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If you're woke, take an Ambien. Like that's our job to test things. And it may go over a boundary you don't like. The most inclusive people are the most exclusive. You're canceled. You're a fucking carbon based life form. But you know what? You said some shit. You're done. What? How the fuck am I gonna eat you?
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No one cares.
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You know what I mean? Here's a fucking. You know what I mean? Any wonder and they're gonna fuck with us. I'm sorry, I'm a little heated right now. They're gonna with us. Yeah, we're ready to go. We know what color our hair is. You know what I'm saying?
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Exactly. Exactly.
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It's too much. And you can say whatever you want. You can punch me in the face, but cancel me.
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Jamie Kennedy.
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What's up, man?
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Welcome, brother.
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How are you? Dude.
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Dude, I'm jacked up. I'm happy to see you.
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Good to see you too, man. Thank you for you did something that he did something. He came out on the street. He's got a lot of people here, but he came on the street to meet me on my city, which I've been on this bl 1 billion times. No one ever comes to this site. This is where they sell meth.
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Oh, really?
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So you're they. This. This is a good side of the block because they've gentrified. That's the side where we do this is it shows you our world. So different adr, looping cartoons, cartoon auditions. All those three buildings are all on that side. And that's what they do for decades.
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Oh, wow.
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And now this side is now the podcast side.
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That's awesome.
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So it's crazy.
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It's taken a great turn then.
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Yeah, it's good. I mean, it's good, actually. Had two girlfriends live in two different parts of the street.
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This is a lot at the same time.
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I'd like that, but.
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Okay.
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No, yeah, no, thank you.
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Yeah, no, it could be. It could be too much, right? It could be a lot. It could be a lot to do. Be a lot to deal with, man. One's. One's enough.
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Yes.
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One's enough.
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Yes.
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Dude, you have such an amazing story, man. When I. You. You've. You've come out with stuff recently, talked about your journey out to LA and, you know, typically, you know, when you are a kid and you have these big dreams, you know, a lot of times teachers can really put you in your place. Be like, hey, that's not for you. You need to go to college. You need to get your degree. You need to go and get a job and be professional. And your teacher did what for you?
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You know, I pre. I know what you're referring to is my Instagram post is. I've had multiple teachers, but one teacher in particular. I was graduating high school. I knew since I was about 15 years old that I wanted to do something in Hollywood. You know, I didn't even know if it was acting or whatever. I just knew I wanted to be in Hollywood and my mom wanted me. I wanted to quit high school. My mom wouldn't let me go. I'm not gonna use any of this shit.
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Yeah.
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So she's like, no, you have to graduate. So I graduated. And she's like, just figure out what you want to do. So I worked at Domino's Pizza, and I got a lot of shifts and I made a little bit of money and I took a local acting class. And the teacher was like, you know, I did really well. I'd never done anything like that. And the great thing about the class was just older, younger, black, white, Asian, gay, straight, you know, emo, jock, preppy. It was like 25 of us, but all different walks of life. And my teacher said that you should go to LA at the end of the class. And I said, what? She go. I go, and do what? She goes, just go. And I go, what do you mean? She was just go, take a plane, get off the plane and just follow your dreams. And I go, but I don't know what I'm doing or where to start. And she goes, you'll figure it out.
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Yeah, yeah.
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She goes, you're 18 years old. She goes, go. And I really look at her name is Teresa Donahue, I don't know where she's at. If she sees this, I thank you and I love you. And it was an angel. That was an angel moment. That was a divine intervention. And I was like, the Passion. She was such a good actress. And it was just so bizarre. And people in the class were like, we agree. And so I, you know, I. There was not a lot of things in life I was encouraged with. I was the youngest kid in Catholic school and all this stuff. And I had a great life. But, you know, you're always the run to the litter. If you're disruptive in class, you're a problem instead of encouraged, Right?
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Exactly.
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I was funny. Like, I made people laugh, but never, ever was that encouraged until that. And then, boom. And then when I came out to la, I tell everyone that everything that you are criticized for in society, no bad boo, L.A. celebrates it.
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That's interesting, man. That's interesting because, you know, everybody has that one person that. That sees you for who you are. There could be multiple people, right? They're gonna have more people telling you that you can't do something that you can. And I think one of the biggest things, man, like, when you come out here, you know, you're 18, dude. 18 in LA. Like, bro, right? From Philly. Like. Like, you don't have a place to live. Probably at that point. You got to figure it out when you get here.
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Yeah, Everything. I didn't know what it was like to live by myself or I live with my friend. I had a friend who said he'll come out with me for a little while. But. Yeah, I didn't know anything about getting an apartment. I didn't know what it was like to pay rent. I didn't know anything. But it was a different time.
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Yeah.
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I mean, this is the 80s. This is like VCRs were just really becoming all the rage.
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Those are badass, you know?
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So it's like. It was a little crazy because I came out right at the height of freeway shootings, and that was like, you know, the scariest thing and. But it was. It's the place of dreams, you know, it's where modern society has been, you could argue. Created through images and film and song that we've kind of shaped ourselves, who we are, through this, you know, model of a picture of what we want to be, what we don't want to be, etc. It all came out of here.
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How long was it before you found your footing? Right. Like, you hear. Because the first was the Malibu Most Wanted wasn't your first thing you did? No. God, no.
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Yeah.
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So, like, tons of stuff. Yeah. So how, how long did it take you to kind of be like, okay, I'm on the right path here. I've got some going on and. And I'm going to be able to do this.
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It took a while. You know, I. I tell everyone I struggled for three, I mean, four and a half years, maybe five years. After five years, I never struggled again.
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Wow.
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I mean, I had just struggled in my life, but they weren't like.
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Right.
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I was able to get into something and never really look back. But it felt like, you know, 15 years.
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I bet, I bet.
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But, you know, I watched actors, I'm not going to name names, who I thought were making a living and, and they were celebrated. I'm like, that person's not that good, but they're learning as they're getting paid. And I'm like, I just have to figure that out. What's the lowest barrier to entry? So. But in the beginning, I knew nothing. I didn't. You're talking about a person that never lived on their own. Never really had, you know, that many girlfriends. Never had. I had jobs, but a job that I had to, like, live on. I took a lot of public transportation. I didn't drive much, so I didn't know anything. And so I had to get the bottom of the barrel. Not that they're bottom of bare places, but I would literally start at, like, food, restaurants.
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Yeah.
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Red Lobster, which is very good to me. Gyms and catering, and it's even competitive there and then. So it took me a long time. I didn't know what a headshot was. I didn't know what a resume was. I didn't know the hustle of, you know, lying about saying you did this when you didn't. I didn't know what a student film was. I didn't know anything. Anything. But I just knew that this was the place to do it.
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You know, it's. It's interesting because you're talking about that lowest barrier of entry, Right. So when everybody starts in the industry, and I can relate because you said five years, felt like 15. You know, this show took about three and a half, maybe really even shit. I mean, let's call it borderline four years before it exploded. And we've just surpassed four and a half years. So to give you that. And that seemed like a freaking decade.
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Wow.
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The pain, the solitude at times, right. And I'm in my 40s, you know, and I have a wife and three children. But coming out as an 18 year old and having to deal with that, it's like, man, I don't know what a resume is. I don't know what any of this is. And you had to figure it out on your own. What was the. At the very beginning, right. Was there ever a moment where you're, you're trying to get in, whether it was an audition or something, and you. And you quickly found out like, oh, shit, it's not, you know, all rainbows here. Like, this is going to be, this is going to be a little bit of pain to go through to get.
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What I want multiple times. I can give you one really specific before, before I do that, is that I tell anyone to be a successful, let's say entertainer, but I'll just use comedian because I'm that and an actor, but let's just say comedian. To be a successful comedian is you have to be three parts. You have to have the ego that you are the person standing in a room full of people and that the ego has to be so big that you feel that you deserve to be listened to. Okay. But you have to have that much insecurity that you need their approval with a healthy dose of delusion. And so those three things. And the fourth thing is, is potentially nothing really to fall back on.
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No plan B?
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Well, yeah, you're literally living your plan because there is nothing else. Like, yeah, people would say, I wanted to try comedy because I thought it was fun. My office thinks I'm funny. No, that's not what comedy is. Comedy is your last decision before you plunge a needle in your arm. And that sounds dramatic, but the great ones are. And it's like, you know, Sam Kinison, he didn't have a lot of choices. Richard Pryor did not have George Carlin. I mean, you know, Bill Burr. These people came from hardened circumstances and that's why they've resonated for decades. And yes, you can be a successful comedian that's had a nice upbringing, but we all have pain. You don't have to have the worst. So that's the philosophy. The second one is I was living in Koreatown right before the riots. Sound familiar?
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Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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And I had a car. I was paying off a car, a very cheap car. So I got it from, like, a friend and they were letting me pay like a hundred dollars a month. I was working as a clown for a service where I was a party clown.
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No shit?
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Yeah, I was doing that. And I was catering. I had left all my stuff in my car, my clown stuff, my license, I put it in the glove compartment, all this stuff. I came out one morning, I was living in a offside room of my buddy who I rented from my car. Had been broken into. There was human feces all in the car. All my clown stuff was stolen. My wallet was stolen, my watch was gone, and the car was being towed. I came out and I looked at it as I saw that and it being towed. So I parked it in the wrong spot. Didn't realize it was gonna get towed. And it was broken into.
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I got in too.
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Like, I saw the. It was insane human.
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And then someone who steals the clown suit.
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I know. So there's some encampment back then that walking around with bozo shoes, so. And a nose. So I was completely broke. I had nothing. I went into my place, I literally. I had like ketchup and a loaf of bread, and I just started crying. And it was in night. It was like in 1992. And I'm like, I don't know how I'm gonna get my car, how I'm gonna get anything. And luckily, I had people that were. Did okay, and they. I like, begged them. I said, can you just lend me money to get this and I'll pay you. Here's the payment plan. I had a couple angels and they paid. They lent me some money and I was able to get the car out and stuff like that. But that was a great turning point of just how hard it is when you're broke. And I can't imagine what people are going through now because it's. Back then, rents were 600 bucks. So, you know what I mean? And the way. I don't know how much the wages have come up in 30 years, but at least I could worm my way out of the hole eventually. So there's just many times I've had that, and it's not one break. It's a series of many things.
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Yeah, that's an interesting point, dude, because like. Like that moment with the car and everything that went on with it, dude, like, that would shut a lot of people down and be like, you know what? I'm going home. I'm going home. It takes a special person to sit there and say, you know what? I made my decision. I. There's no plan B, right? There's like, there's zero plan. This is what it's going to be, and this is what it's going to work out. Right? And you've done that. I mean, look. Look what you've created in your. In your career, man.
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Yeah. I would tell people though, that it's really simple. There is no choosing chooses you. If you go to bed at night and you're obsessed with, let's just say the business, let's just say comedy. And you can't stop thinking about, I need to be on stage. Even if you bombed, I need to write a joke. I have something funny to express. If you cannot take a step forward without thinking of that, then you. Then you won't do it. The same with acting. If you need to be an actor, you need to be in a movie. I gotta see myself. A man's Chinese. I gotta see myself at Westwood. I gotta see myself on tv. If it's not there, you're not gonna do it. I don't have. You don't have a girlfriend. You don't go see, you know, for holidays. You don't do it.
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Cause you're obsessed.
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And that's it. That's what I tell people. The whole world and the business has changed forever. But that's. It wasn't me choosing that. I was like obsessed. And people will tell you that.
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It's funny because when I stumbled into this, I literally accidentally started a podcast. It was start off as a motivational page, like, just me messing around, trying to help people. And then I'm like, oh, shit, it chose me. I'm driving down the road one day, I'm like, I feel led. I need to start a podcast. But I obsess to a point where my wife said to me one time, she goes, this is all we fucking talk about. Like, And I'm like, I understand, but, like, you don't. Like, I understand, but you don't understand because, like, this is what I'm. This is what's going to happen. This is how the next two years are going to go, and then the next year after that and the next year after that. And it was. It was so intentional for me that I was willing to go through all this shit, all the silence, all the laughs from the freaking peanut gallery to. To a point where I'm sitting here with you right now with an amazing team supporting me and going on this journey with me.
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Like, what's the peanut gallery?
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I just think idiots just talking, right?
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It's like, oh, I think it's.
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That's a bait. No, not online. Just like, you know, you have friends. Like, hey, man, you see what Sean's doing? What a fucking idiot, man.
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They're not your friends.
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No, they're not. Right? Right. And we don't we don't, we don't have any interaction with them anymore. But, but like those were the moments that I'm sitting here listening to. What you're saying is like, oh, like I tried to walk from this before, but it kept, it grabbed me like, no, dude, you ain't going anywhere. This is what you're doing. This is your purpose. You get to do this.
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Yeah. And it's, it's really about if you do what you love, money will follow. Like I would not tell one person get in the entertainment business to make money. It's like, I mean you can.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But you gotta go through a lot of things and, and it doesn't. And there's no, there's absolutely no guarantees. I think we've been set up. The world conned us because they set us up with this thing of guarantees. There's no guarantees, right? People pay a quarter of a million dollars to go to college and hope to get a job. That is dumb. Okay. Unless you're getting a kissed in from a white collar Ivy League school, there's about 15 schools that matter. The rest are a keg party. That's blunt truth. You know what I'm saying, dude? You know, basically only fans isn't is a major minor at FSU as YouTube right there, I'm saying, you know what I'm saying?
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But you're telling the truth though, right?
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Yeah. And it's, it's like, come on, man, this is like, I'm going to go to college. You get a degree for what?
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What are you going to do with it?
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Yeah, right now. So when people. And you don't need a degree in our business and people want guarantees, it's just a different world. And problem is I call it the traditional industrial complex, meaning families, communities, they put all this bullshit on their children to do this and to follow in this, not knowing that the world is fucking changing.
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Where do you think comes from? What do you think it comes from though?
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Because it came from. Where does that come from?
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Yeah, because it's come from somewhere, right? Was it the Great Depression?
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Well, for me, yeah. My parents were. They were born during the Great Depression, so that's a different thing. And I understood it. I was born far enough down the line that things were changing and they were so tired that even though they resisted certain things with me, they also just were like, okay, let him do what he does. He's a little cray cray, but. But every, you know, there's, there's that, there's boomers, there's my generation, which is Gen X, which is, you know, we. We were let outside and your mom was like, go, go out. So you go out and we're going to go play, and then you come home at midnight. And your mom was like, why are you back so early?
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Midnight?
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Exactly.
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You guys have to play till midnight.
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Well, that's like, they didn't want you. They wanted to do their own thing. And your mom smoking a cigarette on the porch, she blows it in your face. Okay. That was football. Another vitamin. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was. And I'm not. And we have our own thing. Millennials have their own thing, and they've been screwed in a lot of ways. And Gen Z literally thinks they can identify as a beach ball. So you have many.
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Or a litter box.
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Yeah. So every generation has its different things, but the traditions I see with people, they have to understand that the world's changing. And for me, people say, well, you know, I'm an old man in certain ways. They say, because I believe in common sense.
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Yeah, how dare you.
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Right, but. And they confuse that with identity. And that's a whole other podcast. But the world's technology is what people have to understand what's changing technology and how that's the biggest disruptor on our. In our planet.
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Absolutely.
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And so, I mean, just yesterday, the Robo taxi was. I mean, I've been taking Waymo's for a little while, but the Robo taxi was a big thing on X.
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Okay, I didn't see that.
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Oh, it was the first one on in Austin yesterday. But the difference is, is that you can buy a Tesla, turn it into a Robo taxi, and basically it's like you're moving Airbnb. So will you let your car be a taxi if you don't have to work? And so these are the type of technologies. So if I'm a kid and I'm in high school, if I'm old enough, I want to get my dad to help me buy a Robo taxi so I can make money while I'm in high school. You know, I'm saying, like, so there's a lot of little hustles here.
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Right.
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In many ways. You can stream, you can video game, you can. You know that people sell products. Dropshipping. There's a billion ways.
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Yeah.
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So it's a different world. I think the smartest minds will figure it out. But AI is going to do a lot and already is, too. We have to figure that out.
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Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting because you brought up the whole degree thing. Right. You know, I went to college. I went to Louisiana State. So we want to talk about a keg party.
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Lsu.
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I played baseball there.
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Lsu. So that's what you would say. I never heard that. Like, they used lsu.
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Yeah, lsu.
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So you went to lsu, which sounds like an amazing school for parties and baseball. Baseball. So that's their ball. Football, too.
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Well, so traditionally it's baseball.
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What did you play?
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I was a catcher.
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Wow. Yeah.
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Yeah. So, I mean, if it wasn't for baseball, I wouldn't have gone to college. Like, I had no shot. Yeah, I was a C minus student at best.
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Did you go all four years?
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So I did juco for two years, and then I finished up at lsu, went to the college world series in 2003. It was awesome. It was awesome.
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And then did you go out to the farms?
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No, no, I got hurt.
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Okay.
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So. But here's the thing. My degree, useless.
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Yeah, but you're a special case because it was all about your arm.
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Yeah, it was all about my arm. It was all about the experience and. And, you know, the. The getting to do at the time was what I want to do. I want to play boosters.
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Probably said, I like this kid and hook you up with a job.
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No, can't do that, dude. I got suspended. I got suspended for a whole week. Listen to this.
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Well, don't sell dime bags.
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I'm trying not to, though. That would have been arrested. All right, no selling dime bags.
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Okay.
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I went to Orlando.
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That's arrested.
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Well, that's Baton Rouge.
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That's tea.
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I know, man. It's like oregano. Just sprinkle that on top and you're good. But I. But yeah, dude, I got suspended for working a baseball camp at my coach's facility. He asked me to work. Hey, Sean, you come work. I'll pay you 50 bucks. Then I get called into compliance, like, two weeks later. Hey, do you work at so and so's camp? I go, I sure did. You make money go? Yeah, I made 50 bucks. They suspended me. So. No, back then you couldn't do the nil. Oh, holy. Dude. Dude, there's some serious contracts. Serious.
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I can't believe it. So. But then you had to figure it out.
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Had to figure it out. And you know, that was also. Also very risky. Right? Going to play college baseball. And, you know, I started in life a lot later, but what I truly believe is, did it teach me something? The baseball end of it? Yes, it truly did. Teamwork, collaboration, taking care of myself, you know, seeing a Goal and going for it and not listening to the outside noise. That was very impactful for me also, you know, getting through school taught me the. The really. The only thing I remember about college, Amy, outside of the parties and the fun that I had, okay, maybe a gymnast here and there, but I had.
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A big thing there, too.
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Dude, dude, dude. So the thing that I remember when was I have to do this, so I can do that. And sometimes you have to do the certain things you don't want to do to do the thing that you love.
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Yeah. You know the saying.
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Yeah.
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You choose the hard road. Easy life for an easy life. You choose the easy road for a hard life.
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Exactly.
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You know, so they just attended. Men make hard times. Hard times make strong men. Yeah.
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So all the. All the good ones, you know, and the audience is here for it, right? Because they resonate with this stuff. But, dude, man, you're one of the funniest sons of bitches I think I've ever got the pleasure to meet.
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Thank you.
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And watch you over the years, from the Scream movies to your hidden TV show, to all the stuff you do with Mountain Most Wanted. I love the way your mind works, man. I watched something recently, and it. You know, my partner Pat sent it to me, and I'd already seen it. It was the. The recent clip that you shared about the volleyball. At the volleyball game at the. At the beach where.
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Oh, dude, that was a prank clip.
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A
Yes, Yes, I know. Yeah, I know. It was fucking hilarious.
- [25:21]
B
You like that one?
- [25:22]
A
I did like that.
- [25:23]
B
Yes.
- [25:23]
A
I did like that. I actually secretly thought, I'm like, what? How come I never got to experience, you know, going to a function and, like, you know, everybody explaining your crowd what it is? Yeah, please.
- [25:36]
B
It was. Did a prank on my show, the Experiment, and, you know, we did. I always say it was more than pranks. It was like psychological tests and see how far. So we had these actresses who are always so good. We had about three blondes. And I say that because just blonde girl actresses really are committed. These girls were incredible. And they're. Because they're doing real people into a prank so that people don't know they're gonna be pranked. And so this girl met a guy through some dating thing and said, want to come on a date? Meet my family? That was set up. And so she brings them on, and his. Her family is nudist. So it was me, another actress who was my mom, who's her mom, who's topless. And our grandmom was topless. And we're all in Speedos. And we shot it in Miami. We did two weeks of pranks in Miami. And the guy was like, this was your family. So it was all about, like, will this guy blend in with the nudist?
- [26:38]
A
Yeah.
- [26:39]
B
When the mom hugs him. I mean, these women all hugged this guy, this actor. You want to talk about, like, how they say, like an intimacy coordinator? This is in 2003. They were hugging him, brushing up against him, and they're pretty naked.
- [26:53]
A
Yeah.
- [26:53]
B
And this is where the wb. And I'm like, that was normal.
- [26:57]
A
Yeah.
- [26:58]
B
And I'm like, what we have now, it's like the fun bus is left. I mean, we didn't even think about it. The actresses were like, yeah, I gotta get him to believe it, so I'll do this. And he wasn't mad. He signed his life away because he, you know, I mean, he got a nice massage.
- [27:12]
A
It was.
- [27:13]
B
Yeah. So. And it was all commissioned by the wb.
- [27:16]
A
Yeah.
- [27:16]
B
So think about that now, how everyone's like, you can't just rub your breast. This is against an unsuspecting man. Sad society.
- [27:27]
A
It is. It's. It's gone down the. But.
- [27:29]
B
But it was fun to do that. So we would do a lot of stuff like that. And basically we learned that people will do anything to get with women, do anything to make money, but they're not bad people.
- [27:38]
A
Yeah. What was your most. What you. What was your favorite experiment that you did?
- [27:43]
B
It's hard to say. A lot of them would people be mad at now, but they wouldn't be mad at them. The same audience. I always tell people this. The same audience is going to laugh at it, and the same audience can be mad at it. The difference is the people that were mad, I could never see they were mad because they didn't have social media.
- [27:58]
A
Exactly.
- [28:01]
B
What my favorite one was. I think this was a pretty fun one. I had different ones. There's iconic ones, but I was at the Palms and the Maloof family at the time, if you know who the Maloofs are. They owned. Oh, they owned a lot of Coors beer.
- [28:19]
A
Okay.
- [28:20]
B
They own the Palms Hotel.
- [28:22]
A
Okay.
- [28:22]
B
And they own the Sacramento Kings.
- [28:24]
A
Oh.
- [28:24]
B
So do you remember when the Lakers and the Kings were always having those battles?
- [28:28]
A
Tim Hardaway was in Sacramento. Yeah. Yeah.
- [28:31]
B
And so we did a joke on Mike Bibby. Shout out Mike. A legend. USC baller. Legend.
- [28:36]
A
Oh, yeah, man.
- [28:36]
B
His father, I think, is Lawn Bibby, his name is. But legendary Sacramento King, Legendary NBA player. And we did a joke, and I was an asshole gambler and I was trying to bait him in the gambling big. And then I beat him and I said I got a 21 and he had a 20 and they were two face cards. And I say Shaq and Kobe always beat two kings, you know, and he like, you know, and all this shit. I mean this was at the heart of the early aughts. Yeah, King Kobe. So. And he was a great sport about it. But what was great was we branded like three things. It was like Coors beer in it. It was funny. We had a super NBA superstar was at the Palms. We were. The real world was shooting over here. We were shooting over there. It was at early MTV WB days.
- [29:28]
A
That's badass.
- [29:29]
B
Party at night. You know, this is fun, dude. Like Maxim parties and like things that are like, they happen now. But everyone's such a. There's Jamie, he's passed out.
- [29:44]
A
Film them.
- [29:45]
B
So it was just a fun. And it was the problem that we lack in society today, and I've said this many times on my main social media is nuance. We've lost nuance. We've lost people with senses of humor, really. Because the loud, angry few are the voice that get a lot of noise. And. And unfortunately the media has lost nuance. They should be like, yeah, that. What? That's stupid. Don't be mad at that. Yeah, you know, we're going through it right now, you know, as you're filming this. Yeah, I'm going to time damp stamp it. But yeah, so you know how it is.
- [30:16]
A
It's interesting, man. You know, but. But you're right because you said something that was interesting to me. You said that the same people are the ones that are mad now. They just didn't have social media. And it's almost like the social media aspect of everything gives everybody a right to. Okay, everybody has a right to their opinion. I just think now everybody feels that they have the right to be aggressive with their opinion, man. And it. And dude, like I'm going to tell you, I. My show is typically pretty, pretty. I mean it's pretty tame, right? We have some good people on it, right. We don't, we don't talk a lot of bad shit. And I have seen people come at people just for breathing. Like just any excuse to have a problem with something. It blows me away, man.
- [31:07]
B
Yeah. I say that a lot of people, Social media is giving everybody a voice, but a lot of people have. Should have laryngitis.
- [31:14]
A
Yeah, that'd be cool.
- [31:14]
B
You know, or if you're woke, take an ambient like, yeah, there's two we gotta get. And this is the a.m. there's. There's nuance. That's the thing. And it's like, dude, it's in my community, there's comedians that get mad at stuff. It's like, that's our job, to test things. And it may go over a boundary you don't like. So, okay, you don't have to laugh it off, but just don't ostracize a person to Greenland. Like, that's the problem is the whole canceling thing is the exact hypocrisy bullshit of the world because the most inclusive people are the most exclusive. You're canceled. You don't matter, Sean. You're a fucking carbon based life form. But you know what? You said some shit. You're done. What? How the fuck am I going to eat?
- [32:03]
A
Yeah, exact. You know, one cares.
- [32:04]
B
You know what I mean? Here's a fudgeing. You know what I mean? And you wonder. And they're going to fudge with us. I'm sorry, I'm a little heated. I like it. They're going to fudge with us.
- [32:13]
A
Yeah.
- [32:13]
B
Like where the fucking dudes go? We're ready to go. We know what color our hair is. You know what I'm saying?
- [32:19]
A
Exactly. Exactly.
- [32:20]
B
Too much. You can say whatever you want. You can punch me in the face, but cancel me.
- [32:27]
A
Like, what?
- [32:28]
B
That's crazy. I'm not supposed to exist.
- [32:30]
A
Yeah. Yeah.
- [32:31]
B
Fucking suck my original dick.
- [32:34]
A
My original.
- [32:35]
B
Can I say that you did the deterrent?
- [32:37]
A
Yes. It's fine.
- [32:38]
B
I'm getting great right now. It's too much going on because the city's burning right now.
- [32:42]
A
It's crazy.
- [32:43]
B
I'm pissed off because people aren't using common sense.
- [32:45]
A
It's. It's crazy.
- [32:46]
B
The same people that are throwing rocks at the cops are the same people that would lose their mind if their security system went off in Brentwood if someone farted.
- [32:57]
A
Yeah.
- [32:58]
B
They would call those same cops.
- [32:59]
A
Yeah, they would. Yeah.
- [33:02]
B
Sorry.
- [33:02]
A
See?
- [33:04]
B
And you're getting it too. Hammy's about to flame up.
- [33:07]
A
The who?
- [33:07]
B
Mihammy.
- [33:08]
A
Your Hammy.
- [33:09]
B
Miami.
- [33:09]
A
Oh, yeah. Miami.
- [33:10]
B
You're about to.
- [33:11]
A
Yeah.
- [33:12]
B
Enjoy.
- [33:12]
A
Hey. Thank God. I'm on the west coast of Florida. Oh, there's a bunch of dudes. There's nothing that happened in southwest Florida but Miami. Miami will my.01. I mean, it's already starting. Yeah, I saw something on the news.
- [33:24]
B
Yeah.
- [33:25]
A
Today on accident. Because I don't watch.
- [33:27]
B
Everyone has the right to protest.
- [33:28]
A
1000.
- [33:29]
B
Let's use common sense.
- [33:30]
A
Yes. No, absolutely. But I think it's, it's going a step beyond it, obviously. Right. So it's interesting to see into the point where we were like, okay, because I'm not from here. I don't know where the this studio is. I don't know where the hotels are. Like, where is it in relation to everything going on?
- [33:46]
B
About three miles that way.
- [33:47]
A
Oh, no. Yeah. You're not far.
- [33:49]
B
Yeah, downtown's right there.
- [33:51]
A
Wow. We're very.
- [33:51]
B
But it's a small contained area. I don't know if you want to talk about it, but it's a small contained area. But like I said, we're the hub in social media now. You're seeing little flare ups in Seattle, you're seeing flare ups in Chicago. I don't know if you saw New York last night.
- [34:04]
A
I think in Philly too.
- [34:05]
B
Is this Philly? Of course. So It's a summer 2.0. Love 2.0.
- [34:08]
A
Yeah.
- [34:09]
B
The issue is though, is what I lost it when I saw people throwing lime scooters, which I took over here off the bridge at police cars. Lime scooters, dude.
- [34:21]
A
What's the lime. Is that one of those rented scooter.
- [34:23]
B
Things that you just, you put a quarter murder. No, that's insane.
- [34:27]
A
Wild, isn't it?
- [34:28]
B
It's insane. And I'm like, these cops had to like get under the bridge, like, but also it's just like the people. Then I, then I see the celebrities going, this is a travesty what's happening in our world. But again, these are the same people that won't go down there and they will call those same cops to protect their estate. And it's just, we're at a tough point now, man and I. People are at each other's throats and I'm just telling people cooler heads got to prevail.
- [35:01]
A
Has to. But it's, it's interesting, right? Because to my point, I was like, I don't know what it's going to be like. So I thought right here, I thought we were 20 miles away from it. No, I didn't, I didn't know. I didn't know.
- [35:13]
B
No.
- [35:13]
A
Like I was told I was 20 miles away from this, like all that stuff. I'm like, oh, cool, we're good. Like, hey, it's fine. But we don't. You don't see anything, right? I haven't seen anything. But it's, it's interesting, man, because it just, it, it, when I see something like that, I'm like, man, everybody has a reasons. And if They're. They're pissed off or something. Like, I told you, I get it. But it's like. Like, man, like, seeing that on tv, that hurts. That's heartbreaking, man, to see all this. Hate all this, everything going on, regardless of the reasons, you know, for people listening and. And think that I have a certain viewpoint either way. You don't know what the I'm thinking, but I'm going to tell you, this is to see the people that have died. You know, cars on fire, lime scooters getting thrown at cops. Like, dude, that shit's. That's heavy.
- [36:02]
B
Yeah. And. And no one wants violence. No one wants people to be unlawfully taken from this country.
- [36:12]
A
No, no.
- [36:13]
B
But it's a rough patch, and we have to. It's gonna be uncomfortable, but to prevent people from doing their job. Yeah, I mean, basically, in a nutshell is if you. If you break the law, you got. There's going to be consequences even if you hate the law. I just did a whole pot about it.
- [36:31]
A
But, yeah, it's interesting, but it's just, you know, with. With the landscape and everything going on, like the cancel culture. How is it. Has it shifted your perspective on how you write your comedy? Or you just say it and just keep going because you're pretty. You're pretty damn authentic? So. I probably already answered my question.
- [36:47]
B
I mean, like, yeah, it's. It's. I don't even really write it. It's just like something happens and I react and then I do it a couple times, and then, like, a bit comes out of it. I think that I was worried about it. I think. I'm. Honestly, dude, we're in such a wild place in our world. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think about entertainment. I don't think about the business. I think about. There's two types of things going on in this world right now. There's people that are consumers, and there are people that are investigators. And I think since COVID on, there's a whole new awakening of people that want to know what's up, and they can't just sit there and watch some Netflix series because. Because this is crazier than anything you're ever going to see on a Netflix show. And I think there's a whole wide awakening of people that don't want to escape. So I try to. I mean, it's hard with comedy. It's hard because traditionally, it's like they have to make people laugh. And so I can do that and have, like, you know, two hours where I could just do that and things will happen. And crowd work.
- [37:49]
A
Yeah.
- [37:50]
B
But sometimes I just like to go on a real rant and you get people like, like, here's these. Like, I was coming out of a Holiday Inn Express. Yes, yes.
- [38:00]
A
Okay.
- [38:00]
B
And a guy came up to me goes, I like what you're saying, brother. Keep doing what you're doing. And he walked right.
- [38:05]
A
Hulk Hogan. It sounded like Hulk Hogan right there.
- [38:10]
B
East Tennessee.
- [38:11]
A
Okay.
- [38:11]
B
I like what you're doing, brother. And it was like 2:30am I was like, thanks, dude. And I was like going to a Circle K. So it's like these. It's not as big as my comedy audience yet, but those people are coming to the surface and they want honesty and they want it from Hollywood. And a lot of people have had disdain in Hollywood. So in a nutshell, even Netflix, I'm applauding because I think they're being more honest. I think the Roast of Tom Brady.
- [38:37]
A
Oh, dude, that was badass.
- [38:39]
B
It was so incredible. And it was so. It was just joke after joke and hardcore. No, like, like, it changed the landscape of Netflix and I think they're like, we're going to put comedy funny the funniest way.
- [38:54]
A
Yeah.
- [38:55]
B
And I was so excited to see that.
- [38:57]
A
The thing that I'm enjoying about Netflix.
- [38:59]
B
Is the fact that they were potentially more left leaning. And I think the change with that.
- [39:04]
A
They have a good mixture of everything for everybody, but it just seems like more of a free platform in a sense of like creativity wise. Like, go ahead, say it.
- [39:15]
B
It's more left ish leaning, but like the roasted, I think open it up and I think, I think at the end of the day, they're a business and if you're getting views, yeah, you're gonna get.
- [39:24]
A
That's how they make money. It's all subscriptions. It's like the license. It's like everything else like that, but.
- [39:28]
B
It'S not even that. Like, I think for now we're all independent islands. I, you know, I use seven platforms from YouTube to Rumble, to Instagram, all of it. I just put clips out and stuff and, you know, advertise my shows on it. And it's kind of what we have to do because. Can't wait for mommy and daddy to give you a check anymore.
- [39:50]
A
No. Okay. Are you coming to Florida anytime soon?
- [39:53]
B
Dude, I was just there.
- [39:54]
A
Where?
- [39:55]
B
I was in Boca.
- [39:59]
A
Okay.
- [40:00]
B
I was, Dude, I went Sarasota, Boca, Naples.
- [40:05]
A
You were just in Naples?
- [40:06]
B
Yeah. Is that your spot?
- [40:07]
A
Yeah, dude.
- [40:08]
B
Like, dude, I was just at 6 shows it off the hook. It's my spot.
- [40:11]
A
When were you there?
- [40:11]
B
I was there three weeks ago. I'm glad my marketing worked.
- [40:14]
A
Yeah, seriously, I'm glad you use your.
- [40:16]
B
Phone with alerts from Jamie Kennedy.
- [40:18]
A
Well, I mean, I. You know.
- [40:20]
B
Did you get any Facebook ad from me?
- [40:23]
A
No.
- [40:24]
B
Are we friends?
- [40:25]
A
I followed you. You haven't followed me back yet.
- [40:27]
B
You'll be my friend.
- [40:28]
A
I'll be your friend. Dude, we got numbers now. Like, we.
- [40:31]
B
I'll poke you.
- [40:32]
A
Yeah, you poke me, I'll poke you back. That's match, I think.
- [40:35]
B
No, you can poke on Facebook. That was the og.
- [40:37]
A
Oh, Facebook.
- [40:37]
B
You can poke. Yeah, but. Yeah, no, I. Florida is. I mean, dude, I do shows from Destin. Jacksonville. I love. I just did a big run there, but unfortunately, I'm pissed off.
- [40:50]
A
I missed it, man.
- [40:51]
B
But I go back a lot because.
- [40:52]
A
Okay, good.
- [40:52]
B
I just love it there. And it's so funny because you're doing this, and I'm like, you could. I could have a little base in Florida. I don't know where I would live because I like so many places, and then keep my other base out here because you could just go make a bunch of content and then come back.
- [41:08]
A
Well, Naples area is beautiful. It's beautiful.
- [41:11]
B
There's a store there called Seed.
- [41:13]
A
Seed to table. Yeah. Yeah. Alfie Oaks.
- [41:16]
B
Dude, it's so party. It's not even. It's like, the food's incredible, but it's actually just a party. Like, there's bands.
- [41:22]
A
There's a nightclub upstairs.
- [41:23]
B
I want them to start doing comedy.
- [41:25]
A
They probably. He probably would, bro.
- [41:27]
B
It's so good there. And. And in the bathroom, they have a Joe Biden thing.
- [41:33]
A
That little. The little urinal cake.
- [41:34]
B
I don't want to say it, but.
- [41:36]
A
Yeah, but pretty funny. I mean, if they've been there, they've seen it.
- [41:38]
B
They've got fb. FJB on the trench.
- [41:41]
A
The Alfie's. Alfie's crazy. It's crazy. I mean, dude, unapologetic about. It's so good.
- [41:48]
B
So coffee is bomb. Like, you can get anything there. The sushi, the tacos, everything.
- [41:53]
A
Yes. Like, so one of our friends said to me, and why, hey, let's do something tonight. Let's do, like a, you know, a family thing. We're like, all right, cool. Where you want to go? Let's go to see the table. Because I hadn't been there yet.
- [42:04]
B
Yeah.
- [42:05]
A
I'm like, you want to go hang out at a grocery store? I was like, what are you even talking about? Like, why would I do this. I'd rather go to the movies and watch a cartoon than. Than go hang out in a grocery store. They're like, trust me. I'm like, all right, fine. So we walk in and I'm like, what the is this place, dude? Like, you go over, then you look to the. Depending on where you come in. So I came in from over here. So I look to the left and there's that bar.
- [42:27]
B
Yeah.
- [42:27]
A
And then, like, you know, they're. Hey, can I have a. You know, Miller? Like, they're like, okay, cool. Boom. And the beer comes from up here. Yeah, that's some wild shit. Yeah, we're down here. Not up here, but up in. I'm, like, doing this and on the show.
- [42:39]
B
Yeah, up here.
- [42:40]
A
Yeah, up in there. Yeah.
- [42:41]
B
Just took a turn. This is for the Patreon only.
- [42:44]
A
Exactly. The bonus content.
- [42:46]
B
See, that's the thing is, like, I love Florida. I love Arizona. All these states that, you know, you would think. I love Vegas. I love Texas. I love New York, too. Even though it gets a little, you know, it gets a little upbeat. But, yeah, I'm always going to love la, and LA will always be my home, but I can't. I definitely can see myself having something somewhere else as well. But, yeah, I don't know, it's just. It made me. My. It's my bones. I've. You know, my. Have my name here.
- [43:25]
A
Dude.
- [43:25]
B
This is where you built your life. And even though it's going through a tough time, it's like I never want to abandon it because I love it. And it's. I feel at home, especially right in this area. Like, this is where I've lived, this area. I don't live too far and then live not too. I. This part of Hollywood, West Hollywood. It's just where everything started in Hollywood.
- [43:48]
A
Yeah.
- [43:48]
B
And there's a gravitational pull, so we just have to. You know, we've gone through some stuff.
- [43:55]
A
Yeah.
- [43:55]
B
This has been a tough year for the city.
- [43:57]
A
Yeah, it sure has. But again, like you said, you know, just like with life and in relationships or the place you live, there's going to be rough seasons. Yeah, Right. And it doesn't mean you abandon that area or that relationship because it's a tough season. You go through it, you grow through it, and hopefully the city or the relationship comes out stronger.
- [44:16]
B
Yeah. And it's like this city is made up of every nationality. It's a city of immigrants. You know, from the Mexican culture to the Korean culture to Thai culture to, you know, European, whatever, man. Africans. A lot of Africans here and the food and the vibe in the different parts of the city, and that's what makes it great. And we want it to be that way. And I think that they just want everybody to do it in a safe way.
- [44:52]
A
Sure, yeah. So, you know, California is interesting because I grew up in the San Francisco Bay, so I can appreciate, you know, what's up, dude? It's melting pot.
- [45:00]
B
Where did you grow?
- [45:01]
A
So, Concord, Walnut Creek area, you know, in the East Bay.
- [45:04]
B
A lot of time out there.
- [45:05]
A
Yeah.
- [45:06]
B
We used to do comedy at our Rooster Tea Feather.
- [45:09]
A
You know exactly where that is.
- [45:10]
B
Exactly.
- [45:10]
A
Yeah.
- [45:12]
B
So the bay is the bay.
- [45:14]
A
Yeah.
- [45:14]
B
I always consider the bay a little more gangster version of la, even though he's gangster. But the bay, they don't play. You know what I'm saying?
- [45:21]
A
It's funny because every time someone gets in my car, you know, or say, what kind of music do you like? I throw on some RBL posse or some underground.
- [45:29]
B
Yeah.
- [45:29]
A
You know, hip hop. They're like, bro, you're super white. I'm like, yeah, no, you don't know what I grew up with. Like, you.
- [45:36]
B
You know, you grew up with E40. You know what I'm saying?
- [45:39]
A
Exactly. I grew up leaving the bike path, walking home, and seeing the bloods chasing my ass. Like, you know, and. And back then, I didn't realize the gravity of the situation. Right, but those were gangsters, man. So. But that is funny. Like, it is a. Is a very gangster area. And I didn't grow up in the actual. Like, I'm not saying I grew up in Hunter's Point, right. But I had a friend that got shot up in Hunter's Point.
- [46:03]
B
Sorry.
- [46:03]
A
Right. He lived. So thank God for that. But, you know, took a wrong turn at night and, you know, vehicle got sprayed, man. But, you know, so those. California. I miss California, so that's crazy.
- [46:18]
B
I'm talking to you. I didn't know. I thought you were a Florida guy. So here you are. You are the. You're a California native.
- [46:23]
A
I am, I am. I was here the first 21 years of my life. Went to Louisiana for school, came back and stayed until 08, into the mortgage crash or whatever. And then, you know, my. My family had relocated to Florida, so I went out to Florida and I just. I never came back.
- [46:38]
B
Yeah, never came back. I mean, your. Your roots are here.
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A
My roots are here, man. I'm a Californian, man.
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B
That's your Philly for me.
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A
Yeah. It's like there's a certain emotion, man. You know, I know. I'M not on East Bay soil right now, but I feel it.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, it's like I'm. I'm home, and there's a certain calm about me being home in California.
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B
Very true.
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A
I feel.
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B
I mean, I do feel that even though I'm originally from Philly and I can do that in Philly, it's a different feeling. But I do feel that in California it is. And I love that you're saying California, because there's pockets from Palm Springs to, you know, Bakersfield, 100% to where you're at, to, you know, Pacific beach in San Diego. It is. I've touched all corners of the state, and I do feel there's little places I know where to go, where to eat, where to sleep, and, you know, I've spent a lot of time in Northern California, and I just. I understand exactly what you're saying. And. And they're going through it, too.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And it's. But it's just absolutely beautiful.
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A
I just love it, man. It's just crazy because it's like, you know, you talk about, you know, all these different pockets of California because there's truly different cultures everywhere in California. You go up to, you know, nor, like. Nor norcal. Like, Eureka. Siskius.
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B
And it's just.
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A
It's just woods, man. And it's like, I need a. I need a campfire and I need a beer.
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B
And, like, this is just, like, one of my shows. When we opened back up, one of my first shows was in Chico.
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A
Oh. Oh, that's a fun place, bro.
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B
And I. It was early 2022, and I had signed a breast after my show, but I used to do that a lot. And then we had the. Me, too. And then we had Covet and everyone and Chico. Shout out, Chico. I signed my first breast after, like, eight years.
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A
That's awesome.
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B
And I'm like.
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A
Brought him back out, man.
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B
I'm like, we're back. Yeah. Like, that was like a hello in Chico.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So I didn't know that. So that's why I literally have love for Chico for doing that.
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A
It's boobs, man.
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B
Well, it was just. Yeah. Because I was like, I'm okay. And, like, everyone. And she's like, I want it on. And.
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A
But, dude, it's not even about that. It's about being. Oh, it's. It's about much more than.
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B
Yeah. People were laughing. They were having a good time. It was the way it was. And everyone wasn't uptight about everything. And, of course, we have to get better and we've made a lot of mistakes, but it's also like, let's move on. Let's. You know, I feel like to everyone, we live in a culture now where there's a lot of people that don't know how to have fun, because, like you said, everyone has a voice, and instead of having fun, they're like snitches and like little hall monitors. And there are definitely people that have to be reported, but it's like, at some point, let's all just. It's. I don't know. I don't know. It's just.
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A
It just seems. It seems to be in. In.
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B
They don't want you to have. They want to go, you did that. Yeah, but you're bad, Sean.
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A
Without getting too much into it, it's just crazy because it's like. It's almost like it becomes a. It becomes one person says something, and it's like, oh, 27 years ago. It's like, yeah, it becomes a. Everybody starts.
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B
And it's just because we live in a culture that's connected. You can't make a mistake and be in a vacuum anymore.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Which is good if you're a bad person, but also which is bad if you're a good person that made a bad choice.
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A
Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's a good point, man. California.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Damn.
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B
I love that you're a no Cal.
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A
Native, nor cow, man.
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B
You know what?
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A
You know what I love about California? Like, food wise? Just, like, do the Mexican food.
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B
Yeah.
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A
It's different. You 100. We were in Temecula in last October. My wife and I came, went to our friend Lauren's wedding, and we stayed in Temecula. And I said, babe, while we're here, we're gonna go have some Mexican food. And she goes, it's how different. I'm like, dude, yeah. She goes, what are you getting? I go, I'm getting a bean, cheese, and rice burrito. And she goes, what do you mean? Like, it's just beans, right? You don't understand. You get what you get, and then I'm gonna give you a bite of mine, and then you're gonna try to freaking take my.
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B
Yeah, exactly.
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A
And one bite. She goes, what the. Are those beans? The beans. It's just different. Eat even the cheese.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like, I. I've googled it. Like, why do beans in California taste so much? But I get some AI answer. No one wants to give me the real reason. Yeah, dude, I just. I miss it, man.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I miss being able to go and I'm not. I'm not gonna move, but I'm. I miss going where I want.
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B
Even people that have a good life and they're successful and they're doing whatever. It's so true, dude. That's your great answer? They miss California.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You. Even if you're in the middle of the. It's an energy.
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A
It is.
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B
It's different energy. And I. I love that you say that because you're a native.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You're rare.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Because a lot of people up the place.
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A
Yeah, man.
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B
Are not natives.
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A
So crazy.
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B
You are.
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A
Yeah. I appreciate that, man.
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B
We need people like you back. Get a second spot.
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A
What was that? Dude, that's a good idea.
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B
I mean, come on, dude. I don't know. You might be OC now, but you look like your guy by a nice spot in Dana Point.
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A
But I don't know, man.
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B
Or if you want to stay in.
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A
Hollywood, I mean, dude, seems like a cool place. I mean, I haven't had a bad experience here yet, so it's been cool. No, man, I just. It's a special place, man. And. And you're right, you know, it's. It's a great resource and it's being destroyed, and you just. I mean, there's a whole bunch of issues going on.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I mean, like, but the fires and now, you know, the, The. The riots, like, I mean, California is going through some shit, man. And it's just. It's really hard to see, you know, just as much as, like, I hate. I hate I would only spend three years there, but I hate to see hurricanes destroy Louisiana.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, it just. It's heartbreaking. But I also hate to see my hometown in Fort Myers destroyed by Hurricane Ian. Yeah, I mean, that was. That shit's wild. So everybody's going through it, man. And, you know, we all have to find ways to continue on, to continue with your comedy and your. In your acting career. And, you know, with me and my show and teachers got to teach, grocery store clerks got to go to work and everything like that. It takes a certain amount of determination, Right. Because we're all going through some shit and life happens like that. You just don't know what's going to happen. Right? So you stay present, you and you. And you should value the moments that when there's a certain calm to it. Right? But when that adversity hits and that struggle hits, you have to display discipline and determination. So, like, as we close down the show, man, the show obviously is called the Determined Society for a reason. Right. Because there's certain displays that you. That. That I feel and that. That every individual has to display daily. But my question to you is, what does determination mean to you?
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B
Oh, you know, I think it's about sticking to the task at hand. And I think we've gotten too sporadic with too many things at once. We're a multitasking society and you know, we're literally breeding add every day. And I think determine is to have a feeling of a goal you want to achieve. You can't really think it. It has to have a feeling in you and it's literally following through. But you have to know like, you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger says so much about life through his bodybuilding and he'll tell you just start with a push up. And if you can't do a push up, do a push up from your knees. Just one. And you know, there's also that general that says make your bed. And I think we would all be more beneficial in society if we just did basic tasks of learning how to take care of ourselves, having a basic routine of life and have it simple and keep things simple. And then you will learn who you are and what you like. There's so many lost people in the world. And then when you do it, don't beat yourself up of what you're trying to accomplish. It's the. I know it's going to sound corny, but the journey really is the destination. You gotta love what you do. But in terms of determined, everything that's a failure is just a lesson, like.
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A
The stages and part of the process. Absolutely, man. Great answer, dude. Try well, hey, dude, I enjoyed you, man. I could have sat here with you for three hours.
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B
Thanks, bro.
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A
Dude, like, fun conversation. It just kept getting better and just. Man, I'm just glad to have met you, man. And you know, when you come back out in Florida, hit me up, you know, see the table seat. A table. We can go to seated table. Yes. And I'll find you a nice realtor. They can find you a home bamboo. Know you have your second spot out there in Naples.
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B
I love it.
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A
Atta boy. So dude, thanks again though, seriously.
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B
Thank you, brother. Congrats.
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A
All right, guys, go check out Jamie. Stand up comedy touring all over the United States. Go check him out. Until next time, stay determined.