Podcast Summary:

The Digital Executive – Episode 1095
Guest: Fahad Rafi, Founder of Noodle Seed
Date: August 7, 2025
Host: Coruzant Technologies

Episode Overview

This episode features Fahad Rafi, founder of Noodle Seed, a company redefining the role of AI in business through "Agents-as-a-Service" and intelligent automation. Fahad draws upon his extensive background at Google, Microsoft, and as an advisor to tech startups to unpack how AI agents can relieve workers from mundane tasks, drive creativity, and enable outcome-focused business models. The discussion centers on what’s possible in enterprise AI today, misconceptions about AI automation, the new paradigm of outcome-based pricing, and the real hurdles to true enterprise adoption.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Automating the Ordinary, Enabling the Extraordinary

(Starts at 01:33)

• Human-Centric Automation:
  Fahad, a lifelong engineer, discusses the motivation behind automation: “All good engineers are also very lazy. So we don't like to do a lot of stuff manually or by hand. So even if we have to put in a lot of effort to automate something, we're going to do it.” (A, 01:36)
• Empowering Human Creativity:
  AI should free people from repetitive, energy-draining tasks like paperwork and data entry so they can focus on what matters: creativity, relationship-building, and solving real problems.
  • “An automated chatbot can answer your questions, but it can't build a relationship. It can't inspire people... True creativity is still a very uniquely human domain.” (A, 02:13)
• Scope of Automation:
  Most business processes still rely on human effort. Fahad’s vision is to automate millions of such processes, giving employees the bandwidth for truly meaningful work.
  • “There are so many business processes out there, probably in the millions or billions... that don't really need a person to waste their life on.” (A, 03:31)

2. Misconceptions in AI-Powered Agents

(Starts at 04:35)

• Oversimplifying AI:
  Many believe AI like ChatGPT simply “solves everything” when plugged in. In reality, business automation is far more nuanced.
  • “People believe that you can simply take an AI like ChatGPT, just paste some question into it and it'll give you the answer. In reality, it's a lot more nuanced and complex.” (A, 04:46)
• Mapping the Process:
  Effective automation demands breaking down each business process—determining which steps benefit from AI versus traditional code or rules.
• Beyond Automation: Process Elimination:
  Sometimes, the best outcome is to eliminate unnecessary processes altogether, not automate them.
  • “We try and find opportunities to sometimes even eliminate processes rather than automating them and using the intelligence where it's actually useful.” (A, 06:35)

3. Agents-as-a-Service: A New Business Model

(Starts at 07:47)

• Rethinking SaaS for the AI Era:
  The “per user” pricing model doesn’t fit an age where one person can operate “an army of AI agents.” Success is measured in achieved outcomes, not active users.
  • “Traditional software as a service... may not apply in the case of agents or AI agents. In the age of agents, a single business user can control an army of AI agents doing millions of tasks all at once.” (A, 07:54)
• Outcome-Based Pricing:
  Businesses care about results—not technical details like compute or token usage. Noodle Seed’s model aligns costs with the value delivered.
  • “When we go and say agents as a service, that really just means that AI will do the work on your behalf, help you achieve an outcome, and we will share in the benefits of that outcome rather than just charge you on the number of users or tokens.” (A, 09:18)
• Alignment of Interests:
  Agents-as-a-Service creates mutual benefit—if the customer wins, so does the provider.

4. Pain Points in Enterprise AI Adoption

(Starts at 10:52)

• Leadership Buy-In:
  The single biggest predictor of successful AI adoption is whether company leadership actively uses and understands AI tools.
  • “A very good indicator for how well an organization adapts AI is whether the chief executive is using ChatGPT or not.” (A, 11:13)
• Outdated Evaluation Criteria:
  Many organizations use old checklists (meant for rule-based systems) to evaluate AI, which can hinder adoption. With AI’s probabilistic nature, different metrics and risk assessments are needed.
  • “If you have a checklist of when you procure a horse or a horse carriage, that checklist is just not going to apply to an automobile.” (A, 12:23)
• Context-Driven AI Deployment:
  The appropriateness of automation depends on the business context and the impact of potential errors.
  • “An AI system is statistical, it's not deterministic... What might be a better metric is how do you adapt when it fails and where do you apply it...” (A, 12:53)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Automation Motivation:
  “All engineers, all good engineers, are also very lazy... Even if we have to put in a lot of effort to automate something, we're going to do it.” (A, 01:36)
• On the Limits of AI:
  “An automated chatbot can answer your questions, but it can't build a relationship. It can't inspire people.” (A, 02:13)
• On Misconceptions:
  “People kind of take AI because it's a buzzword in industry... They sort of think that you're just going to sprinkle some AI on top of a business and all of a sudden it's all profitable and all singing dancing solutions. It's not quite as simple as that.” (A, 05:31)
• On SaaS vs. Agents-as-a-Service:
  “In the age of agents, a single business user can control an army of AI agents doing millions of tasks all at once. So you're not bottlenecked on the number of business users.” (A, 07:58)
• On Leadership and Adoption:
  “A very good indicator for how well an organization adapts AI is whether the chief executive is using ChatGPT or not.” (A, 11:13)
• On Evaluating New Tech:
  “If you have a checklist of when you procure a horse or a horse carriage, that checklist is just not going to apply to an automobile.” (A, 12:23)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:57 – Guest introduction and personal background
• 01:33 – Philosophy: Automate the ordinary, enable the extraordinary
• 04:35 – Common misconceptions about AI automation in business
• 07:47 – The concept and practicalities of Agents-as-a-Service
• 10:52 – Hurdles and pain points in enterprise AI adoption

Tone and Closing

Throughout the episode, Fahad delivers practical insights with wit (“engineers are lazy by nature, which leads to great automation!”) and a forward-thinking vision of AI’s role in modern business. Both guest and host stress that AI is a tool: its power is unleashed only when leadership is bought in, processes are rethought, and outcome-driven approaches replace technical vanity metrics.

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