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Dan Patrick
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Lester Holt
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Dan Patrick
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Lester Holt
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Adam Silver
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Tom Yamas
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Dan Patrick
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Ray Allen
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Ray Allen
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
To the Dan Patrick show on FOX Sports Radio. Ray Allen, great golfer and one of the great shooters of all time joining us on the program. You played Oakmont, Ray?
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Steve Covino
Nope, I never have.
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Dan Patrick
Yep. Yep. Toughest course you played.
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Steve Covino
To date. The toughest course I would have to say is, I'll say on Homeland, I would say Medina in Chicago. And then just recently, a couple of months ago, I played Cabot St. Lucia and it was a beast.
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Dan Patrick
How is Jordan's as far as the test of skills? His course, the Grove.
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Steve Covino
The Grove is not difficult because you can, you can pretty much hit it anywhere off the tee. Greens get, you know, really fast. I think you have to really know how to chip around there. You know, you get around the green and it's like, you know it for, for the first couple of rounds, it was like I didn't even want to play the place because I couldn't get up and down. I was like blade and everything. And I realized the bounce on my wedge was, was too high for that course. So you got to have a low bounce because the grass is really tight.
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Dan Patrick
Does Michael make the course to his liking?
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Steve Covino
I would say that he plays it fairly well because distance really isn't a factor there. The way he plays it, he doesn't hit the ball far, but he gets up and down from everywhere. So he gets the ball in front of the green, he's going to get up and down. And he's a great, he's probably the best putter that I've seen, you know, amateur. So you, you lose a lot of rally greens there. And he's really good there.
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Dan Patrick
Okay. A couple of things here. Grown is the first organic fast food restaurant founded by, by you in Miami. Right. All right. All right. So Shannon and Ray created Grown and you launched a nationwide franchise franchising program. Look at you. Look at you.
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Steve Covino
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
Branching out. All right.
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Steve Covino
Yeah. I mean, you know, you get those people who talk about get the trainer and I need to work on losing weight. But you know, our bodies are created by how we eat. And you know, that's kind of been the cornerstone of my career, focusing on how to eat correctly. I had a nutritionist for the first time in 2010 and even then I, I sculpted myself, you know, to even greater point, just understanding what not to eat, you know, eating at the right times, specifically for a professional athlete. And so that's the thing people were dealing with. We're at this crossroads in this country where we're eating so poorly. The foods that that are, we have access to, they're killing us. And so we've been on all organic diet, my wife and I, my family, my kids, and specifically my son Walker, since he was diagnosed with diabetes at 17 months. So putting foods in our body to make sure that we don't take on those chemicals, you know, those, those processes and those GMOs, like super important. And that's one of the reasons that we exist, is to make sure that we provide food for people. You know, in Miami we have a drive through. So providing food for people that allow them to eat foods without the guilt, foods that they could prepare for their families, food that they can eat on the go.
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Dan Patrick
If you're looking for exploring franchise opportunities at grown.org or email@franchise grown.org Talking to Ray Allen, I noticed this on social media where there was a discussion about LeBron doesn't have the bag. Now, I didn't realize what they were saying, so I asked Marvin, he interpreted that since he's younger and he says that means that he doesn't have go to moves. I thought it was money was the bag. And he goes, no, it can mean a lot of things. So LeBron doesn't have the bag. What does that mean to you?
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Steve Covino
Well, I think over the course of a player's career, you kind of consistently see what they can do on a regular basis. They do that. You pay to see them play, you go watch them play and they do that move that they do consistently and they nobody could stop it. You know, there's so many players over the history and just kind of when you look at the NBA today, we've lost a lot of skill from that standpoint because even when I came into the league, we had mid range players, we had great pick and roll players, we had great post up players. And so now it's kind of like you're looking at a league of guys that you know you're shooting. It's a lot of one on one stuff, you're shooting a lot of threes. And ironically, between OKC and Indiana, they're probably two of the few teams in the NBA that are shooting mid ranges. And that's evident in how they got here today to be in these Finals because they're not relying on analytics to only shoot threes. They're making sure they get into the paint. So when they have those scoring droughts, Halliburton drives, like in the game seven against New York, he just. Or game six, I think it was Halliburton just, just picking rolls, got into the paint and he scored. And so. So ultimately, when you talk about a guy having a bag, it's having that pet move where they can get to it and nobody can stop it. And LeBron has always been an unstoppable, undeniable force where if you put a bigger guy on him, he can't keep up with him because he doesn't have the footwork. And you put a smaller guy on, he doesn't have the size. So LeBron's never really had to have a pet move because he can just go downhill and score over everybody.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, but you know, fan doesn't appreciate that, right? They don't, they don't see what you see. They want to see like, oh my God, there's a sky hook or Iverson breaking ankles. You know, LeBron with physicality, you know, nobody's going to go, wow, look at that. And you know, Jordan had the aesthetics. I mean, he had, you know, whether it was the fade away, going to the hoop, all of those things, it just feels like because LeBron doesn't look, his game doesn't look pretty, you know, therefore he doesn't have a bag.
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Steve Covino
Well, I mean, also, it's statistic driven the league is because the guys are scoring more. So being able to get to the free throw line, being able to score and transition and take the first shot available, you know, you really don't have to because I think even with, with Giannis, the year before they won the NBA championship in Milwaukee, you can see that he was trying to play a certain way where he had to have the ball in his hands. He was trying to make a move and he didn't have it. He didn't have that skill set and it hurt Milwaukee's offense. And then the following year when he started kind of moving the ball, got the ball to Drew, Drew was one of their go tos. And then Middleton was a guy who down the stretch would score a lot for him. And so Giannis Stayed in his lane where he got scored in transition. You know, if he got a wide open shot, he took it. But he didn't over assess his abilities. And I think a lot of times that's what it boils down to is just understanding who you are, just sticking and you have to rely on your team. So with LeBron, you know, that's just the pop culture way of saying that there he doesn't have a go to move that people can rely on seeing from him every night, but he's still as much as he's in the game, he's still going to score 25 plus points a night just because he has pure dominance.
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Dan Patrick
Talking to Ray Allen, the Hall of Famer, explain to me the Jason kid situation. Brian Winhor said there's mutual interest. Jason Kidd and the Knicks, him coaching the Knicks. You have Cooper flag coming to Dallas, and why would he want to leave that? And you're going to go to the Knicks. And the only thing I thought of is I'm bringing in Jason Kidd if he can bring in Giannis, if Giannis says, all right, I want to go play for Jason Kidd in New York. Other than that, why would Jason Kidd want to coach the Knicks instead of the Mavericks?
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Steve Covino
So this is pretty interesting conversation because even when Tibbs was fired last week, everybody was like, well, he made it to the conference finals. How, how can you fire a guy like that? A lot of times we're, you know, in, in the outside world, because even when I was on the inside, things were happening in locker rooms that people had no idea as to what was taking place. And so people had opinions. And I think a lot of times you nailed it. There's things that are going on behind the scenes that we're kind of not privy to. So there is, there could be, you know, some type of deal being worked where all these pieces kind of, you know, fall in place and then all of a sudden it just kind of happens. They fall like dominoes.
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Dan Patrick
So do you think Giannis is going to be traded to the Knicks?
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Steve Covino
Well, I mean, I know he's been quipping about leaving Milwaukee, and I think it's going to come down to kind of the best deal that Milwaukee sees necessary leaving for him to leave Milwaukee and understanding the void that that that leaves Milwaukee. You know, they really want to get something for him. So it will depend on, you know, what that looks like. When I got traded from, from Seattle to Boston, I remember sitting in my room and the trade, the draft was happening and then I seen proposed trade and it was like Boston's giving up like six players. I was like, oh, I'm so out of here. And it said proposed and nobody called me. But the way I saw the, what Boston was giving up, I was like, yes, Seattle's taking that easily. So it will depend on, you know, how Milwaukee could set themselves up for, for their future and who they get back in return. But you know, look out Eastern Conference and NBA if, if Giannis ends up in New York because obviously it's a huge market, it's great market for him and with the success that they've had recently with New York. But it is going to require the giving up one of their core players that they have right now.
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Dan Patrick
If OKC wins this, let's say they win it in five or six, will they be recognized as one of the great single season teams of all time?
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Steve Covino
You know, it's hard to say that, but to your point, it's amazing that they haven't gotten the due. You know, they won 68 games this year. My two championship season, we won 66 teams. So definitely from a record standpoint they have to be given that respect. And that due to, in the same token, they're so young. So I don't think people expected him, them to get there to this point. Even you, you take a team like Cleveland being the number one seed and I think they had the best record in the NBA throughout the year. Most people aren't surprised that they're not here right now because they were so young. And the fact that OKC made it, you would have thought it would have been Cleveland okc, but the fact that OKC made it, you know, the game is so different now because the three point shooting, it shoots teams in and out of the game in the same token. And you see the volatility is so great. You know, you watching the game, team is down 20 and all of a sudden fourth quarter, it's a tie ball game. And, and a lot of that does have to do with, you know, being able to have certain team scoring and that mid range game, you know, it has to come back to that, you know, because there's too much consistency in being able to sustain you know, or, or come out of a. The other day OKC came out of a timeout and I don't know what the score was, but Indiana was, was up quite a bit and Dagnall called a timeout and then they came out and I was telling my son, let's see what they run out of a timeout. And I think it Was that started with the ball on the wing at the top of the screen. And then he swung it, you know, pick and roll. Swung the to Shay and then he used pick and roll. He got all the way downhill and he scored a layup. And I said, that right there is amazing execution on a timeout because it slowed them down. They got an easy bucket and they were able to get back and set their defense up.
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Dan Patrick
Look at you teaching moments there with your, with your family.
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Steve Covino
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
You're not just a three point shooter, right? I mean.
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Steve Covino
No. Well, that dad definitely is leading the. Leading the charge these days.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, but you used to go down the lane and dunk. People always go, man, Ray's a great three point shooter. I said, you didn't see him early in his career then because you were attacking.
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Steve Covino
Yeah. And here's the fascinating thing about that. In Milwaukee and in Seattle. Milwaukee, we basically played like a west coast offense, you know, so we got the ball, we shot quick. You know, we kind of. We had like a spread offense. We didn't really have a post guy. We could throw it down there to some guys that could score. And then those two places. Once I moved to Boston, then we, we were more traditional to NBA basketball, you know, with KG and Perkins on the block and, you know, throw the ball into the paint and then kick it back out and then so kind of set my feet a little more than I had been in my career. Didn't mean that I still couldn't dunk and I still, you know, couldn't get to the, to the hole. It did just change how. And the most important aspect of that, when you think about it, when I came to Boston, I had to decide, am I going to try to do this on my terms? Do I want to do it on the team's terms? And ultimately you win a championship because you have to adapt. It's not the strongest or smartest that survive. It's the ones most willing to adapt. And in that situation, it was difficult because I went from shooting 16, 17 shots a game to eight or nine. But that's what it took in order for us to win a championship.
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Dan Patrick
KG yell at you a lot?
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Steve Covino
KT just yelled a lot, period. You know. You know, we, we always, you know, I remember we, we play. Our first game was in Rome. And you know, before the game, I'm in here just dribbling the ball, getting ready. I'm excited. This is the first game together. And he looks over at me and he's kind of moving to the locker room. He looks over me, he goes, how long are you going to be doing that? And I was like, doing what? And I'm just sitting there dribbling between my legs. He's like, you gonna be dribbling the whole time? I said, yeah, we're about to play a basketball game. This is what you do. And, and that was the moment where you got alpha. Alpha males just kind of, you know, kind of banging up against each other. Because our pre, the previous year, he was in the locker room where he was the guy, I was the locker room, I was a guy. And everything kind of, you know, marched to the beat of our drums. And so now we had to learn to share space with other individuals like ourselves. And it was, it was an eye opener, but it did, it taught you, taught me how to say, okay, in order for this to work, we have to share space. And we got to understand, like, this is not just my show anymore.
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Dan Patrick
Good to talk to you, Ray. Thanks for joining us and good luck with the the restaurant. It's called Grown. It's an organic fast food restaurant. And you want information about exploring franchise opportunities, it's grown.org or franchiserown.org thank you, Ray.
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Steve Covino
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Dan Patrick
Search FSR to listen live. Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis.
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Tom Yamas
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Dan Patrick
5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4.
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Tom Yamas
Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio and of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything, life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world.
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Dan Patrick
We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in.
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Tom Yamas
The world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem.
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Dan Patrick
To have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out.
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Tom Yamas
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Dan Patrick
Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say.
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Tom Yamas
I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive.
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Dan Patrick
Show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and.
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Tom Yamas
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
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Tom Yamas
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Dan Patrick
Let's bring in the commissioner, Adam Silver, joining us on the program. Do you have business cards?
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Adam Silver
Me?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Adam Silver
Hold on. Wait.
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Dan Patrick
What's it say?
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Adam Silver
It says National Basketball Association, Adam Silver, Commissioner. A couple phone numbers and an address.
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Dan Patrick
Okay. How often do you hand those out?
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Adam Silver
You know, it's so funny. When I give them, the younger people, they go like this. Like, what? What is it? But our generation still likes business cards, so I still carry them. Or I got a. I had about a thousand printed, I think, when I became commissioner. So I'm going to use them up.
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Dan Patrick
You should just hand them out, autograph them. You know, collector's items.
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Adam Silver
You got to be impressed. I had them in my pocket.
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Dan Patrick
That's impressive.
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Adam Silver
Rehearse this.
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Dan Patrick
I know. That's impressive. You were at the University of Chicago, what, late 80s?
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Adam Silver
Yes.
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Dan Patrick
Okay. Do you remember your first Jordan Bulls game when you were in school?
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Adam Silver
I do, because. So I got to. I went to law school at University of Chicago. I got there in 1985. And at that time, we could just go down to. I mean, you just bought tickets at Gay. You know, literally at the ticket window at game time. I mean, you know, I had gone to Duke, so I knew Michael from North Carolina. I mean, not. It wasn't secret, but they weren't selling out all the games back then. I mean, it was, you know, people forget it. It was several years before he won his first championship. I mean, he was great, but it wasn't the Michael Jordan that he turned into.
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Dan Patrick
When. Do you remember when it was more than just a basketball game?
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Adam Silver
Not while I was. Well, I remember there was an All Star game in Chicago, so it would have been, I don't know, it was like 87 or something. I remember that. What was the year when he won? Yeah. Okay. So that, you know, I think that transformed, I think, him into this global icon in a way. I just think that that iconic shot, I can picture him flying through the air. I remember, you know, I did not have great seats, but I remember I was in the arena when he did that. And I just remember that that was transformational, I think.
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Dan Patrick
How involved were you with NBC bringing in Michael Jordan?
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Adam Silver
Not at all. You mean just now? There's just this announcement they're bringing him back? I mean, they told me they were going to try, and I said, good luck. I didn't. I honestly didn't think he was going to do it. You know, it took us as, you know, decades to convince him to do the documentary, you know, the Last Dance, which came out during the pandemic and ended up still, I think, is one of them, you know, widely viewed on Netflix. But he didn't, you know, he didn't want to do that for a long time. We had the footage, and I know there were other inquiries over the years, and I think for whatever reason, he was ready to do it Now. I think he. He has, of course, incredibly fond memories of NBC. I don't think that's lost on anyone. He has, you know, as you well know, some of the very same people are there. People like John Miller, who he had a relationship from back all those years ago. You know, Mark Lazarus was still, you know, they are just switched over to the other side of the operation. But, you know, so I think, like, he had those relationships and again, I didn't discourage them, but I was surprised he said yes.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Still trying to figure out what his role is going to be now. Do you follow up? Do you want. Are you curious about what role Jordan is going to play with the upcoming camp?
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Adam Silver
Yeah, no, I, you know, well, I, you know, I didn't know in advance, but that, you know, they told me what their idea was for him in that role, and I think that they're still working through that. I think that, you know, I spoke to Michael about it. I mean, he's excited about it. I think for him, it means he's got to stay current with the game. Obviously, he's a small owner still in Charlotte, but he's so passionate about it. I mean, we talk about it all the time. I mean, he wants the game to be played the right way. He's still got a huge business around the game with the Jordan brand. But I think more importantly, he watches a lot of basketball and, you know, he knows it's what defines him still. And so I think fans are going to enjoy hearing his take, you know, on the modern league. I think one of the things that I'm excited about in terms of NBC coming back, and this goes back to the Dick Ebersolt days, you know, is that I remember that sign behind Dick's desk that said storytelling. I mean, I think there's still some of the best at it, you know, and I think telling stories around the game, I mean, even right now, I mean, that sort of this narrative out there about small markets, whatever else. I mean, you know, incredible stories around Shea and, you know, and Tyrese and Pascal Siakam. I mean, my job, too. You know, we first met when I was at NBA Entertainment. But to tell those stories to fans, I think that's what draws them in. I mean, there's the lovers of pure basketball, and I think the basketball is fantastic. But you also have to show how multi dimensional these players are and, you know, explain to them the storylines, the conflict on the floor. And nobody does that better than NBC.
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Dan Patrick
You talked about Michael staying current. There are times when Charles may not know who's even playing in a game that he's watching. Now, it's funny to us, but you're the commissioner and this is your lead broadcast team or a studio show. How does that kind of settle with you when Charles may not even know who he's talking about?
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Adam Silver
Well, I, I, I, that may be a little extreme. I mean, I, I'm down there a fair amount at their studio at Atlanta. I mean, he's watching the games. I mean, they made a decision to take an entertainment route with that studio show. I mean, I think ESPN was always about more hardcore basketball. Maybe NBC was somewhere in the middle in the old days. But it's an entertainment show and he's entertaining and fans seem to love it. You know, sometimes he's a bit of the crazy uncle, I think, but even when he's, I think there's a difference when putting aside, you know, how focused he is on the game. My sense always when Charles is critical, it is a little bit like your uncle at the Thanksgiving table being critical. It's like, there's no doubt it comes from a place of love. You know, I don't feel the same way about some of the other commentators, and I think it's just, it's, you know, Charles found a lane and he does it well. And it'll be interesting to see how that converts as, you know, they're now bringing that studio show to ESPN and ABC next year. I think, you know, we'll see how that works out. I mean, I, you know, I love the fact that those guys are still going to be involved in our telecast, but, you know, I'm not sure whether it will be produced differently for them or there'll be a different expectation from ESPN and ABC fans or watchers that maybe what people are seeing late at night on tnt, he's the commissioner of.
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Dan Patrick
The NBA, Adam Silver. You know, everybody gets caught up in ratings, and I just say, either watch it or not, you know, but the role that social media plays on your priority list, because this is a global game and people may not watch the game, but they're watching those clips. You know, you're getting views there. But as the commissioner, you gotta, you know, pay homage to the networks. But where does social media rank on your priority list?
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Adam Silver
Social media is high in our priority list. I mean, first of all, we've had something like a billion views so far globally on social media since the Finals have started. But also to get back to your ratings point, I think what gets lost sometimes is just like social media is global, so are the telecasts of our games. And I understand people wanting to talk about our domestic ratings. And to the extent that the ratings are down, that's a storyline or they're up there to storyline. And there is a correlation between market size more than I'm happy about. I was listening to Aaron Rodgers yesterday and he was talking about now becoming a Steeler. And he was saying, now I've played for two of the most storied franchises, the packers and Steelers. But nobody stopped him to say, ah, those are small markets. And so maybe I'm jealous in a way from, from the NFL that that's never, you know, Steelers and Packers. The storyline is. It's unimaginable. It would be. Can you believe two small markets are meeting in, in the super bowl this year is two storied franchises. And in the NBA, I think because there was so much outsized success of certain franchises over the first several decades of the league, I mean, the statistic is roughly over the first 65 years of the league, three teams won 60% of the championships. And so it's understandable that Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, still globally have these huge followings because it gets almost passed on generationally. And to make ourselves more like the NFL, I think we're, we're moving in that direction where we have a system now where Oklahoma City and Indianapolis can compete in the same way that larger markets can because of a cap system and tax and all that stuff. So it's going to take us a while to get there. But I understand why ratings are part of the story now. The last part I'll say about social media. I do think something worth thinking a lot more about and getting more sophisticated about is how do you translate social media into a desire to watch live games? I'll give you just one example. I think we may have even talked about it. Last time I was on, Victor Wembanyama was in New York playing on Christmas and then played in Brooklyn a few days later. So he was staying in New York around that time. He's a chess player. He went to Washington Square park, played chess in the rain for 45 minutes. Within five days, 100 million people had viewed him playing chess. And it was just anecdotally. Anyone I would ask, because it was also on a lot of the morning shows, I said, do you see Victor? Oh, yeah, that was the guy from France. He played. Now the question is, seeing that he also plays chess and he's by definition, you could say, a multi dimensional guy. There's far more to him than ball playing. He speaks multiple languages, even the fact that he's, you know, grew up outside of Paris, etc. How do we as the league use that to bring people to the set to watch live games? Because I would say looking back, we've gotten distracted at times and forgotten sort of, or I forgotten that my core responsibility is to get more people to be passionate about NBA basketball and watch our games. That's what sustains our business. I mean, it's of course ticket sales, but ticket sales are as high as they've been in the history of the league. And there's not a lot more room to grow because our buildings are roughly 95% full. We have a global following, so there's enormous opportunity, both through social media, but where the real value comes is from people watching live games. So I think we can do a better job using social media to bring people to the set to say, tonight, 8:30, ABC, you know, game three, tune in. And to be more sophisticated about understanding is it. Would people rather see more about Shea, Gilgis, Alexander's background, growing up in Canada, etc. The things he loves or do they want to see him, you know, working out what aspects of him are going to cause people to be more likely to be interested in watching the game tonight.
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Dan Patrick
Why does the All Star Game have to be competitive?
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Adam Silver
It's an interesting question because again, I was just talking about how jealous I am of aspects of the NFL. The Pro bowl at this point is flag football. And I think that fans seem to accept that gets a good rating. And nobody suggests that that's indicative of a lack of desire or passion by NFL players for whatever reason. In the case in the NBA, when we've tried other things and thought, all right, we'll go more entertainment route or whatever else the reaction is. I can't believe your players aren't giving their all for an All Star Game. Or at least maybe they don't expect them to play like they would in the playoffs, but they're expecting a competitive game and so that's fair, then we have to respond to that. And I haven't been successful, frankly, in the Last few years we tried some new things in San Francisco. I mean, part of it was there was a format issue. There was a huge stoppage of play in the, in the final. You know, we had this round robin where, you know, there was a celebration around Turner, which they deserve. But I think the game lost all its momentum. So something you've talked a lot about historically is this USA World concept. You know, I watch what other sports are doing. The NHL had great success with the four nation face off. So we're, we're looking now for next year. We'll be in L. A, we'll be in the Intuit Dome where the, the Olympics are going to take place in 28 and we're going to be on NBC, back to NBC for the All Star Game. And we're going to be smack in the middle of Winter Olympic coverage. So if ever a time to move to USA World, it's now. What we're toying with now and working with Andre Iguodal at the Players association is what's, what's the right format? Because I don't, I think straight up, USA World probably won't work because although the number of international players is growing and is roughly 30% of our league right now, it wouldn't be fair to pick the All Stars, 70% as one team, 30% is the other. So I think we're again playing off what the NHL did. Maybe there's multiple teams, maybe there's more than one USA team, but we can achieve that concept and I think create a sense of nationalism around it and again feel like we belong sort of on the Sunday where it's otherwise Olympic coverage. So I'm hopeful that we can create something more competitive there.
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Dan Patrick
Do you have your wish list of expansion like the cities right now there's.
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Adam Silver
Cities worth thinking about.
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Dan Patrick
How many cities would you say are on that wish list?
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Adam Silver
Well, let me begin by saying it. It's not obvious to me we should expand. I think it's likely over time we will. And the reason I say it's not obvious is because as a global business, you know, where something like 2 billion people will connect with us on social media, over a billion people over the course of the year will watch some portion of the game. Adding another US City, arguably it's unclear how much growth we'll get as a result of that. And when you're adding expansion franchises, you're diluting their competition. Two more, let's say we expand by two teams. Two more teams that you know are going to be competing for those same players. And you're diluting your economics to the extent that we have locked in television money now for the next decade, you have two more partners. Having said that, I do believe certain markets potentially can be additive to the NBA. And that's what we're going to look at. And I think part of it is geographic. It's a big country, you know, making sure we're represented, you know, all around country. And then over time, maybe there's more we can do in Canada. And Mexico City is a city we've talked about before. You know, I don't want to say specific cities today just because many have reached out to us to say they're interested. And I and our reaction so far has been thank you for your interest. We haven't taken any meetings with any cities. We have a board meeting in Las Vegas around the summer league in July. I know we're going to be talking about it then. I had been saying for the last several years, let us get through collective bargaining, which we did. Let us figure out our new media relationships, which we have. And that would be the time to consider it seriously. So that's what we're going to do this summer.
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Dan Patrick
But I, but I'm retiring in three years. Commissioner is what I'm retiring in three years. Will we have expansion in three years?
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Adam Silver
I'm honestly not sure whether even if we were to announce we're engaged in a process, it's not clear to me at what moment they would start playing. But, but look, this, I, I don't mean to tease people with this. This is the summer we're going to look at it. Seriously.
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Dan Patrick
I thought you'd be a little more emotional about my retirement. I mean, it's kind of blew right past that.
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Adam Silver
You're like Michael Jordan. You've retired before.
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Dan Patrick
I'm not coming.
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Adam Silver
It's not real yet.
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Dan Patrick
I'm not coming. I'm not going to play baseball. Just going to let you know, not going to let you. But hey, thanks for joining us. Have fun tonight. And thanks again.
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Adam Silver
Yeah, thanks, Dan.
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Dan Patrick
That's Adam Silver, NBA commissioner.
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Adam Silver
Who.
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Dan Patrick
Has it better than we do?
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Lester Holt
Nobody.
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Dan Patrick
All right, poll question. Final hour of the program. Seaton. At least final hour on this Friday.
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Tom Yamas
How superstitious are you? I have a hard time saying superstitious. Extremely. Little. Not at all. 74% are a little in Friday the 13th. I wonder why you'd just be a little and not extremely.
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Dan Patrick
Maybe it's little things that you're superstitious about. Yes. Paul, can you be sportsstitious and not superstitious?
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Adam Silver
Like, I wouldn't be bothered if I.
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Zoe Saldana
Broke a mirror or walked under a ladder.
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Lester Holt
Wouldn't bother me at all. But if a team I love is playing well and I'm sitting in a certain seat in my house, I'm staying in that seat.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Adam Silver
And vice versa.
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Dan Patrick
Yes. So that's sports. I guess it's superstition. Yes. Yeah, I would think so. Yeah. What else do you have? Seaton.
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Tom Yamas
We also put up there. This one is very much about Todd fritz. Would you rather be physically fragile or mentally disturbed?
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Dan Patrick
It's. It's one or the other.
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Tom Yamas
I'm surprised that so many people. I'm not sure why I'm surprised about this, but that so many people are choosing physically fragile rather than mentally disturbed.
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Dan Patrick
I don't think anybody wants to be disturbed.
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Tom Yamas
But you could be mentally disturbed. But that means that you're super fit. How about you're crazy and in good shape? Or you can be have all of your mental faculties that are perfectly intact, but you're very fragile physically.
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Dan Patrick
What about mentally physic or mentally or physically soft? How about if we just did that? It could be mentally soft or physically soft. I wonder what people will say about that. Any other poll questions for the final hour of this program?
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Tom Yamas
We can update that if you'd like. Okay, we can.
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Dan Patrick
All right. Would you rather be mentally soft or physically soft?
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Tom Yamas
Okay.
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Steve Covino
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
Todd might be both. 8773-DP-SHoM email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @dpshow Nick and Irvine. Hi, Nick, what's on your mind today?
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Lester Holt
Hey, dan, I got three comments for you. First of all, back in the 80s when you could go to Hollywood park for horse racing and there was 30,000, 40,000 people, I was into the ponies and I was on a bad streak and I was trying everything. I'll never forget my dad when I told him what was going on and you know, I was trying to put together numbers and trying to, you know, do all these different things. And he said, and he looked me right in the eye, the most earnest.
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Adam Silver
Thing he ever said.
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Dan Patrick
And he said, son, don't forget these.
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Lester Holt
Two pieces of advice. Number one, it is bad luck to be superstitious. And number two, never bet on a horse that eats. And ever since then, I have never lost again at the track. I want to tell you about my Traeger Grilled. It is true that you can, you can adjust the Traeger Grill with your phone. It's an incredible feature. But Todd, I think you would like this. You can the little known fact you can also call the Traeger Grill and you can talk to each individual patty or chicken wing or whatever.
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Dan Patrick
And that's all right. Thank you. Thank you, Nick. You have Thunder Pacers game four OKC favored by six. The Oilers came back, they were down three nothing. And then they went five four in overtime. And this is how the game winner.
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Lester Holt
Sounded, breaking free as Dry subtle to the next star. Leon Dry subtle has tied this series with his fourth OT winner of the playoffs. Final score, Edmonton 5 Florida 4 in overtime.
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Dan Patrick
The man on the call, Jack Michaels Edmonton Oilers Radio Play by play. Hey boys. How's the throat today? Jack?
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Lester Holt
Dan? I'm okay. You know what?
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Dan Patrick
I.
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Lester Holt
And I don't know whether that triggered you because 19 years ago you and Keith were doing homer call the week and you had me on twice in two weeks. Alaska and Vegas and Alaska and Fresno. And I remember you being fascinated with it being the East Coast Hockey League, you know, championship series involving Alaska and Fresno.
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Dan Patrick
Great to have you back. You had a great seat for this with your team down three to nothing. What were you thinking?
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Lester Holt
Well, to be honest with you, that's where the Oilers seem to thrive. I don't know what it is, but this club is not content with prosperity. It loves to dig itself a hole, whether it's early in the season they started 03 this year, 29 and 1 last year, or whether it's in early in games. And you just had a feeling that if Edmonton got one, the momentum could turn in a hurry. We've got two great teams, Dan. I would say through four finals this Stanley cup final is shaping up as the best in the history of the sport. And I honestly don't, you know, that's not an exaggeration. These two teams are clearly the best in the National Hockey League. They found an extra gear and you know, Florida's a worthy champion. This is now a best of three with two on Edmonton's home ice. But I don't think anyone can be called a favorite. Not right now. We've had the two latest game time goals in the history of the final a week apart.
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Dan Patrick
Also when we talked about this last week, how important is the cup to Canada? We know it's important to Edmonton. Is Canada rooting for Edmonton?
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Lester Holt
Well, I think for years, I think for years Edmonton has been kind of everyone's second favorite team. As you know, passionate fan bases exist in, you know, Toronto and you know, so I don't know whether the Leafs are more of a polarizing figure than some of the other clubs. Edmonton is more, you know, I mean Krebsky, right.
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Dan Patrick
It's.
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Lester Holt
No one really hates the Oilers except maybe those who reside in Calgary. Right. So it's a bit of a national team from that perspective in the sense that when you live in Canada there's no middle ground with the Toronto Bay League. Edmonton is a little bit different in the sense. Well, you know, I can live with Edmonton winning the cup. I can't live with Leaf winning the cup.
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Dan Patrick
When you go to overtime, you know that the game is on somebody's stick there as the play by play voice, how do you approach that? Knowing that it can end very quickly.
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Lester Holt
Absolutely no divergence, no tangents, no you know, thoughts that come to mind. Just button it up and call the game. And you have to do that really with Connor McDavid any. Anyway I as you can probably tell, I'm thrown to gab. I need to button it up all the game because it can end at any moment. And as you saw, I mean Leon Dreisa, that's a one handed shot that gets a carom off a kneecap and goes five hole on Bobrovsky. Not your typical, you know, OG winner. You just have to be ready and you can't again go off on some random spot from 1971.
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Dan Patrick
You are a professional at doing this. We just heard your call with the game winning goal in overtime. Seaton o' Connor who works on my show, he. We love Leon Draisaitl. We, we only bring his name up in June but you know he's always scoring big goals. I want you to grade Seaton's call of Leon Draisaitl's game winner last night.
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Tom Yamas
He's done it again.
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Steve Covino
How?
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Lester Holt
You know, I guess what I'd say is I need a little crowd noise. It's not completely fair to him.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, okay.
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Lester Holt
He's got a little bit of a fombo situation. The good thing is his voice did not crack. I will say that, you know, he didn't sound like a guy going through adolescence. So that's a start.
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Dan Patrick
And you know, you play by play, guys in hockey, it's like you're trying to cram words in and then all of a sudden it just is all kind of jumbled and then it's what, dry side in overtime.
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Lester Holt
That's why I went to the overtime call the way I did. I figured that was the one word that everyone would understand.
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Dan Patrick
Hey, great to talk to you again and good luck with this next game on Saturday. Thank you, Jack.
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Lester Holt
Dan, I really appreciate you having me on. And Keith says hello.
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Dan Patrick
Jack Michaels, Edmonton Owners radio play by playboy also does TV as well. 15 years doing radio. Yeah, we had him on for homer call of the week 19 years ago and Keith Olbermann has stayed in touch with him.
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Tom Yamas
That was the old hour, too. Yeah, right in the middle of the.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, the show. Yeah, radio show. The homer call of the week. That was fun.
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Tom Yamas
Homer call of the week was fun.
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Dan Patrick
Brought to you by James in New Mexico. Hi, James. What's on your mind today?
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Lester Holt
Hey, Dan, thanks for taking the call. So I'm part of your younger demographic.
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Dan Patrick
And NBA casualist, I guess I would say.
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Lester Holt
And I was curious so, you know.
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Dan Patrick
Not knowing too much about the past eras of players who would be the comps to today's game.
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Steve Covino
It could be like play style, but.
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Dan Patrick
It'S hard because there's two different games. But like, who they were in the media, like, who was.
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Lester Holt
Who was Barkley then today?
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Dan Patrick
And I guess the obvious one would be Jordan LeBron. But like, try to educate myself more.
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Lester Holt
On who they were to the game and like in the media back then to today's game. Like some comps there.
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Dan Patrick
I don't think there are comps for those three. I mean, Charles was unique. I mean, he's more unique now. But as a player, you're just. You couldn't believe that somebody who's 65 is going against Shaq and wasn't afraid of Shaq. Jordan, you're watching and you're going. I've never seen anybody like that. And then even LeBron, somebody that big, who's able to do all of these things because we thought we saw that with Magic. Now you're seeing LeBron do that, but also be a great scorer. And now 40,000 points later, I think a lot of times we try to do those comparisons. You know, that guy reminds me of. There's so many unique, great athletes that there aren't comps. Every white player who can shoot, you know, it kind of reminds me of Larry Bird. No, no, he doesn't. Anybody who's 6, 9 at point guard, you know, he reminds me of Magic. Just because he's six nine. Sga. You're hearing the. You know, he's kind of like Michael Jordan. No, he's not. No, he's a great scorer, but he's not Michael Jordan. It's just different style points. Jordan gave you that. Barkley gave you that. LeBron. You know, there's nobody like Steph Curry. No one. And you can say, oh, you know, it kind of reminds me of Steph Curry. Caitlin Clark might remind you of Steph Curry. That's the closest comp that I would have. But, you know, Klay Thompson, I've never seen somebody so economical at. At his peak of not needing a dribble. And that famous game where he had like nine dribbles the entire game. Yeah, Marvin, respect his handle. He had 11 dribbles. Oh, 11 dribbles. Okay. Yeah. He's not beating you off the dribble. You know, if I'm guarding him, I know he's not going to beat me off the dribble, but he is. If I. You let him shoot. He's making it. And that's another one of those guys when you're watching guys who are in college, and then you go, wow, that guy's gonna be a pro. He's gonna be great. And then he doesn't become that. And then you see somebody else and you go, oh, man, he went to Washington State. I never walked. I remember watching Washington State. And the only reason why I remember Klay Thompson is because of his father, Michael who. I know that was it. I remember watching Gary Payton at Oregon, and I said, that guy's going to be a great pro. But then Brent Barry is on that team. And if you would have said, that dude there is going to win the slam dunk contest, I'd be like, huh? You see these guys and then you don't envision them. Steve Nash at Santa Clara, I watched, and I was like this little guy with a bad haircut. And he is entertaining. Never would have thought anything other than that. That's why when you have these scouts, when they go, hey, we're taking this guy, and you go, man, who saw that? Or when you have scouts and they go, we're taking this guy and you go, what did you see in that guy? What did you see in Michael Oluwa Candy or Anthony Bennett or some of these other players? And you're like, huh? Yes. Marvin.
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Adam Silver
Yeah.
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Steve Covino
Klay Thompson, his first team. I did not see that coming. Donovan Mitchell was another guy where it was like the undersized guard out of Louisville.
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Dan Patrick
I know.
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Steve Covino
Wow.
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Ray Allen
They picked him pretty high.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Tom Yamas
I did not.
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Steve Covino
Not saying they weren't very good college.
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Tom Yamas
Players, but I didn't expect this.
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Dan Patrick
I don't even remember Donovan Mitchell at Louisville because it felt like all of their guards were like 6:1. But they were an unbelievable team.
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