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Dan Patrick
In six months hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing With a Star. So where else are you gonna find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything. Listen to Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Consider this is a daily news podcast, and lately the news is about a big question. How much can one guy change? They want change. What will change look like for energy?
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Tom Verducci
Drill baby, Drill schools? Take the Department of Education.
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Dan Patrick
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Follow coverage of a changing country. Promises made, promises kept.
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
Or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up everyone? It's Justin Pennik from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast with Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We roll three times a week. On Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays, breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're gearing up for the NFL playoffs. I hope you can join us. Join in with us three times a week. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and you will be glad you did.
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Tom Verducci
You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Final hour on this Wednesday. It'll be busy. Hall of Famer Joe Thomas. We'll look at the conference championship games coming up this weekend. He'll stop by. We'll talk to Tom Verducci, baseball Hall of Fame writer. There was one voter who didn't vote for Ichiro. Should the ballot be made public, we had CC Sabathia on. He said that he couldn't get Ichiro out. Ichiro hit.323 against him with eight home runs. He also said he couldn't get Eve Evan Longoria out either. I'm looking at some guy. This isn't fair to do this to a guy on the day, you know, day after he gets in the hall of Fame. Manny Ramirez, Aramis Ramirez, Derek Jeter, Mike Redman, Alex Castillo. They batted.500 against CC Sabathia. He did get a lot of guys out, though. But as he said, there's always one or two guys where you go. That guy dominated you. So we'll talk to Tom here coming up here in a moment. Phone calls are welcome. 877-3DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @DP Show Big Ten basketball and NBC Peacock. Next Sunday it'll be UCLA heading to Maryland, Big Ten basketball and NBC Peacock. It's always game time. Good morning though. If you're watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading the app and our radio affiliates around the country. Big game in the NBA at least for me tonight. Cavs in the Rockets and you still have some teams open for business. Cowboys, Jags, Jets, Raiders, Saints. I expect the jets job to be closed by the end of the week and maybe Mike McCarthy makes a decision if he has the opportunity. The Jags reportedly are looking at somebody with very, very little coaching experience. I think he's an offensive coordinator, maybe with Tampa Bay, but I saw that yesterday, which was kind of surprising. The Saints, Raiders, Raiders missed out on Ben Johnson and who knows what the Cowboys are doing. You got an update, Pauling?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, Adam Schefter and others reported the guy you just mentioned for the Jaguars gig, Liam Cohen. Yeah, he is staying with the Buccaneers as their offensive coordinator.
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Tom Verducci
He's turning down being a head coach with the Jags.
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Dan Patrick
I don't know if he was offered, but he said he's taking himself out of the running for the Jaguars head coaching gig to stay in Tampa On a new contract that will place him amongst the highest paid coordinators in the NFL.
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Tom Verducci
I just haven't finished my work here yet. Ben Johnson did this worked out okay for him. Ben Johnson gets introduced to the Chicago media. Oh, there's going to be a lot of fake laughter today, Paulie. They're going to. They want Ben Johnson to be charismatic and funny.
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Dan Patrick
He's playing to a home crowd.
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Tom Verducci
Yeah, he's. He's going to say something like, man, it's time to go to work.
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Dan Patrick
Coach, have you tried the pizza yet in our fair city?
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Tom Verducci
A lot of fake laughter today. A lot of fake laughter. Don't need to do that with Tom Bernucci. He's very serious. Very serious. He joins us on loan from ML.
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Dan Patrick
Funny at all, actually.
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Tom Verducci
No, no, no. He's got a nice smile. He just, you know, Tom. And great hair. He just not. He's not. Doesn't have the one liners that Ken Rosenthal has. MLB Network, Fox Sports analyst and a senior writer for Sports Illustrated. Good morning, Tom.
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Dan Patrick
Good morning. I don't know whether to compliment you on that intro or crush you, but well done.
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Tom Verducci
Reaction to the hall of Fame vote.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, not surprising. I actually had written my story before the announcement was made thinking it would be these three. Wagner got in a little higher than I thought considering he was just five short last year. And the Ichiro thing. One person not voting for them. Dan. It's not a big deal for me. I'm like, put away the pitchforks and the torches. It has no equation the worth of the player. Right. Mariano Rivera is not the greatest player in baseball history. Someone, I would like to know the reason. Don't get me wrong, someone must have a legitimate reason I hope, for leaving him off the ballot. I'd like that person to explain himself, but I don't get upset about it. No, it's not like ho take away his voting privileges because he didn't vote the way he's quote unquote supposed to vote. I'm not buying that.
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Tom Verducci
But should the ballot be made public?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Listen, we're in the business of journalism, business and transparency. When we get that ballot, we're able to check a box that says, would you like the BBWA to make this ballot public after the announcement? And most of us always do. Right. But it is a choice. It's not an obligation. I would have no problem with making it public. I actually, Dan, I would prefer that it all be public. But you cannot reveal your ballot until after the announcement is made. Can you imagine, like the Grammys Coming up, the Academy Awards, there was a running tracker of who was leading. No, I don't want that. I just want to hear the announcement when it's made of who won and what the vote totals were. I don't want it to influence the election and I want to hold off the surprise, frankly.
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Tom Verducci
Well, that's what it is with Heisman. They say, don't reveal your ballot. And I always wait until after and then I say, this is who I voted for and why I voted for them. But I look, I'm proud to have that opportunity, so I don't want to hide from it. I would just be curious why this voter didn't vote for Israel. Like what, what was it that, that bothered you? Or sometimes, as you know, voters will give a vote to somebody else so they can get a little bit of a boost because this other guy is already going to get into the hall of Fame.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I've heard of that in the past. It's tough to think that's in play this time. Dan. This was not necessarily a really deep ballot where you're fighting to keep guys on and the 8, 9, 10 spots in the ballot. Now listen, Ichiro, to me is a no brainer, right? 3,000 hits, 300 average, 500 stolen bases. One of only five guys that do that. A handful of guys, but I mean, he does have the lowest adjusted OPS for any count. Corner outfielder in the hall of Fame. He was a singles hitter who didn't walk and didn't hit for extra bases. You want to hold that against him? I don't, but I like you, I would like to know what it was. You know, it's interesting. He came up for the Japanese Baseball hall of Fame ballot as well and only pulled about 93% over there. So I don't know, I don't know what's going on.
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Tom Verducci
Maybe bad that he left.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, there you go. He didn't, he didn't last long enough over there. I think he had a thousand hits over there. It wasn't good enough.
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Tom Verducci
Moving forward though, trying to look at starting pitchers and, you know, trying to handicap. How do you quantify, qualify these starting pitchers to be in the hall of Fame? Let's get rid of the guys you know are already in with Scherzer and, you know, you got Clayton Kershaw, maybe one. I don't know. Granky. I don't know. Is Granky a whole. Yeah. Okay, now what do you do?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, it's a great question because, you know, watching a guy like Cece, he's got traditional numbers. 3, 500 innings, right? 3,000 punch outs, 250 wins. That's kind of easy. But those, I don't want to say he's the last of them, but it's, it's far and few between. So you're starting to now, I think, see a really seismic change in voting. And I think Felix Hernandez is kind of the canary in the coal mine here. Right. His peak actually was better than CC Sabathia's. He just threw so many innings at 19, 20, 21 that he didn't last in his 30s. So now you're gonna have to look back and guys like Johan Santana, Brett Saberhagen, Dave Stieb, Kevin Brown, David Cohn, a lot of these guys who had really, really high peaks were among the best pitchers in the game for say, seven, eight, nine, 10 years, but didn't have the 3, 000 punch outs, 3,000 innings. There's a lot of guys, I think they're going to come into play as we go forward here, and very few like Sabath up.
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Tom Verducci
Okay, but is. Did Kurt Schilling come along on the ballot at the wrong time? Because if he was, if, if Schilling is on the ballot now, is he a Hall of Famer?
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Dan Patrick
You know, if he takes down his social media account and he stays quiet, I mean, really, that's why he's not in the hall of Fame. He opened his mouth and people didn't like it. I voted for him every year. To me, he was Don Drysdale with a better postseason. Kurt Schilling was a history changer. It's easy for me to vote for guys who change history. Cece changed history. Whether it was the stretch run with Milwaukee, all time legendary stuff, or he signs with the Yankees, huge deal, they win his first year there and he's the guy, the MVP of the alcs. Schilling changed history. We can think about games at the top of our head that he influenced. Essentially one himself that to me, is a Hall of Famer. And he was tracking that way until he ticked off a lot of journalists and said the wrong things. They didn't.
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Tom Verducci
But how much is that supposed to factor in tomorrow?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I don't think it does, Dan. I think, listen, I didn't agree with what he said, but I vote on someone's playing.
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Tom Verducci
But he didn't cheat the game. You got guys who cheated the game and we want them in the hall.
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Dan Patrick
Of fame with PEDs, Dan, it's. It really affects how the game is played, the competitive aspect of the game. The most basic rule of competing in sports is play fairly. You hear it on the playground, you hear it in Major League Baseball. Don't create an uneven playing field. What Shilling did as a player, I don't see any evidence that, you know what his. His political views, his social views affected how he played the game. So I'm with you on that. It's not to say that you ignore it. You can disagree with it, as I do, but doesn't mean you have to say, oh, therefore I'm not voting through the hall of Fame. Very interesting to see what happens now, because he's off the writer's ballot. If a room full of 16 people in a veterans committee, 12 of them think, yeah, we're going to look past what he said and put him in the hall of Fame.
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Tom Verducci
I'll leave you with this. With the Dodgers and the amount of money that they're spending, they're not breaking any rules. They're. If that's my ownership, I'm thrilled that they want to ensure we're going to have a great team. Is there any recourse with baseball of doing anything about this in the future?
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Dan Patrick
No, not now. They're playing by the rules, as you said. I mean, they have a billion dollars in deferred money, but Guggenheim, the company that owns the Dodgers, has about $350 billion in defer. This is pocket change for what they do and how they operate. And I think you have to look at the fact, too, Dan, that their infrastructure, right, their technology, their coaching, everything they do to create a working atmosphere for players is top of the charts. Great. And if you want to go to the postseason, you sign with the Dodgers. They deserve credit for creating this atmosphere similar to the Yankees in the late 90s. Right. Those are the advantage that they're operating with. Is it good for the game? I don't know. Listen, we all love Goliath. You're sitting here talking about the Chiefs every year, and people get tired of them. But we all like to also root for David against Goliath, right? So I think it's good for the game. But there already are owners around the game who can't compete even closely with how the Dodgers spend money, who say, we need a system that's different. And if you're talking about salary cap, just be prepared for not playing baseball in 2027, because every time that issue comes up and the owners want to stick to it, we have the game shut down. That's the history of labor negotiating.
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Tom Verducci
Always great to talk to you. Thank you. Tom.
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Dan Patrick
You got it, Dan. Thank you.
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Tom Verducci
Tom Bernucci, MLB Network Fox Sports Analyst senior writer for Sports Illustrated Jason in Arizona. Hi, Jace. What's on your mind today?
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Joe Thomas
Hi.
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Tom Verducci
Thanks for having me.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, No, I just think Tom just butchered that question. Like, is it bad for baseball?
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Tom Verducci
Of course it's bad for baseball.
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Dan Patrick
There's no way that they should just be able to circumvent the. There is a salary cap in baseball, and there shouldn't be able to circumvent it by deferring all that money. The biggest contract at the time in baseball history, just defer it all. And now you can use all that money to sign all these other guys, and there's no way you can tell me that Shohei and these other Japanese pitchers are not in communication with each other.
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Tom Verducci
Oh, sure. But, you know, baseball's allowed this until. And the players are getting paid. So this is going to be the owners locking out the players. If you think that's going to happen. And as Tom said, 20, 27. But if that's. That's. That's my ownership, and they're spending money, I love it. I mean, I'm not. If you're a Dodger fan, are you worried about an unfair advantage here? You're not. Now, do I like the other markets to be able to be competitive? I do. And they keep adding playoff, you know, teams. So maybe you get that in a shortened series where maybe you can knock off a team like that. But this is what the Yankees did, and the Yankees had all that extra money from the yes. Network. I mean, they created something that nobody else could take advantage of or did take advantage of. The Dodgers are kind of doing the same thing. Yeah. Paulie, did you want to play.
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Dan Patrick
Let's play the Dodgers payroll game. We haven't played that in a couple of years, Dan.
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Tom Verducci
All right, so going into next season, what's the Dodgers payroll?
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Dan Patrick
Yes. Rejected payroll as of right now.
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Tom Verducci
All right, Todd. $427 million.
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Dan Patrick
Okay, I'll give you a hint. A team like the St. Louis Cardinals is at 148 million, and they're kind of in the middle of the entire league.
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Tom Verducci
All right, Seaton Dodgers payroll next year?
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Dan Patrick
I'm going to say it's almost exactly double what Paul just said. 400. And was it. Would you say 448 million? Yes. Something like that. I'm sorry, you said 148 for the.
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Tom Verducci
Car for the Cardinals.
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Dan Patrick
Yes, 148.
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Tom Verducci
Yeah. Sorry.
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Dan Patrick
That's what I'm trying to say.
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Tom Verducci
So you got so it would be.
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Dan Patrick
Double what the Cardinals is.
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Tom Verducci
280 million.
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Dan Patrick
Maybe closer to like 326.
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Tom Verducci
326. 326, Marvin.
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Joe Thomas
312 million.
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Tom Verducci
I'm gonna go 358. 5.
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Dan Patrick
$369 million for the Dodgers.
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Tom Verducci
Epic.
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Dan Patrick
In comparison, the Mets are at 297, Phillies 288. The Yankees 284.
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Tom Verducci
Okay. What is the lowest payroll in baseball estimated for 2025? It's not Oakland because. Or Sacramento. Now they. They're actually spending money.
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Dan Patrick
Ish. They're at 74 million. Second to last.
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Tom Verducci
Okay. Okay. So they're not last. Yes, Marvin.
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Dan Patrick
I'm gonna go with the Marlins at $34 million. It's the Marlins at 67 million 34. Those are my Marlins.
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Tom Verducci
Yeah. Hey. But every five years, I win a World Series.
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Dan Patrick
So I'm with C. And.
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Tom Verducci
I also have an issue with the.
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Dan Patrick
Playoff system expanding the Marlins. I'm almost certain. I'll take a pie to the face if this is true.
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Tom Verducci
Why?
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Dan Patrick
I don't think they have a division title. I don't think they've ever won a division. Division title. But they have two soup. I mean, two Super Bowls, two World Series championships. That's ridiculous. He's correct.
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Tom Verducci
You're fired up here over the Marlins.
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Dan Patrick
So they get in with 84 wins.
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Tom Verducci
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
They end up winning the World Series.
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Tom Verducci
Yeah. They were kind of the Diamondbacks before the Diamondbacks. This last Diamondback team that went to the World Series. Just get in. Yes, Paul, but if you don't have.
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Dan Patrick
Things like this, you don't have the Eli Manning Super Bowls.
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Tom Verducci
If you don't have wild card.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, Wild cards.
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Tom Verducci
I think the packers were a wild card with Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, great.
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Dan Patrick
Wild card.
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Tom Verducci
Yeah. Well, you don't like the wild card. You like you won your division.
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Joe Thomas
Yeah, I'm kind of into that, baseball wise.
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Tom Verducci
Oh, okay.
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Dan Patrick
I'm a purist.
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Tom Verducci
Well, remember when they used to just have one divisional like you? You won your division, you got to go to the World Series. Oh, I'm with that. Are you just two teams at the end of the year?
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Dan Patrick
The two best teams in the National.
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Tom Verducci
League, in the American League? Yeah. Yes, Todd, when the Dodgers and Braves.
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Joe Thomas
Played in the same division, that made a lot of sense.
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Tom Verducci
Well, the Dodgers, Braves, and the Reds all in the NL and it was a National League West. The Reds in Ohio and the Braves in Atlanta. They're in the West. Yes.
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Dan Patrick
When you look at, like, these websites and they have the payroll things and it says total Payroll.
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Tom Verducci
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
And then right next to that, it says active payroll. So the Marlins say their total payroll, according to this, right, is about $43 million, but their active payroll is almost $29 million. Oh, is that the stuff that, like, they're still paying out, like, oh, we signed this guy, but we owe him a million dollars a year for the next five years. So that goes in the active. That goes in the total payroll for this year.
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Tom Verducci
I'm guessing active payroll is just, well.
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Dan Patrick
These are the guys we're really playing.
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Tom Verducci
Yes. Feels like that feels like a significant.
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Dan Patrick
Amount of money that goes over.
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Tom Verducci
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
Yes. Paul, wouldn't it be great one time to be on an inactive payroll, paid to not do anything like a coach that gets fired and has three more years on his contract? The National's total payroll this year is $75.2 million. Their active payroll is $49 million. That's almost twice as much.
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Tom Verducci
How times have changed. Did you see Bryce Harper at the Ohio State? Yeah. I didn't know he's a big Ohio State fan. Me neither. He had his, I think, an Ohio State Buckeye letter jacket on. He's from Vegas. Like, how did he end up a Ohio State fan? All right, let me take a break. Joe Thomas, hall of Famer, will join us. Coming up, we'll talk about the AFC NFC title games. Is he chiefed out back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey, it's Steve Covino and I'm Rich Davis, and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio.
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Dan Patrick
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Tom Verducci
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Dan Patrick
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Tom Verducci
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Dan Patrick
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Tom Verducci
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Dan Patrick
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Tom Verducci
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Joe Thomas
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Tom Verducci
More phone calls coming up. Update the poll results. Joe Thomas is the only player in NFL history to play in more than 10,000 consecutive plays without interruption or injury. The NFL record 10, 363 snaps. Sounds pretty impressive. I don't know what it means, but you're. Are you the Cal Ripken of offensive linemen?
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Joe Thomas
I'll allow you to call me the Cal Ripken of all of the NFL if that's what you want to do. Dan, you can put the words in my mouth. I'm okay with that.
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Tom Verducci
Okay, but how many times were you aware of this streak, when you played, I was, yeah.
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Joe Thomas
So it was probably like year six or seven when I realized, huh, you know what, I don't think I've missed a play yet. And then our sports information director, Dan Murphy kind of looked into it and was like, hey, you're right, you haven't missed any plays. And oh, by the way, I don't think anybody's done that ever since they started keeping track in like 1999 or something like that.
- [26:44]
Tom Verducci
But how many times did you go out there just to keep the streak alive?
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Joe Thomas
So I never actually willingly like said, oh, I'm ready to take a break and oh, but I got the streak on the line, I got to go back out there. But certainly towards the end, as I was getting closer to 10,000, which is kind of a big milestone, I thought, you know what, hey, if, you know, my shoelace breaks or I lose a chin strap, do I call a timeout? Do I just like go and quick call a timeout so I can save the streak and just deal with the coach yelling at me on the sideline? And I think to myself, you know what, after nine years of doing this, I think I deserve to waste at least one time out if I had to with something goofy like a shoe gun tied or like busted the chin strap or, you know, something with the equipment malfunction happens.
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Tom Verducci
I had a former college coach, well known college coach, and he was talking about developing running backs because we don't use them the way we once did, but maybe there's a comeback with that with Derek Henry or Saquon Barkley, but also developing offensive linemen, that the way the game is played in college, that we're not developing offensive linemen the way that we once did. Your thoughts on that of what you see with offensive linemen now as to, you know, when you were at Wisconsin?
- [27:55]
Joe Thomas
Yeah, it's a much more wide open game in college and in high school especially. And I think because of that, the guys on the offensive line are not really taught the breadth of techniques that we were when I was in college and when I was early in the NFL, where you have to learn so many different ways of blocking blocking. You're blocking man's concepts, you're blocking double teams and gap schemes, you're blocking inside zone, you're blocking outside zone. And then also you have your drop back pass, you have your three step, your five step, your seven step, your play action, your boots. So you have this huge catalog of techniques that you have to learn that they just don't do. That quite as much anymore. And they don't put as much pressure on the offensive lineman, which is probably a good thing because it takes a long time to learn all these different techniques. But I think they've really dumbed it down and at the high school and college level. And so because of that, at the NFL, you see guys that they've got great technique, they're stronger, they're faster, they're more athletic than ever, but they don't have those pro style catalog of techniques that they used to. And so when you're asking them to do a bunch of different stuff, like NFL offenses, do they struggle in a lot of different ways because it just takes a lot of time and a lot of reps to develop that. And, oh, by the way, we have less preseason time, we have less contact time in the off season and through training camp. And so you have less time to actually develop those techniques that you need the most.
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Tom Verducci
What is it about a couple of these tackles that get off the ball? Like, it feels like they're moving before they're supposed to be moving? Lane Johnson kind of mastered this, but are. Are they like, is it illegal? Should it be flagged?
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Joe Thomas
No, I think the problem is, for decades, we were used to seeing the ball snap. And then after the ball is about almost between the center's legs, we see the offensive line move. And defensive linemen were moving at a similar slow pace. Well, somewhere, I don't know, maybe middle, beginning of my career, defensive lineman realized, hey, if I can beat that offensive tackle off the snap and get ahead of him, now he's playing catch up to me. Now he's back on his heels, and then now I can dictate whatever I want to do in my rush. At the point of contact, he's off balance. I can either bull rush him or I can push, pull him. I can rip to the outside, I can move to the inside, but I've got him right where I wanted. And so offensive tackles started realizing, hey, the secret to winning the rep is to win the snap. And that's what we started emphasizing. And so then you started hearing guys and seeing guys anticipate when the snap was coming. And so when you listen to a snap count, which is really important from a quarterback, I had a lot of quarterbacks, 20 quarterbacks that I blocked for that were starters at Cleveland. And the first thing that I would try to train these guys up on is, all right, we need a rhythmic cadence so that I can anticipate when you're going to call for the ball And I can start the process of my brain telling my body to move, which there's a little bit of a lag time. It's not like the speed of light, but it's pretty fast. But that little split second of lag between when your brain says go and your body goes is enough of a difference maker. That is the determination of whether you win or lose the snap and whether you win or lose the rep in a pass pro. And so I would actually tell myself, like Lane Johnson and all the tackles that you're seeing doing a good job of it. I was telling my body to go before the call from the quarterback, which made the timing absolutely perfect. So if you actually look at it for a lot of these guys, the second the ball just starts to move before the snap even really happens, the tip of that football just starts moving. That's when they're moving and that's a perfect rep. And to the naked eye, it probably looks like they're jumping in their false starting until you slow it down on film and you see, oh no, that was actually perfect. Because if they don't do that, that's exactly when the defensive linemen are moving.
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Tom Verducci
Okay, but give me a for instance, your quarterback line of scrimmage. When do you know that ball is going to be snapped? Because if he goes, you know, Green 57 said hut, hut.
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Joe Thomas
Like, yeah, so if it's on one, you'll hear the snap count. It's actually like a rolling cadence. So we used to do wide 80, wide 87. So all those things kind of roll together. So when I would hear wide 80, wide 80, set, I was actually going on the set before the hut, which was actually the calling for the football. And so you had to also stay on top of your center because if he was trying to get a head start, now all of a sudden the ball is coming before the quarterback and everybody else is ready. And so that's why it's really important that the quarterback's cadence and how he rolls into the hut and when the center is snapping, the ball is all perfectly in sync and perfectly the same from one snap to the next so that I can win. And the defensive lineman is a little bit behind.
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Tom Verducci
Spent 11 seasons with the Cleveland Browns. Works for the NFL Network. Joe Thomas, hall of Famer. And you're working with Colt. Explain what Colt is.
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Joe Thomas
Yeah, Colt Firearms, they have made the Safety Impact Award to try to encourage safe and responsible firearm ownership. And myself, Clay Matthews, guy went against a lot, probably thought I was false starting quite a bit when he was playing for the Packers. Adam Vinatieri and Fletcher Cox. We're all trying to raise awareness for safe and responsible firearm ownership. We've all selected a nonprofit charity, mine the Great Ducks Unlimited, which fights for wetland restoration and clean water, clean air throughout North America. And we're raising money for those organizations. And all people have to do is go to safetyimpactaward.com they can vote for those organizations. It's $1 per vote. And then when you vote, if there's a safety, which you get the little pun there on words. If there's a safety in the super bowl, people that voted for the winning charity have a chance to win a portion of $100,000 from Cordova. So you get an opportunity to get a free prop bet in the super bowl and get to cheer for a safety, which is my wife's favorite play. So I'm always cheering. Happy wife, happy life.
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Tom Verducci
Give me the quarterback who would be the toughest to block for.
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Joe Thomas
So there's always this conversation, I just had this with Lane Johnson a couple weeks ago about would you rather block for a quarterback that's mobile, that you know, if you get just flat out beat, like you just fall on your face and the guy runs past you, is able to make that guy miss and turn it, you know, chicken salad and, you know. Or chicken, you know, what in the chicken salad and. Or would you rather have the guy like a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady who's exactly in the right spot every time? He's not really going to avoid anybody, but he's throwing that ball on time. And for me, I always preferred the guy that was in the right spot getting rid of the football on time because then I knew I could do my job right no matter what. And like, I always wanted the onus to be on me to make sure that I did my job the right way. And I don't really care what the quarterback does, but if he's in that spot, he's going to be protected. But some guys, they prefer the guys that can get out and move. You know, the Jaden Daniels, the Jalen hurts, the guys that, hey, you get beat, and all of a sudden he's going to make a great, amazing play and convert a first down. And then all of a sudden, instead of the coach putting you in a headlock and giving you a noogie on the sideline, he's patting you on the back and say, hey, it's okay. You'll get him next time, buddy.
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Tom Verducci
But Mahomes is not like Jaden Daniels Or Josh Allen, he's. Or even Jalen hurts that like he's just unique because I always call him an opportunistic quarterback. He's an opportunist. Like it. I'm not. There's no design runs, but if there is a run, I'm going to be taking advantage of that. But then we also get to this point, where is he flaunting the protecting the quarterback when he's out of the pocket? If you were the NFL, would you make any tweaks to that rule next season?
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Joe Thomas
Absolutely. And I have been banging this drum for a while because I do not blame Josh Allen because he does that a lot too. I don't blame Patrick Mahomes. I just think that's they're doing a good job of utilizing the way the game is officiated right now. However, the NFL absolutely has to make a change with how they officiate the roughing the passer with how they officiate, the giving yourself up to slide for quarterbacks, how they officiate guys at quarterback like Patrick Mahomes did last weekend, where they look like they're about to go out of bounds and then they stop and then the defense hits them and then they fly out of bounds. And I don't even necessarily blame the court, the quarterbacks or the officials in this case. It's just how it's being officiated. Because if you look at the rule, they're saying that when a quarterback starts to slide, that's where the ball should be placed down. So the moment he starts to slide, that's where he's down. And it was a way of a quarterback being able to give themselves up when they're in open field without getting hit at all. And it was supposed to happen way before contact was ever made, but because officials were placing the ball like in the middle of when they started their slide, they were giving him these extra yardage after they had started sliding. And because of that, now you see quarterbacks doing these late slides. They're trying to get as close to a defensive lineman as they can and then maybe look like they're going to slide and then keep going. And it puts defenders in tremendous conflict because you don't know what the intentions of the quarterback is. And the intentions should be very clear by the letter of the law and the letter of the rule from the NFL. They should be able to understand well in advance from a defensive standpoint if that quarterback has given themselves up or not. And the fact that it's not happening and we're getting late slides, we're getting fake slides. We're getting quarterbacks that pretend like they're going out of bounds and then they don't. It's actually become a very dangerous play. We saw that with Trevor Lawrence earlier in the season. Now, his wasn't quite as late, but because of this difficult quandary that we're putting the defenders in, whether they don't know what the quarterback is doing, and then if they don't make a play on. On the quarterback, they don't try to tackle them. Now they're a meme on social media for being a bozo and not trying to hit the quarterback and just standing there.
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Dan Patrick
And.
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Joe Thomas
And, you know, you have all these issues of not knowing what's happening. And so I think for the safety of the quarterbacks, which is, I think, in everybody's best interest, of course, we want to see Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen go at it this weekend. We don't want to see those two backups, like, we want to keep them healthy, but it needs to be officiated differently and there needs to be some type of penalty, maybe like they did in the NBA with the flopping and stuff, against a quarterback who's not clearly giving himself up well before he gets anywhere near making contact with a defender.
- [38:02]
Tom Verducci
Did you ever think you were really intimidating anybody if in cold weather you went out there with short sleeves on?
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Joe Thomas
No, no. It was definitely a peer pressure thing. It was an ego thing that came from a long, long time ago. But the one thing I will say to people that you know are always impressed because you always hear the announcers, well, the linemen are wearing sleeves. It's amazing. I actually felt that not wearing sleeves was warmer because when you wear sleeves, when you get sweaty, which inevitably you will now, that material's got water on it, sweat on it, and it's going to evaporate and make your arms colder. And so what we would do, and I'm sure they still do it, is if you wore bare arms, you put Vaseline, which helps cut the wind. It helps cut any of that evaporation that's going to happen. And then don't forget.
- [38:49]
Tom Verducci
Is that legal? Is that legal?
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Joe Thomas
As far as I know, I never got a flag for it. I never got fined for it. So I'm pretty sure it's legal. Defenders would do it, too. But I think the thing that we need to remember, too, is, like, underneath that shoulder pad and jersey that you're wearing, you're wearing, like a wetsuit. Like you're wearing the warmest possible thing on planet Earth. You've got a wool patch stitched up into your helmet that covers your ears. The sidelines have these giant jet blowtorches that like, they're so hot you can't even get near them. Or you. I've melted my shoes before. So it is plenty warm for those players. We do not have to feel sorry for those guys whatsoever on, on a cold day. Feel bad for the officials that don't get to go over there maybe, or the people that are working the sidelines or the fans certainly who don't have any of those heaters. But the players, they're just fine guys.
- [39:35]
Tom Verducci
He's Joe Thomas, hall of famer and 10,363 consecutive snaps without injury or interruption. See, you can't like, if you're sick around the house with your wife, like, she'll be like, oh, Mr. Consecutive Snap Streak is not going to be able to help us take out the garbage.
- [39:54]
Joe Thomas
Yeah, it works good with my four kids because I'm like, hey, kids, all right, you can get up, you can go to school, you're just fine, you know. Okay, I'm sorry you hurt your shoulder. You know What? I played 10 and a half years in the NFL without missing a snap. I think you guys can suck it.
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Tom Verducci
Up for one basketball once again. You can go to safetyimpactaward.com for more on what Colt is doing. The safety impact award. Great to talk to you again, Joe. Thanks for joining us.
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Joe Thomas
Yeah, thanks for having me on, Dan. If you guys want to go to my social media. Joe Thomas, 73. You can also find that link on my Twitter and Instagram.
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Tom Verducci
Alrighty, we'll take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learn what's in store tomorrow right after this. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports.
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Dan Patrick
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Tom Verducci
There was something sentimental when you like when, when you send it, it was like, do I send the heart now?
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Dan Patrick
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Tom Verducci
It's extremely pink.
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Dan Patrick
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Tom Verducci
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Dan Patrick
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Tom Verducci
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Joe Thomas
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Joe Thomas
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Joe Thomas
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Dan Patrick
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Joe Thomas
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Dan Patrick
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Joe Thomas
A lot of this Meme stock stuff is, I think, embarrassing to the Sec.
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Dan Patrick
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Tom Verducci
Show flew by today. Tomorrow's Thursday already. Now, how does this happen? Seriously? Yeah, it's crazy. Time flies. We probably had more fun on this show in the last eight months than I think we ever have. As far as content goes, guests, everything just kind of fell into a comfort zone that's different than it has been before. Do you guys feel that?
- [45:10]
Joe Thomas
Absolutely.
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Tom Verducci
Thank you. Todd.
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Dan Patrick
You asked the question, I gave an answer.
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Tom Verducci
Well, no. You could have said no. I mean, I, I would have been fine if you said, you know what, back in, you know, 2014, I thought we had a six month stretch that was better than this.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, that was, that was my honest assessment that.
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Tom Verducci
Marvin, what do you think?
- [45:28]
Dan Patrick
Oh, I agree completely.
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Tom Verducci
Okay, thank you, Marvin. Sports radio conversation. Yes, Paul.
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Dan Patrick
You know, it's when it's flowing, it's fun. When it's just conversation, you just rip and rip.
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Tom Verducci
It works, it works, it works. Just, I don't know, they're just weeks that go by or days that go by just so quick. And I think having fun with it, but having a lot of things to talk about, a lot of topics, it's.
- [45:53]
Dan Patrick
Very perceptive you feel that way.
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Tom Verducci
Thank you, Todd. You're such a sucker. You are.
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Dan Patrick
What was that? What was that?
- [46:02]
Tom Verducci
I don't know.
- [46:03]
Joe Thomas
Was it anything?
- [46:03]
Tom Verducci
You're better than that. Not much. Curtis in Illinois. Hi, Curtis. It's on your mind. Morning, D.P.
- [46:12]
Dan Patrick
Missed all of our two spending the time at the dentist with my daughter.
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Tom Verducci
So at what point is the cutoff between having to just extract a tooth like a hundy, or if you're talking.
- [46:24]
Dan Patrick
Like thousands of dollars for a specialist root canal for your kid? But then also I got an idea on how to prevent Patrick Mahomes from skirting the rule for the slide down is you can't slide for a first down. You either have to do it well.
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Tom Verducci
Before or well after. And, you know, make it the onus on the quarterback to slide five yards.
- [46:46]
Dan Patrick
Away from a defender. So there's never a question about it.
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Tom Verducci
Well, I think it's going to be, it'll certainly be addressed in the off season and I think it's got to be changed in the off season. If the goal was to protect the quarterback, then you need to have the quarterback help protect himself. It can't be up to the official, not all the time. At some point you got to be, I think, fair to the situation because somebody's going to get blasted one of these days and nobody's going to have any sympathy for you. Sam in St. Louis. Hi, Sam. What's on your mind today?
- [47:19]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, Dan, 5 11, 210 and my dog Titus, he's a big fan of the pennies bang biscuits. But I had a quick enter out for you guys for two future hall of Famers.
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Joe Thomas
The first one, the next unanimous hall of Famer will be Albert Pools.
- [47:42]
Tom Verducci
I'd have to look at it, but I, I don't, I can't sit here and go, of course, because I didn't think Mariana Rivera would be unanimous, but I thought Derek Jeter would be. Yes, Marvin, we were back here discussing.
- [47:57]
Dan Patrick
This and I don't think so Unanimous. I think he probably gets 92%.
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Tom Verducci
I think the Angels years, but the.
- [48:04]
Dan Patrick
First 10 years as good as you'll ever see.
- [48:06]
Tom Verducci
Yeah, that's true. I mean, that's why St. Louis let him go. They got the best 10 years out of him. Lucas in Virginia. Hi, Lucas. What's on your mind? Hey, Luke. Thank you, Luke. Andy in Rhode Island. Hi, Andy.
- [48:24]
Dan Patrick
Good morning, Dan, Dennis, what's up? Marvin and Fritzi. Dan, I have two quick things, but.
- [48:29]
Tom Verducci
I want to leave with this.
- [48:30]
Dan Patrick
Shame on that caller yesterday for trying to invite himself to New Orleans. I even Fritz, I can't invite himself over for dinner. So let's get that out of the way.
- [48:38]
Tom Verducci
Okay.
- [48:39]
Dan Patrick
And second, I did, I did want to do a quick start of the day without a rock theme, if that's possible.
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Tom Verducci
All right, today marks Kobe Bryant dropping 81 on 28 of 46 from the.
- [49:04]
Dan Patrick
Field, seven to 13 from the three.
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Tom Verducci
Point line to lead his Los Angeles Lakers over victory over to Toronto Raptors. Yeah, yeah, sounds like it's going to be easy, but it's not when the pressure's on. Kobe had 81 in the 18 point win over the Raptors on this day. Sports history. Speaking of which, Paulie, what else do you have?
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Dan Patrick
1951, Fidel Castro ejected from a Winter league baseball game in Cuba. After hitting a batter, he gave up baseball and became a politician.
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Tom Verducci
Oh, he became a dictator. Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
Trying to be friendly. I guess at this juncture, we can call it what it is. 1968, the NBA awarded franchises to Milwaukee and Phoenix. Bjorn Borg in 83, retired from tennis. Five consecutive Wimbledon Championships. Oh, this was a raucous halftime Show. Super Bowl XVII. 1984.
- [50:01]
Tom Verducci
Barry Manilow killing it.
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Joe Thomas
Boom.
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Tom Verducci
Killing it.
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Dan Patrick
1998, Minnesota's new NHL franchise, the Wild in 2006. I love these Kobe Bryant ones. They're every couple days. Lakers guard Kobe Bryant had 81 points against the Raptors.
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Tom Verducci
1968, when the NBA announced expansion franchises in Milwaukee and Phoenix, they had a coin toss for the rights to Luau Cindor. The Phoenix Suns lost, and they ended up with Neil Walk. Milwaukee got Luau Sindor. Let's see.
- [50:37]
Dan Patrick
How'd that work out?
- [50:38]
Tom Verducci
I don't know. I don't know. Never. Never heard from either one of those again. Yes. Ton.
- [50:42]
Joe Thomas
Is there nothing they could have come.
- [50:43]
Dan Patrick
Up with for something as significant?
- [50:45]
Joe Thomas
Is that a coin toss?
- [50:46]
Dan Patrick
That doesn't sit great with me.
- [50:48]
Tom Verducci
Well, it was fair.
- [50:49]
Joe Thomas
Coin toss?
- [50:50]
Tom Verducci
Yeah. It's either heads or tails.
- [50:52]
Joe Thomas
Tom, have all the players line up.
- [50:54]
Dan Patrick
And take foul shots. Whoever makes the most foul shots, that team gets them.
- [50:57]
Tom Verducci
Demarcus cousins on this day, 2018. 44, 24, and 10. That was when he was with the Pelicans. On this date in 2024, Joel Embiid scored 70. Dang. This is a good day to score a lot of points. Kobe gets 81. That's your this day in sports history. Let's see final results of the poll question. Seaton.
- [51:23]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, we got a couple of them up there. All right, let's see. Most people want the hall of Fame voting to be public that about 92%. Who could use a Super bowl ring more, Nick Sirianni or Jalen Hurts right now. That is at 50.
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Tom Verducci
50. I want to revisit that topic tomorrow. 50, 50. Yeah. Of all of these coaches, who needs a Super bowl win more? And maybe you put in the players as well. You could have one hour where the coaches and one hour where you have the quarterbacks if you wanted to. Let's go around the room. What we learned on the program. Todd, you learned anything today?
- [51:59]
Dan Patrick
I did.
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Tom Verducci
I learned a lot of things.
- [52:00]
Joe Thomas
One of which was CC Sabathia really.
- [52:02]
Dan Patrick
Liked playing football back in the day.
- [52:04]
Joe Thomas
But he chose pitching over offensive line.
- [52:05]
Tom Verducci
No rock, no block. Satan.
- [52:08]
Dan Patrick
Yep. No rock, no block.
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Tom Verducci
Marvin.
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Dan Patrick
Joe Thomas succumbed to peer pressure.
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Tom Verducci
Yeah, you got to wear the sleeveless uniforms. Paul, would you learn today?
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Dan Patrick
Joe Thomas, Rampant Vaseline user.
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Tom Verducci
Yeah, he said that nobody called him on it and defensive players used it as well. Todd, what did I learn today? This is one of the more fun.
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Dan Patrick
Ones we've had in a while.
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Tom Verducci
Steaton sat in the nosebleed seats at.
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Dan Patrick
The Yukon game last night and the.
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Tom Verducci
Guy near him actually had a bleeding.
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Dan Patrick
Nose, forcing him to leave the arena early.
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Tom Verducci
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Joe Thomas
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Dan Patrick
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Joe Thomas
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Dan Patrick
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Joe Thomas
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Dan Patrick
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Joe Thomas
Or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan Patrick
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