Christy Primmer on Radical Responsibility and Rebuilding Your Life

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Determined Society with Shawn French Episode: Christy Primmer on Radical Responsibility and Rebuilding Your Life (March 6, 2026)

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Overview

Host Shawn French welcomes returning guest Christy Primmer—TV host, author, and former trauma counselor—for a candid, high-energy conversation about radical responsibility, self-auditing, intentional living, and what it really takes to rebuild every facet of your life. The episode brims with personal stories, mutual encouragement, and actionable insights on shame, self-discipline, manifesting goals, and navigating the highs and lows of both professional and personal growth.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Radical Responsibility and Personal Transformation

• Christy’s turning point: In mid-2025, Christy decided to stop being overweight, exit partnerships that didn’t match her beliefs, and refuse to perpetuate misaligned messages—despite losing some income and opportunities.
  • Quote: “I realized I was just dabbling… I was afraid of being really seen.” (05:04, Christy)
• Shawn echoes the journey: He describes hitting emotional and physical low points at the close of 2024, finding it hard to leave the couch, and the subsequent decision to take charge via intentional action and self-love, not shame or self-hatred.
  • Quote: “The one thing that bothered me the most was the one thing holding me back.” (13:31, Shawn)

2. Shame, Self-Audit, and Letting Go

• Facing and releasing shame: Both highlight the futility and heaviness of shame as a motivator.
  • Quote: “You can’t get better in any area of your life from a place of shame or hatred.” (01:09, Christy)
• The ‘backpack’ analogy: Inspired by a book discussed, Shawn describes the importance of choosing what emotional weights to carry as you move through life.
  • (07:10 – 08:10)

3. Intentionality vs. Dabbling

• Doing vs. Doing Intentionally: Christy and Shawn both distinguish between going through the motions and truly committing to change.
  • Quote: “There’s a difference between doing something… and doing something intentionally.” (09:07, Shawn)
• Building discipline: Keeping promises to oneself generates energy and opens new opportunities—from physical health to professional advancements.
  • (24:26 – 25:54)

4. Alignment, Love, and Empathy in Change

• Transformation through alignment: Both recount struggles with living an “empowering” outward message while not aligning their private actions.
  • Quote: “I can’t go out in the world and tell someone this empowering message when I’m not even applying it to myself.” (01:56 & 15:17, Christy)
• Changing from love, not hate: They discuss how constructive, lasting change in business, marriage, or self comes from a place of empathy and understanding.
  • Quote: “Still choose to love those things. And come from it… in a place of empathy and understanding…” (26:48, Shawn)

5. Relationship Dynamics & Accountability

• Visualizing resolution: Christy shares her practice of visualizing positive outcomes and sending love to those with whom she’s had conflict.
  • (28:02 – 29:08)
• Self-accountability: Both discuss the importance of admitting personal responsibility in any conflict or perceived slight.
  • Quote: “Even though that person did something to me… what part did I play?” (30:14, Shawn)

6. Industry Growth, Comparison, and Staying Power

• Milestones and the chase: Shawn reflects on podcasting growth—celebrating first a million listens, then 9M, now pacing 13M/year—but underscores the dopamine crash after these peaks. The journey, the “chase,” is where purpose is found.
  • Quote: “Stay in the chase… celebrate your wins, but stay in that hunt…” (33:45, Shawn)
• Consistency and integrity: Christy attributes her show’s growth to persistent learning, deliberate partnerships, and refusing quick, non-integrity shortcuts.
  • Quote: “Shortcuts never sustain.” (80:47, Christy)

7. Manifestation, Vision Boards, and Feeling It

• From wishful thinking to embodied visualization: Both describe key distinctions between simply “wanting” something (fantasizing, vision boards) and actually manifesting—with a focus on feeling the emotions connected to the envisioned reality and letting go.
  • Quote: “If you can’t feel what you’ll feel like in that situation, you’re never gonna have it.” (41:03, Christy)
• Let it go: Repeated advice is to clarify the vision, feel it, then release attachment to the outcome.
  • Quote: “Think about it. Feel it. Know what you have to do… and then release it.” (62:15, Shawn)
• Manifesting happens regardless: “We’re always manifesting—whether we’re conscious of it or not.” (61:25, Christy)

8. Family, Parenting, and Legacy

• Blending families: Christy tells of her husband Anthony adopting her son, emphasizing that true parenting is about love and presence, not blood.
  • Quote: “It’s not about who created that child. It’s about who really parents and cares for that child.” (68:53, Shawn)
• Empowering children through example and provision: Both share visions for creating generational opportunities for their children (“What can I create with that [wealth]?” 85:44, Shawn).

9. The Reality of Wanting to Quit

• Normalizing self-doubt: Both admit feeling like quitting multiple times—even daily—highlighting how common it is even for “successful” people.
  • Quote: “How many times have you wanted to quit?” (93:16, Shawn)
  • Christy: “Oh, lots… For many years, every day… But I won’t quit. I will persist until I succeed.” (95:00–95:40)

10. Determination Defined

• Quiet persistence over loud striving: Determination isn’t always about “grinding” visibly, but showing up consistently, even in the small things.
  • Quote: “Determination just means you’re still doing it no matter what… You just do the damn thing.” (91:09, Shawn)
• Christy’s definition: “Being in it to win it relentlessly… No matter what's going on in life, just being in it. And for me, it’s just—there’s no other option.” (88:57, Christy)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Self-Awareness
  “Ask myself—am I thinking this, or is this something I still need to be carrying around with me?” —Christy (06:07)
• On Marriage and Relationships
  “No husband’s like, ‘well, yeah, you’ve gained weight’…I lost my dad, stuff with our son, and I was drinking and eating to cope…” —Christy (14:23–15:17)
• On Letting Go
  “People, place things in your backpack as well that can get very heavy. And so…do I still need to be carrying this weight?” —Shawn (07:47)
• On Manifestation
  “Your mind thinks it can’t achieve it, if you don’t emotionally feel it.” —Shawn (41:17)
• On Quitting
  “Sometimes I don’t even tell my husband…Until I’m doing it consistently from my end, I don’t want to tell him one more thing that I’m not going to follow through on.” —Christy (92:08–92:28)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro to Radical Responsibility: 01:09–02:08
• Career Milestones & Growth Reflections: 03:40–05:08
• Navigating Shame and Self-Criticism: 06:07–07:05
• Self-Awareness and “Backpack” Exercise: 07:10–08:31
• Intentionality vs. Dabbling: 09:07–10:25
• Personal Transformation Realizations: 11:04–13:54
• Change from Love, Not Hate: 14:23–15:17 & 26:48–27:13
• Setting and Keeping Personal Promises: 24:26–25:54
• Relationships—Visualization and Energy: 28:02–29:08
• Manifestation & Visualization in Practice: 41:03–44:31; 54:36
• Parenting & Blended Families: 68:53–69:20
• Persistence and the Will to Quit: 93:16–95:40
• Defining Determination: 88:57–91:14

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Closing Thoughts

Both host and guest underscore the real work of personal evolution: accepting radical responsibility, letting go of shame, building true discipline, loving through change, embracing the chase, and refusing to quit in the face of setbacks. The episode is a masterclass in integrating personal authenticity with ambition, as Shawn and Christy lay bare their struggles, breakthroughs, and hard-won strategies for building a life—and legacy—by design.

For More from Christy Primmer:
Find her on Instagram (@christyprimmer), check out her books, and look for her TV show “Women Who Lead.”

Episode's Final Message:
You’re always manifesting. The only way out is through—get radically honest, feel your future now, and stay in the hunt… until.

Transcript

[Sean]

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[Christy Primer]

How old do people have to get before they realize, wait a minute, maybe if I take radical responsibility for myself, every faucet of my life will improve. You can't get better in any area of your life from a place of shame or hatred. And I believe that you cannot be cruel to your body and be in alignment. I had decided mid-2025 that I was done being overweight. I was done perpetuating a message that wasn't aligned with my belief system. I was like drinking and eating and I was doing well. I mean, on the outside to people looking in, they'd be like, oh, well, she's gaining weight, but she's rocking it.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

And for the most part, you know, like, I was okay with it. But when you're looking in the mirror and you're like, I can't go out in the world and tell someone this empowering message when I'm not even applying it to myself.

[Sean]

Right. That's it.

[Christy Primer]

And that's when I said to myself, come on, girl, get your together.

[Sean]

I love it.

[Christy Primer]

Like, take accountability.

[Sean]

What's up, everybody? Welcome back. I have an amazing guest today, Christy Primer. I'm going to tell you guys something. She was on my show four years ago. It was February 4th, 2022, when that episode dropped. And that was episod 15 of the Determined Society. And now we're at what, 275 or something like that? It's just crazy. And, and the thing that was so funny about that, guys. And we'll probably get into. Was when I was doing it on Zoom and I. And do you remember when I. I started the recording, and then you're like, hey, afterwards, you're like, you might want to just, like. Like, intro.

[Christy Primer]

Intro me?

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

Intro or your show?

[Sean]

Yeah. I was like, so I had it going. I was like, I just hit record, and then I'm waiting, and I'm sitting there, and you're like, yeah, you might want to wait. So she's the one that helped me with that, because I had no idea what I was doing. But Christy Primer is an amazing human being. She's hosted a TV show called Women who Lead. She's on her sixth season, and now it's prime time to shine, baby.

[Christy Primer]

Welcome to the show. Thank you, Sean. You know, I am. I'm so grateful to be here, of course. And I love Humble beginnings, and I. We were talking just a bit earlier about how just start. Just do it right, people wait till it's got to be perfect, and, wow, four years ago.

[Sean]

It's crazy. I mean, we just. We just celebrated five years.

[Christy Primer]

Bravo.

[Sean]

Five years. And, you know, it's funny, because the first year, and we talk about start slow or just start. So if that was done in 2022, my first episode ever dropped on February 21st of 2021. So that means in a year. Yeah, I did 14 episodes. Wow. I mean, think about that. Right? And now we do two a week.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

And so, you know, you're not always going to start off on the cadence that you want to. Or like you said with your TV show, you didn't even have the proper chairs yet. No, I mean, I didn't know what I was doing. But, you know, here we are four years later, and it's just so nice to reconnect with you because, you know, we. We hadn't connected in so long, and I was like, no, I probably need to reconnect with Christy because it's been so long, and I'm just so excited to have you here. I'm equally as grateful because for me, this is a part of history.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

You know what I mean? It was like when I had no idea what I was doing. I mean, I probably still don't know what I'm doing, but I think you figured it out. I mean, at least I can hide it better, right? But, man, what an honor to have you back as a repeat offender.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Four years later. What's new?

[Christy Primer]

Oh, man, you know, there's so much going on. I'VE actually shifted doing more television. So like you said, season six, we actually just wrapped and just my book sales are doing better than they had been. And I'm actually putting myself out there more. I realized that I was just dabbling, so I was putting myself out there, pursuing my dreams, and I could say it.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

But I actually was afraid of being really seen.

[Sean]

Yeah. You know, it's funny because when I look back right at, I mean, maybe even a year ago or two years ago, three years ago, I was like, I always thought that I was doing enough. Like, I am doing what I need to do. But you. And that could be true.

[Christy Primer]

Right.

[Sean]

For. For the, the amount of knowledge that you have at that time. Now I look at it and like, now I know the back end. Now I know I'm starting to learn every day, and I tell Dan about this all the time is like, I feel like I'm playing chess finally.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

You know, because now I know the back and now I know what works. Now I know what everybody's doing. And so now we're building to a point where we can do that too. And then we're on a level playing field. Right. But you just never know. Yeah. You know, to your point, you were dabbling, but then you probably thought, like, yeah, I'm all in.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

But now you know more, you know, so, you know, I think for me, what's hard is when I. When I look at those moments, I go, man, I initially start to shame myself. Like, you weren't doing enough. How do you work through that?

[Christy Primer]

Well, shame has been a big perpetrator in my life. I was a trauma counselor for 23 and a half years and still active in the mental health space. But I work through it by facing it head on. And I like to really tap into my self awareness. So one of the things, I was actually just talking about this with my husband. I really ask myself, do I. Am I thinking this or is this something I think I still need to be carrying around with me? Like, have I actually learned my lesson, released it, forgiven myself or whoever and let it go? Or am I still needing to carry it around? And 98% of the time the answer is let it go. Like, shame is such a heavy burden that we all carry, especially when we have big visions and big callings on our lives, you know, So I work through it by facing it and I try to normalize it.

[Sean]

Yeah. You know, I love that, you know, we're talking about shame, and that's been a big part of my life too.

[Christy Primer]

Right.

[Sean]

Because anytime I would try to get in shape, I'd use shame. Yeah. And that's hatred towards oneself.

[Christy Primer]

Right.

[Sean]

You just. It never. It never works because you're not operating at a place of love. But I recently had a good buddy of mine, Alex Boylan, on the show. He had a college tour on Amazon, like season 17 or something crazy like that. And he had wrote a book called the Miles that Make you. And on the back of it, it talked about the backpack. Like, once you put in your backpack and carry around, doesn't define you, but it tells a story. And so then one of my buddies, my business partner Pat, goes, well, I read it as. Because I got emotional. I looked at all my past, you know, trauma, I guess, if you want to call it, or.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

You know, internal injuries, whatever it was. And I go, that's the heavy stuff that I don't need to carry anymore. But, like, as you go through life, it's also. People place things in your backpack as well that can get very heavy. And so when you mentioned that you're doing the self audit, you know, through self awareness, like, okay, well, do I still need to be carrying this weight? Yeah. That is such a helpful exercise. When did you start doing that?

[Christy Primer]

Well, periodically, for probably the last 20 plus years. But intentionally? Very much so. The last year, I had decided mid-2025 that I was done being overweight. I was done working with certain brands. I was done perpetuating a message that wasn't aligned with my belief system.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

Yes. I lost a lot of money and opportunities, but I believe that what's meant for me will never actually miss me.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

Which took a long time to really digest and. And believe that too. But, you know, it's like, we get one go at this, and I. I don't want to. I don't want to be waking up every day angry at myself or not in the shape I want to be in or have the stamina or the energy. And I made that decision, like, really intentionally, probably almost half a year ago. And this year has been kicking off.

[Sean]

Come on now.

[Christy Primer]

Like, powerhouse.

[Sean]

Just kicking ass, dude. I love it. It's prime time to shine. That's what you said. Damn right it is. You know, it's funn. You said the word intentionally because I asked you a very specific question. How long have you been doing? I want the audience to really think about this when I say it and repeat it. Please stop what you're doing and really go inward. She said, I've been doing it on and off for about 20 years. But intentionally, the last, however long, like last year. Right. There's a difference between doing something, guys, and doing something intentionally. What are some of the differences that you know about yourself when you know you're actually in intention?

[Christy Primer]

Well, you know, not to play off your show, but my determination, my focus.

[Sean]

Play off it all you want.

[Christy Primer]

Self discipline. You know, it's so easy to say, oh, we're gonna do xyz, but when we don't have the intention and the true focus behind it, we allow excuses. We start hanging out with people we shouldn't be hanging out with. We're doing things we shouldn't be doing. You know, we're not staying in a routine that's actually gonna allow us to win. And so I look at all of those things and dissect it. I'm very, very analytical of many things in life. Ask my husband. But I'm very analytical and, to a fault, critical of myself.

[Sean]

Yeah. The critical aspect I could really relate to. Yeah. I mean, and it's heavy a lot of the time, right. Because, like, especially if I screw up at home, like, I get impatient with, you know, my wife or my kids, like, I'll internalize it. I'll be very critical of myself. But then what I realize is it doesn't help me move forward. What I need to do in the moment is, like, you know what? I was wrong. I made a mistake. Do you forgive me? You know, and I think those are powerful moments. But, dude, like, you know, the journey is so different for everybody. But the. When we were talking about intentionality, you know, for me, like, I look back and I thought I was doing all the things.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

And I thought I was ready, and. No, I wasn't, because I wasn't intentional with me. And I had a similar. This flies, like, all around me. Do you see that thing?

[Christy Primer]

It's crazy. That's what we say.

[Sean]

Cool. Well, yeah, they puke on you, though. So I've been thrown up on, like, seven. Yeah. Like. Well, the ones in America do. I don't know about Canada.

[Christy Primer]

They definitely do in Canada.

[Sean]

Okay, cool. All right. Awesome. But the. The thing of the matter is, is that, you know, at the end of 2024, I had the same realization. You know, the audience is probably tired of me hearing of hearing about it, but it's a story, and, like, the more and more I tell it, repetition works 1,000%.

[Christy Primer]

Right.

[Sean]

Because every time they hear it, they might pick up something different.

[Christy Primer]

That's right.

[Sean]

But there was a moment where. And I just couldn't. It was hard for me to get off the couch unless I was recording. So if I wasn't recording, I was laying down on the couch in a blanket.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Watching tv. Being depressed. Yeah. I was unhappy with me. Right. I could. I was like, oh, I thought it was. I'm not doing well in revenue. I don't have any investors. I can't. Can't get anybody to invest in the show. Nobody gets it.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Wasn't that. Nobody got me. And that was on me. That was. That was my.

[Christy Primer]

That's when the mirror comes, though.

[Sean]

Oh, my God, that mirror, like that thing scared the shit out of me. Right. So I remember one day sitting in a room, and my good friend Jeff Delaney was there, and I said I couldn't even look at him, and ended up. He comes, starts talking to me, and I was like, hey, dude, I need your help. I was like, I can't get out of my own way. At that point, I was 228 pound, 230. Very, very heavy for 5 11. Right. And I made a decision that I was going to go to him, you know, and I was going to go to his weight loss clinic. I was going to be consistent with my hormone therapy for his other clinic. He's like, okay, listen, this is what I want you to do. I want you to go have a good time for Thanksgiving. But when you come back, get a hold of me, and if you're serious, let's do it. Let's roll. So, you know, fast forward to however long it is now 182, you know, much leaner, great shape. But the thing that helped me was being intentional with what I eat, planning my day and coming from it out of a place of love and respect for myself instead of shaming myself. It gave it this ability to become a lifestyle. And I have sustainability with it now because I'm not constantly worrying about is this working or what not. Because what I do know is I speak better, my show's gotten better. We have revenue, we have investors. Like, we have everything now since I did that. And so what that tells me is the one thing that bothered me the most was the one thing holding me back.

[Christy Primer]

Oh, it's always true.

[Sean]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

Gosh, I relate to that so much.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

You know, you just said something about you can't get better in any area. I believe in any area of your life from a place of shame or hatred. And I believe that you cannot be cruel to your body and be in alignment. And that was a hard lesson I had to look at because My husband loves me all sizes. When he met me, I was like, £130. I'm not that now.

[Sean]

Right, right.

[Christy Primer]

And that's not my goal. But my goal is, yes, to shed weight, release weight, but to be healthier for longevity. But my husband's always worshiped me as a woman, like, my body, and always complimented me. And I had to say to him, you know, that's great, but please don't. You don't have to love me the wrong way. Like, please hold me accountable. Like, not because you don't love me,

[Sean]

but because you see that? That's big. That's big. Shout out to Anthony, man. That's pretty big.

[Christy Primer]

And he probably didn't know what to say because no husband's like, well, yeah, you've gained weight. You know, like. But it wasn't the way it was. I'd been through a lot of things. My business really took a hit, you know, like, just stuff that happened. I lost my dad, but just stuff with our son, and. And I was, like, drinking and eating to. To cope, and I was doing well. I mean, on the outside to people looking in, they'd be like, oh, well, she's gained weight, but she's rocking it.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

And for the most part, you know, like, I was okay with it. But when you're looking in the mirror and you're looking at yourself and you're like, I can't go out in the world and tell someone this empowering message when I'm not even applying it to myself. Right? Bingo.

[Sean]

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[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

It's like, yeah, my show. Right. Like, I'm. I'm intentional with my show. I'm disciplined and determination in that. But that's only part of my life. That's just what I do. And I wasn't living that. I wasn't the living. I wasn't the walking billboard in the Determined Society. Am I in now? I. I believe you are now. I believe so. 1 billion percent. Like, but that took work. Right. And you know, to your point, you can't do it out of shame or, or self hatred. And that works for about a week or two. I mean, it really does.

[Christy Primer]

It does.

[Sean]

But how rewarding is it? Not. Not. It's not. It hurts. Right. Because you're constantly. You're in this. You're in this mode where it's just, no matter what, it's not good enough. You know, it's just not good enough. Like, you know, I'm still, you know, 220 pounds. I, I should be. I, I should be 205 at this point.

[Christy Primer]

Right.

[Sean]

And once I let that go and just said, all right, well, this meal, I'm gonna have this. Because this is on the plan. I said I would. Yep. You know, now I'll mix in some. Some stuff. Right.

[Christy Primer]

But I love plans. Because they work.

[Sean]

Yes.

[Christy Primer]

If you work the plan, the plan works. Yeah.

[Sean]

I gotta. Damn it. I had a donut. They had donuts in there. I had a donut, but they said they were more healthier ingredients. I'm like, boom, great. Give me the maple bacon one. But. But, I mean, I know I can do that. Yeah. Right. And it's not going to hurt me because I know what's going to happen the rest of the day. I had that. So if that. Then this. Yeah. It's like, you know, the next meal is a protein shake, and then the next meal is chicken, and the next meal is whatever. And so my point is, is when you have that plan, whether it's in your personal life or your business, it doesn't matter. Because the one thing that is truth is they all work in unison.

[Christy Primer]

That's Right.

[Sean]

You don't have to know. You don't have to know how. You just have to know that whatever I say I'm gonna do, I'm gonna stick to it. And then everything else just starts falling into place. It's weird how that happens, right?

[Christy Primer]

It is. And, you know, I'm actually. I'm walking through that season right now. So I made a commitment. I let myself kind of slack a little through. We got to our house in Florida in October. So, you know, got a golf cart ride. We're going. You know, we do all these things. And I said to Anthony, I said, you know, I'm gonna let myself just kind of, like, go wild. We eat very clean. That's not. I didn't gain weight from eating clean. I gained weight from the snacking and too much wine, you know, and not working out enough.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

But I said, I'm gonna do this. This is my plan. And then I'm gonna do dry January. I'm gonna go hardcore at my gym membership, and everything's gonna start working out better. And he was like, okay, yeah, babe, I support you. And he does. I'm very blessed that way. So I started. I did all those things, and that accomplishment of keeping my promises to myself, not for anyone but me. Wow. Like, the things happening right now, the opportunities, and I'm not where I want to be, but I'm. I'm in the mind frame that's going to get me there.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

And I'm going to just enjoy the. You know what out of this journey. Because life is like when you. When you. I don't know if you get this, but when I do what I say I'm going to do, and I don't like working out all the time. I don't go because I love it all the time.

[Sean]

I despise it.

[Christy Primer]

See? But you do it because it's a means to get you to where you want to be. And when you do those things and you're like, wow, I'm going to bed tonight, and I'm so proud of myself. And then the next morning, you wake up and you get an email from a brand that never looked at you before. And it wasn't. I don't think, for me, it wasn't size or whatever. Energy speaks volumes. Our energy is talking all the time. Our online presence. When we walk into a room, people can feel us. Right. And so when we're in denial and not aware of what we're putting out there, but we think, you know, it's all good, that affects Everything. Marriages, children, friendships, business, our money. And I don't want my money messed with. I don't know about you.

[Sean]

You've always said that. Yes, I like said that. Yeah, no, it's great. Right. But it's also one of those things where, you know, you. Oh my gosh. What did you say? Earlier you talked about, we were talking about relationships and you just said marriage. And so I really want to, I want to dive into that really quickly because anytime you try to fix something in business, a relationship, yourself, the first, the first knee jerk reaction for everybody is like, I hate this about me, or I hate this about my spouse, or I hate this about my business. So I'm going to change it. What I found is, you know, because I said I needed to come out my transformation from a place of love. So if you are unhappy in your marriage. Right. Not you, but the audience I'm looking at, if you're unhappy with yourself, you're unhappy with your business, still choose to love those things.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

And come from it, you know, in a place of empathy and understanding, especially with your significant other.

[Christy Primer]

Absolutely.

[Sean]

Because if you, if you have some, some issues in a marriage, which every marriage has every. Oh, my gosh, someone says like, oh, my marriage is perfect. You're a liar. Get out of my face. You're not even human. No, no, no. We all have issues in our relationships, even friendships.

[Christy Primer]

Absolutely.

[Sean]

Business, partnerships, it doesn't matter. No one is the same person. We think of things differently and we see things differently. So it's like, but if I want to fix something in my marriage, I'm going to try to do what I can. And too many people are trying to control that other person or that other entity or variable in their business or whatever it is, and they lose all the time because they haven't held the mirror up.

[Christy Primer]

That's right.

[Sean]

That's all you need.

[Christy Primer]

And one of the things that I do this in my own life. I always joke that Anthony's had custody of me since I was 24 because I've been with him since I was 24 and I'll be 47 this year. So it's a long time time. So I, you know, I say that half jokingly because I'm like, if something's wrong with me, blame him.

[Sean]

Damn it, Anthony, it's all your fault.

[Christy Primer]

But no, in, in all reality, what I do is I visualize people, how I want them to receive me. So, like, if there's a person I've had a conflict with, I will visualize that being Resolved easily or I will send them love. And, and it's not always easy to do, you know, like some people have really hurt me or deceived me and I pray about it. I'll. I'll try to visualize it. But when it comes to like my marriage, I have an amazing marriage, but it's taken a lot of work and certain seasons in my marriage haven't always been hunky dory, you know.

[Sean]

Yeah. And they shouldn't be.

[Christy Primer]

Same with parenting as your, as your children age. Like, we only have one child, he's 25, but I mean, we parent differently. So I mean, there's so many things. And then business, that's a whole other thing. People that, you know are always late or they don't do what they say going to do or. And then you have to navigate that, but you have to do it. What I like to think is with class for yourself first.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

Because it goes back to that energy. Right. You don't want to be upset with something going on in other areas of your life and then pollute your home life.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

Right.

[Sean]

You said something interesting. How I want someone to respond to me or perceive me or so. Yes. Receive me, you know, and that all comes from energy. That all comes from being intentional in the, in the words that you speak. But also having. I already said energy. But having that warm feeling when you're approaching somebody, even if that relationship's bad.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

They can feel it. They can say, oh, okay, Chrissy isn't coming at me with that energy right now. This is actually. Okay. Then you find that common ground.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

And things can improve that way.

[Christy Primer]

Safer.

[Sean]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Christy Primer]

And like I said, it's not always easy. But I'm also very mindful of who I associate with. And. And I mean, believe me, I've learned the hard way. I thought I had people figured out and then I'm like, oh, I didn't see that coming.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

And sometimes it's like, wow, okay, next. And sometimes it takes some time to really like, process it.

[Sean]

Right.

[Christy Primer]

Because I don't want something someone else did to affect my trust issues with other people.

[Sean]

Yeah. Because that other person shouldn't pay for that person.

[Christy Primer]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Sean]

I mean, like, come on. Yeah. You know, I always look at too is like, is what. Even though that person did something to me or I'm perceiving it that way. What part did I play exactly?

[Christy Primer]

What was your role?

[Sean]

What was my role?

[Christy Primer]

You know?

[Sean]

You know, and. And it's crazy because in this business. And when I say this, you're gonna be like, yeah, a lot of that happens. Oh, like, every minute, every second. Like, there's a lot of times when people say, like, man, that must be great. You know, you're on top of move. First of all, we're not. I'm never done. And the other thing is, is something is always happening behind the scenes. You're always being undervalued, overlooked, scoffed at,

[Christy Primer]

mocked, mocked compared to chats about you. I mean, bring it on.

[Sean]

Like, crazy stuff, right?

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

But it's also, like, okay, like you said, you know, I have to pay attention to what circle I'm placing myself in or what I'm allowing in. And every single time, I can go back and I can go. That was my part in it. Like that, you know, that was my part. I should have exited this community in this way instead of just like, dude, I'm just going to roll out. Yeah, and you should be able to do that, by the way. You should never be gaslighted for not sticking with someone's community. It's like, if someone left my 45 community. Cool.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah. It should never be an issue.

[Sean]

It shouldn't be. Right. But people take that really seriously because

[Christy Primer]

they need to heal. They have a lot of work to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll say that.

[Sean]

But I just. I just think it's. It's an interesting, you know, this industry, it can be very dirty. You know, whether it's, you know, you know, the podcast, tv, pr, like, that whole game, like, everything is the modeling

[Christy Primer]

industry that I'm in. That's insane.

[Sean]

That's insane. Oh, I modeled recently.

[Christy Primer]

I saw that. You look good.

[Sean]

Isn't that crazy?

[Christy Primer]

Oh, my God.

[Sean]

I know. We're gonna do it again. We're gonna do it again in the fall. But, like. And it's funny, but my daughters, they. They want to be in fashion. They want to have their own company. They want to move to Paris, and so I better haul ass. I mean, because they're, you know, seven and nine. Like, my goal by then is to be able to fund it well.

[Christy Primer]

And you're showing them through your everyday life that they can achieve their dreams.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

So come on, Dad.

[Sean]

I mean, yeah, I got to. I got to get on it.

[Christy Primer]

Right?

[Sean]

But it's such a beautiful experience at the same time because the more you learn, the more, you know, it's like you can navigate things much easier. Right? It's like, there's the problem. I know I can find that solution over here. And then you go get it, and then you implement it. And then you just. You're able to grow in ways that never thought was possible. Like, I remember in 2024, we hit a million listens. Wow. For the first time.

[Christy Primer]

Amazing.

[Sean]

And it took us until November, you know, November to do it. And I remember once we hit it, I was like, oh, yeah, I did a post. Right. Million.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Because I thought it was a lot. And now what do you think it's not? Well, even just if you look at, like, you know, I mean, again, at that point, I wasn't playing the comparison game.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

For us getting to a million, that's huge. For annually, that was big. You know, and so that was 2024. And I remember once we hit it, I was super excited, and I did the post, and it was like, all that dopamine. Next day, I was so freaking depressed because then I. Because I. You know why? Because the fun part was the chase.

[Christy Primer]

Yes. The thrill of it.

[Sean]

Once you learn to stay in the chase, celebrate your wins, but stay in that hunt, because that's where you're built. And so in 2025, we did close to 9 mil. This year, we're pacing 12 and a half to 13 mil.

[Christy Primer]

That's amazing.

[Sean]

There's some. There's some shows that do 13 mil a month. And that's okay. Yeah, it's okay. I think, too.

[Christy Primer]

One thing I just. I want to highlight everyone I've shared your podcast with. It's the realness of this, you know, and. And coming from trauma counselor background to going back into the modeling, the media industry, and even as an author, there's so many people that are, like, forgetting what it actually took to get there.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

And forgetting that they can shift and change and be proud of every single milestone.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

You know.

[Sean]

You know, I love that. And thank you. Because, you know, Dan tells, like, look at this.

[Christy Primer]

This is amazing.

[Sean]

Grateful.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Right? Super grateful.

[Christy Primer]

Well, and you're helping people.

[Sean]

I hope so. That's the goal. That's.

[Christy Primer]

That. That's.

[Sean]

That's the purpose behind this. Right. And I think that's why I've been able to stay kind of where you're at. It's like whenever you share the show, if someone listens to it or sits down in that chair for the first time.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Like, your experience today is going to be light years different than it was four years ago.

[Christy Primer]

Right.

[Sean]

But it's like when people come and they sit down in that chair for the first time and we have this conversation, they're like, what just happened? Like, I've been on big. That was My favorite thing I've ever done is because we have the real conversation and we get down to the root of the human experience.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

And that's what is needed. I don't care.

[Christy Primer]

Oh, desperately.

[Sean]

I mean, I don't care what country you live in. We have forgotten to love one another.

[Christy Primer]

I'm only giggling because our country, Canada really needs a lot of help.

[Sean]

Well, walk me through that though, actually. I mean, because that's interesting to me because from what I know of Canada, it's beautiful country. It's the exact opposite. Like so. I mean, because it was. I think this is a. I think America is beautiful.

[Christy Primer]

I love America.

[Sean]

I love my country. But it's a cesspool right now.

[Christy Primer]

Well, times that by 10 or maybe a hundred. And that's Canada. It's, you know, it's. I always bite my tongue because I come from a military family background and I'm, I've been a. I'm a proud Floridian for six to seven months of a year.

[Sean]

Yeah, you're snowbird. That's what you are.

[Christy Primer]

I'm a snowbird, yeah. And for 16 years, you know, I've been coming to Florida and our country in Canada. I live in Ontario, but it's just gone to the shambles. I mean, it's, it's hard to explain, but the racism is at an all time high. I'm not even kidding. I live like three hours west of Toronto and it's insane. Stabbings every day, Shootings every day. And this, this is like stuff that never happened. Like, we just had our massive school shooting out in British Columbia. The first school shooting in 40 years. And people are still saying that everything's going tickety boo and that, you know, things don't need tweaking. I'm like, no, we have a problem. We have a problem.

[Sean]

You know, it's funny. Not funny, but it, what, what to me is comical is that we don't get that stuff here. We don't hear the news in Canada, really. Right. We hear what the media outlets want us to hear.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Right. And so we don't get that worldly news. My wife grew up in Ecuador.

[Christy Primer]

Oh, wow.

[Sean]

Yeah, she, you know, that is awesome.

[Christy Primer]

I didn't know that.

[Sean]

Yeah, well, she was born in Puerto Rico.

[Christy Primer]

I knew that, but I didn't know she grew up in Ecuador.

[Sean]

And then I think at 3, I mean, they're Ecuadorian, right? Like 100 Ecuadorian. Her dad was in Puerto Rico working. He was an executive for, I think Citibank.

[Christy Primer]

Okay.

[Sean]

And then they Ended up moving back to Ecuador when she was 2 or 3. My whole point is, is that when they would watch the news, they would actually get a neutral reporting of the news from worldwide.

[Christy Primer]

Okay.

[Sean]

That doesn't happen here necessarily anymore. You might get international news, but it's whatever that outlet believes the slant is. And I don't think that's real reporting.

[Christy Primer]

No.

[Sean]

And it's kind of. It's kind of messed up. And that's what drives the engine of racism.

[Christy Primer]

Yep.

[Sean]

To, you know, dividing countries. Absolutely.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah. And Canada actually put a ban. We can't access certain media anymore.

[Sean]

What can't you access there?

[Christy Primer]

Like, certain news outlets we can't access as soon as we come to. Well, what I love about coming to America is I get American Netflix. It's way better than the Canadian Netflix. That's true. Oh, wait, we have to wait months, sometimes years for what you guys get.

[Sean]

American Netflix. Here is fire.

[Christy Primer]

I bookmark everything I want to watch as soon as I get to the States. But, yeah, there's just certain bands, and I think people are afraid to have conversations. And, you know, one of the reasons I get asked all the time, why do you go to the States so much? And I say, because I love it. The diversity. Everybody. Everybody matters. Like, and. And a lot of Americans I talk to don't always feel that. But from an outsider coming in, that's what I see. That's how I see it.

[Sean]

That's interesting, because, like I said, I was like, wait, are you sure? Because that's what I heard. I hear the opposite about Canada, but we don't. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, but. But again, I'm gonna take your word for it.

[Christy Primer]

Obviously, I trust there'll be Canadian listeners that will say, no, she's not telling the truth, but I am. And sometimes the truth's hard, but.

[Sean]

But the truth is different for everybody.

[Christy Primer]

Right.

[Sean]

Because they may not see it.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah. And they may not be in the tax bracket. I am. And my money going to things that I don't support and believe in can be very frustrating.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah.

[Christy Primer]

And you know that.

[Sean]

I do know that. So I know that's. Being in a certain tax bracket sucks.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

You think it's cool. And you're like, oh, I owe that.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Like, that's not fun.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

It's like, damn, I missed the W2s, where it's just both.

[Christy Primer]

I get dinged by both because as a property owner in the States and then work and stuff, I always claim my. You know, my accountant does it. I don't do it. But anyways, it's like a double whammy. But, you know, I wouldn't change it for the world. I. I loved to come. I love to go home. Our weather is beautiful in the summer, but the palm trees, it's the palm trees for me.

[Sean]

So you're in Clearwater, right?

[Christy Primer]

Winter Haven.

[Sean]

Winter Haven. Oh, God, Winter Haven's beautiful.

[Christy Primer]

Winter Haven. Yeah.

[Sean]

Holy county. Whole county, baby. So it's funny because when you, when you texted me the other day, or when we were going back on message, back and forth on messages, trying to figure out what day, you're like, no, because I have this and it's three hour drive. I'm like, Clearwater. I'm like, oh, she must be in Orlando. But Winter Haven, that's beautiful. Yeah, beautiful.

[Christy Primer]

I love it.

[Sean]

Pretty cool, huh? Yeah, pretty cool.

[Christy Primer]

It's 16 years. We've seen a lot of development, but I just love it. It's. It's like, well, it is home. It's home for us, you know, seven months of the year, it's home.

[Sean]

What's home? I mean, like, it's, it's. That's the majority of the year. Yeah, that's.

[Christy Primer]

You know, I wish it was more sometimes. And we're working on that.

[Sean]

Well, yeah, you'll be able to figure that out. Yeah, eventually. Be here full time.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah, it's right here. So, you know, the more I see it in my mind, it's eventually just. It's my reality.

[Sean]

Well, that's it.

[Christy Primer]

Right.

[Sean]

And you, you see it and then you feel it emotionally. Right. And.

[Christy Primer]

And that's when feeling it.

[Sean]

That's.

[Christy Primer]

Sorry to cut you off.

[Sean]

No, no, go. Because that's the thing that is missing. A lot of people talking about visualization,

[Christy Primer]

the secret, they miss that if you can't feel what you'll feel like in that situation, you're never gonna have it.

[Sean]

Never.

[Christy Primer]

It's just, you know, I've experienced it firsthand, so I know it's. It's just the way it is because

[Sean]

your mind thinks it can't achieve it, if that. You saw what I put out today, right?

[Christy Primer]

No, I haven't.

[Sean]

Oh, my God. So two days ago, my friend David Waldy came into town. We did an episode in person. We did an episode probably two years ago.

[Christy Primer]

Okay.

[Sean]

But I've known him for about three, three and a half years, and he pulled out his note book, his like little remarkable notebook. Right?

[Christy Primer]

Okay.

[Sean]

Where you can save all the notes to the cloud. It's all that kind of stuff, you know? And he's like, hey, do you remember the conversation we had? Our very first conversation we ever had? I'm like, no.

[Christy Primer]

And he had it.

[Sean]

He had the notes.

[Christy Primer]

Wow.

[Sean]

And he. And. And we did this exercise. You know, basically rating my happiness on a scale of 1 to 100. I scored a 38.

[Christy Primer]

Oh, wow.

[Sean]

I was just. It was the hardest point that I feel I've had in probably, you know, 10, 20 years. And, you know, there was no joy. I wasn't happy. I didn't feel. I was, you know, close with God. And I felt like my marriage was fine, like neither one of us wanted out. But I just, like, I don't feel as connected as I should. I. I want to be able to be more, you know, not again. I don't want people to think I wasn't connected to my wife.

[Christy Primer]

No, I get what you mean. Anyone just, like, can think, will understand.

[Sean]

It was. Well, who knows? The trolls out there. Oh, he hates his wife.

[Christy Primer]

They're so angry at themselves.

[Sean]

Yeah. They're cultural. Yeah. But. But I wanted all these different things. Like, financially, I was scared of losing everything. Yeah. And so I scored myself a 38 out of 4 out of 100 now, so. And I was very overweight.

[Christy Primer]

Right.

[Sean]

And the other exercise he had me do was close my eyes and think about, what does my ideal version of Sean look like?

[Christy Primer]

Okay.

[Sean]

What is he wearing? What is he doing? So I went on and said, you know, that version of me is wearing tight black jeans, a tight form fitting black shirt, and black and white shoes with red accents. And he's like, okay, do you remember what you said about your appearance? I said, yeah, I was. Was in great shape.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

You know, but she said something specifically. I was like, I don't. He's like, the vascularity in your arms that day. He's like, oh. And you also went and said, what type of car you drive? I'm like, okay, well, hit me with all this.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

He goes, you know, he hit me with the clothes. And he. He's like, look at your outfit. I had a tight black shirt on, short sleeve, tight black pants in the exact shoes.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

That I described. Which were all purchased after I forgot about that conversation. I was like, what the hell's going on? He goes, yeah. You said you were speak on stage. Top 20 show. It's where we're at. And he goes, is that your TRX out there? I go, it is. He goes, yeah, that's what you said you're gonna buy. Wow. And it's because I felt it yeah. You know, and I didn't know how

[Christy Primer]

you let yourself feel it.

[Sean]

Yeah, I mean, like, I, I'm a big feel person. People say, don't chase feelings.

[Christy Primer]

I love feelings.

[Sean]

I'm gonna chase the out of them.

[Christy Primer]

Same.

[Sean]

I want to cry, I want to laugh. I want, I want goosebumps everywhere. My kids always make fun of me in the truck. Always does the song. Come on. I'll say quiet. And then it's like, yeah. Oh, daddy's feeling it again. He's got the goosebumps.

[Christy Primer]

Shut up. Like, but they'll love that about you later.

[Sean]

Like, I, I mean, they love it, but they just, they tease me. But, but like, if you aren't chasing feelings, then you are not feeling anything. And how can you ever create something.

[Christy Primer]

Exactly. And even like, I just want to shift it to like, of course, marriage, family, and our appearance and all those things. But your business. Like, people would say to me, oh, you've got this TV show and you've got this and that, dah, dah, dah, dah. And I'm like, yeah, but I could do all of that and still not be feeling, you know, the best or into the next step of my vision, because I have a big vision for my life. And obviously you do too. And a lot of our listeners do, right? The people listening right now, they all, they're like, yeah, they get it. But it's like when people can step back and say, okay, this hasn't been working for me, so maybe these feeling things aren't so crazy.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

And woo, woo. Maybe it is the secret ingredient in this recipe of creating my dream life.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

Imagine.

[Sean]

I mean, imagine that. Right? But I mean, it's, it's crazy because like I, at a younger age, I never under. I mean, I didn't understand it. I made fun of it because our coaches would put us in right field. You'd have your bat in your hand, lay down. I'm like, why am I laying down with my bat? Close your eyes. Envision the pitch, Envision the count. Are there runners on base? What's the situation? A lot of times they give us the situations. Runners are on second base. What are you looking for? Yeah, and we have to visualize it. I was like, man, this is the dumbest ever until I got into a game. And I'm like, oh, this already happened.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah. And then recall.

[Sean]

Yeah. I was like, oh, wait, no, the situation is runner on second, there's nobody out. I'm not bunting because maybe the guy behind me doesn't have a Strong. A strong bat. So I'm looking for something to go the other way with. So I'm looking at her third. I'm talking baseball.

[Christy Primer]

I love it. Oh, I played baseball for 18 years.

[Sean]

Pitcher.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

So it's like, it's. It sounds silly until you do it. It Faithfully.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah. That's the key word, though.

[Sean]

Faithfully. And, and, and, and this is what people don't understand. People understand. They go, okay, faithfully means consistently. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Faithfully, meaning you're doing it and you have the utmost faith that it's going to work without any evidence of it being true.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah. And, you know, and, oh, that talking with someone and they had said to me, faith is also preparation. So, yes, doing the work and the faith part of believing and feeling it, but being prepared so you can be that person that has the things you want to have and sustain it, which you had said earlier.

[Sean]

I want you to go back, I want you to repeat, be the what?

[Christy Primer]

The person with faith in preparation. So you.

[Sean]

Person.

[Christy Primer]

Be the person who has the things that you want and sustain it.

[Sean]

You know the reason I want you to repeat that. Be the person. Yeah. Who would have all those things.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Is because you ain't going to get anything that you want until you become that woman, that man, that, that person.

[Christy Primer]

I've learned that the hard way many times, Sean. You have to be her. I have to be her to have what I want.

[Sean]

The only way that I'll tell you, everybody in this room that I hacked the system on because I wasn't him. Yeah. Is when I met my wife, the guy wasn't the person that should have even attracted at that point, her. Now Dan's probably sitting over there. This is because you've always been a great dude. You've always been a great dad. You've always been someone that has a lot of value. But. But, like, it would make sense now, but she saw something in me. Right. There was those elements. Right. But like, when we talk about, you know, a lot of times people say, like, I, I don't have the relationships I want or I can't get the. The girl or the man that I want. So many people are looking at what they want in somebody but unwilling to look at who do I need to become to attract that.

[Christy Primer]

That's right. So quick, funny story. When I met my husband, I had a checklist of everything I wanted.

[Sean]

Did you literally have it written down?

[Christy Primer]

I did. He's here. He can attest when he. When I finally was out at the

[Sean]

dinner and checking that coffee.

[Christy Primer]

He took almost three months to get me to even have a coffee with him because he wasn't my type. I mean, he's gorgeous. Brown eyes, tall, you know, all these.

[Sean]

Let me see those beautiful browns he does. Sexy, man.

[Christy Primer]

And I mean, you know, there was that. But I had it in my head. I had, like, all. All these goals and all these things, and I had been through such heartache and such horrible, horrible relationships that I'd made this big checklist. And so when I finally met him for coffee, I said, here's my checklist. This is everything that I'm looking for. And I want you to go home and make a checklist. And I know it sounds so weird. I mean, we've been. This is our 20 year of marriage

[Sean]

this year, business transaction.

[Christy Primer]

But you know, Sean, you don't remind me of. I'm a little over the top.

[Sean]

Hey, it's okay. You've. I mean, listen, I love that about you, but it reminded me the other day when I was on this software program. I was, okay, do I buy the. Do I buy the basic or do I. The. The professional? And it's like, well, there's a checklist. Like, no, I. I need all that. Like, I have it written down here. I got it. That's so funny, dude.

[Christy Primer]

And you know what? The one thing was on the checklist that he wasn't a jock. And then I talked with my parents and my dad, who's been gone. This is 12 years now. But my dad said to me, well, how's that jock thing been working out for you, young lady? And I said, oh, you know, yeah, they're so dreamy. And, I mean, he's an artist. He's a brilliant artist. He was a high school teacher, very smart man. And I thought about it, and he. We reconnected and I said, you know, I figured I'd never hear from you. I brought a checklist, you know. He was like, no, that actually was so impressive that you knew what you wanted and what your focus was and what your boundaries were, and I have mine, and you fit all of them, and we've been together ever since.

[Sean]

That's so awesome. Good for you guys.

[Christy Primer]

It's so weird. Our son's always like, oh, my gosh.

[Sean]

How is he doing?

[Christy Primer]

He's doing amazing. Well, he just had knee surgery. Third knee surgery.

[Sean]

Or did he.

[Christy Primer]

But he's gearing up for baseball season. Okay. So he's healing.

[Sean]

That's great.

[Christy Primer]

He's getting married in August.

[Sean]

I did know That I didn't know he was engaged.

[Christy Primer]

He's, he's doing amazing. He's the first aircraft mechanic engineer with ERBS palsy in North America. I don't know if you knew that. Did you know my son had erv's palsy caused at birth? Oh, okay. Well, that's a whole other.

[Sean]

I don't even know what it is.

[Christy Primer]

It sounds crazy. Caused from brachial plexus injuries during delivery. And so because of the tears and damage to the brachial plexus, it affects the hand all through the arm. So he's, he's got a bit of a palsy. He can't lift his arm up.

[Sean]

No way.

[Christy Primer]

But he's an incredible. He's, he's doing everything that the doctor said he couldn't do because that is strong, how strong my faith is and seeing my son doing these things. So when I'm telling your listeners about. See yourself, do it, feel into it. I did that over my baby. Like, it's, it's mind blowing and it's kooky, but it's true.

[Sean]

You know, it's. It's so funny because, you know, over the last couple days, you know, I told my wife and I had our wedding anniversary.

[Christy Primer]

Right. Congratulations.

[Sean]

Right. Thank you. We were at dinner and I told her about my conversation with David Waldy that day and about everything three years ago that I've freaking created. Yeah. And she goes, it's pretty cool. And. And then I said, you know, I'm gonna take Friday to myself. Oh, well, maybe you can do. No, no, no, no, no. Let me, let me explain to you what I mean by myself. No. Like, no, I'm not doing anything until you guys get home. But like, for me, you know, Friday is going to be, you know, maybe I go, I'm gonna go to workout, obviously, but maybe go get a massage. But then you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna connect and do that exercise again because it's clear to me that I need to re up that. And again, it's not that I don't have my targets, but I haven't sat with them.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah, exactly.

[Sean]

I want to sit with them again. And the reason why I want to stay on this topic and I'm bringing up this visualization because there's people listening right now that may not really understand what the hell we're even talking about. And I, and, and I appreciate it. Right. Because not everybody's a visionary. Not everybody's a manifesting generator. Okay. They may want to be but they don't understand how to do it. And so, you know, back in. What. What was it, 2,000, maybe six, seven? When the secret came out, like, right

[Christy Primer]

there in that era. Right, yeah. Rhonda, Bernie.

[Sean]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And. And that came out, and everybody was making vision boards, which. Which I think are a very, very effective strategy if you do it the right way.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah, right.

[Sean]

And. And for the audience. I'm gonna get to the right way in a bit, but, you know, all these different things that you want in your life. But there was a. There was a massive component missing to the secret because I fell into it and everybody else that I knew fell into it. So everybody was thinking about what they want put on the movie screen of your mind. Movie screen of your mind. Movie screen of your mind. I want this car. Cool. I can see it. Yeah, that's it. You just visualize this car. And they go. And then people are like, oh, yeah, then a Ferrari shows up on my driveway. Yeah, hold on.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

I wish that Ferrari may have showed up at the driveway 10, 13 years later after they executed the plan.

[Christy Primer]

Right.

[Sean]

And so when I say vision boards and the law of attraction and visualization done the right way, it's really, truly getting quiet and fighting through the noise in your mind and seeing it. And again, like I said before, feeling it and then letting it go.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Because you can't focus on it.

[Christy Primer]

No. I love that you're gonna do that for yourself. I'm actually gonna check in with you in a week and just see how that week go, how that whole process goes. But you just said something like feeling it and. And letting it go. And one thing I know for myself and. And thou. I've worked with thousands of women and men. I've had the privilege of working with thousands of people throughout my career. And the one thing that's always been common is not letting it go. Right. You fixate. Why isn't it hurt? Why isn't it here? Well, she got it. He got it. Come on. How come it's. It's not here and, you know, like, my car I rolled up in today, my dream car.

[Sean]

Beautiful vehicle. Thank you, by the way.

[Christy Primer]

Thank you.

[Sean]

I knew that. I knew you guys were in that

[Christy Primer]

young, young version of me would never have been able to afford something like that. So it's. It's just. I'm so proud of being able to afford it on my own. But that was like three, four years in the making. And I had on my screensaver of my phone, you know, my husband's here. He can attest to this. I had this car and it was a cla. Okay. So anyways, three, four years go by. Finally I'm like, you know What? I'm turning 40. I'm going to buy myself this car, go test drive the cla. I'm like, I love it, I love it, I love it. My husband goes, no, look at that car over there. And I said, oh, that's like $50,000 more.

[Sean]

That's the one.

[Christy Primer]

He's like, well, just test drive it. You know, sometimes my husband influenced me. No wonder. You do really bad things and they're amazing.

[Sean]

Anyway, long story short, 50 grand more, that's the car you want.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah. Long story short, I test drove it and I looked at him and I was like, hot damn. Yeah, this is my car. So we roll back up to the dealership, I said, I'm gonna put this amount down and finance the rest. And toodaloo.

[Sean]

Yeah, it's badass. Have you ever.

[Christy Primer]

But that was years. My point is that took years for me to actually have it in my, in my laneway.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

You know, driveway, I guess you'll say.

[Sean]

Yeah, they call laneways up. That's what we call it, Laneways. Really interesting.

[Christy Primer]

I know. And everyone looks at me. I live in a small town in Ontario. But to, to your point, like, it takes time.

[Sean]

Yeah, it sure does. It's funny because have you ever looked. Have you ever thought about everything when you were a kid? Right. And all the dreams and aspirations you had, whether they worked out or not, or what you wanted in a partner, obviously, and what you wanted out of life? Have you ever done a full, like, retroactive audit? Like, did I actually attract what I want?

[Christy Primer]

I've done that numerous times. Again, I'm. I'm a very big journaler and self reflective. I'm very much an introvert, believe it or not. I need a lot of alone time. I recharge alone. I can get lost in books, writing. I. I do that a lot. Wow. More people never guess that about me because when I'm on, I'm on.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

But I'm very reflective.

[Sean]

Okay.

[Christy Primer]

And I actually just did that half a year ago. A little more. And that's when I said to myself, come on, girl, get your together.

[Sean]

I love it.

[Christy Primer]

Like, take accountability.

[Sean]

It's so funny because all the good things and all the bad things I attracted into my life.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah, I've attracted some bad things.

[Sean]

I've attracted some stuff. I remember in 0506 worrying about losing everything because the real estate Bubble. And I was in mortgages.

[Christy Primer]

Yep.

[Sean]

And then I did. And then I look back, like, you know, what was the one thing that I wanted, right? If I had a son, I was like, my first child's gonna be a son. It's gonna be my boy. And my mom's. My mom and my grandma and her brother and her dad, they were in a car accident when she was 6.

[Christy Primer]

Oh, wow.

[Sean]

My mom and my grandma lived. My would be uncle and grandfather both died.

[Christy Primer]

Oh, wow. I'm so sorry.

[Sean]

Yeah, it's crazy, right? Oh, it's real heavy. But my grandfather, his name was Bobby Lee Duster.

[Christy Primer]

Okay.

[Sean]

And he was a baseball player. He was a catcher, and he was born in 1932. My baseball number was 32. Had no idea. Completely unrelated.

[Christy Primer]

You didn't know?

[Sean]

Had no freaking clue. Wow. I can tell you that story later, too. But it. But. But my point is, is, like, I remember looking at this picture at my. I think my mom had her. My grandma had it. I can't remember which. But it was me feeding a squirrel. And I was dressed, like, weird. I mean, my. I mean, my mom dressed me weird when I was a kid. I'm like. Like, that outfit was freaking weird. I look like a complete dork. I'm like, I got sliced.

[Christy Primer]

I had a mushroom cut.

[Sean]

Okay, no, dude, I had a mullet. And then the Vanilla Ice lines.

[Christy Primer]

But that was ball players and kids.

[Sean]

Such a g. It's back now. I mean, Jamie upstairs has a freaking mullet. I mean, it's like. It's like a cool thing.

[Christy Primer]

My son has a mullet.

[Sean]

See?

[Christy Primer]

Baseball hair. He says, yes, it's.

[Sean]

Well, it's a base. It's a. It's called a baseball cut now. Yeah. I try to get Bob. My son, to do it. I'm like, dude, get a mullet, bro. He's like. He goes, no. I'm like, dude, it's a baseball cut. I was like, what about Bryce Harper cut? He's like, no. I'm like, like, dude, this is. But anyway. But it's so funny because I was looking at. I'm like, why am I dressed like that? And, like, why is it black and white? They're like, because it's not you.

[Christy Primer]

Wow.

[Sean]

I'm like, yeah, that is me. They're like, no, that's your grandpa. And so when.

[Christy Primer]

That gave me truth bumps.

[Sean]

Yeah, it's crazy. And, like, I always wanted to be a third baseman or a pitcher. Well, when I turned 11, my dad's like, the way your body is structured and the kind of situation you have going on. You have a great arm, but you're going to be a catcher. And I didn't want to do it. Well, he was a catcher.

[Christy Primer]

Okay. Right.

[Sean]

And so into a point where in junior college, his friends would come watch me because they were still around, and they said we could not tell the difference who was playing.

[Christy Primer]

Wow.

[Sean]

It's the same dude. Right? My whole point of this is that's the connection with everything. Right. And that day that they both perished, that name died. The Dahster name died.

[Christy Primer]

Wow.

[Sean]

Right. So I said, when I have a son, I'm naming him Boom Boom Boom. And anybody that I dated and got serious with, they had to be okay with that. And then my first child was a boy. I named him Boom Boom.

[Christy Primer]

I love it.

[Sean]

And I remember always wanting a Latin woman.

[Christy Primer]

Check, check. You had a checklist. You just didn't know it.

[Sean]

Just didn't know it.

[Christy Primer]

Right.

[Sean]

Because you think of these things, and the whole. The whole. The whole point of the. Of the rant is we're always manifesting.

[Christy Primer]

Absolutely. Always, Always.

[Sean]

This is part of who we are,

[Christy Primer]

whether we're conscious of it or not.

[Sean]

It's part of who we are.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

You know, you can say universe, you know, God, I believe God and the universe. Same dude. Like, for me, personally, it's like the same. My. You know, I'm. I. I believe in Christ, and, like, he's the universe. He's the creator of everything. It's everything.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah. It's infinite intelligence everywhere.

[Sean]

And so I just always like to tell people is like, you don't believe in this? Like, no. I go, have you ever, like, thought of something, like, really bad and then it happened?

[Christy Primer]

Like.

[Sean]

Yeah. I go, that's attracting. Like, we're magnets.

[Christy Primer]

Yes.

[Sean]

And, you know, it's so important to have the things that you want to create the top of your mind all the time. But the biggest component is like. Like I said earlier, like, you reiterate, is release it.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah. Go do something.

[Sean]

Go do something. Right.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Think about it. Feel it. Know what you have to do, right?

[Christy Primer]

Of course.

[Sean]

Like, who do I have to become? Like, we've. We've been on this. It's no question that me and you get on this freaking topic, dude. Jesus. But. But it's like, you know, you don't have to think about the complete. How.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

And I think that's where people get stuck.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Because it's like, well, how do I do this?

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Sean, how do I grow a show? I don't know. Yeah. But what do you mean you don't know? I'm like, I don't know. I'm not you. Like, yeah, I know how I did it. Yeah, you might be way better than

[Christy Primer]

me, but how you did it probably wouldn't work for someone else because it's not a one size fits all.

[Sean]

Yeah, exactly. So it's like, you know, think about the things that you want to create in your life and live a good life and. And be responsible, but also, like, dive into the hard, because that's what makes us.

[Christy Primer]

Yep. And stop avoiding it, you know, like, how. How old do people have to get before they realize, wait a minute. Maybe if I take radical responsibility for myself, every faucet of my life will improve.

[Sean]

Yeah. Every single one.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah, every. But.

[Sean]

But that's the point, right? It's like, when I decided to go all in on me, I became a better husband. I came a better father. Now I have my moments.

[Christy Primer]

We all do.

[Sean]

I had one on Sunday.

[Christy Primer]

We all do.

[Sean]

Big one, Right.

[Christy Primer]

I may have one on the drive here. I'm a kid.

[Sean]

I mean, hey, you recovered quickly. That's good. And she. He's over there hiding in a corner, sadly. She's gonna beat me.

[Christy Primer]

Well, you know, my AMG goes fast. I gotta place them a little bit here.

[Sean]

Yeah, but I mean, like, look, it's all about, I guess, holding yourself, like I said, accountable for those moments and, like, really communicating why you feel you reacted that way. But again, we don't want to react. We want to be able to respond.

[Christy Primer]

Yes.

[Sean]

Then I heard the other day that if you get. I hate this word triggered, but if something comes up, it's a 90 second thing. Yeah. Hold on for 90 seconds. And if you don't freak out in the first 90 seconds, the odds of you freaking out or saying something stupid and damaging a relationship with a loved one is very, very slim. Yeah, 90 seconds.

[Christy Primer]

You know, I love that you're sharing that. And something I just want to add to that. I used to say this. I did a lot of couples counseling as well as individual counseling, and I specialize in trauma, so primarily sexual and domestic violence, trafficking, human trafficking. And I would say to my clients, I didn't ever discredit them, but I would say to them, how is the best way you can empower yourself in the moment when you feel triggered? Because are you actually triggered or are you anticipating the trigger? And they would look at me, and some people were, like, open to it and be like, wow, I never thought of that. And other people would be closed off, arms crossed, like, no, I'm triggered because he and she did this. And I would say to them, just look at it with an open mind. Explore it. Because you're giving people or situations power over you, and it's not to minimize what people have gone through, because triggers aren't just for trauma. You can be triggered when someone cuts you off in traffic and gives you the finger when you're like, dude, you're the one that cut me off. But I mean, like, owning it. And then I like that the 92nd. Because it's like, I know people that walk around all day. Triggered all day. That's their identity. It's their identity.

[Sean]

Good God.

[Christy Primer]

And they don't see it, you know? And I'm like, the common denominator might

[Sean]

be you, you, you.

[Christy Primer]

You know, you.

[Sean]

That's it. We always bring ourselves to the party, right? It's like I make a joke all the time, right? It's like, you know, my two oldest from a, you know, previous marriage. And most people know that.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

But, you know, they. Jackie's been in their life since she.

[Christy Primer]

They were little.

[Sean]

A little. Little. Little.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Right. But my family dynamic is for us. And you know what? Like, it is what it is. And I forgot I was going with it.

[Christy Primer]

Triggered. People were triggered.

[Sean]

We're talking about triggers, weren't we?

[Christy Primer]

Yeah, we're talking about triggers.

[Sean]

Son of a Man, I need an Adderall. I can't remember where I was going, man.

[Christy Primer]

We're talking about triggers. You're too old. Us are from your. Your previous relationship.

[Sean]

Thank you. Common denominator, right? So I have this joke where everybody says, oh, my God, your children are so beautiful. I go, one. Common denominator.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

This because all three for me.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

It's a joke. So common denominator.

[Christy Primer]

I. I love it. Because Anthony adopted my son. So I was married for a very short time in a horrible situation, long enough to have my son and get out is what I say. And he adopted my son. He's raised my son. He's the only father my son is known, and we will go places. And my son is the male version of me. Okay? He's 6 foot 2. He's taller than me, but he. He's the male version of me. And people say, oh, man, you look like your dad. And it used to burn me so bad. I'm like, genetic queen here.

[Sean]

Yeah. I was like, hi.

[Christy Primer]

But then I realized, no, this is amazing for my son because it's so inclusive, and he doesn't have to, like, barf his story on everyone. Because people want to always know, like, the nitty gritty when it's not their business.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

And so I, you know, I'd be like, oh, yeah. And Anthony would just glow, right. And he would say things. Not the common denominator, but he would say things. And I thought, wow. But you just made me think of that. And that is hilarious, but true.

[Sean]

What's even funnier is people will go to my wife and when my oldest and my middle. So my old. My son and then my middle daughter. Yeah. When they're all three sitting. Oh, my God. They'll go to her and go, they look so much like you. I'm like. And then. And then Jackie goes, well, ours that we have together looks nothing like me. Looks just like her dad.

[Christy Primer]

Hilarious.

[Sean]

She goes, at least I got two of them that look like. But I mean, no. I mean, all the kids resemble each other. And I think what the. What the great thing is. And by the way, like, I want to edify you, because that. That isn't easy, man. That isn't maybe easy for you, but there's a lot of people out there that don't do those things, and that's not my problem. So that's a real man.

[Christy Primer]

Absolutely.

[Sean]

And I love that. And, you know, but, you know, it's so important because, you know, you know, the whole genetic thing, the blood. And there's a lot of blood relatives that I don't speak to.

[Christy Primer]

Oh, amen.

[Sean]

You know what I mean? But I. I think what being a true parent is. Is not about who created that child. No. It's about who really parents and. And cares for that child.

[Christy Primer]

Loves and disciplines and guides and comforts and provides.

[Sean]

Yeah. It's crazy.

[Christy Primer]

And. And, you know, we had a clean break. I know a lot of people listening might be in a different situation, but I didn't. I didn't have child support. I didn't have anything. I just had a clean break. Paid a lot of money to have a clean break.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

And, you know, it's. It's been like. It's my dream family. I always only wanted one child. I always wanted a son. I always wanted him to be an athlete.

[Sean]

That's so crazy.

[Christy Primer]

Back to the athlete, because you learn so much about yourself through sports. But I always wanted to have, like, nice home, nice lifestyle, like, and have my career and. And Anthony fully supported that, you know? So it's. It's been amazing. And having an adult child is glorious. Well, I have serious.

[Sean]

I have two adult childs. One. One's a nine year old daughter and the other one's a seven year old.

[Christy Primer]

Now I'm going on what, 17.

[Sean]

Dude.

[Christy Primer]

I have a nine year old niece and she's, she is going to give my brother in law some gray hair.

[Sean]

It's. It's so crazy because, you know, I have both, I have boy and a girl. Yeah. And my love for my son is so different than the love for my daughters.

[Christy Primer]

Wow.

[Sean]

It's just as powerful. Of course it's different because like, and Dan knows this. It's like he's got a son and a daughter. Yeah. It's your boy's, your boy, your daughters. I will bury somebody like with her, with them. Right. But it's like, but it's just such a different, it's a different thing being a girl dad.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

It's special. But. Oh my God. You want to talk about frustrating? You're lucky, bro. You're lucky you don't have a daughter because they can, they can, they can get you to be the most ghetto part of you. I mean, like, I have some ghetto in me. I grew up in the ghetto, California.

[Christy Primer]

Like, I have some gangster.

[Sean]

Yeah, I got some gangster. I don't look like it, but I got some inner games.

[Christy Primer]

My son tells me I have fafo. What does that.

[Sean]

Around and find out.

[Christy Primer]

Around and find out.

[Sean]

Yep, yep.

[Christy Primer]

You know?

[Sean]

Yep. Well, you know, my son and my in. My wife doesn't like this, but my son's 12. He's almost 13 years old. He'd be 13 this year. Yeah. I was listening to hip hop, then I turned out.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

All right.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah, I think so.

[Sean]

And so like when it's me and him and we're going to baseball or going coming home for baseball or doing whatever we're doing, going for a ride, he gets to listen to unedited Eminem and unedited Dre and Pac and all that. Because I want him to know that. Right.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

But also want him to have that fafo energy too, to where he has this little bit of flavor to him. But like, but like, my wife does not like the fact that.

[Christy Primer]

I'm sure she doesn't.

[Sean]

Yeah, she doesn't like it.

[Christy Primer]

I see your point.

[Sean]

Yeah. 1,000%. She is correct. I am wrong. But that's the reality. That's what we do. But you know, those are fun moments, man. Because, you know, when I, when he gets in the truck, he's like, hey, can we, can we listen to Slim Shady? Like, or like the actual song, Slim Shady? I'm like, what do you mean Eminem? He's like, no, the song. Slim Shady? He's like. I'm like, okay. He's like, forgot about Dre. I'm like, never have, never will. He's like, no, the song. Can you play it? I'm like, it's my guy, man.

[Christy Primer]

I. I actually raised my son listening to those kinds of things. And he will remember now and he'll tell stories. I expose him to all kinds of genres of music, but he will be like, oh, Mom, I never even realized I was in the car seat. Like, we were bad.

[Sean]

Yeah. Well, I remember looking back at it, my mom was in town, like, two, three weeks ago. We were all hanging out, and I looked at her. I'm like, you're a really questionable mom. And she goes, what? I go, mom, I was a junior in high school, and we were watching Friday together. She goes, yeah, it's not. Probably not the best thing. It was about smoking weed and selling weed and, you know, fighting and killing. It was like. But that. But. But again, like. Because I think, you know, back then, we could watch something. Yeah. And then completely disconnect it from consumers. It was like. It's a complete disconnection. From what? The life that I live. But. Good God. Oh, my. Oh, my. Wow. Dude, we're flying by.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah, we already had an hour.

[Sean]

We haven't even. I wanna. But. So let's shift.

[Christy Primer]

Okay.

[Sean]

All right. So I. I want you to walk us through how you just wrapped season six of Women who Lead.

[Christy Primer]

Yep.

[Sean]

How'd it go? Like, what were some of the interesting people you had on? And where are you going for season seven?

[Christy Primer]

Yeah. So. Good question. So season six was my best yet, because every season gets better. Of course, as you know, I had some amazing women on. Alicia, actually. Hardiman, she's just been nominated for. For the Top Canadian Woman Entrepreneur Award.

[Sean]

Wow.

[Christy Primer]

She was on season six. A couple other women. Tanya Bergen. She is a powerhouse. She works with a woman named Kathleen Cameron, who is really big in, like, under. Bob Proctor. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. Bob Proctor. Just so many women private chefs. Like, just women that are doing the dreams that were on their heart as little girls. And why that matters to me is because that's what I'm living out. All the things I said I wanted to do as a little girl that people had said, like, oh, you come from a broken home, or that'll never work for you. I'm doing it. So I'm like, yeah, underdogs always come out on top if they persist. But, yeah, I'VE had so many amazing guests and the whole dynamic of my show. Like, when I developed the show and pitched it to the network, I didn't. I had no idea that it would be this. And I'm so humbled, and I'm so grateful, and I feel like I'm just getting warmed up. So I'm thinking of season seven, and I'm thinking really big. Even bigger than what we've done, like, prime time big. And so I actually was just texting with my. One of my producers, and I was like, you know, we gotta chat. I got all these ideas. And so she literally was like, we love these ideas.

[Sean]

Prime times. That's. That's the brand, girl.

[Christy Primer]

It is.

[Sean]

It's that moonshot. You gotta. You gotta get it. Yeah. But it's crazy because it's like. I mean, four years ago, when we were, you know, when you came on my show. You're on season two.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah. Yeah. Wow.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

And you know what? Now, one thing that's really different, and this is just to help anyone listening if they have a show. One thing I've gotten really good at is partnering with different brands that I believe in and that I love. And so I get all my outfits sponsored so I have full wardrobes. I have a lot of wardrobes.

[Sean]

Well, we. We need to work on the. The wardrobe stuff.

[Christy Primer]

But I've learned how to leverage my talent.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

And the impact. I mean, it's all about impact. For me, that is, at the end of the day, what it's about. But there's been so much growth, and I think it's just taken a lot of leaning back and learning.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

And figuring it out as. As we've grown, you know.

[Sean]

Yeah. I mean, to your point, you know, like, when I rewind to four years ago, I remember, you know, having you on the show.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

And not that I don't look up to you now, because I don't want you to misconstrue that, because I do. Right. You know, but back then, I'm like, oh, my God, she's got a TV show. She's got two seasons in, like. And she's coming on my show, like, what? I don't even know what I'm gonna do. I don't even know what I'm gonna talk about. But it's crazy because, like, when you look back at all of it. Right. And everybody grows and everybody. You either rise to the occasion or you find something different to do. Right. Because how many people do you know in that time period that we knew

[Christy Primer]

Together that are doing nothing.

[Sean]

That they're not doing anything. That what they were doing back then.

[Christy Primer]

I'd say at least 75.

[Sean]

At least.

[Christy Primer]

Probably higher.

[Sean]

Yeah. It's like they don't even come across the.

[Christy Primer]

I don't even know what. I hope they're okay.

[Sean]

Yeah. I've been checking. Should probably check in on it.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

But no, it's like, I'll go back in. Like, if someone pops into my mind, I'll type their handle in.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

You know, I'm like, what are they doing? Okay. They're still doing. Cool. They're just not coming across things. So I. Like a couple things they start coming so I can support. Right. But. But it's just. It's crazy to me because this whole thing is kind of surreal. You know, the whole growth engine behind the show and the personal brand and, like, how it's gone is kind of really cool to look at from Sean four years ago, not now.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Because the Sean now doesn't get it. Yeah, but the. But the dude four years ago would literally kill and maim to be in this seat right now. And so, like, that's just kind of a point I wanted to bring up for the audience that is sitting there, and they may not have everything they want right now, because, trust me, I'm far away from where I want to be.

[Christy Primer]

Oh, same.

[Sean]

I'm not even sure. Not even close.

[Christy Primer]

Yep.

[Sean]

But, like, I've got to sit with the fact that we've grown it pretty damn good and pretty damn quick.

[Christy Primer]

Absolutely.

[Sean]

And it's so funny. I was talking to somebody the other day up in New York. We're going up there to potentially do a pretty big show with somebody on the third. I'm still waiting on details. Yeah, he's actually available, and he's available at this time. And I was talking to the studio owner, right? Like, hey, I'm gonna have the. This. This name on, and I'll tell you off air.

[Christy Primer]

Okay.

[Sean]

But I'm like, you got any other big names? And he's like, yeah, yeah, I got this person. This person. This person. What about this person? Do you want this person? I'm like. To the point where, like, he's telling me that he's friends with the person that wrote Rudy. The screen. The screen. Wow. And he lives in Naples, by the way.

[Christy Primer]

Really?

[Sean]

Yeah. I was like, yeah, he can come on anytime. Like, to think that I could have the guy that wrote Rudy sitting right. Right there.

[Christy Primer]

Right here.

[Sean]

But he said he asked me a question, and I paused. It's like, hey, let me ask you a question, dude. I'm like, what's up, man? He goes, I just looked you up on Apple. I was like, okay, so you do your top 25 out of every show in America. He's like, not categorically. I go, I'm aware. You're talking about out of all the genres, like, all the whatever. Yeah. He goes, how the hell did you do that in five years? It's like. I know. It took forever, huh?

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

He's like, that's fast.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Doesn't feel like it.

[Christy Primer]

No. It never does. To the person in it.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

Do you know what I mean?

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

That could be applicable to anything that people are building. It never feels like it for us.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

But it's. It's amazing.

[Sean]

So it's, you know, and. And then the other. The other question is, he's like, do you ever fall out of that? And I'm like, yeah, of course. There's times where we'll fall to 35, come back up.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Get up to 20, fall to 27. And he goes, but that's not that big of a swing. I'm like, no. He goes, why don't you think you fall further? I said, because I guess in your words, you know, I mean, I feel it took a long time. You said it was quick, but, you know, maybe it's because we were in the top 100 for a long time, then we were top 60 for a long time. Drop back down out of the top hundred, then back, and we've worked all the way up.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

And then I think if. When you stay consistent and you bring valuable conversations or whatever the value prop is for whatever it is you do.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

If you keep showing up, they're tuning

[Christy Primer]

in like new listeners, too.

[Sean]

Yeah. It. You're staying power.

[Christy Primer]

Yep.

[Sean]

If you do it the right way, you're staying power. Is there. Because you don't. I mean, again, we met and there's a. There was a bunch of flash in the pants. Yeah. I don't hear anything about them anymore.

[Christy Primer]

Never. I. Like I said, I hope they're okay.

[Sean]

I mean, I don't hear anything.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah. And.

[Sean]

And it's because, like. And then when you look at it, it's because they didn't do it the right way.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah. Oh, you just said something that I. I literally pray about this and meditate on it. I've been. I've been offered a lot of shortcuts, and I could have done a lot of different things to get a lot of different things, and I always Believe in integrity and my tenacity is strong and I know that God will reward me because I'm doing it the right way.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

Right. So that's it. Yeah. There's a lot of shady, like people, and it's unfortunate because people are selling shortcuts, but shortcuts never sustain.

[Sean]

No, I think not.

[Christy Primer]

Usually.

[Sean]

No way. I think, you know, shortcuts are, are great if you're trying to get somewhere quicker and you go and you only

[Christy Primer]

want to have it for a year or two.

[Sean]

Yeah, it's cool. Yeah. Go ahead and do that. If you want to burn out, go for it. Right.

[Christy Primer]

This show is iconic, so that's why you've been building it the way.

[Sean]

Thank you. I don't. I don't know that. I mean, that's.

[Christy Primer]

Well, own it.

[Sean]

I have a hard time accepting that. I appreciate you, but it is. But yeah, man, I think it's just about, you know, I mean, and again, it's a little bit about me, but it's been more about conversations like this

[Christy Primer]

that people get because.

[Sean]

Yeah, we're not talking about clickbait. We're not talking about this. We're not talking about anything stupid. We're not following trends. Yeah. Again, I think PR wise, you do have to follow some trends.

[Christy Primer]

Absolutely. 1,000%. Yeah.

[Sean]

We have to do that. Right. If there's a storyline coming out, I try to get on it. Yeah. You know, and. And if we can't turn it around in time, then I won't do it.

[Christy Primer]

Y.

[Sean]

Because doesn't make sense to do something and then turn it around two weeks later when it doesn't matter anymore as the cycle's gone. Right. You got to know if it's going to be a long burn or a quick burn. If it's a quick burn, get on it now. If it's a long burn, you got time, you know, but. But it's just interesting. Before we, you know, close it out, I. I want you to also talk about you're doing something for International Women's Day, and you're. You're giving away a lot of your books.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

So let's talk about your book and let's talk about that and how women can, you know, participate or be a part of. Of that day.

[Christy Primer]

Cool. Okay. So I'm actually, I'm speaking at an event at the Chamber of Commerce, and I'm going to be doing a circle exercise, which is in my first book I published in 2016, Primetime Success, and it's all about inventory of your circle for. For every Relationship, whether it's a paid relationship or a personal relationship. Also going to be talking to them about, like, what's it like to actually be in the driver's seat of your life. Right. Not in the passenger seat, the driver's seat. So that's cool. And then I actually have my poetic compilation exposed. Anthony actually illustrated my poet, my poetry.

[Sean]

I didn't know you did a poetry book.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah, I did a poetry book in 2019. And then 2021, I released Confessions of a Self Care Junkie.

[Sean]

Knew that one.

[Christy Primer]

Which is really powerful. And I just love empowering women. I mean, obviously I empower men too, but I felt for me personally, I wanted to write specifically to women because the healthier a woman is, the better she loves and the better she lives as a wife, as a mother, as a friend, as a daughter, as a business owner, employee, whatever. So healthy women actually really make a difference. But, yeah, and then getting a whole. I love connecting on Instagram. Instagram is my jam. The Gram Risti premier summer. But it's. There's so much more to come and I'm just. I'm grateful for these kinds of conversations too, because sometimes it's not. It's not that it's lonely, but sometimes when people don't. Aren't in it and don't get some of the. The stress, struggles, frustrations, or even the wins. Like some people don't get the wins of certain guests that you might have or people you meet or things you get to do because they don't. They're like, well, of course you did, because it's you. But they don't actually get what it took to earn that.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

Or to receive that. So I love that about you. I love being reconnected. The setup is so dope.

[Sean]

Yeah. It's such a cool.

[Christy Primer]

Your team is amazing.

[Sean]

Thank you.

[Christy Primer]

This is. This is amazing.

[Sean]

So, yeah, it's been. It's been one hell of a journey, bud. I mean, it's.

[Christy Primer]

And you're just getting warmed up.

[Sean]

Yeah, I think we're just starting, like,

[Christy Primer]

we're talking multiple millions. That's. That's what I see for you. Billions. Just declare it. Right. Done.

[Sean]

You know, it's funny because, like, I've always been. Been able to, obviously, like I said, think about what I want and then eventually it does happen.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

There's a couple things. There's. There's two different numbers that stick in my mind, and the first one is big, but it's a lot smaller than the second. I'm going to share it with you.

[Christy Primer]

Okay.

[Sean]

The first number is 10 million.

[Christy Primer]

Okay.

[Sean]

So I don't know when this is going to happen. That's not my job.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

My job is to execute things. And so I see our first, you know, multi year deal for like three years. 10 million.

[Christy Primer]

Yep.

[Sean]

It's rookie contract.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Right. The next one is 250 million.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

I mean, I've been saying this for how long? Two years. Two years.

[Christy Primer]

I was shocked when you said 10 million, actually.

[Sean]

And I couldn't.

[Christy Primer]

Which is fine. It's not to criticize by any means.

[Sean]

I could be undershooting it. Right. I don't know.

[Christy Primer]

Hey, when you hit it perfect.

[Sean]

I mean, who knows? I might get the 251st.

[Christy Primer]

Exactly. And you're open to that.

[Sean]

I'm okay with it.

[Christy Primer]

Right.

[Sean]

I'm okay with it. I know how much of my company I own. I'll be perfectly fine with that. But no, I just think that, you know, and those numbers that we talk about, you know, it's not about, for me, the, you know, 150 million.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

That. That would be mine. It's about what can I create with that. Yeah. What can I do for my daughters? What can I do for my son? You know, and that's the kind of stuff that you look at. And now you invest and you have generational wealth. So now, you know, I just want the day to come when my daughters go, okay, we, we just graduated fashion school.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

We want to go to Paris because that's what they want to do. We want to go to Paris and we want to open up our. Our own clothing line. Okay, how much you need?

[Christy Primer]

Without question.

[Sean]

Without. Without any hesitation.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

What do you mean, Dad? I was like, do you know how much you need? And they're going to say no. I'm like, okay, cool. Well, let's. I'm your partner. You're going in business with me, and I'm going to invest a hundred percent of it just because I don't want to return. But you need to do the legwork and tell me how much you need.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

And where do we need to be and when do we need to be there? Same thing goes for my son. Whatever he wants to do. Yeah, but I think that's like, like for me, that's what I want. The only thing that I want for me is I want that forever. Home. And when I'm at home, I want a damn chef.

[Christy Primer]

Yep.

[Sean]

I don't want to have to do anything. I don't want my wife to ever.

[Christy Primer]

Groundskeepers.

[Sean]

Yes.

[Christy Primer]

Landscapers.

[Sean]

I don't want my wife to ever have to lift another finger. I don't want to have to even look at laundry. Right. I don't want to have to look at anything like that. And then I want the backyard and everything like that. I want it to be like.

[Christy Primer]

And you can see it.

[Sean]

I already know what it looks like. I want it to look like I'm at a resort in Cancun, for crying out loud. That's all I want. That's it.

[Christy Primer]

Well, and. And on top of that, you're having impact that's rippling through the world. So that's the checkmate, right? We talked about chess when we started talking.

[Sean]

Yep.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah. So checkmate.

[Sean]

Yeah, checkmate. Like, I'm bored.

[Christy Primer]

I grew up playing chess.

[Sean]

Yes. I didn't. I grew up playing checkers because I'm not very smart. But, like, I just. I. I just. I crave the moments where I can just look at my wife, look at the kids, and be like, bored. Yeah. Yeah, me too. We'll hop on a plane. I'm gonna leave. What do you mean? I don't know. Let's go somewhere, like, right now. Like, right now. Like, let's go. I want to be able to go with my friends and, like, let's take a dude strip, man. Like, those are. That's what I want to do with my money. I don't want to. I don't need Lamborghinis. Like, I don't. That's not who I am. Right.

[Christy Primer]

Eight thousand dollar purse. Oh, I could feed so many hungry children with $58,000. I don't desire not judging.

[Sean]

You know, I don't.

[Christy Primer]

I don't.

[Sean]

I don't want a purse.

[Christy Primer]

You don't. Your daughters will. Maybe they'll. Maybe they'll design.

[Sean]

I'll buy them one.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah, maybe they'll design the. The next, like, big thing.

[Sean]

They're.

[Christy Primer]

They.

[Sean]

They want their company to be called Fashion Sisters. It used to be Sisters, which I liked more than Fashion Sisters because that's redundant. It's just. It's just sisters. Just. Of course it's fashion. We'll work on the company name, but one more question. In your true definition, right, like, if you think about the word determination, how is it defined by Christy Primer?

[Christy Primer]

I knew this was coming because I watched your show. Hello. You know, being in it, to win it relentlessly. So no matter what's going on in life, because contrast happens, you know, you can be up high in business and family. Life is down here. Or death of a love, doing Something, but being in it to win it. And. And for me, it's. It's just. There's no other option. Like. And I've been told I was a determined young girl from, like, everyone I met, you know, and it's become. I'm a determined woman. And. And I take that as a great compliment because when I decide that I want something, I get it. And it's usually better than what I could even conjure up.

[Sean]

You know, I love it. It was about doing things when you don't want to do them.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah. I do that a lot.

[Sean]

Yeah. Well, it's funny because I thought, you know, determination was loud. Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

It's not always.

[Sean]

Like, when we first met. Right. I was like. Or, you know, I was like, oh, you gotta go a thousand miles an hour. Yeah. You know, everybody else is going a thousand miles an hour. And that's what determination looks like. No, no. Determination to me is sometimes waking up in the morning and putting your shoes on and just getting out of the house.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Sometimes it's getting to the gym and doing your best that you can, you know, and it's in those moments, or nobody else knows what you're going through, but you're still doing your damn thing. Like, that is determination and discipline.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

You know, I stole a definition from. From Dan. I used to work with him at paychecks.

[Christy Primer]

Okay.

[Sean]

And we began, you know, we became really close friends, and now he's over here with me. And, you know, he'd always ask us, you know, salespeople, what's the true definition of commitment? And he would always say, is doing what you said you're going to do long after the. The emotion wears off.

[Christy Primer]

Oh, yes.

[Sean]

And it's funny because in one show, I was like, that's my one. It's very good. But I stole it from him. And that's my definition of determination, because, you know, it's like doing what you said you're gonna do no matter how you feel emotionally.

[Christy Primer]

Yep.

[Sean]

Because that's what adults do.

[Christy Primer]

I was gonna say that's what we have to do as adulting. You know, our kids might roll their eyes at us. We still have to show up and go to work.

[Sean]

Yes, exactly.

[Christy Primer]

You know, have an argument with your spouse. You still have to show up and do what you said you're gonna do. Yeah, right.

[Sean]

You know, like, you. You have an argument the night before, you still gotta hop on camera.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah. You sleep for two hours, you still have to show up.

[Sean]

Dude, I tell you what happened.

[Christy Primer]

Reality.

[Sean]

I tell you what happened. I can't believe it's so funny you said that. So not last night, but the night before. I couldn't fall asleep until 4am I woke up at 6 because I had to still get the kids out of the house.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

And help my wife in the morning. But I couldn't sleep because I had this massive headache and I couldn't figure it out why. And then it was just like, oh. But then yesterday we didn't have recordings, thank God. But if I did, I wouldn't have canceled it. Yeah, I would have done it. Still did everything I needed to do and then went to my son's baseball game and then we went to dinner and then I did the thing at night with them and then I fell asleep. Hard. Yeah, but it's like it, you know, determination just means you're still doing it no matter what. You don't have to scream it. You have to tell everybody like, no, I'm doing this. But you just do the damn thing, man.

[Christy Primer]

I do a lot of things with determination and silence. Sometimes I don't even tell my husband. I mean, I tell him everything. He's like my walking diary.

[Sean]

Yeah. Same my wife. Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

But there's a few things that I think, you know what? Until I'm actually doing it consistently from my end, I don't want to tell him one more thing that I'm not going to follow through on.

[Sean]

That was one of the things when I said to my wife, I was like, I'm going to get in shape. She goes, okay. I'm like, that's it? Yeah. And she goes, you said it before. Yeah. I was like, yeah, but I've been. It's been three weeks. Like, I've lost, you know, £12. She goes, okay, cool. But, like, when are you gonna quit? Yeah. Because you. You've been through.

[Christy Primer]

Because you taught her to think that. Right?

[Sean]

Exactly. So it's like, I can relate to that, you know? But, you know, you said, you know, determination sometimes is just to yourself. It's very quiet, but it's loud.

[Christy Primer]

Very.

[Sean]

The result.

[Christy Primer]

Yes.

[Sean]

Is like, what just happened? It's like, dude, that was five years of grinding or five years of silence

[Christy Primer]

and not giving up when you could have a million times a day sometimes.

[Sean]

How many times have you wanted to quit?

[Christy Primer]

Oh, lots. I mean, I. I can't even. It's not as frequent now.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

Because I've learned how to master my own mind fairly well when those thoughts creep up. But for many years, every day, like, why am I doing this? No, no one's discovering me. I. I have so much to share. How come no one appreciates me? How come no one wants to pay me what I'm worth? Da, da, da, da, da. You know? And then I'd hire these coaches and give them all my money and they're like, charge what you're worth. And I'm like, that's not working. That doesn't resonate. Priceless.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

You know, God says I'm priceless. I'm priceless. But I'd like a lot of cash.

[Sean]

Yeah. Like, I like a lot of. In my piggy bank, please. It's funny because it's like everything you just said is what I felt. Yeah. For a very long time.

[Christy Primer]

You get it. Like, so many listeners are right now, they're nodding their head. Right. Men and women alike. So many of us just feel overlooked or like, when are we gonna get the right investor? When are we gonna. Like, how come we're not making the right decisions? You know? And then it's like, wait a minute, you've been making some good decisions because look at what's been happening. And that's what I do to myself in my head. I'm like, wait a minute, look at what you have achieved. You've made, like, I've raised a champion. My son is an incredible young man. That's my greatest success in life, being a good mom. Breaking. Breaking cycles.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

You know, that's. That's nothing compete with that. Yeah, that's.

[Sean]

That's massive. That's massive. There's nothing can beat that.

[Christy Primer]

Right.

[Sean]

But, yeah, it's like when you look at the whole thing.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

You know, a lot of times I become speechless about it because I will get frustrated.

[Christy Primer]

Oh.

[Sean]

I mean, I. And the reason why I asked you, how many times have you wanted. Because, like, multiple. Like multiple times per day I've wanted

[Christy Primer]

to go, yeah, lots of. Yeah. What. What hour is it?

[Sean]

Yeah, like, what time is it? Like, what day is it? Like, maybe at 8:00am today, I was like, man, this. Yeah, but. But it's one of those things where that's an emotional, you know, trigger response that you're reacting to something different that's not even related to this, that. That may have happened in the past. Right. It's not the root. No, this isn't the root.

[Christy Primer]

No, this is.

[Sean]

This is the passion. This is the fun part. But, you know, I. The reason I wanted to bring that up and ask you, because, one, I respect you, and then two, I really want the audience to. To really hear from somebody else how normal is to want to quit.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah. It's often. Sometimes.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Christy Primer]

And different things, you know?

[Sean]

But it doesn't mean you quit.

[Christy Primer]

I won't quit.

[Sean]

No.

[Christy Primer]

Like Augie Mendino said, I will persist until I succeed. And I chant that when I want to quit. I'm like, I will persist until. And I sometimes say it really loud, really quiet, and I just remember, like, what am I doing this for? Because it's not just for me. It's the legacy I want to leave, not just even for my son, my husband, my family, but for the world. I have a big vision of the amount of people I want to help, and I have to stay in it to reach them. If I quit, it could be tomorrow. I could quit today, and then tomorrow I could have had my dream offer the impact of in the world that I. I've been desiring for years. Right. So I can't quit. I'm not a quitter.

[Sean]

It's funny. No, you're not. And. And I'm not. And I. Nobody in this room is.

[Christy Primer]

No.

[Sean]

But it's one of those things that, you know, when I think about it, it's like one more thing before. Before we shut it down, because this. I think this is important. When you said something like it wasn't working or it is working or something like that, it made me think of something. Remember talking to an individual probably three, four years ago, and I was giving that person the vision. It was a male. It's giving him the vision of what I wanted to do. And he goes, it's not going to work. It's not going to work. It's not working right now. It's not working right now. I go, until it does.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

And he goes, what do you mean? I just said until. And he's like, I don't understand. I said, well, the first time, I said, until it does. And now every time you say something to me that makes no flipping sense, I'm gonna say until it worked.

[Christy Primer]

I love that.

[Sean]

You have to stay on your. You. You cannot build something beautiful in your life listening to other people that haven't built the exact same thing and for the exact same purposes that you want to build it. Yeah. It has to be you. It has to be authentically you. 100.

[Christy Primer]

Absolutely. Yeah.

[Sean]

If you believe in it, it will. It will end up working out. Absolutely. You have to go.

[Christy Primer]

And better, like I said, better than we imagine.

[Sean]

You know, I'm still waiting for that.

[Christy Primer]

I'm coming over for you with your personal chef sometime.

[Sean]

Yeah. No, seriously, call me. I Don't have them yet. I don't have yet. But no, I mean, to the point is like. Yeah, I mean, if I. If it. It's all in stages, right. So if I look at it now, I'm like, no, this isn't it.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah.

[Sean]

But three years ago, all I wanted was a studio that to me would have been everything.

[Christy Primer]

Exactly.

[Sean]

Right. So it's like, you know, different levels, versions of yourself and, like, really take the time to appreciate where you're at. Sitting it, enjoy it, wear it, all of it.

[Christy Primer]

Right.

[Sean]

So. Well, thank you so much.

[Christy Primer]

Thank you. So good. Amazing. It's been amazing.

[Sean]

So good to see you. Now you're gonna go get some food.

[Christy Primer]

Yeah. Check out Naples.

[Sean]

Check out Naples. Or again, I told you, go to True Food Kitchen.

[Christy Primer]

Yep, it's.

[Sean]

It's very good food.

[Christy Primer]

Are you taking. You got all these. He's my driver today. He's driving.

[Sean]

Super simple, big guy. Just go right out on Pine Ridge. You're gonna run right into the True Food Kitchen. You'll cross over 41.

[Christy Primer]

Okay.

[Sean]

And then that's where it is. And then Waterside shops are beautiful. You'll have a blast. You'll go home a few thousand dollars

[Christy Primer]

lighter, but it's okay, you know, I'm working. It's my non scale victories. Okay. Buying new clothes.

[Sean]

Go buy a scratch off at a shitty gas station. Make the money back, you're fine.

[Christy Primer]

Exactly. Don't blame us if you lose money doing that.

[Sean]

Yeah, Seriously. But no, thank you again. It's been a.

[Christy Primer]

It's been.

[Sean]

It's been so rewarding to have you back on the show and in person after so many years. And, you know, just like I said earlier, we. We look back at it, you were Episode number 15. Wow.

[Christy Primer]

That's insane.

[Sean]

That's crazy, man. It's crazy. So. All right, guys, thank you so much for listening. Share the show with somebody you know. Love and trust. Look up Christy Primer on Instagram. You'll be able to find her website, find her show from there, but go support her her, because she's a great woman. And if you are a woman or a man that wants to level up and it's prime time to shine in your life, she's the person to talk to. So until next time, guys, stay determined.