The David Pakman Show – September 23, 2025

Episode Title: Trump medical misinformation explodes as CEO’s admit the truth
Host: David Pakman
Date: September 23, 2025

Overview

This episode of The David Pakman Show examines the recent surge in medical misinformation disseminated by former President Donald Trump, particularly concerning autism and vaccines, and the reverberations of these claims in the media and policy circles. Pakman delves into Trump's most recent press conference, highlights the dangers of his statements, and discusses the White House’s handling of mounting scandals, policy confusion over visa fees, and the private admissions of top CEOs about the economic fallout of Trump-era policies. The episode also features a pointed interview with Nathan Taylor of the Election Truth Alliance regarding alleged voting irregularities in the 2024 election.

Main Themes

• Dangerous Medical Misinformation from Trump
• Fact-checking Autism and Vaccine Claims
• Political Violence and Trump’s Rhetoric
• White House Scandals and Responses
• H1B Visa Policy Confusion
• CEOs Privately Admitting Trump Policy Failures
• Allegations of Election Irregularities
• The Need for Progressive Activism

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump’s Press Conference: Autism, Tylenol, and Vaccines (00:07–09:52)

• Trump’s Claims:

  • Asserts Tylenol taken in pregnancy causes autism.
  • Suggests autism rates are non-existent among the Amish and in Cuba due to lack of vaccinations and Tylenol.
  • Proposes separating the Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (MMR) vaccines.
  • Minimizes the need for the Hep B vaccine at birth.

• Fact-Checking Trump:

  • Tylenol and Autism: No credible scientific link; Tylenol (acetaminophen) main danger is overdose, not developmental disorders.
    “The link to autism is not just, we don't know—it's been debunked.” – David Pakman [01:58]
  • Amish Autism Rates: Under-diagnosis due to lack of access, not true absence of autism.
  • Cuba Autism Rates: Cuban autism rates are similar to the U.S.; claim is debunked.

    "In fact, Cuba has an autism diagnosis rate of about 83 per 10,000 children. That’s right about what the United States is…" – David Pakman [06:32]

  • Hep B Vaccine: Given at birth due to the risk of non-sexual transmission; postponing increases risk.

    “Babies are really vulnerable… sometimes moms don’t know they have it and they pass it on.” – David Pakman [08:26]

  • MMR Vaccine (Separation): Multiple studies found no benefit to separating vaccines; highlights origin of the myth in Andrew Wakefield’s fraudulent study.

• Notable Moments:

  • Trump struggles to pronounce “acetaminophen.” [07:16]
  • Pakman’s pointed debunking and use of vivid language:

    “Trump pulled another turd out of his hat, for lack of a better term.” – David Pakman [02:58]

2. White House Response & Ongoing Scandals (12:09–17:57)

• Press Secretary Caroline Levitt’s Defense:
  • Justifies Trump’s divisive rhetoric as “authentic.”

    “The president is authentically himself. I think that’s why millions… love him…” – Caroline Levitt [12:09]

  • Denies wrongdoing in the Tom Homan $50,000 cash acceptance scandal, contradicting evidence.

    "[Levitt] just lies. Pinocchio’s nose gets bigger the more she lies…” – David Pakman [14:25]

  • Makes false claims about Trump-attracted investments (“$9 trillion secured”—debunked).

    “Donald Trump has not secured any of that money…” – David Pakman [15:47]

  • Suggests the administration is probing “transgender violence,” despite no statistical evidence for that framing.

    “Trans people are disproportionately victims of violence…” – David Pakman [17:57]

3. Progressive Mobilization & The Need for Activism (23:55–28:20)

• Analysis of Democratic Strategy Failures:

  • Republican grassroots organizing vs. Democratic passive critique.

    “One side is showing up in the room, the other is writing tweets about the room.” – David Pakman [22:02]

  • Critique of how the right has outmaneuvered the left in school boards, youth recruitment, election boards, and higher education governance.

• Call for Sustained Activism:

  • Pakman invokes historic examples—labor, civil rights, AIDS crisis—as models.
  • Draws the line that documented abuses and authoritarian moves demand immediate, mass protest.

    “The time for mass activism… is right now.” – David Pakman [29:44]

4. State of American Democracy Under Trump (28:26–35:41)

• Authoritarian Acceleration:

  • Courts and federal agencies stacked with loyalists; protest rights curtailed; increasing acceptance of violence among supporters.

• Attacks on Free Speech:

  • Media purges, comedic voices silenced as a message to dissenters.

• Pakman’s Warning:

  • Democracy is at a tipping point, institutions under capture.
  • Mass activism is necessary to counter authoritarian drift.

5. Interview: Nathan Taylor, Executive Director, Election Truth Alliance (36:49–64:06)

• ETA’s Statistical Analysis of Elections:

  • Uses heat maps and data modeling, adapted from work on international election irregularities, to flag U.S. precincts with anomalous voting patterns.

• Key Allegations:

  • Significant statistical anomalies found in Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Nevada suggest possible vote manipulation—enough to have swung those states.

    “We are able to estimate the amount of votes… potentially 190,000 in Pennsylvania… 190,000 in North Carolina.” – Nathan Taylor [48:37]

  • Patterns, especially in high-turnout precincts, appear “algorithmic”—pointing toward technological manipulation.

    “It’s too algorithmic…we may be seeing a formula in how these votes are being shifted.” – Nathan Taylor [52:20]

  • Potential vulnerabilities noted in widespread use of two main voting system brands; concerns about modems in tabulation machines.
  • Comparison to DieselGate: software manipulation possible to avoid detection during audits.

• Pakman’s Skepticism and Next Steps:

  • Emphasizes the need to verify Taylor’s data and encourages further scrutiny.
  • Suggests a follow-up interview after more analysis.

6. White House Policy Confusion: H1B Visa Fees (67:11–68:10)

• Public Disagreement:

  • Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick repeatedly claims $100,000 H1B visa fee is annual.
  • Press Secretary Levitt later clarifies it’s a one-time fee, not annual.

• Pakman’s Analysis:

  • The confusion highlights incompetence or policy walk back.
  • Even as a one-time fee, the policy would make the U.S. the least attractive destination for highly skilled immigrants.

    “This is nuts in every sense of the word…” – David Pakman [68:10]

  • Critique of policy as anti-immigration by economic means, damaging to business and American competitiveness.

7. CEOs Privately Acknowledge Economic Harm of Trump Policies (Following H1B Segment)

• CEOs admit in private forums that Trump’s tariffs, economic unpredictability, and attacks on the Fed are harming business investment, causing price hikes and job freezes.
• CEOs reluctant to speak publicly, fearing retaliation from Trump.
• Pakman notes that this is not a partisan divide but a matter of real-world economic results.

  “It’s, this guy is wrecking the business environment for us.” – David Pakman

Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On Tylenol and Autism:
  "The link to autism is not just, we don't know—it's been debunked.” – David Pakman [01:58]

• On the Amish and autism:
  "Multiple studies and clinical reports have documented autism in Amish communities. The perception of no autism comes from under-diagnosis and under-reporting." – David Pakman [04:09]

• On Cuba’s autism rate:
  "Cuba has an autism diagnosis rate of about 83 per 10,000 children. That's right about what the United States is..." – David Pakman [06:32]

• On Hepatitis B vaccine:
  "Babies are really vulnerable to it. Sometimes moms don't know they have it, and they pass it on." – David Pakman [08:26]

• On Trump MMR vaccine claims:
  "We have a bunch of studies that have looked at the MMR shot versus separate... No difference in safety." – David Pakman [09:52]

• On White House’s spin on political violence:
  "The president is authentically himself. I think that's why millions of Americans... love him and support him." – Caroline Levitt [12:09]

• On Homan cash scandal:
  "She just lies. It's almost like, you know, Pinocchio's nose gets bigger the more he lies." – David Pakman [14:25]

• On trans violence narrative:
  "Trans people are disproportionately victims of violence, are underrepresented as shooters, and yet Donald Trump and Kooky Caroline want you to believe that we really need to investigate why so many trans people are committing acts of violence." – David Pakman [17:57]

• On Democratic organizing vs. Republican activism:
  "One side is showing up in the room, the other is writing tweets about the room." – David Pakman [22:02]

• On mass activism:
  "The time for mass activism... is right now." – David Pakman [29:44]

Important Timestamps & Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | | ---------- | ------------------------------------------------------ | | 00:07 | Trump’s misinformation on Tylenol, vaccinations, autism| | 03:36 | Amish and Cuban autism myths debunked | | 07:37 | Trump struggles with “acetaminophen”; Hep B vaccine | | 09:22 | Trump on separating MMR vaccines | | 12:09 | Caroline Levitt press conference on political violence | | 13:33 | White House defends Homan in cash scandal | | 15:30 | Trump’s false investment claims | | 17:06 | Administration’s framing of “transgender violence” | | 23:55 | Analysis: Right-wing activism vs. left’s response | | 28:26 | U.S. democratic backslide under Trump | | 36:49 | Interview: Nathan Taylor, Election Truth Alliance | | 41:36 | Alleged statistical anomalies in key swing states | | 67:11 | H1B visa fee confusion between officials | | 68:10 | CEO admissions on economic harm, Trump-policy analysis |

Episode Flow and Takeaways

Pakman begins with an urgent warning on Trump’s dangerous spread of discredited medical claims, methodically fact-checking and explaining the real science. He pivots to the political sphere, detailing how the Trump White House dodges accountability and doubles down on divisive rhetoric. He exposes confusion and incompetence in their policy announcements—from visa fees to economic measures—contrasting public bravado with the private alarm ringing in America's boardrooms.

Pakman's interview with Nathan Taylor provides a skeptical but open-minded look at new claims of technological vote manipulation in recent elections, making clear his standards for evidence and inviting further scrutiny. The episode closes with a forceful call to action: the time for mass, visible progressive mobilization to counteract authoritarian entrenchment is now, and passive critique is no longer sufficient.

Summary Table: Key Segments

| Time | Content | |--------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:07–09:52 | Trump’s dangerous autism/medical misinformation dissected and debunked | | 12:09–17:57 | White House spin: political violence, scandals, and policy falsehoods | | 23:55–28:20 | Why the right is winning on activism, and a blueprint for progressive mobilization | | 28:26–35:41 | America's slide toward authoritarianism; Pakman's call for mass activism | | 36:49–64:06 | Nathan Taylor interview: statistical analysis and allegations of election manipulation| | 67:11–68:10 | H1B visa policy confusion demonstrates executive dysfunction | | post-68:10 | Privately, CEOs admit Trump's policies are bad for business and the economy |

For Further Engagement

• Visit Election Truth Alliance for Nathan Taylor’s reports and data dashboard.
• Follow up on David Pakman’s substack for deeper dives on trans violence and election integrity.
• Upcoming special episodes and membership drive details at joinpacman.com

This episode is essential listening for those concerned about the intersection of medical misinformation, government accountability, and the need for renewed grassroots activism in an increasingly authoritarian America.