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Ebony
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Jason Fitz
App, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
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Ebony
Welcome to Pretty Private with ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm EBONY and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness. I'm Dani Shapiro and these are just a few of the powerful stories I'll be mining on our upcoming 12th season of Family Secrets. We continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. From tips for healthy living to the latest medical breakthroughs, WebMD's Health Discovered podcast keeps you up to date on today's most important health issues. Through in depth conversations with experts from across the healthcare community, WebMD reveals how today's health news will impact your life tomorrow. It's not that people don't know that exercise is healthy, it's just that people don't know why it's healthy and we're struggling to try to help people help.
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Jason Fitz
Themselves and each other.
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Ebony
Listen to WebMD Health discovered on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're looking for another heavy podcast about trauma, this ain't it. This is for the ones who had to survive and still show up as brilliant, loud, soft and whole. The unwanted sorority is where Black women, femmes and gender expansive survivors of sexual violence rewrite the rules on healing, support, and what happens after. And I'm your host and co president of this organization, Dr. Lea Tritate. Listen to the Unwanted Sorority. New episodes every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Rising
Hey, thanks for listening to the Covino Enrich podcast. Be sure to catch us live every.
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Jason Fitz
Weekday from 5 to 7 Eastern, 2.
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Buck Rising
To 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for Kavito and.
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Jason Fitz
Rich@Foxsportsradio.Com or stream us live every day.
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Buck Rising
On the iHeartrad app by searching FSR.
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Jason Fitz
The Dallas Cowboys are fighting in the most public of ways. And make no mistake about it, every single time Micah Parsons steps in front of a microphone, every single time Jerry Jones steps in front of a microphone, none of it is accidental. At this point, it is very clear. Mommy and Daddy are fighting. They are fighting in their negotiations and they are fighting in a wildly public way that we all get to see. And frankly, if you love drama, I'm here for every single second of it. It's Cavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio, but it's not really Covino Ritz. It's a Buck and Fits takeover of Covino and Rich. We're having some technical difficulties. We're working on getting Buck rising in. Buck will be joining us in just a minute. For clarity. I can see Buck, so I know that he didn't just bail on us because his birthday was this weekend and he was out gallivanting around the west coast celebrating like the elitist he is. No, I can actually see Buck, so we'll have Buck in just a second. But right now you don't have to be able to see anything. You can just listen and you're going to get all the drama you could possibly get in the Dall Cowboys. Now, where does this all come from? Okay, today, the big part, and you just heard Isaac talking a little bit about this is Jerry Jones sat in front of a mic. Now, Jerry Jones in front of a microphone has become at this point, the sort of moment that everybody holds their breath. Like, you know, when you sit at the Thanksgiving table that you get to a certain age with your memaw and your papa, like the minute they talk, he hold your breath a little bit, you're like, I'm not sure. This could go really wrong. That's how I feel every time Jerry goes to speak because you just don't know if you if it's going to go well or if it's going to go poorly. So when he sits in front of a microphone and he makes some very public comments about the negotiations with Micah Parsons, he talks about Micah not being available. He talks about having to be careful with these things. It's all about a statement. And I think the real statement Jerry's trying to make here is that his feelings are hurt. Like, think about Jerry and the way he does everything, okay? Think about Jerry Jones and the way he hangs out. Well, Jerry is one of those guys that. We all know this. Like, Jerry likes a little bit of respect. Jerry likes his billions. All right? Jerry likes to come out and have everybody just fall on a Jerry Jones. So when Micah Parsons went on a podcast last week and said, look, our camp wanted to get this deal done last year, our camp wanted to get the money going. Like, we wanted to make sure that everything was taken care of. And Michael Parsons says it's always complicated when it comes to the Cowboys. He's telling old man Jerry Jones down the road, you're making things complicated. So what did we expect? Buck is now with us. Buck, what could we possibly have expected from Jerry Jones other than to sit at the microphone and have some sort of a clapback? There is no world that exists where billionaire old man Jerry Jones ain't going to say something about Micah Parsons saying something about him.
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Buck Rising
He lives for this kind of stuff. And whether or not it's going to be to his detriment, obviously, we're going to have to wait and see how this all plays out. But, I mean, who do you. Who do you feel worse for in this situation than poor Brian Schonheimer? He's getting hired as the Cowboys head coach. He's sitting up there in his introductory press conference. Jerry's, you know, pointing at him off to the side, being like, you don't think I take risks? This guy's the biggest risk I've ever taken in not so many words. And now he's up there firing off pot shots at the star pass rusher, and the pass rusher is subtweeting him on social media because, of course, football season is back, and that means Dallas Cowboys drama is back. But it did. Did it really go anywhere at all? It's. It's going to be a lot of fun. Unless you're a Cowboys fan, then you're probably in hell.
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Jason Fitz
I can't imagine. Look, there are two. Two things can be true at once. Let me be clear about this. The Cowboys are going to sign Michael Parsons. He's going to get massive money. They always get it done. They got it done when everybody said they wouldn't get Zeke done. They got it done when people just. The amount of asinine, terrible takes. If you listen to somebody that told you that the Cowboys weren't going to sign Dak. Don't listen to him anymore. All right? Like, there's a level of stupidity that went into so many of these takes around the Cowboys. The Cowboys always get it done. They're going to overpay. And when. I mean overpay, they're not overpaying Micah Parsons. When they pay him, he's worth every dime they're giving him. They're overpaying because they've waited years to get the deal done. Right. Like, you have to acknowledge at some point that since if they had done Micah Parsons last year, then Max Crosby's new deal, Garrett Miles, Garrett's new deal, T.J. watts new deal, all of these things absolutely explode the market, right? So, like, if we're being honest, the Cowboys are going to get done. They're just costing themselves money. And if Jerry wants to cost himself money, who gives a damn? But the flip side of it is his buck. Like, every single time that it takes them too long to sign somebody, we all know what that means. Like, that means they're losing a little bit of roster flexibility. My issue here isn't that the. The Cowboys aren't going to get it done. I frankly don't even care that they're arguing about it. Like, as a lover of, you know, reality tv, I love the drama. Give it to me. My issue here is that the Cowboys have erased any wiggle room in error for roster construction because they overpay compared to what they could have gotten all these guys at.
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Buck Rising
And that's the question as to how long they'll be able to prolong their window of competitiveness. Right? And what even is there? What even is the. Is obviously the objective is to win the Super Bowl. Like, the objective should, year in and year out be to win the Super Bowl. I have no doubts that Jerry Jones wants to win the super bowl, but this is a question of can he control himself? Fitzy, this has just been the subject of great reporting done by Pro Football Talk and Pablo Torre about Roger, Roger Goodell having to get in front of ownership after Jimmy Haslam to Sean Watson out of a fully guaranteed contract and be like, hey, everybody, sit down in front of me. We're never gonna do this again. Okay, maybe we get in a little trouble because we're talking about this out loud, but we're never gonna do this again. And then Jerry does the Jerry thing, which is he gets attached to his guys and he overpays relative to the market, and they don't give themselves Margin for error. And we are going to hang on every word, every word that this man says because it's going to impact everything about the business of the Dallas Cowboys. The question is, can Jerry control him? Every time he gets up to the podium and is asked one of these questions, the answer tends to be no. The finances, of course, make it even more complicated.
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Jason Fitz
Well, and look, the part of this with the Super Bowl. I said this a million times. Cowboys fans, look, I say this with love. I really do. You're not special. Like, oh, the. Oh, my God. We haven't won a Super bowl since. Okay, you know how many teams haven't won a Super bowl in that amount of time? Just because you got a star on your helmet doesn't make you that special. Like, cool. You haven't won a Super Bowl. You and a bunch of the league haven't won a Super Bowl. So, like, every time Cowboys, the media sits there and, like, I know it's easy to pick on the media, but every time I turn on TV and they say, well, the Cowboys haven't won a Super bowl since the 90s, I'm like, okay, let's make a list of every team in the NFL that hasn't won a Super bowl in the 90s and ask how much I care that the Cowboys are part of it. Like, it's okay. You're just like everybody else. You're not special. What makes you special is you're a big brand. And, like, we're going to get into this some today. Like, there's a difference between being great and being a great brand. And they're allowed to be two different things. Like, you don't have to be the best car maker in the world. You got to be the most popular car maker in the world. The Cowboys are one of them. Like, they're one of the most popular brands in sport. Sports. Huzzah. Congratulations. Like, that's. You won that. That's the title you really wanted because that's why everybody pays attention to you. But, like, the fact that they haven't won a Super bowl in a long time, I just don't give a damn.
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Buck Rising
Fitzy, why are you yelling at them about that? They can't do anything about that. That's what they're supposed to do. That's what they want. Of course they're gonna. Of course they're gonna sit there and have that conversation. Like, I. You say you're shaking a fist at the fan. Be like, you're not that special. And they're like, I know. We just Want to be like, I don't get what.
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Jason Fitz
No, no, no. I genuinely think Cowboy fans. I think Cowboys fans believe that every year they walk into the season with an intrinsic right to be a Super bowl contender, and it's like, guess what? No, you're not. You're just not different. You're not different. Like, you're not different than the Patriots are right now. Okay? Like, the Patriots went through an era where things were a little different for them. But, like, you just. Who. Who cares? I don't care about the star.
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Buck Rising
No, no, but they. Because what you.
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Jason Fitz
You.
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Buck Rising
What you're saying is that fans should not expect to win on a consistent basis, no matter how unrealistic those expectations are. Ian's a Jets fan, for God's sakes. Jets fans walk around every offseason like they are entitled to win nine games, and then something happens and they do the thing and they're in hell afterwards. And they. And they sit there during their football season, they say, how foolish were we that we ever thought that this team, this franchise, who actually looks like it's being run pretty professionally here the last couple months, don't want to get too excited, but is moving in that direction. Like, you're yelling at Cowboys fans for not being special. They're doing the thing that every fan base does at this time of year, specifically. Of course they are.
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Jason Fitz
No, no, the. The Cowboys do that on, like, on a. Just a coked out level. Like, it's a much different level for Cowboys. Cowboys fans are.
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Buck Rising
There's more of them.
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Jason Fitz
You can't be mad at them because.
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Buck Rising
There'S more of them. I can't believe you got me in a position where I'm defending Cowboys fans. I'm so confused.
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Jason Fitz
Every one of us starts the year like we're at the local convenience store and we're waiting for a scratch off lottery ticket and we're all believing that we're going to win. The difference is that, like, most of us realize, like, Ian's a Jets fan. He knows by week five, he's going to have his heart ripped out and his team's not going to be any good. And then he'll come back to stop doing this. I'm a Raider.
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Buck Rising
Ian's a Jets fan. He knows he sucks.
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Jason Fitz
Just taking brutal punches to start the show right now. Look, I'm a Raiders fan. By week three, I will have to accept the fact that this team is going to suck. Like, that's just okay. And it's. And it hurts and it stinks and all this stuff But I don't sit there and just pound the floor like a child throwing a tantrum because I didn't win the lottery. Like, that's what Cowboys fans do every year when no other franchise. You have never heard a Jags fan sit there and say, we've never won the Super Bowl. Like, they understand they suck. All I'm asking Cowboys fans to do is understand that you live in the sea of mediocrity. Like, and that's where you belong, just like everybody else. Like, some years you're going to be good, some years you're going to be bad. That's the way it goes. You can't get pissed off every time somebody else wins a scratch off lottery ticket and it wasn't you. Like, that's just. It's the, it's a winning a lottery to have a winning football team.
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Buck Rising
Yeah, but you don't. That's not the way that they, you know that. That's not the way that fans think about that at all. Of course they don't think about it that way. But you.
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Jason Fitz
You're the one that calls out fan stupidity all the time. What's happening to this role reversal? We're having a.
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Buck Rising
No, no. I mean, because. Well, I. It's one specific fan bas a local team that thinks they should. That actually thinks that they should matter in the landscape of the NFL when they couldn't be a less relevant NFL franchise here in Nashville. And that's, you know, that's. That's a different kind of stupidity that I'm battling because it's, why don't we matter? And it's like, it's not that you don't matter, it's that they don't care. It's two different conversations. What you are asking of Cowboys fans is completely unrealistic. And the fact that you can't see that while still making demands at them this way, saying, don't hold our organization accountable. Don't get excited about the off season and the things that the cow boys fans and the brand should expect to be on a year in, year out basis. I'm with them. I'm absolutely with them. Truth to power, baby. Jerry. Jerry. Should be shouted down at every turn because that franchise used to mean something. And the fact that it doesn't means that they should be louder, not be relegated into this sea of suck that you're trying to send them away into. Absolutely not.
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Ebony
No.
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Jason Fitz
You don't get to sit there and cry about how bad your life is as a fan of the Cowboys because they haven't won a Super bowl since the 90s like you do. Like, oh man, the number of teams.
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Buck Rising
I grant you permission. Jason Fitz is trying to take away your God given fan right. I grant you permission. Let there be unrealistic expectations. It's July, baby. Football. We're back training camp, nobody's lost a game yet and the Cowboys are going to win it all.
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Jason Fitz
I don't mind the, the unrealistic expectations in July. I I mind the temper tantrum being thrown like a child that didn't get what they want at the local Chili's in December because their team has let them down. Like get kicked in the no places like the rest of us take it and move on. Like don't sit there and lament how bad it is for you to be a Cowboys fan when realistically you've won a lot of games, you've gone to some playoffs. Like things have gone pretty well. Like, it's just they've lost total perspective. They think that they deserve more than that simply because they're Cowboys fans.
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Buck Rising
I'm not buying it in I want it on record. In fact, it is on record because this is nationally broadcast radio that Jason Fitz would like children to be kicked in the no no places anytime they attend to Chili's. Yep.
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Jason Fitz
Writing it down right now, that's what.
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Buck Rising
I got away from the that's as much, that's as much learning as I've been able to take from this conversation other than Fitz is pissed at fans for being fans.
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Jason Fitz
You know what? I don't want to kick the child. I do think that like if we all got one good one good like run up kick at the parents, like there'd be less children. I'm the one. I'm the guy that does obviously doesn't have kids. I'm not making friends today. He's put right. We're just getting started. You'll hear from Jerry Jones as we continue this conversation. Also, just a philosophical question on when at some point do great athletes just get to be great athletes and why do they have to be the face of everything? We'll break that down for you. We're hanging out with you on Fox Sports Radio. But don't forget, if you're looking for your next job, you know it can be a lonely process. Let Express Employment professionals be your 1 connection to finding a job that fits job seekers at Express Employment Professionals ranked Express Best of staffing in 2025. That's pretty awesome for helping them find them a job. With more than 870 locations. Visit Express Pro to find an office near you. With Express, you have your own local recruiter as your advocate and your job search and job seekers never pay a fee. Every year, hundreds of thousands of people find meaningful work through their local Express office. Whether you're looking for a role in logistics such as warehouse positions, forklift operators or customer service jobs, Express has you covered. Express also hires for roles in it, general labor and grounds maintenance, and Express even has an access to jobs that aren't posted. You need that. Visit expresspros.com to get connected. Find your local Express office today@express expresspros.com Remember, there are no fees for job seekers. Let Express help you take the next step in your career. Visit expresspros.com He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitch. We're going to keep it going for Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio.
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Buck Rising
Through something like that is a traumatic experience. But it's also not the end of your life.
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Ebony
That was my dad reminding me and so many others who need to hear it that our trauma is not our shame to carry and that we have big, bold and beautiful lives to live after what happened to us. I'm your host and co president of this organization, Dr. Lea Tritate. On my new podcast, the Unwanted Sorority, we wade through transformation to peel back healing and reveal what it actually looks like, like and sounds like in real time. Each week I sit down with people who've lived through harm, carried silence, and are now reshaping the systems that failed us. We're going to talk about the adultification of black girls mothering as resistance and the tools we use for healing. The Unwanted Sorority is a safe space, not a quiet space. So let's lock in. We're moving towards liberation together. Listen to the Unwanted Sorority. New episodes every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness, the way it has echoed and reverberated throughout your life, impacting your very legacy. Hi, I'm Dani Shapiro and these are just a few of the profound and powerful stories I'll be mining on our 12th season of Family Secrets. With over 37 million downloads, we continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. I can't wait to share 10 powerful new episodes with you. Stories of tangled up identities, concealed truths, and the way in which family secrets almost always need to be told. I hope you'll join me and my extraordinary guests for this new season of Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Rising
Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved.
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Jason Fitz
San Diego Coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team. We need veteran players and we need young players like you're building A team from scratch. And so the succession plan of long term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community. When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile. The pouring rain, just watching the fans.
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Buck Rising
Jumping up and down, I think that.
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Jason Fitz
Was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life. Listen to San Diego FC behind the.
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Buck Rising
Flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jason Fitz
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey, we're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day 5 to 7pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to. And that's why we have a brand.
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Buck Rising
New podcast called Over Promised.
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Jason Fitz
You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show. We never get to everything honestly, because this guy is over promising things we never have time for. Yeah, you blubberlips. Blaming me. Well, you know what? It's called Over Promise. You should be good at it because you've been over promising women for years. Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're gonna be talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing.
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Buck Rising
About something or we didn't have enough.
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Jason Fitz
Time, it will continue on our after show called Over Promised. Well, if you don't get enough Cavino and Rich, make sure you check out Over Promise and also uncensored, by the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's gonna be the best after show podcast of all time. There you go. Over Promising.
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Buck Rising
Remember, you could see it on YouTube, but definitely. Join us.
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Jason Fitz
Listen to Over Promised with COV Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or.
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Buck Rising
Wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jason Fitz
It's Cavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio, but it's really a Buck and Fitz takeover. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz hanging out with you. We've been doing a lot of that this summer. Hopefully you've been hanging out with us. You can follow us on social media at Jason Fitz F I T Z at Buck Rising, which is R E I S I n G spelling out Buck's last name mostly so that when people get mad at his takes, they go straight at him. If you didn't like anything you heard in the last segment, it's all Buck's fault. And he' be the bodyguard on that, as he always is. And that's because he's actually like, you know, six one. He's built like a bodyguard.
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Buck Rising
I six two.
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Jason Fitz
Relax, you're six two.
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Buck Rising
I don't, I don't short you at four eleven. Don't short me five, nine and a half.
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Jason Fitz
Think, oh, five, nine and a quarter.
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Buck Rising
If we're again, fractions mean you're lying.
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Jason Fitz
Look, five, nine. No, no, no, no, no. Like I, I fought hard for that quarter of an inch. Like there's never a time that I don't want the extra quarter of an inch. We're coming at you live from the FOX Sports Radio studios. Nothing but class. Do your summer plans include a new job? Need to want to work with an expert in your local job market to.
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Buck Rising
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Jason Fitz
Just call your local Express employment professionals. Go to expresspros.com and express never charges job seekers a fee. Look, Scotty Scheffler doesn't need a job. He went out and won another tournament this weekend, which is just sort of what he does. But the funny thing is, Buck, I was sitting there at a bar and the guy sitting next to me said, man, he's the modern Tiger. And I keep thinking about the, the, the actions that we ask of the greatest, right? Like it is so often we sit back and we want the greatest to be more than just the greatest. We want them also to suddenly step up and become more than that. And in fact, Jordan Spieth talked about what makes Scottie Scheffler great. And you could perceive some of this was a little backhanded. I want you to hear what Jordan Spieth specifically had to say. This is how he handled the question about what makes Scottie Scheffler great. He doesn't care to be a superstar. He's not transcending the game like Tiger did. He's not bringing it to non golf audience necessarily. He doesn't want to go do, you know, the, the stuff that, you know, a lot of us go do corporately, anything like that. He's, he just wants to get away from the game and separate the two. Because I know that he, you know, at one time felt he was too much, that he was taking it with him. And you know, whenever he made that switch, I don't know what it, when it was, but, you know, to have his hobbies, he's, he's always with his family, they're always doing stuff. I think it's more so the difference in personality from any other superstar that you've seen in the modern era and maybe any sport bucket raises that question, like if he's great at what he does, why should he give a damn about being the face of a sport?
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Buck Rising
Well, he doesn't have to, right? That's the whole. I mean, Anthony Edwards got thrust into the middle of this conversation in the NBA and he was very content to say, no, I don't, to want. Well, I don't care if you want to be or not where if you're excellent, then we are going to hold you to a certain standard that your performance indicates that we should. This guy that you were sitting next to in the bar, I don't know if he had these statistics or these numbers at the ready when he mentioned that Scotty Scheffler is the modern day Tiger. But again, this is courtesy of the Athletic. With his Open championship win yesterday. Scotty scheffler won his fourth major 1197 days after he won his first. The distance between, between majors, numbers four and one for Tiger Woods. 1197 days, the exact same amount of time passed between the first major and the fourth major that they won. Scheffler is 29. He's only the fourth player to win the Open Championship, the US Open and the Masters before the age of 30. The other three are Tiger Gary Player and Jack Nicholas. So it's, it's tough to ignore the trajectory that this dude is on. Except, except the dude who is on said trajectory is excellent at ignoring it. Like he's really, really just about the game of golf and his family. And he doesn't want to be over celebrated. He's clearly confident, right? He's an incredible competitor. Everything that you hear about him, everything that you read about him indicates that he has this killer instinct, even if it doesn't quite show through the way the Tigers did. But if he's on the course and his competition is hearing it and they're fearing it because he's clearly in command of the situation, then what does it. If it's not broadcast onto the public stage? It's, you know, it's always funny because these conversations seem to vacillate between, oh, athlete X is too loud and too, too brash and to this and to that and if we don't get some of that behavior from our athletes, we start to want it a little more out of them. Like you're so good. Why aren't you talking more? Why aren't you carrying yourself a certain kind of way, which, as long as they go out there and are excellent at what they do, what does it matter? I mean, beyond. You know, obviously you want to. You want to make sure that your behavior is within the bounds of the legal limits, because some people can take those things to extremes. But on the whole, I mean, and, you know, other than Scotty Scheffler getting arrested that one time, like, it's not like Scotty's out here causing problems. He's just causing problems for everybody else on the golf course. I don't think they owe us any kind of public statement, like, all right, it's mine now. I'm the face of golf. I'm the king of the hill. I'm the next Tiger Woods. As long as they continue to show it on a regular basis, and people don't take that greatness for granted in real time. Like, you truly sit back and appreciate it, as opposed to immediately launching into these comparisons, not getting into, oh, is he the next Tiger? But, oh, my God, look at Scotty Scheffler out here dominating this way. And then after the fact, we can have these conversations. That's completely fine with me.
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Jason Fitz
I think the hard part about all of this is that for golf, particularly, the world seems to be looking for the next Tiger. Nobody's ever going to be the next Tiger. To me, like, it's fine. Let's just close that chapter and stop trying to assign someone the greatness of Tiger. Because it's not just about the greatness of Tiger. It's about the social phenomenon of Tiger. It's about all of the things that people that didn't look like Tiger before had had that he accomplished. Like, all of these things at once in a different era created a sensation. And I don't. I think at some point, Scotty Scheffler's job is to go out and be the best golfer he can. And he's been very adamant in his interviews that he cares more about his family and cares more about getting away from the game than he does about any of the other stuff. When you hear somebody say, well, he doesn't care about corporate things and blah, blah, blah, I'm okay with that. I just don't think that there's some great obligation, once you've ascended to become the best in your sport. It is not then your job to market the sport and make sure that the sport grows and make sure that the next generation is Inspired by you. Like, all of these things that we seem to want to assign to somebody, that's great. Just let it be great. Like, Scotty Shepler's job is to go out and win as many tournaments as he can. And he's doing that, and it helps him to win tournaments, to not be distracted by all the other junk. Then, my God, we should want him to keep doing that. Like, it is not his job to be a circus clown. It's his job to be a golfer. So once he's finished his round, I just don't think that there's any obligation. But we're. We're sitting here as a. As a general consumption audience just begging for somebody to stand up and be the face of everything we want. We want billboards. We want all of this attention. And I just. I feel like the best thing Scotty can do is go out and be the best golfer he can be. And if you love Dominic Dominance, Love boring dominance, then go for it. If you don't love boring dominance, then he's not going to be your cup of tea. But that's not his problem. That's yours.
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Buck Rising
In that. In. Yeah, but that's that. I think you hit the nail on the head. Like, the crux of the issue is we are projecting people that want that. People are projecting how they would behave if they were that good at golf. Right? They are projecting that kind of behavior onto their favorite athletes and be like, well, I. This is how I would be if I was as excellent as you are. If I was as. What did Jim McKay say on a broadcast the other day? I never thought I'd see. See a player as close to Tiger as this man currently is. If somebody said that about you or me. And as far as our golf game, we would be unbearable. We would be awful. We would be shouting for everybody to hear that we are the best in the world and that we, you know, that we deserve to be treated as such. Where's my red carpet? Bring me my, you know, bring me my frozen grapes and my palm leaves to be fan with the whole way through. That's not who Scotty Sheffler is. And that's completely. Okay. Okay.
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Jason Fitz
By the way, if you and I were just good at that, good at, like, putt putt, we'd be insufferable nonetheless, like, actual real golf.
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Buck Rising
Like, but if radio is my job and I can't figure out how to connect the last two times. Are you kidding me? Like, I can't even be good at my job, much less somebody Else's.
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Jason Fitz
I'm just imagining, like if you ever wanted a dynamic duo that would trash talk a child at putt putt, it's bucking fits. Like there's no doubt about it. Like we, if there was ever a duo that would remind a. A child that we're better than that child, it would be you and I. If we had a, a great round.
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Buck Rising
Of putt and then fitz it to a Chili's and kick it.
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Jason Fitz
No, I kicked the parent if the child was screwed. Okay, look, I, I am, I am just, I am spiraling here. Isaac, save us. Look, the question is, even if he wanted to be, could he be the face? We'll answer that. But first, Isaac, get us caught on what's going on. I don't have to save you because Jerry Jones was here today to save all of us. Jason and Buck. Yes, I'd like to publicly thank. I'd like to publicly thank Jerry Jones for just, you know, being himself settled down just a little bit.
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Buck Rising
Including that.
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Jason Fitz
Well, it all started with the situation of Cowboys star linebacker Micah Parsons. He reported to training camp today still without a contract extension amidst a series of eyebrow raising comments that Jerry Jones made today in the usual first day of training camp news conference. Including here, where Jones raises the hypothetical possibility of one of his players getting hit by a car. Complete with the coincidental but brilliant sound of an ambulance siren off in the distance. Listen closely. Contracts are four or five years, okay? There's a lot of water under the bridge. If you step out there and do something in the first two or three and get hit by a car.
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Buck Rising
Sicily.
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Jason Fitz
And so there's a lot to look at over a lot of years that could make a big difference. Have you ever heard of any clubs committing to players and then they didn't pan out after they committed to them? We have Jerry Jones and microphones. A match made in heaven. Anyway, NFL media just reported that Green Bay packers right tackle Zach Thom has agreed to a four year, $88 million extension that includes a $30 million signing bonus, the largest signing bonus for an offensive lineman in nf. Kansas City Chiefs head coach Andy Reid just announced that offensive tackle Juwan Taylor will begin training camp on the physically unable to perform list. Finally, in major League baseball, multiple outlets report the Kansas City Royals are calling up 45 year old pitcher Rich Hill for his 21st major league season. Jason and Buck, all yours. Oh, man. Jerry Jones is truly the gift that keeps on giving. He's Buck rising. I'm Jason Fitz. It's Buck and Fitz taking Over. Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio coming at you live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Don't Forget, for over 40 years, tire racks been helping customers find the right tires for the how, what and where for when they drive ship fast and free. Backed by free road hazard protection with convenient installation options like mobile tire installation. Sounds badass. Tire rack.com the way tire buying should be. Oh, we, I, I just let us right into that. To the tire rack play of the day. Apparently, we're gonna throw the tire rack play of the day up. And here it comes. Scotty Scheffler for birdie at 18 to get to 18 under par. The moment awaits to tap in Scotty Scheffler. He's now joined the company of golf's greats.
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Buck Rising
He is the champion of the Open at Royal Port Rush, 2025.
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Jason Fitz
That was beautifully done by Iowa. Sam. By getting that up for us as quickly as humanly possible, we appreciate him. Buck. Here, here's the, here's the thing.
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Buck Rising
Curtis radio, by the way.
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Jason Fitz
Okay, thank you. Okay. Well done, Scotty Scheffler.
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Buck Rising
Well done. I don't know who's whispering sweet nothings about Scotty Scheffler into my ear, but it's disconcerting.
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Jason Fitz
What is it? Or, or, or, or just maybe Buck kind of likes it here.
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Buck Rising
I mean, the, the, the hair on my arms is standing up. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I'm not sure what's happening here. I'm confused.
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Jason Fitz
Bit of both. Bragger that you have hair on your arms. Some of us shave our arms for our tattoos. Some of us don't, apparently. Look, if, if Scotty Scheffler was in front of you in line at Target, you would tell him to hurry up. Like, that's how, like, there's just, if you ever wanted a.
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Buck Rising
Who's standing in front of me? If they're not walking with a purpose or not moving, you know, with pace, I tell everybody to f off.
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Jason Fitz
That's probably true. I'm just saying, like, some people have it. Some people from a mile away, you're like, yeah, that guy, that's a rock star. And some people are just not rock stars. Like, Scotty is a incredible golfer. He's not a rock star. Like, I just, when you watch him, you don't look at him and think, oh, my God, I am just glued to the tv. What's the next thing he's gonna say or do? Like, I don't think Scotty, sheffler for all of his greatness, has the perf personality that necessarily is going to make people flock in from the streets because, oh, my God, Scotty Scheffler is on the 18th hole. Like, it's just. If you are a random casual that's walking by and golf is on, you are not suddenly saying, oh, my God, everybody stop there, Scotty. Like, it's just. There's a lack of star power for him. And that's.
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Buck Rising
No, you are speaking about this as somebody who called the Masters overrated, okay? Like, you are not in a position to be talking about this. The personality is not why people are going to stop and draw them to Scottish Scheffler. It's because he's an insane golfer. It's not about what he says or what he does or what he looks like or whether or not you'd shout at him if he wasn't moving fast enough in line at Target. Like, he'd be shopping at Target. Although he probably would based on the personality that you just described. It's the fact that he's won 10 straight tournaments in which he has a 54 hole lead. I mean, it's Tiger Woods. His. His longest streak was 36. But, like, Scotty Scheffler is insane. He is an insane.
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Jason Fitz
It doesn't matter.
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Buck Rising
He is a.
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Jason Fitz
No.
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Buck Rising
What do you mean it doesn't matter? What kind of ridiculous life came out of your mouth? What do you mean it doesn't matter?
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Jason Fitz
We don't flock.
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Buck Rising
You were too lucky in your Connecticut. I would grab you by your tiny little 411 shoulders and I would shake you like that, baby, in Chili's five.
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Jason Fitz
Nine and a quarter. Look, we, like. Let's just acknowledge what we are as a society. We don't want. We don't flock to greatness. We flock to great drama. We flock to great personalities. We. You know this like. Okay, are you gonna look me in the eye right now and tell me that you think that tat.
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Buck Rising
Want to look you in the eye right now? Our relationship is past that. The intimacy is gone. We don't look each other in the eye anymore.
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Jason Fitz
That's fair. Are you. What? If. If. If I asked you to whisper the. The name into my ear like sweet nothings of the greatest musician in the world, would you lean in and say, Taylor Swift? No, Matt. Probably not. No offense, Swifties. No offense, Swifties. All right, no offense. I'm just.
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Buck Rising
But I'm 31. I don't know.
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Jason Fitz
So you think that Taylor Swift is the most talented musician in the history of the world? Or is she the most marketable and really good at what she does in a way that to it because she has more star power and it just, it makes people gravitate to it. Like, this happens every generation. Do we really think that Axl Rose was the greatest singer of his generation? Or was there just this it factor to Guns N Roses? You felt like you had to stand there and watch. Do we really feel like Pearl Jam or Nirvana were the most talented people that had ever stood on a stage in their life? Or do we feel like maybe they were just the right personalities with the right marketing thing, with the right it thing that connected. Connection is what we flock to. People connected to Tiger and his fiery personality. Not just his greatness, but the other thing. I am the audience that matters here because I'm the person that would stop and be like, oh, Tiger's in playing the Masters. Let's just see what this looks like. Because, like, Tiger was a phenomenon. There is a point of Scottie Scheffler where you can be the greatest in the world and not be a phenomenon. Great example. There is a subway video that has gone out for years of one of the greatest classical violinists in history, Joshua Bell, standing in a subway in New York with his case out playing. And the next night he was playing a sold out Carnegie Hall. Like, you couldn't get a ticket to Carnegie Hall. And he was standing in the subway playing and everybody walked by him and nobody gave him a dollar because they're like, ah, subway trash. Look, look. Most talented classical violinist in the world according to some. And nobody trash. Like, like, I'm just being honest. Like, this is what as a society we reflect to phenomenon. It's like, it's the reason reality TV exists. We. We flock to phenomenons.
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Buck Rising
So, okay, why do I care about the world? But that won't make explain to me why on earth I care about that. Like what, what, what is what people are going to flock to? Like, love. I understand it's got great popularity.
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Jason Fitz
If you're going to be the face of a sport, if you're going to be the face of a league, you got to be a phenomenon. You can't. You can't just be great.
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Buck Rising
A phenomenon fits. He is a golf phenomenon. He is the closest thing to Tiger Woods. It's Tiger. Maybe he never ends up being Tiger woods, but that doesn't make him any less of a golfing phenomenon.
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Jason Fitz
He's the best vanilla ice cream you've ever had. He's still vanilla ice cream. Like at the end of the day.
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Buck Rising
You'Re still walking like Nashville. I'd take some vanilla ice cream, and if it can golf, too, then grind. Like, what do I care if I'm. If I want vanilla ice cream in that moment? And that vanilla ice cream is the best vanilla ice cream anywhere in the world at what it is that it's about to happen or what it is the experience of that vanilla ice cream is about to be. You know, I'd be damned. I don't care if any, you know, chocolate chip. You keep your. You keep your strawberry shortcake. Whatever the hell else you're eating. I'm here for the vanilla ice cream because it slaps.
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Jason Fitz
You know damn well if you walked in right now to an ice cream shop, you walked into the fanciest ice cream ice cream shop because you are bougie. And you're not going to the regular one. You go to a fancy ice cream gelato.
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Buck Rising
I don't eat ice cream.
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Jason Fitz
Okay? You go to the gelato shop and you walk in and the person behind the counter that's scooping the gelato says, we have the best vanilla you've ever had in your life. But right next to it was this wild, exotic flavor that you'd never tried before. You know damn well that you'd be like, well, that. That blood orange dark chocolate chip over there. I've never seen anything like that. I'm going to try that. You would go for the exotic flavor. You and I, you can lie to the world. You can't lie to me, brother. You and I, I both know you would go for the exotic flavor of ice cream, because at some point, we want exotic. Scotty Scheffler just ain't exotic. Like, the average person is not going to give a damn about the best vanilla ice cream they've ever had.
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Buck Rising
If he's not exotic, then why did it get me all hot and bothered while he was whispering Scotty Scheffler into my ear?
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Jason Fitz
Scotty Scheffler, Scottish.
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Buck Rising
Thank God this is simulcast today.
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Jason Fitz
I mean, I never would have thought whispering Scotty Scheffler would make Buck Risings. No. No place to say yes. Yes. But that's where we are.
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Buck Rising
Ice cream Bab. We're cooking today.
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Jason Fitz
The best vanilla ice cream in the world. Still isn't going to get people to flock in from the streets. I'm just saying. I'm just. I'm just calling them like I see him. I'll give you an example in another sport. All right? He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz when we come back, I'll give you an another example right now that we are seeing every single day of somebody that isn't the best, but because they're such a phenomenon, they're still a conversation piece every single day. We'll talk about it next. It's Buck and Fitz taking over Kavino and rich Scottish effort.
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Buck Rising
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Buck Rising
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Buck Rising
And so the succession plan of long.
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Jason Fitz
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Buck Rising
Flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jason Fitz
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartrade radio app. The line between greatness and importance is difficult to figure out because you can be the greatest in the world at something, and it doesn't mean that the world's gonna flock to you. You have to have it factor. And what do you do if the greatest may not have that? Is being great alone enough to make everybody pay attention. He's buck rising. I'm Jason Fitz. It's a Buck and Fitz takeover on Cavino and Rich. Obviously love the guys, by the way, for anyone that doesn't know, I've been friends with Cavino and Rich for almost a decade. So anytime that I can hang out in their time slot is an incredible thing. I thank the guys for letting us sit in here because I know it's a unique. It's a unique audience, right? Kavino and Rich, everybody that's listening, that's followed them from. From spot to spot to spot over the years. Like, I know your love for the guy. So I appreciate you guys giving Buck and I a little bit of time. Here's the thing, Buck is, is are we not living, eating, breathing, A great example of. Of great marketing can make a bigger sensation than simply being great. And the answer to this for me is quite simply Angel Reese. Like, I mean, if we're talking about great marketing, like, if we're talking about importance, there are certainly plenty of questions about where the greatness of Angel Reese lies. I'm saying that nicely because Angel Reese supporters will tell you that all the things she does in the game make her great. Angel Reese detractors will tell you, look at her, try and finish at the rim, and you know that she's not great. Right? Like, so wherever you fall on that debate, it doesn't really matter. Matter, because I've gone to a couple of WNB game, NBA games this year, and every time I go to the games, you know what you see everywhere? Angel Reese jerseys. You see them all over the place like, she's. People have flocked to pay attention, good or bad, to Angel Reese. And like, at some point you got to look at that and say, hey, she's certainly not the greatest, but she is a great talking point and you need those. I, I just, I, I continue to look at it and say, that is a great example of attention being paid to something that has nothing to do with simple greatness and everything with, do people find you polarizing or do people like talking about you? That matters as much as anything.
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Buck Rising
Well, no, it doesn't matter as much as everything because the thing that you can argue against is that the greatness doesn't live up to the marketing and that would indicate that the performance which you know is suspect in certain areas of her game. And I'm not going to pretend to know everything about Angel Reese. I'm not a, I'm not a die hard WNBA watcher. I wouldn't, I wouldn't come out here with strong opinions about Angel Reese with, with such a small sample size or just see a handful of highlights or lowlights on social media because people do like to do that to her. But everything that I know about the statistics of Angel Reese is that that does not match the level of interest in the player. But because she is interesting, that allows people in the attention economy to gravitate towards her. You're talking about two different things and conflating them as one is if you have to have one to have the other. You don't have to have great skills to be able to get people people's attention. You don't have to get people's attention to be excellent at what you do. Coming off the conversation that we just had about Scottie Scheffler, Scotty Scheffler does the thing that he is supposed to do as at the highest level right now. He's the best golfer in the world right now, for my money. I don't know that you could argue the point that anybody else would be put pushing Scotty Scheffler in his specific arena. And if Angel Reese is taking advantage of all the different things that, that she has and doing it organically, by the way, because I don't think like to me the interest in Angel Reese is not inauthentic because she's not inauthentic. She doesn't strike me as, she doesn't strike me as somebody who's putting on a show. So that authenticity also drives interest in her even if she's not the best player in the world because people will gravitate that towards that people will also have strong opinions against it. You can do both things. If you get the right combination of the two, then excellent. You vault yourself into a different level of star power than anybody that we've talked about yet today. But the level of importance of the attention economy, I mean, Fitzy, there are people on social media with millions and millions of followers that I've never heard of. I'm still trying to figure out and maybe this is me getting up there in age at 32, I turned 32 yesterday, I'm literally. I can see the grays in my beard happening. All right, The. The idea of the. The. This guy, that Sports center keeps posting on Instagram, like, I'm a hundred years old. Like, I'm supposed to know who the hell speed is. All these different things that this Internet sensation guy spe. I don't know who the. Who the hell is he? I look at his Instagram profile, he's got 45 million followers, and I don't know who the hell the guy is. So you can be as famous now as you could ever be without a good portion of the population having any idea of who you are or what.
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Jason Fitz
It is that you do, 100%. And if you're going to be the face of something, it's more important that people pay attention to you, that then you'd be great. I just. I don't believe at my core what you said earlier, that I disagree with this. I don't think simply being the best in the world at something truly matters. I. I mean, we see. Again, I'll go back to the music side. How many TikTok people are wildly famous on TikTok, and I watch their videos and I'm like, wow, this person kind of sucks. But, like, nobody cares. They're famous on Tick Tock. Like, it's just you. You see these people that are, like, they're fine. They're okay. I see it all the time on the music side. I see. I see violinists all the time that I'm watching thinking, ah, this person's okay. But my God, you look at the number of followers they have, and you're like, okay, you're doing something better than anybody else. Like, look, you might not be better than this. You might not win an actual competition. Greatest example, Rip. But even all the way back in the day, Charlie Daniels was a great man to me, and Charlie was. Was incredible. Every time I had the opportunity to interact with Charlie, Fine. Charlie Daniels would. It is a fine. Would flat out admit that he was a terrible fiddle player. Like, he would admit that to anybody, but nobody cared. Devil Went down to Georgia was a sensation. So when people walk up to people that play the violin and they're like, oh, man, you're almost as good as Charlie Daniels. They mean it as a compliment, but it's an insult because Charlie was not a great fiddle player. Like, he would have admitted that, like, at some point, it's not about being great. It's about being a great sensation. And there are times, like Tiger, where the two things collide they come together and you become a phenomenon. But I genuinely believe in the modern climate, it is more important that you be marketable than it is that you be great. Because the marketability at some point will be the thing that feeds everybody. Scheffler is great. He ain't marketable, so golf's just gonna continue to die with him. All right, wnba, big news over the weekend. I'll tell you about it next fits on Fox Sports Radio.
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Ebony
Summer's here and with the kids home and off to camp, it's easy for moms to get lost in the shuffle on Good Mom's Bad Choices. We're making space to center ourselves with joy, rest and pleasure. Take the kids to camp. You know what? It was expensive, but I was also thinking, you have my kid. This is kind of priceless. Take her, feed her. Make core memories. I don't have to do anything. Main thing, I don't have to do anything to hear this and more. Listen to Good Mom's Bad Choices from Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio.
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Jason Fitz
App, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
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Ebony
Welcome to Pretty Private with ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm EBONY and and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a you discover the depths of your mother's illness. I'm Dani Shapiro and these are just a few of the powerful stories I'll be mining on our upcoming 12th season of Family Secrets. We continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're looking for another heavy podcast about trauma, this is, this ain't it. This is for the ones who had to survive and still show up as brilliant, loud, soft and whole. The Unwanted Sorority is where Black women, femmes and gender expansive survivors of sexual violence rewrite the rules on healing, support and what happens after. And I'm your host and co president of this organization, Dr. Lea Tritate. Listen to the Unwanted Sorority. New episodes every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you your podcasts. From tips for healthy living to the Latest medical breakthroughs WebMD's Health Discovered podcast keeps you up to date on today's most important health issues. Through in depth conversations with experts from across the healthcare community, WebMD reveals how today's health news will impact your life tomorrow. It's not that people don't know that exercise is healthy, it's just that people don't know why it's healthy. And we're struggling to try to help.
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Jason Fitz
People help themselves, themselves and each other.
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Ebony
Listen to WebMD Health discovered on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast.