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Angelo Vermeulen is Belgian visual artist, whose work crosses over to biology and technology. As a leader of many successful international projects, which are connected to space travel, he spent four months on the flanks of the Mauna Loa Volcano in Hawaii, where he was crew commander of a four-month Mars simulation mission. He talked about his work and his experiences and also explained which space missions are realistic and which are not. When he told Boki and Anže what could future spaceships use as radiation shield, they were left speechless.