tackles push them up field, or you're finding a lane to run through, but it's. It's quick, and, you know, that's just how. How fast those guys are on defense. And you gotta protect the ball, you gotta avoid sacks, and, you know, that's something that, you know, Coach Harbaugh talks about all the time, so we're gonna get better at that this year.
Dan Patrick
What was your welcome to the NFL hit?
Justin Herbert
I would say I was rolling out one year, tried to make this. This play where I could spin in the pocket and just kind of run around, and then I got hit by Max Frosty, and I didn't even see him. And that was when I was like, yeah, these. These guys are much faster than I am. I. I gotta be able to step up, throw it away. Taking a sag is not the worst thing, but, you know, running into that thing, that was.
Dan Patrick
Well, and, you know, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, two of the greatest ever, had no problem just kind of going into the fetal position instead of, you know, you left to live to. To call another play. And that's hard for you because in college and high school, you could get away with this stuff. In the NFL, you can't. How tough is that to go? Just take a sack or just throw it away?
Justin Herbert
Yeah, that's. That's the tough part, because like you said, high school and college, you'd be able to make some of those plays and, you know, you'd get reward for. For making a crazy play like that. And then you come to NFL and, you know, everyone on defense is. Is faster than you. And, you know, sometimes it's okay to, you know, wave the white flag, go down and live for another play where, you know, a sack is. Is not as bad as a fumble, and a throwaway is not as bad. So it's just kind of living through that list and making sure that you're. You're protecting the ball and putting the team in a good position to win.
Dan Patrick
Who's your rival?
Justin Herbert
Shoot. I would say we've. We've got a lot of rivals. I. I definitely would say the Chiefs, Raiders and the Broncos. I think the AFC west is. Is, you know, we've. We've definitely, you know, had our fair share of competitions with those guys. Chiefs have gotten us the past few years.
Dan Patrick
But do you hate the Chiefs? Like, do you. Do you hate one of them a little more than the other ones?
Justin Herbert
I would just say that the. It's been a little lopsided the past couple of years, and that's just something that we, you know, we've got a great opportunity to play them twice this year, and, you know, we know how good they are and how much success they've had in the league over the past several years. So it's always a good opportunity for us to go play and be the team that we want to be.
Dan Patrick
What advice would you give a rookie quarterback? Let's say Cam Ward calls you up and said, give me some advice on what it's like.
Justin Herbert
Yeah, I would say to sacrifice now so you can enjoy everything later. Just to. To go through everything and, you know, watch an extra hour of film, you know, do an extra hour of recovery. Make sure you're taking care of your body. And, you know, there's always going to be times to, you know, go hang out with your friends and do all these extracurricular activities. But right now, you're a quarterback. You know, a team, has a franchise, has put their trust in you to. To lead this entire organization and to make sure that you're doing everything you can for your teammates, the coaching staff, the community, because it's really important. And at the end of the day, if you're doing that, you're. You're in good steps.
Dan Patrick
Wait, did you give me an organ organization? Did you give me a Canadian organization?
Justin Herbert
Organization?
Dan Patrick
Yeah, it sounded like, you know, maybe. Maybe that's Canadian. You, you know, proximity there. But your organization. You gave me an organization, which is what they do in Canada, so don't want you to think too long and hard about that. Maybe if. You know any Canadian roots in your family.
Justin Herbert
I don't. I don't think so, now that I'm aware.
Dan Patrick
Okay. I just want to make sure you gave me a little organization. Hey, it's great to see you again. And we'll be. We'll. Well, you're not going to be doing anything tonight, so I was going to say we'll be watching, but you're going to be watching, too.
Justin Herbert
I'm going to be supporting the team. I'm going to be out there, you know, offering how. Whatever I can.
Dan Patrick
So. Thanks for joining us.
Justin Herbert
Yeah, you Bet. Thank you.
Dan Patrick
That's Justin Herbert last year, Regular season stats 23 and 3. 23 touchdowns, three interceptions, 3,800 yards. Like those are all really good numbers. But then you know that coach Harbaugh loves run the football. But that can make, as you know, Justin says, hey, play action. Now all of a sudden they buy into play action. I always thought it was funny when you'd see these teams that couldn't run the football, but they'd run play action. And I'd be like, if I'm a defensive player, I'm going to expect you to pass all the time. Because if you want to run the ball, give it to your running back. We'll be fine with that. We can adjust. But I always thought Boomer size and might have been the best play action quarterback that I ever saw. With his ability to look like he was handing the ball off. I thought sleight of hand Siason was magical. He was great. And what they'll do, you know, you want to have people watch. It's like pitchers will do this. They'll be like, watch me watch film. Tell me what you see. What am I doing? What can you tell that it's going to be that pitch. You want somebody to look at you and give you honest opinions on that. And it's the same thing with the quarterback. Look at this from a defensive backs perspective. Are you buying this with my play action? And then he's talking about footwork that I'm looking at Drew Brees footwork, I'm looking at Tom Brady's footwork. And what he's talking about is you get in the rhythm, you know, because everything's timed, you know, fractional seconds here. It's, it's, it's so, so quick. And to be able to have rhythm. It's going to be a seven yard out. It's going to be something 15 over the middle. It's going to be a deeper path. So everything's got to be in rhythm. And I think that's what Tom did so well because it looked like Tom, all he did is just stand back there. But while he did all the other little things that he did. And quarterbacking is, is about stuff that you do that's on the periphery, like the subtleties of what you do and being able to do it and do it in a way that's convincing, knowing where somebody is. The eyes, you know, these defensive back talk about quarterbacks eyes all the time and you know, sort of that game within the game of. All right, I'm going to lead you over here. Lead you over here. No, I'm throwing over here. Well, the defensive back is doing the same thing. He's. Oh, I'm going to act like I'm going over here. I know you're going over here. I'm fascinated with the game within the game.
Paulie
Yeah, Paulie, I saw a piece just the other day about this with Joe Burrow and they said Joe Burrow is not a scrambler nor a runner. He's just a motion pocket guy. That's the phrase they use. Like he moves in the pocket without leaving the pocket, but he always has his eyes downfield. He never turns his head to look at what's around him and that keeps the play alive. But they were focused on how his head stays downfield while his feet are just shuffling.
Dan Patrick
Couple of phone calls in here. Chris in Vegas. Hi, Chris. What's on your mind today?
Philip Rivers
How's it going, DP?
Dan Patrick
Hey, man.
Philip Rivers
170. I just wanted to go back to the whole quarterback situation as far as like not having enough starts and being younger guys. I think a lot of these guys that are coming in should. It's almost like it's mandatory. They should sit. You know, you got guys that go to bad situations and then they get labeled bus. You know, I eat Johnny Manziel or even Baker Mayfield, and then Baker goes to Tampa Bay and he's super successful now. So, like, I just feel like these guys need a more. A little bit more time, you know, let them sit, let them get there. And Rogers treatment or some of these other guys that have sat and have learned and didn't become successful. I think that it just goes back to that. Like they're not getting enough knowledge of the game before they get thrown into the fire.
Dan Patrick
Well, let's take Johnny Manziel out of that because Johnny wasn't mature. You know, Johnny wanted to play by the seat of his pants like he did in college, and you can't do that in the pros. Baker, I thought, and he played well a couple seasons in Cleveland. I just think it started to go south when they got Odell Beckham and he wanted to placate OBJ and went out of his way to try to find him. And Jarvis Landry, to me, was a better wide receiver with the Cleveland Browns. But, you know, it happens. If you're a young quarterback and you got a guy who's six or seven year veteran wide receiver, tight end or running back, and we're like, hey, I'm open, man. And I think that's hard, too, because you're in. You're in the huddle, and these guys will talk to you, they'll come back and say something to you. How would you act, react to that? But they've played so much. Cam ward probably has 50 starts is college career. Jaden Daniels had over 50, like 60. Dylan Gabriel, 60. I mean, that's an incredible amount of football that you've played. And. And so I have a better sense of who you are, what kind of player you are. You know, you're playing 12 or 14. You know, that's just tough. And even Justin Herbert, I thought Justin Herbert was going to be more like Josh Allen. I thought that. Because if you go back to that Rose Bowl, I think he had a couple of long touchdown runs or at least one long touchdown run. And I thought, you know, get him out, let him use his legs now. Don't invite contact like Josh Allen does. But I would. I would have him out there and just give you something else to think about. Bud in South Carolina. Hi, Bud. What's on your mind today?
Philip Rivers
How you doing, guys?
Dan Patrick
Good.
Philip Rivers
People talking about the quarterback situations, everything like that, about Shador Sanders and everything, but no one realized that Charlie Ward went to Florida State, won the Heisman Trophy and didn't even get selected in the NFL.
Dan Patrick
Well, they thought that he was going to play basketball. And we've had Charlie on the show, and I think Charlie could have been a good NFL quarterback. But it's. It's a different era now. Now we want the quarterback who will get out on the edge, the guy who can be a runner, not just a thrower. You know, let's go back to Lamar Jackson. I kept. I watched him, and I go, that guy's great. The guy's great. And then it'd be, yeah, but his throwing motion. And I always look at this and go, you still have to deal with him. He may not be the prototypical Dan Marino. Matthew Stafford, stand in the pocket. You're six. He's not. But he's something different. It's the ability of offensive coordinators to have an imagination to, to. To not be locked in on this is how you play football. And that's what's changed dramatically. You know, football used to be boring. It was run, run, third down, five yards, first down, run, run, throw the ball, punt. Then it started to, you know, get a little. The AFL opened the eyes of the NFL because it was wide open. Then you bring along Dan Marino with what he did. It was just different. 5 wide, don't need A running back. And that changed football as well. You know what, what the greatest show on turf. Did you know that? So there have been some innovators, but then you still have kind of the old school that says, no, this is how my quarterback is supposed to play. It's changing. Charlie Ward was a great athlete and he was 6 3. But he did have a good NBA career. He probably, you know, had a better career in the NBA than he would had the NFL. Probably made some pretty good money. I think he's now a high school coach.
Paulie
Yeah, Paulie, I went back to that 93 NFL draft when Charlie Ward did not get picked. And it's all tall guys. Trent Green, Elvis Gerbach, Alex Van Pelt, Mark Brunel, Rick Meyer, Drew bledsoe, all classic 64 drop back quarterbacks. You can maybe make the case that Michael Vick broke the mold. Was that 2001 where he was so electric that he pushed his way to the number one pick where he's run first past second.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. But then you had people say, well, he's not a great passer, a great pocket passer. And I always go, but look at what he, what else he does. He's putting so much pressure on a defense. I mean when he was at Virginia Tech, it was amazing. He was amazing. Yeah. Marvin, that was freshman Michael Vick also. Yeah, good point, good point. But I, I, I, unless I'm wrong on that with Charlie, I think that he was going to play in the NBA. Did he get, was he a third round pick or so in the NBA? I'm trying to remember. Feels like he was a late first round pick. Oh, he was a late first round pick in the NBA.
Paulie
Correct.
Dan Patrick
Right. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I, he was wonderful college quarterback. All right, let me take a break. Got more phone calls. Philip Rivers and CC Sabathia coming up in the final hour of the program. We're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.
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Sarah Spain
Get fired up y'.
Dan Patrick
All.
Sarah Spain
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Philip Rivers
Sheesh.
Noah de Barrasso
Majority of the youth 18 through 24 say they trust Republicans more than Democrats to fund the economy.
Dan Patrick
You kidding me?
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Justin Herbert
And then it's almost a.
Dan Patrick
An even tie between football and meat. Wow. Find that interesting. Okay, that's.
Justin Herbert
Each one of Those has about 10% of the vote.
Dan Patrick
Fritz, he stood up so Dylan could sit down. Dill, part of the gambling podcast. The latest episode later today with Bad Larry and Shayan Irving. So, Dylan, Dill, what do you have for preseason football action tonight? All right, Dan. Well, it's sort of like the degenerate new Year today. Yeah, everything's fresh. We've got a good one. I'm going with the Lions minus one and a half against the Chargers for one specific reason. D.J. you looks like he's going to play in the second half. And he is squarely on my list of unbetables from college. Okay, so he's going to be leading the Chargers in the second half. That according to the Internet. Okay. He's always reliable. Always reliable. All right. And I'm going to take The Chargers over 125 team rushing yards between him and Trey Lance. They may get that on their own. Okay. All right. Sprinkle, Omari and Hampton, too. Okay. Any. Anything else that we should be aware of? Race to 20 points. Dan? Neither. Plus 135. Finals 19 16. No, the over under is 32. Yeah, I'm thinking maybe like a 1614 would be. I'm gonna go 17 14. I'm gonna go under. And once again, entertainment purposes only. Only. Yeah, because I used to bet on preseason football and that was sad. It's a sad state of it. But back then you had players who did play in the preseason. At least you had a reasonable facsimile of the lineup that you would have during the regular season. Thank you, Dylan. That's Dylan from Dan Patrick takes Gamble podcast available@danpatrick.com.
Paulie
Yeah, Paul, I have a follow up for Dylan as an expert gambler.
Dan Patrick
Well, no, he's not an expert.
Paulie
A seasoned gambler.
Dan Patrick
Yes.
Paulie
Okay.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, technically professional.
Paulie
I know you guys miss gamblers, miss football, so you bet on preseason. But isn't preseason football the least predictable of all sports?
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I mean, it's really stupid to bet on. You have no idea who's playing. It doesn't really matter at all. There's nothing on the line. But I think any gambler will just say it is something to bet on. I bet on spring training. Yeah, it's still baseball. Yeah, I bet on that. I mean, if you want to bet, you can pretty much place a bet on just about Any kind of sporting event, as Dylan has proved. Oh, yeah, yeah. Cricket, sign me up. Oh, I know. Thank you, Dylan. Thank you. More from Dylan that'll be later on today@danpatrick.com Dan Patrick takes a gamble. Jack in Tulsa. Good morning, Jack. What's on your mind today?
Philip Rivers
Good morning. Long time listener. 5, 10, 180. I love you. Loved you since ESPN days. Yeah. I got two quick things. Yesterday you were talking about Brad Pitt was Fight Club when you knew he could act. He had already been nominated for best actor Oscar for 12 Monkeys, which was a bizarre surprise ending. Kind of M. Night Shyamalan movie. Really crazy movie. The ending was kind of a surprise. The other thing is we're gonna hate when you leave. You're like family. Why don't you keep it going? Call the new show Dan Patrick's Dan X with the rotating host every week or guest host every week. Week. We don't want to see you go.
Dan Patrick
Well, thank you, Jack. No, I made up my mind. Super bowl in Atlanta. My career started in Atlanta at cnn and seems like a fitting place to say goodbye after that. I don't know, you know, is there something down the road where it's a once a week podcast or. I don't know. I just, I made a decision and I'm comfortable with that decision. And I didn't see The Brad Pitt 12 Monkeys. I, I did not see that. But Fight Club, that's great. Brad Pitt was great in that movie. But in fairness, you know, getting nominated for an Academy Award, I did not see that. I didn't see the, the vampire movie with Tom Cruise. What was that in set New Orleans?
Paulie
Interview with a Vampire.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I didn't, I didn't see that one either. I don't, I don't know if he was good in that movie or not, but yeah, there, there's usually a movie where you go, that's when that guy became. Or she became something more than just that. All right, coming up, final hour, gonna be busy. CC Sabathia, fresh off the hall of fame. And we'll talk to Philip Rivers, Fritz's favorite quarterback. Are you going to say anything to him that you have called him a whiner? I don't think so. If it comes up in conversation, I have to stick to my guns. But I'm not looking to start something. You won't answ the phone and say, hey, no whining. No, I'm gonna hang under the table and duck for cover instead. No, you should answer the phone when he calls. But I won't bring up the whining thing. She knows, he whines. Final hour on the way, we're breaking down SummerSlam, the biggest party of the summer on Wrestling With Freddy. From our bold picks to storyline breakdowns, we will discuss who walks out with gold, who shocks the night and which matches steal the show we call the winners, the upsets and the chaos to expect. Plus whatever swerves nobody saw coming. Listen to Wrestling with Freddie as part of the Michael Tura Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because the this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team. We need to embrace this community. Listen to San Diego FC behind the Flow on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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All.
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Episode Summary: The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 2: "Trey Lance on the Stage Again, Justin Herbert"
Release Date: July 31, 2025
In this engaging episode of The Dan Patrick Show, host Dan Patrick delves deep into the world of NFL quarterbacks, focusing on the ongoing discussions surrounding Trey Lance and Justin Herbert. The episode features insightful conversations with former Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers and current Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert, alongside lively interactions with enthusiastic listeners. Here's a detailed breakdown of the key points, discussions, insights, and conclusions from the episode.
Dan Patrick kicks off the second hour by highlighting the excitement surrounding the upcoming Hall of Fame game between the Chargers and the Lions. He sets the stage for an in-depth discussion on quarterback performance and potential in the NFL.
Dan initiates the conversation by questioning the Chargers' commitment to Trey Lance, especially given his limited playtime in college and early NFL career.
Dan Patrick [03:12]: "How do you whiff on Trey Lance? How do you go all in and put him up, and then Trey Lance can't play football?"
He scrutinizes Lance's progress, comparing his college success at North Dakota State with his NFL performances, expressing skepticism about the Chargers' long-term strategy.
Transitioning to Justin Herbert, Dan commends his season statistics and discusses his relationship with Coach John Harbaugh.
Justin Herbert [24:14]: "Yeah, that sounds about right. I missed six games my sophomore year with a broken clavicle, so I feel like that was, you know, good film to put back on, on tape."
Herbert elaborates on his growth, emphasizing the importance of a versatile offense that balances running and passing, and highlights his admiration for veteran quarterbacks like Tom Brady and Drew Brees.
Rob shares personal anecdotes about Philip Rivers, highlighting Rivers' humility and leadership qualities.
Philip Rivers [05:33]: "We went to the same church, and after he signed his second big contract, I saw him changing his kid's diaper. It's just what a humble man he is."
Dan and Rob discuss Rivers' large family and his role as a father, adding a personal touch to the conversation.
Eric praises the Milwaukee Brewers and inquires about their continued success, prompting Dan to acknowledge their exceptional performance.
Dan Patrick [07:15]: "Give him credit. You know, it's not a fluke. It's one of those where you look at middle of May to now. I mean, this is incredible baseball that they played."
Bud reminisces about past quarterbacks and debates the merits of giving young QBs more time to develop within their organizations.
Bud [40:05]: "They need a little bit more time, you know, let them sit, let them get there."
Dan reflects on the challenges young quarterbacks face, emphasizing the importance of organizational support and ample playtime for development.
Dan engages Justin Herbert in a comprehensive discussion about his progression in the NFL, his relationship with Coach Harbaugh, and his approach to improving his game.
Justin Herbert [24:26]: "It's awesome. He's in there all the time. He's lifting, he's getting in the cold tubs. He does everything a player does."
Herbert discusses his commitment to enhancing his skills, particularly his footwork and decision-making under pressure, drawing inspiration from legendary quarterbacks.
The conversation shifts to the Chargers' offensive strategies, balancing the run game with play-action passes to create versatile offensive plays.
Justin Herbert [27:14]: "I think for us to be successful, we have to be able to do everything. ... When we're running the ball well, I think we're going to pass the ball well too."
He elaborates on the importance of rhythm in his footwork, timing with receivers, and the subtle game of reading defenses.
Justin Herbert [29:37]: "As long as you're in rhythm and your feet are aligned with how deep the receiver is going to get, it's going to be easier on the throw."
Herbert emphasizes his role as a leader, stressing the importance of teamwork, resilience, and maintaining a positive environment within the team.
Justin Herbert [32:25]: "We have a great opportunity to play them twice this year, and we know how good they are and how much success they've had."
He advocates for a balanced approach to both running and passing, incorporating physicality and strategic play-action to keep defenses guessing.
The episode features a comparative analysis of various quarterbacks, including mentions of Zach Wilson, Bo Nix, and historical figures like Joe Burrow and Michael Vick. Dan and his co-hosts debate the evolution of the quarterback role, the significance of athleticism versus traditional throwing prowess, and the impact of coaching on player performance.
Dan Patrick [37:21]: "You want somebody who will get out on the edge, the guy who can be a runner, not just a thrower."
They explore how modern offensive strategies require quarterbacks to be multifaceted, contributing both in the pocket and with their mobility.
Dan introduces a segment on betting strategies for preseason football, featuring insights from Dylan and Paulie.
Dan Patrick [49:59]: "All right, that's Dylan from Dan Patrick takes Gamble podcast available@danpatrick.com."
The hosts discuss the unpredictability of preseason games, the limited data on player performances, and the risks associated with betting on such matches.
As the episode wraps up, Dan hints at future discussions with CC Sabathia and further analysis of quarterback performances. He also reiterates promotions for upcoming episodes and other related podcasts within the iHeartRadio network.
Quarterback Development: The episode underscores the importance of giving young quarterbacks like Trey Lance adequate time and support to develop within their teams. It highlights the challenges they face in transitioning to the NFL and the critical role of coaching and organizational backing.
Justin Herbert’s Growth: Justin Herbert emerges as a central figure, showcasing his commitment to improving his game, his strategic approach to offense, and his leadership qualities. His insights into balancing running and passing play-action provide a nuanced understanding of modern NFL offenses.
Listener Engagement: Through diverse listener calls, the show emphasizes the community aspect of the podcast, addressing real-time concerns and anecdotes from fans, thereby enriching the overall discussion.
Strategic and Analytical Depth: The conversations delve into the intricacies of quarterback strategies, comparing historical and contemporary players, and analyzing the evolving dynamics of NFL offenses.
Preseason Betting Risks: The episode also touches upon the volatility and unpredictability of preseason football, cautioning listeners about the inherent risks in betting on such games due to limited player data and fluctuating team performances.
This episode of The Dan Patrick Show offers a comprehensive exploration of quarterback dynamics in the NFL, blending expert analysis with personal anecdotes and interactive listener engagement. Whether you're a seasoned football enthusiast or a casual fan, Dan Patrick's insightful discussions provide valuable perspectives on the current state and future of NFL quarterbacks.