The Dinesh D'Souza Podcast – "GREEN MOON RISING"

Date: November 18, 2025
Host: Dinesh D’Souza
Guests: Brigitte Gabriel (founder, ACT for America)

Episode Overview

This episode of The Dinesh D’Souza Podcast features an analysis of the attempted assassination of Donald Trump by Thomas Crooks, speculating on his background and possible radicalization. Dinesh then conducts a thorough interview with Brigitte Gabriel, discussing her personal experience with Islamist terrorism in Lebanon, the infiltration of radical Islam into Western institutions, and proposed activist strategies to counter this threat. The episode also contains a segment where Dinesh examines scientific concepts related to relativity and quantum physics.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Thomas Crooks Case: Patterns of Radicalization and FBI Secrecy

Segment: [01:33]–[14:49]

• Dinesh reviews new information about Thomas Crooks, who attempted to assassinate Donald Trump in Butler, PA.
• FBI’s public stance vs. new revelations:
  • Director Christopher Wray previously stated Crooks had "no motive or political ideology" in his online history ([03:30]).
  • Deputy Paul Abate admitted to some extremist comments, but downplayed online presence ([04:23]).
  • Reporting by Miranda Devine reveals a more substantial digital footprint: Crooks had at least 17 online accounts and displayed a switch from pro-Trump to anti-Trump sentiment between Jan–Aug 2020 ([04:48]–[06:09]).
• Multiple accounts and aliases, including one using the name of a real FBI agent ("Rod Swanson"), which raises questions about FBI awareness or intent ([07:03]).
• Crooks also engaged with 'furry' and trans communities and explored gender identity ([08:18]).
• Dinesh argues there’s a pattern connecting trans identity and violent incidents:
  • Cites past mass shooters and attempted assassins with trans ties (e.g., Audrey/Aiden Hale, Nashville Christian shooter; Lakewood Church; Colorado Springs; Denver; attempted Kavanaugh assassin) ([09:14]).
  • Suggests the emergence of possible "trans terrorist rings," citing reports of combat training and arms practice among such groups.

Notable Quote:

"What we need is an aggressive crackdown—not on trans people, but rather on trans violence. It’s becoming a serious domestic threat." (Dinesh D’Souza, [13:26])

2. Interview: Brigitte Gabriel on Defending Western Values

Segment: [16:39]–[38:42]

Background & Testimony:

• Brigitte Gabriel, national security analyst and bestselling author, shares her personal survival story:

  • "My 9/11 happened to me in 1975 in Lebanon when radical Islamists blew up my home, bringing it down, burying me under the rebel wounded... I ended up living in a bomb shelter from the age of 10 till the age of 17, robbed of my youth." ([17:53])

• Rise of Radical Islam:

  • Initial drive came from Palestinian terrorism, before Iranian Revolution ([19:52]).
  • Impact of oil wealth and Khomeini’s 1979 ascent: "gave the radical Islamists the money and spiritual leadership...to explode on the world stage." ([20:33])

• How Democratic Societies Can Be Undermined:

  • Lebanon as a warning:
    "We were majority Christian...in my lifetime, I saw Lebanon go from a majority Christian country to not only a majority Islamic country, but a terrorist hub...Hezbollah got themselves elected into power...democratically." ([21:27])
  • Created ACT for America: "Not Think about America, Not Hope for America, Not Pray for America, but ACT for America." ([22:02])

Types of Jihad & Western Vulnerabilities:

• Dinesh outlines two forms of jihad:
  • Military/Violent Jihad – e.g., 9/11 or October 7th terror attacks.
  • Civilizational/Infiltration Jihad – gradually using rights/liberalism to undermine society, e.g., Muslim Brotherhood ([22:29]–[24:00]).
• Brigitte explains 'civilization jihad' and presents evidence from the 1991 Muslim Brotherhood Project for North America trial:
  • "Their duty was to infiltrate and dominate in the West using our open mindedness, our technology...to destroy what they call our miserable house from within." ([24:40])
• Left-wing allies and complacency enable this process:
  • "There are Islamic radicals dressed in Armani suits..." ([25:02])

Message to Americans: Activism Over Apathy

• The Islamist and leftist side is organized and action-oriented; "our side" is passive and confused activism with education:

  • "On the Islamist and the leftist side, they sit together and they say, 'Okay, who do we need to get rid of? Let's make a list of city council members...Let's organize to replace them.'...Their idea of activism is activism." ([28:23])
  • "We have...142 cases where Sharia law was used instead of the Constitution...in 22 states..." ([27:37])

• Assimilation and Immigration:

  • "Imported a bunch of people en masse in a very short period of time. And that’s the problem. We didn’t allow them or help them assimilate. And that’s the perfect formula to destroy a society." ([32:53])

Coalitions and the Red-Green Alliance:

• Cultural left and radical Islamists act similarly: blocking traffic, bullying opponents, etc.
• Describes personal experience being blocked from campus events by left-wing Jewish organizations allied with Islamists.
• "Our fight is with multi-organizations on the left...The left encompasses the radical Islamist, the ultra radical lefty Jewish people...and other groups that came together to work against America and against the American people." ([37:18])

Notable Quotes:

• "Stop being apathetic. That’s the problem on our side, Dinesh. Americans are apathetic." (Brigitte Gabriel, [27:37])
• "Their idea of activism is activism." (Brigitte Gabriel, [28:23])
• "Lebanon is a republic exactly like the United States. And the Islamists and the radicals were able to use our democracy, our open mindedness...to get themselves elected..." (Brigitte Gabriel, [21:27])
• "Red and Green alliance at places like Columbia University, because they’re made up of the same kind of people...their temperament is kind of similar." (Dinesh D’Souza, [36:10])

3. Science Segment: Relativity and Quantum Mechanics

Segment: [43:00]–[53:39]

• Purpose: Dinesh transitions to a discussion on reality and physics as part of his series on "life after death," challenging the limits of common-sense experience.
• Einstein’s Relativity:
  • "The universal laws of space and time must be different from those as we have understood them since Newton." ([45:58])
  • "Space and time are very different from how we experience them. Our normal experience is not a reliable guide." ([46:07])
• Quantum Mechanics:
  • Describes wave/particle duality, interconnectedness (entanglement), and unpredictability at small scales ([49:29]).
• String Theory and Hidden Dimensions:
  • Notion of 10 spatial dimensions plus time (11 total), most of which cannot be experienced directly: "They cannot be measured by any instrument...yet they are there because they help us to account for the things that we do see." ([51:50])

Notable Quote:

• "My answer to all that, to Bertrand Russell, really, 100 years later, is reality itself contradicts your experience." (Dinesh D’Souza, [53:31])

Memorable Moments & Quotes (with Timestamps)

• "What we need is an aggressive crackdown—not on trans people, but rather on trans violence. It’s becoming a serious domestic threat."
  — Dinesh D’Souza ([13:26])

• "My 9/11 happened to me in 1975 in Lebanon...I ended up living in a bomb shelter from the age of 10 till the age of 17, robbed of my youth."
  — Brigitte Gabriel ([17:53])

• "Lebanon is a republic exactly like the United States. And the Islamists and the radicals were able to use our democracy, our open mindedness...to get themselves elected..."
  — Brigitte Gabriel ([21:27])

• "Stop being apathetic. That’s the problem on our side, Dinesh. Americans are apathetic."
  — Brigitte Gabriel ([27:37])

• "Reality itself contradicts your experience."
  — Dinesh D’Souza ([53:31])

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:33] Analysis of Thomas Crooks case and the FBI's handling
• [08:18] Connecting Crooks with 'furries', trans ideology, and patterns in violence
• [13:26] Dinesh's call for crackdown on 'trans violence'
• [16:39] Interview with Brigitte Gabriel begins
• [17:53] Brigitte Gabriel recounts surviving radical Islamist violence in Lebanon
• [21:27] Lebanon as a cautionary tale for the U.S.
• [24:40] 'Civilization jihad' and the Muslim Brotherhood Project
• [27:37] Gabriel's critique of American apathy and activism
• [32:53] Discussion of immigration, assimilation, and demographic shifts
• [36:10] Discussion of the Red-Green alliance (radical Islamists and the left)
• [43:00] Science segment begins: relativity and quantum mechanics
• [53:31] Dinesh’s philosophical conclusion: reality contradicts common-sense experience

Episode Takeaways

• Patterns in Extreme Violence: Dinesh connects multiple violent incidents to elements of trans identity, framing it as an emerging trend and urging increased scrutiny and enforcement.
• Islamist Strategy in Western Democracy: Brigitte Gabriel details how radical Islam manipulates Western freedoms to gain influence, warning against American complacency.
• Activism Needed: Both Dinesh and Brigitte stress that knowledge and worried discussion are not enough—active, targeted civic engagement is essential to counteract both violent extremism and 'civilization jihad.'
• Deep Principles: Western democracy’s vulnerabilities are exposed when adversarial actors use rights and openness as tools for subversion.
• Broader Philosophical Reflection: Dinesh’s foray into physics is used to argue the limits of traditional experience and to foreshadow future discussions about metaphysics and the possibility of life after death.

For further engagement, the host directs listeners to actforamerica.org and brigittegabriel.com, and notes ongoing series on physics and metaphysics in coming podcast episodes.