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David Pakman
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David Pakman
Today on the show, we have a wild mix of chaos, confusion and some genuinely concerning developments. We're going to start with the moment on Fox News where Mike Johnson is confronted about Trump shutting down a deal and you can see that he has no answer and he's recognizing that they're screwed. We'll also look at one of the strangest White House moments I've ever seen involving Melania Trump and a robot, a physical humanoid robot, making us wonder what role is she playing? And then this story is not getting nearly enough attention this the Pentagon quietly pushing journalists out of the building after a judge said the restrictions they're placing on journalists are illegal. They said, all right, we'll just get rid of Journalists altogether. We will also look at how the Iran war is landing on the ground with voters Trump needs and some nasty, nasty comments that came in to me. How could anyone write me something so nasty? We will look at audience feedback at the end of the show. Gas prices are up, but it's the final day of the Trump Gas membership promo. Use the coupon code Trump Gas to get a membership for the cost of a gallon of gas. In Trump's America, One of the top Republicans in the country is realizing that they may have no way out from the mess that Donald Trump has created. And I love it when people do terrible things. There should be consequences. And for Republicans that consequence may be you did something bad and you're going to get a consequence. Now it would be getting crushed in November. Maga Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House seems to be realizing that that is a likely outcome. He did a press conference, we could loosely call it, and he was asked why isn't Trump trying to end this DHS shutdown that's causing all of this chaos. And Mike Johnson goes, well, he is. Except the problem for Mike Johnson is that Trump has now said multiple times no deals with Democrats. He has said it publicly. And you can see Mike Johnson's face as he realizes this is not going well. Mr. Speaker, it seems as though Republicans and Democrats are talking past one another right now. Is the only person who can solve this the President, United States? And why isn't he involved? Well, I think he is involved. I mean I know he had a group of down the plan yesterday. Well, that's what's been reported. Ok. He brought some Oval office that he, we have him on video. They love, they love that crap. Listen, just because fake news, CNN reported something. Well, we've got Trump on video. Well, maybe that was an AI deep fake. You ever think of that? Was not pleased with that plan. Well, actually, actually have his exact quote somewhere. I think he said that to paraphrase him, I think he said he's a little skeptical or cynical that, that a deal is going to come together. What, what we're hearing okay in our chamber is that there's discussions going on and Democrats are demanding to break off parts of Homeland and fund it separately. Oh yeah, well, we're going to break stuff off and fund it separately. Is the deal that we want to fix the chaos at the airports or not? And Donald Trump has made it really clear these are sacrifices worth making. It's funny. The most common sort of decision Trump's making. Funny and sad. The most common type of decision Trump's making over the last few months is deciding that other people will sacrifice. When Trump says we are going to go into Iran now, people will die. Some have died and more will die. You might remember Donald Trump saying that one with some incredible bedside manner. He decided, not his sacrifice, not his family's sacrifice. It is other Americans who will be sacrificing lives for his toy war in Iran. Similarly with the economy, he said, I expected gas prices to go up even more than they have when I invaded Iran. But it's worth it. Translated that means he who is a multibillionaire has decided that it is worth it for Americans to sacrifice more affordability, prices of gas and everything delivered by the burning of fossil fuels, which is most everything he decided other people are going to be sacrificing. And there's another form of sacrifice that he is taken on for other people right now, which is if you are a traveler missing your flight after waiting four hours at Houston or Minneapolis or JFK or wherever, that sacrifice is worth it because he believes that he is going to be able to strong arm Democrats and I guess Republicans into passing the Save America act. If only. He says, we're not doing a deal on TSA funding until we get the Save America act passed. I don't think it's going to happen. But he has decided that the sacrifice of others is worth it. But he makes no sacrifice now. If you sit him down, he has given us the sacrifice line before. Donald Trump has told us that he is sort of like a martyr for even wanting to or agreeing to be the President of the United States. He does his whole I could have had a nice life. I didn't have to be here with you people, but I decided that I would. I could be playing golf, I could be doing whatever. He'd probably not. I mean, I guess theoretically he wouldn't be estranged from Melania if he hadn't decided to go into political office. He wouldn't be a multi multiple, multi time convicted felon if he so Trump claims that he has sacrificed by agreeing to be the President of the United States, but he is regularly accepting sacrifice for others, sacrifices most Americans don't really think are worth it. Most Americans don't think that the chaos at TSA is worth is worth it for Trump to get the Save America Act. Most Americans don't think it's worth paying more and more for gas for Trump to get his Iran war. I think you get the point. Mike Johnson also asked, you said pretty recently we're not at War with Iran. Are we at war now? And MAGA Mike Johnson finds a way to not answer the question.
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
You said a few weeks ago that we are not at war with Iran. Is that still your position?
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David Pakman
I think we're wrapping up Operation Epic Fury. That's what I think. And I think it will be done in short order, and that'll be right on schedule. Notice that that is not an answer to the question and the reason they don't want to answer this. You know, this is one of those areas where if you with a lot of political stories, you don't have to be a political junkie to understand the crux of the story. There is so much here in their unwillingness to answer these questions fully that relates to the legality of what they're talking about. Are we at war with Iran or aren't we? Well, it'll be over soon. Operation Epic Fury will be over soon. He's doing two things there. He is not acknowledging that it is a war because he's again referring to it as Operation Epic Fury, which. It's a special military operation, not a war. That's because he, he, he knows that if this is or was a war, Trump did it without congressional authorization. And if he did it without congressional authorization, it would only be legal if there was an imminent danger to the United States, and we know that there wasn't. It's not that it's cool for Iran to have nukes. I don't want Iran to have nukes. It's not because I like the regime, the ayatollah. I'm against extremist theocratic regimes. It's not because of any of that. It's simply the law. If it wasn't imminent danger to the United States, Trump needed congressional approval. He didn't get congressional approval. And therefore, it's a really complicated legal question for a MAGA Mike Johnson to go, yeah, no, we were at war, but it's going to be over soon. And so that's why he retreats to, I believe it will be over very soon. MAGA Mike Johnson knows that his party is in for it in November, and he is panicking and scrambling to see what he can do to save them. Our. I'm quite literally rolling up my sleeves here. But, but figuratively, we need to do it as well. Our responsibility is we've got to roll up our sleeves and absolutely crush them in November. I don't even know how to introduce this one without sounding like I'm exaggerating, because if you just described out loud what I'm about to show you. It would sound made up, but it is very real. Melania Trump, the First lady of the United States, walks out at the White House, by the way, walking really weirdly, which is a whole other thing that I'm not going to delve into. She walks out at the White House with a humanoid robot. Now, I don't mean a conceptual robot, I don't mean a metaphorical robot. She walks out alongside a robot. And the explanation is that this robot is named Plato. And the robot, I don't, I don't want to misgender the robot. I, my instinct is to say he because of the name Plato. The robot is going to be teaching our children classical studies. The robot is Plato. Take a look at this. And if, if you're only listening right now, she's walking out to music next to the robot. And it's pretty cringe. The robots walking around. Now. Everybody's really awkward.
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
Thank you, First Lady Melania Trump for inviting me to the White House. It is an honor to be at Fostering the Future Together's Global Coalition inaugural meeting. I'm figure three, a humanoid built in the United States of America. I am grateful to be part of this historic movement to empower children with technology and education. Welcome.
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David Pakman
I guess this isn't Plato. I don't know, because it's a woman's voice. Okay.
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
And the new Ben Dindos. Helen was a Helen. Charlotte.
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David Pakman
Oh my God. Ok, well, so we're going to stop then. Melania is sitting not next to the robot, actually the robot is somewhere else. And she says that the, the, the robot named Plato will be teaching the children.
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
Imagine in humanoid educator named Plato. Access to the classical studies is now instantaneous. Literature, science, art, philosophy, mathematics and history. Humanity's entire corpus of information is available in the comfort of your home. Plato will provide a personalized experience.
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David Pakman
Yeah, okay. You get it. It's, it's all vomitus. If you're watching this thinking, what exactly is the goal here? What problem is this solving? You are right to ask that question. I'm not against robots. I think robotics is cool. And AI and all these technologies. I'm a technology guy. I'd have no problem with it. We're in the middle of serious issues right now. A war, economic uncertainty, gas prices up 45%, policy decisions that affect millions of people. And the White House is rolling out a robot philosophy teacher. And there's a bigger kind of backdrop that makes moments like this feel even more bizarre. Because Melania Trump is not playing anything close to like a traditional first lady role. Later in the show we're going to talk about her, her legislation and her executive orders. It'll blow your mind. A lot of the reporting over the last years has described that she is completely distant from Trump. They seem estranged, they largely live separately and they rarely appear together in any kind of sustained way. And so you have a really weird thing where the first lady seems separated from Trump, but at the same time is appearing in these very odd circumstances, sort of sporadic, disconnected appearances. She does something weird, something hard to contextualize, and then she's gone again. And there's like no through line or agenda to what's going on. There's no broader role or purpose in this administration. And so that's why I find this whole robot thing so bizarre. If it were part of an educational initiative based on technology with consistent messaging and staffing and follow through, I might be like, all right, well listen, this is the thing that she's up to. These are these wacky one off concepts. She's in a documentary, she's got an executive order, she's walking with a robot. And it only raises further questions about the totality of how dysfunctional this administration is. And a lot of that applies to Donald Trump and the people around him. But there's also the Melania aspect of it as well. Is her presence symbolic? Is she a branding figure for occasional events? Is her area going to be be best? Is it bullying? Is it grammar errors? What is it now? Later we will get to the supposed legislation and executive orders that she's working on, which quite frankly likewise make no sense whatsoever. Starting something new is exciting. It can also be intimidating. Whether you're launching a podcast, starting a business or doing the side hustle you've had in mind, there is that moment where you wonder, is this really going to work? That's where our sponsor Shopify comes in. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world. Behind about 10% of all E commerce in the US and behind the David Pakman show merch store as well. 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It's just if you all want it to continue, it will continue, and if you don't, it won't. The beatings will continue until the morale improves, or something like that. Anyway, the number one way to support the work we do is by getting a membership@join pacman.com today is the final day of our releasing Trump's gas promo where we have discounted memberships down to the cost of a gallon of gas in Trump's America. You can use the coupon code Trump Gas to get that discount@join pacman.com and I'll say a quick thank you to our two newest members. They are Rosemary Rupp and Joseph Mece. Rosemary and Joseph, thank you for your support. I love it. Check it out@join pacman.com I have a major red alert story for you today. Almost no one is talking about this and the Pentagon, Pete Hegseth, Donald Trump, they do not want you talking about this. This story should be setting off alarm bells everywhere. And the scariest part is that it's not. The Pentagon has announced that it is removing media offices from inside the building. For decades there has been Something called correspondence corridor in the Pentagon. This is where the journalists worked. This is how they built Sources ask questions, got information about what the country is doing and could sometimes catch things and report on them before they became official narratives. That is gone. Reporters are being pushed out to some undefined annex at some point in the future outside of the building. And in the meantime, everybody needs to be escorted. Access is controlled. Journalists are no longer embedded where the decisions are actually made. Now, here is. As if that weren't serious enough, here is where it gets really serious. A federal judge already ruled that the Pentagon's previous restrictions on journalists were illegal. The judge very clearly said, the policy that the Pentagon is employing is designed to remove, quote, disfavored journalists. In other words, people who reported on stuff based on what was newsworthy, not based on what Pete Hegseth wants. And they have replaced those journalists with people willing to do the bidding of Trump and Hegseth. The government is trying to choose its own coverage. A judge said that's against the law. And instead of backing off, they doubled down and they said, fine, you know what? We'll just get rid of the press entirely. If we have to allow in journalists who are actually going to do journalism. No, no, no. We'll just move them to some other part of the building. I'm sorry, some other part of the city in a different building at some point. Now, this has very serious practical implications. I'm going to give you an example. Just a few days ago, Caroline Levitt was asked, what are the casualty numbers in the Iran war? And remember what Caroline Levitt said. It's the following. Reuters has reported that about 150 U.S. service members have been injured so far. Can you confirm that number and elaborate on that?
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
I can't confirm this the exact number. I know it's within that ballpark. But I would defer you to the Pentagon for a specific number of wounded or injured thus far.
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David Pakman
Caroline said, I don't have the information as to how many casualties we have because of Trump's optional and likely illegal war. You've got to go and check with the Pentagon. Well, the Pentagon is getting rid of everybody. They are kicking out the press so that you're not going to get the answer from the Pentagon either. And this is exactly how it is designed. They promise transparency. And this is one of the biggest lacks of transparency I have ever seen in any administration. Now, the New York Times, which was the plaintiff in the lawsuit that eventually led to the judge saying this is not allowed, the New York Times said it's going back to court now that the Pentagon said, we're getting rid of all the press offices instead of giving you your press credentials back. And the part that should really concern you is that most people will never hear about this change. Most people will not notice this change. There are very few dramatic headlines. This has not received a lot of coverage. In fact, if I search right now for Pentagon eliminates press office, there's a CBS News article and a Politico article and okay, Axios has a report on press groups denouncing it, but the headline doesn't really get to the full scope of it. So the point here is there should be. There is one profession, there is one profession that is protected by the First Amendment, okay? It is journalism. It's the press. And the Pentagon got a court ruling they didn't like. And so they said, well, we'll get rid of everybody. This should be one of the biggest news stories there is. The, the Iran war is big. There's no doubt. The affordability crisis in the United States is big, there's no doubt. But this is going right at the core of one of the key things that makes the United States the United States. And it is slicing it and just, just pounding and beating and destroying it. And I can't think of a more important story. And another example of, listen, MAGA people, maybe you like Trump's tax plan. I don't know why, but maybe you like it, maybe you like Trump's Iran war. I don't know why, but maybe you like it. But can you put your foot down and say, hey, we've got to defend the Constitution and we can't allow them to get away with this. Or, or are you going to fall for it and go, no, those were fake news reporters and their right to do it. MAGA people, I'm asking you, are you on the side of the Constitution and the First Amendment or do you think that this is no big deal? I would have a lot of respect, I would have more respect for these Magas if they said this is too far, this is too much. They are desperate to save Melania Trump's reputation. And I don't think that it is going to work. Melania has achieved nothing. Melania's most well known initiative is a grammar error. Let me remind you of that. During her first term, they came out very strongly with Melania Trump's big initiative as the first lady of the United States. And that initiative was be best. And a lot of us looked around and we said, seems to be a word missing There Be best. Do you mean be the best? Be best. And this is similar to what happens with Trump. When Trump goes, they're dumping them from insane asylums and nobody wants to go up, say, sir, you mean they're seeking asylum? Nobody wanted to tell Melania, be best is not exactly correct. Be best is not really English in the way that we understand it. We could be saying, be the best, be your best. But no, nobody had the willingness to put their foot down and go, this is a grammatical atrocity. Be best doesn't mean anything. But that is her biggest achievement, the misnamed, confusing initiative. Be best. And now Melania Trump is out there describing herself as, as a visionary.
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
I know, it's completely insane.
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David Pakman
Here is Melania saying that as a visionary, she knows what success is born of and that it's often lonely at the top. Folks, what on earth is she talking about?
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
Across the country today, women are finding unique ways to balance career, ambition and family. We all know these incredible women. They dominate America's fork workforce.
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David Pakman
By the way, Trump's already bored, now
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
more than ever before. As a visionary, I know success is not born overnight.
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David Pakman
As a visionary, I know success is not born overnight. Melania, whose speech is this? It can't possibly. One that's supposed to be read by
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
you, but rather take shape after a long and sometimes challenging process.
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David Pakman
Yeah.
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
Often alone at the top, I follow my passion. Yeah, please.
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David Pakman
Melania's really lonely at the top.
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
To my instinct and always maintain a laser focus. In solitude, my creative mind dances, filling my imagination with originality.
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David Pakman
Oh my God.
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
Attention to detail, demanding schedules and multitasking.
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David Pakman
Anyway, the vague self important language that signals nothing is pretty nauseating, I have to tell you. Totally devoid of substance and policy and there's no real point being made. But a visionary. And we were just supposed to accept this, that this, you know, Jill Biden did a lot of things relative to her areas of expertise. For example, education. When she was the first lady of the United States, Michelle Obama did so much of, of really national benefit, including the entire nutrition initiative that she had. And she wasn't calling herself a visionary, Jill Biden wasn't calling herself a visionary. But they got a lot done. And they also seem kind of like genuinely nice people. A visionary. But then it gets even worse because we now have Melania Trump's senior adviser going out and talking to us about the legislation that Melania is working on and talks about Melania signing an executive order. Oh, they could stop really focused on America and American children. So you'll See her next month, I think talking a little bit more about new legislation surrounding foster care and fostering the future. Remember, she had an ex, she signed with our president an executive order not too long ago, and now she's focused on locking that in permanently through new legislation with Congress. She signed an executive order with Trump. Like what's not mentioned there is, is that her signature is meaningless on the thing. She signed the executive order with the president. Okay, so Trump signed an executive order. Come on. It's okay to say that. It's okay if she just suggests. And then Trump. No, she signed the executive order. Come on. Come on, guys. Now, it's possible that people around Melania don't understand how the government works on even a basic level, or they're hoping the audience doesn't understand how government works. Now, as far as this foster care initiative and legislation, foster care is a very important issue. Very important issue. Foster care is primarily run by the states. It's here's how foster care works in Connecticut. Here's how foster care works in are Kansas. Here's how foster care works in Missouri. Okay. The systems are run by the states. Now, there is a federal role for foster care. I'm not, aside from whether Melania is doing anything, I don't want to pretend that there's no federal role in foster care. The federal role is primarily about money and maybe setting some baseline standards. But states make the decision. States run the agencies. States manage the day to day foster care systems. I don't even like, do they even know what they're talking about? And so all of a sudden we're supposed to believe that visionary leader Melania Trump is working on sweeping foster care legislation and she may sign it into law like when she signed an executive order alongside Donald Trump. What sort of a sick world are we living in? So the theme here is actually one that, that comes from Trump. It comes from the top down. Absolutely delusional. Grand language about everything combined with confusing claims with very little underneath it as the scaffolding to actually back it up. Presentation and rhetoric replacing substance. A theme for the Trump administration. I run hot when I sleep. I end up kicking the blankets off in the middle of the night. I needed this huge, loud eyesore fan before and would still wake up too warm. Which is why I love our sponsor 8 Sleep so Much. Their Pod 5 Smart Cover fits on top of your existing mattress, automatically adjusts temperature on each side of the bed so you're not waking up too hot or too cold.
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David Pakman
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
Listen, I, I think it's terrible. I think it's. I don't want to get political too much here, but I think they should solve this. And I. What I'm hearing is that there are some proposals on the table to get tsa, you know, do funding for the TSA just flew in here and saw a bunch of ICE people down at the baggage claims. Not sure what they're doing at the baggage claims. I don't know if tsa, I don't know. Why would they would be.
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David Pakman
None of us know, ma'. Am.
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
People getting their baggage.
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David Pakman
Who do you blame for all this?
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
Trump? Yeah, I really do. I mean, I, I've seen what's going on in Minneapolis, and I'm very opposed to some of the tactics of ice, so I do. I stand with the Democrats on this one.
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David Pakman
What about the fact that they're walking around without masks on? Does that help?
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
No, not at all. And I'm watching downstairs. We all came in, you saw people bracing themselves, like, what the hell's going on here? And there were a lot of people who were taking pictures and sort of watching them. They were just milling around. They weren't even doing anything. I'm just sort of chatting. I don't know what. What their function was.
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David Pakman
Yeah, we don't know either. I understand the confusion. We're not really sure what they're doing. They're not helping to screen passengers. It's not really clear what it is that they are doing. Very simple question from the reporter. Who do you blame? Very simple answer from the traveler. I blame Donald Trump. She didn't seem confused. She didn't hesitate. This cuts directly against the narrative that is being pushed that Democrats are responsible for the chaos. And this was not a prepared political pundit or a commentator. It wasn't an elected official. It's just someone who's got some other job and she's living through the consequences. She showed up. It's chaos at the departure airport. There's ice milling about by the baggage claim at the arrival airport. And her instinct was, I blame Donald Trump. This is not everybody. Of course, there are people who have become convinced that somehow this is the fault of Democrats. But for the average person, we care about the average person. My analysis, as someone who's steeped in this stuff every day, even your analysis, as someone who listens to political content online, you're also in the minority. We really need to think through how is the average person going to see this? And the narrative that seems to be prevailing for the average person is that they look around, they go, okay, TSA is a complete and total mess. They're not getting paid. There's ICE agents at airports. Who deployed them. Well, obviously, that was Trump. I see what's going on. The president is Donald Trump. He's in power. Republicans control the House, Republicans control the Senate. If they even know that. A lot of people, you ask them on the street who controls the House, they go, I control my House or my wife does, or they don't even know what we're talking about. To the extent people are even making an assessment, the natural inclination is, this is Donald Trump's fault. And when that is how it's landing on the ground, you've got to be very worried about what that's going to mean for how people are going to vote in November, assuming that the left gets its act together and we actually get out there and vote. Here is another set of interviews. And these people are speaking in slightly more coded language, but it's still. Still worth listening to.
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
Mexico. Oh, my God.
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David Pakman
This is insane.
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
I mean, I've never. I've never experienced anything like this. It's. It's crazy.
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David Pakman
Crazy.
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
It's.
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David Pakman
It's insane.
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
I mean, I've never seen an airport like this. Now, when we travel a lot for work, this is probably the worst that we've ever experienced in our 20 years of travel. Actually, we thanked all the TSA agents for their service and coming in today. Correct? Correct.
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David Pakman
All right. And then there's a couple other folks we'll hear from. It's really, you know, inconsiderate of what
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
is primarily based on our leadership here. I think that's the big issue, is the leadership was right and we wouldn't have circumstances like this. This would be a minor inconvenience.
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David Pakman
All right, so people are looking around, they have an experience. They go to the airport, they have an experience. They are saying this experience happened because of decisions that have been made by leadership. And I certainly interpret leadership to mean the people who are in power, which right now is Republicans. So there's not this abstractness of man. Something is happening, and there's some explanation, but it's not really clear why they're saying, we're. We're stuck in this situation. Trump, leadership, Republicans, etcetera, are to blame. In a sense, it's refreshing to see responsibility assigned correctly. People have a bad experience, they go, who's responsible? And, well, maybe I'll vote on that basis in November. Now I have to assume, as it becomes increasingly clear that Trump is not going to get his Save America act passed in exchange for reopening, refunding, tsa, starting to pay TSA people at some point they're going to have to pull it because otherwise they will certainly be crushed in November. They will probably be crushed anyway, remains to be seen. But it will be even more obvious and simply repeating over and over again. It's the fault of Democrats. Democrats shut down tsa. Democrats shut down dhs. The people standing in the four hour security lines and missing flights don't believe it. They are coming to their own conclusions and their conclusions are different than the talking points that are being put out there by the Trump administration. So what does this mean as far as the next weeks, months? I don't see any path out of this other than ultimately Republicans and Trump relenting. And remember, it's, is it even really Republicans? Because we heard earlier this week from Senator John Kennedy who said, hey, Ted Cruz and I had a deal to get TSA going, get most of, get FEMA open. We'll separate out the ICE thing. Democrats would have voted and we could have fixed it. We could have been paying TSA agents by today. And Trump said no deals with Democrats. So I actually think increasingly the Republicans, especially those who are on the ballot in seven months, they know this is very bad. They know we've got to get this open. They know voters are blaming them, not Democrats. Trump seems convinced for whatever reason that he can hold out and maybe get the Save America act passed in exchange for holding TSA funding hostage. I believe that that's not going to happen. And I believe they're going to have to come to that acknowledgment relatively soon. We are in the middle of war. American service members are dying and we have Fox News focusing on the foremost issue of our time. Was Kamala Harris hot? Was she, Guys, no, no, no. I know gas prices are up almost 50%. I know, I know. But come on, was she hot or not? Jesse Watters doesn't really think so. He thinks that she was. Okay, when I tell you that I feel kind of bad for the lone liberal on Fox News is the Five, Jessica Tarlov. This is the kind of crap I'm talking about. This is a real discussion on one of the three biggest 24 hour cable channels in the United States. My reaction exactly. Take a listen to this crap doesn't exist. I have to disagree with Dana. I didn't think Kamala Was hot. Oh, she was attractive.
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
And say hot.
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David Pakman
I don't know. I mean, she was. Okay, but I mean, if we're talking hot, it's. She's not hot. I didn't say hot. I said, well, it's about hot people. Okay, aoc. I'm not going to go.
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Gretchen. What generous.
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David Pakman
The aoc he's not willing to get into. There is a huge. How is this. How is this the United States? There's a big media literacy lesson here. They are not trying to convince you that the Iran war is good. They are not trying to convince you that gas prices haven't really spiked almost 50% in two months. They instead are talking about other things. This is one of these 1984 versus Brave New World type of moments. And I know I've. I've talked about this before, but it bears repeating. For those that are not familiar with this, if you've never read these two books, I can't recommend them to you more highly. George Orwell wrote a book, 1984, and the premise in 1984 was that the government is straight up lying to you. They call a department that wages war in the book, the Ministry of Peace. They call the propaganda department the Ministry of Truth. They are actively trying to convince you things are different than they are. That's 1984. The counterpart to this is a book called Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. In that book, the approach from the government to deceive people is less about telling you that, you know, the hat I'm holding up is actually blue when it's red. Right. It's not about those direct confrontations, and it's sort of about just flooding society with so much trivia and nonsense that nobody's even really paying attention anymore. The book also includes the widespread availability of. Of a drug called Soma, which I don't even remember exactly what the drug does, but I think it just kind of makes people, you know, it's a euphoric of sorts. So people are like, I don't really care what's going on. What we are seeing when. When Fox News does a debate over whether Kamala's hot, right? It's not the 1984 approach of arguing the war is going great and it's cool and gas prices are fine and prices are down. No, that'd be the 1984 approach. They're going with the brave new world approach. Let me distract you with this meaningless trivia. Our friend Jessica Tarlov was not thrilled with it.
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
Take a listen track that says, I can do what I want. I think everyone is being way too generous for these people, including the Dems. Like, Ossoff looks like a stupid. Stop it. With hair. I'm just saying this is the same party that lands people in the Trump administration for wearing hoops and long hair. And then they say everyone is hot. Like, you can't have both. We can. Senator, my boo, you are great. Okay. All right. That's why they called on. Okay, up next.
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David Pakman
All right, so Jessica likes Senator Jon Ossoff, finds him attractive. And then just one more clip here
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
from this discussion, because apparently there's someone that runs this, like, thirst Trap X account, and it's all about Senator Maibu. Yes, yes. But here's what. What she said, sort of what you said, where she was like, it's about the values, and that's what makes them hot. She pushed back against a rebuke of toxic masculinity, but at the same time saying that Ossoff was hot. So I feel like they're trying to thread the needle where they're like, no, guys, it's just about putting men in women's bathrooms. And also, though he has to be a 10 on the scale. It's not that complicated. They're talking like normal people, which you guys have been begging us to do for quite some time.
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David Pakman
Too late.
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Guest/Caller/Interviewee
Jon Ossoff is really good at his job. He's also attractive. Georgia Senate race. Now. Republicans have all but conceded that they're not going to be able to flip that seat back because he's that good. This is just being a normal human being. AOC is very hot. Gretchen Whitmer is very hot. Kamala Harris is very. All right, whatever. Maybe you don't want to go to date with Gretchen Whitmer. She won't go on a date with you either. I'm just saying all of this is ridiculous. You want to be.
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David Pakman
So listen, there's two analyses here, and they're both. They are parallel to each other. Number one, Jessica Tarlov is attempting. And it's tough, given the company that she's struggling there with. Jessica Tarlov is attempting here to make the point that there is that these fan accounts that find us off attractive or whatever, they are doing what the right said is supposed to be a good thing. Talk like normal people. Hey, this guy's attractive. That one. Whatever. That's number one. And she's trying to make the point that this is kind of what you guys wanted. This is what you all suggested. Democrats aren't talking like normal people here. They are Talking like normal people. You say you don't like it. Okay, that's number one. It's an interesting point, but the really big takeaway is the way in which this is serving up pablum to the masses to distract them from what is taking place in this country when there is a segment about this at all. They've got no more unicorns and ponies for their audience. They can't go look at these ginger snaps and strawberry flavored waterfalls anymore because they don't exist. It's a fiasco out there. 40% of the country would have to borrow to make an unexpected to meet an unexpected $400 expense. Gas is up almost 50%. I'm not going to give you the whole list. Beef is up, bananas are up, my beautiful sumo oranges are up. I can't even get the golden kiwis any. Okay, that's because of the season. That has nothing to do with Trump. But the point is they have no way to convince their audience that everything's going well. And so instead it's let's argue over whether it's good or bad, good strategy or bad strategy, embarrassing or endearing for fan accounts of certain Democratic elected officials to be saying, we find some of these people physically attractive. That's where it is. They'd rather not explain or argue. So they'll talk to you about this other thing. 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Incogni's data removal process is independently verified by Deloitte, which adds a layer of trust. You can get 60% off when you go to incogni.com/pacman and use the code PACMAN. The link is in the description. Sometimes I think about the people who write me hate mail and I get a little sad. I has a sad because your life must really not be going well to take time out of your day to send me hateful messages. But listen, who am I to tell other people how to spend their time? We do Friday Feedback where I review messages, positive and negative, from people in the audience who write in. And we start today with someone that posts under the name Soccer and Jetty. Soccer, like the sport Soccer and Jetty. This is what I call an unsubscribe troll. I'll explain that term in a moment. I have two Spotify comments from Soccer and Jetty to read for you today. First, I'm among the thousands of listeners who ended my paid subscription to the David Parkman Show. I used to love Parkman and considered myself a mega fan, but he's become blinded by his hatred for Trump, otherwise he'd support the war in Iran. And then another message from soccer, who says, I'm a David Parkman mega fan and paid subscriber, and have been for years, but I'm canceling my subscription based upon opposition to this war. I'm so disappointed in Parkman for not supporting an obviously justified intervention. All right, listen, we have something on the show called Unsubscribe Trolls. People who write in and they say things like, I was about to get a paid membership, but then you said X and now I cannot in good conscience support you, or I've been a member for so long. But now that you've said why, that was the last straw and I'm getting the hell out. My instinct is that any mega fan who has been a paid subscriber for years would know my last name's not Parkman. Not in one, but in multiple messages. So you know what, Soccer? Take your paid membership that didn't exist, and take your mega fandom, which is a mere figment of your imagination, and flush it down the toilet. All right, Instagram message from a user who goes by MAGA is a cult who says, if my fellow Democratic Americans still believe there's going to be a presidential election, then you really haven't been paying attention at all. All right, listen, I'm leaving a lot of clicks and views on the table by not pretending that the election is going to be canceled. I know that if every day I came on here and I started saying they're going to cancel the election, that it would drive traffic, it would drive clicks and beeps and hits and toots and everything, but I'd be lying. I believe there is going to be an election in 2026 and in 2028. Now, the degree to which the magazine and the Magadanians and the Maga Potamians at the direction of Trump are able to make that election not quite fair and not quite free, or the degree to which Trump will try anything not to lose the House in November, yes, that I believe is undeniably going to happen because they've done it before and they're trying again. And so that's what I'm reporting. I know that there are some in the audience who think I'm not being hyperbolic enough on the issue of will there be another election? I was, I dealt with this previously when there were people who said, oh, there's not going to be a 2024 election. And I said, yes, there is, and there was, but then it's, well, there was a 24 election because Trump knew he could win that one. There's not going to be a 28 election because what, Trump wants to stay in power. Trump's not going to serve three terms. They're going to try to mess with the election systems, but we must stick with talking about the things they are really doing, purging voter rolls, deputizing county clerks to say, I don't accept these results. Not, they're going to cancel the entire election. The election is 50 individual elections. States run their own elections. There will be an election. The question is, will people be intimidated out of voting? Will the results reflect the will of the people that I am talking about and that we will continue to discuss? All right, next is JG via YouTube, who says Trump wanted America out of Naito. Now he's asking for support from Naito. It's actually even worse than that. JG Trump has been previously asked, if a Naito ally is attacked, will the US meet its responsibility under Article 5 of Coming to the shared defense of an attacked Naito ally? And Trump hemmed and hard and was like, well, they got to pay their fair share and all this stuff. It's not clear Trump would come to the defense of a Naito ally. And it's not that Trump is now asking NATO allies to come to the defense of the United States after the United States was attacked. No, no, no, no. That would be required of them under Article 5, and I'm sure that they would do it. Trump started a war, screwed up the Strait of Hormuz, and now wants Naito allies to come in and help get the Strait of Hormuz reopen. It has nothing to do with Article 5 responsibility to come to the shared defense of NATO allies. It's pathetic. And it's a reminder that responsibility goes one way with Trump, loyalty goes one way. Disgusting. Mark Kumar, 2464, wrote about the Iran war on YouTube. Week one they say we won, week two, they say we're winning and week three they say send help. Essentially it's actually even worse than that. Week one they said we won and we're going to have to do way more bombing. Week two, they said we definitely completed all of our objectives and we're doing record bombing. Week three, Trump has shifted to we're going to be able to start winding this thing down and also we're going to be going after energy facilities and doing more bombing than ever. It's actually even worse than Mark is pointing out, but he is getting the gist of it, that's for sure. Richard Harris commented on YouTube. It's a toss up as to whether he, Trump, is too stupid to understand tariffs or if he's lying to his base, who are also too stupid to understand. Yeah, it is really hard, you know, at this point. Do we really believe that a nearly 80 year old man who's been in the political sphere for 10 years and has been president for 10 twice doesn't understand who pays the tariffs? Do we really? What's more likely that Trump is so dumb that he doesn't understand the tariffs, or that he does understand them, but he's glad to lie to his base about it because that's what's politically advantageous? I actually don't know, but I really struggle to believe Trump doesn't understand the tariffs. But I also struggle to believe that he does and he's lying about it in this way. I'm not sure. But what's clear is he's confused a lot of other people about the tariffs. That's for sure, Yuri wrote on the subreddit. What if Trump, out of frustration, spite or desperation, decided to drop an A bomb on Iran? Is there anything to stop him? I'm seriously worried about this scenario, writes Yuri. Between his dementia, the crazy evangelical jellico surrounding him, and Whiskey Pete who thinks God is involved, is there anything that would block Trump from dropping an atomic bomb? I. I brought this up last week and I haven't been talking about it a lot because it's so, so whacked out. But could it get to the point we're in a fit of desperation. Trump goes, let's nuke him. Let's just nuke him. I mean, listen, Trump has Previously wondered why. Why wouldn't nuking Europe be on the table? Remember that vignette from the first term? So that is absolutely a concern. I maybe naively, I'm acknowledging maybe this is naive. I naively think that if Trump thought, let's drop a nuke, that there would be people he respects in the military and around him who would successfully talk him out of it. Am I naive for believing that? Maybe so. Okay, Podies. This is a beautiful message. Writes on YouTube. I named my cat after David Pakman. Love the show. Have for years. And then comments. I'm pretty sure Trump has done the opposite of literally everything he campaigned on. I can't think of one thing he accomplished that he said he would. The ultimate goal of this presidency is ultimately eliminate the middle class, eliminate elections, and ultimately make the Constitution obsolete. You know, Trump did do one thing. He promised to do, actually, two things that he promised to do. He promised to start outrageous deportation campaigns, and he did it. Now, he implemented it differently than he said. He said, we're going to go after criminals and they're just going to Home Depot and restaurants and getting workers and deporting them. All right? But he did say, we're going to do crazy deportation stuff. And he's doing crazy deportation stuff. He also said, I'm going to implement massive tariffs. And he did it. The problem is that the implementation of those tariffs have screwed up basically everything else he wanted to do, bringing prices down, etc. So he has done some of the things he promised. He's also done a lot of things he promised not to do, like starting wars with other countries. Dear God. All right, Robert writes on the subreddit, will the war on Iran cause the Democrats the midterms? Robert means cost. Will the war on Iran cost the Democrats the midterms? Now, Robert has one goal on our subreddit, which is to criticize Democrats. So that's the frame. But Robert writes, it's a sincere question of what may be another case of Democrats pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory. If history is any guide, Democrats never not vote for a war. They always do and will always fund it. That vote is what cost John Kerry the presidential election, at least in part, and the Iraq war, yet another disaster for Democrats who voted for it, including Hillary Clinton. We now have a president who, I am sorry to say, who should literally be in prison, given his past crimes and convictions not starting wars. There are Democrats who feel this is an illegal war at the most, and that they were lied to in regards to evidence leading up to it, the Congress will inevitably have to vote for this war or its funding. Does this have the potential of what was a simple layup and blue wave to that of a blue trickle or even loss? No, absolutely not. This, you look at the polling and it is abundantly clear. Voters overwhelmingly understand that this is Trump's war. It's an optional war. It's a war they don't want to be in. Is it possible that there would be some who say, oh well, Democrats haven't done enough to stop it or whatever? Sure. But the polling is overwhelming. Democrats are set to win the House. The question really is our Democrats going to win the House by a little bit, by a lot, or by a historic overwhelming amount? Now, if something new happens in the next seven plus months, we would change our analysis. But on the Iran war. The Iran war is not going to lose Democrats the midterms. Absolutely not. Send me your emails info@david pakman.com and remember that today is the final day, the final day of our Trump's Gas membership drive. A gallon of gas is the same cost as a membership. If you use the coupon code Trump gas@join pacman.com get those memberships. I'll see you on the bonus show.