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I'm Eva Longoria. And I'm Maite Gomez Jejun. And this week on our podcast Hungry for History, we talk oysters. Plus the Miambi chief stops by. If you're not an oyster lover, don't even talk to me. Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells to vote politicians into exile. So our word ostracize is related to the word oyster. No way. Bring back the ostracon. Listen to Hung Hungry for history on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Final hour in this Wednesday. It'll be busy. Dave Roberts, Dodger skipper, will join us. Also, Phil Jackson, he's got a book that he collaborated with the longtime NBA writer, Bulls writer Sam Smith, who gave us the Jordan rules. And Phil will join us coming up here in a little bit. Sunday night, Pittsburgh has a big challenge. It's Aaron Rodgers leading the Steelers against Justin Herbert and the Chargers. That'll be primetime Sunday, 7 Eastern on NBC. And Peacock. That's spicy. I like that matchup. That's easy to promote when you put Justin Herbert there and you put Aaron Rodgers there. 8 7, 7, 3, DP show email address dp@danpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP Show Good morning. If you are watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading the app. And poll question for the final hour of the program is going to be what? Seaton. Yeah, let me get you caught up here. Sort of workshopping a Tom Brady dog cloning poll question as we speak. Of course. However, let me get you caught up. If you're a Jets fan today, 63% are feeling lost currently, which is the best state for football. Indiana's got 30% of that vote. The field, however, has 70%. Okay, and then this one, Kyler Murray finishes his career with the Cardinals. Another NFL team or in baseball, 87% right now have another NFL team. Okay. Baseball's getting 11% of that vote. All right. All right. Paulie's happy with that. Keith and Charlotte. Hi, Keith. What's on your mind today? Hey, Dan, I've called you last couple of weeks about our last couple months about the Panthers. And I was trying to get in on Friday to offer another pie to face bet them to beat the Green Bay Packers. Whether you believe me or not, it's all good timing. Didn't work out. So I got another bet for you guys. It's my birthday today and I'm hoping that someone will take me up on this. I need. I want to see the content on the show for you, Dan. I am going to take the Panthers to make the playoffs. Their defense is playing great. Bryce is serviceable. Rico dowdles rolling. So who's got Duff? He's got the field. Anybody want a piece of Keith in Charlotte? He's got the Panthers making the playoffs. Yes, Marvin, Happy birthday. But no, no, they don't make the playoffs. No, no bet. Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, you do believe in Carolina. Oh, wow. Okay. They got a chance. Well, they got a winning record. What do they got? Five wins yeah, five and went. But they got some tough games down the stretch. Get the Buccaneers twice, the Seahawks, the Rams, the Niners. Well, once again, Keith is asking if anybody wants a piece of it. According to this website that I'm looking at, they have about a 57% chance of making the playoffs. As I think in eight, it looks like they have about a 57% chance of making the playoffs. Oh, okay. So bad. Yeah, I. I don't think you have any takers here, Keith. I think people are kind of saying they kind of think the Panthers are playoff worthy. Ish. I guess I'll take that, Sam. Well, you're going to have to. Nobody else is going to take you up on that. It's a good story. Really good story. I think you got everybody's attention when you go to Green Bay and you beat Green Bay. But that's. I think a lot of times what happens is we're like, what's wrong with Green Bay? They've had, you know, you lose to Carolina at home and you lose to the Browns. Yeah, Seeden. So I completely read that wrong. They have a 57% chance to not make. They have an 11% chance of getting in as a seven seed. The wild card seeds, they have about, like somewhere between a 4 to see a 7 to 11% chance of getting a wild card. Okay, so are you saying you're gonna take Keith up on the bet now? It's a unbelievably optimistic take by Keith. Okay, yeah, I'll jump in on it. Since I messed up what I said before, now I feel like I have to do it. So I'll jump in on the. All right, so Keith Seaton will take you up on the offer. I'm saying that they're not going to win the bet. Loser gets in a cage with a Panther. Any takers? Now is that like Rico. Rico Dowdell that you get in the cage with him or an actual Panther? Yeah. Which would you rather least like to be attacked by Mark in St. Cloud, Minnesota. Hi, Mark. Welcome back. And I got a couple things for you. First of all, you touched on the Packers. Why is it they start so slow? It's like a nonchalant attitude with that team. And I think it's from the coach on down. I mean, you never see him get that fired up. And it reflects in the quarterback. And I know people like calm quarterbacks and cool under fire, but you can't be Joe Cool all the time. Plus, I have a stat of the day for you, if you're willing. Sure. All right, just a moment, Dan. Let me pull it up here. And maybe this goes hand in hand with a state that is not number one in the country for football. Wisconsin. The schools that sell the most booze. The Badgers lead the list with over 3 million in revenue. This is public schools only, so maybe Northwestern sells more. Nebraska is second, followed by Tennessee, LSU and Minnesota. And that list comes from front office sports. There's your stat of the day. All right. Thank you. Mark Day. This is the start of the day. Start of the day. Brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Well, look who's back. Dodger manager Dave Roberts. Another World Series title. Didn't need to make a proclamation in spring training. Didn't have to do any of that stuff. Just a easy seven games, and there you are winning again, I guess. Can you compare the back to back, the different feelings that you had? Well, I'm glad you're ho hum about was very difficult. Winning a championship is very difficult. Winning two is even tougher. No, I mean, there's nothing like game seven. And a lot of things had to happen. Guys stepped up, and I'm just proud of the guys. It was. There's a lot of pressure points in that series, in the postseason, and certainly in the World Series, but it certainly wasn't easy. And yeah, we've done something that hadn't been done in 25 years, but you look at pressure and we. We could see pressure. It was tangible. When you're watching game seven, but the pressure to. You're supposed to win, expected to win by, you know, the media, the, you know, fans, it feels like that the difference in being an underdog and winning, like when you won with the Red Sox as a player to winning when you're the favorite, the different kind of pressures or feelings that you have with that. Yeah, you know, I. I guess, you know, I don't know. I guess the thing about sports is, yeah, everyone's got opinions, but, you know, the David and Goliath narrative, fans, media, put things together that just aren't true. And to be quite honest, people that have never been in the ring and the Blue Jays were a very good team. They won the AL East. They won more baseball games than we did. But we're. We're Goliath. And so I. It was a great series, and we're trying to win the series. They were trying to win a World Series. I don't think he was pressure. I think that what happens is as athletes, as teams, you have expectations and goals for yourself. And, you know, you don't want more for yourself than I think than fans do. You want to win, you expect to win. So I don't think that our pressure or pressure from the fans or media had any bearing on the game. We were trying to win for each other in the city of Los Angeles. Give me the move that maybe you were going to second guess yourself in game seven and you didn't. Probably. Well, the easiest one is hitting for Miguel Ross. He's a defensive guy. I inserted him in game six to add some infusion and energy into our club. And yeah, that's, that's probably the one. But you know, looking at the bench is tough to pinch it and anyone can say, and you were probably second guessing me saying you should hit for him and because the numbers say that there's other guys that can hit, hit home runs and this. But it's hard to come off the bench and I trust in my players and you know, he made me look good and he deserved that moment. And in the postseason. What I have learned, Dan, is, you know, it's not about the numbers. You got to trust your players. And my job is to know the players. That's my job. Ultimately, that's my job. It's not to know statistics. It's about to know the heartbeat of the player. And I do believe that, you know, to win 11 or this year 13 games in October, you've got to trust your players and know your players. And that's what we did. But so you're saying gut feeling still has a place in the game. It feels like we're so attached to analytics. How much of what you did in game seven was gut as opposed to analytics? It's, it's all gut. I think that if you look back at 2024 in the postseason, it's the eye test. It's got. But people, if you look at 2020, it's eye test. It's got. People can't get off the analytics for some reason. So these are people that are just stuck in their ways and you're never going to change them. But if people that really want to what that really watch the game and know the game, then they can see that analytics had nothing. It's about, you know, coaches trusting their players and players stepping up in big moments. When you saw the collision in left center with Pius and K, what I was, prayers were answered. It was unbelievable. You know, they both went after it. Kiki was trying to make his Willie Mays play. Pace was just inserted and Just made a next level big moment play. And it's funny because Kiki laid down there for dead and Pais asked him if he was okay and he says, forget that. Do you have the ball? And he said, yes, I do have the ball. And he goes, he got up and ran into the dugout. So it was, it was. But again. And it's like Miguel Rojas coming out of Game 7 because he just expended all energy. It's like that's just what fans live for and that's what our players gave both teams. The play at the plate, how close that was. Are you ready then to ask for replay? Oh, that was like I was asking for replay right from the get go or if they would have called it, say for sure. And I was with Will Smith last night. And he goes, I honestly did not realize that I took my foot off the plate to then have the wherewithal to put it down. And that's the thing is that. But even the play for Miggy to, to take it, to lose momentum and then to regain to make a good throw for Will to field it, get his foot back down. I mean, oh my God, it's. It's a heartache series. Talking to Dave Roberts, Dodger manager Yamamoto reminded me of Pedro. Remind me of Pedro Martinez. I are they similar build, similar size and you know, very similar build, very similar size. You know, obviously Pedro, you know, sort of a similar mix. If you say the split is Pedro's changeup and just same mindset. You know, Pedro on game days, I've never seen. He's an assassin and Yamamoto is an assassin. What he did is stuff like Pedro S. Sandy Kofask esque. Obviously what mad bum did, I did. And I don't know if it was 2012 or 2014, one of those Giants years. But yeah, I mean this is the guy that. Yeah, not physical, but his mind Dan is just pretty spectacular. But if you would have said, hey, beginning of the series, a Japanese born player is going to win mvp. Johe all day. Yeah, all day. But what did you learn about him in this World Series or in the playoffs that maybe you didn't know? Yeah, okay. Okay. Yeah. Not the World Series, the playoffs. I actually, I knew that he. He's a killer. I knew it. This guy. And he showed that, you know, this year having just a tremendous years being a stopper for us, pitching huge in big games, going complete game, doing what he did in Milwaukee was incredible. Complete game one, one run. I think the first. Yeah. Gives up a solo homer a Leadoff homer, then goes nine innings shut after that, then the, the next game, complete game. And then in game three, 18 innings, I think he was like, 13th inning, he's like, I'm ready to go down there. I'm not going to let a position player pitch in the game. In a World Series game. And this is a one day off. And so that showed me a lot. Freddy walks it off. And then so yesterday or game seven, obviously was no surprise. But to go three innings was incredible. But Otani, and you're using him throughout the season, ramping him up. Was he coming in, in game seven or no? No, no, because he started game seven. Okay. And then so once he was done, he gave us three innings. And then I was like, you know what? I think he just wasn't as sharp. Get him off the pitching, lock in on the hitting, and then we had some arms behind him. Yeah, I thought the way you ramped him up the entire season was interesting. Like, you know, when you have that kind of talent, but, you know, he's got two innings or he's got three like you, you got to be careful that you don't get greedy in a situation. I guess like that. You do, you do. And it was you. It's hard not to be greedy. But we went one inning. We remained steadfast. One inning, one and two innings. Two innings, three innings. And then, you know, at the end, that was the first time because all year he had seven, eight, nine, ten days of rest. So game seven was the first time he ever went on three days rest. So that's why, you know, this guy's coming off two Tommy John's. He is. He's our team mvp. And so he's two players in one. So we couldn't get greed with him. So three days, he wasn't terribly sharp. He gave us three innings. That was. That was plenty. Clayton Kershaw is joining us tomorrow. Nice. What should I bring up to him? Oh, my gosh. You know, I think. Was he going in, in game seven? He was. It was either going to be the next hitter or certainly if they tied it up, if Kirk tied it up right there, Clayton was going to take the next sitting. How nervous were you when he was on the mound, when he got that? You know, I was nervous in that game. Game three, Game three. I bring him in in a bases loaded situation. And it goes back to, again, it goes back to trust your players. Clayton and I have been through so much in my 10 years with him. Eighteen years, obviously, in his career. And we've had some lows certainly together, and we had some highs. But again, I'm going to. If I, if it's going to go down, I'm going to. I'm going to bet on Clayton Kershaw, and I've proved that time and time again. How was the celebration? Oh, so last year was insane. We didn't get it in 2020, so sort of kind of butted up together in 24. But last yesterday's parade or two days ago's parade was. It was the best. The best. They, they, they did they one up themselves, more people, a longer parade route. Players were just overjoyed. It was fantastic. Dan, you getting used to this? I would say I, I, I, it's, it's. I enjoy it. I wouldn't say getting used to it. We already talked about the players already talked about it 3 Pete. I talked about it 3 P. So I'm not making any guarantees, but I already cleared it with Pat Riley on the three peat term. So we're excited. I just think with us, you got to find some carrot. You know, it's like we started out in South Korea in 24, finished in the Bronx, started out in Tokyo, finished in Canada. And so we've had the longest season, the shortest offseason of anyone, travel the most miles. So you've got to have some carrot to keep our guys focused and motivated. So the three peat is it for us. Yeah. I mean, you should. You want to win, you expect to win. That's right. That's absolutely right. Congrats. Congrats. Thank you, Dan. I appreciate you, man. All right. Enjoy your off season. All right. Take care. And tell Clayton I said hello tomorrow. All righty. That's Dave Roberts did it again. I remember that was when he guaranteed. What was that? 20, 24. And I think he was like, I'm not going to do that again. You know, they're going to hold me accountable. But he's right about a carrot. You know, when you win now, what do you do? You know, the motivation? How do we get you to go all in again? Hey, we're going to be a three peat. Absolutely. And Pat Riley will take a piece of that. Dave Roberts, he's won four World Series, so three with the Dodgers. Then he, of course, won one as a player with the Red Sox. All right, when we come back, Phil Jackson, he's got a book out and he collaborated with Sam Smith. It's called Masters of the Game, a conversational history of the NBA in 75 legendary players. We'll talk to him and Sam Smith. Coming up next year on the Dan Patrick show, be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington from the Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio. And in addition to hearing us live weeknights from 7 to 10pm Eastern on Fox Sports Radio, we are excited to announce brand new YouTube channel for the show. 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Listen to Paper Ghosts, the Texas Teen murders on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Robert Smith, and this is Jacob Goldstein, and we used to host a show called Planet Money. And now we're back making this new podcast called Business History about the best ideas and people and businesses in history and some of the worst people, horrible ideas and destructive companies in the history of business. Having a genius idea without a need for it is nothing. It's like not having it at all. It's a very simple, elegant lesson. Make something people want. First episode, how Southwest Airlines used cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline business. The most Texas story ever. There's a lot of mavericks in that story. We're gonna have mavericks on the show. We're gonna have plenty of robber barons. So many robber barons. And you know what? They're not all bad. 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With a cast of hundreds of actors and comedians playing key, key figures, we'll take a look at how adult films became legal in the 70s, hugely profitable in the 80s and 90s, and fell off a financial cliff in the 2000s. Listen to General World on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Bulls came back from 24 down, beat the 76ers. The Thunder still undefeated. They beat the Clippers 126, 107. And that's the best start by a defending champ since the 20152016 warriors open the season with 24 consecutive wins. Sam Smith, Phil Jackson, co authors of Masters of the Game, a conversational history of the NBA and its 75 legendary players. Sam, of course, covers the Bulls. He's done so since 1987, he gave us the Jordan rules. And of course, Phil Jackson, 11 time NBA champ. And they join us now. Phil, you know, you have all of these different players, all these different chapters where you and Sam are just talking back and forth about them, giving your thoughts in a conversational tone. Give me the, the player that you had the most fun talking about in this book. Well, I think we could have gone on forever about Dennis Rodman, but I would say some of the guys that I didn't coach, some of the guys that, you know, Hamachek and players that, you know, competed against and had admiration for Sam, Give me the player in the book that more people should know about. You know, I think one who gets overlooked so much is Rick Barry. You know, people know Rick Barry, I don't think they appreciate how great Rick Barry, you know, in my view could have been, you know, a Steph Curry with his shooting ability. He was such an all around versatile player who for various reasons was so universally disliked. But you know, one of the interesting things, Phil went on a lot of State Department tours back then and he was on one with Rick. And I remember one Phil was telling, we were talking about one with Pete Marovich where, and I know the history books don't reflect this actually, but Pete basically opened China before Richard Nixon. Because I think on some of the State Department tours, you know, Pete's dribbling and passing and playing, you know, so excited some of the communities in China we were talking about. And that was another. I know they know Pete Maravich, but you know, they don't know in this era. And to me that was part, that was really what the book's about, that these guys sort of lost to history as much gets. But I, I believe, and I think when you see Jokic now and you see Donkets, these guys could have played in any era, including this era. And I don't think that is appreciated. And that was, that was a big part of my interest in the book. It feels like the NBA started when Magic and Larry showed up. So you had players in the 60s, certainly in the 70s. They missed out on the TV era. And I think Kareem, the better years of his career, he missed out, or at least we missed out. But what do you remember about Kareem? Yeah, this is a guy who had, you know, a body that could survive playing in this game for 20 some years. Not too many guys can even shoot the step hook as a jump hook or two foot takeoff. And Kareem was able to perfect this shot he was able to play with a certain amount of grace. His defense was always criticized and his rebounding perhaps as a shortcoming, but his scoring was never. He was a great scorer and he was a guy that held himself together quite well off the court as well as on. We're talking to Sam Smith and Phil Jackson. The book is Masters of the Game, A conversational history of the NBA, the 75 legendary players. So was there somebody that you wanted to include that you didn't? We used the NBA's top 75 and, you know, no offense, but I thought there were too many, but it was 75 years, they had to go in 75. You know, sort of the controversial, if it would be name was Dwight Howard, but he's a Hall of Famer. You know, people look at it as a negative when you say, well, he wasn't deserving to be in the hall of Fame, you know, a top 75. And, and I thought some of the 75, you know, Damian Lillard, no offense, I didn't think he was the top 75 player. I think there was some recent, you know, recency bias in the list, but it had to get to 75. I, I don't, I think it was overall a pretty good list. You know, I ended up being on the panel. I know Phil doesn't like to select rank people and we didn't rank people in this. And I think that's another thing that's different. You know, it's not the debate who's number one, who's number two. You know, it's a, it's a look at the history of it. So I think it's a fairly good list overall. Phil, over the years, it feels like your relationship with Scottie Pippen has been complicated. Can you expound upon that? Well, I was assistant coach when Scotty came into the game and I played with him and against him one on one and tried to help his game out a little bit. And I was big in promoting Scotty because, you know, we had Scotty coming off the bench and I had to sub in as a coach for Doug Collins when he got thrown out of a game. And that was like the immediate thing I did. I put Scotty in the game and up the pressure defense because this is one of the best defensive players ever to play the game. So I had a lot of admiration for him and had a lot of contact with him. He was the on court guy that I alerted all the time when defensive strategies would come, double teams, traps, etc. WHISTLE hey, Scotty. It's time, whatever. So, yeah, it was a. It was shocking to hear the comments that he made, but he had a situation that was coming off the bench, not being able to play the last few seconds of a basketball game, that was critical, and it made a big change in his life. Michael called the next day from baseball and said, I don't know if Scotty will ever be able to live this down. And I think it's been a hard thing to live down, you know, refusing to go on a ball game because things didn't go your way. Michael. I wanted to add something briefly with that. I thought it was really poignant. You know, Phil's kept a good relationship with Michael. I've seen him occasionally, but we don't chat as much as he and Phil might. And when some of those things came out and we talked about this in the book, that Phil had asked Michael about that and Michael really expressed regret, I thought it was really poignant that Michael told Phil that he feels terrible about losing the relationship with Scotty. You know, a 20, 25 year relationship that was closer than a lot of people thought. And so, you know, it struck me as really poignant that Michael felt a loss about this Phil. The Dennis Rodman relationship, certainly different, but it almost felt like you had these big personalities and you gave everybody almost their own longitude and latitude. Is that fair to say? We. We had a team that was without a power forward when Michael came back to play after his baseball stint. And, you know, we put out a list of power forwards that could be or would be capable of filling that role. And we came up with Dennis Rodman as the only one that really fit the bill. We traded Will Perdue for him, and it wasn't a big money thing. And after meeting Dennis and knowing who he was, I addressed the team as, we're all adults. There's got to be exception for some players. This guy's not going to come to the games on time. He doesn't shoot. He doesn't go out and shoot around. So he's asked me if he can come a half hour late. So he'll be fine. We'll find him like the NBA wants to find players for not being there an hour and a half before the game. And at the end of the year, he'll pay the fine of whatever it was, $2,500 or whatever. But these are exceptions that we're going to have to live with with this guy. And I think his talent overweighs what's going to happen as we grow together to towards winning a championship. Phil, give me the player you wish you had coached. Wow. I think a lot of. There are a lot of players that you look at and say what a terrific player this guy is. He's overall. But I think Leitner is like one of the guys I thought never really got to play the way he was capable of playing in the NBA that would like to coach guy like that, that has talent, had some leadership ability, maybe never blossomed as an NBA player. Sam, who do you think changed the game more, Michael Jordan or Steph Curry? Michael Jordan, partially because I'm still with the Bulls. So I have to say that that's in my contract. But the greatest thing, you know, I sometimes say, you know, this guy shot better than Michael. Pass better, Reba. And there's every skill they did better. Michael, how could be the greatest player? You know, part of it, it's not just, you know, Michael changed the world. You know, long shorts, men could be bald. You know, bald was good. Bald was never good before. Earrings, the shoes, the fashion. Michael's influence about the world way transcended basketball. And, you know, that's part of the equation. So I. I don't think anybody could ever rival Michael with the combination of his play. Guys, good luck with the book. It was a easy read. It was a fun read. And I learned a few things about some of those players that I didn't get a chance to see when I was growing up. Phil, I think I saw you at the Cincinnati Gardens when the Knicks came to town against the Royals. But thanks again, Sam. Great to see you, Phil. Thank you as well. And good luck with the book. Thanks, dan. Thank you. 30 years again. Thank you, Sam. So 30 years, if the Bulls win another championship. Because I'd always see Sam when they'd win a championship. How about Phil? Of all the players he could coach, and he gave me Christian Leitner. And I went, okay, Christian's gonna be happy to hear about that. But I was like, I almost said, wait a minute. Who. Yeah, Paulie, the whole room on this side. We all went, what? Because we expected, you know, Dominique Wilkins or some player who. Whatever. That's. That's gonna be frustrating if you hear Christian Leitner and you hear that. Almost. Yeah, but a compliment. Yeah. Yeah. Phil said that he wanted to. Like, I never. You could have given me a hundred guesses. You could have given me a thousand guesses, and I wouldn't have said Christian Laetner. Nick in Florida. Good morning, Nick. What's on your mind today? Morning, Dan. Six foot one, hundred seventy great interview. And I just finished another great interview from yesterday on YouTube. The Reggie, I mean he's always, he's always great. It's Reg, but that's what I wanted to call about because I, I just gotta give him so much credit and I don't want to take him for granted for an all star, a Hall of Famer, a guy like him, to be as vulnerable as he is over the years on the show and in other interviews, of course he's telling jokes, he's a great time. But I don't know any other hall of Famer. It's tough to think about, especially in hoops. That also just lets it out and gives you like he's going to talk about Michael Jordan trash talk moments. But also tell you I had, I just had to believe I was the best player even though I knew I wasn't. Yeah, I'm appreciative of Reg, but I've known Reggie going back to when he was a player. So it's probably been 30 years that I've known him. 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About 30, 47% are excited for the future, but 63% feeling lost. Okay, if you're not feeling good about this, go back and listen to Albert Brer, Last hour, the Monday morning quarterback, because he did present a scenario that sounded promising for jets fans. Okay. See, currently the best state for football, Indiana or the field. The field has 71% of that vote. That's not a bad showing for Indiana. Shout out Indiana. Okay. And also Kyler Murray, he will finish his career with another NFL team, has 87% of that vote. The Cardinals. Just 2.2. Your other option there was in Major League baseball. That's got 11% of the vote. Pretty good. Okay, how about that? An hour ago, we talked about Tom Brady. He's. He cloned his family dog and took some blood from the dog before it passed away. And then I guess they created a dog in his image based off the DNA and sample. Blood sample of the old dog. Yes, Rip. Okay, so you take the DNA and then what do you. You put it in a petri dish. How do I get a dog out of that? I'm looking at the website right now, and there's not a clear definition of how it's built. The dog, the new dog. Okay, but we have a game for you, Dan. How much to clone your dog? You're asking for the price. $5,000. I'm gonna give you another guess. I'm gonna go to the back row first seaton. How much to clone a dog? $25,000. Fritzy. $150,000. Marvin, $50,000. I'm gonna go $10,000. Okay. Cloning a dog costs. Marvin, $50,000. Paid in two installments, by the way. Okay. Can't just pay horse. Cloning is 85, 000. A lot more cloning going on there. Bigger horse. Well, yeah, if I got, you know, Triple crown winner or something. Oh, that would, you know, I can make money off my dog. Unless it's like a. The Westminster Dog Show. So cloning your dog 50k. All right, that's it. Rich in Wisconsin. Hi, Rich. Hey, Dan. Thanks for taking my call. I got a comment on the dogs and a T shirt idea. So the dogs. There's a lot of dogs that need to be adopted. My dog owner, myself. Adopt. We don't need to be making more dogs. They're all going to have their own personality. Just adopt. Okay, so the T shirt idea. Yeah, we're always. You're always talking about content. That's the king. So do a T shirt that has capital K O C on it. Pronounce it however you want. King of content. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Rich. I agree with you. Adopt. Adopt a dog. Yes. Nothing long wrong with getting a dog like Winnie or Penny. Yes, Todd. And get your pet spayed and neutered. Thank you, Todd. Yes, Paulie. My brother in law got a dog for his family and he paid at a high price for this dog because it was. They guaranteed it wouldn't shed. It was some. I don't know what it was. Guaranteed a something a doodle. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yes, it was something a doodle. Whatever it is, this dog sheds like. Like it's a contest and he's trying to win. Mike in Cincinnati. Hi, Mike. What's on your mind today? I agree with you, Dan. Adopt dogs. My God, there's so many of them. That's a classic example of having too much money and your damn dog. Anyway, your interview with Dave Roberts was just. You talk about. You were talking about the art of relaxing the. The interviewee. Well, you did it beautifully. I thought you guys were sitting on the couch, you know, over your house or something, just shooting a brief. But the story told. Can you recount quickly? Because I only. I didn't really hear it real well what TK said. The paw has with that catch. He just wanted to know if he caught it. Paez want to know if he was okay. And he was like, forget about that. Did you catch the ball? Because he thought if he didn't catch it, they lost this day in sports history. Paul, got a couple for you. Let's start with 1946. The first glass backboard shattered an NBA game. I know. You know who did it? He was a. Went on to be a TV star. Yes. He was the Rifleman. Chuck Connors of the Celtics. Chuck Connors, the Rifleman. The AFL was formed in 1959. And let's see. George Foreman, 1994, knocked out Michael Moorer in the 10th round of their WBA fight. By the way, Chuck Connors didn't dunk when he shattered the glass. Are you debunking? No, no, no. It shattered. But he actually, during warmups, he. He hit a shot that hit the front of the rim. And, and, and it cracked the glass backboard because it had been installed incorrectly. But he didn't do it where he brought down the house. Like Daryl Dawkins. Yes, Paulie, this is like Stolen valor. I've thought for decades that Chuck Connors was like this great dunker and then actor. Well, great actor. I don't think he was a great dunker. I've been duped. Yeah. Daryl Dawkins should sue somebody. That's hilarious. Yeah. So it was. It hit the front of the rim and then it cracked it because it had been installed improperly. At least. Source is close to poser. Yeah. Zach And South Bend. Hi, Zach. What's up, Dan? Six, three shooter. So two things real quick. I want to make a case for the best state for football being Indiana. And we have to add this piece at the high school level. There's a player at Knox high school, Miles McLaughlin. He's going for the national career rushing record to beat Derrick Henry. If they continue to win here in the next couple games, he's probably going to beat it. So. And he also. Derek Henry also made a comment here recently. I don't know if Paul. He wants to check that out real quick. You can see that. But second thing is, I was wondering we, since we came to the Notre Dame show, if you had a chance to try one of the two cigars that I brought you. Yes, I did. I tried the Hoya and it was great. That's a great cigar. And thank you, Zach. Yeah, this. This high school running back, I think he had like 600 yards in a game. Something crazy. But we're not including high school football. This is just College in the NFL. Yes. Paul. Yeah. Miles McLaughlin, Knox High School. Derek Henry's record is 12,124 yards in four years of high school. Yeah, but this, this kid ran for 500 or something yards. 12,000, I know. And he's approaching 12,000, I think for his. I think he's at 12, 000 in his NFL career. I think Derek Henry's at 12,000. Does that sound right? Yeah, he just went over 12,000, I think. Yes, Marvin. And Derek Cameron went to Alabama and Nick Saban said, Hey, 12,000 yards, you're still fourth string. Todd, what did you learn today? The player Phil Jackson most wishes he could have had an opportunity to coach Christian Leitner. Seaton, you've seen Sam Smith 30 years ago and we'll see him in another 30 years. Yes, when the Bulls win another title. Marvin, what'd you learn? Fresno State football is 6 and 3. Yeah, but lost to San Diego State, though, I believe. Paulie, what did you learn? Chuck Connors, poser. What did I learn? Todd? The jets keep building a foundation on top of a foundation. Not a great way to build a house, though. 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