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The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. I already have the odds to win the Stanley cup next year. DraftKings just sent those to me. Your Edmonton Oilers are the favorites to win it next year after not winning it the last two years. Followed by the Panthers. The stars in the Hurricanes are tied and then the Avalanche as well. Yes, Paul, we all are looking each other saying why not the Panthers. I'm not sure what moves that the Panthers have to make in the off season to keep everybody in place. I'm going to guess that's probably yes. Todd or is it as simple as what's the likelihood of them winning three in a row. It's got to be the second best team with a runner up will finally win next year. Okay, well I'm just giving you the odds right now. According to DraftKings, I also have the point spread for tomorrow night. Game 6 Thunder favored by 6 1/2 SGA the over under is 303 1/2. Tyrese Halliburton with the tender calf muscle over under 13 1/2 for him 8773 DP show email address DP danpatrick.com Twitter @DP Show Poll Question for the final hour of the program seat we got up there right now. Should Tyrese Halliburton play in game six? Yes or no. Oh absolutely. Yeah. Right now 77% of that the audience have that there is some thought to rest your calf for a game seven. If you could get there I would arrested him in game five to be healthy for game six. You can't have game seven unless you get game six. I got to make sure he's as healthy as possible and this is the kind of injury from what I'm told you would normally sit out if this happened during a regular season somebody would sit out a game or two. Well, it's the NBA finals but I also I want him out there because he wants to be out there and when he's healthy. He's great for us. But I don't want him out there where he's hurt or, and, or hurting us. And this is where Rick Carlisle I think made a tactical error. Don't have him out there. He might want to go out there. I mean not everybody is Willis Reed in 1970 during Wilt Chamberlain dragging yourself out there and you hit a couple of buckets. I mean it helped that Walt Frazier had 36 points and 19 assists or nobody cares about Willis Reed came out and scored two baskets. It's. What did you do when you were out there? Are you helping your team? And I don't think Tyrese Halliburton helped his team because TJ McConnell was playing so well. I would have stayed with that hot hand and the bench was playing really well and you could have won that game. But I can't have Ty. I mean I'm going to know early with Tyrese Halliburton I would think and if I'm okay, see I'm going to work him. I don't know who he's going to guard but I'm going to make sure that we work him at both ends of the floor. Yes. Marvin. Screen and rolls all day long. Yeah, yeah. Paul, to be contrarian here, what if Rick Carlisle thought to himself this might be the ultimate move or desperation move. You rest Halliburton for the Thursday night game. You let your second unit full speed ahead. If you steal that game. Now you have a guy on five days rest coming back to help you in a game seven and the pressure changes. Now the media is going to be all over him to say you have to win game six to get to game seven. You took a chance on not winning a game and therefore there is no game seven. I, I understand what you're saying but I, I think I would have had Tyrese Halliburton not play the second half in the previous game to be as healthy as possible for this game. Because once again if you don't win tonight, nobody cares about game seven. Scott in Florida. Hi Scott, thanks for holding. What's on your mind today? Good morning Dan. First time Midtime 59170 I have a take on the Panthers. I'm seek talk and then I have a family advice question for you too if you'll indulge me. Gotta give the Panthers their credit, you know in the finals the last three years in a row, two back to back titles. So they're dynastic. Love that word. Got it from you guys. But to that note you have to give the Lightning their credit, too. And you did, Dan. You've been good about pointing out their greatness in Florida as well. But Tampa Bay still owns hockey in Florida with three cups just outside the last two decades. The Pandas are tracking well to be there soon, but just saying Tampa Bay. All right, well, thank you, Scott. By the way, the thing that, you know, you talk to teams and you'll watch for trends. Who gets out early in hockey, who gets out early, who gets out early in baseball, basketball doesn't matter because it, you know, such a ebb and flow. You know, the point spread swings. The Panthers scored 13 first period goals in the Stanley Cup Final. They scored two or more goals in the first period in every single game. You can't come back from that. Like, you're constantly thinking about, we got to score, gotta score, gotta score. And Florida jumps on top. And then all of a sudden, you know, you're, you're playing from behind and it changes your game plan. How long you keep somebody on the ice, what is the game plan when they're on the ice, off the ice, all of those different things. Florida was just a unbelievably dominant team. And I still like what Steve Levy said in the first hour. It was a six game sweep. Yes, you had the first two games, three games that were interesting, but, man, these last three, Florida was a great team. A.J. in Cincinnati. Hi, A.J. what's on your mind today? LT1 61, 140 pounds. I'm just calling because I want to take your advice, your model advice. Fall in love, staying light. I want to wish my wife a 14. The sound's not very good, AJ so maybe try it again where you're not on a speakerphone. Jay in Michigan. Hi, Jay. What's on your mind today? Hey, D.P. how you doing? Great, Jay. Good, good. Dynasty talk goes. What about the Russian five for the Detroit Red Wings with, you know, Steve Iserman, the captain of my life type deal, and then Michigan just dominating Ryan Day. How is that? Okay? Ohio State dominated Michigan for a long time. Any excuse to bring it up? Yeah, yeah. Red Wings. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of dynasties. It's not that we're purposely missing them. We're just talking about some teams. And are they a dynasty? The Red Wings were a dynasty, but we were talking about San Francisco Giants. They would win a title, not make the playoffs, win a title, not make the playoffs, win a title. Is that a dynasty? Did the Patriots have two different bookend dynasties there? Yes, Mark. If the Chiefs don't win any more Super Bowls. Would they be considered a dynasty? It feels that way. The Chiefs are a hundred percent, 100% a dynasty. So win a Super bowl, you had to go through them. Also true. And they got two Super Bowls, right? Three. Three Super Bowls. That's it. Yeah. I mean, barely a dynasty, but definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. I mean, we're handing it out like, you know, Halloween candy now. You get a dynasty, and you get a dynasty, and you get a dynasty. All right, I'm fun. The bad boy Pistons. Dynasty. No. Okay. Just. Just throwing that out there, you know, they would argue otherwise. Yes, Paul. Yet the Chiefs losing two Super Bowls in the past five, six years actually helps them be a dynasty. It's like they're always in it. They won three, lost two, but that's. That's pure dynasty. That actually helps. Yeah, but the Bills lost four in a row. And nobody says that was a dynasty. No, no, not the losing. You have to have the winning first. But they did get there four consecutive years. Cry nesty, but three, three and two in six years. Theo in Syracuse. Hi, Theo. DP stole my thunder. 511. No. Soul and valor. 220. Twisted steel. Thank you, sir. You stole my thunder. Let's talk about Ms. Dynasties. The Bills being the epic example. Yeah, we've discussed. But I look at that, and in the old days before the super bowl, if the Buffalo Bills won four consecutive AFL titles, they would have been a dynasty. Before you had the afl, NFL playing the super bowl, you had teams that won AFL championships or NFL championships, Cleveland Browns won NFL championships. And you might look at them as a dynasty. They weren't playing against the AFL back then. Dan in Milwaukee. Hi, Dan. What's on your mind today? Second time caller. Love the show. Got a quick question. Pat Casey and the Oregon State Beavers, would you consider them a dynasty or would you consider Pat Casey the dynasty? Well, I did watch yesterday as Oregon State lost to Louisville. Yes, I know it was sad, but I was just looking like 2006, 2007, 2018, I think they took them to the. I don't know, the regionals the most through that span. Yeah, I mean, I didn't do a deep dive on it, but I did watch the game. Bases loaded, ninth inning, no outs. Oregon State is going to win. Reliever comes in, strike out, strike out. And then a little pop out and I go, you just lost. And then Louisville ended up getting a couple of base runners on, maybe loaded the bases as well. And then you got A sacrifice fly and ended up winning. You know, the. The Women's College World Series was awesome. Men's College World Series, awesome. Scott in Arizona. Hi, Scott. What's on your mind today? Good morning, Dan. The other day, when Brian Wilson passed away, I got to thinking, who would be on my Mount Rushmore of rock and roll? I came up with, well, Brian Wilson, of course, Bob Dylan and John Lennon, but I couldn't come up with a fourth. Do you guys have any ideas of who else would be up there with those four, with those three guys? Oh, I'd need time to think about that, but thank you, Scott. Way too many people to put up there. Yes, Marvin, because. Is he talking about songwriters, artists, Just in general? Well, those are all songwriters, if you think about it. Dylan, Lennon, Brian Wilson. But yeah, there are way too many people you could put in there. Yes. Mark is McCartney. Lennon like magic Bird. Yes. Yes. That. That's a. Two people for one slot. Yes. Yes. It's tough to not put Chuck Berry in that other spot. I mean, he's the godfather of rock and roll. Sure. That's the blueprint, right? Yeah. Yeah. You're always going to offend somebody if you go, okay, there's my Mount Rushmore. What about, you know, well, where do you think Chuck Berry got it? He got. Is Mozart. Was Mozart rock and roll. Before we even knew what rock and roll was. Emo. Really? It was kind of emo. Yeah. It's a little sensitive. But he wasn't a singer, songwriter. He just played piano. Sweepy bangs. And he was like, just don't know me. He died early. That's rock and roll. That is super. But he didn't die at 27. No, I think he was 35. I was gonna say, if he had started the trend of rock and rollers who died at 27. Because there's so many that died at 27. Imagine if Mozart was the first to do that. Tearing up Victorian hotel rooms. I heard some stories. No, he did. He was. He was kind of wild. Yeah, yeah. He was a rock and roll star. Like, back then, it was a big deal. Plus, you were playing in front of kings and queens, and if they didn't like how you played, you know, you'd probably see the guillotine. Like a beheading. Yeah. I think after a concert, like, instead of an encore, someone loses their head. Yeah. There will be no encore. There will be no encore. Mike in Georgia. Hi, Mike. What's on your mind today? Hey, Dan. Hey, Mike. I was talking dynasties. I was going to say the Braves, 15 pennants in a row, but they only made the world. They only won the World Series the one time. It's tricky with the Braves because we keep thinking, all right, you had three hall of Fame pitchers and you won one World Series. They should. They're in the. Should have been a dynasty. I'm going to give you credit that you're always there, but you're not all the way there. Yeah. More would you consider a great run but not a dynasty? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it was a great era, like the Bills. Great run. Yeah. But you only won one World Series, which it still seems mind boggling that you would have that talent and it could only win one. Let me see Joseph in Arkansas. Hi, Joe. What's on your mind today? Hey, Dan, Patrick, can you hear me? Yes, I can. Hey, buddy. Hey. Shout out to all you guys. I just wanted a quick second. You were going on about how the stations play the hits, and I really just wanted to shout you out on the fact of the Monday after the French Open conclusion, how that was the first thing you talked about. I've only been in the sport for probably three or four years now, so that was super cool for someone like you to address it, announce it, actually know what you're talking about. But on the flip side, the whole Fritzi thing with Gage Wood, he didn't swing the bat and you came at him like, hey, you got to play the game. You know, that's the whole ordeal. Like he went up there with the bat and he didn't swing. So it to me, that's not playing the game. It was bush league. He ruined the perfect game. Like I said. Thank you, guys. All right. Thank you, Joseph. There was a compliment in there. You get on base, that's all. Get on base. I don't care how. It's only three to nothing elimination game. You lean into a pitch or they'll allow you to lean into. Pitch or not. Get out of the way, get on base, get on this. When you take a walk. Not necessarily swinging the bat either. We don't have a problem with that. Is it bush league? Probably, but I, I don't. I'm at that point. I don't. I'm trying to win. I'm not here. I don't get style points if they go, yeah, you know, you guys did win, but, you know, he didn't try to get out of the way. I don't care, whatever it takes. And I don't think it was one of those where it's coming right at me. I'm just going to stay here stationary. You know, it was a breaking ball, but I whatever it takes to get on base. I will not be no hit. I will not let you get a perfect game. I don't care. You can criticize me all you want. I will not let you have that moment at my expense. All right, we'll take a break. More phone calls coming up. Back after this Dan Patrick show. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hi, Zoe Saldana. Welcome to T Mobile. Here's your new iPhone 16 Pro on us. Thanks. And here's my old phone to trade in. You don't need to trade in. 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All these and more now streaming with Hulu on Disney with a bundle subscription available with bundle plans starting at $10.99 a month. Terms apply. Visit disneyplus.com/hulu for details. More phone calls coming up. Paulie has a good idea, bad idea. Can you have individual dynasties? I brought this up earlier when LeBron went to what, eight consecutive NBA Finals? Is he. Because he's the common denominator. Is he a dynasty? Michael Phelps, Is he a dynasty? I'd say yes. Usain Bolt dynasty, Tiger woods dynasty, Jack Nicklaus dynasty tennis players. Dynasties like individual or at least it's dynastic. But you know, it's fun to talk about also to remember what people did, how long they did it for teams, how long they did it for consistency. What do you do in the years when you don't make the playoffs? You know, that's the knock on Jordan. If there is really a knockout. Well, what did you do in those other six years or aside from those six years? The other years when you didn't win a championship and Mike's not playing for a championship, he never lost one. So it was they were winning a title or they weren't. Whereas LeBron was getting to a championship and he wasn't winning as often as Michael was, but he got there far more often. And I think getting there, those teams, those players deserve far more credit than they get. Because it used to be with the super bowl, we'd be like, man, the Broncos are bums. They got blown out. Or the Bills lost again. You got that far. But then what happened on the grandest stage really affected how people remembered you. And I think we've done a disservice to the Buffalo Bills and the Minnesota Vikings and and it affects guys with their hall of Fame careers because we use the titles as sort of the here is what puts somebody over the top or you didn't win a title. This doesn't put you over the top. Yeah, Paulie. Okay, here's a question for the room. Would Michael Jordan's career be considered more Impressive or less impressive if he were 6 and 3 in the finals instead of 6, 0 in the finals. Less impressive. Even though he made it, got his team there three extra times, I would count it, but, you know, people don't see it. The way I see it. What LeBron did is incredible to get to the NBA Finals. Mike got there, and Mike won. Didn't even get to a seventh game. You know, for a long time, Joe Montana was the best quarterback because he went to four Super Bowls and never lost, never threw an interception. Well, what Brady did, you're getting to the Super Bowl, You're. You're winning, but you're also getting there. And I think that consistency of. You're at least in the conversation of winning a championship that year, and I think that we devalue that for some reason that you lost. Therefore, how can we give you credit? Yes, Todd? Like, if Brady went 3 and 7 to that point or 2 and 8, is Montana better than Brady? Like, what. How does that work? Yes, he would be. He would be viewed as better. Even though 10 Super Bowls to four. I'm just, you know, I know it's insane. This is. This is how we reckon. This is what LeBron was saying. Here's LeBr, his podcast with Steve Nash, talking about our obsession with championships. I don't know why I was discussed so much in our sport and why it's the a all. Be all of everything. You sit here and you tell me, you know, Allen Iverson and Charles Barkley and Steve Nash, you know, you know, wasn't unbelievable. Like, oh, they can't be talked about or discussed with these guys is because this guy won one ring or won two rings or one. Like, it's just. It's just weird to me. It's like saying Peyton Manning can't be in the same room with Brady or telling me that Dan Marino is not the greatest slinger of all time, or he can't be in a room with those guys because he didn't win a championship. They don't discuss those things. I still think this is a roundabout way of LeBron talking about, hey, I didn't win as many championships as Michael, but that doesn't mean I'm not the goat. You have an obsession with winning championships when it's about a lot more than just that. It's a lot more than one player. Maybe. Maybe I'm reading way too much into this, but it feels like. Felt like when I heard it, it's LeBron saying, I might end up with four. But look at what I did my entire career. And he's got a point. Like I can say. The best resume in the history of The NBA is LeBron James. Number of times he went to a championship, he won four titles. MVPs, all time leading scorer up there in all time leader and assist steals, all star performances, appearances still relevant, still playing well, still getting 25 a night. You're in your four. I mean, if I look at that, it's hard to argue with that. Now you can say, well, Bill Russell won those titles. He did. He. He was the linchpin. He was the guy on the greatest dynasty that. That we've seen in sports. He wasn't a great, you know, offensive player. He was just a great player. What do you need from me? That was so. It's different with that, because that's a team. The whole team went to the hall of Fame. Your coach, gm is maybe the greatest of all time. Pulled off some of the greatest trades in the history of the sport. Maybe the greatest trades in the history of the sport. But I think if you look at start to finish, living up to the hype, everything that he did, you can make it, you know, a worthy argument that he's the greatest of all time. But it'll come back to Mike. Never got to a seventh game. Mike won six titles. Mike took time off. If he had one game to win, who do you want, Michael or LeBron? You know, I. We've done this many, many, many times. But I think LeBron is getting at getting to a point of, I don't need six to be the greatest of all time. Raj in Chicago. Hey, Raj, what's on your mind today? Good morning, Mr. Patrick. Thank you for taking my call, as always. I'm not sure if anybody mentioned San Antonio Spurs. Do y' all consider them a dynasty? I mean, they won five chips in 15 years, but none of them were consecutive. They was always in. In competition for a title. But, you know, does anybody really look at them as, you know, a dynasty? Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, thank you, Raj. Yeah, I think so. I think we look at that spurs run as a dynasty. Yeah. Mark, especially when you have one player that's a constant, which was Tim Duncan, you can consider that a dynasty. If it was Tim Duncan for the first four championships and then somebody else, it might not be. But if there's a constant, then I consider a dynasty. Tom in North Carolina. Hi, Tom. What's on your mind today? Adp. I'm gonna take a twist on what Paulie was talking about earlier with actors as far as Dynasty, I'm gonna put it in like a movie category. Would you consider maybe Fast and Furious, Jason Bourne, the Mission Impossible movies? Are they dynastic? Sure, sure. I guess. Rocky, dynasty. Godfather. Dynasty. Two movies. Yeah. Godfather takes a big hit on Godfather 3. Yeah. But the sequel was better than the original. That only two. Yeah, yeah. Well, two really good ones. That would be like the Bulls. The Bulls. Second run of three titles people think was better than their first run of three titles. Evan in Texas. Hi, Evan. What's on your mind today? Hey, Dan, thanks for taking my call. 65250. Hey, I'm a podcast listener. So I heard the whole Todd sequence about the guy not getting out of the way from the pitch yesterday afternoon. So I wanted to just chime in a little bit. One of my favorite things about when Todd really gets on a roll is just being able to hear Marvin laughing out loud in the background through Todd's open mic. I think that that alone cements Todd is the king of comedy. Wow. Yeah. But Todd is really funny when he's not trying to be really funny. That's part of the problem for a guy who thought he was a stand up comedian. We've seen what happened on stage a few times. Yes, yes. Thank you, Evan. Yes, you are funny. But you've had, you know, Sandler said this. Will Ferrell, Will Ferrell said that Todd's really funny when he's not trying to be funny. If I can make people laugh, whether it's intended or not, that makes me feel great. And that's why you are the king of content is what you are. And our most valuable, Dan and Paulie has. Good idea, bad idea. Would you explain? All right, this is something I've been thinking about. I want the room to judge it. It's a two parter. It's one sports and one's pop culture. You guys know mtv. If you ever watch mtv, it's still a channel. I didn't even really know it was still a channel. Like, you could find it on your basic cable. So for the past five years, MTV has basically had on repeat this show called Ridiculousness. It's kind of a reality type show. It's horrible, by the way, and. But they've had it on. It's not funny nor inventive, but they've had it on repeat for years and years and years. The one main channel for MTV. What if MTV, which I think debuted August 1, 1981, what if on this August 1, they went back and started over and started playing day by day for the next 10 years. What MTV broadcast from 1981 to 1991 in real time like that August 1st day and just play it. Yeah. And all the old school MTV fans, the older crowd that loves it, could go back and watch what was the cool videos. The new shows even like shows like the Real World would start, but do that for the next 10 years and recapture that old audience. But you have to pay the artist if you're going to be airing their videos. I don't know. Because MTV has a separate channel that still shows some videos, but it's not on basic cable. Yeah. Say they had the rights and could just hit play and. Oh, I'm fine with that. Bring back, you know, have the old VJs. Yeah, I'm fine with that. Awesome. Yeah. Give me Alan Hunter again. Yeah. Martha Quinn. Martha Quinn. Yeah. Loved Alan Hunter. Yes. Yes. Marv, who are these people? This might be an age thing. It is. I was gonna say Carson Daly. I was like, who's Alan Hunter? That's Total Request Live. Wobble wobble wobba. Yeah. Oh, well. Paulie Short, the goat. Yes. Paul. So let's say that was an okay idea. How about this one as well? There is no ESPN Classic anymore. Correct. I think it's. It's gone. I think it's gone. Gone. What if every night around midnight or something like that, on one of the ESPN channels, they played in an hour long Sports center from 1982. 1986 on this almost like at this day in history. But they just said on this day we're going to play the June. What's the date today? The June 18, 1990 sports center. And you could tune in and watch it. What were the cool highlights? What were the cool interviews? And for the old school sports fans and the new school fans, they could learn about what was going on on that day? Yeah, I'm fine with that. All right. Yeah. As long as I get approval of my hair when I'm going to be on. Because there are a couple of. Couple of years where it's kind of rough, but yeah, it'd be fun. I like those ideas. Yeah, well, you came up with them. That's why I really. Yeah, you really like those ideas. But those are good. Those are fun. Yeah. Scott in Virginia. Hi, Scott. Hey, good morning. So a few things. First of all, I'm not a LeBron James fan, but I agree with them on this one. I don't understand the infatuation with championships specifically into getting in the hall of Fame. And you know, I'm a big baseball fan. And, you know, they don't talk about baseball players. Tony Gwynn, Rod Carew, how many championships they want to get in the hall of Fame. You can't elevate your entire team when there's, you know, in baseball, 32 players. Football, 80 some. Yeah, but it helps a pitcher. It helps when a pitcher has won big games in the World Series. Thank you, Scott. And you're right. We don't hold Bonds accountable for not winning. He was a great player. You know, how many World Series you know, did Stan Musial win, Ted Williams win, Babe Ruth win? Like, we kind of have an idea, but I don't know if it matters. But you do. You're elevated when you go. Kurt Schilling, playoffs, man. John Smoltz, playoffs. Andy Pettit, playoffs. Whitey Ford, playoffs. You're elevated if you're a pitcher because you can go out and win a game. Yes, Mark. Baseball was about numbers. I remember, 406 was Ted Williams, Willie Mays, 660, Babe Ruth, 714. Those were. That's what was important. Not the number of championships. I had no idea. Ted Williams never won a World Series. Yeah. Until maybe I just read it in a book somewhere. Yeah. So that wasn't important. It was just about the numbers. Yeah, definitely. Numbers driven. I don't know if we're trying to think, who do you hold accountable for not winning? I mean, Bonds, greatness, but he never won. And who else would be in that category? Hey, Jeter gets credit for winning. And granted, 3,000 hits will still get. I mean, he had far more than 3,000 hits, but that'll get you in the hall of Fame. But his, his status is elevated because he won and he was really good in the postseason. Yes. Mark, is there any players that are in the hall of Fame where you're like, if he didn't have that World Series championship, he might not be in. Oh, there's some guys who are in the hall of Fame, but it's a while ago where you're like, huh, that guy. Some of those old Yankees, probably, they're. They're. I just remember looking through and you're going, I don't remember him being a Hall of Famer. Yeah, Paulie. Yeah. It does feel like in. In football, it's clear cut. If you get a Super bowl, it's hard not to. As a quarterback. As a quarterback, you know, like, if Phil Rivers had one super bowl victory where he was mvp, we wouldn't even discuss him. Yeah. But Ladanian Tomlinson didn't win anything. Yeah. And nobody says, well, you never won anything. It's quarterbacks, quarterbacks, quarterbacks. And it feels like pitchers, or at least it used to be. Not anymore in baseball. But if you wanted, like it was held against Clayton Kershaw, he was going to be a Hall of Famer. But it's like Greg Maddox, not good in the postseason. Tom Glavin average in the postseason. John Smoltz. You get in the hall of Fame because you're a great postseason pitcher. Jack Morris probably got in the hall of Fame because he was a really good postseason pitcher. Yes. Mark, if Andy Pettigated didn't get busted for the PEDs, is he in the hall of Fame because he had a great postseason career? Probably so. And he pitched for the Yankees. Yes, probably so. But didn't he get popped twice? Yeah, Paulie. I think it's once for Pettit. And he jumped on the grenade. Remember after he got it, he jumped on and did the interview two days later and said, I was trying to get back. Yeah, but that. See, that's so phony. It didn't help his cause. No. So anybody who gets hurt, then you have a hall pass to use steroids to get back because you got to help your team. I mean, I get. Somebody gave him that advice and he's like, yeah, I'll just say I'm the ultimate team player. And I wanted to get back. Not so fast. Yes. Yes, Todd. Well, you could always misremember, like his teammate did. You could always play that card. They put it in my smoothie. I don't know what my trainer. Why would he put that in my. Thank God that we're. We're so past that. At least I hope we're past that. As a kid who might not kid anymore, but he played minor league baseball. And, And I told this story in greater detail. But when they knew that they were going to be tested, there was a shake that they could drink, and they would always test negative, and they'd get a heads up, and then, you know, you drink your shake. Because in the Miners, they were far more diligent of trying to, you know, keep the steroids out of getting to Major League Baseball. The commissioner, Bud Selig, said, I, I can test him in the minor leagues. I'm. I'm not going to be able to do it the same way in the major leagues. But this is a guy now, but he was a kid at the time, and he had a. He. They said they took this shake and it covered everything up. Yes. What was the name of that? Let's take a break. Last call for phone calls. Do you need a prescription? What we learned what's in store tomorrow right after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hi, Zoe Saldana. Welcome to T Mobile. Here's your new iPhone 16 Pro on us. 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There's some other I kid Adam Sandler about if they do grown ups 3, I'll go, didn't we answer all the questions in Grownups and grownups too. And he's like, no, I don't know, Danny. So like, all right, hey, if you want to have grownups 3 and you want to put me in, be more than happy on this date. In 2000, Tiger woods won his first US Open. He won by 15 shots over. No, no, that's the US Open. You won by 15 shots over everybody. They should have put Tiger alone on the leaderboard and then gone to the second page just out of respect for what he did. Nobody should be up there second. And it was Ernie Else and Miguel Angel Jimenez who is second in that U.S. open at Pebble Beach. Yes. Paul. I don't know if there's a sports comp for what Tiger did there to blow away the field of the other best people on earth. Katie Ledecky. Oh, but she's not swimming against everybody. Kind of is. Everyone had a chance to be in that pool, but not everybody is in that event. Yeah, but you know, the, the total Dom when you're finished and then they're, I mean, they're going to be done. It's going to take a few seconds. When you're dry. Yes. When you're driving home and they just finish. The dugout altercation between Reggie Jackson and Billy Martin in 1977. This is this is on national TV. Reggie fails to hustle to catch a fly ball, comes into the dugout, and Billy Martin is waiting for him, the manager of the Yankees. And Billy would have fought him. I mean, he probably would have gotten crushed by Reggie. But imagine if that would happen now. Like, Juan Soto comes in, doesn't hustle. Well, that can actually happen. I don't know if any. Like, we're not such sticklers of running hard anymore, you know? Ah, you got to it. You know, you tried kind of. I don't know if we're. We're benching somebody. Let me see. Jeff in Washington. Hi, Jeff. What's on your mind today? Morning, Dan. Dan, that's first time and very long time. Six feet, about 210. Senior citizen, 210. Okay. So I wanted to talk. Wanted to talk to you, Dan, about your comments about LeBron. So one of the guys. One of the things I shared with the guys at the back room were that without hearing the context of the conversation or what the question might have been, because I am respectfully in opposition to what your thoughts are in that I believe that it just has to do with, you know, why guys that haven't won championships shouldn't be in the hall of Fame. Barkley, Nash. But they are. They are in the hall of Fame, both Nash and Barkley. So. But. But the pedestal. The pedestal that they're held to. Dan Marino is in the hall of Fame. Allen Iverson's. Everybody mentions in the hall of Fame. They've all been recognized for their greatness. Okay, I got you. I stand corrected on my apologies. And thanks for taking my call, Dan. Appreciate it. No worries, Jeff. Once again, these guys were all recognized as among the greatest, you know, at their positions, in their sports. That's why I don't know exactly what LeBron is saying. Yeah, they didn't win a title. Okay. It felt like he's saying, I won't catch Michael. Let's look at everything I've done. Why can't I be the greatest of all time? This is just my opinion, and I don't know the context other than what he said. The first thing that struck me is LeBron thinks he's the greatest of all time. He does, and he should. I just. He's. He's still trying to convince the Jordan purist. Hey, look at this differently. I think that's what he's asking. That's just my opinion. Todd, call for LeBron. Why not? Okay. James in Virginia. Hi, James. What's on your mind today? Oh, thank you. For taking my call, brother. Happy Wednesday. DP Dan X Man Salute the commanders. And speaking of the commanders, the then Washington Redskins. Hail to the Redskins. My favorite dynasty of all time between 82, 91, 5 NFC championships, 4 Super Bowl, 3 Super bowl rings and you were right, Theisman Ripken. But it was Doug Williams in the 87 Super bowl against the Denver Broncos with the greatest quarter of all time, 35 points and 17 plays. What a game, man. Too bad I was only four. I couldn't watch it like that. I'll give a little pushback if you win three out of five. If the goal is to win championships, the San Francisco Giants are definitely a dynasty. 2 comments Real quick, is LeBron James a dynasty just by himself? LeBron James 9 straight finals, 3 titles and all are very good. Michael Vick Hate to throw it on you in the last five minutes, but is Michael Vick all a very good yeah, yeah, he's not. Not a Hall of Famer if I include college and pros, but they don't do that with the NFL. Yes, Paul, he unfortunately his first ballot of hall of should have done a lot more. Yes, I think we look at him as a disappointment. Not like Stephen A. Said that Giannis, if he doesn't win another title, will be an underachiever. What? Really? You think you'd be an underachiever? Did you see him when he first got to the NBA? Came out of nowhere. He's one of the great stories in NBA history. Yeah, what'd he do with it? He won two MVPs and a title, and that would leave Giannis with a solitaire ring. Todd, what did I learn today? Iman Shumpert said the scouting report on Kobe was good luck trying to stop him. A lot of fun today. Thanks for joining us. We look forward to trying to entertain you tomorrow. For Fritzi Seaton, Marv Paulie, yours truly, this has been the Dan Patrick Show. Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and safeway. Now through July 15th. Stock up on all your favorite personal care brands and earn four times points to use later purchases for discounts on groceries or gas. Shop in store or online for items like Pantene Shampoo, Old Spice, Total Body Deodorant, Tampax Pearl Venus Razors, Head and Shoulder Shampoo, Olay Body Wash and Pantene conditioner and earn four times points. Hurry before these deals are gone. Offer ends July 15th. 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