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This is an iHeart podcast. What's up, everybody? It's snacks from the Trapped nerds. And all October long, we're bringing you the horror. Boogity, boogity, boogity. We're kicking off this month with some of my best horror games to keep you terrified. Then we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always die first. And it's the return of Tony's horror show Side Quests, written and narrated by yours truly. We'll also be doing a full episode reading with commentary, and we'll cap it off with a horror movie battle royale. Open your free Aha. Radio app and search Trap Nerds podcast and listen now. Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Oh, my. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get. Listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts. Wherever you get your podcast. I love that you created this system that revolves around you, creating pockets of peace. World Mental health day is around the corner. And on my podcast, just heal with Dr. J, I dive into what it really means to care for your mind, body and spirit. From breaking generational patterns to building emotional capacity, I'm going to walk away feeling like, yes, I'm going to continue my healing journey. Listen to just heal with Dr. J from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do we really need another podcast with a condescending finance bro trying to tell us how to spend our own money? No, thank you. Instead, check out Brown Ambition. Each week, I, your host, Mandy Money gives you real talk, real advice with a heavy dose of I feel useless. Like on Fridays when I take your questions for the baqa. Whether you're trying to invest for your future, navigate a toxic workplace, I got you. Listen to Brown ambition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dan. He's Ty. Hello. And we're the solid verbal college football podcast. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan. Join us all season long as we ride the roller coaster of this ridiculous sport. Listen to the solid verbal college football podcasts on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. We don't just love college football, Ty, we live it. You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio final hour on this Thursday. The great Al Michaels will join us coming up a little bit. He'll be on the call tonight on Amazon. It'll be the Niners and the Rams. The Niners getting 8 1/2 AFC east matchup. Josh Allen and the Bills against Drake May and the Patriots. That'll be in prime time on NBC. And Peacock coming up on Sunday. 877-3-DP-SHOP email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle At DP show we have playoff baseball at game seven. Feel in game three. It's winner go home, Guardians, Tigers, Padres, Cubs, Yankees and the Red Sox. Dodgers beating the Reds to advance to face the Philadelphia Phillies. And we stumbled onto this topic watching last night. You're seeing Mason Miller. He is throwing 11 pitches of at least 100 miles per hour. I think 11 of the 15 that he threw were at least 100 miles an hour. He topped out at 104.5. That's the fastest pitch thrown this season. That's the fastest pitch thrown in postseason since 2009. But he's been in two postseason appearances so far. He's faced nine batters. He struck out eight. He hit one batter. Sixteen of his 40 pitches are 100 miles per hour or greater. Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Here comes that. What Stat of the day brought to you by Panini American at the official trading cards of the program. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, that's our streaming partner. 25 years ago, the fastest pitch registered was 101. The average fastball I think was 89. Now it's up to 84 or 94. 25 years from now. Are we going to be up to the average fastball at 99 miles an hour? If we're looking at 25 year increments, is it going to go up to 99? Is the average speed like how fast can somebody throw a baseball? Can you, can you throw it 110 or more? Can somebody run 9 seconds, 9.2 seconds, 100 meter dash 958 is the record in 25 years from now, what's that time going to be? So I don't know how far we can push the limits on this. How far can you drive A golf ball, now, that's equipment. You have to factor that in as well. Plus a lot of these fairways. When you get to these golf courses, they want them to run, they want them to be hard, so you're going to get more rollout. They want you to be hitting the ball 350 yards. But at what point do you say that's as far as somebody can go? How fast can you run? How fast can you throw? How far can you hit a baseball? How far can you hit a golf ball? These are all the things that we're trying to push the envelope on. And I asked Paulie, I said, can you get a hold of somebody who's smart, smarter than us, who can help us understand. And I understand that they're taking care of themselves now. They know exactly how to get leverage, how to use your arm, how to use the torque in your body to do all of these things. But can you add. You know, I'm always amazed when a pitcher adds two miles an hour. That's a lot. Justin Herbert, according to Jim Harbaugh, said he averaged like two more miles per hour running. I'm going, okay, but what did these smart professors say? Paulie? We got a hold of professor from Yale. He's got a PhD professor of encoders on now. He's done studies on baseball before with. He's got a physics degree and a mechanical engineering degree. Really, really smart. Show off. Yeah, he said. I asked him, a generation from now, will they add another five miles an hour and another generation from now, five more? He said, likely, no. He said generating speed in a throw is a whole body thing. It's actually much more about your lower body than your upper body. He said that baseball players are like an elastic whip, and much of the power comes from the lower body, transmitted by the upper body. Like a whip, it comes from the wrist and what you're doing. He said the efficiency of improving your speed, it depends on technique. It's not that humans are getting faster, it's the technique around it. Like Seton was saying, it's much more about even diet, how they're used, maximizing the angle of how you throw. All the improvements in technology around pitching is helping pitching. It's not like the evolution of man is just happening at a faster rate. He said because of the mechanics of a body like a whip, there are limits. And the efficiency of power generation, there are limits. So while there will be improvements over the next 25, 50 years, big jumps like five miles an hour are very unlikely. Yeah, you know, today's athlete is in far greater shape. You know, majority of these athletes in far greater shape than the athletes of 25 years ago. You start with that. But the elasticity. When you look at Tiger, he had elasticity. He was turning, he was turning sometimes 10 to 15% more than the other golfers on tour. He was creating more. When you see a hitter, sometimes you'll get more torque in your swing. Pitchers able to get Pedro Martinez always had, it felt like more torque, and it, because he's a small guy, you know, you get guys who are 6, 4, as opposed to Pedro, who was 5, 10, 180. But that's the magic of sport, where you go, how is he doing it? Well, he knows his body puts it in the right position and then takes advantage of certain elements that other athletes don't have. And sometimes that's, you know, the deciding factor of that guy can throw it faster than him, that guy can run faster than him, that guy can hit a golf ball farther because the biggest guys aren't the guys that always hit, you know, the longest. I remember playing golf with Eddie George, and Eddie George is the after. I'm the before picture. And he couldn't out drive me, and it drove him crazy. And I said, eddie, it's not about how big you are. It's how you put yourself in a position to hit a golf ball. And the whole time we're playing with Cordell Stewart and he just couldn't. Cordell and I were laughing at Eddie because he would swing so hard. And I go, you're not going to out drive me, Eddie. I don't get it. I don't get it. I said, you don't know how to swing yet. Once you do, then you're going to hit it 100 yards past me. Yeah. Dylan. Well, it's like a lot of the power pitchers, particularly starters that throw really hard, are, tend to be like tall and lanky for the most part. And it's not like they're all yoked. It's just because I think they have more of that elasticity and mechanics thing, you know, longer lever, but just putting yourself in the right position and your angle, your arm angle and, and, you know, Paulie talking about the whip, you know, you, you want to have lag. Golfers have lag in their swing, and then all of a sudden they use, they use the ground and then they're coming up so they, it's all like this volcanic explosion when you see the Justin Thomas isn't a big guy, but he can hit the Ball. You know, he's probably in the, you know, 5% of long, long drivers here. DeChambeau is a big guy. Brooks Koepka is a big guy. Rahm's a big guy. Rory's in great shape. You still have to have that. I don't think you can, you know, look like Craig Stadler and go out there or Duffy Waldorf. Yeah, Paulie. Yeah. This Yale professor said the same thing. He said your arm is your arm. You can't really do anything to strengthen it, but you can strengthen your lower body. He suggested looking at a guy like Justin Verlander. He is built from the waist down. He also said that the medical technology is going to help pitchers pitch in the hundreds more often, like it already has. He said in the 80s, if you got Tommy John surgery, it was a death sentence for your career. Now it's a year off and you're probably going to come back. He said he could see a generation from now, preventative measures and medicine going into your ligaments in your elbow that make it so you never have to have Tommy John surgery and you won't have to worry about throwing 100 often. Yeah, I could see that happening. I mean, they're making strides in what they do with ligaments in your knee. And a lot of this is outside the United States. And I go back to this is decades ago when I had surgery and I had a doctor saying, hey, they're growing cartilage in a petri dish in Germany. Are you interested? I go, no, I just wanted to be able to walk. So that's 30 years ago. And the improvements in, you know, preventative medicine is the key. Women, women basketball, female basketball players more susceptible to blowing out their acl. To be able to have something that can prevent that or give you a better chance of avoiding that. Same with Tommy John used to be that you don't throw curveballs. Guys are blowing out their arms because they're throwing fastballs. And. And you. You have a pitch count. Every one of these guys is told, it feels like, go out. You got 15 pitches. Throw as hard as you can. For those 15 pitches, that's might be an inning, might be two, but that's it. Throw as hard as you can for as long as you can, then we bring you out, and then we bring in another guy. Yes. Do I have to request Permission to add PhD to my name, or can I just do it? You can do it. I can't, because it sounds like one year at West Virginia essentially equals being a PhD level professor at Yale. Okay. Sounds like that. That's the way I'm hearing it. Anyway, we can start calling you the doctor, the doc. Oh, yes. It's exactly what I want. Yes. Paulie, I think it's actually tougher for guys like you, me, Seton, to graduate from these schools because we went to schools where they partied. You go to Yale, you walk in smart, they're lightly partying, but you're there to really study, and people around you are studying. We had the challenge of being around people who weren't studying. I quite literally went there to party. That's exactly why I chose West Virginia. Yeah. I remember the first time I went to the University of Dayton. I walked. I was on campus, off campus, and I walked by, and I'm with my. One of my brothers, and somebody had a keg on their front porch. It was just a Tuesday. They had a. They had a keg on their front porch. And he walked up, grabbed a solo cup, and filled up. And then I. I said, you don't even know them. He goes, no, no, just go up and get a beer. Went and got a beer. And I go, all right, mom and Dad, I think I'm going to go to the University of Dayton. I think they have a really good curriculum, and I think I'm going to do really, really well there. All right, so Dylan's in for Fritzi Seaton, the doctor, Marvin, Paula, yours truly, Al Michaels will join us coming up. And the gambling podcast later today. Dylan is part of that. He's got the wounded animal parlay. Is it. Is it officially titled the Wounded Animal Parlay? That is Paul. Actually, the name originated with Paulie. Oh. And it kind of got me thinking. Okay. Because, you know, I like to zag with my bets. You know, I like to fade the public opinion. I. I suggest you Zig. You would probably do better, but you like to zag. So I am getting cooked on the NFL this year, but I'm not alone there, Dan. Okay. I think this might be my ticket out. Okay, here we go. This is the wounded animal Parlay. Yeah. The 49ers are very thin at receiver at the moment, but they do have sky Moore. Oh, third in the bullpen. Sky anytime. Touchdown. He's plus 1400. Former Chief Great. Yeah, I know. And they also have MVs on there, too. Another former Chief Great. Valdez Scantling Jr III. Yep. Okay. I'm going Skymore. Anytime, TD the Niners plus eight and a half. I know. I liked that pre wounded animal parlaying. Okay. And McCorkle Jones over 211 and a half passing yards. Mac Jones. Over 211 yards. Yep. Okay. I could see that happen. And then that pays out. Plus 3,232 to 1. All right, that's the. The wounded animal parlay. Yes, Paul. Yeah, the wounded animal parlay happens, Marvin, a lot in the NBA when, like, two starters are out for the Celtics and they're playing the Wizards. You're like, oh, the Wizards, they're going to lose by 30. And then all the backups, you know, like all the backups of the Wizards, they come in and they get their chance. Bunch of injured guys come in. Next thing you know, or Peyton Pritchard goes off. Come on. Now he's going to treat us like the Oregon Pro Am. I. I sent. I keep sending videos to Marvin, and it's 8 o' clock in the morning on a Saturday. It'll be Peyton Pritchard playing in a pickup game. I also sent a text to Marvin last night. I'm flipping around, you know, I. I can't stay watching something. I can't sit still. And all of a sudden, I stumbled into the basketball wives on VH1. And I said, marvin, what is going on with basketball wives now? Nobody's married. I don't think. I don't think any of them are wives except Doug Christie, Doug Christie's wife. And I'm watching, and there's a whole lot going on in basketball. Like what? Just like dialogue situations, what they say to each other. There's some cosmetic. Are they n. Not nice things that they're saying to each other? Are they nice things? Not supportive, constructive criticism? They're not breaking down the game, or is it more personal? They are. They are pretty rough. They are rough on each other. And they. They get dolled up, too. Girl. And they're always talking behind each other's backs. Would you say girl? Yeah, Marvin. At one time, these women were known as LA Work. Whoa. Yep. So you want to know where the term comes from? It's these women. But they're not wives. No, they're not. It started out. Sorry, backstory. It started out Shaquille o' Neal's ex wife, Shawnee o', Neal, started this show Basketball. Basketball Wives. Hey, let's see what lives of the athletes wives are. And then it just turned into. It's almost like the Housewives. Housewives show. Atlanta, D.C. oh, Minnesota. This is worse than that. Oh, yes, very much so. This is worse than that. Oh, my goodness. Yes. Mark. I tell my wife this. She goes, what's he Doing? Watching Basketball Wives? I don't know, Marvin. They're not even wives. I said, I know. My wife caught me, though. Oh, no. Yeah. She goes, what is this? I said, it's Basketball Wives. Whose wives? I said, I don't know. She goes, why are you watching this? And I said, I don't know. And she goes, I thought you said you're coming downstairs and watch the Red Sox and Yankees. I said, I have been, but I flipped around. And then she goes, okay, you need some Mac football stat. I do. I do. Yes, Marvin, I know. I feel bad because I caught myself watching the first couple of seasons that it'd be like, oh, whose wife is this? This is Speedy Claxton's wife. Like Eric Williams. Which Eric Williams? Boston Celtics great Eric Williams. Man, there's a whole lot going on. There's a whole lot. You live a full life, you know, I don't. I don't. You don't want to live vicariously through me. Yes. Dylan, I do appreciate how you tried to say you were watching the Red Sox game when she came out. I swear I just flipped the channel for two seconds. I know. Which I did. But then I watched 15 minutes. That's how they get you. I know. You see one drink get thrown, and you're like, all right, I'll check this out. Man, there's a lot going on. Oh, dang. Next episode, they're going to Cabo. I gotta watch that one. I want to go to Cabo. Well, they went to Vegas. Oh, boy. Oh, what goes on in Vegas didn't stay in Vegas. What? When Derek Coleman's ex wife finds his current wife. Yeah, when the girls start dishing some tea. Girl. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9:00am Eastern, 6:00am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight fire with Jason McIntyre. This isn't your typical sports pod, pushing the same tired narratives down your throat every day. 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Weekly horror side quests written and narrated by yours truly with a full episode read and a commentary special. And we will cap it off with Horror Movie Battle Royale. Jason versus Freddy. Michael Myers versus the Alien Thing with the Little Tongue Monster. October. We're doing it Halloween style. Listen to the Traverse Podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week that is exactly what you're gonna get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh my. So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that? Yes. Might want to go Back to the Colt Stadium. Yeah. Might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry. I wouldn't fight him. I would. Listen to NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dan, he's Ty. Hello. And we're the solid verbal college football podcast. College football season is here and you know what that means. Your team is going to break your heart three times probably before Halloween. Uh huh. But fear not, the solid verbal will be right there with you through every soul crushing loss, an impossible comeback. Join us all season long, all year long, as we ride the roller coaster of this ridiculous sport. Whether you're a die hard fan or a casual observer, we'll help you make sense of all the chaos and of course, celebrate the madness. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan. We don't just love college football, Tyler, we live it. Listen to the solid verbal college football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It may look different, but Native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly like very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric. That this is something we've been doing for hundreds of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornelas, who with Rutherford Falls, became the first Native showrunner in television history. On the podcast Burn Sage Burned Bridges, we explore her story along with other Native stories such as the creation of the first Native Comic Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage, Burn bridges on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Thursday Night Football accompanying the baseball today and tonight. Al Michaels will be on the call with Kirk Herbstreak. And it's a NFC west matchup. It's the Niners and the Rams kicking off at SoFi at 08:15 Eastern on Prime Video. Home game for you, Dano. Nothing better than a home game. You kidding? You know, I get. I get per diem and I get mileage. It's perfect, man. Is there a stadium, though, that if you look back or you go to and you go, that's the best place to call a game. And then the stadium where you go, that's the worst place to call again? Well, you know, Kansas City was built like in 1971 or two arrowhead, and they built it vertically and we sit right over the field. I mean, at the 50 yard line, it's perfect. That's a game that I could actually call with the naked eye and not even have to look at the monitor. So far is really good. The newer stadiums are a little bit higher. They're all pretty good. The worst of all time. Of all time. And of course, it was the worst stadium of all time, as well as Candlestick park in San Francisco. It was cold, it was windy. You know, I did the Giants for three years and then. But calling football, you're in a press box that was so high one night I said, I think on Monday Night Football, I said, it's the only place where you look down on the blimp. That was the worst. Did you ever have of all time. Did you ever have fog in everything? You know, when I was doing the Giants and they were moribund franchise and they had chapter 11, a man named Bob Lurie, no relation to Jeff, came in and saved the team in 1976. But it was so bad at Candlestick that one night they handed me a slip of paper with the attendance figure. We had an intern, his name was Larry Baer, who's now the president of the team. He was an intern in the press box. And he gave me a slip of paper and I looked at it and I went, you know what? Tonight's attendance. Why don't I just tell you who's here. Mr. Mrs. Jim McAlpine have come in from Mill Valley. Harvey Falukian has come up from San Jose and the station wagon with the dog. Those were the days my friend and I had left, don't forget, I had left the Cincinnati Reds, the big Red machine, because simply, you know, obviously it was a money grab. I mean, the Giants were going to triple my salary, so what was I supposed to do? But you know, it's crazy since you and I, you know, I announced the Reds and you grew up in the area and loved the Reds. So I'm listening to the game the other night. The last time. I'd forgotten the last time the Reds won a playoff series, 1995. I did it. I did it. They beat the Dodgers in the divisional round and have not won a play a postseason series since. What's going on? What about the. I brought up the Big Red Machine. I think it's the best National League lineup that I can remember. You called those games with the Big Red Machine. And I'm probably biased because I was there all the time and got to listen to you call those games. But is there a National League team that would compare to them? I can't think of one. I mean, you. Look, we. You were there, you know, as a kid, I'm, I'm announcing those games. I mean, you have Pete Rose in his prime, Johnny Ben entering his prime, Tony Perez in his prime, Joe Morgan getting traded over in his prime. Davey Concepion in his prime. Sparky Anderson, hall of Fame manager. I can't think of any team that, you know, I'm sure there have been through the years, some that people would say, hey, listen, they compared to that. But I, I can't think of one and don't. And in my last year there, 1973, you know, we call up our. Our top guy from the farm system. His name happened to be Ken Griffey Senior, who's. Whose kid. Whose kid had a pretty good career as well. But if you were going to call, I. I'm going to give you your pick of any sport to call. Well, I used to love baseball. I mean, I built my career around baseball. I love baseball. I've been removed from it. I haven't done a game since the 1995 World Series, Atlanta against Cleveland. So obviously I've been. I've been. I've been now involved with, you know, football prime time. This is the 40th year of doing primetime football. Between Monday night, Sunday night, Thursday night, I'll go to, you know, if I live long enough, I'll do it like a Wednesday, 3am game. So, you know, right now it's all about football for me. You know, hockey is, you know, obviously the centerpiece, and that's the most relevant thing that, you know, happened to me in my career, obviously with Lake Placid. But hockey's a hard game to call, a rough game. I mean, it's, it's so fast and, and, you know, obviously I have such great respect for the guys like, you know, Mike Emmerich, who did it for years. That's, that's, that's the toughest game to call. But as a fan, I think, you know, I love hockey. I love it. I've had king season tickets for 33 years. Season starts next week. But being locked in on a game where you're, you have to call, you're constantly calling the action. Whereas baseball, you can let it breathe. Football, you can let it breathe. Hockey, can't let it breathe. Yeah, no. And, you know, TV and radio are pretty much the same. You almost have to do the same call that you did on radio, on television. There's very little spacing there. And it's, it's a great little back and forth between the play by play man and the analyst in hockey because the analyst has to pick his spots. He has to know exactly when to come in. And on that note, I mean, I just have to shout out to the late Ken Dryden, who passed away, you know, in the past month, who was my partner in Lake Placid. And you know, we're in the middle of the Olympics. We're calling seven games, including obviously the Soviet game and the victory over Finland that cinched the gold medal. And Kenny had never done, he'd never done announcing in his life. He had just retired from the Montreal Canadiens after winning six Stanley Cups. Something five isn't the trophies. He was, it was unbelievable. He had to pick his spots, get in and out in eight seconds. It was a tough thing to do. And he did it talking to Al Michaels. He'll be on the call Thursday Night Football on Prime Video with Herbie, and that will start at 8:15 Eastern. But working with somebody else, I mean, there's chemistry, synchronicity. But how do you, how do you suggest to your analyst, don't go as long as you're going, because I still have to get, I have to set up the play. How do you do that in a professional manner? Well, I think I've been lucky through the years because when I started doing Monday Night, Frank Gifford had done it for a lot of years. And then we added dan Deardorf in 1987 and Dan had done a lot of broadcasting in St. Louis. So the guys that I worked with are guys that have had a lot of experience. Obviously when I had John Madden in 2002 through 2008, he understood top to bottom. Chris Collinsworth had had a lot of experience. I mean, the only. And I also had Dan Foust for two years, but I had Dan with Dennis Miller. Now that was tricky, but Dennis was so Smart, you know, he kind of figured out how to. How to pull that thing off. But those were. I got to tell you, those were two wild years. If you remember, on Monday Night Football with Fouch and. And then do the Howard Cosell relationship. How would you sum that up? Of working with somebody who was, you know, there's been nobody like him since, but dealing with somebody who had an ego that he thought he was probably more important than anybody else who was playing in a game. Well, I did a lot of baseball with Howard in the 70s and into the 80s. It was a lot of fun at first, I gotta say. I mean, you. The one thing about working with Cosell is you knew you would always come away with the story. And I've got a million of them, right? And Howard was. He was fun to work with to a degree early on, and he got toward the end of his career, and life just became bitter, and it became very, very difficult to work with him in like, 1984, 1985. And finally, you know, that was the end of Howard's broadcasting career. So, you know, at first, when, you know, like in the 70s and early 80s, and I did a couple of World Series with him as well, he. He was fun. And as I say, you. I go home and have, you know, five stories from the night before. And then after that, it was. He did, you know, he just grew tired of, like, everything at the end. So it wasn't a pleasant departure. You never got close to fisticuffs like Brent Musburger with Jimmy the Greek? No, no, no, not at all. No. He. He. He wouldn't have been able to handle him at the end of my. Right chip, you know what kind of tell you. Well, you would have thought he would have helped him. I, I would have pulled his to pay off first, you know. Do you want to do one more baseball game? One more hockey game? No, no, not really. Because with baseball, I mean, I've been out of it for 30 years, Dan, so I'm, you know, beyond rusty. And I used to know, obviously, when I was doing baseball, I would know everybody. Now I, you know, I watched the All Star Game this year. I knew like six guys, seven guys. But I will say this, man. I, I do love postseason baseball all of a sudden. I mean, it's. It's great. I mean, you know, totally immersed in it already. So postseason baseball is as good as it gets. And just, you know, it's not over just the way. Just the way the. The. The. The sun is. You know, you watch the day Games and the shadows and the whole thing. It's, I don't say it's romantic but I mean it's, it's really, it's very, it's very, very cool. I miss it. Where do you part. I miss for sure. Where do you stand on overtime in the NFL? I think they should go back to 15 minutes. I think it's okay for a game to end in a tie. When it went, when it was 15 minutes, it did. But the 10 minute thing is, is, you know, somebody, obviously the other team can get the ball. Now they've changed that rule. So each team is going to get it. No matter what the, the first team does. If they score a touchdown, the other team's going to get an opportunity. But they may only have two minutes so you know, you might have an eight minute drive. So I think, I don't know why they went to the ten minute thing. I think maybe to reduce injuries, but you know, I mean, what's the difference at a certain point whether the game is 70 minutes or 75 minutes? You got. That's the only thing I would change. I go back to 15. You got the Rams and the Niners and here you got the Niners. A lot of interchangeable parts here. How does that change your approach tonight? Broadcasting, doing play by play? Well, I mean the Niners are star crossed. I mean last year 6 and 11 because of all of the injuries and here we go again. Brock Purdy is not playing tonight. George Kittle is still on injured reserve. Their two top receivers, Pearsall and Jennings are out. They've got, you know, I mean demarcus Robinson or Marquez, Valdez, Scanlan are two of their guys that are going to, you know, be the receivers tonight. Kittle's out, they've got a rookie left guard. They've got Mac Jones starting, but he's won two games for them already. So I mean the Niners are, they're just a mass unit right now but you know, it's the National Football League and anything can happen. Meanwhile, the, you know, the Rams look great. I mean the Rams are definitely a Super bowl contender. We were talking in our meeting last night about the offense. We've got Stafford, you've got Kyron Williams, one of the best backs in the league. Puka Nukua is over the moon. I mean this guy is phenomenal. Now you got Devonte, Adams, Higby is a tight end. He's out tonight. They're deep. They built, you know, they built their team. Dan, around the defensive line, what they've done with that defensive line with Verse and Fisk and the other guys that they brought in and drafted. They did what the Niners did in the late 90s with John lynch and, excuse me, not the late 90s, but like in the late teens, in 20, 18, 19 in that area. They went to two Super Bowls by building that defensive line around Bosa and the other guys. Now they have none of those guys. And the Rams have morphed into what the 49ers became on the defensive front. So, I mean, the Rams are a full fledged super bowl contender. Any problem with Tom Brady being in meetings with teams as a minority owner of the Raiders? Not really, no. I mean, you could get all the information you need without necessarily being in those meetings. No, I have no. No problem with it at all. Ever been told something in the meeting that you wondered if it was true? Oh, yeah, a lot. But that was in the early days. Now the guys are much better. But my favorite meeting. Mike Morris is coaching the. The Rams when they were in St. Louis in around 2002. 3. It's a Monday night game, and we're in there and. And Mike says to us, hey, off the record. And he tells us something, and I have the St. Louis Post dispatch on the desk in front of me. I said, mike, here it is. It's on the front page of the sports section. Off the record. It became on the Record while we were sitting here in this meeting. Now, most of most. Most of the meetings, look, the coaches understand it now, especially the younger guys, and they understand, you know, deal with the media, had to deal with the, you know, with the broadcast folks. We were talking. It's funny, we were talking to Kyle Shanahan yesterday on the Zoom, and Kyle was talking about, you know, every press conference now is, you know, how's this guy? How's that guy? Is it a ligament? Is it a tendon? What is it? And so all of a sudden he says, you know, I didn't go to medical school. I'm answering all these questions, which reminded me of one of my favorite stories. Doc Rivers, who was my partner on the NBA back 20 years ago. And Doc was coaching the Celtics, like, in the 0809 area. And I think Paul Pierce had gotten hurt in a playoff game. So the first five questions are about Pierce, you know, how long is he out for? Is it an acl, Is it a ligament? What is it high with? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So after five or six questions, Doc finally looks down at the guy and he goes, hey, listen, he Says, you do know Doc is a nickname, right? So steak before or after the game? You know, tonight? Maybe a little. A couple of bites, maybe at halftime. But you know, I'll have like maybe a. I'll have a burger at the hotel before I go over there and then some candy corn during the game and Junior mentioned. And maybe a maybe two or three bites of a steak. Maybe tomorrow night. Tomorrow night for sure, Dan. At Toscana? Probably. Yeah. Maybe you can leave some scraps for Herbie's dog. Herbie's dog's already almost 100 pounds. He's just a baby. What the hell's going on here? Crazy stuff, man. Have fun tonight. Great to see you again. Thank you, Bud. Always great, always great, Dan. Take care, man. Al Michaels. Al on the call with Herbie tonight, Thursday Night Football and Prime Video. It'll be at SoFi at 8:15 Eastern. Niners and the Rams. Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow, this day in sports history. After this, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. What's up everybody? This is Snax from the Trapp Nerds podcast and we're bringing you the horror. Every week all October long. Kicking off this month, I'll be bringing you all my greatest fear inducing horror games from Resident Evil to Silent Hill. Me and Tony bringing backfireteam on Left 4 Dead 2. And we just gonna be going over some of the greats. Also in October we'll be talking about our favorite horror, horror and Halloween movies. 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Looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my. So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that? Yes. Might want to go back to the Colts stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry. I wouldn't fight him. I would listen to NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Frank on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dan. He's Ty. Hello. And we're the Solid Verbal College Football Podcast. College football season is here and you know what that means. Your team is going to break your heart three times, probably before Halloween. Uh huh. 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He's got a book out. So we'll talk to Charlie Sheen back on the program tomorrow. Yeah, Seaton. Did he have, I want to say, LIU winning the NCAA tournament that year in our bracket contest? Paulie still has the bracket. It was Akron versus liu. Akron versus liu. That's what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He filled out a bracket. That was bizarre that he filled out a bracket. What was the most random person that filled out a bracket? Yeah, Paulie. Michael Douglas, a legendary actor, participated twice. Yeah, I think Zlatan. Oh, yes, yes. I don't know who he had winning. He had Zlatan winning. He didn't fill it out. He signed his name and said, zlatan's gonna win. Seriously. Gambling podcast coming up. We're going to start taping that in about 15 minutes, 20 minutes from now with Shay and Irving, Dylan and of course, Bad Larry with picks on tonight's game and the games coming up this weekend. Let me see. Colby in California. Hi, Colby. What's on your mind? Hey, Bob. Hey. I was hoping to get on before you had Al Michaels on. I wanted to remind or ask you to remind him about calling the Westminster Dog show with Will Ferrell. Oh, that's right. Will wants to do that. Is it Will wants to do it or Al wants to do it with him? Colby, I thought, I thought Will agreed. It was, it was one of your guys ideas. I don't think you got Al to actually agree. Okay, well that could be a problem though. But yeah, I think Will probably reach out. But yeah, thanks for the phone call there. Let's see. Jim in Cleveland. Hi Jim, thanks for holding. What's on your mind? Hey, Dan. 64 Sympathy Way. 230 I had something about my son but first, hey, can Marvin make a drop where when he tries to derail to show you maybe play that break in my stride. Okay, I guess maybe. What else is on your mind? Okay. Hey and then I had, I'm from, I'm from Detroit area and I moved to Cleveland and we just had a newborn son and I told my wife's family that I want him to be a Browns fan. Loyalty. But now I heard you talking earlier that kind of sounds like a life of pain for him. So I'm not really sure where I should go with that. So I'll, I'll hang up on this. You know what, I let my kids pick their fandom. I did not influence them anyway. But I just said if you're in, be all in. You know, don't. Just don't change from year to year. That team, my team's not any good and I'm going to root for that guy. You find that they do root for a team, but they also root for individuals because everybody plays Fantasy Joe in Knoxville. Hi Joe. What's on your mind today? Hey guys, longtime listener, first time caller, 510. A rock solid 222. I was going to talk about the fastball differential, but first I'd like to say two big time lineups that I would say my favorite all time. The 19 Astros, they had Springer, Brantley, Altuve, Bregman, Alvarez Correa, Kyle Tucker, Yuli Gurrio and Martin Maldonado. They also had Verlander, Cole and Grinke. 1, 2, 3. How they didn't win the World Series, I don't know. But also the 93 Blue Jays with Henderson, Devo, Molitor, Alomar, Overood Carter, Ed Sprague, Tony Fernandez and a rookie, Carlos Delgado. Just those two are just my favorite all time lineups. And as for the fastball, you go back and look at it I believe they used to measure it from a different distance from the plate. You go back and watch when guys through, you know, 89, 90. You look at it now, I've watched so many games, you could kind of slow it down a little. If you want 90 back then, looks about like 93 now. If you want 93, 94 now. If you watch the games, like if you see it, it just look like a smooth pitch going in. It'll be 94 miles an hour. That used to be what 89, 90 looked like. So that's something to think about. All right, well, thank you, Joe. Nolan Ryan was throwing over a hundred and it was different back then of with a jugs gun. But I, you know, you talk to guys who faced him and they would swear that it was far more than 100 miles an hour. But that was a big deal. It's like, man, he's throwing a hundred. He was throwing more than that. How about this day in sports history? Paul? Just one. This one's fun. 1920, the Cincinnati Reds and Pittsburgh Pirates played the only triple header in baseball history. The Reds won two of the three games they needed to play, all of them because of the implications to the World Series. So there were two rain outs in a row. They played three games in one day in under six hours. On this date, 2016. Vin Sculling calls his final Dodgers game after 67 years. Also on this date, 1978, Bucky Dent three run homer. Bucky Effin Dent. The Yankees eliminate the Red Sox that single playoff game for the AL east title. Also Don Shula beat David Shula Dolphins over the Bengals. First ever NFL meeting between father and son head coaches. Fresh in Milwaukee's back. Hi Fresh, what is up? And Dan X, got a question for you. Playing off of how great the pitchers and kickers are getting, an evolution of sports athletes in general, do you think there will ever be a time where the playing surfaces, baseball fields, football fields will need to be larger? I brought this up to the commissioner of the NBA. Will we get it? I think they might have to widen the court in the NBA just because of people. How many people are on the perimeter and I don't know if you raise the hoop at any point. I think that that was something that came out in the 70s. Is it time to raise the basket to feet? I hope that doesn't happen but I could see where they widen the field or the the court in basketball. I don't know if they'll do that with football or baseball. Baseball is about the dimensions. You Create your ballpark. I mean, it really is amazing. Imagine if Golden State created their own basketball court and the three point shot was five feet further. Just to play to Clay and Steph's strengths. Like in baseball, they allow you to do that. It's like this is what we do. We want a spacious stadium because we want to focus on pitching and defense. Or we want a short left field or right field porch because we got home run hitters. Let's go around the room. What we learned on the program. Dylan, in for Fritzi today. What'd you learn, Fritzi? Sandy Koufax, apparently. Yes. And you're Don Drysdale. Seaton. What'd you learn today? Not a lot of three MVP at the same time. Team Marvin, you're big in turkey. Yeah, I didn't know that. You know, cosmetic surgery is really big in turkey. That's Turkey A. Is that official turkey? Yeah, it is. I think so. Al Michaels, steak at halftime. Dylan, what did I learn? You learned that Turkey A is turkey. You didn't have anything, did you? No, I didn't. I'm not used to being Todd. What's up, everybody? Snacks from the trap. Nerds. And all October long, we're bringing you the horror. Boogity, boogity, boogity. 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