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The most ended War in American history Donald Trump's war with Iran is now fully back again. We have bombing. They're talking about taking control of Iran's oil infrastructure. Trump says he's been stealing Iranian oil. I guess it's just not quite over. In the midst of this very obvious stress on Trump, he suffers another public glitch, telling reporters, I love the inflation as inflation is crushing Americans and may indeed crush Republicans at the ballot box in November. We also see a Republican congressman booed at a mostly Republican town hall when he says we just can't afford to give everybody health care. Which raises a very interesting question about where even Republican voters are moving on that issue. Plus, a Fox host's defense of Trump instantly collapses when Jessica Tarlov asks a single question about John McCain and a bombshell report reveals that Donald Trump was seen by 22 medical specialists during his recent physical. The White House won't say why, they won't say who, and they won't report out their findings. A very strange thing and also a weird report involving nipples. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's just what it is. All of that and more today. Well, it's ended nine or ten times already, but the Iran war seems to be ramping up again. Markets collapsing yesterday, and it is fully back on. And I've got to tell You, I don't know whether this is one of those examples where we need to assume stupidity or we need to assume malice. There's that phrase don't attribute to malice that which can be just as easily attributed to stupidity. And that's a very highly salient and relevant phrase in the Trump administration. But I'll be honest, I don't really know what's going on right now. Donald Trump has said that the Iran war is over and is ending so many times. We've got a deal in principle, we're about to sign it, it's hours away, it's days away and then all of a sudden the Iranians shoot down an American Apache helicopter. And as I told you yesterday, Donald Trump, Trump took the Troth Central and said we are going to be hitting them and hitting them hard. And then once again, almost verbatim, Donald Trump saying the sense of same thing in the Oval Office yesterday, this morning about Iran.
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You said that they've taken too long
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to get to a deal. I want to make sure I quote you correctly. You said that now they will have to pay the price. What did you mean by that specifically?
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Well, we're going to be attacking them and attacking them very hard.
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Resuming mine.
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Yeah, well, we are based on the helicopter. I guess we have the right to
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do that, you know, I guess I don't know. I'm just the President, after all, shut
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down a very, very incredible, actually an incredible machine. And at first they said they didn't do it, then they admitted they did it. Sort of easy because we have that. We had the bomb. We actually have the bomb. Got very lucky. That bomb didn't explode. That bomb was lodged in the helicopter. Didn't explode.
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Yeah. So we are 15 and a half weeks into Donald Trump's three to four week war which has ended many times and we are going to be bombing in addition to that a remarkable moment where the orange president said that the United States has been secretly stealing millions of barrels of Iran's oil. Trump goes, I guess I can kind of tell you now, but we have been doing that
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between now when the war is over. Yes, it's coming down. I know you can't. It's going to come down like a rock. And again, we're taking out millions, which I'm just announcing today for the first time, but we've been taking out millions of barrels of oil. You have barrels every night to get oil. But now I'm going to every night
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when I'm on Troth Central on my phone, we're just very quietly taking out
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oil because they just figured it out. So now that they figured it out, I can tell you it was very hard for me. I wanted to say it so badly, but I didn't want to ruin it. But it was very hard. But millions of barrels of oil has come out.
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And despite that, we still have high oil prices, high gas prices, high prices on just about everything. But Trump just casually dropping that one in there, by the way, in addition to everything else we've been doing, we've been taking millions of barrels of oils, barrels of oil from Iran. As the night went on, it was indeed confirmed that the United States has escalated strikes. This is a war. Here is a FOX REPORT about it.
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Jennifer can give us an update?
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Yes, Hi. Hi, Dana. We have reports, we've just confirmed with U.S. officials that airstrikes have begun against Iranian targets. Iranian state media is reporting that those strikes are being carried out on Kesham Island. We heard those strikes yesterday at about this time. The same sort of airstrikes began Kesham Island. Manab Syriac, these are all port and coastal areas where the US Was taking out air defenses and radar systems just yesterday. Right now we can say that Pete Hegseth, the defense secretary, was down at CENTCOM headquarters where he was being briefed by Admiral Brad Cooper this afternoon about potential targets. Earlier in the day, the president indicated and telegraphed that the airstrikes were likely to begin again tonight.
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All right, so this is war. This is war reporting. This is the type of specific information that we would normally receive when we are in the middle of a war. The most ended war in American history is back on. And then in the evening, another Fox correspondent indicated that he spoke to Trump on the phone. And Trump says the Iranians are just desperate. They're desperate for Trump to stop the bombing where we're doing it of the
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country close to the Persian Gulf. This is all taking place as the Iranians are trying to get the United States to stop the bombing campaign. President Trump told me that Iran called him tonight. Top Iranian officials called me very strongly. And President Trump spoke directly, according to the commander in chief tonight as the president was sitting in the Situation Room. And he told me that the Iranians asked them to stop bombing. And the president said to me the bombing will stop shortly of the country.
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Except the only problem with the bombing will stop shortly is that this morning, just hours ago, Donald Trump posted to Truth Social, quote, the United States will be hitting Iran, whose Navy, air force, radar, anti aircraft and all other forms of defense, together with most of Its offensive capability are gone very hard tonight. At some point in the not too distant future, we will be taking Kharg Island. Now understand, when Trump says tonight, that's a post from 8am this morning. So that means tonight, not last night, it's continuing, even though supposedly it was stopping. And in addition to taking Cargill, and Trump says we will take other oil infrastructure points and assume total control of their oil and gas markets, much like we have with Venezuela, which is working out brilliantly for both Venezuela and the United States of America. Not exactly. Not exactly. Thank you for your attention to this matter, ladies and gentlemen. The war continues. The war does not seem to be anywhere near over now, if I'm totally honest with you. I don't expect to be coming to you and saying, hey, we're in week 64 of Trump's three to four week war. I do believe that at some point there is going to be a deal made, even if just out of sheer exhaustion on either or both parties. I do expect at some point that's going to happen. But consider the manipulation of information, the harebrained and misguided nature of even doing this thing. This was never in the interests of the average American to go in and do this to begin with. This has been a disaster for the United States of America. And there must be electoral accountability. They're not going to tweet 25th Amendment Donald Trump. They're not going to impeach and convict Donald Trump. It's not going to happen. But electorally, there can be punishment for the very people who either support this war in the Republican Party or just don't care enough about drawing attention, don't care enough about it that they are willing to draw attention to themselves to come out on the record opposing it. They can be punished in November and they should be punished in November. I'll be one of the people voting to make that happen. The economic story of the last few months has really been a pretty simple one. And we've been covering it weekly, certainly, and sometimes almost daily. The promise of this administration was elect me, elect us, and your prices are going to come down. Things will become more affordable. Inflation during the Biden presidency was Biden's fault. Even though it was high everywhere during COVID and then came down very quickly under Joe Biden. It was all Biden's fault and now I'm going to fix it. A couple of problems with that. Trump said he had the solution, but the solutions aren't don't put negative pressure on prices. Solutions like blanket tariffs Solutions like an optional war with Iran that all generates inflation. And now indeed inflation is moving in the wrong direction. I came to you yesterday with tears in my eyes, on my knees and I said, audience, I'm so sorry, but inflation has reached a 3.3plus year high of 4.2%. And excluding the COVID spike, inflation is higher than it has been in more than 10 years. Now, just as a reminder, when Trump took office for the second time, inflation was 3%. What Biden handed Trump was 3%. We're now at 4.2%. What is interesting, yesterday we talked about the number, how did we get to that number? What are the forces that have been acting on that inflation number and what are the potential political implications? Cool. Today I want to look at who's talking about it and how. Now it is important to consider that CNN and FOX News are very different editorially and in their reports on this inflation number that I'm going to play for you. There are some key differences, but there are also some key similarities. So let's start with the CNN report.
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Other things like eggs up by 4% on a monthly basis and lettuce skyrocketing stock 16%. That's the biggest one month increase on record. Now look for consumers, if it feels like you can't keep up with these higher prices, it's probably because you can't. Right? Wages are still going up. Wages were up by about 3.4% year over year in May. However, that's not even close to inflation. Look at this inflation, 4.2%. So that means if you adjust for inflation, real wages are actually shrinking.
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Right.
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Paychecks are just not going as far. And some consumers, they've had to dip into savings. They've had to put some of their spending on credit cards and that's just not sustainable. It's not healthy. My former colleague Heather Long, I think she summed it up best on X a few moments ago. She said this isn't just bad vibes about the economy. There is real pain, especially for the middle class and lower income household.
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Now, nothing. There is a shock like there's no information being presented there. That's like, oh my God, I never considered that. But the, the, what we're hearing is quite familiar. But it's familiar because it's the stuff that Republicans were saying about the Biden economy, even though it was mostly untrue then. Oh, you know, paychecks aren't keeping up. Actually they were. We had long periods of time during the Biden presidency when wage growth was Exceeding inflation. Your groceries are costing more, your rent costs more, insurance costs more. That was true. I mean, inflation was not negative under Joe Biden and inflation tends not to be negative in the United States. The question is how quickly, how much are prices going up. But the political message from the MAGA people when Biden was still president was rent up, groceries up, all this stuff is up. It's the fault of the president. The president controls this stuff. The president, in that case, Biden must be punished because he hasn't fixed those problems. But then now all of those things are happening under Donald Trump and a lot of his biggest supporters simply don't want to acknowledge it. Some do, some don't. Now let's look at how Fox covered it. Fox tried to put most of the inflation bump on what's happening in the Middle east, sort of reinforcing the idea that as soon as this thing wraps up, all these prices are going to come down. But they did at least acknowledge reality to a degree. Take a look.
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For a month we got a jump of 5, 10 of a percent. That was the expectation from ACPI. That's the headline number, 4.2% year over year. The headline number that was was in line. That is a jump from last month's 3.8%. So it rose month to month. To be clear, this year over year, headline number is the highest number we've seen since April of 2023. Core month over month. I will say, excuse me, not quite in line 2, 10 of a percent. The expectation 3, 10 of a percent. Pretty close core month to month and then 2.9% year over year for core May CPI. That was the expectation 2.9%. Let me tell you what the government is saying because again, it was the energy story that we saw last month. I will tell you the energy index did jump again month to month, 3.8%. But what the government is saying is that the 3.9%, excuse me, jump for energy for the month of May is a core piece and that is 60% of what we have seen in the increase that we're looking at in the markets, of course are reacting. Shelter also increased in May 3, 10 of a percent and food increased as well in May 2, 10 of a percent. And the food at home index rose. Food away from index, home rose. A lot, a lot of this, Maria, as I said it back to you can be tied to the fertilizer issues that we see coming out of the Middle East. Those shipments, those prices, 10% of aluminum comes out of the Middle East.
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So There is a really interesting detail in there. Fertilizer prices are upstream of food prices. What do I mean by that? Fertilizer prices go up, meaning that the input costs go up for a lot of the food that we buy at the grocery store, meaning that there are food price increases that are still in the pipeline that are not even yet reflected. We are now seeing American farmers and others pay more for fertilizer. It's been happening for a few months, but it's starting to work its way through the food system, meaning that the food being grown at higher cost, much of it depending on the growth cycle and the seasonality of it, is not yet in the grocery stores, meaning food prices are going to get even more expensive. Now, it is interesting to see the different spin that Fox News puts on this, but they still are acknowledging some of the basics here. Highest inflation rate in more than three years. They got that. Food prices are up, not down under Donald Trump. They got that. These are the kinds of headlines that used to dominate conservative media when Biden was president, but now they are sort of tucked under the rug. But they're still true. They're still mentioning them. Middle east shipping problems is also interesting because they present it as if that happened. But what they really should be saying is it's only happening because of Trump's optional war with Iran. It didn't, it didn't have to be this way. Interestingly, under Biden, Fox News and right wing media presented relatively low in freight inflation as the fault of the President, even though Biden didn't take any of the steps like Trump has that tend to spike gas and oil prices, etc. Gas prices went up, we were told it's Biden's fault. Groceries up, we were told it's Biden's fault. Eggs up, we were told it was Biden's fault. But Biden policy really didn't accelerate price increases in those areas. We now have inflation rising under Donald Trump and all of a sudden they don't want to go. A lot of this is his tariffs and his Iran war. They go well. There's shipping routes that are disrupted and fertilizer costs and regional conflicts. Shipping issues are coming up from the Middle east because of Trump is the part that is missing there. And importantly, Trump ran on fixing this stuff and fixing it immediately. Prices will come down. Life will be affordable again. A lot of people believed him and that's why they voted for him. Grocery store customers don't care about truth. Social posts and the electrical bill doesn't care who Maria Bartiromo blames People know what they're spending every week. They know what rent costs, housing hasn't come down. They know what food costs. All of these different things and we are going to see if there is a bona fide appetite for keeping Trump and Republicans accountable for the central promise. I will make things cheaper. Things are moving in the opposite direction and now at a faster rate than we have seen in three years. 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If you missed it and you want that discount and you're saying, I am ready to support independent media, simply send us an email info@david pakman.com. there's a backlog of 140 emails from people who want the code, but we will get you the code info@david pakman.com David, get me that code, please. We are running out of codes. Get them while they last. A massive medical bombshell about the oldest president ever. He was seen by 22 medical specialists and the White House won't say who and they won't say why, and they won't say what the findings were. Now, there are two interpretations to this bit of news. I'm happy to be charitable and consider both, but first, let's look at the facts. What is normal? Well, other presidents, George H.W. bush saw five specialists in 1989 for his physicals. George W. Bush saw 12 specialists in his first presidential checkup. Trump saw 22. And Trump used to see a number more like what George W. Bush had. Now what has been revealed is that this happened, but the White House is simply saying, we did this to be complete. In our evaluation of Donald Trump, when the White House was asked, well, what tests did these specialists do? What were their specialties? Who were they? What do they specialize in? What? Why were they chosen? What was being evaluated? The White House is not commenting. Asked why Trump had a second physical last year, the White House is not commenting. Asked why Trump's use of the hair loss prevention drug finasteride is suddenly gone from Trump's list of medications. They didn't say why. Asked whether Trump actually stopped taking the drug to prevent hair loss, the White House has not commented. So there's kind of two interpretations here. One, Trump is seeing 22 specialists because something or many things are wrong with Trump and the White House is covering it up. That's one interpretation of this. The other interpretation is, listen, Trump is seeing 22 specialists be thorough, even though he's in great health, he is the oldest president ever, and we have access to a lot more medical knowledge today than we did in the past. And there is more value to bringing in 22 specialists. What makes me lean towards the former explanation, the more sort of negative one, is that, first of all, we have a complete and total lack of medical transparency for over a decade from Donald Trump. And number two, that there is nothing in the medical report that substantiates what these individuals did or what they found. In other words, words, we've learned that 22 specialists were involved. But if they wanted to be transparent, the medical report they put out could have said, here's the specialist that saw Trump, here's why, here's the conditions they evaluated, here's the test they did, here's the results. They didn't do any of that. So even their characterization of the news of 22 medical specialists is not transparent. Now, we can also get really, really conspiratorial here. Just for fun. Fun. Let's do it.
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Okay.
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Exactly. Trump is angry about that. Could they be choosing to stuff Trump's physical with 22 doctors to ensure that there is a variety of opinion on any particular thing that's going wrong with Trump's health? What would the. What would the point of that be? If you get 22 people in the room and 21 go, hey, this thing is bad. It should be disclosed to the American people. And One of the 22 goes, yeah, I'm not so sure that this is that relevant for the American people to know. You can theoretically hide stuff and go, listen, there wasn't medical consensus in the room that this needed to be disclosed, so we didn't discuss it. Now, that is very conspiratorial. I acknowledge how conspiratorial that is. What I can tell you is that it is really hard to say. Requiring assessment from 22 specialists at your third annual physical in 13 months is a sign of the healthiest person ever. That. That's tough. I struggle to believe that 22 specialists are brought in for the healthiest person ever. Unless you believe that Donald Trump is a nearly godlike figure whose health is so incredible that it needs to be studied by 22 specialists. I struggle to believe that when I've seen Trump struggle to walk around. If all of their findings were benign, release them. But they didn't disclose the specialties. They didn't disclose the tests. They didn't disclose the findings. They didn't disclose the explanation for the second Physical and no explanation for what apparently are medical changes for Donald Trump. It doesn't Strike me as 22 individuals interested in getting a look at the healthiest man on earth struggle to believe that. Now, as far as the cognitive stuff, the cognitive tests, the Montreal cognitive assessment and all of that, the same questions remain. If Trump is indeed so healthy cognitively, why is he getting tested so often? And that is a question we haven't gotten a good answer to. Dr. Oz has said, well, Trump loves the results. That's actually a test he can pass. That's my characterization. So Trump wants to keep getting tested cognitively, but I don't know. I'm struggling to believe that. And especially after Donald Trump confusedly says he loves the new record high inflation rate, more questions are coming up about his big brain. And I think that we should talk about that next. Yesterday, Donald Trump was asked about the new 3 plus year high inflation rate under his administration. 4.2%. Trump ran on inflation will be low. It will be lower than under Biden. It will drop like a rock. The opposite happened yesterday. We learned that inflation has spiked to its highest level since early 2023. It is the highest inflation level in years. And in fact, if you excuse the COVID spike, this is the highest inflation rate in the United States of more than a decade. Trump has asked, are you worried about this? I mean, after all, you said inflation under Biden of 2.8% was a disaster. You said you'd bring it down. You must be worried. And Trump glitches or not. And he goes, no, I love it. I love the inflation. Asking, making some ask, was this a brain event that he just had? Sir, Mr. President, about the latest inflation number which came out this morning, could that be no?
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I love it.
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The numbers were.
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You know what I really like?
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I love the inflation.
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You know why?
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Why?
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Because as soon as this war is over, you know, I can say it now. Something you didn't know. Do you know we've been taking out millions of barrels of oil? Nobody knows it. You know who doesn't know about it? Iran. Until right now. We took out the other night, 22 ships late at night with no lights because they don't have any radar because we blasted the crap out of it.
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So he loves the inflation. Couple possibilities. Number one, Trump doesn't understand inflation. Maybe he thinks, is it possible? Trump thinks a higher number is good, sort of like a score. The best you can do is you get a 10. Well, Biden only had a 3 and I just got a 4.2. Is it possible Trump doesn't understand inflation? Is it possible that Trump simply doesn't care about Americans? And he goes, listen, I'm getting to do a war. And inflation only went up to 4.2%. I don't know, but this has to be made into a campaign ad. You now can combine. No, I don't think about Americans financial situations when I make these foreign policy decisions. The gas prices are peanuts. Gas prices are low, relatively. No, I love the inflation. That would be a great approach, I believe. Now remember that In January of 2025, Donald Trump was handed an economy with 3% inflation. And that actually continued to drop for a few months as Donald Trump's economic impacts took place in April, Donald Trump placed blanket tariffs on everybody. And we saw inflation go from 2.3 to 2.4 to 2.7 to 2.9 to 3 in October. They simply didn't put out an inflation report. Trump didn't like the direction it was going. He's like, no more reports. And then as the reports came back, we saw that in March inflation had spiked to 3.3. In April, 3.8. And the latest number for May, 4.2%. You have to go all the way back to May of 2023 for a number that is even close. And you have to go back even further to March of 2023 for a higher number of 5% of OH in April, 4.9%. That's part of the COVID inflation spike. You can go all the way back to June of 2016. And other than the COVID spike in the middle of the screen here, inflation is higher today under Scrumps President Trump than it was at any point in the last 10 years other than that Covid inflation spike. That is not so good. Trump's answer. I love the inflation. At another moment during this event, Donald Trump completely glitches out and spits out random words about elections being rigged in California. Dear God.
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And it's so bad for the country. You almost think they hate the country because they can't. They're not stupid people. You can't cheat like they did. And look at the election in California as an example. After a week they determined that the kid was leading and had all the mojo. All of a sudden he doesn't make the runoff. And then I hit them hard on that. But I started talking about Steve Hilton, who's a fantastic guy, and I saw them say it was going to be two weeks before they knew, and I started hitting them. It's going to happen to Steve Hilton. Too. It's watch. You got to watch. And they approved Steve Hilton very quickly. They didn't want it.
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There was.
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Trump seems to be suggesting that based on threats he made, Steve Hilton was given votes. I mean, think about what Trump is suggesting here. Trump suggests without evidence that the reason a Republican wasn't doing so well in a California primary was because of cheating. And then he goes, but as soon as I pointed it out, suddenly Steve Hilton does make the runoff general election. So that would actually be evidence of rigging. The idea that Trump speaking changed the vote count is mind blowingly corrupt. But Trump says it like it's something to cheer about. Really bizarre stuff. Then Trump really melts down and goes, they rigged the 2020 election. Remember, it's been six years and we still have no evidence. But soon, Trump says they're going to have the files. It's only taken six years, but soon we're finally going to have those files.
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When I was president, so now they made it so that I wouldn't be president. And because they rigged the election, the second election, as you probably hear and probably know, most of you know, that happened. And now it's been proven and it
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has not been proven, will be proven
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as time goes by even more. So we have things that you won't believe when we release the full files. And you're not going to believe how crooked the second 2020 election was.
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But I have this is just a little question. It's just little old me. I know I don't understand anything and you know, I'm a leftist lunatic according to the White House website and all of this stuff. But if they have all of this information that without a doubt proves that Joe Biden didn't really win in 2020 and Trump won. And like Trump says, he won all states. If the states had all counted fairly, he would have won Connecticut, he would have won New York, he would have won California. If they have that proof and they've had it for six years, why won't they release it? I know it's a crazy question, I know it's a crazy question. Wouldn't you benefit from releasing that information right away? Asked about people afraid that it will be tough to get visas for the World cup to come and play. There was a referee that was sent back to, I believe, Somalia. There's all these instances. I believe the Iranian team can't overnight in the U.S. they have to stay in Mexico and fly in and out for games. Trump goes, no, no, no, no, no. The right people are going to be coming In. Yeah.
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Most successful World cup they've ever had. They never sold tickets at that level.
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Ticket sales are actually kind of slow. Hotel bookings are low.
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They've never sold that many tickets so quickly. It's amazing because you don't think of soccer. We use the word football. Soccer.
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Right.
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But you don't think of soccer in
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this country because, I mean, listen, they use the foot. Why isn't it called football? I don't know.
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Most success. I spoke to Johnny this morning. He's fantastic and he's the boss. He said there's never been anything close to what's happened.
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But because of this success, some people are afraid that it's going to be
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harder and harder to get visas to come from outside.
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Can you.
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We're working on it very closely to make sure the right people come into our country.
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Maybe Trump means they're working hard to make sure the white people come into our country. He said. Right, but maybe he meant white. I don't know. And then finally on the Reflecting pool, a real big brain moment. Trump says the Reflecting pool is taller than any building in the world. What Trump means is that the Reflecting pool is longer than a lot of buildings are tall. Why you compare the length of something versus the height of something else, I have no idea.
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But the one that they're all talking about is the almost 2,500 foot long that's taller than any building in the world.
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Taller?
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No building that's 2,500ft tall, I don't think. But it's like twice.
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That's like going, hey, I've got a six pound hammer. There is not a single ant that weighs six pounds. Okay, yeah, but like what? Who cares?
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The Empire State Building as an example. Much wider. So we just got that open last night. We went to do it before July 4th and it is incredible. It's called, it was originally called. Called 1922 is built. It was called the Reflecting Pond or the Reflecting Lake, some people called it. But it was supposed to be a reflection. It never worked from 1922 because it was.
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Can someone please tell me what is the relevance of the length of the pool compared to the height of the Empire State Building? I just don't understand it. And no matter how long or wide or girthy it is, why does it justify a $13 million no bid contract to do that job under the guise that it was urgent and an emergency? We are in corruption hell, folks. A lot of people put on music while they work, assuming it helps them concentrate. But in practice, familiar songs, lyrics or constantly changing tracks often will take attention away from what you're working on rather than supporting attention. And that's where Brain FM comes in. Our sponsor, Brain fm, is a music app designed to support focus, relaxation or sleep with music created by human musicians working alongside neuroscientists. Instead of generic playlists, Brain FM offers task specific modes like deep work, creative and motivation, depending on what you're trying to do. What makes Brain FM different is the science behind it, because it's the only music app for funded by the National Science foundation based on their unique audio technology designed to influence brain activity associated with focus. Brain FM also has published peer reviewed research showing their technology supports attentional performance. They even have an optional ADHD mode for people who benefit from additional stimulation. But the app really is built for anybody looking to reduce distractions and stay engaged with their work. You can try Brain FM totally free for 30 days by going to Brain FM Pacman. 30 days is a long free trial. Go check it out. The link is in the Description One thing that drives me nuts about political media is how two outlets can cover the same story and make it feel like two different events took place. Not because any of the facts have changed, but because the emphasis of the stories is different. This is why I use Ground News, because Ground News pulls together reporting from across the political spectrum and you can compare the headlines side by side and see how different outlets are framing the exact same issue. You can look at the bias distribution, you can look at factuality ratings. You can see who owns the outlets behind the reporting, which makes it easier to separate the substance from the spin. For example, Trump's EPA recently decided to remove limits on those forever chemicals in drinking water. Ground News shows how outlets like PBS and Raw Story are getting it right and right wing outlets put this anti Biden spin on it. Or they just stay very vague to avoid implicating Donald Trump. Ground News also has a blind spot feed. This is for stories that are underreported by one side and you can also get a personalized feed based on your interests. Go to ground.news/pacman or scan my QR code to get 40% off the ground News Vantage plan. The link is in the description A Republican congressman was brutally booed for saying hey listen, we can't afford to give health care to everybody in this country. This is only about a 30 second long clip, but it really is a sign of where the country is right now. A guy at a mostly Republican town hall stands up and says something that to most people Sounds increasingly reasonable in the United States. Increasingly, people agree with the statement, everybody should have some health care regardless of ability to pay. Now, people often quibble about the details when they say, oh, well, we support single payer. What do we mean by single payer? Medicare for all, universal access. There's all these different configurations. But the question is, should everybody have some health care? And the Republican congressman, Mike Flood says, we can't afford that. And the crowd immediately starts to boo. This is significant. Take a listen. Every working and retired American should be entitled to health care. Would you, Would you sign off on or write up a bill for Medicare for all? We've got Medicare now. We can start rolling back the age 5, 10 years at a time. Would you support that? We can't afford that.
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Yes, you can.
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Now, let me throw in a little detail. The guy's idea isn't even that progressive. Because if you listen carefully to how he said, every working and retired American should be entitled. Every working and retired American. Well, what if you're not working? What if you're not retired? This is actually not even that progressive. There's a lot of people who go, just start lowering the age for Medicare eligibility 2, 3, 5 years at a time and include everybody. Doesn't matter if you're working, doesn't mean if you're retired, doesn't mean just, just give it to everybody. But still, Mike Flood goes, we can't afford that. And the audience boos. Not an audience. That's mostly Democrats, I believe. Anyone can sign up to go to the town hall. I don't know for sure, but I would imagine is mostly Republicans. These are not, you know, Bernie Kratz or activists or whatever. These are voters, disproportionately Republican voters in a red district. And I think that that part is key to understanding what's going on. A lot of politicians spend so much time arguing about labels. Is it universal health care or is it Medicare for all? Is it a government takeover of health care? Have we socialized medicine? If you strip it all down and just like, get rid of the branding and just go, hey, listen, should everybody have some health care? Period? Doesn't matter. Your situation doesn't matter. Ability to pay. Increasingly, people say, yes, they should. We have a very wealthy country here. And even as things are a little shakier now, this is still a very wealthy country with an average, very high standard of living. But there is significant inequality. We're not saying billionaires become illegal. We're not saying every millionaire's salary gets donated to. We're simply saying there are some basics here that we should be able to come together and afford for everybody. We don't need to have homelessness, we don't need to have hunger, and we don't need to have people without health insurance. That's it. It's very simple. And in fact, it wouldn't even be that expensive because when people don't have a home or health insurance or are hungry, that has negative externalities and it creates additional costs. Should people be able to get treatment for conditions without being at risk of going bankrupt? Most people would say yes. And what Mike Flood goes is simply like, that wouldn't work. It might even make health care worse if we did that. It wasn't people should buy their own insurance. It's just we can't afford it. We can't afford it. I don't think voters believe that crap. And I think especially voters don't believe it when they look around and they go, 13 million for relining the reflecting pool. That's what Trump. 13 million won't pay for that much health care. But 13 million for a pool, a war in Iran, a ballroom, that's 200 million, 400 million, a billion dollars, whatever. $250 million worth of bombs dropped on Iran in a couple of days. What do you mean we can't afford it? I don't think we can't afford it. Is is making sense to a lot of people anymore. And whatever pet project Trump or Congress decides to fund proves that there is money. It's just what are our priorities? So listen, people are being told one of the richest countries in the world can't afford health care for everybody. They're not buying it. And I think that that is a really important shift. And it's a growing political problem for Republicans. The coalition is increasingly working class. And working class voters might agree with Republicans on immigration if they can be convinced that immigrants are a good scapegoat for their problems they might go into. Oh, on crime, I agree with Republicans and maybe even on cultural issues. But Republicans get sick, they need prescriptions, they get a flat tire that now they need to borrow in order to fix, they get a surprise medical bill, their parents need health care, their kids need health care. And so reality and ideology will crash. And my suspicion is that this is a really important moment because even if Trump has convinced a bunch of these people around stuff like, oh, we got to get men out of women's sports, this is one of the greatest threats to your kids. When everything's going fine economically, maybe you Go, yeah, I do need to get men out of women's sports. That's important. All of a sudden, when you can't afford health care, I think you're increasingly going to be willing to go with whoever has a path to getting people health care and you'll put aside men in women's sports. I don't think that Republicans are going to imminently lose all of their support. But the booing of Mike Flood when this, when he goes, we just can't afford that should be an important warning sign to Republicans because when they start booing their own elected officials for saying health care, giving health care to people would be unaffordable. I believe that politics is changing. And as is almost always the case when we have these conversations, are Democrats going to be ready to take advantage of this? Because a lot of the ones I interview, they are not convincing too many people. They are dropping rehearsed talking points. And many of you go, David, that, that really sucked. That guy or gal is horrible. Republicans are terrible. But I would have trouble getting excited to vote for that. So Democrats have to figure it out. It's an opportunity to. It is not a guarantee. Asked about bombing water facilities in Iran this morning on Fox and Friends, Donald Trump went on a bonkers rant about rigged elections. Even the Fox hosts were visibly stunned. Why can't Trump answer a question? Why can't he stay on topic? Why isn't his brain working? And you're going to hear Trump go completely off track and Brian Kilmeade tries to bring him back by going, but about Iran, I think it's important to play this with its full context so that you understand how unable to focus on any issue, Donald Trump is raising, again, concerns that something is simply not working cognitively.
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Here is you came to power because you said America wants to win and you win Even, even in 2020, more votes than anyone in the history of the Republican Party. So when you look at this, this seems to be like an anaconda, you say, laying the groundwork and sudden and just suddenly squeezing them more and more and more until they have no options. One of the hits yesterday, as our audience probably knows, is on a water facility. They were already running out of water. So if you can continue to blockade and now you're taking down their eyes and ears, you're letting them know you're not playing games. And, and the rhetoric that's been coming out of them for the last eight weeks really looks hollow today.
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Well, Brian, if you can hear me, I think you can. Yep, I Will say that, first of all, you mentioned 2020. You're right. In 2020, I got more votes than anybody in here.
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Oh, he's off the rails. But just, just stick with it and you'll see how Brian Kilmeade is like, I got to save this guy.
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Republican Party. And we got more votes, but the election was rigged. But in 2024, I really got more. We made it too big to rig. And so it's. But we did great in 2020. That was a rigged election. And you saw it in California. Very interesting. If I could just divert. So the kid got, you know, the shaft and he did Spencer Pratt, he did really pretty damn well. And they threw him out. And it was happening to Steve.
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Remember the question was about bombing water facilities in Iran.
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And I went on a, I went on a tear. And they said it was going to be two weeks and they'll know about Hilton, whether or not he's going to make it. I went on such a tear that they approved it immediately. They approved Steve. It's such a rigged deal. It's so crazy. They were, they, they approved him so fast because everybody was watching and he was leading and it was leading by a lot. And you saw his lead was dissipating rapidly. They would take it away from him just like they took it away from the kid. And I went on a tear. And by the way, we have the US Attorneys looking at it.
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Understand that we are still totally off track. He's almost two minutes in and Brian Kilmeade now is going to try to bring him back.
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And the two weeks said all of a sudden as, oh, we have a surprise. Steve Hilton won. And he did win. But they were going to take it away shortly. They were going to take it away over a two week period. You know, they announced that they wouldn't have the results for a week to two weeks. All of a sudden they approved Steve Hill. But Iran, It's a rigged election.
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Iran.
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But.
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Just brought that up.
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But how do you know.
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But let's get back, let's get back to. I was, I just want to say to the public, it's a rigged election. We need the Save America act, period. Got it. Okay, let's get back to Iran. Much simpler.
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Yes, exactly. Trump cannot focus. He can't respond to questions. He simply can't do it. And it stunned the Fox hosts. You could tell that they were doing everything they could to manage this interview and to try to make Trump seem halfway reasonable. And they couldn't do it. Trump then pulls out this entire thing of we could solve this Iran thing overnight. We're destroying them. Think about how long it's been. It's been months of Trump saying they have no navy or air force and yet somehow they keep fighting. They took down one of our Apache helicopters. Does anyone believe this crap anymore?
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Mr. President, so I get the impression that you're frustrated with Iran.
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I'm not frustrated. I don't get frustrated.
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Well, I'll say it this way. That is almost an ultimatum now that there's no more negotiation at this point. You went back and forth with them, you gave them two weeks and now they have to take the deal that you have offered them, that you tried to negotiate in good faith, or everything goes and the people can be liberated. Is that what's happening right now?
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Well, that could happen if we want to keep going. And you know, the deal is a very good deal. The problem with the deal is that it could be the greatest deal in history. They could wave the white flag of surrender. They could say, we surrender, we surrender, we're finished. We've had at the United States is the greatest power, praise be to Allah. And they could do all of this. They could say it loud and clear. And the fake news would say it was a great victory for Iran. I mean, it's the craziest thing I've ever seen. We're killing them, is killing them. They have no navy, they have no air force, they have no anti aircraft. You know, we're flying planes over the middle of Tehran and they don't, they don't have no idea what we're there. We've knocked out all of their radar, all of their anti aircraft, much of their missiles. They have probably less than 20% about where we think about 20%. Most of their launchers have the missile launches, which are quite important. Their drone capacity is way down. You see it. I mean, it's way down. Their attacks are very minor. They're finished. And yet the fake news, just like with the election, the fake news is out there saying, wow, Iran is doing just so well. Trump is doing terribly. I watched it yesterday at one of the shows, five minutes, haven't seen the show in a long while. This fake Joe Scarborough talking about how well Iran is doing. I'm saying, where do they come from? It's just the craziest thing.
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Rambling, rambling, Mr. President, rambling, rambling, rambling. This is the person who is making decisions about who to go to war with and at least conceivably would have access to nuclear weapons. Trump Says that behind the scenes, Trump says that Iran is getting great press, but that they also are negotiating with us to make a deal. Trump is presenting a completely unbelievable scenario. Let me guess. The Iranians have tears in their eyes. Big strong guys desperate to end the war for the 12th time.
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I will tell you, they won't even dispute it, although they probably would, because it makes sense. They're very good. Iran is very good at publicity, but they're not good at fighting, Right? So I took a look, and that's
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Ainsley Earhart desperate to get this on track. What a Gong show of an interview.
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I must tell you, if they can't believe the press they're getting, they can't even believe it. And they told me, they said, it's amazing how well we're doing in the papers. We're not doing so well. They're negotiating with us to make a deal. Well, Mr. Hard for them, Ainsley is
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not going to be able to do it, guys. She can't do it.
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Because they are proud. They're very proud. We know in the bully. They've been the bully of the Middle east for 47 years. Yeah, they have been. They've been ripping off our presidents and other countries for years. They've been. They played Obama for a fool. The JCPOA is the worst, One of the worst deals I've ever seen, other than nafta. The NAFTA trade deal, which was made.
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This is random words, free word association,
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the worst deal ever made. Mr. President, the JCPOA was a road to a nuclear weapon. Mine is a road that seven times
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she tried to interject to.
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No nuclear weapon. They can't have a nuclear. It says, you cannot have a nuclear weapon. We will not have. And I didn't like it. It wasn't strong enough because it said, develop, you cannot develop. I said, no, I want buy also. So they fought me on that for a day and then they agreed to it. You cannot develop or purchase a nuclear weapon. You know, so it's. We got everything, but the press just covers it so crazily. They don't worry about it. No matter what I do, no matter what I do. The press will say it was a great victory for Iran.
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Everybody's being so mean to me. Ladies and gentlemen, Trump has stated over 40 times that he has. We've basically won. He has said over 40 times. Trump has said over 30 times that Iran's new military capabilities have been destroyed, and yet two days ago they took down an Apache helicopter. Trump has said almost 40 times that a deal is imminent either within hours or days. And yet the three week war is about to get into week 16 and Fox hosts are desperate to save him and they can't do it. The David Pakman show is an audience supported program and the best, most direct way to support the show is by becoming a member. @join pacman.com you'll get the daily bonus show, daily commercial, free show, and plenty of other great membership perks. Get the full experience by signing up@join pacman.com you know, it's pretty common for Jessica Tarlov on the Five to make one of her mayo brained right wing co hosts look kind of silly. But it's not common that the mayo brained co hosts will go, you got me. And that is exactly what happened in this short clip that I'm going to play for you. This is one of those moments on cable news where someone is so committed to defending Donald Trump that they forget that a lot of things are public. And that is exactly what happened here. Jessica Tarlov is talking about the way that Republicans describe Democrats versus the way that they excuse everything that Donald Trump does. And she starts listing all of the things that Republicans condemn in their political opponents. When an opponent cheated on a spouse or lied or insulted a hero or whatever, they attack Democrats. But all of those things apply to Donald Trump. And then Emily Compagno immediately jumps in and goes, no, Trump didn't insult heroes. That's a hoax. And it's not. Well, I don't know that that's what he meant. It's exaggerated. She just goes, no, that's a hoax. And Jessica Tarlov goes, oh really? He never insulted John McCain. And the conversation is over because everybody remembers when Trump went, I prefer my war heroes who didn't get captured. One of the most vile lines a president has used about a veteran in the entire time I've been covering politics. That's for sure.
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Take a look at this board to buy a senator. That's what people are looking for. They want someone in office who they don't think can be bought off. And then about Collins pointing out the 95% voting with Trump, when you listen to Republicans that are going after Graham Platner, they're doing the stuff that Jesse is saying like I was listening to and I adore her. You know, Kellyanne, last night talking about his scandals, cheated on his wife. He lied, insulted heroes. That's Donald Trump. No, he did not insult heroes. Yes, he, that that was the hoax. And when you're saying in I'm sorry Oh. Oh, Donald Trump never insulted John McCain.
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Oh, that's the best she just got.
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Mm. Mm.
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You're right, Jessica. That's right. I like people who weren't captured. Not a secret recording that was surreptitiously leaked, not an anonymous source. Trump said it in public, on camera, in front of reporters. Millions of people saw it. And there's no. There's no comeback to that. There's no explanation to it. There are sort of two different ways to defend Trump. And I think it's interesting to think about and understand this in the Trump era of political media. One is to argue what he said wasn't that bad, or he didn't mean it, or it wasn't in the context that you believe, or the people. People who asked him about it had the worst intentions and tricked him or whatever. The other is just to go, he never said that. The second strategy of he never said that is riskier, because sometimes there's overwhelming evidence. Now, let me point you to a different example. You might remember the allegation that Trump said in private, the troops are suckers and losers that we have corroborating testimony for, but there's no recording of it. So they can continue as Trump and the people around him have continued to do, to say, that never really happened. John Bolton is lying. He's low energy, and he's a bad, you know, I made a mistake in hiring him, or you can't believe him, he's disgruntled, whatever. But it's risky because sometimes the stuff is on camera. And the McCain example is one of the worst possible ones to confront them with, for them, because everybody knows that it happened. And in fact, a lot of Republicans who do revere and respect in their own way, the service of troops and veterans remember it because it was shocking to a lot of them before they supported Donald Trump as well. Trump support. Reporters know that it happened, and even many defenders of Trump admit that it did take place. The debate could be over whether it mattered, whether he meant it or something like that, but there is no debate whatsoever as to whether that took place. And that's what makes this brutal. Let just look again at the look on Emily Compagno's face when she. She got me.
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She got me that Donald Trump, no, he did not insult heroes.
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Yes, he.
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That was the hoax. And when you're saying, oh, I'm sorry. Oh, Donald Trump never insulted John McCain.
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Mm.
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That. That is remarkable. Remarkable. If your argument depends on people forgetting things that they very clearly remember, it takes one reminder, and you've got nowhere to go. And that's what happened here. Now, by the way, just because we're talking about Jessica Tarlov, let me mention Jessica Tarlov blurbed my forthcoming book with a beautiful blurb. I'll just read it. This is on the Amazon page for my book Pay, Pay Attention. This is Jessica here. Quote, if I didn't know better, I'd think Pacman has been reading my mind. Literally. Pay Attention is a sharp, unsettling look at our well founded anxieties over how the attention economy and AI driven media are warping our politics, our psychology and our sense of reality and what it will take to reclaim them. Pacman is well positioned to take on this challenge. His livelihood depends on understanding how algorithms reward outrage, punish nuance, and quietly rewire our brains. I love that. Thank you so much to Jessica for blurbing the book. We're going to officially launch the preorder campaign in a couple of weeks, but you can preorder my forthcoming book at David pakman.com/audition and know that once we launch the preorder goodies, you'll qualify. Just keep your receipt and you'll qualify for whatever we set up. And the book I'm seeing is now discounted, in fact on Amazon Audiobook available. All of that good stuff. All right, I hate to do this to some of you, some of you I'm glad I'm about with what I'm about to do, but some of you, I do, I do feel a little bad about it. Listen, I've got to do a nipple story. Nipple, don't spit out your coffee. This is a bizarre story. There's new reporting from the New York Times that there was a situation room meeting to go over how to deal with the allegation that Donald Trump is obsessed with women's nipples. This meeting happened in August. It relates to the Epstein scandal. What was happening was the DOJ was setting up this searchable database of the Epstein scandal files. And one of the things that people in Trump's inner circle were worried about was that it would surface all of these embarrassing stories about Donald Trump. They were testing the database and one of the first things that would come up when people would search for Trump in the files was an allegation from Sarah Ransom, an Epstein accuser from a civil settlement where she alleged that Epstein trafficked a girl known to Sarah as Jen. Jen reportedly slept with Trump and said Trump was obsessed with nipples and was, and I apologize. Okay, Trump was very rough with her nipples. This wildly triggered the people in the conversation you had JD Vance on one side. This is per Washington Post reporting, you had J.D. vance on one side saying, we've got to release all of it, put everything out there. We can say, listen, we've gone above and beyond. We've even put stuff out that makes Trump look bad. That was JD's opinion. Now, this is very interesting because you've got to wonder whether Vance saw an opportunity for himself there to help himself. The worse Trump looks, Maybe the better J.D. vance looks by comparison. Imagine a scenario where Trump is ultimately removed. J.D. vance becomes president. Little conspiratorial, but it's interesting that J.D. vance was the one saying release everything. But not everybody agreed. Donald Trump's chief of staff, Susie Wiles, said Trump would not want to release this stuff, and reportedly that ended the debate. Susie Wiles, presenting Trump's view, according to others in the room, basically shut the entire thing down. Now imagine the scene, the situation Room, where decisions are made and could be made up to and including to rebuke other countries, decisions about war and national security. And the topic is Trump's alleged sexual preferences. Now, I should mention that the nipple claims are disputed, and I don't mean they're disputed in terms of areola size or anything like that. The accuser, Sarah Ransom, made some other claims that were walked back. For example, she had said, I have sex tapes of powerful men, and then she said, I actually don't have sex tapes of powerful men. Then she said, well, I only walked it back because of fears for my family getting harassed. But regardless, she claimed to have these tapes. The existence of those tapes has never materialized in the room. They were, I guess, acting as if the nipple claims were discredited. But that may simply have been out of politeness to help Trump save face, whatever it is, an accusation that's not been independently verified. Now, I have to tell you whether Trump is obsessed with nipples. The real problem here is that Trump as president is obsessed with enriching himself and starting wars and paying to put his name on stuff, selling cheap crap to his followers, lying, corruption, nepotism. That's the real problem. If Trump were a good president, if I could look at Trump and go, listen, he's perfect on health care, he's great on taxes. Foreign policy is phenomenal. I could go, listen, let him have all the nipples he wants. As long as it's consensual. As long as it's consensual. And it's unclear, based on the allegations, whether this stuff, I think it's supposedly allegations of consensual behavior? I don't know. That's a whole other problem. I'm not even sure, I don't know whether the allegation is that this stuff was consensual. But assuming Trump is, is nipple obsessed and whatever, there's women who are okay with that. If he is getting everybody health care and, you know, making the country respected again, I could look the other way. The problem is Trump does have a reputation of being cruel to women. He was found civilly liable of sexual assault against Eugene Carroll meeting, definite meeting the definition of rape. According to a judge. He, according to his ex, one of his ex wives, he sexually assaulted her. So it all kind of tracks that. Maybe it's true and maybe it's not consensual, but it has not been independently verified. It is simply an accusation. The biggest shock here is look at what has happened to the centers of executive power in the United States. The White House in a physical sense has been degraded with demolition to build a ballroom that we don't need. And who knows if it'll ever happen. It's gaudy. It's just vile. They've built a UFC arena for a fight on Sunday for Donald Trump's birthday. It's the physical degradation of the White House. And the White House has also been debased ideologically by the presence of Donald Trump. And the Situation Room in and of itself now has completely incompetent people in it participating in decisions. And some of the conversations are about Trump's predilection for nipples. So we've, we've gone downhill as a country. Is the big takeaway nipples yes or nipples no? Whatever. On the bonus show today, we will be talking about payouts from Trump's anti weaponization fund. But wait a second, I thought that fund was dead. It may not be dead after all. We have learned that the contract construction of Donald Trump's arch will take three years with 20 hours of construction per day. What do you think that's going to cost? And we will also talk about Alabama's nitrogen executions being determined to be cruel and unusual punishment, according to a judge. All of those stories and more@join pacman.com if you missed the Tuesday membership drive and would like to sign up at 50% off, send an email to info at David Pakman Dotcom. Say, David, give me that code. I missed it. And we'll get that code right out for you. I'll see you on the bonus show. I'll be back tomorrow.