The Dan Patrick Show — Hour 3: Fritzy Getting Crushed, Dan Hurley

Date: September 24, 2025
Podcast: The Dan Patrick Show
Host: Dan Patrick (with the Danettes: Todd “Fritzy” Fritz, Paulie, Marvin, Seaton)
Notable Guest: Dan Hurley, UConn Men’s Basketball Head Coach

Episode Overview

This hour is an energetic and frequently hilarious deep dive into a spirited debate on driving etiquette, specifically the controversy over staying in the left lane (a.k.a. “left lane camping”). Todd “Fritzy” Fritz finds himself under fire from both his co-hosts and listeners who are baffled by his stubbornness on the issue. The segment is peppered with social media reactions, listener calls, and expert commentary. In the latter half, Dan Hurley joins to discuss his new memoir, “Never Stop: Life, Leadership, and What it Takes to be Great,” providing open, vulnerable, and insightful reflections on leadership, mental health, competition, and personal growth.

1. Fritzy and the Great Left Lane Debate

[03:08–26:29]

Main Points & Insights

• The Left Lane “Camping” Controversy:
  Todd (Fritzy) adamantly defends his habit of staying in the left lane, regardless of faster traffic wanting to get by. Dan and the other Danettes (Paulie, Marvin) repeatedly press him to acknowledge that the left lane is for passing, not cruising—even if you're already exceeding the speed limit.

• Social Media & Listener Feedback:

  • Todd is bombarded with negative feedback, including fans calling for him to be fired and expressing newfound dislike.
    • Dan Patrick: “This has made me dislike Fritzi forever. He’s the worst type of driver out there.” [04:45]
    • Todd: “I just blocked him on Instagram.” [04:59]
  • Paulie notes the “main character syndrome” on display, critiquing the entitlement present in Todd’s stance:
    • Paulie: “Why is Todd’s… Todd is so important that he gets to stay in that lane, but that other person is less important than Todd?” [06:26]

• Fritzy’s Justifications & Psychology:

  • Todd maintains he’s already speeding and finds it unfair to move over for even faster cars.
  • He admits his stubbornness but denies putting others in danger—despite repeated, logical pushback from everyone else.
  • Dan tries to psychoanalyze Todd’s refusal to yield, observing: “There’s a psychology attached to this. You don’t want to be told what to do.” [07:17]
  • Todd: “It’s hard for me to change my opinion. And then I will throw out things that have nothing to do with the argument, hoping that’ll somehow get through.” [07:40]
  • Paulie: “Main character syndrome is off the charts.” [14:15]

• Expert and Legal Input:

  • Professor Wesley Marshall, Ph.D. (Civil Engineering, road safety expert) calls out Fritzy’s behavior as dangerous and contrary to etiquette and law. [12:36, 50:14]

• Listener Phone Calls:

  • Several listeners relate personal anecdotes, generally siding with Dan and the other Danettes (“move over!”), and one law enforcement officer explicitly states that left lane camping will get you a ticket regardless of your speed relative to the posted limit.
    • Officer Steven from Utah: “Fritzi is 100% in violation of code... the left lane on an interstate highway is designated as a passing lane... You can and will be pulled over.” [51:01]

Memorable Quotes

• Dan Patrick: “Just like the sign John Elway’s dad and Vince Lombardi had on their desk: Lead, follow, or get the F out of the way.” [05:01]
• Professor Wesley Marshall (via Paulie): “Tell Fritzy to move over. He's putting others in danger. And by odds, he's putting himself in great danger by doing this.” [50:14]
• Officer Steven (Utah): “If he has someone behind him and he's not merging, I will gladly pull him over and give him a ticket 100% of the time.” [51:01]
• Todd: “Regardless of how fast you may be driving in the left lane, if someone's riding your bumper, it's imperative to get out of their way and yield to their reckless behavior…” [52:45] (Sarcasm after the expert's advice)
• Paulie: “Main character syndrome is off the charts.” [14:15]

Key Timestamps & Segments

• [03:08] — Debate begins, Dan lays out Todd’s “left lane” issue
• [04:45 – 10:09] — Social media and Danettes pile on, mocking Todd
• [12:36] — Professor Wesley Marshall weighs in
• [13:47] — Todd questions what “camping” means (“Like, I parked and I set up a tent…”)
• [16:13 – 17:10] — Listener George warns about crash risk
• [17:10 – 18:48] — Todd’s hypothetical scenarios (e.g., logging trucks, “macho pickup truck guy”), more jokes
• [25:44] — First caller siding with Fritzy (“pacesetters”), introducing some nuance
• [26:29] — Transition to guest Dan Hurley

2. Dan Hurley Interview: Vulnerability, Leadership & Competition

[26:29–44:26]

Main Points & Insights

• Driving Habits:
  Dan Patrick first asks Hurley (somewhat tongue-in-cheek) for his take on left lane driving. Hurley reveals he’s calm behind the wheel—though his wife drives “like a Jersey person.” He despises slow drivers in the left lane and “cutters” at congested exits.

  • Dan Hurley: “I’m actually a pretty calm driver… But you shouldn’t be driving below the speed limit in the left lane.” [26:43]

• Dan Hurley’s Memoir:

  • On Vulnerability:
    • Hurley opens up about how revisiting painful times (“reliving some of the tougher parts of your life”) was difficult during the writing process. [28:23]
  • Comparison & Perfectionism:
    • Hurley details struggling with perfectionism, insecurity, and the “comparison trap”—especially with his brother Bobby Hurley and father Bob Hurley, Sr.
      • “An unhealthy relationship with perfectionism… The comparison game became torturous for me.” [29:51]
  • Satisfaction & Drive:
    • Hurley admits he’s never satisfied, and that acceptance of losing would mean it’s time to step away from the game. [31:00]
  • Considering Leaving College Basketball:
    • Discusses contemplating leaving College Basketball for 2–3 days, feeling “success fatigue,” and frustration with the unpredictable landscape (rules, NIL, portal, etc.). [32:05]
  • Imposter Syndrome & Insecurity:
    • Hurley describes constant feelings of insecurity, not just professionally but personally, and credits that insecurity as a driver for personal growth and coaching excellence.
      • “The best coaches have a level of insecurity about them… that’s a real driver.” [33:40]
  • Coaching Intense vs. Coaching Angry:
    • Reflects on how he handled failure and success differently and hopes for improvement after lessons learned from a tough season. [34:43]
  • Dealing with Mental Health:
    • Hurley bravely reveals “dark days” and even suicidal thoughts as a player. He describes the stigma around mental health and the life-changing impact of therapy and support.
      • “You give serious consideration to doing something to harm yourself… but meeting Sister Catherine Waters at Seton Hall really changed my life.” [35:47]
  • Pushing to Burnout for Success:
    • Hurley discusses his “all out” approach to coaching, suggesting elite coaches and athletes “should work themselves close to death for that… until burnout hits.” [36:59–38:44]
  • Struggle to Find Balance:
    • Dan Patrick advises on the importance of balance, referencing lessons from his own career. Hurley admits he’s still searching for that balance.
      • “I don’t know if you enjoy those two championships as much as you probably should have… You gotta have balance, man.” (Dan Patrick) [39:04]
  • Joy and Relief:
    • Hurley describes the fleeting nature of joy after winning a championship—the season is more about “suffering and relief.” [39:19]
  • Sore Loser:
    • Acknowledges his struggles with losing, commitment to improvement, and how relentless drive can be both a superpower and a downside. [40:29]
  • Future Coaching Plans:
    • Hurley doesn’t see himself coaching for 10 more years—wants to enjoy life, but feels an obligation to give everything to the profession while he’s in it, referencing idol Dick Vermeil.
      • “I should work myself close to death for that… to be a basketball coach…” [38:03]
  • Legacy and Memoir’s Meaning:
    • Describes his life as “a little bit like a movie… your struggles become your strengths in the end.” Hopes for “…a happy ending.” [43:18]

Memorable Quotes

• Dan Hurley: "For me, I've had an unhealthy relationship with perfectionism... the comparison game that you play with yourself relative to others is something that became torturous for me as a player." [29:51]
• Dan Hurley: “Dark to the point where… you give serious consideration to doing something to harm yourself…” [35:47]
• Dan Hurley: “You have an obligation to literally push yourself to the point of burnout for the seven or eight million dollars a year they pay me to coach UConn.” [36:59]
• Dan Hurley: "The season feels a lot like suffering and relief, suffering and relief, and then it either ends in elation or how it ended for me in Florida versus Florida..." [39:49]
• Dan Hurley: “…I feel like I can always do more. I can always be better.” [33:40]
• Dan Patrick: “You’ve got to have balance, man.” [39:04]

Key Timestamps & Segments

• [26:29] — Dan Hurley joins; first question is about left-lane driving
• [27:37] — Transition to Hurley’s book and vulnerability in writing
• [28:23] — Discussing mental health, pressure, perfectionism
• [29:51] — The “comparison trap” with family
• [31:00] — On never being satisfied
• [32:05] — Almost leaving college basketball
• [33:40] — Imposter syndrome, insecurity
• [34:43] — Coaching intense vs. angry, lessons from recent seasons
• [35:47] — Dark mental health struggles and the importance of therapy
• [36:59–38:44] — On obligation and burnout in elite sports
• [39:04] — Dan Patrick to Hurley: “You gotta have balance”
• [39:19–40:29] — On joy, relief, suffering, and being a “sore loser”
• [43:18] — Memoir, legacy, reflection, and “hero’s journey” analogy
• [44:26] — Hurley departs, Dan and crew wrap up reflecting on the interview

3. Finale: Left Lane Debate Settled (Sort Of)

[50:14–53:16]

• Paulie connects with Professor Wesley Marshall, a bona fide road safety expert, who confirms unequivocally that Todd’s conduct is dangerous and increases his own risk as well as others’. [50:14]
  • Dan Patrick: “So you know more than the expert?” [50:47]
• Officer Steven, a Utah highway cop, chimes in live: “If he has someone behind him and he’s not merging, I will gladly pull him over and give him a ticket 100% of the time.” [51:01]
• Todd, characteristically, does not truly relinquish but offers a half-sarcastic “lesson learned.” [52:45]
• Exhaustion is palpable among the crew; Dan admits, “I am tired. I need a nap.” [53:16]

Episode Themes & Tone

• Humorous, relentless ribbing: The Danettes and listeners delight in Todd’s obstinance, translating a mundane topic into a room-filling back-and-forth.
• Openness and hard truths: The Hurley interview offers a sharp thematic contrast, featuring raw, honest reflections on mental health, professional pressure, and the constant search for balance and satisfaction.
• Both segments tie to stubbornness & vulnerability: Whether in driving or in life and sports, the conversation repeatedly returns to the hazards of refusing to change and the struggle to listen.

Notable Moments & Quotes Recap

• “Lead, follow, or get the F out of the way.” — Dan [05:01]
• “Main character syndrome is off the charts.” — Paulie [14:15]
• “Tell Fritzy to move over. He's putting others in danger. And by odds, he's putting himself in great danger by doing this.” — Professor Wesley Marshall [50:14]
• “You have an obligation to literally push yourself to the point of burnout for the seven or eight million dollars a year they pay me to coach UConn.” — Dan Hurley [36:59]
• “Your struggles become your strengths in the end…” — Dan Hurley [43:18]
• “I am tired.” — Dan, after the long debate [53:16]

For New Listeners: Takeaways

• The hour features classic Dan Patrick humor, quick-witted banter, and expertly navigates between absurd office debates and heavy, honest interviews.
• The contrast between the playful, comedic first half and the introspective, moving second half with Dan Hurley showcases the strength of the show and its willingness to go deep amid the laughter.
• Whether you're an avid sports fan, a leadership junkie, or enjoy workplace antics, this episode delivers a full range of radio entertainment.

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