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Dan Patrick
Are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. I love audience participation, audience engagement, but this fight would be over. Todd is going to die on this hill. If he's going to stay in the left lane, he's not moving over. Even though it's called the passing lane. And social media is not being kind to Todd.
Todd
I'm gonna start losing followers. I'm gonna be like non existent in the world. What am I gonna do? I gotta get more likes. I'm gonna change my opinion.
Dan Patrick
You're only gonna lose five. You know that.
Todd
Happening to my brand.
Dan Patrick
Okay. Why can't you admit? All right, maybe I need to change my driving style.
Todd
I'll give it some thought. I just did. I'm going to stay at the left lane to let them go around.
Dan Patrick
Yes.
Professor Wesley Marshall
Paul Todd does not believe that it's more dangerous when a fast car passes on the right on a three lane highway and goes into the middle lane.
Todd
That's a problem right there. A fast car, if you're going at normal speed, it shouldn't be that dangerous to move around.
Professor Wesley Marshall
I wish a policeman or someone who knows about traffic rules would call and explain.
Dan Patrick
I don't even think we need a police officer to call in. I think it's just common sense. Let's just get out of the passing lane. Just move over.
Todd
I like to go 100. Too bad. Get out of my way.
Dan Patrick
Well, now it's 100.
Todd
If I'm going 75 and they're on my tail there, to me they're going at least 85.
Dan Patrick
Yes, that's too fast.
Paulie
It's one someone just said on social media, fire him immediately.
Todd
That seemed a little harsh. Livelihood.
Paulie
I had a friend too that just said I actually hate him for this.
Todd
So passionate. God bless them. They pass good or bad. If even if they're not taking my side the passion. That's what we like.
Dan Patrick
This has made me dislike Fritzi forever. He's the worst type of driver out there. There is little I love more than when Fritzi argues for himself when he's clearly wrong.
Todd
I just blocked him on Instagram.
Dan Patrick
Todd, stop impeding traffic, exclamation point. Todd is incorrect. Just like the sign John Elway's dad and Vince Lombardi had on their desk. Lead, follow or get the F out of the way.
Todd
Wow. How am I going to be a social media influencer now? What's going to become of me?
Dan Patrick
I don't think you ever were social media influencer.
Todd
I'm saying, how will I ever become one?
Paulie
This is a funny turn to take this weird influencer defense now.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I don't know. Just. Or.
Paulie
Or he could just move from the left lane to the middle lane.
Dan Patrick
How about. Or that? Yeah. When it comes to discussing something. Can you just pick a lane, Todd? Like, pick a lane?
Todd
The middle lane is right. That's where they need to go.
Dan Patrick
You've been all over the highway here, all over the highway, how fast somebody's going. Next thing you know, you're racing through. Plowing through a CVS. There's a grandma going 30 miles an hour. Now it's social media.
Todd
Like, how is going 75, left lane blocking the person behind me? How am I inconveniencing them? How is. Why is that such a horrible thing? I'm going faster than I'm supposed to be going already by, like, double digits. I could get a ticket for that.
Dan Patrick
Should you be going 10 miles over the speed limit to begin with?
Todd
But now I'm forced to go even faster because this person's about to crash into my bumper. Now I gotta go to 80.
Dan Patrick
Todd, you can get in the right.
Todd
Lane, and he can go to the middle lane from the left lane, too.
Dan Patrick
Oh, my God. Yes.
Paulie
That's the thing that I can't put my finger on just yet, is why, if Todd is upset that that person is in such a rush that they, you know, they want to get by him and just go around me or whatever. But why is Todd's. Todd is so important that he gets to stay in that lane, but that other person is less important than Todd? Whatever they have going on can't be as important as whatever Todd has going on because he gets to stay in that one lane. I don't understand that part of it.
Todd
I don't look at it as an important thing. It's more of a. If anything, it's a stubborn thing. It's like I'm already going plenty fast. And maybe I shouldn't be arbitrarily deciding what's fast. Understand that argument. But I'm already going what I would consider very fast in the left lane. And it's still not fast enough for this person behind me. I'm not trying to hold anybody up or like I'm better than you to. You know. Haha. I'm making you. You're stuck behind me because there's no way for you to get around me for the next several months. You're literally stuck. There's nothing you can do.
Dan Patrick
There's a psychology attached to this. With you there. There really is. You don't want to be told. Just like whenever we bring up something and we can be a hundred percent right, you'll never go. You know what? You're right. You'll. You'll change the argument.
Todd
I'll say I appreciate your point. I'll go that far.
Dan Patrick
I know. But you never stay on the topic. You move it. Now all of a sudden we're talking about other things.
Todd
It's hard for me to change my opinion. And then I will throw out things that have nothing to do with the argument.
Dan Patrick
I know.
Todd
Hoping that'll somehow get through.
Dan Patrick
I know. And then I always bring it back to what? The argument.
Todd
But again, it doesn't. I'm not. It's not meant to be an arrogant thing.
Dan Patrick
And if it's proceeding, it is. You don't want to be told what to do.
Todd
This person's trying to tell me what to do. He's trying to make me go even faster. So I'm being. He's telling me what to do by driving.
Dan Patrick
If somebody is not driving safely, I'm going to move out of the way and let them do what they.
Todd
Yeah, but how is that person not telling me what to do if he's on my. He or she's on my bumper? That's. They're telling me you better go faster or get out of my way. So they're telling me what to do.
Dan Patrick
Do you want to fight or be safe?
Todd
I would like to be safe.
Dan Patrick
Okay, then move over.
Todd
But I think both people are in the right or wrong in that situation. I can go faster than ever to keep up with the speed that this person wants me to go. Or they can just go around me for a second, risk everyone's lives going to the middle lane.
Dan Patrick
Yes.
Paulie
We just got our first mock headline. Assing lane refuses to move over.
Dan Patrick
Yes. Marvin. Oh my God.
Todd
And Fritzi won. Headlines against me. Like assing lane. And Fritz, he wants people to explain why they're going so fast. Like, oh, somebody's having a baby. Or if, you know there's an ambulance, they have to explain.
Dan Hurley
Who in the Rudy blue hell are.
Todd
You that they need to explain why they're going so fast? And you're in the. It's called the passing lane for a reason. It's not the drag strip lane. Or. I just. I just. I don't know. I just. I find it, you know, this person's also trying to dictate how fast I go by almost crashing by riding my bumper.
Dan Patrick
Todd.
Todd
Well, how is that person absolved from everything and I'm the bad guy?
Dan Patrick
How do you not just fold your tent?
Todd
Because I can't. Because I'm. I'm not. If I was going 40, 50, whatever, then I could see, like, what are you holding everybody up? This is the lane where everyone goes faster than the middle lane and right lane. I'm going beyond the speed limit and still not good enough. This person's on my tail. Like, I'm holding everybody up. So how.
Dan Patrick
That person's being the arrogant final hour of the program. We'll talk to Dan Hurley. He will join us at a memoir coming up.
Todd
Fire him. Block him. Throw him to the wolves, for crying out loud.
Dan Patrick
Just move over. That's all. Just move over. It's okay. You can get back in the left lane if you want.
Todd
I want them to move over so I can see what this idiot looks like that's in a big hurry.
Dan Patrick
Well, if you move over to the right, then you can see him as they go by.
Todd
Yeah, but I want to get that win. I was at the game of chicken. I. You had to move. I didn't move. You thought I was going to move. But you changed.
Dan Patrick
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Caller
They call me Padre Dante. Five five, nine. A California burrito. 172.
Dan Patrick
Hey.
Caller
Just want to circle back to the baseball rules. Spritzy. I'm gonna get to you. Hey. For the playoffs. I've always thought about this. Why don't they turn off the pitch Cl Start the seventh inning? Because we love the excitement, the anticipation between a pitcher and a batter when it's supposed to play the game, the crowds getting wild. So that's just my proposal. Like to hear what you think. Dan. Fritzi. Mamma mia. You are the problem. Just get over, you blockhead. You're probably the guy that still at the ice cream store that still requests to try the flavor of vanilla.
Todd
So me and this person behind me, we're absolved from any kind of speeding ticket, I would think, because it's all about, you know, the safety and the passing lane. So If I'm going 80 and the person behind me is going 90, the police would just wink at that.
Dan Patrick
They can't go 90 behind you if you're going 80, Todd.
Todd
They can't if we're both going over the speed limit. I would think based in this scenario, like, neither one of us is doing anything wrong. This person's just trying to get past me and I'm camping in the lane. So, like, you know, just. Just let them go. One's going 80, one's going 90, and that's the way it goes.
Paulie
Or you could just move over and go about your day and drive exactly as fast as you want.
Todd
Someone said the same thing that, that seems that explicitly prohibits left lane camping and requires drivers to use the left lane only for passing, preparing for a left lane exit, or when necessary, due to obstructions or traffic congestion. The goal is to reduce crashes.
Dan Patrick
Yes.
Todd
And improve traffic.
Dan Patrick
That's what we've been saying for 20 minutes.
Paulie
Reduce crashes and improve traffic.
Todd
So why is there a speed limit then? If it's all about like.
Dan Patrick
Why don't you move to Germany and you got the auto.
Todd
You're all basically saying, go as fast as you want in the left lane. That's that' minus four. Go 100. Go to 150. Go as fast as you have to go.
Dan Patrick
This is, this is where you sound real.
Todd
If I'm going 130 and the person behind me wants to go 150, I'm supposed to get out of there.
Dan Patrick
So now it's 150.
Todd
Whatever. It's above the speed. It doesn't matter what the number is. It could be 66, it could be 102. We're breaking the law. We're both speeding.
Professor Wesley Marshall
Yeah, Paul, in, in our state, it's different in all states, but it's actually illegal to pass in the right lane or on the right, and you'd be charged with reckless driving. So Todd's forcing a situation. Todd won't admit that there's an etiquette during driving that we all somewhat, you know, subscribe to. And by doing this, he's messing up the etiquette for everyone else and putting others in danger. While knowing this, he told us in the break, he's not changing how he drives.
Todd
I would ask the congressman. I would defer to the congressman. What is the camping speed? And can you go pretty much as fast as you want in the left lane?
Dan Patrick
Do you realize you're putting people in danger?
Todd
That's not the intention.
Dan Patrick
No, but it doesn't feel like. It's not what I said.
Todd
The person behind me is putting me in danger.
Dan Patrick
I'm asking you, do you realize you're putting.
Todd
I guess I don't.
Dan Patrick
Yes or no?
Todd
I don't realize. I know that this person behind me is about to cause an accident.
Dan Patrick
Are you putting people in danger? Camping in the left leg. Yes or no?
Todd
I don't feel like I'm gonna say no. I don't feel like I'm putting anybody in danger. And I want to know what camping means. That's a very convenient, vague term that leagues get away with with their rules, and so does, I guess, the Department of Transportation. Camping?
Dan Patrick
What camp is that? What we're.
Todd
What is the camping like? Like, I parked and I set up a tent trying to get Duke tickets outside. You know, that's ridiculous.
Dan Patrick
Once again, let's change. You move the goal line, goal post.
Todd
Like camping makes it sound like you just, you know, you're going to make some. Take out your marshmallows out and you just kind of pulled over and blocking again.
Dan Patrick
We got to change terrible terms.
Paulie
Goodness.
Todd
Great. Camping. Left lane. Camping. What a ridiculous phrase.
Dan Patrick
You're going to lead me to an early grave. You're welcome.
Todd
I'm not trying to aggravate anybody.
Paulie
Main character syndrome is off the charts.
Todd
Guy behind me is an extra.
Dan Patrick
Once again, when you show up at my wake and you run into my wife, I want you to say, I'm sorry I did this to him. Okay.
Todd
Should I be running in the left lane? Are you gonna have, like, lane set up so we can get the point across?
Dan Patrick
Oh, okay. So now I don't want to be camping. My death is funny.
Todd
I don't want to be camping out during the service. Other people trying to get to their seats and pay respect. And there I am, camping out. Not running fast enough to my seat. That'd be terrible to do that.
Dan Patrick
You can't run.
Todd
I can't?
Dan Patrick
No. I have to plant a fashion once again. Gonna make fun of me dying.
Todd
Someone needs to call in, like Paulie said, and set this straight. And I. I urge them to explain what left lane camping means. What? That's.
Dan Patrick
Polly, would you just find somebody?
Professor Wesley Marshall
I'll find an expert who knows.
Todd
And is it Safe to ride someone's bumper in the left lane because they're not going that many miles past the.
Dan Patrick
What's the poll question for the final hour of the program? Seaton.
Paulie
I'll just rip up everything.
Dan Patrick
I mean, I feel bad for Dan Hurley coming on to talk about his memoir.
Paulie
You know, I gotta tell you, that's a guy. I want to know exactly what his driving habits are. If there was ever road rage personified, I feel like it might be Coach.
Dan Patrick
How do you feel about somebody who won't move over? Is that my first question?
Paulie
Exactly what I want to know from him. Are you kidding me?
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Todd
Oh, man.
Dan Patrick
That's exactly right. Coach, how do you feel about somebody camping in the left lane on the highway?
Paulie
He's got. He's got the Jersey part of it. He's got Connecticut.
Todd
He's.
Paulie
That's a fellow who understands frustrated driving.
Dan Patrick
Aaron in Fort Wayne. Hi, Aaron.
Caller
Hey, Dan. Thanks for taking my call. My grandpa drove like this and all the way from Fort Wayne to New Smyrna Beach. You know, you're talking about the subtle middle finger. You get a lot of really aggressive middle fingers when you're going 72 in the left lane all the way to New Smyrna Beach.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Todd's not changing. George in Arizona. Hi, George.
Caller
Hi, Dan. Dan, good morning. I think what Todd also fails to realize is he not only puts people in danger as he went right, he puts himself at great risk of serious injury or death. Because I don't know if he's ever been rear ended by a person driving 90 miles an hour in the left lane that could force him into the middle barrier. There's nothing left to his car. I've seen that happen here in Arizona too many times. He's really, really rethink that position. Same with his ride with his family. Why put your family at risk of that?
Dan Patrick
All right, thank you, George. Have we exhausted this topic? We good?
Todd
I think we're just scratching the surface.
Dan Patrick
No, we're not. No, no, we're not.
Paulie
I feel like we really have to get Coach's thoughts.
Dan Patrick
All right, I will. I will see.
Paulie
I see why we may have exhausted.
Todd
My problem, I guess is one of many is I never realized how dangerous it is to go from the left lane to the middle lane.
Dan Patrick
But now that you do, are you changing?
Todd
No, because I don't believe that that is such a crazy, dangerous move to go around because I'm not going as fast as you'd like me to go. That. That can't be that horribly complicated. And Dangerous. A move to go from the left lane to the middle lane. That means you're stuck in the left lane forever until there's a left exit to get off. You just got to stuck there like you're on a.
Dan Patrick
Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, I apologize. Or you're listening on our radio affiliates around the country. I apologize as well. The tweets are coming in fast and free. And for the most part, Todd's doesn't have any friends. Although here's somebody that Todd just sent me. Yeah, of course. I said, funny you. Yeah, I'm totally with Fritzi. 100% with him. The ass tailgating. Ask him to go around. 100 bucks. Say they drive a truck going 10 miles over the speed limit. Camping the pickup truck.
Todd
Very busy getting the logs in. I got to go. I got to go. I got to get there.
Dan Patrick
If I'm already going above the speed limit and you want to go even faster than go around me. These unwritten rules are lame. So sorry.
Paulie
Was the example Todd just gave a logging truck tailgating him?
Dan Patrick
He just said, oh, yes, a truck.
Paulie
I have to get these logs in.
Todd
Pickup truck. I think of logging.
Paulie
So it's a logging truck that goes 90 miles an hour in Connecticut, of all places.
Todd
Small in the bottom half of your body. And I gotta get the pickup truck.
Dan Patrick
It's amazing.
Todd
Gotta compensate somewhere.
Dan Patrick
What size logs are you gonna put in a pickup truck?
Todd
Macho pickup truck. Gotta go really fast in the left lane.
Dan Patrick
Paulie drives a truck.
Todd
I'm not naming names.
Paulie
I'm just saying that they're also a huge logger. Everybody knows that.
Dan Patrick
No, no. It's a logger drinking. Yeah. I got lager in the back here.
Todd
Pickup truck guy. Yeah.
Dan Patrick
Vlogging. What are we in?
Paulie
I would concur, though, that pickup truck guy is the most terrifying driver currently.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, that's why I move over.
Todd
Except for motorcycle tattoo guy with his, you know, big lady friend with the tattoos on the back seat. Oh, motorcycle guy. Let's go meet up and hang out. Get some.
Dan Patrick
Yes. Paul.
Professor Wesley Marshall
Or the guys with the fast and the furious cars, like the Honda Civic with the 1200 muffler.
Dan Patrick
All right, let's take a break here. It's exhausting.
Todd
Let's rally.
Dan Patrick
All right.
Paulie
What a world.
Todd
No.
Paulie
Shout out to public transportation.
Todd
Yeah. Let the bus drivers in the cabs deal with it.
Paulie
I'm a light rail people.
Dan Patrick
Yo.
Paulie
Shout out to you guys.
Dan Patrick
A light rail person.
Paulie
All right.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Let's go. We're gonna take a break here.
Paulie
MTA yeah, get on the subway.
Todd
You don't got to worry about the left lane.
Dan Patrick
Take a break here. Take a break. We're back after this Dan Patrick show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, we're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day, 5 to 7pm Eastern.
John Middelkoff
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Dan Patrick
We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to.
Covino
And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show. We never get to everything, honestly, because this guy is over promising things we never have time for.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, you blubberlips. Blaming me. Well, you know what it's called? Over Promise. You should be good at it because you've been over promising women for years.
Covino
Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're gonna be talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time, it will continue on our after show called Over Promised.
Dan Patrick
Well, if you don't get enough Covino and Rich, make sure you check out Over Promised and also uncensored, by the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's gonna be the best after show podcast of all time.
Covino
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Caller
How you doing? Good morning, Dan. Dan, it's pleasure talking to you guys. First time caller, longtime listener coming in 6, 3, 2, 25. I'm a thousand percent back at 50 in this argument. This is one of those. Tell me you've never driven in California without telling me you've never driven in California. If you're already doing 10 miles over the speed limit and somebody's in such a hurry, they can, they can race around me, I don't care. Find your time. It's way more dangerous to be speeding 15, 20 miles an hour over the speed limit and pass somebody. Plus we call those people pacesetters. The cops are going to catch them before they catch us. And it's better them than us when they get pulled over for speed.
Dan Patrick
All right, all right, Scott, you and Fritzi in the same lane there.
Todd
That was 212 to 3.
Dan Patrick
Dan Hurley, he's got a new memoir, Never Stop Life Leadership and what it takes to be great. Before we get to the book, do you want to weigh on in the. On this topic of driving in the fast lane? What kind of driver are you?
Dan Hurley
I mean, it would probably, you know, surprise people, but I'm actually pretty calm driver. You know, my wife drives like a Jersey person. You know, I listen, I'm. You should not be driving, you know, 5 or 10 miles per hour below the speed limit in the left lane. Like left, left, furthest lane, slow drivers. I, you know, they're very Frustrating. I would say my biggest frustration is, like, when you're getting off an exit and there's a backup, when you're getting off on an exit and people cut you, you know, where you've waited in traffic to get off an exit and people drive, you know, drive past that congestion and then cross over at the last second and don't sit and wait the 10 minutes to get off the exit.
Dan Patrick
Have you been flipped off a lot?
Dan Hurley
Yeah, Yeah, a lot.
Dan Patrick
I'm more of a.
Dan Hurley
But I'm not a flip off person. I think it aggravates people more when you kind of. When you give them a thumbs up, like, hey, great job. You're good. Like.
Dan Patrick
All right, so you're writing a memoir here. And by the way, next Wednesday, October 1st, you can celebrate the publication of the new book. It'll be on campus, the Jorgensen center for performing arts. $40 for adults, 35 for UConn students. All tickets, general admission. What was the biggest challenge of being vulnerable in this book?
Dan Hurley
Yeah, I would say, you know, for, you know, for me, Dan, it was probably like reliving, like reliving some of the tougher parts of your life. You know, you end up reading the manuscript, you know, eight or nine times and you make some subtle changes or some bigger changes with wording or what have you. But when you're reading those tough parts of your life, whether it's, you know, just my experience as a player in college, dealing with, you know, some severe, you know, mental health issues, serious depression, you know, the tough parts of your career and your family life, like being, you know, being a young husband and a young father and dealing with, you know, career adversity and financial struggles, I think, like, you know, when you're, when you're working on the project and you're like, reading those tough parts about your life and rereading them and rereading them and rereading them, you know, it became a little bit uncomfortable. It was almost like I was re experiencing that again.
Dan Patrick
Your brother's one of the great point guards in college basketball history, but you felt the brunt of that. It felt like because you weren't Bobby Hurley. How do you address that, that stress level being mocked and, you know, how that factored in with depression?
Dan Hurley
Yeah. I think for me, you know, this book was, you know, an opportunity, you know, to. To reach people that, you know, suffer. You know, for me, you know, I've had an unhealthy relationship, you know, with perfectionism, a lot of, you know, I'm ob. I'M filled with insecurity, which is at times really a positive thing to keep you striving, but at times, like fear of failure, insecurity, an unhealthy relationship with perfectionism. And I think the thing that caused me the most suffering, really throughout my life, my playing career, and then when I became a coach, was the comparison trap. You know, that comparison game that you play with yourself, you know, relative to others, is something that, you know, became torturous for me as a player, you know, with my brother and then as a young coach, you know, with, with my dad.
Dan Patrick
Are you satisfied? Can you be satisfied?
Dan Hurley
No. Never? I don't think so. Not, not the way I'm wired. I, I think, you know, for, you know, for me it's, it's embedded, you know, the standard, the drive, you know, just, you know, the household you grow up in, you know, your, your own competitive fire, you know, that's a byproduct of where you grew up, how you were raised, the mentality you've developed, the place that you coach at. Like when you choose to coach at a place like UConn and coach the basketball team here, you know, there's a constant pressure to, you know, to deliver, you know, externally. But, you know, when that internal drive, you know, begins, when I start accepting losing, or when I'm not devastated by a season like last year, then, you know, it'll be time for me to get out.
Dan Patrick
How close did you come to leaving college basketball recently?
Dan Hurley
I would say for two or three days. Like I, I was, you know, I had pretty extensive conversations, you know, with my guy, Jordan Bazan, you know, over at Fox for a couple days. And yeah, I mean, it was, it was, it was like the perfect storm of things, you know, the sport itself, not, not having any idea what the rules of your game are going to be. You know, relative to, you know, we're hearing rumors that there's going to be potentially a 50 year for players, you know, so you've got, you know, nil, where you have no idea what the market is right now. You have this or the players could now be getting five years, you know, potentially five years to play. Five. You know, there's been no restrictions relative to the portal. It's still free agency at the end of every year. And then you put on top of that for me. You know, you go back to back. Those seasons are longer, so there's a little bit of a, you know, success fatigue. You know, the Lakers, things happens. So your ego is at an all time high. Then you Have a horrible season, and then you take the criticism throughout the year that, you know, and a lot of times it's justified. And so it's like the perfect store with stuff.
Dan Patrick
He's Dan Hurley. The book is Never Stop Life, Leadership and what It Takes to Be Great. And he co wrote this with great writer Ian o'. Connor. Do you have imposter syndrome?
Dan Hurley
Yeah, I mean, imposter syndrome. Insecurity. Absolutely. Insecurity. You know, there's definitely a feeling that's been pretty embedded in me, you know, that I'm never quite good enough. But it's not just relative to basketball. You know, I also feel that way, you know, as a husband, as a father, in other aspects of my life. You know, I just have this, you know, mindset where I feel like I can always do more. I can always be better. And one of the first things that Coach Calhoun told me when I got the job here, you know, besides get your ass in gear, get this program fixed, was like, you know, the best coaches have a. Have a. Have a level of insecurity about them. That's a. That's a real driver to continue to get better and. And always be prepared.
Dan Patrick
What's the difference between coaching intense or coaching angry?
Dan Hurley
Well, I think I coached intense and in 2024, and I coached angry. You know, what.
Todd
What.
Dan Hurley
You know, like, it's. For me, I think, in my life, I've done probably, you know, and, you know, two. Two or three things could be true about any. Any. Any one thing. But I would say for me, I got really. I got really good at handling, you know, failure or struggle in my. In my career and in my life in basketball. And I would say that what I've reflected a lot during the course of the season and the off season was just how I handled the success and how I didn't have the season as a coach in 25, you know, and I think that, you know, I'll be a much better coach in 26 because I don't, you know, I don't think I handled the success, you know, and where we were as a program very well last season.
Dan Patrick
How dark did the days get for you? Whether it's when you were playing, when you left playing.
Dan Hurley
Yeah, you know, dark to the point where, you know, you. You give serious consideration, you know, to doing something to harm yourself, you know, potentially do something to, you know, to end things, to take your life. Just feeling like, you know, back then, it was not. There was a stigma around. Around mental health and being vulnerable and opening up, especially for men, especially for men, with other men, about your feelings. So with your fathers, with your coaches back then, you know, you didn't feel like there was anyone that you could talk to about how you're feeling, your struggles, your difficulties, your suffering. And for me, it was, you know, getting into therapy, meeting Sister Catherine Waters at Seaton hall, you know, really changed my life.
Dan Patrick
Are you built for this?
Dan Hurley
For going on the show? I'm definitely built for it.
Dan Patrick
I've watched you forever coaching 10 more years, Danny. Are you. Are you built for 10 more years?
Dan Hurley
I don't know about 10. I don't really. You know, I think that sometimes I'll say, I'm going to coach till I'm 60. Or, you know, I'm going to. I'm going to coach. You know, just my 59th year. I mean, I would like to enjoy, you know, a part of my life where I have some vitality, some health, because I love my wife. I want to. And I want my wife and my family to experience life outside of basketball where you could travel and be more of a civilian, live a more normal life, have a normal Christmas holiday and a new year. So I'm like. I feel like I'm always playing on New Year's or New Year's Eve, and I feel like I always got a pit in my stomach on Christmas Eve or what have you. But then the other aspect of it for me is, like, when you're in the sports world, whether you're a player or you're a coach and you're making the type of money that we're making, I just feel like you have an obligation to literally push yourself to the point of burnout. For the seven or eight million dollars a year that they pay me to coach UConn, I should work myself close to death for that, to make that type of living, to be a basketball coach, or if you're an NBA player or an NFL player making 20, 30, $40 million a year, the last thing you should be thinking about is longevity. What you should be thinking about for me, for the way I look at it, is pushing yourself to the absolute max until burnout hits. And then you obviously, at that point, then you could retire. You know, I grew up, you know, the coaches like Dick Vermeil, you know, were the coaches that I idolize.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but you gotta have quality. That has to be balance.
Dan Hurley
I've got that ahead of me, you know.
Dan Patrick
No, no, you need it. You need. Trust me, I did not have balance when I did SportsCenter, and it was less Stressful by far than what you're going through. And until I found some kind of balance, I didn't enjoy it.
Todd
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
And I don't know if you enjoy those two championships as much as you probably should have, you know, the highest of highs. You're probably, you know, fixated on what happened last season. And, and you know, that's. You gotta have balance, man. You gotta.
Dan Hurley
It's. Listen, you enjoy. I mean, the, the like when you realize you've won the championship, there's a. There's an inhalation and an indescribable feeling of joy and love, you know, that. That reaches you like the deepest parts of your soul. And this incredible realization of this. Of climbing Mount Everest and being at the top, it does. It dissipates so quickly.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Dan Hurley
But you know, Dan, I think with just the way that I'm wired and I think a lot of, I think, you know, a lot of the best coaches and the people like my dad that I've modeled, it's like the season feels a lot like suffering and relief, suffering and relief, suffering and release. And then it either ends in elation or it ends the way it ended for me in Florida versus Florida. And then there's the tunnel and there's the sore loser Dan.
Dan Patrick
Do you think back on that at all? What, you know, sore loser Dan?
Dan Hurley
I do.
Dan Patrick
I know you address it, but, you know, where did that come from? Where, you know, well, maybe it's just the competitor in you.
Dan Hurley
It is. And I think again, like, you know, I think a couple things could be true. I gotta get better that way, you know, like, that's something that, trust me, when it's over, you know, and, you know, I lack that self control and an awareness to be able to just walk away, you know, like. Yeah, I mean, that's disappointing. You know, I end up, you know, tarnishing my reputation and you know, like, you know, it's embarrassing and it's not a positive thing, but it's also too. A lot of, you know, my superpower that I bring to the organization is this relentless competitive drive that my teams embody. And I do think in sports you do need more. More of the characters that go, I think, kind of life or death urgency with, with winning and losing, I think is what makes sports great. So I think you, you know, not having characters that, that look at games that, you know, I don't look at it like a game, I look at it like a battle, a fight. It's not a game for me.
Dan Patrick
Your voice sounds like it's in mid season form. Does it ever, does it ever sound good?
Dan Hurley
I mean, yesterday was day one and you know, and I'm ready to go. And this is winter, Dan. Yeah, I think summer, Dan, you know, is a little more laid back, you know, but this is the time of year where we all turn it up. I'm excited about this team. I think that this team, you know, you don't go into the year like last year. I think you have enough time with your team in the summer and in the preseason, where I think going into last year there was a feeling amongst the staff that maybe we didn't have enough relative to what we put together to be able to go for the three peat. That will not be this team's story. This team has enough. If we give absolutely everything and if our pursuit is, is honorable, if it's an honorable pursuit of championships, with the way that we approach things, this team will have a chance to compete for all the championships.
Dan Patrick
I hope the book is cathartic for you because you, you're visiting a lot of different places. Hopefully you don't have to revisit them anymore. But you know, when you write a memoir, you, you got to dig deep down and you certainly did in this book with the help of Ian.
Dan Hurley
Yeah, I think, Dan, for me, when I read it, you know, I always walked away from it saying, you know, like, you know, your, your life is kind of, it's, it's a little bit like a movie, you know, like you're, you know, you've got this kind of a little bit. Not that I'm any hero, but you got this kind of little bit of a hero's journey and it's got all the elements of, of, you know, you know, your struggles becoming, you know, your strength in the end and just it's a real human story of like, you know, personal struggle, family struggle, career struggle. You know, you've got this coach, you know, with dragon underwear laying under his desk before games because of his anxiety. You know, I don't know who would play me. I guess I've been told like maybe a Billy Bob Thornton because of the cursing, but I don't know who would play me.
Dan Patrick
We can work on that. Hopefully it's a happy ending when that movie comes out. A happy ending. Great to talk to you again. Thanks. Thanks for sharing.
Dan Hurley
Thanks, brother.
Dan Patrick
That's Dan Hurley. The book is called Never Stop Life Leadership and what It Takes to Be Great and he co wrote it with Ian o' Connor who's had a couple of new York Times best sellers. It's available online September 30th and once again, if you're on campus at UConn. That'll be next Wednesday and you can get more details with this. He will be at the Jorgensen center for Performing Arts and tickets are general admission. We'll take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.
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Dan Hurley
That's not a healthy number.
Dan Patrick
You are putting people in danger. Paulie reached out to somebody during the Dan Hurley interview. Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
Okay, it's an expert, but I don't know if allegedly, if it's so dangerous.
Todd
To go for, make the move from the left lane to the middle lane. That means that once you're in the left lane, you're there for life.
Dan Patrick
So you know more than the expert. Expert.
Todd
I'm saying that if you have to stay in the left lane, I guess until your ride is over, somehow, forever.
Dan Patrick
Until you get to your destination in Utah. Hi, Steven. Thanks, Patrick.
Caller
How are you today?
Dan Patrick
Good. What do you have for me?
Caller
I am a long time. First time I'm going to say 6, 7, 2, 35 with my Kevlar. Oh, 20, 25 year uhp in Utah. And Fritzi is 100% in violation of code if he wants it because he's kind of that way. 41 6. The left lane on an interstate highway is designated as a passing lane. Whether it's two lanes or three lanes, that lane is only to be used to pass. And if you are driving in the left lane, you can and will be pulled over. If a cop is so inclined to get a ticket, I don't usually do it because I don't usually pull people over for going three miles over the speed limit. But if he has someone behind him and he's not merging, I will gladly pull him over and give him a ticket 100% of the time.
Dan Patrick
But Stephen, if the person, let's say Todd, is going 10 miles over the speed limit and the guy behind him is going to be going faster, how do you adjudicate that? I.
Caller
Well, when the guy's behind him, he would be doing 10. Otherwise he'd be hitting him. I would pull him over and give him a ticket and let the guy behind him go on his merry way. And by the way, there's one listener that owes not getting a ticket today to Fritzi. Because I'm sitting out here gunning people and I let someone go because I was waiting to talk.
Todd
Can I ask a quick question?
Dan Patrick
No, we don't have time.
Todd
I just want to know what the camping speed is. What is the speed?
Dan Patrick
I don't have time. Todd, you've had 45 minutes on the. Thank you, officer. Now you want to ask.
Paulie
Got somebody out of a ticket, though.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I know.
Paulie
Somebody got lucky.
Dan Patrick
Todd, did you learn anything today? I did.
Todd
Regardless of how fast you may be driving in the left lane, if someone's riding your bumper, it's imperative to get out of their way and yield to their reckless behavior and excessive.
Dan Patrick
You did not learn anything today.
Paulie
Seaton My ride home today might be more interesting.
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This is an I Heart podcast.
Date: September 24, 2025
Podcast: The Dan Patrick Show
Host: Dan Patrick (with the Danettes: Todd “Fritzy” Fritz, Paulie, Marvin, Seaton)
Notable Guest: Dan Hurley, UConn Men’s Basketball Head Coach
This hour is an energetic and frequently hilarious deep dive into a spirited debate on driving etiquette, specifically the controversy over staying in the left lane (a.k.a. “left lane camping”). Todd “Fritzy” Fritz finds himself under fire from both his co-hosts and listeners who are baffled by his stubbornness on the issue. The segment is peppered with social media reactions, listener calls, and expert commentary. In the latter half, Dan Hurley joins to discuss his new memoir, “Never Stop: Life, Leadership, and What it Takes to be Great,” providing open, vulnerable, and insightful reflections on leadership, mental health, competition, and personal growth.
[03:08–26:29]
The Left Lane “Camping” Controversy:
Todd (Fritzy) adamantly defends his habit of staying in the left lane, regardless of faster traffic wanting to get by. Dan and the other Danettes (Paulie, Marvin) repeatedly press him to acknowledge that the left lane is for passing, not cruising—even if you're already exceeding the speed limit.
Social Media & Listener Feedback:
Fritzy’s Justifications & Psychology:
Expert and Legal Input:
Listener Phone Calls:
[26:29–44:26]
Driving Habits:
Dan Patrick first asks Hurley (somewhat tongue-in-cheek) for his take on left lane driving. Hurley reveals he’s calm behind the wheel—though his wife drives “like a Jersey person.” He despises slow drivers in the left lane and “cutters” at congested exits.
Dan Hurley’s Memoir:
[50:14–53:16]
[End of Summary]