Marvin (2:33)

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio.

Dan Patrick (2:37)

Final hour on this Monday. Gang's all here, ready to go. Your best and worst of the weekend. Phone calls are welcome. 877.3DP show stat of the day is always brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show have a new poll question. 8, 7, 7, 3 DP show operator Tyler sitting by to take your calls. The Niners favored by five and a half at the Colts tonight. I don't gamble anymore, but the Colts at home with five and a half. Would I take the five and a half with the Colts? Yeah, I used to always do Home dog Monday night. Always, always Colts with old man Rivers. Okay. You know, the defense is what stood out in that loss against Seattle. And 49er, 49ers don't have a lot of firepower. It's basic. You know, basically Christian McCaffrey, who is quietly having an unbelievable year, but he doesn't like there aren't highlights when I watch. He just doesn't have. It feels like that, that extra move, that extra burst, that extra gear, but they go to him. He's going to have over 400 touches this year for a guy coming off injuries and coming back and being the integral part of that offense because quarterbacks have changed, wide receivers have changed. You lost your two best defensive players. And oh, by the way, you're in the thick of things and not just your division, but overall in the nfc. All right, poll question for the final hour of the program. Nate Burleson on loan from CBS Sports in. In a little bit. Seaton. Yeah, we got a couple of real negativity Monday. Poll questions. As you only come to expect from us. Paulie is promising an even more negative poll question coming up as well.

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Dan Patrick (4:34)

Yeah. Paul's first negative poll question. Who do you believe in least, Alabama or Miami? Right now, Miami's got 63% of that vote. And then which NFC playoff team do you believe in least?

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Seahawks?

Dan Patrick (4:46)

Bears?

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49Ers, Eagles?

Dan Patrick (4:49)

The Bears have 42% of that vote. Second place is the Eagles. Okay. Eagles can win the super bowl again. Yes. I mean, it's, it's kind of weird when you watch them play. And yes, they've, they've brought in criticism because it just feels like there's some kind of disconnect with that coach. His quarterback defense isn't as stout as it has been. But you do have skilled position players on offense. I don't think anybody compares to them. Those two receivers, that tight end, that running back and you know, Jalen Hurts is not a great quarterback. I think he can play great, but that doesn't make him a great quarterback. Yeah.

Paulie Fusco (5:34)

Polling here's the new poll question. Which fan base of a recently competitive team that was in the playoff picture just a week or two ago should feel the worst today? Baltimore Ravens fans. Detroit Lions fans.

Dan Patrick (5:51)

Yes.

Paulie Fusco (5:52)

Or Tampa Bay Buccaneers fans.

Dan Patrick (5:54)

Lions.

Paulie Fusco (5:54)

Yeah.

Dan Patrick (5:55)

The Lions were going to the Super Bowl a couple of years ago. They're leading at halftime. They were going to the super bowl and probably would have won the Super Bowl. They may not make the playoffs now. And it wasn't just. Yes. I mean, you know, now they're healthy. Ish. Last year they weren't. You didn't have Aiden Hutchinson, but I mean, Tampa was just. They're in a bad division. I thought, okay, all you got to do is win nine games, you're in the playoffs, and then you're going to host a playoff game. Maybe you could catch magic in a bottle. Lightning and bottle is what they like to say. Jameer Gibbs caught a touchdown pass in the loss to the Steelers. He has 48 career touchdowns. He passes Barry Sanders for most touchdowns by a player under the age of 24. All time. He has the most touchdowns by a player in his first three seasons in NFL history. Day.

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Brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. I'll go back to the draft. And leading into the draft, my source said he is a Marshall Falk kind of running back. And, you know, was he going to be drafted in the first 15? Oh, you don't take, you know, running backs up there. But my source, who's an NFL scout, gave us those words that I said on this show. Jameer Gibbs, in his opinion, was a Marshall Falk kind of player. One of the greatest hybrid running backs of all time. Yeah.

Paulie Fusco (7:39)

Paulie, I've got the Detroit Lions draft grades from that draft where they took. Was that 20, 23. They took Jack Campbell, the linebacker.

Dan Patrick (7:46)

Yeah.

Paulie Fusco (7:46)

And Jameer Gibbs. I think they traded up to get him at 12.

Dan Patrick (7:49)

Yeah.

Paulie Fusco (7:50)

They got Ds, D minuses, C C minuses. Way too early for Jameer Gibbs. You traded up for a running back who you could have got five picks later. You don't take a running. You don't take a middle linebacker in the first round.

Dan Patrick (8:03)

True.

Paulie Fusco (8:04)

They got ripped up in the draft.

Dan Patrick (8:06)

Yeah, but you're getting further and further away from the super bowl when you think about it. I mean, I had him winning the super bowl this year. I thought, everybody's healthy now. You. Now's your time. Now's your turn. Yeah.

Marvin (8:21)

Marv, as a Lions fan, would you be More upset about always being terrible or having great expectations and not living up to them.

Dan Patrick (8:32)

Well, okay. Your pain occurs at different stages. So it's either it could be January or it could be October where you're not any good and you're not going anywhere. And the pain of another loss season or we have a chance to go to the Super Bowl. I mean, I, I'll take that crushing defeat against the Niners. I mean, it's going to hurt, but it, but it hurts in a, in a positive way. We got to that point instead of where the Lions would be, like how many, how many losses are they going to have this year? You got to have double digit losses that, I mean, there was no heartbeat there. Now you have it, which means you're going to have a heart attack. And that's what happened. But you're getting further and further away. And the Bears are a good team. Packers are a good team. Not as much now with the injuries, but. And maybe the Vikings figured out next year. So if you're a Lions fan, you're like, we got some pieces here, but you're getting further and further away from the goal. Yeah, Paulie.

Paulie Fusco (9:39)

The lions are the second best scoring offense in the NFC only to the Rams. They've outscored their opponents by 78 points. That's third best in the NFC and they're 8 and 7.

Dan Patrick (9:48)

Here's Dan Campbell on the wild ending to the game yesterday.

Caller (9:54)

I mean, I don't even want to get into it, you know, because it's not going to change anything. We still lost, you know. You know, I mean, look, you think you score, you don't score and then, you know, you think you're going to have another play, replay it or back it up one more shot, and it doesn't. And that's just, I guess that's the way it's written in the rule book. So that's frustrating. But there again, it should never come to that. We had our opportunities. We weren't able to put it in before that play.

Dan Patrick (10:22)

They did have opportunities. You know what would help? Stopping the run. Who knew? The Steelers going to run for 200 yards and you're going to get 15 yards. That's the first drive with Jameer Gibbs. Normally, yes, Todd, that was even more glaring.

Todd (10:40)

Stopping the run is one thing, but you've got these great running backs and you end up with just 15 yards for the entire game. That's just unacceptable when, when there's a playoff spot on the line. Anyway.

Dan Patrick (10:49)

Wait, now you're upset?

Todd (10:50)

No, I Was upset. I'm only upset about the Broncos. But that particular game, to go a whole game and only have 15 yards rushing.

Dan Patrick (10:56)

By the way. By the way. So you have a pie coming. I do. All right. At the end. End of the show. Because we had Marcus in Jacksonville, who not only said Jacksonville would win the game, they would win by 14, we assume.

Todd (11:10)

Doesn't have any special intel with Vegas and the odds.

Dan Patrick (11:12)

It doesn't matter. He had him winning by 14. He gave you 13 points with the Broncos at home.

Todd (11:20)

It got to a point where I knew the Broncos were going to lose, and then it was all about rooting for them to not lose by 14.

Dan Patrick (11:27)

How was morale at home yesterday?

Todd (11:29)

Absolutely horrible. And then one of their players gets hurt and gets taken out on a stretcher with 30 seconds left and it looked like really bad. Thankfully, latest reports are he's doing okay and he's out of the hospital. But on top of that. And Bo Nix felt horrible and there's a throw across the middle and he just got crushed.

Dan Patrick (11:45)

Thank you for the breakdown of that game.

Paulie Fusco (11:47)

Maybe the name of the player.

Dan Patrick (11:48)

Yeah.

Todd (11:49)

Brian.

Dan Patrick (11:50)

Yeah. Who are you? Tony Romo. Just give me a number.

Todd (11:53)

But that happened with 30 seconds left in a 14 point game when that.

Dan Patrick (11:56)

Team, they threw it to the guy and then he did the thing. Remember that?

Paulie Fusco (11:59)

When that happened, he got hurt in the body. Crazy.

Dan Patrick (12:02)

Yeah.

Paulie Fusco (12:03)

But if you're a Broncos fan, despite yesterday's loss, you had to feel great right now. You could wash that.

Dan Patrick (12:09)

I don't know if you feel great.

Paulie Fusco (12:11)

Today entering the playoffs with that defense.

Dan Patrick (12:14)

Okay. But I don't feel great today.

Paulie Fusco (12:16)

What did they won, like nine in a row?

Dan Patrick (12:17)

I may feel greater, you know, as I, you know, remove myself from this loss at home to Jacksonville.

Paulie Fusco (12:25)

I think it's an easy shake off.

Dan Patrick (12:27)

Yeah, I know. Well, Todd doesn't like Taylor Swift to shake it off.

Todd (12:31)

They're lucky they still have the one seed because I guess they have the tiebreaker with the pages. But they had an opportunity to jump a game.

Dan Patrick (12:36)

Wait, it is. Is it they or.

Todd (12:38)

We had an opportunity to jump a game on New England.

Dan Patrick (12:40)

You got to make up. Come on. Okay.

Todd (12:42)

It's all we. We had an opportunity to jump a game on New England. We had a chance to really prove ourselves to the doubters against a very tough team and keep the winning streak going. And now we don't even have the AFC west yet. The Chargers are still looming and we got to play them in the final week of the season. Division's up in the air.

Dan Patrick (12:56)

Okay. Yes.

Marvin (12:56)

Marvin, who's distancing themselves more from their team or Travis Kelsey. It's like hopefully Mahomes can get back to the Chiefs, not us. Same thing with him. The Broncos play terrible.

Dan Patrick (13:12)

Did Travis Kelce play yesterday? Do we even know his numbers? I got him, watched the game, I saw some highlights, but I mean I was just curious. And then now is the backup quarterback out of torn acl.

Paulie Fusco (13:25)

Yeah. Gardner Minchu ripped up his knee after eight pass attempts. And it's Chris Olikadoon or something like that. I think he's from South, South Dakota State maybe.

Dan Patrick (13:35)

Okay. Did Kelsey play?

Paulie Fusco (13:37)

He did. He had one catch for six yards. He averaged six yards of catch.

Todd (13:41)

Thank you.

Paulie Fusco (13:42)

They always do that. They always put those fantasy numbers like Jameer Gibbs. One carry, four yards, four yards per carry.

Dan Patrick (13:49)

Like it's first quarter and it's always his big tight end.

Paulie Fusco (13:53)

Yes.

Dan Patrick (13:53)

The announcer always says his big tight end. I, you know, another completion to his big tight end. Nobody says his undersized tight end. Yeah, his diminutive tight end there. And it's a young rookie. I mean unless you're Chris Winkey or Brandon Whedon, most of your rookies are young rookies. Aging rookie. Yes, yes.

Marvin (14:16)

Marvin, the young rookie that's shown a lot of promise.

Dan Patrick (14:18)

Oh yeah, gotta show a lot of promise. Ashton Genty, the young rookie showing a lot of promise in another loss.

Ryan Seacrest (14:25)

Yes.

Todd (14:26)

Are there five 980 pound tight ends out there that people are looking to sign? I haven't seen one recently.

Dan Patrick (14:30)

I don't, I don't know. I don't think so. They're all. You gotta find his big tight end there. We always like to add another word. Yeah, it's, you can describe it with that word but you want to attach another word that is basically the same thing. Yes.

Todd (14:50)

And if you're really old or really young, you got to put that at 44 year old Philip Rivers. He's not just Philip Rivers, he's 44 year old.

Dan Patrick (14:56)

There is, there are certain players where you do introduce them by their age. Yeah. Tom Brady was always the 45 year old Tom Brady. Now it's the 44 year old Philip Rivers. Or you know, it could be a baseball player who's a little bit older. Yes. Marv.

Marvin (15:11)

On the young side, 17 year old Ryan Williams from Alabama, they were saying he was 17 for about two years.

Dan Patrick (15:17)

He used to be a thing. Feels like he made a business decision this year like I can't go pro so I'm just gonna kind of be out there because they had Another receiver who was, as the kids like to say, ballin in that game. Yes. Bowling.

Paulie Fusco (15:34)

Smallest tight end the NFL. I just found it not easy to find Connor Hayward of the Steelers. He's a fullback, tight end, but listed at tight end, 6 foot 230.

Dan Patrick (15:44)

Yes. But then look at the other tight end. Washington, Mount Washington. Like, you see that guy? And I'd be, you want to talk about a safety valve? It'd be if I'm Aaron Rodgers, I want to know where he is all the time. Because he's like 6, 8, 3, 3 something.

Paulie Fusco (16:01)

Paulie Darnell Washington out of Georgia, 311 and he's 6 7.

Dan Patrick (16:08)

Yeah.

Paulie Fusco (16:09)

So can't. He can't be the big tight end. Gigantic tight end.

Dan Patrick (16:13)

Hey, he might be his big tight end. There might be a big tight end there. Yeah. Yeah. See, I feel like the Patriots at one time had a semi undersized tight end at about 6, 2, like 2:50 maybe. But they also had Gronk, who was a much bigger tight end. I feel like 6:2. He wasn't. I feel like that person was considered undersized, weren't they? Yeah. Do I have a name?

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Dan Patrick (16:45)

He was 6 2. He was. Yeah. Oh, I thought he was like 6 5. No, he was 6 2. I remember he was basically a wide receiver. Oh, yeah. Not, you know. Yes, yes. Mark.

Marvin (16:57)

The word they would describe Hernandez was a hybrid. They were like, man, he's a hybrid.

Paulie Fusco (17:03)

Sorry, I look up that changed as his career developed.

Dan Patrick (17:06)

Yeah, they called him other things. A hybrid. Yeah. Inmate 487. That was unfortunate. How about we take a break? We're going to talk some football with Nate Burleson, former wide receiver on loan from cbs. He'll join us next year on the Dan Patrick Show.

Marvin (17:21)

Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Paulie Fusco here with Tony Fusco.

Ryan Seacrest (17:33)

Yo, as everybody knows, we're the host.

Marvin (17:35)

Of the award winning Paulie and Tony Fusco Show.

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Marvin (17:47)

What are you doing? You're interrupting our promo.

Dan Patrick (17:49)

Yeah, he wasn't talking about you.

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Todd (17:54)

Oh, yeah?

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Well, after this promo, I'm gonna take.

Marvin (17:56)

You out and beat you.

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Shut up.

Dan Patrick (18:00)

Yeah.

Todd (18:01)

Anyway, just listen to the Paulie and.

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Yay.

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Dan Patrick (21:48)

Nate Burleson here in a couple of minutes. On loan from CBS Bears, Niners, Seahawks, Patriots all clinched playoff spots after missing the playoffs last year. And this stat, it always rings true 36 consecutive years that you have had at least four teams each season qualify for the playoffs after failing to make the playoffs the year before. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. Jason in North Carolina hi Jason, what's on your mind?

Caller (22:29)

58190 My best of the Weekend My son for Christmas this year wanted to go to his first Panthers game. So a couple months ago I bought tickets to the Bucks game hoping it might be important and ended up being our biggest home game in 10 years. And the win, seeing his look on his face and being the having hope of the Panthers fan for his first time favorite just feels really good.

Dan Patrick (22:52)

And yeah, you should feel good about the Panthers. I, I can't. You know, you can hope they win. It's. It's always dangerous when you expect them to win. But it's a good story. They've done a really good job and you know that gives you hope and that's what the NFL was. They want that. How many teams starting the year did you say didn't have a chance? Carolina was probably in the mix. Titans in the mix. Browns were going to be in the mix. Cardinals would be in the mix. Anybody else where you just said they're not going to make the playoffs? Yes.

Marvin (23:32)

Marvin See said the Chiefs had no hope.

Dan Patrick (23:34)

That's true. You did. You knew it. Yes. Yes. Paulie.

Paulie Fusco (23:37)

I think a lot of people said the Saints were not competitive this year going into the season. I know they've only won five. But before the season, no one liked.

Dan Patrick (23:45)

The Saints, but they weren't going to make the playoffs. What I'm saying is we wrote them off.

Paulie Fusco (23:49)

Oh, yeah.

Dan Patrick (23:49)

So, yeah, they got five wins and maybe they found their quarterback. But nobody said whether Saints are going to make the playoffs. It's probably five, six teams, which is, you know, that's what you want. Now, the other sports don't. Don't necessarily have that. Yes, Marv. Giants and jets, man, the quarterback rating for both of those. The QBR for the quarterbacks yesterday, I think they combined for like six. Like, the quarterback rating was six. And this is Jackson Dart. Not a backup to a backup to a backup. Yes.

Paulie Fusco (24:27)

Paul Jackson Dart was 7 of 13 with 33 yards passing and one pick. His quarterback rating was 4.7.

Dan Patrick (24:35)

And then the jets quarterback, McCook, I think his quarterback rating was. Was 3. Does that sound right?

Paulie Fusco (24:47)

Brady Cook, though, he lit it up. He was 22 of 35. One interception. I guess not that bad.

Dan Patrick (24:55)

I mean, those are essentially Philip Rivers. Same numbers from the other day. We were like, isn't this the best story of the year? This is amazing. Look at what Philip Rivers just did. Yeah, it's like, same numbers. Fritz, he is getting a pie coming up in about 35 minutes. He lost the bet with. He got 13 points in the Broncos at home and lost that bet because they lost by 14.

Todd (25:23)

That's just amazing that he said that they would win by 14.

Dan Patrick (25:26)

Marcus and Jackson, I don't know how he did that. So Todd getting a pie to the face and. No, I'm not taking a pie to the face today because Todd screwed it up on Friday Pie day. You made the mistake. You didn't hit me with the pie.

Todd (25:39)

And nothing to do with you. There was no cowardice. There was nothing other than me losing track of the time and not you on camera.

Dan Patrick (25:45)

Your. Your clock. Management was terrible.

Todd (25:48)

Beyond terrible.

Dan Patrick (25:49)

Yes, Marv.

Marvin (25:50)

Going back to watching that segment at the end and hearing Weeks and everyone else saying, hit him.

Dan Patrick (25:56)

Yeah, like hearing weeks.

Marvin (25:58)

You usually hear him. A 10, a 5, a 30, maybe.

Dan Patrick (26:01)

The cameraman normally doesn't talk. They're not supposed to, but he gives us time cues because we were outside. We couldn't see the clock. And he would be like, 60, and then it would be 30. And then he was like, hit him, hit him. So the cameraman is actually saying, and then we got to 10. I took off my glasses. So if Todd was going to hit me with pie, it's like, okay, go ahead, close my eyes. All of a sudden it's five. Todd hit him. Yes.

Todd (26:31)

Todd, I was just giving you a cue that our guest is standing.

Dan Patrick (26:35)

Oh, okay.

Todd (26:36)

I went ahead. This is. I have a stomach to say. Thumb is.

Dan Patrick (26:39)

Oh, okay. Thank you.

Todd (26:41)

You're welcome.

Dan Patrick (26:41)

Nate Burleson's a busy guy. NFL Christmas game day. And that'll be on Netflix. So you. You'll be in the booth for the Cowboys and the commanders and, you know, these games sound good when the season comes out. Nate, where you go, man? Cowboy. Cowboys and the commanders here. All right, let me hear you sell it.

Marvin (27:03)

Well, listen, you're right. Initially, you know, they reached out and they said, this is going to be the Cowboys commanders on Christmas Day. I'm thinking, oh, we. We got an NFC east rivalry. This is going to be one of the biggest games of the year. Dak Prescott, they're fighting for a chance to make a Super bowl run. Jaden Daniels riding everybody. Just how good he is at the quarterback position, great defenses and offenses. It's not. It's not a chess. It's not a checker's game. It's chess. All of the good things that we like to say in sports, and then it falls off the rails. The Cowboys have another year of disappointment in not being contenders, and then just injuries decimated this commander's team. But here's the thing. It still is a rivalry game, and you have a couple of cool people in the booth with a bunch of people surrounding the game. We are going to have fun. It's Christmas day. We're going to talk X's and O's stories about pros. And the reality is football always finds a way of making itself entertaining, even if the playoff implications aren't there. Listen, we got a ton of stuff we could talk about. Christmas movies, Christmas day routines. We could talk about being in the playoffs versus booking your vacation. I think Matt Ryan and I were on the set yesterday trying to figure out who we're going to put in our all Christmas team. You know, who's Santa, who's Rudolph down the line? We got a ton of stuff to fill time if the game doesn't give us the entertainment we need. But I have a feeling that Cowboys commanders is going to be plenty of the entertainment we will need.

Dan Patrick (28:39)

Yeah. So Cowboys commanders at one Eastern with Ian Eagle and Matt Ryan. Then it's the Lions in the Vikings pregame begins at 11am Eastern on Netflix.

Marvin (28:50)

Those two matches sounded really good a.

Dan Patrick (28:54)

Few months ago, right? I'm still trying to figure out how the official says touchdown and then says, however. Okay, so help me understand that in the Lion Steelers game where it's not a touchdown because there was a penalty. So why would you start with your ruling calling it a touchdown and then saying, but there was pass interference, no touchdown, game over, drive home safely.

Marvin (29:25)

Yeah, see, I, I, I. Listen, man, let's keep it real. This is what I like to. I like to keep it real with you. I was drafted by the Vikings playing in NFC north, went to Seattle for four years, right? And then I had an opportunity to sign another deal, so I went to Detroit. And I remember when I got there, guys were scoring. They were like, look, the league. The league doesn't like us. And Nate playing here is rough. Not just because we're trying to exercise demons, but when a game is on the line, it tends to go the other way, you know? And I'm like, I'm like. I'm like, no, no, no, no. I've been in the league for seven years now, and I get it. There's some close calls. But football is football, right? And they're like, no, no, no. I don't think you understand it. When it comes to the Lions, there are certain games that just don't go our way, even though everybody knows they should. Now, I remember questioning that, doubting that. And then one year, we open up in Chicago. It's a close game. You know, those division games are really like two, and it's the Lions versus the Bears. We're in Chicago. Last minute, Hail Mary throw up to Calvin Johnson. He catches it. He has it in one hand, palming it with his big Ole Miss. He slides on the hip. He even has, like, an elbow down. And then he goes to get up on both hands, and one still has the ball in it, and he just pushes himself up off the ground and lets the ball go. Even the Chicago Bears were dapping us up, saying, hey, good game. Good game. Yeah, yeah, Y' all won that one. We'll see y' all a little later on, you know, in Detroit. And as the refs are sitting there meeting with each other, we're sitting back thinking, what the hell are you meeting about? Game over. That's the catch. We're one. And, oh, right now, sure enough, they Come back, they look at the cameras, and they say, incomplete task, Game over. I was blown away. I really was. And I can't help but to think about all of these moments throughout Detroit Lions history where our eyes see one thing, but then the reality is something else. Now, Amon Ra, he extended fully on that one by the goal line. I think nine times out of 10, they're looking for that full extension. They're going to call that. But the touchdown before that, though, where they call it a pick play, but the DB pushed it. I believe it was Tesla push, Tim. Smart play by the db, by the way, because if you push a guy into somebody else, you lose balance. The key is when you're running a pick play, you're swimming over the guy, you're running through the guy, you're making a move to make it seem like you're running around. I think the DD recognized that and was like, I'm gonna shove him. Throw my balance. Now I'm off balance. I'm just trying to stay up. It looks like I'm leaning one way or the other, and it looks like a pick play, but I still think that was a perfectly executed play. Touchdown by the Lions, game over. But here we are again, another example of how we think one thing and the rest call another.

Dan Patrick (32:10)

Okay, wait, Nate, you. You actually thought that the NFL had something against the Lions?

Marvin (32:17)

People that played for the players that played for the Lions said that to me, and I thought to myself, nah, that can't be. And then when they took that catch away from Calvin, a lot of Lions fans and Bears fans and people that just love, you know, big plays by Calvin Johnson, they remember this play. He caught that damn ball. I don't care what anybody said. The whole, like, back then, it was like the action of the catch, you gotta catch it. Go tie the ground and get up and then walk to the locker room, take a shower, then take the bus home in the flight, and then bury it in the backyard. Yeah, I just feel like that catch right there was a catch, and that just. It just. It left a sour taste in my mouth. Listen, the cookie's gonna crumble one way or the other. I just felt like we weren't getting, you know, our crumbs.

Dan Patrick (32:57)

And that changed football, you know, that really did. That whole complete the process nonsense. I mean, you're. You're an ex wide receiver. I. I can't imagine, you know, even that play with the Ravens where, you know, you got two steps in the football move is to have the ball away from the. That Is a football move.

Marvin (33:18)

Yeah.

Dan Patrick (33:19)

And so I don't know. What would you teach? You have to over catch. Now it feels like you have to over catch.

Marvin (33:26)

Listen, I feel bad for pass catchers and DBs in particular, because one pass catchers, we have to focus on which we're supposed to. We get paid to catch the ball, figure out a way to tuck it away before it gets punched out. Because the peanut punch has become wildly popular, Instead of going for the tackle, guys are just going for the ball. So catch, tuck away, snug away from the DB and then get 1, 2, 3. It's not just 1, 2, it's 1, 2, 3. And to be honest, hold on to that thing until the whistle blows. Don't let it go. Don't allow the DB to play with it after the whistle because they might take it away. And then on the flip side, I feel bad for some of these DBs, even linebackers. A guy catches a ball and then he's. He's basically figuring out what his aim point is going to be. I'm going to take this shoulder, and I'm going to shove it right into your sternum. I'm going to hit you in the shoulder. I'm going to hit you in the upper region. Shoot, I might try to take out one of your ribs, but I'm using my shoulder. Old school football. A lot of guys, when they catch the rock, they see that and then they crouch. I'm not going to call it coward, but they crouch down, which lowers the level of their helmet. So now you might have been aiming for this right here. My chest, shoulder, maybe even my rib. But if I see you and I don't want to take that shot and I crouch down, now I'm putting my helmet in a place where you weren't intending to hit, and all of a sudden it's targeting. Man, I feel bad for these dudes trying to tackle right now. And then if you're going to flow and taking out people's cleats or knees, now all of a sudden, you're looking. You're looked at as a guy who doesn't want to go up top. So you're stuck. You're really stuck. So I just feel like there's some rules that we still got to tweak a little bit without making the game softer, as some of some traditional traditionalists would like to say.

Dan Patrick (35:10)

Nate Burleson, NFL Today on cbs. And you can see him on Netflix. That'll be on Christmas day. NFL Christmas game day. He'll be in the booth Cowboys and the commanders. But you bring up that punch out. Yeah, that's a violent. I can punch you as hard as I want in the arm.

Marvin (35:30)

Yeah.

Dan Patrick (35:30)

And say I'm going for the ball. Correct. No doubt violently hit you.

Marvin (35:36)

You can aim just about anywhere. Like you can. You can wink, wink, miss and hit a guy in his. In his nuggets. You can hit him in his stomach. You can even, you know, hit him in his arm and bruise it up. But it's a play that I think if you're doing it with intentionality, not to hurt the ball carrier, I don't mind it at all. You know what I mean? I think it's one of the smartest plays in football. Listen, you know, if your team is going to rally to the rock, that means the first guy there can take that, that guesstimation, that, that risk to go for the ball. And if I miss, you know, the troops are coming behind me.

Dan Patrick (36:15)

I'm going to make you make a pick in the AFC right now, today.

Marvin (36:19)

All right, let's do it.

Dan Patrick (36:20)

Who you got?

Marvin (36:22)

The Buffalo Bills. I believe that even when they win ugly, they're still victories. And they. We've seen them win big and we see them put up points. They're anchored by a fantastic running game with James Cook. And then when Josh Allen wants to be a running back, he can make any throw on the book. The passing game might not be as prolific as some others in the league, but they run through their tight ends. The passing game grows through their tight ends and their defense. They're true bend but don't break. I know it's cliche, but they are that also. Let's just talk about like X factors or non X factors being in their way. This might be the best path that Josh Allen has ever had to face. We're talking possibly no Lamar. Right. It looks like they're on the outside looking in. No Joe Burrow, no Patrick Mahomes. If not now, then when? Now? I'm not knocking. I'm not knocking Bonix. I am also not knocking Drake May, and I'm for sure not knocking Trevor Lawrence because he might be playing the best football out of all quarterbacks right now. But if you're not facing that big three of Mahomes, Burrow and Jackson, I think Josh Allen has to really take this team and look at them and say, listen, we are facing some young guys who have not been in this position. They don't know what it's like to want close out a season, let alone fight for AFC Title game. So let's take advantage of the fact that we have been there. We know what this feeling is like to be in the postseason. Oh, and more importantly, we know what it's like to go home after the AFC Championship game and then have to watch the rest of the, the super bowl week with, you know, the, the everyday civilian that doesn't play football. So I just feel like this is. I won't call it the path of least resistance because that, that will be dismissive to the Broncos, Patriots and Jags. I just feel like this is the best path that Bill's fans in this. Bill's team has ever seen to a Super bowl run.

Dan Patrick (38:23)

Give me your NFC pick before you gotta go.

Marvin (38:27)

This is tough, man. I'm torn. It's like I'm torn between, you know, two X's, you know, and then they both fine. And we had good times. You know, listen, it's. And those two X's are for two different reasons. The Seattle Seahawks, because I played for him and I'm from Seattle. And you have to respect the record. And also beating the Rams. Speaking of the Rams, Matt Stafford, like, that's my former quarterback. So essentially the rams are my X2. And I just feel like it's funny because we saw that game, right? And it was a big time game on Thursday. And we're all thinking, this is going to help us decide who we have faith in in the nfc, not just the NFC West. Seattle wins, and people are like, yeah, but I still trust the Rams. And you know, and I get it. There's question marks about how for real Seattle is. I think there's also question marks how Sam Darnold will finish the season and show up in the postseason. I just think these two teams, one of them will represent the nfc. And I know everybody's saying, well, what about the Eagles, Nate? They're figuring it out. Yeah, they are. But, you know, I'm biased.

Dan Patrick (39:32)

Okay, in the final 15 seconds, the Rams walk into a party and Seattle walks into a party. Which one are you taking home?

Marvin (39:41)

How many drinks have I had? Because it might be both.

Dan Patrick (39:48)

Thanks for joining us.

Marvin (39:49)

All right, man. Thank you, man. You guys do an awesome job.

Dan Patrick (39:51)

Thank you, bud. That's Nate Burleson, NFL Christmas game day. It'll be live on Netflix. They got the Cowboys commanders followed by the Lions and the Vikings. Pregame coverage at 11am Eastern. We'll take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learn. What's in store tomorrow, this day in sports history. Right after this.

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Dan Patrick (44:02)

What we learned what's in store Tomorrow Reggie Miller will join us Lakers in Phoenix to take on the Suns. Let me see final results of the poll question. Seaton yeah, we got a couple of them up there. Tis the season as they say right now people, they believe in the Miami Hurricanes less than the Alabama Crimson Tide and the Bears are currently the NFC playoff team you believe in the least. Okay, I would think in the AFC if I said you believe in the Jags more the Texans more the Patriots and the Broncos. Now recency bias would probably people would be buying into the Jags because they that's a big win as biggest win of the weekend and the biggest surprise of the weekend. You beat that team, that defense and you score that many points. That's impressive. Yeah Paulie.

Paulie Fusco (45:01)

I don't know much about the Patriots defense. Not a lot of big names but it feels like Drake Mace in every ballgame and it doesn't matter what the lead is. I really believe in Drake May right now.

Dan Patrick (45:12)

Yeah it's one of those where it's kind of like Jacksonville where I haven't bought into their skill position players. But Ross Tucker who's done a couple of their games said hey they're, they're offensively a lot better than you think. The offensive line is Good. And Trevor Lawrence is playing at a really, really high level. Bruce in Michigan. Hi Bruce. What's on your mind today?

Caller (45:37)

Hey, I got a best of the worst of the weekend. First of all, I'm voting for Ross Tucker that. Well, nobody will ever replace you but to take over hosting the show when you retire. My best of the week had a couple of them here. Ferris State College University, excuse me. Four times the last five years. The D2 national champions. The other is my alma mater. Western Michigan University went into Mac and of course a much heralded Myrtle Beach Bowl.

Dan Patrick (46:08)

Yes, they that game was over in the first quarter. They should have called it Murdered beach instead of Myrtle. Okay, okay. Thank you, Todd.

Paulie Fusco (46:17)

He would sit on that murdered beach room.

Dan Patrick (46:19)

Yeah. By the way, Todd getting a pie in 10 minutes. 10 minutes. Synchronize our watches. Something Todd did not do on Friday.

Todd (46:27)

It was up to me. It'd be about 12 and a half minutes.

Dan Patrick (46:29)

Thank you for the phone call, Bruce. Rich in Wisconsin. Hi Rich. What's on your mind?

Caller (46:36)

Hey, dad.

Dan Patrick (46:37)

Hey, Rich.

Caller (46:37)

5959, 62 year old Buck 60.

Dan Patrick (46:43)

Hey.

Caller (46:46)

Best of the weekend. Actually best of the year. I got to hang out and see you guys in Vegas at the F1 race. Worst of the weekend Packers. Nothing more to be said.

Dan Patrick (47:02)

Yeah, they did every. They did their part in losing that game. Unbelievable. Or you. It's like the Bears, I think they finally just said do you guys want to win this? Because if not then we're going to win this. And then all of a sudden Caleb throws the touchdown pass. You got love in the concussion protocol. Matthew in San Antonio. Hi, Matt. What's on your mind? Hey Matt. Bye, Matt. Dave in Minnesota. Hi, Dave. What's on your mind?

Caller (47:38)

Good morning, Mr. Patrick. This is Sleepy Dave. Actually I don't know. That was from quite a few years ago and I haven't called in for a while but. 6, 1, 2, 60.

Dan Patrick (47:51)

I got it.

Caller (47:52)

Best and worst. I got a few best which Minnesota Vikings. That's kind of controversial because wish kind of they would lose so we could get a better draft pick. But also definitely the Illinois State Redbirds in the Division 1 FCS going on to the championship game. And I have to say the worst was definitely Mac Metcalf. That just unbelievable.

Dan Patrick (48:25)

Yep. Thank you, Dave. Sleepy Dave. Yeah, DK Metcalf. I think he'll get suspended for them this day in sports history.

Paulie Fusco (48:34)

Paul, Dan, before that. I can't forget about the famous Idaho Potato Bowl 2:00pm Eastern today. Oh, that classic time slot of 2:00pm on a Monday.

Dan Patrick (48:42)

Who's playing.

Paulie Fusco (48:43)

Oh, you know, I mean, you know, you're saying. Yeah, the nation.

Dan Patrick (48:46)

Yeah.

Paulie Fusco (48:47)

Washington state versus Utah state.

Dan Patrick (48:49)

Okay.

Paulie Fusco (48:50)

And the famous Idaho potato.

Dan Patrick (48:51)

Okay. All right. I'll watch. Of course. Absolutely.

Paulie Fusco (48:55)

Sports history. 1943, sporting goods manufacturers got permission from major league baseball to use synthetic rubber in the core. Baseballs. Guess what they used before that? Anybody? The center of baseballs. Old tire rubber.

Dan Patrick (49:10)

Old tire rubber cushion.

Paulie Fusco (49:12)

Cork and yarn. Oh, yarn.

Dan Patrick (49:15)

I was actually going to say yarn was going to be. That was going to be all that was in the middle of that.

Paulie Fusco (49:20)

There you go.

Dan Patrick (49:20)

Old tire rubber. That sounds like that was a pitcher back in the late twenties.

Paulie Fusco (49:25)

John. Old tire.

Dan Patrick (49:26)

Remember old tire rubber. It was a good one.

Todd (49:29)

Untouchable.

Dan Patrick (49:30)

Thank you, Todd. Day after his dad passed away in 2003. Brett Favre throws for 399, four touchdowns in that win against the Raiders as pretty magical night. He was just throwing it up and they were touchdowns. Let's see. Anything else?

Paulie Fusco (49:49)

Let's see. Cordell Stewart, 1996 of the Steelers ran a touchdown 80 yards, the longest scoring run by a quarterback in NFL history up to that point. I don't know if there's been one further or longer 80 by a quarterback. Didn't Daniel Jones run for 80 and get tackled?

Dan Patrick (50:05)

Well, no, he tackled himself.

Paulie Fusco (50:07)

I was trying to be nice.

Dan Patrick (50:08)

Yeah. Statute of limitations is over. So we can make fun of him. That's where you're good. I think you had people going, yeah, look.

Marvin (50:20)

Unbelievable.

Dan Patrick (50:22)

And he was running like 22 miles an hour. And then all of a sudden, the turf gods got him. Tripped him up. Yeah, Paulie.

Paulie Fusco (50:30)

The record is 93 yards by Terrell Pryor of the Raiders. How about that?

Dan Patrick (50:35)

Yeah. Let's see. Let's go around the room. What we learned on the program. Toddler who gets a pie in a about five minutes from now. Todd, would you learn?

Todd (50:45)

We're very confused as to why the Ravens stopped handing the ball to Derrick Henry down the stretch against the Patriots.

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I kept thinking, where is he? And I look over and he's standing next to Lamar Seaton. Voting closes tomorrow at 11. Yes. AM Eastern. Yes for the most valuable, least valuable. Danette. Marvin Ross Tucker is your hero. He's a good guest. Paul.

Paulie Fusco (51:06)

Old man Rivers.

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