The David Pakman Show

Episode: Epstein Files Detonate as Damage Control Launches

Release Date: December 23, 2025
Host: David Pakman

Episode Overview

In this explosive episode, David Pakman tackles the latest “document dump” in the Jeffrey Epstein saga, focusing on bombshell revelations directly implicating President Donald Trump in previously undisclosed ways. Pakman unpacks a newly surfaced Epstein letter tying Trump to sexual misconduct, undisclosed DOJ flight records showing Trump’s extensive travel with Epstein, and the DOJ’s damage control tactics. The episode also documents Trump’s public unraveling and deflection efforts on social media and at public appearances, the administration’s misleading economic claims, and the alleged “Warrior Dividend” scam. Pakman’s trademark analytical, fact-based tone is paired with cutting, sometimes sardonic commentary.

Key Themes and Insights

• New Epstein Letter directly referencing Trump’s alleged sexual interest in young women, written to Larry Nassar
• DOJ Documents reveal Trump’s private jet travels with Epstein, including a 20-year-old woman and Ghislaine Maxwell, contradicting prior denials
• DOJ Damage Control: Attempt to both release and discredit damaging Epstein-related documents
• Trump’s Public Meltdown: Aggressive posts on social media, attacks on media, and factually dubious economic claims
• Misinformation & Fake Media: Dissecting the publication of fake/junk evidence, like a falsified Epstein suicide video
• “Warrior Dividend” Scam: Trump’s misleading military bonus announcement repurposes existing funds, making them taxable

Detailed Breakdown

1. The Epstein Bombshell Letter

[02:10-07:35]

• Revelation: A handwritten Jeffrey Epstein letter to Larry Nassar links Trump to a shared "love of young nubile girls."

• Letter Excerpt:
  Pakman reads the full text, which references Trump as “our President” (then in 2019), stating:

  "Our president shares our love of young nubile girls."
  (Epstein letter, August 2019 – [03:20])

• Context: The letter, written days before Epstein’s death, had not been public until now, despite prior media reporting.

• Significance: This is Epstein’s own writing, not hearsay. Timing and content point directly to then-President Trump, deepening his implication.

• Authenticity: DOJ submitted for handwriting analysis; public not told the results, but released as part of the official record.

  "This is vomitus disgusting stuff. Here is what the letter says in full..."
  – David Pakman ([03:01])

2. DOJ/Trump Administration Damage Control & Secrecy

[07:35-22:00]

• Document Release Tactics:

  • Files released under legal mandate, but heavily redacted, incomplete, and inconsistently managed (documents appearing/disappearing online with no explanation).

  • DOJ issues a warning discrediting the files—undermining their own mandated transparency.

    "This is really another version of Donald Trump's first-term claim…you shouldn't believe what you are hearing and seeing. You should only believe what I tell you."
    – David Pakman ([10:30])

• Coverup Details:

  • The DOJ preempts with disclaimers: "But a lot of it is untrue. Some of it is uncertifiable. You've got to be careful about what you believe."

  • No blanket denial issued for others involved, such as Bill Clinton—only Trump receives this institutional protection.

    "Trump is the only person getting the institutional shield of 'some of the claims in these documents are not true'."
    – David Pakman ([29:20])

3. Epstein Flight Records Devastate Trump’s Narrative

[13:30-23:30]

• New DOJ Emails:
  • Trump traveled on Epstein's private jet “many more times than previously reported," including with Epstein alone, and on one occasion, with a 20-year-old woman as the only other passenger.
  • At least four flights included Ghislaine Maxwell.
• Direct Contradiction:
  • Trump has repeatedly minimized his relationship with Epstein (“just acquaintances,” “threw him out of Mar-a-Lago”).
• No Crime Alleged – But Significant:

  • Pakman clarifies there is no direct evidence or allegation of criminal conduct by Trump in these records—but the extent of the relationship is far greater than Trump ever admitted.

    "This really deepens our skepticism of Trump as an innocent bystander."
    – David Pakman ([23:00])

4. Trump’s Public Freakout & Propaganda Push

[29:00-31:45]

• Truth Social Meltdown:

  • Trump posts at nearly 1 a.m., attacking The New York Times as the “enemy of the people”—using language with authoritarian undertones.

    "The failing New York Times and their lies and purposeful misrepresentations is a serious threat to national security…They are a true enemy of the people." – Donald Trump post, quoted by Pakman ([31:16])

  • Pakman contextualizes:

    "Authoritarian language, 'enemy of the people,' we have been desensitized to…"
    – David Pakman ([31:23])

• Economic Gaslighting:

  • Trump claims “no inflation” and credits tariffs for economic growth, contradicting basic economics.

  • Pakman debunks these assertions:

    "Tariffs do not reduce inflation, they cause it…Prices go up. Claiming that tariffs caused great economic numbers…No."
    – David Pakman ([32:20])

• Unemployment Spin:

  • Trump blames higher unemployment numbers on cutting government jobs, claims all new jobs are private sector.
  • Pakman notes this is misleading and exposes a flip-flop in how Trump counts government employment.

5. Trump’s Greenland Obsession and Public Gaffes

[33:44-38:35]

• Press Conference Soundbites:

  • Trump bizarrely insists on need to "take Greenland" for national security, appoints a “special envoy,” makes false claims about American history in Greenland.

  • Incorrect assertions about Denmark’s military protection and U.S. visits to Greenland in “the 1700s.”

    "There were no Americans 300 years ago, in a sense." – David Pakman ([35:49])

• Technological Ignorance:

  • Trump rambles vaguely about “robots” and “artificial things,” displaying ignorance about AI and automation.

    "We're going to be employing a lot of artificial things…"
    – Donald Trump ([36:59])

6. Mathematical Confusion, Oil Seizure Legality, and Scammery

[37:45-40:00]

• Math Errors:

  • Trump nonsensically promises to reduce drug prices “by thousands of percent”—misunderstanding math completely.

    "We're bringing down drug prices…by a thousand percent, by 1200, 1300, 1400%..." – Donald Trump ([37:45])

• Oil Seizure:

  • Trump claims the U.S. will “keep” seized Venezuelan oil—Pakman points out this is likely illegal, possibly constituting piracy.

7. Trump’s Tangled Epstein Defense at Mar-a-Lago

[41:22-46:20]

• Deflection:

  • At Mar-a-Lago, Trump tries to minimize Epstein ties as routine socializing (“everybody was friends with this guy”).

  • Claims to have “thrown Epstein out” of Mar-a-Lago—Pakman corrects the record:

    "Trump ultimately had a falling out with Epstein because it turned out that Epstein was stealing spa workers from Trump's Mar-a-Lago spa…That’s actually what Trump off. Much later than he found out Epstein was a creep."
    – David Pakman ([46:18])

8. Fake Epstein Suicide Video

[47:07-53:05]

• DOJ Blunder:

  • Fake suicide footage briefly appears on DOJ website, fooling some media outlets.

  • Pakman stresses the video is confirmed fake and cautions against amplification of unverified material.

    "There is plenty of real stuff to go around that I don't think it's necessary to end up amplifying things that simply aren't real."
    – David Pakman ([52:36])

9. The "$1,776 Warrior Dividend" Scam

[54:55-57:30]

• Trump’s Announcement:

  • Claims to be sending troops a $1,776 bonus from “tariff money”—Pakman exposes the truth:

    • Funds came from existing, non-taxable military housing subsidies, now issued as a taxable cash bonus.
    • No new funds, just a cynical repackaging for political optics.

    "Trump sent the troops their own money back." – David Pakman ([56:46])

    "Reallocating money already in the defense budget, slapping a patriotic sticker on it by making it $1,776…Trump reshuffled the budget and stuck his name on it and is ultimately giving the troops their own money back and taxing them for it. This is a scam…"
    – David Pakman ([57:10])

Notable Moments & Quotes (with Timestamps)

• On the Epstein Letter:

  "Our President shares our love of young nubile girls."
  (Letter attributed to Epstein, [03:20])

• DOJ’s Defensive Statement:

  "The Department of Justice has officially released nearly 30,000 more pages…Some of these documents contain untrue and sensationalist claims made against President Trump…To be clear, the claims are unfounded and false…"
  (DOJ via X, [26:00])

• Pakman on DOJ Strategy:

  "This is…a sort of statement you would expect from a propaganda mouthpiece…It's a political defense."
  ([27:30])

• On Trump’s Social Media Fury:

  "They are a true enemy of the people."
  (Trump post quoted by Pakman, [31:16])

• Mathematical Nonsense:

  "We're bringing down drug prices, like at a level that has never even been thought of. By thousands...think of it by a thousand percent, by 1200, 1300, 1400%..."
  (Trump, [37:45])

• On the Warrior Dividend:

  "Trump sent the troops their own money back."
  (Pakman, [56:46])

Structure of Discussion by Timestamps

• [02:10–07:35] – Introduction/Pakman reads new Epstein letter to Larry Nassar
• [07:35–10:30] – DOJ’s strategy: document dumps, redactions, and damage control
• [13:30–23:30] – Breakdown of Trump/Epstein flight records; detail, contradictions, implications
• [29:00–31:45] – Trump’s Truth Social meltdown, propaganda, and media attacks
• [31:45–33:43] – Trump’s gaslighting around the economy, inflation, and tariffs
• [33:44–38:35] – Greenland, press conferences, AI/robotics gaffes, and mathematical confusion
• [41:22–46:20] – Trump’s rambling Epstein defense at Mar-a-Lago, realities behind his claims
• [47:07–53:05] – DOJ releases, then deletes, fake Epstein suicide video; Pakman issues caution
• [54:55–57:30] – The "Warrior Dividend" — repackaging of military housing funds as a taxable bonus

Conclusion

This episode is a comprehensive, incisive breakdown of the latest Epstein-related disclosures and their implications for President Trump. Pakman marshals documents, direct quotes, and years of context to show how revelations pierce through years of framing, denial, and propaganda—from Trump and his allies, as well as the current DOJ. Alongside hard analysis, Pakman’s signature tone skewers Trump’s deflections, contradictions, and cynical repackaging of failed or misleading policy moves, leaving listeners with a clear sense of the shattering of the former president’s self-serving narratives.