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John Cardillo (0:00)
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Danielle D'Souza Gill (0:30)
Hi everyone, I'm Danielle D' Souza Gill. I'm going to be hosting the podcast this week while Dinesh is in Israel. Of course. Wish I was joining the podcast on In a Better environment, but in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination we will be talking about that in depth. We will be speaking with John Cardillo, former nypd, about security and about some of the some of the details of the killing and the environment there. And we'll be talking about about Charlie. So if you want to follow me, know more about me on social media, you can find me. I'm at Danielle d' Souza Gill. I'm on X, Facebook, Instagram, True Social everywhere and we're in for a really interesting show. So let's get started.
Dinesh D'Souza (1:27)
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Danielle D'Souza Gill (1:45)
Deflection is the name of the game on the left whenever they can't hide the fact that their ideas and their policies cause yet more human suffering. The assassination of Charlie Kirk is but one prime example. Finding themselves in the uncomfortable position of having fomented the hatred that led to the public killing of a man whose only offense was using words to defend his views, the leftists allocated all power to their deflection shields. One of the most heinous examples of this is how they seek to blame this brutal murder on conservatives. Some are actually trying to argue that the shooter is a conservative because he grew up in a Christian household with guns and a father in law enforcement. But that definitely doesn't make any sense. The argument here is that leftists called for Kirk's assassination as well as openly celebrated it online, on TikTok, on Instagram, on social media. But the actual assassin was somehow also conservative. No, this doesn't exonerate the left from the role they played in this act. A child caught with their hand in the cookie jar can come up with a less pathetically self serving excuse. Details are still coming out, but it is safe to say from the choice of target Charlie Kirk to the shell casings alone and what was written on them. This manifesto that the shooter left wasn't from a conservative ideology, it was actually from a clearly leftist ideology. Let's not even sully ourselves with such meaningless blather. But even before the shooter was caught and his motives outlined, the left was already in full blown panic mode. All of us remember the tone deaf words uttered by political commentator Matthew Dowd on MSNBC in response to Charlie Kirk's assassination before the body of a husband and father of two was even cold. And Dowd went into full on deflection mode, blaming Kirk for his own assassination because of his divisive and hateful words. He also suggested that the shooting was a mere accident and perhaps it was just a gunfire and celebration by a random Trump supporter. Sure, reasonable people can be upset about what Dowd said, but not many people have noticed that he was simply answering the question posed to him by mouthpiece Katie Turr. She was leading Dowd to that response by asking talk to me about the environment in which a shooting like this occurs. She set up the question to focus on the political climate or environment as if that caused it. That question is just as much part of the scandal as Dowd's response. We can't for a moment actually believe that Tur was asking Dowd for a rational and unbiased opinion about the nature of current day environments or public discourse. Such a thing is against all that MSNBC stands for. Blaming Kirk for his murder is only one of the tactics employed by the left to deflect from the real cause of this tragedy. Other Democrats like Ilhan Omar immediately jumped on the issue of banning guns. JB Pritzker decided it was better to blame Trump's rhetoric than Kirk's. Another deflection tactic employed by the left was was the one used by Hassan Piker. He took to cowering in fear, pretending he was in mortal danger from an enraged American right. But the most insidious example of deflection are the calls for unity from the left. The same left that booed the idea of a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk on the House floor. The same left that took to social media to gleefully dance cavorts celebrate his cold blooded killing. Like all other responses, these calls for sober discourse and unity are merely attempts at deflection. We want to get to the truth. We know this because that's what history tells us. Deflecting is a very common tactic. How long do these same calls last after Trump's first assassination attempt? A week? Days? Hours? More like minutes. And then those same people who engaged in red hot rhetoric went right back to their shtick. These calls for unity are anything but genuine. They merely want to lower the temperature and really just not take any responsibility for their role in this taking place. The left has been openly endorsing and calling for an increase in political violence for about a decade now. Not a day went by in 2016 where someone on the left and didn't intone that Donald Trump or his supporters were racists and fascists. Obviously this shooter was clearly labeling Charlie Kirk as a fascist. He wrote about fascism on one of the bullets. And so this accusation of anti fascist racist, they use that accusation so much that the word no longer carries any kind of meaning. So instead of rethinking the tactic of overplaying their political rhetoric, the left has since leaned into their new favorite phrase, genocide. Not allowing children to be sterilized by ghouls is trans genocide. Actually, no. We are simply saving children from having their body parts mutilated. Enforcing immigration laws is also genocide. No, actually we want to have strong borders so we can protect the people in this country from, let's see, drugs, criminals, people simply coming into this country. You don't know who they are. Fighting terrorists is genocide. Oh, we need to now sympathize with terrorists. Not agreeing with them, of course, is genocide. I wouldn't be surprised if some lefty influencer outraged at a ticket on their car windshield, complained about parking. Genocide. Too much mayo on your sandwich. That's genocide. To the left, everything that they don't like is going to be labeled as genocide or something so extreme that the more you hear it, the more you're indoctrinated by that kind of language, the more you truly believe it. And I think, unfortunately, that is what has happened to a lot of our, our, our young people today. Who are these radical leftists who are involved in groups like, like Antifa. To the left, every election is the establishment of a dictatorship. Any attempted debate means your very words are acts of deadly violence. To them, words are violence. They literally will say that kind of phrase. They'll say words are violence. Well, when you say things like that, you justify the killing of someone like Charlie Kirk, whose life was only taken because of his words, because of free speech, because he was out there never condoning violence. And yet this is the kind of thing that the left has really encouraged. Every immigration law enforced is in abduction by massed government agents. Talking about anti white hate crime is supporting the kkk. None of these sentiments are fringe on the left. These are the kinds of sentiments that are written about all the time in leftist papers. These are talked about by a lot of their professionals, professors, their pundits talk about this kind of stuff on social media. They're freely, openly expressed on the left. And many people on the right and even independents cower. They say, oh, you know, we don't really want to upset liberals, so we're not going to do this and we're not going to say that. Well, even when you only want to engage in free discourse, guess what happens? They shoot you. Which is what happened to Charlie Kirk. So these ideas that are expressed on the left are really harmful. They lead to actual killings. They've been shouted by the likes of Tim Walls, Harry Sisson, but even current and former government employees like disgraced former FBI head James Comey, he routinely engaged in cryptic calls to assassinate Trump. He was very careful about it. But you know, he has been called out. He's feigned ignorance, of course. Oh, I didn't know what those numbers really meant. Honestly, what you find on sites like Reddit, Blue Sky, TikTok are really extreme examples of this rhetoric with open and explicit, just laughing about what happened. This is happening multiple times a day. Let's not forget that the constitutional right to free speech does not protect incitement to illegal activity. It does not protect speech that is likely to, to cause an assassination like this. And last I checked, FBI murder assassinations, those are not legal. Maybe the reason they won't enforce this law is because they don't see half of this country's population as human beings worthy of protection. This is a commonly held view on the left. It's why they're so upset that Charlie Kirk, like the rest of us, spoke out against Arena Surudska's murder. This was one of his last posts. Charlie was talking about how we need to politicize, politicize that killing. This was the woman who was from Ukraine. She was sitting on the, on the subway and she was brutally murdered. So it's not hard to see that this is the kind of stuff that the left wants to defend. The left literally wants to defend this kind of senseless, this awful type of murder. And yet us on the right see this and we're horrified by it, and rightly so. This is cold blooded killing. Now, obviously, Dinesh, he's, he's made films, he's been incarcerated by the Obama regime and he's made, you know, he, he's used his, his words to criticize Obama and obviously had to pay the price for that. But at what point in this country do we say, this is not par for the course, this is not normal. This is not something people should have to go through. People shouldn't have to be incarcerated or murdered simply because they are conservative and for voicing their opinions on college campuses or in movies. So the number of people that I've seen just, I've talked to who are conservative, who just say, yeah, you know, we all just know you can't wear a MAGA hat in a liberal city. Obviously you're going to get, you're going to get attacked. You can't, you know, be conservative on a college campus. Your car will get keyed. You can't voice this opinion. This is horrible. We can't just accept this is our normal. We can't accept, accept that. And we need to speak out against it. And that's why when we see all of this support for Charlie Kirk now in the wake of his death, I think we have to realize we need to continue long term to really make sure that this isn't just a moment, but that we actually aren't afraid to be conservatives. Because ultimately what the left wants to do is silence us. And this shooter probably wanted to silence us. He clearly wanted to silence Charlie Kirk. His hope was probably that he would never hear anything that he deems as fascist, racist, all this stuff, which of course it isn't. But we can't just cower to the left. And so we need to really pray that we can keep this going. That makes me think of Mark Hook. He was arrested in a federal raid on his home for the crime of protesting abortion. And you didn't hear from his supporters or advocates that much. You didn't hear, you know, horrible talk from, from the people supporting him, asking for retribution or going after abortionists or anything like that. Many on our side are peaceful. They're gathering in prayer. They're just really wanting a better America. And that's why we've seen these, these vigils all around the country, actually all around the world for Charlie Kirk. And yet when we look at the left with the George Floyd riots, for example, when something happens that they don't like, they decide to go burn down buildings. But we don't do things like that. We don't stoop to that level. The fact is, it's really easy to go through life not wishing death on random strangers whose words and actions may upset you. This, this, this should be the norm. And, and that's something Charlie Kirk did every day. He talked to students he went up in the face of people who totally disagreed with him, and he was able to keep his calm, stay calm, cool and collected, and say, and say his views. And that's what America should be like, especially if you're a student. If you're a student, if you're in college, you should be able to be conservative or liberal on a college campus and not worry that you're going to be martyred. The outlier here, the really unusual, horrific behavior, is actually the behavior of the savage left. So, no, I do not take their calls seriously for unity. I doubt they will even last long calling for unity anyway, because they don't actually want to unite with us. Ultimately, their goal is really only to indoctrinate us. And unless you get on board with what they want, there's absolutely no desire for conversation. If the left had an iota of decency and sincerity, they would not be deflecting. They would be offering heartfelt words of apology. The closest I've seen to this is Bill Maher. He recently started talking about how we cannot keep calling Trump Hitler. And I think that's great. We should praise him for doing that and praise anyone who's liberal who says, let's stop doing this. We're sorry, because it is awful. Hitler was an awful person. We cannot, we cannot keep comparing modern people who America loves, who's helping this country, to someone so awful. So if the left is willing to acknowledge their role in advocating for, for violence and murder and creating, creating an environment that produced this, then you know what? We, we welcome them apologizing in that way. And I think that Charlie Kirk would have also welcomed apologies in the sense that if someone was leaving the Democrat Party, he was always happy to welcome them. If someone disagreed with him on some things, but agreed on others, you know, that's okay, too. But most leftists have not done this. And I think when you, when you look at posts on X, when you just. When you see posts like Stephen King, he came out saying something, something very critical of, of Charlie Kirk, and then he got so much blowback, so he had to delete it. Well, that's not the same thing, because you actually believe what you said originally. You're only deleting it because you're freaked out that some conservatives are now, you know, shaming you, rightly so, and criticizing what you said, and then he goes forward to delete the content. So that's not the action of a man who's apologetic. That's what they call, in legal terms, mens rea, which is Latin for knowledge of guilt. So if you know that you kind of did something wrong and walk it back, that's kind of what that is, distancing yourself from your own radicalism. So these people on the left, they know that they're guilty. They know that they're, that they're part of this culture. So it's here. I have to stop for a moment and just say that over the course of the years, we have seen a lot of liberals coming over to the conservative side. And so firstly, we have to thank those people, those liberals who have become conservative because they've seen the light, they've decided to follow common sense. And I think that's also why the people who are still liberal at this point are just so radical. They're so incredibly radical. And there's a huge divide in the country amongst what conservatives and a lot of normal Americans believe and people worldwide believe. Celebrating Charlie Kirk versus these very radical leftists. So we need to really think about how can we, how can we stop the radicalization of these far, far left students? And I think it really goes down to the campus. It goes back to that because we see people grow up in a conservative or Christian home. Then they go to college, they get exposed to a lot of this Marxist horrible ideology. And sometimes this actually happens in high schools and even elementary schools. And so that's. It happens at every level. But I think in college it really is another level. And we need to start weeding out who these organizations are. Who are these organizations that are priming these people, what groups like Soros are funding this kind of stuff. We need to really dig deeper. And so it's really begs the question for a bigger conversation. So I'm going to leave it there for now. We're going to dive into some further conversation with our guest John Cardillo in a few moments and we will talk more about the assassination of Charlie.