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Greg Olsen
This is an I Heart Podcast.
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Greg Olson, he's a Fox analyst, three time Pro Bowler joining us on the program. What was your your best salary in the NFL?
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Greg Olsen
I want to say towards the end of my career I probably was making 7 million and now the best tight ends in the league are making 16.
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Dan Patrick
Did you ever participate in negotiations, be in the room when they're discussing your contract? No, no.
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Greg Olsen
My, my agent, Drew Rosenhaus, I had him since I came out of Miami. He handled all negotiations. I mean, I was up to speed. He would call me and debrief me in pretty good detail along the, you know, along what was said and what the conversations in the back and forth. But no, I never participated directly. I tried to stay out of that and just let him handle kind of being the go between between myself and the organization.
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Dan Patrick
Why is Jerry Jones allowed to negotiate with Micah Parsons individually when I think the CBA says your agent has to be in there to you Know, negotiate.
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Greg Olsen
That's a great question. And I thought all along that was a very interesting part of the conversation. I know you guys now are bringing it up and discussing it. I don't, I don't know the exact reasons, I don't know the exact legalities of what's in the CBA by writing, but my understanding was always players can represent themselves. There's multiple players throughout the league for a long time that have negotiated their own contracts because they don't have a registered contract agent on file with the NFLPA or, you know, all that. So in that regard, you would work directly with the general manager of the front office to negotiate on your own behalf. But my understanding was if you had representation and that was filed with the, with the PA and all that, that they should be the go between. So I'm not sure the exact specifics, but I think it's a great question. I just think it adds to what we're seeing now. It leads to this. This is why players have agents and I know 3% is kicked around and that that's being now negotiated to a lower number for a lot of young players. And I get it, but this is why you pay the money to keep the personal animosity out of the way between you. These contracts get tough. Whether, whether you're Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen or Micah Parsons or a guy further down the roster, the team is going to use every bit of leverage they have. They're going to tell your agent or in this case yourself, reasons why you shouldn't make what you want. And then you're going to try to counter that and it's going to get testy. It's inevitable nature of negotiations. And that's why having that buffer in between keeps things from getting personal like we're seeing here in Dallas.
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Dan Patrick
More concerning, let. Let's take Micah Parsons out of the equation because I do think that deal will get done. The Trey Hendrickson with the Bengals or Terry McLaurin, which one is more damaging to that team's potential success this season?
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Greg Olsen
That's a great question. I would say Hendrickson up in Cincinnati just because we know how much conversation has surrounded the Bengals def. They fire the D.C. they hire Al golden, you know, the longtime college D.C. from Penn who was most recently at Penn State. I mean, at Notre Dame. I guess my question is, can that defense be. They weren't very good to begin with last year, and Joe Burrow had an unbelievable season and they still fell short of expectations with the whole emphasis on the offseason for them getting back into the likes of the Bills and the Ravens and, and the Chiefs to get themselves back in the AFC to that echelon with Joe Burrow. They can't do it without the defense getting better. And now you take away the sack leader, you take away your best defensive player. Can you assume that you're going to be back in super bowl contention to complement one of the best offenses in football? So I would say for them this is a significant storyline and if they can't figure it out what was already a weakness, now you take away your best player, you have to assume it's even worse.
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Dan Patrick
Help me understand why Anthony Richardson would be the bust and not the Colts general manager Chris Ballard. Because Anthony Richardson didn't take himself at 4 overall. The Colts did. They took a project that high who wasn't. He had glimpses in college, but you start him week one like I'm, I'm just trying to under. And the kid is 23 years of age and it feels like the NFL will move on from him.
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Greg Olsen
Yeah. And again, this is not an indictment of Anthony Richardson. I don't, I don't know the kid that well. I don't know the ins and outs behind the scenes there. But I will say this in credit to Chris Ballard. I think the best guys in the NFL, whether it's coaches, front office, personnel, general managers, when you know you've made a mistake, I think the teams that continue to double down, double down and prolong the this experiment end up finding themselves out of work. I think the best organizations understand, you know what, this was a miss and now this is a big one. Right. You take a top five quarterback, it sets your franchise back multiple years. But if you continue to push it down the road and said it's going to change, it's going to change. And I can't admit failure, I can't admit that I was wrong. Typically that blows up the entire organization and, and there's another general manager there. So I do give him a little bit credit. If behind the scenes him and Shane Steichen are saying, you know what we missed, he's not the guy. Daniel Jones gives us a better chance to win. I almost think that's the more difficult decision and one that they, if it was even close, Anthony Richardson, just because of his draft pedigree, would be the week one starter. So I think we see this all the time in free agency. The Eagles just won the super bowl and huffed their big free agent signing from the Jets. They paid a bazillion dollars and he didn't play down the stretch. And guess what? This year they shipped them off for pennies on the dollar to another organization. And Howie Roseman said, you know what, I missed on that one. But we're going to move on. So it's different when it's the quarterback, but the good organizations admit defeat. They admit when they were wrong, and you got to move on.
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Dan Patrick
I think that's really a great point, and I had not thought of that. And maybe that's what the Colts are doing, that. Yes. We saw two years and he's not our guy. Now maybe you can trade him to somebody and maybe he could. We're, you know, we're seeing this cycle now far more than we used to. Two years, maybe three years didn't work out. Now you go, you're going to be a backup. And it's like almost the Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Geno Smith, you know, we'll, we'll bring you back around. Maybe it's a better coaching staff, maybe it's a better team, and maybe Anthony Richardson still has a future. We're talking to Greg Olsen, Fox NFL analyst, and you can tune in to Youth Inc. And Greg has a weekly podcast. He had Tom Brady on, Malcolm Gladwell on. And you're talking about sports and parenting and the next generation of athletes. How did you come up with this idea?
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Greg Olsen
Yeah, so it's actually been a really, a really fun project for us. You know, I'm a dad of three. I'm the son of a high school football coach from New Jersey, legendary coach out of the northeast, coached over 40 years, coached me and my brother. So I grew up in this world. Like when I was a young kid, the highlight of our life was playing varsity football one day for my dad. Fortunately, I was able to go on and make a career out of it. But now, as a father, raising three young kids in a very different youth sports culture than any of us remember and any of us really grew up in. And there was a lot of things that we were doing wrong, a lot of things that I didn't have a great idea of what the right path forward was for my sons and my daughter. And we said, you know what? There's a lot of really interesting people out there that have great perspectives and great lessons to be shared, and let's go find those people. So we've had a lot of really cool conversations. Our latest season that we, that we just dropped, you know, you mentioned Tom Brady. We had Malcolm Gladwell this year, this week and next week we'll have Ryan Day coming off the national champions, getting ready for that big Texas game and CJ Stroud and just some really fun and really insightful people that have really good experiences that can be great for parents, coaches, young athletes, people dealing with different adversities. We think it can really help a lot of people. And along the way, as the host, quote, unquote, I'm learning more than anyone and trying to implement a lot of these values and lessons into my own youth coaching and also into just my parenting.
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Dan Patrick
It's Youth Inc. And it's a weekly podcast. I was curious about this when we were going to have you on of how much of your job now as a broadcaster for Fox is your football knowledge and how much of it is the ability to understand tv.
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Greg Olsen
Well, I think it's a great question because I joke with my producer and director all the time. Like the football part, I always felt pretty good about. The football part I felt like I always understood and I saw and I really enjoyed talking the game and formulating different storylines to present to the viewer and letting them kind of unravel in real time during the broadcast. The TV part is the part I think all of us have to learn, right? You have to learn how to go in and out of commercial breaks. You have to learn how to talk to the truck. You know, I always joke like, still to this point day, when I want it behind the defense, you know, the fancy TV people call it, you know, I want the pit, you know, I want pit framing. I'm like, I just want behind the defense, whatever that is called. Give me that. So I'm still learning some of the nuance, the terminology, where all the cameras are. And I've gotten a lot better now going into my fifth year. But it, it's, it's very interesting. The football part, I feel like that's, that's the easy part. Making that fit into a three hour live broadcast. Talk in segments, talking sound bites, not talking over your play by play commercial breaks, ad reads. Fortunately, I've had great partners. I got Joe Davis now, who's incredible. Kevin Burkart before that. They handle all the TV and I tell them I'll just do the football part. So it's, I've been lucky in that regard.
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Dan Patrick
Well, you're on a play clock too, though, when you think about it, that you might have 12 seconds to describe something and then you got to turn it over to your play by play guy so he can do his job. And this is where Jim Nance is unbelievable because Tony Romo, Tony will kind of color outside the line sometime. And all of a sudden, you know, Jim's got a grab it at the last second and, you know, go third and eight, you know, so I understand the timing part of it, but so many guys that came through espn, these are legendary coaches and players. And I said, you got to understand tv. And even Rodney Harrison and Tony Dungy on football night in America, I said, you guys are rookies. You know nothing about tv. Listen to me and you'll do fine. You know football. But that's only part of the equation. They look at you go, you just talk. I go, no, if I. If somebody in your ear goes, hey, you got 20 seconds. Well, you don't know what 20 seconds is in real time playing a game. You do 20 seconds in TV, you're like, I don't know how long, how long am I going? You went 42 seconds. You're like, I did?
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Greg Olsen
No. And you're spot on. And the voice in your ear is an adjustment. Early on in my career. The natural, the natural instinct of anybody is when someone says something to you while you're talking, you stop and you want to listen. Well, obviously you sound silly on live television if you do that. To your point about play by play guys, there's no such thing as a good color analyst without a good play by play guy. They are the heroes of all of this. They are the professionals, quote, unquote. Like, they keep this train on the tracks running and give you the space and the breadth and the, and the leads to then talk about the things that they really know you're interested in or you feel good about and you want to take the broadcast. So it is more of a dance. It is a rhythm. It's ever changing. Every game has a different cadence. There's games that have a million penalties and a million commercial breaks and a million injuries. Those get super choppy. And then there's the dream games, which every play is a long, fluid drive. There's multiple first downs in every possession. You can really let some of these storylines unravel. You don't feel like you have to force it in because it's a three and out punt commercial. So again, it's, it's a. That the part of the, the part of the experience that I've enjoyed the most is the unpredictability of it where you don't. You have a basic idea of the matchup, you have a basic idea of the flow of the game, but then once it's kicked off, no different than a player. Nobody can sit there and say, I know exactly how this game's going to go and I'm going to talk about X, Y and Z in that order. Chances are that's going to be thrown upside down and then you have to adjust on the fly and make it sound fun and interesting.
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Dan Patrick
I had a couple of rapid fire questions before we let you go. Who feels more hall of Fame? Who feels more hall of Famey Matthew Stafford or Russell Wilson?
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Greg Olsen
Wow, that's a great question. Kind of interesting. Career arcs, right? Like Russell started out so hot and now down the stretch trying to find his way. Stafford obviously started in a perennially terrible team, got them a little bit better, and then has had his success later. Oh man. I think creatures of the moment Stafford, it feels like because just because the last memories we have of his or his teams have been more relevant as of recent Russ. For as amazing as Russ has been, a lot of, you know, his success can't. That's a really good question, but I think if you put a gun in my head, just recency bias would be Stafford, but I would probably make the argument that they both are deserving.
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Dan Patrick
If I take the names off the resumes, it's a no brainer. It's Russell Wilson.
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Greg Olsen
Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. The Pro Bowls, I think it's recency bias, which was kind of my initial instinct with Stafford. In my mind, there's no question that Russell Wilson is a Hall of Famer. I think everyone's going to try to use the last couple years of kind of bouncing, finding a home, but they forget just how dominant he was. I know Seattle was incredible. I know the defense, but that, that shouldn't be taken away in my mind. Russell's a Hall of Famer. The way you pose the question you posed was such a good one. I think the recency success of the Rams, the Super bowl and Stafford post Detroit, I could see that being the argument.
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Dan Patrick
Is Cam Newton a Hall of Famer?
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Greg Olsen
Yeah, in my mind he is. And I think you have to look past I don't know where. I have no idea where he stands in total yards passing and total touchdowns. I don't know statistically, which I know is a big part of that process. When you talk about changing the way the game is played, quarterbacks running the ball on short yardage, quarterbacks playing, you know, down near the goal line, the ability to still be a 4,000 yard passer from the pocket. When he came into the league, there was very few if any guys playing the quarterback position the way he played it and now there's almost no pocket passers left or there's, you know, burrow. There's a couple. But the game is played on the move. The game is played athletically both in and out of the pocket and Cam was at the front end of a lot of that.
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Dan Patrick
Great stuff. Great to talk to you. Hope you have a great season coming up. We'll check in with you and the podcast. It's a weekly podcast. It's entitled Youth Inc. With Greg Olson. Next guest will be Ryan Day. CJ Stroud is also on the guest list and he's already had podcast tape with Tom Brady and the author Malcolm Gladwell. Thanks again Greg. Great spending time.
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Greg Olsen
Thanks Dan.
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Mark Pryor
I'm doing well. It has been a while. Thanks for having me.
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Dan Patrick
What is your job during a game as pitching coach?
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Mark Pryor
Well, I mean, yeah, I mean basically, obviously I'm watching the game and then, you know, I'm tracking pitches, talking with the pitcher in between innings, talking with the catcher in between innings, seeing, talking and trying to figure out like what's working, what's not working, you know, do we have an idea what they're trying to do from an offensive approach with our pitcher and then maybe, you know, starting a game plan, you know, what's going on, what do we want to do the next time through, like who's coming up, how do we want to attack them? Do we want to, you know, do we kind of want to stay with the plan before the game? Do we want to, you know, do something different and audible change some things up and, and so those are kind of a lot of the in game conversations with your pitcher and with the catcher and then as the game gets going on and say your starter starts getting towards the end and the conversations with, you know, with docs start happening, we start kind of going over like how do we want to approach, you know, the end of the game, the end of the starters run, you know, do we need to get him out of the middle of an inning? If he finishes an inning, how do we, how do we set up our bullpen going forward, hopefully we got the lead and, and we've talked before the game, you know, myself, Doc, or bench coach or bullpen coaches, you know, who's available, who do we feel good about throwing. And so those, A lot of it's just an ongoing conversation as the game evolves and, and, and honestly, what the game is telling us, what do we need in that moment, and just making sure that we're prepared to make decisions because it happens fast. Once, once your starter's out, it happens fast.
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Dan Patrick
How much of your job is to be a therapist?
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Mark Pryor
There's a, there's a good percentage of it. Some nights it's, it's small. And then other nights I think it can, it can be a lot. And you're just trying to, you know, there's so much preparation that these guys do on a. Get diving, excuse me, on a given day, and they're always. Their bodies ready, they're always studying and making sure they're prepared. But as you know, you, you've covered sports like, you know, there's no script. Once you get, once the game starts, things happen. And it's getting guys to find a way to win ball games and find ways to get outs. And sometimes it's ugly and, and when it's ugly, obviously guys, and as athletes, you, you want to be. We're perfectionists. You know, we want things to go the way that we envision them to go. And, and sometimes that doesn't happen and, and we have to be okay with that at times. And you're just trying to get them to understand, like the job, what was your job? Did you do your job? And then let's pick up the pieces and move forward the next day. And you know, a lot of this game is, is mental and emotional. These guys are a really unbelievable elite athletes. But so much of it comes down to how can you maintain, maintain your emotions in the moment and how can you just continue to try to execute pitches to get the other hitter out?
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Dan Patrick
How many of your players, your pitchers, know your resume?
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Mark Pryor
I want to say, given that their cell phones are always at hand, I want to say there's at least they've googled me. At some point, certain key facts do, do come up where they are surprised.
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Dan Patrick
What will come up first, but that they would bring up to you.
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Mark Pryor
Usually it's, it's the infamous game in 2003 that'll maybe be on in the clubhouse and then all of a sudden they'll kind of put two and two together of, oh, you were the guy on the mound. You didn't, you know, we didn't know that. So that's always the surprise one where you kind of like, yep, that's me. That was 20 some years ago. So.
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Dan Patrick
But what do you remember about that? When you bring up the Bartman game.
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Mark Pryor
You'Re bringing it up. I'll bring it up.
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Dan Patrick
You. You brought up that. They brought it up.
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Mark Pryor
Right, Right.
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Dan Patrick
Now, I can follow up by saying, when I say that game and you're on the mound and you see that foul ball going over, what do you think?
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Mark Pryor
You know, just like, darn it. I wish, I wish we caught it and Marlins had a good team, they had a good run. So I, you know, it's, it's been so long ago that any, you know, I mean, it was obviously a game.
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Dan Patrick
I still feel, really think you said darn it.
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Mark Pryor
No, I didn't say darn it. I used a lot of other words. But I don't, you know, I think I pointed and said some things and, you know, I mean, look, it comes up every day in the games. I mean, it came up in the Giants Padre game yesterday. You know, it still happens. And it's, it, look, it's, it's the beauty of baseball that all these things can, through the course of time of this game and how many games have been played that plays like that still happen, and that's why it's great. It's played by humans. There's a lot of great things that happen. There's crazy plays that happen every night in the game. And so I think that's what makes people love the game. Because every single night you show up, things happen that you don't expect and then things that you think shouldn't happen because everybody's seen it happen before and you know you shouldn't do it, it happens again. So it's, it's the beauty of the game. It's. It's what, what draws people to it. It's what people love about it. But it's also what can be maddening at time, depending on which side of the fan base you're on.
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Dan Patrick
Talking to Mark Pryor, Dodgers pitching coach since 2018. Dodgers at the Rockies tonight at 8:40 Eastern. Who does Ohtani remind you of, pitching wise?
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Mark Pryor
Well, nobody, because nobody, Nobody hits as much as well as he does as a pitcher. Though I did see a stat the other day that Fergie Jenkins had, I think, 13 homers as a Cub. So I guess he had some, had some good power numbers, but just his.
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Dan Patrick
Pitching style, you know, it's a little bit.
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Mark Pryor
It'S got a little bit of Nolan in them like where he's just gonna, you know, and I know I'm dating myself, but I grew up watching Nolan and at the tail end of his career and you know, like he, if he wants to just rear back and blow it by you, like he's going to do it. And I think we've seen that where obviously he has a very good and a very nasty sweeper, but if he wants it, he's going to get 100 and he's going to throw it right past you. And I think the, the abad and hit and bat in Kansas City. I think it was like his second or third outing, you know, and he's been kind of in the mid-90s and all of a sudden, you know, guy comes up and he's like, here you go, here's 300 mile an hour pitches. And so, you know, you don't. We have a lot of guys who throw extremely hard in this league and so the velocity is not nothing or it isn't, isn't as exciting and, and unexpected, I guess is a better way to say it that it used to be. But all of a sudden this dude just out of nowhere is 100, 101, 102. And so that reminds me of watching Nolan when I was where it was just like, all right, I know he knows I'm throwing a fastball and here it is and see what you can do with it. And that's pretty cool. I mean it's, it's still as if as a coach it's one thing, but it's really, really as a fan to watch him do what he does is pretty awesome.
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Dan Patrick
How would you pitch to Ohtani?
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Mark Pryor
Well, as a pitching coach we tried unsuccessfully at times. You know, I mean, look, I was a two pitch pitcher so, you know, it's trying to move my fastball around and throw my breaking, try to change the shape and you know, I try to go, you know, up and in and slow him down, down and away and you know, just trying to use all four quadrants. I mean he's, is when he's in a, when he's in a groove, he, there's no pitch that he can't cover. And I think that's what makes him special. You can throw at 100 miles an hour up and away and he'll go backside left field, home or 20 rows deep. You can go down and in at 100. He'll pull a ball, he'll take off speed, you know, with ass out like he did the other day, completely, like, lost his entire body, and he still hits it 105, and it gets over the fence. So you hope that you catch. If you're an opposing pitcher, you hope that you catch him when he's in, when he swings a little bit off. But right now, it looks like he's starting to get his swing going again, and he's doing some pretty incredible things. And. And just the way he impacts the baseball, he. That's the crazy thing, is watching other big leaguers in the dugout marvel about how hard he hits the ball. And that's. That's the. The thing that is just, like, jaw dropping. It's not that it's the power and the average. It's this guy's. You know, it seems like he's averaging.110 off the bat every single time. And guys are like, big league guys are extremely, like, in awe watching how hard he hits the ball, even if it's an out. It's insane.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I. I remarked or marveled at that a couple years ago. If I'm just listening to guys hit. There are certain guys when you hear him hit that's different than everybody else, and he's one of those guys. Anybody else come to mind that when you. You hear that ball off the bat? You know.
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Mark Pryor
You know, Yeah. I mean, there's. A couple years ago, Ronald Acuna hit a ball. I forget it was like, either like 117 or 119 or something. He hit a ball at Dodger Stadium, and it just sounded like a shotgun. He. It was a homer to dead, and he. He can impact the baseball extremely hard. You know, Freddie. You know. You know, Freddie can move some balls forward all over the field, but when he impacts the baseball at times, it comes off really hot. I'm trying to think, you know, Machado, Tatis. But Judge is another guy, too. When he. When he connects, Stanton, those guys are. They impact the baseball extremely hard. And I'm sure there was guys when I played who hit the ball just as hard as they did, but it sure doesn't. You know, we didn't have the numbers to quantify it as much, but these guys, a lot of. A lot of players nowadays are really impacting the baseball. And, you know, it's scary out there. You're only 60ft away. So, I mean, it's. It's a little dangerous at times.
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Dan Patrick
Can you see a scenario in the postseason where Ohtani comes in in relief?
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Mark Pryor
It's a good question. Very fair question. And we've it's been discussed and it's really understanding kind of the rules of him coming in as a reliever and knowing that because of the rule, the way it's set up right now as a starter, he can come out of the game and still maintain as a dh. But he comes in as a reliever. You got to find that line of where hopefully the game ends because you can't put him in in six and then take him out as a pitcher in seventh and keep him in as a dh. So it would have to be a situation where it was probably, we think the game's over and he's closing or be okay with him not coming, not hitting anymore. So that would be really the only scenario. Can I see it? Absolutely. But it would probably be closer to the back end when the game's, you know, kind of on the line and and it would be over after he's done.
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Dan Patrick
Great to catch up with you again. Thanks for joining us, Mark.
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Mark Pryor
Anytime. I appreciate it. Thank you.
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Dan Patrick
It's Mark Pryor. Be sure to catch the live edition.
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Greg Olsen
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Dan Patrick
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Greg Olsen
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Ross Tucker
I'm Dan Byard. We have a brand new fantasy football podcast called I Want yout Flex. Twice a week, every Tuesday and Friday, we come up with new episodes to not only look back at what happened, what you need to do at that minute, and also look ahead of what's coming up in the fantasy football world.
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That's right, Dan.
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Dan Patrick
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Greg Olsen
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Dan Patrick
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Ross Tucker
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Dan Patrick
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Ross Tucker
I'm fantastic. I think I have better reception than that guy.
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Mark Pryor
I think I'm ready to go.
- [43:17]
Dan Patrick
Most interesting team in the NFL is who? Who.
- [43:24]
Ross Tucker
There's a bunch of different ways I could go with that one. You know, I think I'm gonna go with. I'm going to go with the team I just saw on Saturday, the Cleveland Browns. I'm fascinated by them. I said this today on the Ross Tucker football podcast, Dan. I think there's a real possibility, probably unlikely, but there's a possibility that they become the first team in NFL history to have four different quarterbacks start at least four games. Now hear me out on this, okay? First of all, when they made the trade with the Jaguars, the Travis Hunter trade to move down, pick up next year's first round pick, that that's a loud signal to everybody that we're looking at this over the next few years, we're not all in to try to win this year, etc. So we, we all get that. I understand why they're starting Flacco at the start of the year. They have a tough schedule. They can sell the vets that we went to the playoffs a couple years ago with him. He gives us the best chance to win. But they traded for Kenny Pickett for a reason. And I think deep down Stefanski thinks that maybe Kenny Pickett could be his Sam Darnold, his Baker Mayfield. I mean, neither one of those guys started to really click until they were on their fourth team. This is Kenny St. Third team. And I think in Stefanski's offense, I believe he thinks he can get Kenny Pickett to play at a pretty high level. I'm not sure I really believe that Kenny can do that. But then they also drafted a couple rookies and that's been well documented. Dylan Gabriel in the third round. They obviously like Shador Sanders, only played one preseason game in the fifth round. Buddy played well. People want to see what he has. So I think there's a reasonable scenario where Flacco starts the first. Let's call it three or four. They're 0313. Whatever they put, pick it in to see how he looks, take him for a spin, and then they want to try to find out about both Gabriel and Shador Sanders. Maybe they hit on one of those guys. Maybe one of them looks like a very good, inexpensive backup, but they kind of need to find out about both those guys before next year's first round where they have two first round picks, they might both be in the top 10. They're highly likely. If they didn't hit on any of these guys to get a franchise quarterback or try to in the top 10 next year. So the Browns might set a very interesting record in terms of the number of quarterbacks to start multiple games in a season.
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Dan Patrick
I always look or like to look at coaching staffs to see what decisions they make with their quarterbacks. Like the Giants with Brian Dable, Jackson Dart to me, makes more sense. I don't think they're going to be that good of a team. But these, you know, this coach wants to keep his job in a. With a very difficult schedule. The Colts situation, Shane Steichen wants to keep his job. The Brown situation, that coach wants to keep his job as well. And as a result, you got Russell Wilson, Daniel Jones, and then you're going to have Joe Flacco. I don't think it's a surprise that they're going with somebody who's a little more proven and they can't really roll the dice on somebody younger. What do you think?
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Ross Tucker
Well, and here's what's interesting. I tend to think, by the way, that the Browns will probably give Stefanski and the GM Andrew Barry another year. Otherwise, why would those guys have made that trade that they made? Unless, Stan, they think that making that trade helps them get another year, right? Like maybe. Maybe it's the chicken in the egg thing. The Colts thing to me is like the perfect example, okay, of the dichotomy between fans, media, and to some extent, even some scouts and front office executives versus coaches. I have seen this as long as I've been around the NFL, right? Fans, media, some front office executives, they love upside, they love physical traits, they love potential. They love guys like Anthony Richardson, right? Meanwhile, coaches, you know what they love? They love guys that they can trust, that are able to execute the concepts that they're given and that the plays that are called guys that obviously are consistent. That's what coaches value. You know, I know this, Dan. Multiple times in my career, I was told by an assistant coach, hey, the, the front office hates you, like, or this guy hates you. But the coach is always like, I was never the high upside guy. I was never the traits guy. I was never someone that you get excited. Oh, yes, we have Ross Tucker and his short arms and average athleticism starting. Like, nobody ever felt that way. But the coaches, they knew I wasn't going to be the reason why we lost. I was going to do the right thing every time they could trust me, I was going to play as hard as I possibly can. I was consistent. And ultimately, coaches have to win. It's year three for Shane Steichen. He needs to win this year. If he thought that Anthony Richardson would help them win more games this year, I can assure you he would be starting. He doesn't. Now, remember this too, Dan. People lose sight of this. You know, when the announcements made yesterday, I called that Colts, Titans, Game for CBS last year late in the season. It had been a week or two earlier that several of the veterans had sat down with Anthony Richardson to go over with him what the standard should be and what their expectations are. This is more than halfway through his second year. DeForest Buckner and Quentin Nelson, those guys, this is out there. It's public. They had to sit down, say, like, listen, in walkthroughs, you need to be like this, you know, after practice, you need to do stuff like this, you know, unfortunately, he's a really gifted, talented, but young, immature kid who has gotten hurt a bunch. Doesn't really understand what it means to be professional. I don't know if he knows that now or not. But Shane Steichen not waiting around to find out, right? Like Shane seconds, like, you know what? Daniel Jones, he can win. I saw with the Giants in my system, he'll win. He'll do what I ask of him. He's a pro. I'm attaching my life, my family's livelihood, my kids, where I'm going to live next year. I'm going to put more faith and trust in Daniel Jones that he'll give me a better chance to stay living in Indianapolis, Indiana next year than Richardson.
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Dan Patrick
Talking to Ross Tucker, the Ross Tucker football podcast, and he had Browns Eagles last Saturday. He's got the Eagles at the jets coming up on Friday night. Would you rather have the career of Joe Flacco or Philip Rivers?
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Ross Tucker
Joe Flacco, yeah. Now listen, Philip Rivers, I think, is a better player. I think Philip Rivers has a better chance, maybe a really good chance to be a Hall of Famer. But in my first of all, Phil Rivers never got to play in a Super bowl, right? So forget even winning it.
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Dan Patrick
You.
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Ross Tucker
You either have experience playing in the super bowl or you haven't. I haven't. I've talked to guys that have. It's like a line of demarcation as NFL player, you either play in the super bowl or you didn't. And then Flacco. First of all, Flacco made a ton of money. They probably made around the same money. And Flacco's still going, by the way. But Flacco won a Super bowl. And no matter how good an individual career is, there is nothing like winning a championship. I can speak to this, Dan. I am so glad I got a chance to play college football and very thankful for seven years in the NFL. In 18 years of football, I won one championship. It was my junior year of high school. It was 30 years ago, okay? It was 1995. I can tell you about every one of those games. I can tell you about those guys when I go back to my hometown, okay, And I go to Third and Spruce or I go to any of these bars and I see these guys, right? I am not friends with these guys. I don't text them. I don't even have their numbers. But when I see them, we give each other a hug and we reminisce about what it was like to win the Berks IC championship in 95, what it was like to beat Governor Mifflin. There is nothing an individual accomplishment in my experience, can never even come close to the shared joy and the shared experience of a team accomplishment. I give me the team accomplishment and winning the super bowl and the bond that you have with those guys forever over anything individual.
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Dan Patrick
Joe Flacco or Dan Marino's careers.
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Ross Tucker
Okay, are we talking careers? Are we talking lifestyle? Because I've thought about this, and being Dan Marino in Miami in the 80s had to be really, really fun.
- [53:16]
Dan Patrick
It might still be.
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Ross Tucker
I mean, I mean, dad, I've said this, okay? This is a great topic for the rest of the show. I'll program the next 30 minutes. Paulie's not doing his job anyway, okay? If you could be any athlete in any era at any time for everything that went along with it, okay? I'm just sitting here thinking, Dan Marino in the 80s in Miami, like Miami Vice, like stuff off the field. I. I mean, Dan Marino had a top five life of any athlete. I, I can even fathom for what that must have been like for him. So Joe Flacco, I mean, great Baltimore. I would rather have probably Joe Flacco's career, but I'd rather. I'd rather live Dan Marino's life.
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Dan Patrick
Safe travels. Great to talk to you as always. Thanks for joining us.
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Ross Tucker
All right, see you guys.
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Dan Patrick
That's Ross Tucker.
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