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David Pakman
Governors are increasingly ignoring Donald Trump. I love it. This is a form of resistance that makes a lot of sense and has the potential to have a huge impact. I want to talk about it with you. Trump's back in the White House, but there are governors across the country that are starting to act like he's really not the the latest example comes from Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro. Josh Shapiro makes it very clear he is not going to take orders from Washington when it comes to issues of health care, like, for example, Donald Trump's Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Now, you might be asking yourself, what about the federal supremacy clause? Isn't it the law that the federal government decides and supersedes state law? And the answer is sometimes, but only on some issues. So we're going to delve into that because that is really at the core of this. But first, let's listen to what Governor Josh Shapiro had to say about this making a lot of sense, folks. That could happen.
Governor Josh Shapiro
Yeah, absolutely. Well, RFK Jr. Doesn't run health care here in Pennsylvania. Dr. Bogan does, as the health secretary.
Eric Trump
And.
Governor Josh Shapiro
I would like nothing more than to have a good working relationship with the federal government where they relied on facts and science. But in the absence of that, we're able to set our own rules and regulations and laws here in the Commonwealth. The 10th Amendment allows us of the US Constitution allows us to do that. So I'm exercising my authority as governor. These secretaries are utilizing the authority they have that comes from the people of Pennsylvania. And so we are not going to let those who do not believe in science, those who instead push conspiracy theories, dictate health care here in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
David Pakman
Now, there are a lot of other governors that are going in the same direction, and they are saying we're just not going to listen to the federal government. California Governor Gavin Newsom has said California is going to keep their emissions standards, they're going to keep their climate rules. It doesn't matter if Trump rips up the federal protections, you California doesn't care. They're going to keep doing their thing. New York Governor Kathy Hochul has said no matter what the federal government does, we're going to keep doing our gun safety laws, we're going to protect access to abortion. It doesn't matter what Donald Trump says or does. You go to. Illinois Governor J.B. pritzker is preparing to shield immigrants from Donald Trump's deportation push and has already done so to some degree. So this is now becoming a pattern which is blue state governors saying, we don't care, Donny boy. On health care, on climate, on civil rights, we're going to go our own way. Trump may be president. He doesn't control the states. And the more fringe policy Trump tries to push, the more we're going to say, get the hell out of here. Now, then we get to the legal question. We care about the rule of law here on the left. What about federal supremacy? Doesn't federal law reign supreme? And the answer is only sometimes. What does the law say? Well, we have the Supremacy clause, right? Article six, Clause two, which is that the federal law is the supreme law of the land. If there is a conflict, federal law prevails. But the reality is that that is only in certain areas. Some of these things don't really relate to areas of law, but where the federal government has that undisputed authority. So I'll give you examples. Civil rights, when we have the Civil Rights act, states cannot go, you know what? We are going to make it legal to say, no black people allowed in my shoe store. You can't do it. The law is very, very clear on that. It's unconstitutional. There's Supreme Court precedent, certain environmental regulations in terms of doing less regulation than what the federal government says. So if the EPA issues an air quality standard that says we are going to limit emissions of a certain substance to seven parts per million, states can't go, we're only going to do six parts per million or we're only going to do five parts per million. However, states can have stricter climate and emissions guidelines if the federal law is no more than seven parts per million. And I just did it backwards, and I'm sorry, states can't say we're going to allow more than seven parts per million, but they can say we are going to be even stricter than federal law. I completely screwed up that up in my head. But I hope you understand the point I'm making on immigration. Federal, federal immigration law overrides state laws. So if the federal government says, in order to come into the country legally, here's what you have to do. You can't have a state that says, well, we're going to have different laws for what's required to come into the United States. Now, this is separate from whether cities or states must work with federal immigration authorities. That's a different issue relates to sanctuary cities and states, but that's a different question that we're talking about here. But there are other areas where state law does supersede federal authority, police powers. For example, states regulate property law States regulate traffic law, local businesses. Unless there is a specific federal law that steps in, states have superseding authority in a lot of those areas. And as I already mentioned, states can always go beyond federal requirements. If the Fed say no more than 10 parts per million of this polluting gas, states could say we're going to be stricter. If the federal government says the minimum wage must be 725 an hour, states are allowed to say, actually in our state it's going to be $9 an hour. It's going to be 10, 15, $20 an hour. They can't go below, but they can go, go above. And so the key distinctions here are that if there is a direct conflict on something which federal law controls, federal law wins in a sense. But big picture, federal law sets floors and not ceilings. And if the Constitution doesn't give federal government power over an area, it really does remain up to the states. We're seeing this in a lot of places. You know, Josh Shapiro in the video we watched was talking about when it comes to health stuff in Pennsylvania. We've heard from other governors like Maura Healey in Massachusetts, for example, they don't care what the federal government is doing as far as vaccination. Vaccines will remain available and the vaccine schedule will remain in place in Massachusetts with regard to public schools. I love this. We have to look for opportunities to oppose and to resist wherever they present themselves. And, and there are a bunch of different governors that are making it clear they are going to resist. Eric Trump suffered a they stroke on live television. What do I mean by a they stroke? You got to see this. How many times does Eric Trump refer to they here in this interview? And importantly, keep track. I'm going to do it here on a piece of paper I have keep track, keep track of how many different entities they is used to refer to. He does this all the time. Take a listen.
Eric Trump
You made it and so did America.
David Pakman
How do you feel?
Eric Trump
Listen, the book just went to number one on Amazon in virtually every category. So I feel, I feel awfully good, Greg, to say the least. But I mean, they tried to kill us. I mean, I was outside the courthouse in that little clip that you just played there defending my father because they gag ordered him about 200 times every crooked judge, but they impeached him once, they impeached him again. They made up the dirty dossier. They spied on his campaign. They made up Russia collusion. They had FBI calling me to say that we had servers in our basement that were communicating with a kremlin which was nonsense. They took him off of Twitter. They took.
David Pakman
Okay, okay, I have to stop because this. I'm making notes here. Okay. He is using the ubiquitous they even to describe stuff that Republicans did. Okay, Think about all of the different things he talks about here. They tried to kill him. Well, one of the. They was the son of Republicans who tried to kill him in Butler. Okay? They. Oh, like a Republican. Got it. Okay, cool. They tried to gag him. Different judges, in accordance with the law, passed gag orders in their courtroom. They, they, they, they. It sounds like one entity. These are completely disconnected entities. They tried to impeach him. Well, the members of the House of Representatives did vote to impeach Donald Trump. The members of the Senate voted to acquit. They. As if it's all one party. They did the dossier. Now we're talking about intelligence agencies. They accused him of Russia collusion. Now we're talking about different investigative agencies under different power. They, they, they. He's referred to a dozen different entities here, none of which are coordinated in any way that they've been able to demonstrate. And he keeps going. He's in a. He's having a stroke of.
Eric Trump
They off of Instagram. They took him off of.
David Pakman
Oh, they took him off of Instagram and Twitter. Yeah. So now we're talking about moderation on platforms. Instagram and Twitter, of course, have nothing to do with each other.
Eric Trump
Facebook, they raided our home. They raided Mar? A Lago. They went through Melania's closet. They went through Barron's room. They took him off, you know, the ballot in Colorado. Then they took him off the ballot in Maine. I became the most subpoenaed person.
David Pakman
They, they, they. He is using one term here. They. Because he wants you to believe that they who served a search warrant at Mar? A Lago and they who took him off the ballot in Colorado are the same. It's a conspiracy. Everybody's working together against his dad. The biggest victims in the world, if.
Eric Trump
You listen to him in American history. I got 112 subpoenas. I was in a deposition every single day. They tried to bankrupt our company. They tried to de. Platform us. They tried to debunk us. Every bank, Capital One and all the rest of them were shutting down our bank accounts all day long. They were hitting us with half a billion dollar cash judgments for doing absolutely nothing wrong. You know, Greg, it was a siege. And I came up with this name about two years ago, you know, long before I ever started writing the book. And then they tried to kill my father. And Butler. And then they tried to kill him again at the golf course. And you saw what they just did to Charlie Kirk and you saw what they tried to do to Kavanaugh and you saw what they did to Steve Scalise. They have put our family, they have put our movement, they have put all of us, including all of the people watching right now. They have put them under siege. And honestly, I had to tell the inside story.
David Pakman
Yeah, he is showing up here to tell us the inside story in his book Under Siege. This is a family that wants you to believe there are no stronger people. There are no smarter people, there are more, no more robust people. And yet despite being ultra wealthy and hyper privileged, they are the victims. They want you to believe that they are the victims. Not the migrants being treated like crap, not the people being deported, not the people having health care taken away, not the people that now can't afford groceries because they've gotten even more expensive since Donald Trump became president. This is the face of victimhood, according to Eric Trump. Didn't they attack the left for constantly going on about grievances? And yet here they are saying that they are actually the ultimate victims. These are truly pathetic people. And I know that Eric Trump was never the smart one. Like, I understand that, you know, who the hell is Eric Trump? But he wrote a book about this. Now, hilariously, I meant to pull this up. Let me see if I can find it. Under Siege, Eric Trump, My Family's Fight to Save Our Nation. The book comes out in a few days. It is. When you look at the book, from what's been released so far, it is taking anecdotes and minor incidents and claiming that these are just examples of how the Trump family are the targets of everybody. At some point, I would love it if someone said, hey, if you guys are really the alpha males you claim to be, why is it that everything is just such a threat to you and such an attack and something you need to go and write a book about? I don't know that anybody's really going to be asking those questions. So it's a they stroke. They, they did it. They tried to kill him. They tried to indict me, they tried to subpoena. We need something new. And I know that people keep talking about further, further Trumps. Excuse me, Eric or Don Jr. Or Ivanka potentially becoming president. What a horror if that were to happen. 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This gives them a unique level of credibility. Try Incogni risk free and get 60% off. When you go to incogni.com/pacman and use the code Pacman. The link is in the description all right, I have canceled my forthcoming appearance on Jubilees Surrounded. Some of you knew I was going to do it and I feel like I owe you the truth about why. Now. The concept was going to be one progressive millennial me versus 20 right wing gen zers and I have decided not to do it now. After Charlie Kirk was killed, I really thought hard about whether this is something that I still want to do. Now. There were sort of two sets of concerns initially. There was certainly a thought about security, right? I mean Surrounded is essentially what Charlie Kirk used to do and except it was a controlled environment. It was, you know, indoors and it's me versus 20 people, not a huge crowd and the people are pre selected by the casting directors and that sort of thing. So there was initially like a might this gives somebody an idea. Would it be safe? Am I tempting fate by doing the same thing Charlie Kirk used to do? The truth is that the security stuff I was satisfied was pretty well dealt with. Jubilee was very nice and everyone I've dealt with at Jubilee has been nice this entire time. They were going to essentially quadruple the security presence and they were talking about some additional protocols. And at the end of the day I believe that the security issue is not really the concern in the immediate location of the event. But then I kind of started thinking bigger picture and I heard from a lot of you and I heard from a lot of people whose opinions I respect. I started having a sort of like, you know, reckoning about the type of content that I want to put out, the situations I want to put myself in. And I started devoting some thought to, like, is this entire kind of debate format a good idea? It is kind of a rage, bait, prioritized extremism sort of thing. I'm not sure that it's the best thing in the world. And I had said it before, right? I actually did a whole video about this. It was a segment called is the meme ification of debate killing us? And from what I heard from a lot of you, some thought the format of Surrounded is fine. Some thought it was problematic. There were different opinions. Bottom line, I've made a decision. I came to a conclusion. I don't think the conversations that Charlie Kirk was having, and I don't think the conversations that I would have if I did this event would really foster understanding, advance a productive cause, or bring people together in any way. In fact, I mean, when you look at some of the techniques that Charlie Kirk used to, in a sense, it would actually do the opposite. Like, Charlie Kirk, this is an aside, but Charlie Kirk would do this thing where whatever topic comes up, he would like, funnel it. Funnel the conversation into a bucket that he controls. So, like, if anyone says anything related to abortion, he immediately goes, hold on a second. When does life begin? And then now he is just leading you down a predetermined conversation. Or if someone brought up anything related to Israel or Gaza, he would say, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Does Israel have a right to exist? And then just from there, he's guiding. It's a technique. It doesn't really get get us anywhere. But moving on and back to Jubilee and Surrounded, I spoke to people who have appeared unsurrounded. And, you know, you film for hours and hours, three, four hours, it gets cut down. What ends up being published just highlights extremism. It highlights people who are, in a sense, quite unhinged. A lot of the good conversations end up excluded. And the other thing, quite frankly, that made me not feel good about it is that in reviewing some recent episodes, some of the participants are pretty obviously mentally ill. Like, you know, not only is the debate stuff, bro, maybe not the best format for what I'm trying to build. Is it even ethical when some of the people selected are very clearly not of sound mind? Now, I'm not even going to mention which episodes this is particularly clear in, but it is many. There are people selected who forget about being extremist, which is like, fine, you know, you talk to extremists depending on the format. There's some people that really, it's almost like predatory to Include them in some of this stuff. So I've made the decision not to participate and I am foregoing significant publicity by doing this. You know, I've spoken to people who said, yeah, it was wacky, but by appearing on there, it really blew up my platform. It blew up my YouTube channel. And, and you know, we've had some negative publicity lately, as many of you know. It's not like I couldn't use the boost, but overall, at the end of the day, it just doesn't feel right. And if I think ahead to the next five years, the direction I want to go, the second book I'm working on, I just don't know that I am getting us in the direction of the world I envision by doing this. And some of you might go, david, it's so stupid. Take the publicity. Get the 50,000, you know, YouTube subscribers that you would get from doing it or whatever other people have gotten. But it just doesn't seem like I am kind of putting my money where my mouth is if I. I do that. I want to hear from you. Tell me your thoughts. You know, I believe the way for shows like ours to really grow and to grow the ecosystem is not necessarily to do the debate bro stuff in this format. It's people who just like what we're doing. Supporting directly, liking videos, subscribing and building an ecosystem that actually is where we would like to see the political discourse go. And at the end of the day, when I look at the final product of Surrounded, it is not discourse that I believe takes us in the direction that we should be going in. So I want to hear from you. Leave a comment. Send me an email info@david pakman.com and did I screw this one up or is it a decision that is in line with what we want to see from political discussion and discourse in the future? Let me know your thoughts. Have you ever wanted to feel more connected to your partner but found that daily life gets in the way? There is an app designed specifically to help couples deepen their bond, called Paired. Our sponsor, Paired, gives you daily personalized questions, quizzes, fun games really just crafted to inspire meaningful and enjoyable conversations with your partner. And you won't see your partner's answers until you've shared your own. So it's like a safe, genuine space for honest dialogue and discovery. 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I'm realizing we're going to get fewer, fewer offers for elected officials to appear on this show. And I'm a big boy. I can handle that. Maybe I won't get invited to stuff, I don't know. But what's happening is so existentially serious for Democrats and for the left more broadly that I don't think I can stay silent. Now, here's the problem. 95%, 98% of Democrats are either unable or unwilling to communicate in an emotionally salient, meaningful way with voters on shows. Now, I am not saying this from the outside. I am seeing this in my conversations with these elected officials. I have them on the show all the time. I know that when you watch msnbc, sometimes Democrats are asked questions and they go into like a talking point coma and you're like, did they just answer the question? I don't even know what they're talking about. But it's not just happening on MSNBC and cnn. It's happening when I try to talk to them as well. Now, everybody I'm going to mention, and I have to mention some people, they're all nice people. I think they want the best for their constituents. This is not personal. But when I see how the right is communicating and how these Democrats are communicating, I see us barreling towards disaster and I want to fix it. Okay, let out. This is, there's, there's risk to doing this, but I think it has to be done. When I interviewed Colorado Governor Jared Polis, things were fine until I brought up to him that nearly a quarter of Colorado apartments are owned by private equity. And like, is that really good? And he kind of got defensive and he defended private equity's ownership of apartments. And when I pressed a little bit further, the tone shifted and you could tell he wasn't happy, happy with me by the end of the interview. And just that light pushback completely changed the dynamic of the interview. That's not good. I then interviewed Colin Allred, recently running for Senate in Texas. I think he's a fine candidate on paper. I like the guy. I've liked him for a long time. Supported his previous runs when he was running in the Senate. Previously, when I asked Colin, why would Republicans in Texas vote for a Democrat in 2025? What is it that you're offering? He gave me this long answer going back to 2017. Now, listen, I understand history matters, but I pointed out you're not really answering the question, and we hit an impasse. And if you look at the comments on that interview, this isn't even my opinion. Look at the comments on YouTube for that interview. Your reaction was exactly what I was thinking, which is, he's not answering the question. He is really talking around the issue. And he never really gets to the. To the point of saying, why are Texas Republicans going to vote for you or any Democrat this time around, given what's going on? We didn't get an answer. It was a very straightforward question. We didn't get an answer. More recently, I interviewed Rahm Emanuel, who is considering a 2028 run, and I asked him what I thought were really straightforward questions about Democratic messaging, connection with voters. What is it that the left needs to offer in terms of, like, what are we doing economically? Right? With Kamala, it was so muddled. She's got this tax deduction for new business expenses, getting give me the clear economic thing. And he responded by speaking six minutes uninterrupted about education. Now, education is a huge issue, of course, but when I explained that wasn't my question, my question was about economics. And he sort of interrupted and said, david, you know, maybe you don't care about education, but I do, and I don't think it was good. And again, if you look at the comments, you guys hated it. Here's this is just like one example. Dan wrote to me and said, david, what the fuck is Rahm Emanuel's deal? He got defensive and hostile in your interview and acted as though you'd insulted him or slandered his honor. All you did was ask a pointed question about strategy. Then you politely interrupted his lunatic word salad after what felt like 20 minutes to gently push for specifics. All he wanted to do then was change the subject and pontificate about totally unrelated topics. When you agreed with him on those unrelated things while trying to refocus him on the original question, he Got visibly angry. Veins were popping out of the efforts head. Dude needs a shot of Haldol and some smelling salts to calm his ass down. I've never seen a guy so full of himself. We don't need another thin skinned hot headed psycho in the White House. Two terms of Trump have been more than enough by 2028. Great show. Take care. I wouldn't characterize that interview with all the F bombs, but that sentiment was the overwhelming reaction to my interview of Rahm Emanuel. Now I am doing everything I can to tell these officials when I don't think that they are communicating well. And I've done it behind closed doors and I've done it on interviews. And if there is not a clear platform, clear policy ideas, an emotional connection to voters, Democrats are going to keep running into the same wall. Now let me address Zoran Mamdani with someone like Zoran Mamdani, who, let's be clear, he's a socialist and I'm not. Right? Like I have fundamental differences with Zoran Mamdani. He is emerging as one of the few Democrats who actually excites people and just answers the questions that he's asked. You might agree with his policies or you might not. You might like what he's suggesting or not. You might be a capitalist and he's a socialist, but when he asks a question, he answers the question. And he's speaking in a way that connects. Let me give you an example. I don't think his free bus plan is remotely realistic. To fund it, he would need state taxes to go up. The governor's not going to raise state taxes or you've got to try to raise city tax taxes. I don't even know if that, that's possible by statute, but that would fail. And also making the bus free in other places we've seen just put downward pressure on the quality. The buses come less frequently. I think what a lot of people in New York City want is the buses to run more frequently. And that might actually take more money rather than less. But it doesn't matter, right? This is like we're in the details. He has excited voters. He answers questions. Even if when he says how he's going to pay for the bus plan, I don't believe it. He's got an answer and he doesn't talk about some random thing from 10 years ago. And almost no one is doing that. So people are excited to hear that. And that should really tell us something. And this is what terrifies me by even doing this segment rather than it's Serving as a wake up call to anybody. And at the end of the day, like who am I, right? They've got high priced consultants, they've got all this stuff. But what do I have? I have you. I have you giving me instant feedback to what the communication is from these elected officials. And you're all telling me Mamdani is answering questions and he's exciting voters. The people that you're interviewing, with some exceptions, right? I mean, listen, there are people on this show who answer questions. When we had, you know what, I'm not even going to name people, but you all know that there are people I've had on this show. I'll name a few. When I had Gavin Newsom on, he answered questions and he spoke in a way that connected with people. When I had Governor Josh Shapiro on, he answered my questions and spoke in a way that connected with people. Jimmy Gomez, the congressman, you all loved him and he actually was answering my questions substantively and connecting with people, not redirecting for seven minutes about something else. So there are some Democrats at the national level doing the right things, but they are the exception. And so there's two things that could happen. And you'll know because they might stop appearing on this show, right? If you see no more Democratic electeds on this show, you'll know why. It's because this served as a f that guy rather than damn, maybe he has a point. On the other hand, if you see them continuing to show up and maybe they're communicating more effectively and making you think, oh, there's actually I can understand why I would vote for this person over a Republican nutjob in 26 or 28, then maybe we'll be going in the right direction. But if nothing changes, we're staring down disaster in 2026 and 2028. I'm going to do everything I can to prevent that. But I'm just one person. We all need to get involved. I want to hear from you. Leave a comment if this resonates with you. Please like the video and share it. Like the video and share it. So important. Let's talk about who pays for Trump's insanity. Trump loves to brag about how he's tough on trade. The truth is you're the one paying for his so called toughness. Every time you go to the store, every time you pay your bills, you are footing the bill for Donald Trump's economic insanity. Start with tariffs he promised China would would pay. That was a lie. Tariffs are a tax on imports. The cost gets passed to you. You pay for Trump's tariffs. As of this year, Trump has slapped massive tariffs on everyday items. You know, the percent at this point, it's hard to even keep track. 30% on furniture, 25% on heavy trucks, kitchen cabinets, foreign made movies. He's talking about 100% tax tariff on that just means higher prices on everything. Higher prices on homes, repairs, things like just going to the movies. We've got the farmer bailouts that are pending. Trump loves to say tariffs bring in money. What's he doing with the money? He's needing to give it to the farmers because they're getting hurt by the tariffs. So in essence, you pay twice. You pay with higher prices in the store, but. But then your tax dollars from the tariffs are funneled into bailouts designed to shore up Trump's political base. You are paying. The trade war with Canada and Mexico is another punch. Trump slapped tariffs on almost everything coming in from our closest neighbors. Food, energy, raw materials. So what happened? They hit back. Prices go up both ways. Groceries cost more, utilities cost more. Everything made with imported parts costs more. Does it make your life better? No. His disasters and you pay. The other aspect of this that I think is worth mentioning is that Trump is using the tariffs like a shadow tax. This year we are expected to collect about $170 billion from these tariffs. But it's not coming from China, it's not coming from Mexico. It's coming from you because you now pay higher prices. Inflation, you're paying for the tariffs and that raises the tax burden, even though Trump said he would lower the tax burden on the middle class. And you have ripple effects. Trickle down in the sense of cut taxes for the rich and everyone benefits doesn't exist, doesn't work. The trickle down to housing and construction costs going up because building materials are getting more expensive. Furniture therefore gets more expensive. Fixtures get more expensive. That is trickling down. That then trickles down to higher rent prices. It makes homes less affordable and it leaves local governments who often lack the money to do it, to try to scramble and cover up the gaps. They then say, hey, you know what? We've got to raise property taxes because of the tariffs. How could that be? Well, as I told you, tariffs, building materials, home costs. All of a sudden you have to find yourself raising property taxes to cover the expenses of the municipality. Companies decide, we're going to wait on hiring. We will delay giving people raises. We'll pass the higher costs on to workers and families. The economy becomes more fragile and when things break, it's average people that get hurt first, the people that have got a million in the bank, they're fine. The people that can't meet an unexpected $400 expense without borrowing, they're not fine. So don't be fooled. When Trump says tariffs make America strong, they make life more expensive. Don't believe him when he says the bailouts are free. You're paying for the bailouts. Don't fall for the tough guy routine. Trump's economic policies are hurting you. He said other countries would pay. You're paying, and you're going to keep paying every single day of the week, month, year, whatever, until this insanity finally stops. What will it take to get it to stop? I don't know. Donald Trump's presidency is effectively over, according to a pollster. New poll has landed. It's devastating for Trump. Lake Research Partners, working with free speech for people, looked at voters in swing congressional districts. These are the critical districts likely to determine who takes the house in 2026. And there is one number that should terrify Donald Trump. It's 49. No, it's not the average IQ of his cabinet. 49% of swing district voters support impeaching Donald Trump, and 45% say they support it strongly. This is not a fringe survey. This is the exact voters that will decide who controls Congress. And they seem done with Trump. Think about how extraordinary that is. A majority, 56%, say they disapprove of the job Trump is doing as president. This isn't overall. This is in the critical swing districts that will decide who controls the House. Now, polders are looking at this and they're saying, this is remarkable, might even be unprecedented, that you've got about half of swing district voters saying the president should be impeached, and we're only eight months in. Nixon didn't hit these numbers until the end of his second term. Clinton never had numbers like this. In battlegrounds, Trump is bleeding support in the exact places that he needs it now. When you look at history, one of the things we've talked about before is that presidential approval ratings rarely go up. Why? Governing is hard, scandals pile up, and the way presidential approval often works is the term starts and you go, I approve. He's new. I approve. He does the thing that you don't like. Now you switch to, I no longer approve. And even if he comes up with stuff you do like later, very rarely do people go from disapproving to of a president to approving. Exceptions are like what Bush dealt with on 9, 11. A lot of people who did not like Bush Said I now approve because he sort of behaved after 911 in a way that I liked. But short of a 911 presidential approval tends to go down. Now, the list of impeachable offenses is staggering. We've talked about it before. We. There are some who say there are 25 different issues on which Trump could be impeached right now. But using the military to occupy American cities would be there, gutting the Justice Department and the FBI, turning them into tools of revenge, pressuring media outlets to fire hosts or change programing, demanding that Letitia James, James Comey and Adam Schiff be prosecuted. And by the way, James Comey is now being prosecuted, attacking the First Amendment. The list is very long, but the question here is, do Americans see it? And the answer seems to be that they do. The polling seems to prove that they see it. This is not a survey of progressive activists. This is a survey of regular swing state voters. And they are saying, we've had enough. They want Trump impeached. They want Trump gone. Unlikely to happen for as long as the Republicans control the Senate. But the question is, will we see the Republicans removed from power in 2026? Now, I saw in my subreddit some people going, is that really all it's cracked up to be? Is that really, you know, do. Do. Is that really going to do that much? Well, it's what we can do right now. This November, We've got Prop 50 in California for redistricting and a couple of special elections. That's 2025, 2026. It's take back the House. Okay? We do everything we can when we can do it. It's not everything, but it is crucially important to take back the House. So Trump's presidency could be effectively over. Right now, the numbers are pointing that way. What's left is formally remove Republicans from power from the House. And, hey, you know what? Maybe actually do the impeachment. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. A pending Supreme Court case could strip our Fourth Amendment rights and allow immigration agents to come into our homes for any reason. No probable cause needed. All while Republicans try to twist things so that you think this is all great for America. 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We start today with a YouTube comment from M and me who said, I don't recall those 24 children who died from flooding in Texas getting as much coverage as Charlie Kirk's death. I know it's not a competition, but how do those kids death got casted away whereas Charlie Kirk's death got so much attention? I mean, wtf? Yeah, listen, we spoke about this the day after Charlie Kirk's killing, which was not just in general, other people are killed. Yesterday, the day of Charlie Kirk's death, there was a shooting at a school in Colorado and it got a fraction of the attention. And this is, you know, some of this is inevitable, right? I mean, there's, I don't think that there's any way, any way for Charlie Kirk's killing and the killing of a 14 year old in Florida to get the same amount of media attention. I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying the way our corporate media is structured, that's just not going to happen. But what I do think is of critical importance is that when we hear of a big story like this, the opportunity for me to remind everybody of how widespread this sort of violence is is to say, you know, think about everything surrounding Charlie Kirk's death. Think about all the people that were there who are now traumatized. Think about all the friends and family who have lost a loved one. Think about what this says about the country. Think about all of that and then multiply it by the fact that on the same day Charlie Kirk was killed. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but there were something like 30 other shootings in the United States, I believe mass shootings where you've got at least multiple, multiple injuries and multiply that out and just think of the unconscionable amount of devastation that political violence rains upon us. Guns rain upon us. This culture of firearms, all of it. And so I think, I don't, I don't know that the expectation that it'll all get the same amount of media coverage is reasonable. It just won't. And also if, if all media outlets did was cover shootings, it's all they would do, like to cover every shooting, it would be 24, 7. That's how sick the situation is. But using it as an analogy for we have this times, however many every day, and we're not really doing anything about it. I think that's maybe the opportunity. Matthew Attencio wrote on Facebook, I don't think we're as divided as people think. It's just the narrative of news outlets that are owned by people who want us to think we are divided. What I see in the news and what I see in real life don't match. There is an aspect of truth here and the aspect of truth is that if you just take all issues, including ones that are not controversial, you can nominally say that the country isn't as divided as media makes it, makes it think. So I'll give you an example of what I mean. If you watch political media, you see coverage of who should be president, should we arm Ukraine, what should be done in Gaza, should abortion be legal, how should we deal with poverty? Okay, those are inherently politically divisive issues. But if you zoom out, there is a whole bunch of stuff that the country mostly agrees on. Now you could say, well yeah, David, everybody agrees on that stuff. Murder should be illegal when it comes to, you know, sort of like going out there and sticking an armed robbery where you kill someone or there should be. Government authorities should handle police, fire, the roads. Right. Like the point. I'm struggling to do this articulately, but the point is, yes, we are not divided on huge swaths of issues relating to everyday life. Pilots who fly planes should be properly trained and monitored and subject to competency, retesting, whatever. However, that stuff doesn't get media coverage because everybody agrees on it. So I believe the takeaway is, is twofold. Yes, as, as people, we are not nearly as divided as the corporate media makes it seem. And also some of these divisions that we do notice from watching the news are highly relevant and salient to our everyday lives. And so they aren't any less important to figure out from the subreddit friendly drummers said, I think Tyler Robinson is the shooter. I don't think it could be anyone else. I've seen plenty of people say, no 22 year old texts like that. This text is fake. I can assure you. Some kids are weird terminally online kids especially, and it seems as simple as this. Tyler used a gun. It matches with the gun of his grandfather. The grandfather recognized the gun on tv, knew it was missing. And that was when Tyler confessed to his dad, because Tyler knew his family knew the gun was missing. I mean, the FBI can't just fake all of that. I understand not trusting the FBI, but we can't just deny something just because it's inconvenient. The truth is. Is the truth. Yeah, listen. I mean, you know, even the video we looked at last week of, oh, Charlie Kirk got shot from the back, like, it seemed obvious that that was not the case. Looking at the video, I think that there are a lot of sociocultural and psychological reasons why people start kind of, I would even say, fixating or obsessing over some of these alternatives, conspiracy theories, we might call them. But I believe it. It. All the evidence points to Tyler having just done it. He's, of course, alleged to have done it at this point in time. And sometimes it's nice to see someone just go, listen, guys, I think it just is what it is. Deborah Moore wrote on Spotify, America is in decline. That great. The great experiment is done. Average person just doesn't give a shit. Ignorance, laziness, entitlement, greed are too widespread and has a strong hold on the majority. I really wish I was able to relocate to another country. More people than ever who I know personally are relocating to other countries. I don't mean they're thinking about it. I don't mean they Googled it. I don't mean they said to their spouse, maybe someday we would consider this. I know more people than ever personally who are leaving or have already left the United States. And it's a number of countries that they have gone to. Canada, Spain, Denmark, uk, Uruguay, trying to think of others as to whether the great experiment of America is done. You know, I always hesitate to make these broad declarations. You know, you sometimes hear from people, america so powerful it will never fall. And others say, every empire has fallen. And my view is kind of like, listen, things are different in 2025 than they used to be. I don't know that any of these rules of thumb are necessarily predictive in terms of what's going to happen. But what I can tell you is the following. I hope. I hope that we can survive three and a half more years of this insanity, but if we were to get another version of Trump in 2028, I would start to worry about the survival of this country. Nurpy Scunfo on Spotify says, of course Democrats aren't trusted. Fox and right wing Media smear the Dems 24 7. Republicans lie constantly and place blame on everyone but themselves. Kamala had a fantastic economic plan she made available online and talked about every debated interview. The media held her to an impossible standard. Trump had nothing, no plan, just tariff. And people fell for his nonsense and fear. We will not fix this until Republican voters wake up. I don't agree with this. I think that a lot of the facts here are true, but that the overall conclusion is wrong. Saying Democrats are merely bystanders and Democrats will never be trusted until Fox News says it's okay to trust Democrats. Wrong. I think that that's flatly wrong. Democrats do have challenges to they face based on the right wing media ecosystem. There's no doubt about it. Democrats do have challenges because a lot of Republican voters are clueless. Sure, I will acknowledge that. But at some point you've also got to look inward. And if you said to me, well, David, what is Kamala's great economic plan? I'm not really sure. And I studied this stuff. I can tell you a couple of elements of it. I can tell you about some of the credits and subsidies for certain types of spending, child tax credit, etc. But big picture, what was Kamala Harris's tax plan specifically? I know rich pay their fair share, I get it. But what really was the tax plan? The tax brackets and this. This is not just about Kamala. This applies to a lot of candidates. And sometimes they just tell me, David, oh, I wouldn't be specific about that stuff because I'm sort of short circuiting my own ability to later negotiate if I say too much now. All right, well, listen, I think that there is a lot to point to in this country as a result of education's a mess this leads to. You know, these people who can't think critically, they fall for Republican ideas. I'm with you. But you've also got to consider Democrats in all of this. Absolving Democrats of blame doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Corey Clark says on Substack. Hi, David. I actually thought I was a paid subscriber, but I was not. But I am now. Your podcasts are definitely one of my favorites. You're obviously very knowledgeable in many diverse ways and I like that. I'm 64 and have never felt so uneasy and scared about what our country is turning into. You know, I appreciate this message, Corey. We are building or trying to build more than just a podcast here. We're really trying to build A movement. And the movement includes other shows and it includes you as well. So it's not just the progressive media ecosystem, it's the progressive media ecosystem plus our audience. Corey says he's 64. I recently got a message from an 87 year old grandmother who is a member. I recently got a message from a 13 year old whose parents got him a membership, 1387 and everything in between. We might have some members older than 87 as well. I don't know. This is a movement that I believe should welcome people regardless of any background, age, personally, you know, identity characteristics of any kind. But we've got to all build it together. And Corey, thank you for helping to do that. I really do appreciate it. Jeff Stram says on YouTube, thanks for another fine report. David. I appreciate your videos for many reasons, especially the fact that you create five minute videos to relate five minutes of information. Too many news channels are giving us five minutes of content in a 20 minute video. You know what's funny about this? One of the reasons that I am not as I'm not really like a streamer, you know these streamers who do 3, 4, 8, 12 hour streams. I don't want to keep you here as long as possible and turn five minutes of substance into 20 minutes. I want to give you as much useful stuff in five minutes as I can and if I could put eight minutes of stuff into five that my goal is people are busy, there's a lot of stuff out there. I'm respectful of your time. We are going to keep the show as jam packed as possible as we can. Adri Adrian. Adrian. Adriana. Okay on YouTube says I enjoy your podcast David, but don't think that the current administration will not come for any progressive platform. He'll come for you. Ben Meisellus, Brian Tyler Cohen, Mark Elias, Adam Mockler, Glenn Kirschner and more. Just don't capitulate. Stand firm. Your voice and views are necessary. I really appreciate that. We are planning to be here. We are planning to stand firm. I know Ben, Brian, Mark, Adam and Glenn are planning on the exact same thing. 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Episode: "10/3/25: Trump is getting ignored as pollsters drop brutal warning"
Date: October 3, 2025
Host: David Pakman
This episode centers on deepening resistance among blue-state governors to Donald Trump’s federal policies in his second term, a legal and political exploration of state vs. federal authority, and a sharp analysis of current Democratic messaging failings as 2026 and 2028 loom. Pakman also critiques Trump’s victim narrative, unpacks the real costs of Trump's economic policies, and reveals concerning new polling that spells trouble for the Trump presidency.
Timestamps: 00:07–01:55, 01:55–06:40
Josh Shapiro [01:08]:
"RFK Jr. doesn't run health care here in Pennsylvania. Dr. Bogan does, as the health secretary."
David Pakman [03:30]:
“The key distinctions are that if there is a direct conflict on something which federal law controls, federal law wins in a sense. But big picture, federal law sets floors and not ceilings. If the Constitution doesn’t give federal government power over an area, it remains up to the states.”
Timestamps: 07:38–11:03
Eric Trump [07:43]:
“…they tried to kill us. I mean, I was outside the courthouse… defending my father because they gag ordered him about 200 times … they impeached him once, they impeached him again. … They took him off Twitter. They took…”
David Pakman [08:14]:
“He’s using the ubiquitous ‘they’ even to describe stuff that Republicans did. … He’s referred to a dozen different entities here, none of which are coordinated in any way that they’ve been able to demonstrate.”
David Pakman [11:03]:
“This is a family that wants you to believe there are no stronger people, no smarter people. … Yet despite being ultra-wealthy and hyper-privileged, they are the victims. They want you to believe they are the victims. Not the migrants being treated like crap ... This is the face of victimhood, according to Eric Trump.”
Timestamps: 13:15–19:20
David Pakman [19:10]:
“A lot of the good conversations end up excluded. Some of the participants are pretty obviously mentally ill… It’s almost like predatory to include them in some of this stuff. So, I’ve made the decision not to participate.”
Timestamps: 19:20–31:19
David Pakman [26:03]:
“If you look at the comments on that interview, your reaction was exactly what I was thinking, which is, he's not answering the question... And he never really gets to the point.”
David Pakman [29:35]:
“Mamdani … is emerging as one of the few Democrats who actually excites people and just answers the questions that he's asked.… Even when he says how he'll pay for the bus plan, I don't believe it. But he's got an answer.”
Timestamps: 33:40–37:41
David Pakman [34:54]:
“Every time you go to the store, every time you pay your bills, you are footing the bill for Donald Trump’s economic insanity. … Tariffs are a tax on imports. The cost gets passed to you.”
David Pakman [37:31]:
“Trickle down in the sense of cut taxes for the rich and everyone benefits doesn’t exist, doesn’t work…. It leaves local governments … to try to scramble and cover up the gaps.”
Timestamps: 37:41–41:20
David Pakman [39:23]:
“Might even be unprecedented… you've got about half of swing district voters saying the president should be impeached, and we're only eight months in. Nixon didn't hit these numbers until the end of his second term. Clinton never had numbers like this.”
On state pushback:
"We're not going to let those who do not believe in science ... dictate health care here in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania."
—Governor Josh Shapiro [01:44]
On America’s direction:
“I hope that we can survive three and a half more years of this insanity. But if we were to get another version of Trump in 2028, I would start to worry about the survival of this country.”
—David Pakman [45:30, feedback]
On the Democratic messaging crisis:
“Unless there is a clear platform, clear policy ideas, an emotional connection to voters, Democrats are going to keep running into the same wall.”
—David Pakman [28:35]
On Trump’s victimhood narrative:
“They want you to believe that they are the victims. Not the migrants being treated like crap, not the people being deported … This is the face of victimhood, according to Eric Trump.”
—David Pakman [11:03]
On participating in rage-bait debates:
“I don’t think the conversations that Charlie Kirk was having, and I don’t think the conversations that I would have if I did this event would really foster understanding, advance a productive cause, or bring people together in any way.”
—David Pakman [18:22]
Timestamps: 41:47–53:15
“Absolving Democrats of blame doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.”
—David Pakman [50:10]
The episode is structured as a rapid-fire political analysis with minimal digressions:
For listeners who missed the episode:
Summary prepared for clarity and continuity—ad skips, sponsor reads, intros, and outros have been omitted.