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Hour 3 – Stage Production Value, Jim Jackson

The Dan Patrick Show

Mon May 05 2025

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Podcast Summary: The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 3: Stage Production Value with Jim Jackson

Episode Details:

Title: Hour 3 – Stage Production Value, Jim Jackson
Host: Dan Patrick, iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network
Release Date: May 5, 2025
Guest: Jim Jackson, Fox and Turner Basketball Analyst

Overview

In this engaging episode of The Dan Patrick Show, host Dan Patrick delves into the evolution of stage production in live concerts, reminiscing about iconic performances from the 60s and 70s. The discussion highlights the contrast between the minimalistic setups of legendary bands and the extravagant productions seen today. Later in the episode, NBA analyst Jim Jackson joins the conversation, shifting the focus to basketball insights and current league dynamics. The blend of music nostalgia and sports analysis offers listeners a comprehensive and entertaining experience.

Stage Production Value: A Journey Through the Decades

Dan Patrick opens the discussion by reflecting on the evolution of stage production at concerts, particularly emphasizing the transformative years of the 70s. He contrasts the raw musical performances of bands like Led Zeppelin with the more elaborate shows that emerged later.

Key Points:

Minimalistic Beginnings: Patrick notes that bands like Led Zeppelin focused primarily on musicianship without relying heavily on stage effects. He recalls watching Led Zeppelin perform, stating, “there wasn't a... a little more stage presence” (Timestamp: [05:13]).
Emergence of Elaborate Shows: The conversation shifts to bands like Kiss and Pink Floyd, who pioneered the use of pyrotechnics, elaborate costumes, and synchronized light shows. Patrick shares memories of Alice Cooper’s stage antics, including the use of a guillotine and snakes, enhancing the theatrical aspect of performances ([06:16]-[06:57]).

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Iconic Performances: The Rolling Stones’ mid-70s concert featuring Jagger in a football uniform with a phallic stage prop is discussed, highlighting the blend of shock value and entertainment.

Dan Patrick ([07:21]): "I saw him when he was the Thin Duke, where he came out dressed in all white and Alice Cooper."
Contrast with Contemporary Acts: Patrick compares these classic performances to modern artists, noting that while today’s shows can be visually stunning, the emphasis on musical talent sometimes takes a backseat.

Dan Patrick ([09:12]): "Even the Sphere, if you get an opportunity to see a show in the Sphere in Vegas, do it like it's trippy."

Notable Quote:

Dan Patrick ([07:42]): "How was the music? And you know, Zeppelin, as great as they were, there wasn't a... I think when they did that documentary, that video for Song Remains the Same, then it felt like there was a little more stage presence."

Guest Segment: Jim Jackson on NBA Insights

Midway through the episode, Dan introduces Jim Jackson, a respected NBA and college basketball analyst. The conversation shifts seamlessly from music to sports, offering listeners expert analysis on current NBA trends, player performances, and team strategies.

Key Topics:

Clippers and Nuggets Analysis: Jackson provides in-depth coverage of the Clippers' future prospects and critiques James Harden's performance, noting inconsistencies that have affected the team's success ([28:00]-[31:33]).

Jim Jackson ([27:55]): "When he was engaged early, like in Game six, he was a difference maker. In Game seven, that same engagement just wasn't there."
Top NBA Players Discussion: The duo debates the top five players in the NBA, with Jackson highlighting Steph Curry, Nikola Jokić, Giannis Antetokounmpo, SGA (Scottie Barnes), and Anthony Edwards. They discuss the merits and areas for improvement for players like Luka Dončić and Jason Tatum.

Jim Jackson ([33:13]): "I think Steph’s a top five player. I still think he is."
Future of Player Contracts: The conversation touches on the possibility of players earning $100 million per season, with Jackson speculating on potential candidates like Andrew Wiggins.

Jim Jackson ([37:24]): "If he's Wiggins, like we think, I think he'll be that guy that gets $100 million because of where he's tracking right now."
Load Management and its Impact: They explore the modern trend of load management in the NBA, comparing it to the relentless playstyle of past eras. Jackson emphasizes the challenge of balancing player health with the league's demand for constant performance.

Jim Jackson ([40:12]): "The product is dependent upon the superstars playing. But how do you enforce that?"

Notable Quotes:

Dan Patrick ([31:17]): "How do you think crowds are going to react when somebody's making 100 million and they're in street clothes?"

Jim Jackson ([40:49]): "You gotta meet [young players] where they're at and talk to them in that basis."

Interactive Listener Engagement

Throughout the episode, Dan encourages listener participation through phone calls and poll questions. Topics range from brand preferences, like sunglasses indoors, to personal anecdotes about concert experiences. This interactive segment fosters a sense of community and keeps the conversation dynamic.

Examples:

Poll Questions: Listeners are asked about their views on wearing sunglasses indoors and pet ownership, with results shared live.

Todd Fritz ([17:57]): "What are our thoughts on sunglasses on inside?"
Listener Stories: Callers share their favorite concert memories and reflections on stage performances they attended.

Paulie ([07:21]): "Paulie would love to know the meeting that Kiss had..."

Conclusion and Teasers

As the episode wraps up, Dan teases future topics and upcoming guests, maintaining the show's momentum and encouraging listeners to return. Advertisements for sponsors like Sleep Number and Wells Fargo are briefly interspersed but are kept minimal as per the summary guidelines.

Closing Remarks:

Dan Patrick ([44:10]): "That is Jim Jackson, former NBA player, 14 years in the league and works for Fox. And Turner covers the Clippers as well."

Key Takeaways

Evolution of Live Performances: The episode offers a nostalgic look at how stage production has evolved, emphasizing the balance between musical talent and visual spectacle.
Expert Sports Analysis: Jim Jackson provides valuable insights into current NBA dynamics, player performances, and future trends, enriching the show's content diversity.
Engaged Community: The interactive segments highlight the show's commitment to engaging with its audience, making listeners feel part of the conversation.
Balanced Content: By seamlessly transitioning between music and sports, the episode caters to a broad range of interests, maintaining listener engagement throughout.

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Dan Patrick (2:58)

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on FOX Sports Radio final hour on this Monday. Hope you had a great weekend. Everybody's here. Fritzi Seaton, Marv Paulie, yours truly in the back room. Guys, more phone calls coming up. Best and worst of the weekend, as we always do. 8-77-3DP show spent a good portion of the show so far. We talked about the Rockets. They got a bright future there. We talked about the Clippers. I don't know what that future is. And James Harden, a no show. Once again, the Nuggets. I didn't think Joker played that well, but they got help from, you know, supporting cast and the bench. Jim Jackson, Fox and Turner basketball analyst. He'll join us coming up. But the warriors close out the Rockets. Nuggets close out the Clippers and the Pacers take Game 1 against the Cavs tonight. Knicks at the Celtics, Game 1, Nuggets at the Thunder. Stat of the day is always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. The Premier League run is live on NBC and streaming on Peacock. It's the race for Europe and it intensifies. Coming up on Saturday, the Premier League run in is live on NBC and Peacock, which is where you can see this program every morning, Monday through Friday. Download the app if you haven't done so. We stumbled upon light shows at concerts and I'll go back to the 70s. I didn't see any concerts in the 60s but saw shows in the 70s. But I was looking at some videos yesterday of Led Zeppelin and there's nothing going on. It's just, you know, some of the great individuals, you know, frontman, guitar player and drummer in rock and roll history. But there's no stage presence. I think they tried to do a light show, but I think it was a guy with a handheld light show going on. Kiss. That was a big stage production. The who. I saw the Rolling Stones and I don't know what year it was, maybe mid-70s. And that's when Jagger was wearing the football uniform and they had a phallic symbol that came out of the stage and obviously a big stage performance there. The who, they. That felt. I'm trying to remember though, because you didn't go to a show and go, boy, did they put on a incredible light show. It was just how was the music? And you know, Zeppelin, as great as they were there, there wasn't a. I think when they did that documentary, that video for Song Remains the Same then it felt like there was a little more stage presence. But people have come up with different thoughts there on who else was. Had a big stage like where it's like, oh, there's a lot thing. Pink Floyd, definitely. And I don't know if anybody ever saw the wall when they. They build the wall during the concert is. But I saw them when they. They put out an album called Animals. And I just remember they had floating balloons that were shaped like animals. And I thought, wow, that's pretty cool. You know, fish concerts, they have a lot going on there as well. Yes.

Dan Patrick (19:20)

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Jim Jackson (27:55)

Man, it's. It's a tough one because I'm. I'm really close to the situation because I cover the Clippers all year and this. This year, Jan, I just thought this was. With everything coming together, Kawhi coming back, James basically manning the ship the entire year until, oh, you know, to the games where Kawhi came back along with Evita Zuba to improve immensely, was up for, you know, most improved player of the year. Then Norm Norman Powell, who was up for six, man of the year. And going into this series, I knew Denver was going to be tough just because. And despite, you know, firing Michael Malone, they were just connected a little bit different. They've been playing not as well down the stretch of the season, but they. It was just something about him. And James was up and down in this series. When he was good, he was good. When he wasn't, he wasn't. When he was engaged early, like in Game six, he was a difference maker. In Game seven, that same engagement just wasn't there. And a lot of what happens with the Clippers is based around the temperament of James and what I mean, his body language. When he's really aggressive offensively, the team tends to follow that. I thought the first quarter was great. I thought, okay, I said, okay, we got something here. Game seven in Denver. But too many mental errors and mistakes limited to that. And James never found his rhythm. And I thought this year, Dan, if any, this is when he could have quieted a lot of that noise about lack of playoff success, especially in Game seven. Because with with Dan, James didn't have to go score 25, 30 points, but if he gives you 18 with 10 assists, 12 assists, and he's controlling tempo and he's getting guys the ball and he's actively being defensive minded, then a lot of that narrative and out of that noise, a lot of that chirping, a lot of people now say, well, James has done a great job leading the Clippers and. But that didn't happen. And as a result, a team that I thought could get to the Western Conference finals, you know, lost to a. A great team. And with the Nuggets, would you rather.

Jim Jackson (40:56)

But it wasn't. But it was. See, at the time, it felt bad because it was new, but it wasn't as much as it was strategical when he did it, especially when it got later in the year getting ready for the playoffs. He knew his position, and he knew that, okay, maybe we're not the number one seed, but we're good enough that in that first round series, we get the game on the road, we got home court Advantage. That's what he used it for, in my viewpoint, my opinion. But at the time that he did it, it was so new and he was so honest with why he was doing it. Just shocked everybody. But you think about this, Dan. It's. And my son is 32 and I grew up, you know, au side and social media with him. You gotta meet these young men and women, where they're at, what they know is what they know that's in front of them. How I played 82 games in the 90s and rough and fist. They don't. They understand it. They, they saw it, but they don't have a reality of it because their reality is what they see now. So I gotta meet them where they're at and talk to them in that basin. My expectations are not limited, but I can't expect them what they're seeing when a see the problem is it's okay for a lot of guys that when they say you don't have to play, they're fine with it. They're fine with it. And, and that is a problem. And how do you change that with a generation that has grown up seeing that and knowing that it's okay to miss games? When I was coming in, it wasn't okay. One, because you were worried about one, losing that position in that spot, you know, and the perception wise that you. I think we took at that time, it was a pride thing to see how many, how close you could get to playing 82 games. That was a badge of honor. But a lot of the participants today don't look at it like that is how good I can be in what number of games. And that's it not and that. But that's not all Anthony Edwards wants to play. I mean you can't. You got to rip him off the court. So, you know, it goes both ways. And it'll be interesting to see with this new crop of young players that are going to lead the league. Shea Alexander, he loves to play. Okay. That they want to be out there on the court and if it adjusts a little bit more. And I hate the conversation too about why should we have to peel back and shorten the season. I mean, you can't do it anyway because the TV is too much money. Those 82 games matter. You take off 10, that's. That's money lost. Millions and millions of dollars lost. That's not going to happen. Why don't think they get rid of the All Star Game and all of that is money. It's tied into your TV contract. Why you think they're adding into. You know the play in and you know the postseason because it's part of tv. So you can't. You're not going to shorten the season.