The Dinesh D'Souza Podcast
Episode: THE ICEMAN
Date: September 26, 2025
Host: Dinesh D’Souza
Network: Salem Podcast Network
Overview
In this solo edition of his usual Friday roundup, Dinesh D’Souza covers a wide spectrum of political and cultural topics. He discusses rumors and conspiracy theories surrounding Charlie Kirk’s recent assassination, the friction between donors and audience in conservative nonprofits, and his forthcoming film "The Dragon’s Prophecy." D’Souza then pivots to commentary on recent violence against ICE, liberal hypocrisy, organizing structures of Antifa, and concludes with an introduction to his book "Life After Death: The Evidence." The episode is characterized by D’Souza’s conversational, direct, and sometimes light-hearted tone as he mixes personal anecdotes, political critique, and philosophical reflection.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Debbie’s Absence & Personal Reflections on Commitment
- Timestamps: 01:37 – 07:00
- D’Souza explains his wife Debbie’s absence due to illness following a strenuous trip to Israel and attendance at Charlie Kirk’s funeral.
- Shares personal lessons on the importance of attending life milestones, emphasizing, "Don’t miss weddings and don’t miss funerals."
- Expresses regret about past absences and stresses their impact on relationships and memory.
“I have a principle of life … don’t miss weddings and don’t miss funerals. … I regret it. … Do not do this again.” — Dinesh D’Souza (06:14)
2. Charlie Kirk Assassination: Rumors, Donor Politics, and Generational Divide
- Timestamps: 07:01 – 29:30
- D’Souza critiques conspiracy theories regarding Charlie Kirk’s assassination, especially those circulated by Candace Owens about a possible second shooter.
- Emphasizes that official investigations are being thorough and warns against jumping to conclusions on “antisemitic, anti-Israel conspiracy mongering.”
- Explains the tension inherent in nonprofits like Turning Point: younger, more conspiratorial audiences vs. traditional, pro-Israel donors.
- Discusses conservative donors’ generational values, contrasting younger audiences’ “biblical and historical illiteracy” with older donors' roots in Cold War anti-communism and pro-Israel attitudes.
- Argues that supporting Israel is rational given America’s failures fighting radical Islam compared to Israel’s efficacy.
“I also want to talk a little bit about this issue regarding Charlie and his donors, because once again, we are in the territory of anti-Israel kind of conspiracy mongering...” — Dinesh D’Souza (13:30)
- Recaps America’s unsuccessful interventions in the Middle East, stating, “This is actually a miserable record ... and yet we don’t know what we’re doing. By contrast ... the Israelis know how to do it.” (23:03)
- Promotes his upcoming film, "The Dragon’s Prophecy," highlighting its exploration of spiritual warfare underlying political conflict.
“One of the themes of this film ... is this: We often hear it said that underneath our political debate ... there is a spiritual fight ... a spiritual warfare. But we don’t often think to ask, a spiritual warfare between who?” — Dinesh D’Souza (29:00)
3. Media, Political Satire, and The Tylenol Debate
- Timestamps: 31:00 – 37:00
- D’Souza lampoons the White House’s “Presidential Walk of Fame” for supposedly including an “AutoPen” instead of Biden: “The gallery shows a picture of the auto pen. The auto pen is in charge. The auto pen is making the decisions. … This is downright hilarious.” (31:47)
- Criticizes the left’s reactionary attitudes, using the Tylenol-in-pregnancy debate as an example of tribal opposition to anything Trump supports.
- Draws analogy between smoking and cancer statistics to explain why the presence of correlation doesn't mean certainty, and calls for honest analysis of scientific evidence.
4. Jimmy Kimmel, Media Bias, and the Aftermath of Political Violence
- Timestamps: 37:00 – 43:00
- D’Souza takes aim at late night host Jimmy Kimmel, accusing him of “selective morality” and hypocrisy in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination.
- Suggests media figures like Kimmel “implied ... Charlie Kirk got himself killed ... because, after all, he fueled the kind of hate of this MAGA movement. The MAGA movement turned on him. And it was a MAGA guy who did it. No, it wasn’t.” (41:52)
- Argues the shooter was a left-wing actor motivated by “anti-fascist” ideology, not a MAGA supporter.
5. Violent Attacks on ICE and Antifa Organization
- Timestamps: 43:01 – 50:10
- Reports on a recent violent attack against ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement), noting eerie parallels to slogans written on weapons from the Charlie Kirk incident.
- Argues left-wing groups, especially Antifa, are adopting decentralized cell structures similar to terrorist or mafia organizations:
“Antifa has cleverly created this cellular structure where each cell operates on its own. … All terrorist groups are organized like this. … The mafia is organized. … Five mafia families in New York…” (47:40)
- Welcomes recent federal attention to Antifa and “violent trans networks,” suggesting investigations are now possible under the current DOJ.
6. Film Promotion: The Dragon’s Prophecy
- Timestamps: 28:45 – 29:45, 38:31 – 39:32
- D’Souza repeatedly promotes his film "The Dragon’s Prophecy," highlighting:
- Its cinematic qualities and importance of seeing it in theaters.
- The film’s focus on spiritual warfare, biblical prophecy, radical Islam, and the political stakes in Israel.
“It is both timely and timeless at the same time. … You’re going to see, you’re going to be very happy that you saw it.” (28:45)
7. Intro to ‘Life After Death: The Evidence’
- Timestamps: 39:32 – 56:12
- D’Souza introduces his book "Life After Death: The Evidence," sharing personal motives for writing and his apologetics debates with prominent atheists (Christopher Hitchens, Bart Ehrman, Peter Singer, Daniel Dennett).
- Outlines his secular, rational approach targeted at seekers and fence-sitters, deliberately avoiding appeals to religious revelation.
- Describes three main arguments for the afterlife— from neuroscience, philosophy, and morality—each potentially decisive on their own.
- Argues for belief in an afterlife based on a “preponderance of the evidence” standard, not absolute certainty.
“If we think of this discussion as a courtroom trial. I’m not going to be able to meet the criminal standard ... But what I can do is I can meet the civil standard ... the preponderance of the evidence.” — Dinesh D’Souza (55:25)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- On conspiracy theories post-Kirk assassination:
“Candace is not saying that someone did that. She’s just saying it needs to be looked at. Well, it is being looked at.” — Dinesh D’Souza (11:15)
- On American failures in Middle East:
“We give an infinitesimal amount to Israel compared to what we’ve spent ourselves on something that is very important for us to do, and we don’t know how to do it.” — Dinesh D’Souza (23:20)
- On spiritual warfare and politics:
“The fight is really between God and the devil. … We need to be alert not simply to what God is communicating ... but also what the devil is up to.” — Dinesh D’Souza (29:10)
- On left-wing labeling of fascism:
“Don’t actually even look for fascist ideology … just look at the Republican Party, look at the MAGA movement. That’s where you’re going to find the fascists. This is the Antifa mantra.” — Dinesh D’Souza (46:45)
- On his book’s approach:
“Religion within the Limits of Reason Alone. Who would have guessed, or who could have guessed that you could actually talk about religion within the limits of reason alone? But this is my approach.” — Dinesh D’Souza (41:20, re: Kant)
- On proof of afterlife:
“I will show that by a preponderance of the evidence, … the likelihood and weight of the evidence is on one side more than it is on the other side. … It makes sense to believe. It is good to believe.” — Dinesh D’Souza (55:43)
Timestamps for Major Segments
- Debbie’s Absence & Funeral Reflections: 01:37 – 07:00
- Charlie Kirk Theories, Donor-Audience Tensions: 07:01 – 29:30
- Tylenol Debate & Media Satire: 31:00 – 37:00
- Jimmy Kimmel & Political Violence Narrative: 37:00 – 43:00
- ICE Attack & Antifa Organization: 43:01 – 50:10
- Dragon’s Prophecy Film Plug: (Interspersed, esp. 28:45 – 29:45, 38:31 – 39:32)
- Life After Death Book Introduction: 39:32 – 56:12
Final Notes
This episode is emblematic of D’Souza’s broad-ranging approach and rhetorical style: critical of left-wing narratives, assertive in defending conservative causes, interested in cultural and spiritual undercurrents, and always ready to debate religion and reason. For listeners interested in conservative perspectives on recent events, as well as the intersections of politics, faith, and media, this episode provides a multifaceted roundup.