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Episode: Ankit Chopra on The Future of FP&A in Cloud and AI | Ep 1173
Host: Brian (Coruzant Technologies)
Guest: Ankit Chopra, Director of Financial Planning and Analysis, Neo4j
Date: December 21, 2025
Length: ~13 minutes (main content: 00:00–12:37)

Overview

This episode features Ankit Chopra, a leader in finance and analytics for cloud and AI, discussing the rapidly evolving world of financial planning and analysis (FP&A) in the context of intelligent, cloud-based technologies. The conversation delves into why forecasting and pricing for cloud and AI systems fundamentally differ from traditional models, how agentic (autonomous) AI is transforming cloud spend management, the common financial pitfalls faced by early-stage AI and cloud startups, and the future skills that will define next-generation finance leaders in an era shaped by generative AI and autonomous agents.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. How Cloud, AI & Agentic Systems Transform FP&A

[01:54 – 03:41]

• Dynamic Economic Behavior:
  Cloud, AI, and agentic systems are usage-driven, highly dynamic, and interconnected, making traditional FP&A models—built for predictable, stable environments—obsolete.

  • Traditional FP&A: Stable, yearly cycles, predictable demand and costs.
  • Cloud/AI FP&A: Volatility in usage and costs, with pricing models shifting from static subscriptions to usage-based, hybrid, and even outcome-based models.

• Complexity of Interactions:
  Modern financial planning is “about understanding the interactions, behavior, and causal effects among customers, platforms, and financials,” rather than simple trend extrapolation.

• Quote:

  "In essence, the financial planning and analytics for intelligent systems is not about controlling variance, it's about designing systems for volatility—and that’s what makes it fundamentally different."
  — Ankit Chopra [03:30]

2. Agentic AI for Cloud Spend Management

[04:31 – 06:14]

• Scale of the Challenge:
  The cloud and AI infrastructure services market is over $700B and growing rapidly (“double digit growth rate fueled by the AI adoption and expansion”).

• Not a Data Problem—An Action Problem:
  Excessive cloud spend isn’t caused by lack of data or intelligence, but by delays in aligning insights and action.

• Agentic Systems Defined:
  Agentic AI solutions autonomously monitor, simulate scenarios, synthesize data from diverse sources, and take corrective actions (with human governance), significantly reducing time-to-action and minimizing overspend.

• Quote:

  "Agentic systems...can actually monitor usage, stimulate scenarios, combine information from very different sources and take corrective actions which drastically reduces the time of alignment and action and thereby reducing the overspend."
  — Ankit Chopra [05:48]

3. Common Financial Mistakes for Startups in AI & Cloud

[06:54 – 09:20]

• Top Three Mistakes:

  1. Skipping Deep Market Research:
     Founders often rush to operationalize ideas, neglecting robust market and customer analysis.
     • Recommendation: Conduct frequent market research, remain flexible, and take action on those insights.
  2. Pricing Model Fails:
     Choosing the wrong pricing strategy (overpricing stifles adoption, underpricing hurts revenue). Good pricing balances delivered value, usage dynamics, and cost structure.
  3. Confusing Revenue Growth with Scale:
     True scaling balances revenue growth with cost efficiency. Focusing only on revenue risks long-term profitability.

• Quote:

  "Most of the folks think that scaling a system...is all about just driving revenue growth, while the real scale is about driving revenue growth while maintaining cost efficiencies."
  — Ankit Chopra [08:46]

4. The Future of FP&A: Skills for Finance Leaders

[10:14 – 11:57]

• Shift in FP&A Function:
  Generative AI and intelligent decision systems will push finance from reporting what happened to shaping what could happen, focusing on insights, action, and intelligent resource orchestration.

• Human Judgment Remains Essential:
  Automation and agentic apps will “be really, really great cognitive assistance,” but they won’t replace human judgment or business acumen.

• Critical Skills for Future Leaders:

  • Critical analysis and business acumen
  • Ability to interpret AI-driven insights, challenge assumptions, and tie forecasts to business reality
  • Blend technical fluency with analytical skepticism

• Quote:

  “The finance professional who can blend technical fluency with analytical skepticism will be able to lead this transformation in much better way... It is about intelligent orchestration of resources powered by critical thinking and right business acumen.”
  — Ankit Chopra [11:36]

Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes

• “Forecasting and planning is no longer about just extrapolating revenue trends and cost trends. It's about understanding … causal effects among customers, platforms and financials.”
  — Ankit Chopra [02:45]

• “The end customer market for cloud and AI infrastructure services is currently over 700 billion and it's growing at a double digit growth rate fueled by the AI adoption and expansion.”
  — Ankit Chopra [04:39]

• “Conduct frequent market research, remain flexible, and take action on those insights that you've uncovered.”
  — Ankit Chopra [07:26]

• “The future of financial planning and analytics isn't about complete automation. It is about intelligent orchestration of resources powered by critical thinking and right business acumen.”
  — Ankit Chopra [11:50]

Key Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------------------------|-----------------| | Introduction to Ankit Chopra & his background | 00:00 – 01:20 | | Fundamental differences in FP&A for cloud & AI | 01:54 – 03:41 | | Agentic AI systems for cloud cost management | 04:31 – 06:14 | | Startup mistakes in AI & cloud FP&A | 06:54 – 09:20 | | Future of FP&A: Tech, Skills, and Leadership | 10:14 – 11:57 |

Tone & Takeaways

The conversation is expert yet approachable, full of practical wisdom and forward-thinking insights. Ankit’s responses blend strategic foresight with tactical expertise, emphasizing not just technological disruption but the enduring need for human leadership, adaptability, and deep business understanding.

Listeners leave with a clear sense of how FP&A is changing, why finance teams need to embrace volatility, and what it takes to build resilient, intelligent organizations in the cloud and AI era.