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Dave Anthony
You're listening to the Dollop. This is an American history podcast where each week I, Dave Anthony, read a story from American history to a son of a bitch.
Gareth Reynolds
Hey, hey. He's just mad because I'm a local, y'. All. Gareth Reynolds, who has no idea what the topic is going to be about. Now, wait a minute. There's a third chair.
Dave Anthony
There's a third chair.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, we got a guest.
Dave Anthony
It's the guy that I had hold my soap.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, it's soap boy.
Dave Anthony
Do you want me to introduce him?
Eduardo
Sure.
Gareth Reynolds
We could do it together. You want to do it together?
Dave Anthony
He is from a little podcast called El Dollop.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes, that's right. He stole our idea and made it huge in Mexico, which is what they've always been doing. Hello.
Eduardo
How's it going?
Gareth Reynolds
How are you doing, Eduardo? Thank you for being great.
Eduardo
Yeah, enjoy. The hands are still kind of slippery from holding all that soap.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, now you're lubed up. Oh, wait, I got to tell one story. So the guy who's helping us tonight. Yeah, City was like, when we were in the elevator, he was like, my wife, when she heard the Dollop was coming, was really excited. I was like, oh, that's really nice. And he's like, but I guess it's a different show. They spell it D O L U P. I was like, what?
Dave Anthony
What?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, there's one, and it's like a drag podcast. And she was, like, really excited. And then he's like, so what's yours history? I was like, yeah, but it's like, I wear pink hats sometimes, so it's totally like, we're fluid.
Eduardo
I mean, that is Texas drag.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Yeah. This is completely. It's like, hey, yeah, I'm going out as a lady tonight.
Dave Anthony
Well, when you put it in to the search engine, it's like, no, you mean the Dollop, Our show? D O. No. Yeah. It's literally like, you don't mean what you're saying.
Gareth Reynolds
That's good.
Dave Anthony
And then I put in do look, and it says, I am a gamer, and I'm mostly caught up in school, so I don't post that often.
Gareth Reynolds
Hit that kid up. Let's see what he's up to. That's awesome. Let's follow that thread a little bit. Dave, start talking to this kid.
Dave Anthony
I'm a gamer.
Gareth Reynolds
I'm a gamer.
Dave Anthony
I am, by the way, school.
Gareth Reynolds
So I don't post 100% fishing for old weird dudes.
Eduardo
Yeah, well, he got one.
Gareth Reynolds
Sure fucking did. Without question.
Dave Anthony
How you doing, little dollar fella? What games you like? I like Par. Cheesy.
Gareth Reynolds
And she said, you know, sometimes. Sometimes love can be a game. Just talk to my ex wife, Shelly. Why don't you read the goddamn thing?
Eduardo
Is your hat on too tight? Like what?
Gareth Reynolds
No, always the opposite. Loose.
Eduardo
All right.
Gareth Reynolds
You can't come to Texas and tell us how to do stuff, Eduardo.
Eduardo
I am sorry.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes. All right. Lo siento. By the way, I burned banyo in. Lo siento. That's it. I got nothing else.
Dave Anthony
May 16, 1824. Juan Cortina.
Eduardo
I think it's called Juan Cortina. I think that's the right way to say this podcast going to be a nightmare. I mean, you can. You can say John Curtin. That's what it means.
Gareth Reynolds
John Curtain is awesome.
Dave Anthony
Was born in an adobe and rock house in Camargo, Tamale, Mexico.
Eduardo
All right. There's a Camargo in Chihuahua where I'm from. I don't know if it's the same one. I don't think so, but, yeah, I think it.
Dave Anthony
He was born to Trinidad Cortina Estefana Garcia Cocchia.
Eduardo
What the fuck did you try to say?
Dave Anthony
Yeah, look, I can't. I mean, to me, it looks like if I was to. If I was to translate this, it would be goose, Goose cocoa. They were a wealthy cattle ranching family, and the family's land Grant was over 260,000 acres.
Gareth Reynolds
Wow. Fucking, that's a lot. Yeah. And how many acres is that in today?
Dave Anthony
7.
Eduardo
I think it's like 500,000 now. Yeah. Inflation is out of control.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
Yeah, it's doubled at least.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
So his dad was an Alkaid of a Mech of a town in Mexico.
Gareth Reynolds
He was a what?
Dave Anthony
Alkaid.
Gareth Reynolds
Alky. Like your dad.
Eduardo
I called Alcalde. That's just. He was the mayor.
Dave Anthony
What?
Gareth Reynolds
You.
Dave Anthony
How'd you say it?
Eduardo
Alcalde.
Dave Anthony
That's fucking bullshit. He's a mayor.
Gareth Reynolds
He was the actual mayor.
Dave Anthony
He's the mayor of his town. And his mom was considered a very cultured woman, and she had a bunch of half siblings. And after three years, they moved to Matamoros, which is just across the border from Brownsville, Texas.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
Eduardo
I think. I think it's pronounced Matamoros, but it's fine.
Dave Anthony
Met the mothers. So the years he grew up there, there was a lot going on. This is just. Just before he was born. Mexico gained its independence. Congratulations.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Some of us are wooing.
Dave Anthony
The first few years of his life, there were many horrible raids by Native Americans. And when he was 12, Comanche warriors attacked ranches near Matamoros, killing people and taking livestock. So Juan hates Native Americans. So can I just say, welcome to America, buddy.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Eduardo
Was he given his green card, like, right then and there?
Dave Anthony
When he was a teen, nearby towns and villages revolted against the Mexican government. When he was around 18, 200 Texas raided across the Rio Grande in retaliation for Mexican Mexicans attacking San Antonio. So fucking think about that. I don't know. And the Texans were defeated.
Eduardo
I didn't do anything. I'm just tonight's DEI hire. I don't know what.
Gareth Reynolds
We're not paying you.
Eduardo
That tracks.
Gareth Reynolds
You're just dei.
Dave Anthony
And Juan watched as people cheered in a Matamoros defeat and as the defeated Texans were marched through the streets. That's probably don't read about that in your Texas history books, do you not?
Eduardo
So they're all about the Alamo.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Eduardo
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
They're not laughing very hard at that stuff. Still not over it.
Dave Anthony
Now, a local Irish merchant said Juan was a, quote, bold and daring fellow who spent time working with horses and. And as a guide for travelers. And he and his vaquero friends spent time out on the prairies and in the chaparral, and they went to fandangos and they drank and they gambled and they danced and they got into fights.
Eduardo
I mean, what else were you going to do?
Dave Anthony
I know, right? That's like. Yeah, that's the whole thing.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Go see movies. Fandango.
Dave Anthony
As a young man, everyone knew you did not fuck with Juan. Quote, the man who crossed Cortina, courted trouble and danger. He's a bad boy.
Gareth Reynolds
Like you on Twitter.
Dave Anthony
That's right.
Eduardo
Oh, was he just blocking people?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He just blocks people. That people would message, whoever his friends are and be like, hey, can you ask Juan to unblock me?
Eduardo
Like, no, you know what you did?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dave Anthony
He dressed well. The ladies were very into him. Everyone liked Juan. He had charisma. He was five, six, very. So really tall.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
Very good looking. He had green eyes and a beard. Not educated. And as an adult, did not know how to read or write. So fucking catch.
Eduardo
Yeah, that also tracks.
Dave Anthony
Yeah. Hot and dumb.
Gareth Reynolds
Yep.
Dave Anthony
At 20, he joined the Guardia Nacional D. Tamaulapis.
Gareth Reynolds
Go ahead, Let him struggle. Okay.
Dave Anthony
They're bad boys.
Gareth Reynolds
What are they all about?
Dave Anthony
It's an army of some sort.
Gareth Reynolds
Sure.
Dave Anthony
And he rose to the rank of corporal. And around this time, he seduced an older widow with three kids.
Gareth Reynolds
He seduced an old widow with three kids?
Dave Anthony
Yeah. Fuck you.
Eduardo
So he took Three kids to the widow. And she was seduced by that.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, that's right.
Dave Anthony
Hey, what do you think of these three kids?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, I know. I mean, have you never learned him so fast in that?
Dave Anthony
Yeah, you get a widow, you show her three kids, she comes in, and then he's banging away.
Gareth Reynolds
Jesus Christ.
Dave Anthony
It's called hot sex. You guys don't know how to set a trap. His parents were super not into it.
Gareth Reynolds
Into what? The seduction.
Dave Anthony
Yeah, being with. With being with the older widow. They didn't like that. They wanted him.
Gareth Reynolds
How old is the widow? A widow?
Dave Anthony
She's. She's like 30. Ish. And he's like.
Gareth Reynolds
It's fucking hilarious that we're like, what an old bag. She's 31. Yeah. Yeeky.
Dave Anthony
And then he married his cousin when he was 21, and she was 16.
Gareth Reynolds
Fuck me.
Dave Anthony
That's fucking hot.
Gareth Reynolds
I didn't know. I didn't know Mexico had an Arkansas.
Eduardo
We have, like, three.
Dave Anthony
But then he abandoned his cousin, which really upset his mom.
Gareth Reynolds
That's a crazy thing.
Eduardo
Yeah. That's a horrible family reunion.
Dave Anthony
That is an awkward family reunion.
Gareth Reynolds
How dare you divorce your cousin?
Dave Anthony
She's right over there. But he does keep banging the widow. And then they had a kid.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, nice.
Dave Anthony
He would actually end up marrying the MILF in, like, four years.
Gareth Reynolds
You mean the widow. You just turned her into a milf.
Dave Anthony
Oh, he would actually end up marrying the widow.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Hey, buddy, try to keep it focused a little bit.
Eduardo
I mean, she already had three kids, right?
Dave Anthony
By definition, she's a milf. He wants to fuck her. She has three kids.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay. Keep it in your pants.
Dave Anthony
Yeah. All right.
Gareth Reynolds
So he ended up jacking off to the MILF picture after the show. I mean, he ended up. Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Dave Anthony
Juan built a ranch called San Jose, about 10 miles from Brownsville. And the Republic of Texas became part of the US in 1846. And then Mexico broke off diplomatic relations.
Gareth Reynolds
We've done so much for you. So much.
Eduardo
We still let you make tacos. That's fine.
Dave Anthony
You try to take that away from us.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. And we made Taco Bell and Del Taco for you. You're welcome.
Dave Anthony
Do you have a Taco Bell in Mexico?
Eduardo
They tried to go and, like, set up a few in Mexico City, and they. They were just ran out of town.
Gareth Reynolds
That's. So they had to make a run for the border. The irony.
Eduardo
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
That's so great. Oh, that's so fucking good.
Dave Anthony
Oh, my God.
Gareth Reynolds
That is great.
Dave Anthony
Oh, yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Do you want to have a Dorito? Taco with hella sauce. Get the fuck out of here.
Dave Anthony
Are you interested in a beef taco?
Eduardo
No, senor.
Gareth Reynolds
English.
Dave Anthony
That'd be a great movie. Actually, when Taco Bell tried to come.
Gareth Reynolds
To Mexico City, that would be great.
Dave Anthony
So the US Claimed the Mexico border was at the Rio Grande, while Mexico said it was Rio Nueces.
Eduardo
Yeah, there's actually, where I'm from, there's, like, right by El Paso, Texas. We have a couple of parks that are, like, in a. Where the river used to be, because it moved, so we gained, like.
Dave Anthony
Oh, you got property.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, the river moved.
Eduardo
Yeah, like the. The. I mean, it was. It had water back then. Crazy times.
Gareth Reynolds
So a river with water.
Eduardo
Yeah, I know, it's weird. So the riverbed sort of moved after a flood. So they were fighting over the, like, a strip of land, and we kept it.
Dave Anthony
Congratulations. That's awesome.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, security, everyone who clapped let them. Yep.
Dave Anthony
At the time, what we're talking about, this giant swath of land is disputed, but the main area we're talking about is the little red slashes between the.
Eduardo
Nueces river and the Nueces means nuts, by the way.
Dave Anthony
It means what?
Eduardo
Nuts. So they're fighting over the nuts strip, which is like the landing strip, but for a guy.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
It'S the.
Eduardo
Yeah. Oh, look, it's the Gulf of Mexico. That's not even there anymore. Miss it, Eh, it's fine.
Dave Anthony
SARS bitch.
Gareth Reynolds
And the American Canal.
Eduardo
Well, at least we don't have Taco Bell.
Gareth Reynolds
Wait a minute.
Dave Anthony
I like it. So the US army is sent to the Rio Grande, and a Mexican army is sent also there. And Juan said patriotism caused him to, quote, take up arms and to fight against the invaders, the Mexicans. He's in that area. So he was used as a scout by the Mexican army, and he took part in fighting and was a combat veteran when he was just 21.
Gareth Reynolds
Wait, wait.
Eduardo
Now I'm confused. Are you sure Cortina or Curtin was his last name or that was just his attire? Because.
Dave Anthony
Do you want to know his full name? I didn't want to have to do this, because it's just.
Gareth Reynolds
This is going to be an assault on Spanish.
Eduardo
We are about to witness a hate crime.
Dave Anthony
Juan Nepo Masseno Cortina Garcia Coche.
Eduardo
Juano Cortina. What the. Was the last.
Gareth Reynolds
Dave? That's just a MILF picture.
Eduardo
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, I get why he keeps it around. Yeah, there we go.
Dave Anthony
Yeah, whatever. Yeah, what he said. Yeah, but he's called Cortina in history books. Yeah, yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
Eduardo
Yeah. Just find Cortina, because it's really complicated.
Dave Anthony
Everyone's like, I'll give you that one.
Eduardo
Yeah, that one's crazy.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
The Mexican army is defeated and the US marched into Matamoros in May, 1846. So Juan's humiliated by this. His property falls into the hands of the enemy, and the army sets up a supply. A supply base at his childhood home.
Gareth Reynolds
That's fucked.
Eduardo
Oh, wow.
Dave Anthony
Juan lived a nomad life at this point. He was wandering and fighting.
Gareth Reynolds
Wandering.
Eduardo
Yeah. Now you can mute him.
Dave Anthony
Yeah, he was wandering and fighting. Isolated.
Gareth Reynolds
Hey.
Dave Anthony
Yeah, I just did it.
Gareth Reynolds
You see?
Eduardo
It feels good, right?
Dave Anthony
No.
Eduardo
I haven't seen you smiling in years like that.
Gareth Reynolds
He liked it. Look at him. He liked it.
Dave Anthony
And he is fighting isolated American units and, quote, fleeing, okay? Now, Mexico City falls to the Americans in 1847. Boo. Yeah. The dead, by the way.
Eduardo
Right now, Mexico City has also fallen to the Americans.
Gareth Reynolds
They're just moving in a different way.
Eduardo
Yeah, they're just moving there and taking the spice out of life.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. We're just walking around being like, do you have ranch dressing? I'd rather a war. What's the WI fi? Give a QR code? I don't like a sticky menu.
Eduardo
Oh, God.
Dave Anthony
Tell about the Karen story.
Eduardo
About what?
Dave Anthony
The woman who. With the parking.
Eduardo
All right, so there's this place, like, in Southern Mexico, and this Mexican guy just parked in front of a house, you know, by the curb. Because the curb is public property.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Parked.
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
Eduardo
So he just parked there, and this American lady, this expat, you know, quotes, comes out, and she's upset, and she calls the cops on the Mexican guy to have his car removed. And then she's upset because the cop is not speaking English. And the cop is like, que?
Gareth Reynolds
No, it's not. Okay. Speak English. Do you know where you are?
Eduardo
Pinch of you?
Gareth Reynolds
Where's that Taco Bell.
Eduardo
Yep.
Dave Anthony
Oh, fuck. We're good.
Gareth Reynolds
We are the best.
Eduardo
Yeah. By the way, in Mexico, we call them Karen. Not Karen. It's Karen.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, that's way better. Karen.
Eduardo
Or we call her, you know, pincha Vieja, but that's a different thing. Yeah, they get it. They have Mexicans and Houstons. Right? Yeah.
Dave Anthony
It's sad. We're gonna have to invade you guys again.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
So Mexico City falls. The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo is signed, and Juan cursed and raided Guadalupe Hidalgo.
Eduardo
I'm sorry. It's just.
Gareth Reynolds
Just.
Eduardo
I. I don't want to do this, but it just hurts.
Dave Anthony
It's why you're here.
Eduardo
Yeah, I get.
Dave Anthony
Yeah. But you're wrong. Juan curse and ridiculed it, feeling it was humiliating for Mexico. And he returned to his mother's land and his ranch. But his land is now.
Eduardo
He just went back to cried in his mansion.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
Yes.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. He just went back to ha. Like a quarter of a million acres. He was like, but they keep taking from me.
Dave Anthony
So his land's now in the US and he's living amongst the enemy that he hates. So he gets a job working for a contractor at Fort Brown. So now he's helping the army that he fought against. And he would help wagons trains going north. And the first one was 75 wagons. And Juan was put in charge of it. And a little way through, he gets into an argument with the wagon master.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, no, but you don't want to fuck with that guy.
Eduardo
No, he's the master of wagons.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Eduardo
Yep.
Dave Anthony
But he doesn't understand a lot of English. And when his boss arrives.
Gareth Reynolds
Sounds like a caron.
Eduardo
Yep.
Dave Anthony
When his boss arrives, Juan was quote aside the wagon master and choking him.
Eduardo
I mean, that's really the universal language.
Dave Anthony
Yes.
Gareth Reynolds
Choking the wagon master. You must listen to my wagon. Shut up.
Dave Anthony
The man's face was black and his tongue was protruding from his mouth. He was almost dead.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, shit.
Eduardo
Did not get fired, though, because Mexicans are awesome workers. That's because Mexicans are great workers. And even if we try to kill our masters, they still employ us. By the way, sorry about dropping the soap earlier.
Dave Anthony
I mean, you do a good job. What am I going to do? Sometimes you kill me.
Eduardo
Yep.
Dave Anthony
Happens. Very next job, hurting some mules. He gets into another argument and ended.
Gareth Reynolds
Up the mule daddy.
Dave Anthony
And he. And he kind of had a strike. He took a bunch of Mexican herders with him and they all walked off the job.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, wow.
Dave Anthony
But his boss still complimented him. Complimented him and said he had been faithful and effective. Next, he finds work with a guy, Kentuckian, to buy and drive 80 mules north to Kentucky.
Gareth Reynolds
Is that a distance?
Dave Anthony
Yes.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay. Yeah, you won't go about 80, 85 mules north. Take a ride. Go five mules.
Eduardo
I mean, you guys will use anything but the metric system. I don't get it.
Gareth Reynolds
Because it's better. You. You people should be switching. Come on. It's obvious.
Dave Anthony
It's about 14 Taco Bell South.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. It is so funny that we came up with it. We probably were like, everyone will come around. Everyone's like, no, it's fucking dumb.
Eduardo
Well, no, we can't come around because we don't know how long we have to go around because the fucking distance is measured in mules.
Dave Anthony
It makes sense if numbers don't matter.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Love of God, stop fighting it. We're right. We came up with a better one.
Eduardo
I mean, leave it to the country with, like, the worst math scores ever.
Dave Anthony
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, buddy.
Gareth Reynolds
We're just. We got rid of the Department of Education to get those up, first of all.
Eduardo
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
You ain't seen something yet.
Dave Anthony
What matters is what Jesus thinks.
Gareth Reynolds
He hated education.
Eduardo
Crazy town. Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
What's.
Dave Anthony
What's the circumference of a circle? Whatever Jesus wants it to be.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Boom.
Dave Anthony
Think about it.
Gareth Reynolds
Put that in your calcitator. Try that, Mats.
Dave Anthony
So just days into this drive, the Kentuckian is found dead. And some people said Juan had killed him.
Gareth Reynolds
I think he did.
Eduardo
I mean, they were just trying to talk and got out of hand.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
His very. Juan's very close friend Adolphus Glavacki sure. Said Juan took the mules and sold them to the army. So now Juan is indicted in Brownsville, but he's never apprehended.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay. And he's got a. He likes making money, obviously. And he's okay with killing.
Dave Anthony
It seems like months later, Juan is. Two of his friends are accused of robbing a wagon train and then stealing some sheep.
Gareth Reynolds
A wagon train?
Dave Anthony
Yeah, a train of wagons.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
Dave Anthony
And then stealing some sheep. A lot of people are wrestling at this point in the area after the war. And Brownsville is an awesome spot to bring goods in by ship and then smuggle them into Mexico without paying a tax.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
Eduardo
That still happens, by the way.
Gareth Reynolds
You said wrestling.
Dave Anthony
Wrestling. You know, cattle wrestling.
Gareth Reynolds
Uh huh.
Eduardo
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
You did this yesterday where you actually think that I'm talking about wrestling cows.
Gareth Reynolds
I'm hoping. What I'm doing is hoping. I'm hoping that they're coming up with characters.
Dave Anthony
No one is actually wrestling cows. It's wrestling yet. Yet, yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
It could be awesome.
Eduardo
I mean, isn't the head of the Department of Education from the wwe?
Dave Anthony
It's really not.
Gareth Reynolds
That just happened to you.
Dave Anthony
So the city is attracting those type of people who are involved in those kind of crimes. And a lot of Europeans are into that. And they come.
Eduardo
Europeans committing crimes.
Gareth Reynolds
You can imagine.
Eduardo
What is this?
Gareth Reynolds
It's crazy.
Dave Anthony
And they challenged Mexican Texans for control of the land. And Spanish land grants, which go back all the way to 1767, are now being disputed. And a lot of Mexican Texans never even knew their rights under the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. And their lack of English puts them in a really bad spot. And Several Americans just make a fortune on taking advantage of these people.
Gareth Reynolds
Imagine that still happens.
Eduardo
Just Americans making money taking advantage of people. Yeah, that still happens.
Dave Anthony
No. What?
Gareth Reynolds
I don't think that's fair.
Eduardo
No. All right.
Dave Anthony
We're talking about the past.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. That stopped a long time ago.
Eduardo
We're going back. I mean, measles is back.
Gareth Reynolds
Cause we want it back. Because the best way to get rid of measles is to make sure every kid gets it.
Eduardo
The dust bowl is coming back. I mean, we wanted the dust bowl.
Gareth Reynolds
We like dust. We're into it. These are all choices. It's called manifesting, dude.
Eduardo
I'm sorry, I'm just.
Gareth Reynolds
You just came here to shit on. We're doing good stuff.
Eduardo
No, I know. It's just weird for me as a Mexican to be on the other side of it.
Gareth Reynolds
What do you mean by that, asshole? Explain yourself. Take a Taco Bell.
Eduardo
Like, it's weird to gloat to Americans about stuff.
Dave Anthony
Like, it's.
Gareth Reynolds
I'm telling you, we will figure out.
Eduardo
The most reluctant applause.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, yeah, absolutely. We're fucking huge.
Eduardo
Because they're like, yeah, you're right. Oh, shit. You are right.
Gareth Reynolds
Mark my words, we will be climbing that wall. We're coming.
Dave Anthony
Yeah. If you take Mexican urine and you drink a Mexican urine, it will stop the measles.
Gareth Reynolds
Dave's thirsty, so. Right.
Eduardo
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
Go down to Mexico and into El Paso, and if you ask them. If you ask them for urine, rfk, give it to the young children.
Eduardo
Dave's RFK sounds healthy.
Dave Anthony
Well, not Basil, Dave.
Gareth Reynolds
It sounds like what happens to RFK during a full moon or something. It's like he's like, fully. Like.
Eduardo
That'S rfk, Pre warm. It's after, like, the baby, the bear that they. He dumped in New York, but before the worm.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pre worm.
Dave Anthony
That's why. That's why he did heroin. He was like, cuz, I can't. And then, oh, sweet Jesus, that's fucking good shit.
Gareth Reynolds
It definitely was the worm who was like, I'm a heroin addict too. He was like, well, that's not very good.
Eduardo
So he just likes that one vaccine.
Gareth Reynolds
And boy, howdy, did he. I take the flu shot every morning.
Dave Anthony
So Juan is now concerned about his mother's land. And he goes to this mass meeting in Brownsville on February 2, 1850. There's speakers there, and they're like, texas has no claim to this territory. And then everyone at the meeting signs a petition to create the Rio Grande territory, which would be separate from Texas, but they're Being duped by land speculators, basically. And it's a big scheme. And so Texas now creates a commission to look in all into all the land grants, right?
Eduardo
Because the whole thing goes back to, like, the Spanish game. And then they're like, this is ours. And then the native Mexicans were like, what the fuck? And now there's like, I don't know, hundreds of years later, somebody else is like, oh, well, that land is not for the Spanish anymore. Now it's for the Texans. And then the Texans are like, well, what the fuck is happening? And I don't know. It's still going on. It's weird. I'm confused.
Gareth Reynolds
That's where we want you.
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
Eduardo
Thank you.
Dave Anthony
Exactly where we want you.
Gareth Reynolds
That's right where we want you.
Dave Anthony
Take. Because. Because you guys got the cartel, so we're gonna have to take a lot of land and make a buffer zone.
Gareth Reynolds
So we're gonna have to fill it with Taco Bells. A couple hundred miles, about 600 mules.
Dave Anthony
That area is actually gonna be called the Taco Bell strip.
Eduardo
Yeah, Taco Bell Strip. All right. Yeah.
Dave Anthony
And you'll like it. You'll come to enjoy the bean burrito and the bell bean color. Have you had the Dorito shelled burritos Supreme?
Eduardo
I actually have had Doritos. Taco Loco, whatever.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, Locos.
Eduardo
Yeah. I'm ashamed to admit that I actually liked it.
Dave Anthony
Okay. We are finding common ground here, but.
Eduardo
I think it's just because I lack melanin.
Dave Anthony
He is a very white Mexican gentleman.
Eduardo
White Mexicans exist. We are called white chickens. And we are also the worst.
Dave Anthony
No. I have seen the white Latino all over South America where they seem to be in charge of everything, which is interesting.
Gareth Reynolds
We're still not letting you in. Nice try.
Dave Anthony
You cannot come in.
Gareth Reynolds
Nice try.
Dave Anthony
Son of a.
Gareth Reynolds
You got too white.
Dave Anthony
Juan's mother, Estefana, had to hire lawyers to fight for her land against claims now being made by these rich Brownsville guys. And the judge rules for her, but that pisses off the rich guys so much that the judge was impeached. Wow.
Eduardo
That still happens.
Dave Anthony
Yeah, it does.
Gareth Reynolds
Imagine.
Dave Anthony
But she still has to pay for the trial, defending her own land.
Gareth Reynolds
That's crazy.
Dave Anthony
And she has to use some of her land to pay the lawyers.
Gareth Reynolds
That's perfect.
Dave Anthony
And his. His ex, buddy Glavecki. Remember Adolphus? Right. Stood as a witness as she signed away a portion of her Brownsville land for $1 to the guys who had sued her, even though she won.
Eduardo
Right.
Gareth Reynolds
So it's perfect.
Eduardo
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
She's still.
Eduardo
Yeah. It's the American way.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. They win no matter what.
Dave Anthony
So Juan is fucking pissed at this conspiracy that's taken place. Quote, vile men in secret, in a secret conclave who took Mexicans land. And he does not believe the new Americans and the Mexicans could live in peace. So Brownsville's Anglo merchants wanted to create a free trade zone. These people always. What about a free market?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
Filibusters. Wanted to create a republic of Rio Grande in northeast Mexico. So that's a private country. They wanted to make Juan's cousin, Jose Maria de Jesus Carvajal.
Eduardo
That was actually pretty good. Wow.
Dave Anthony
Bam.
Eduardo
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
So Carvalho becomes the leader of a separatist movement bankrolled by merchants. And he raises an army of foreigner men and promises to return escaped slaves to Texas.
Gareth Reynolds
Cool. Or.
Eduardo
Oh, my God.
Dave Anthony
So he starts taking over towns. He's just a separate militia.
Gareth Reynolds
Sure.
Eduardo
Right.
Dave Anthony
And Juan defends Matamoros when they attack. And Carval is defeated. So he beats his cousin.
Gareth Reynolds
Nice.
Dave Anthony
In 1855, Juan resigns from the military as a lieutenant. And Brownsville is now a boom town. And laws were made to make it more civilized.
Eduardo
Did that work?
Dave Anthony
That never works. And one can't ride animals on sidewalks. And bathing is now regulated in the river.
Gareth Reynolds
Wait, what?
Dave Anthony
We're making laws to make the place more civilized. So you can't. You can't ride your fucking pig on a sidewalk.
Gareth Reynolds
And what's this last one?
Dave Anthony
You can't just bathe in the fucking river.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, you can't still. Come on.
Dave Anthony
And they tried to cut down on rowdy parties.
Gareth Reynolds
Jesus Christ.
Dave Anthony
Let's fucking kill that shit at like 10, right?
Gareth Reynolds
Well, if there's no rowdy parties, I'm not gonna bathe in the river.
Dave Anthony
Why would you? If you're not coming from rowdy party, why would you ride your pig on the sidewalk?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Is it riding pigs? Is that really what they're afraid of, I'm assuming?
Eduardo
I don't know. I don't think I've ever heard of Mexicans having rowdy parties. I don't think. I don't think that's a thing. I don't think anybody here has a neighbor who has like banda music playing at three in the morning.
Gareth Reynolds
No, you mean the culture that turned the accordion into a rock musician. How the fuck did they. Goddamn teenagers made accordion rock.
Eduardo
It's actually not bad. It's not right, but it's not bad.
Gareth Reynolds
It's not right. It's definitely not right.
Dave Anthony
Not a lot of Mexicans took part in the city government. Even though the population was mostly Mexican, the local priests called the rich in Brownsville, quote, the scum of society.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, well, yeah, exactly. We celebrate that.
Dave Anthony
Of all the rich, the one Juan came to hate the most with his.
Eduardo
The one. One what?
Dave Anthony
The one Juan that came to hate the most was his ex friend, Adolphus Glavaki.
Gareth Reynolds
I knew it.
Dave Anthony
The one who said he murdered a Kentucky and stole the livestock and then over his mother.
Eduardo
Yeah, that. Yeah, yeah.
Dave Anthony
Glavaki was in local politics. He'd been a bunch of different offices over the years. He was city alderman in 1857. But so many people didn't like him when he was city alderman that the council passed a resolution calling for him to be removed.
Gareth Reynolds
So they had to pass a law to get him out. Yeah, he's like, no, no, he's a dick. Yeah, right, okay.
Eduardo
So he was that much of a dick.
Gareth Reynolds
They're like, legally you fucking suck. Get out. Everyone who agrees that Adolphus is a fucking boner, get. Yes. Yeah.
Dave Anthony
I fucking hate that twat.
Gareth Reynolds
Come on.
Dave Anthony
Can we legally call him a twat?
Gareth Reynolds
Yes, granted. But be respectful, don't overuse it. Actually, no, we can't. Because I can see the look in your eyes right now, and you're gonna abuse the privilege.
Dave Anthony
I wanna ride it on a cybertruck.
Gareth Reynolds
We call that riding a pig down the sidewalk.
Dave Anthony
So when. When Glebecki and Juan had been friends, he had helped Juan's family with legal and financial matters. But Juan hated the conflict of interest during all that. And he once charged him with mismanagement and waste of his aunt's estate. And by 1858, they're now just pure fucking enemies. They just fucking hate each other. Nice. And Glovecki went before a grand jury and got three indictments against Juan for cattle stealing. One was a quote, brown spotted frizzly haired cow.
Gareth Reynolds
Yep, we know the type. Yeah, a brown frizzy. Yeah, absolutely.
Dave Anthony
And Juan began saying he would.
Eduardo
I know it's kind of stereotypical, but everything's been brown so far.
Dave Anthony
Here we go.
Eduardo
Fort Brown, Brownsville, brown cows.
Gareth Reynolds
I haven't noticed. I don't.
Dave Anthony
I don't know what you're talking about.
Eduardo
All right. No, it's fine.
Gareth Reynolds
Jesus. It's not all about race, dude, you're in America, okay? We're not all about race.
Dave Anthony
Yeah, please do not make this race war episode about race.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Eduardo
It'S about the new city's rights, right? It's not about.
Dave Anthony
It's about the free trade zone, man.
Eduardo
Of course it's about the free market.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So what if we're painting the black parts of our cows in this country? Don't worry about it.
Eduardo
It's fine.
Gareth Reynolds
Those are just the spots. It's just what we're doing. We're whitening them. Don't worry, buddy. Angel cows.
Dave Anthony
All cows are angel cows. Now, Juan began saying he would kill Adolphus on site.
Gareth Reynolds
Nice.
Dave Anthony
Now, there's a lot of inequality in the area. There were the rich guys, mostly white, who dressed really nice. And then most of the population, Mexican and poor, they're dressed in rags. They're living in huts. Juan is a ranchero, and he dresses nice, but he's related to the poor. And political situation very tense. And elections had a ton of.
Eduardo
I'm sorry, but is he a brown savior?
Dave Anthony
He's a bit of a brown savior, yeah. Okay. Elections have a ton of fraud. In 1850, 21 votes were cast before the polls opened.
Gareth Reynolds
But that's fine. That happens. Yeah, that's a pre vote. That happens.
Eduardo
No, that still happens in Mexico.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, it still happens here.
Dave Anthony
That. Yeah. That's just classic. Like, there's already some in here.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, my God. I already won before the ballots open. That's such a relief. That's like Putin. It's an honor to be a president again. The election's next week. It doesn't matter.
Dave Anthony
In Ramireno, a judge took the ballot box home. At the end of the day, that's fine, though.
Gareth Reynolds
Those are. Those. You're flagging that sort of stuff.
Eduardo
But did that happen in Florida in, like, 2000?
Dave Anthony
Yeah, it happened in Ohio in nineteen four.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, yeah. Both times, George W. Bush won. Oh, yeah. He didn't fucking win. Guys, look, we like winners. He won, obviously. Look how good of a job he did. Now he paints dogs in Crawford. Sorry, everybody. We like him. We do like him. He's great. Thank you. For him.
Eduardo
Should I just take the hat off now? I think it's going to his brain.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, just exposed brain. I'm fine.
Eduardo
Careful, they'll make you Secretary of Health.
Dave Anthony
So for elections, Mexican would. Mexicans would claim to be Americans. Just on and on. It's just tons of shit. So Anglos are still mostly winning elections, though. And Juan became involved in importing Mexicans to vote.
Gareth Reynolds
Hmm. This is truly, like, exactly what Trump is inventing.
Dave Anthony
Yes, it is.
Gareth Reynolds
We got a guy and he's bringing a bunch of Mexicans to vote, and they're voting for the liberal Democrats, and they're putting five to 10 of them inside of a donkey, bringing them across the. You see it a bunch of times. They're voting with drugs. They're bad hombres. They're all named Fentanyl. You've seen it a hundred times. I was talking to the CIA. They said, we don't know what to do. There's so many of them. I said, what can we do? They said, you got a new. The border.
Eduardo
I'm both horrified.
Gareth Reynolds
And so we're building a Taco Bell.
Eduardo
Oh, God. We're gonna pay for it.
Gareth Reynolds
Nachos. Belgrande with a dipping sauce.
Eduardo
Didn't he do, like, influencer marketing for, like, a can of beans last time around?
Dave Anthony
Yeah, he did.
Gareth Reynolds
It was a. I thought.
Dave Anthony
Yeah, yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
He was like. Is unbelievable.
Eduardo
So he hates beaners, but not beans. I don't get it. Yeah, I can say it. Okay.
Dave Anthony
Can you. Can you say it?
Eduardo
I shouldn't, but I can.
Gareth Reynolds
You're allowed to.
Dave Anthony
It's very.
Gareth Reynolds
When Dave said it backstage, that was offensive, though, that. Yeah. No, he had no right. He had no right. And we, again, are sorry.
Dave Anthony
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Gareth Reynolds
A little confused as to.
Dave Anthony
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Gareth Reynolds
I'll tell you what, I like a little bit of profit.
Dave Anthony
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Gareth Reynolds
What, for the yard stuff?
Dave Anthony
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Gareth Reynolds
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Gareth Reynolds
I can't. I'm not allowed to drive cars.
Dave Anthony
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Gareth Reynolds
Does he use it?
Dave Anthony
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Gareth Reynolds
My God, did this take a dark turn.
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Gareth Reynolds
Foot daddy.
Dave Anthony
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Gareth Reynolds
I'm tired.
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Gareth Reynolds
Many. Many.
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Gareth Reynolds
No way.
Dave Anthony
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Gareth Reynolds
So I'll jump in. Dave's saying Rocket Money is good to passively, aggressively fight with your. Your significant other.
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Gareth Reynolds
And then you go, oh. But then you go, well, there was to get rid of it too.
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Gareth Reynolds
And boy, were you mad.
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Gareth Reynolds
Oh, boy. How do you do it?
Dave Anthony
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Gareth Reynolds
No, it's nice to. It's good. My neck is. I'm getting a Rogan neck.
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Gareth Reynolds
Do you think Luke just came in here and just. Just kicked I record out of everything?
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Okay.
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Gareth Reynolds
Same.
Dave Anthony
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Gareth Reynolds
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Gareth Reynolds
The American Flag Newspaper.
Eduardo
Well, it's news, right? Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
My pillow guy. If the mypillow guy had a paper called the Flag of America.
Dave Anthony
Quote an hour before the election. They are fast friends. Mexicans, My very good friends.
Gareth Reynolds
Friends.
Dave Anthony
An hour after the election. They are a crowd of greasers.
Eduardo
Oh, yeah, sure. That's fine.
Gareth Reynolds
We're sorry.
Eduardo
It's not your fault.
Gareth Reynolds
No, but we didn't mean it. It's cool. We love. Look, you're not just Greasers, you're great.
Eduardo
No, it's okay. It's fine. I mean, that doesn't happen anymore. It's not like candidates nowadays tell people, oh, yeah, we like you, and then forget about them when they win. Right?
Gareth Reynolds
Not in this country. My man.
Eduardo
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Nope, nope. Fire everybody. Everybody's equal. It's called socialism. It's called communism.
Dave Anthony
It's called what?
Gareth Reynolds
Anarchism. I don't know.
Dave Anthony
Sorry. I'm trying to look up the pictures because they disappeared on me.
Eduardo
I mean, I get to go back to Mexico. It's your problem.
Gareth Reynolds
Never thought. Imagine 15 years ago, hearing that I get to go back to Mexico. People be like, what now? We're like, take me with you. What's it like?
Eduardo
Mills dot com. What the fuck? We saw your other tab.
Dave Anthony
The rest of the rest of my pictures didn't load, so whatever.
Gareth Reynolds
The what?
Dave Anthony
Most of the pictures didn't load, so just fucking deal with it.
Gareth Reynolds
So we're going to be. Well, if we're going to be on one picture, I think we all want.
Dave Anthony
To be on this guy. That's a good picture. So free alcohol flows. There's also intimidation and force at the polls. So Juan now becomes so through his working with the election guys, he becomes so influential that in 1859, he's appointed to the county Democratic committee even though he's still under indictment for murder and rustling.
Eduardo
Wow. Criminals in office, huh?
Gareth Reynolds
The Democrats, too.
Dave Anthony
Yeah. And now a lot of Mexicans are angry as their land is being taken through legal maneuvering and debt seizure and terrorism. So it's the whole place, like, the.
Gareth Reynolds
That's on the list. You know, debt stuff, Terrorists. It's all. We're just figuring it out.
Eduardo
I'm sorry, were the Mexicans burning Teslas or something? What.
Gareth Reynolds
To dare?
Dave Anthony
Yeah. Yeah, they were.
Gareth Reynolds
Even back then.
Eduardo
Even back then. Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
On July 13th, Juan rode into town to go to a saloon and a restaurant that he often went to. And in the street, he saw town marshal Robert Shears, who was an ex Texas Ranger, pistol whipping an old Mexican man who had once worked on Juan's mother's ranch. Now, Shears is from Kentucky, had a bad temper. He was known for chewing an excessive amount of tobacco and squinting his eyes in an annoying way.
Eduardo
I think, really, that's the worst part of it.
Dave Anthony
Yeah, that's it right there.
Gareth Reynolds
It's the Clint Eastwood.
Eduardo
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Used to be cute.
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Then it got, like, weird.
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
Eduardo
Like the pistol whipping. Fine, but the squinting.
Gareth Reynolds
I mean, he might not have known what he was. His eyes might have Been closed. And he might have just been. His gun might have jammed or something. We don't know.
Eduardo
It's also.
Gareth Reynolds
Don't even look at me like that again.
Eduardo
So very sunny in Brownsville. Like, it is.
Dave Anthony
It is sunny. Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. You got to get a squint on.
Dave Anthony
Juan asked him why he was beating the guy.
Gareth Reynolds
That's a really funny first start. Like, instead of stopping it to be like, what's going on? That guy's face is smashed. You broke a old man's head.
Dave Anthony
And Juan didn't like the answer. So he, quote, quote, Juan, he answered me insolently, and I punished his insolence and avenged my countrymen by shooting him with a pistol and stretching him at my feet.
Gareth Reynolds
Easy does it, Aurora.
Eduardo
I'm sorry.
Gareth Reynolds
Easy does it.
Eduardo
I don't know what got in to me.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
And then Juan. Juan pulled the beaten man onto his horse and rode out of town with him. And as he did, all the Mexicans jeered, woo, woo. The marshal was not dead. He.
Eduardo
Wait.
Dave Anthony
What? The marshal would recover, and Juan rode to Matamoros. And then a 25 man posse was put together to hunt Juan. But by the time it came to riot, out of town, only five would go.
Gareth Reynolds
What happened there? Just cold feet or they just were.
Dave Anthony
Like, they're scared of Juan.
Gareth Reynolds
They're scared of Juan. Okay. Right.
Dave Anthony
Juan Cortino is now a hero to poor and underprivileged Mexicans on both sides of the border. And he was indicted in Brownsville for attempted murder. So he brings his family to Mexico, and in Mexico, he is now given a captain's commission in the federal army.
Eduardo
Yeah, I get it.
Dave Anthony
Yeah, I get it, too.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
He starts recruiting men, and he soon had 100 men. And he swore to get revenge on the sheriff and every man who had joined his posse.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, shit. So that's why the 20 didn't show up. They're like, technically, I did not do it. So.
Eduardo
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
So Glavecki is now deputy sheriff, and he's pretty sure Juan just wants to kill him.
Eduardo
So what gave it away?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Eduardo
Was it the part where he said, I'll kill you next time I see you?
Gareth Reynolds
Or when he tried to kill him?
Eduardo
I don't know, man. Mixed signals. It's weird.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
Yeah. On September 28, 1859, Juan Cortina and 70 men crossed the Rio Grande at 4am and his men would become known as Cortinis. Cortinistas.
Gareth Reynolds
Cortin.
Eduardo
Cortinistas.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, yeah.
Eduardo
The corners.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, yeah. Cortinistas.
Eduardo
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
And they entered Brownsville shouting, quote, viva Chino Cortina.
Eduardo
Yeah, that's fine.
Dave Anthony
What's chino mean?
Eduardo
Chino?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, it's a pant.
Eduardo
No, Chino is like a Chinese.
Dave Anthony
It's a what?
Eduardo
Chinese. Whoever has like a. You know.
Gareth Reynolds
You're lying.
Eduardo
If their eyes are vaguely Asian, we call them Chinese in Mexico. I'm not proud of it, but it happens.
Gareth Reynolds
Are you being serious?
Eduardo
I am being serious.
Dave Anthony
You're fucking serious right now?
Gareth Reynolds
No, no. He's setting a trap for the whites. Don't fall in it.
Eduardo
I am fucking serious. No, I am serious.
Gareth Reynolds
No, no, no, no.
Eduardo
I am serious.
Dave Anthony
So they're running across the border going, go Chink. What the fuck's happening right now?
Gareth Reynolds
That's the end of the show. Not tonight's forever.
Dave Anthony
I I f. So much for the good guys.
Eduardo
Look, we're not all perfect.
Dave Anthony
Okay, well.
Gareth Reynolds
Lo siento. I don't know where to go. I don't know how to. I don't think you're allowed to be racist. Is that correct? I don't know how it works.
Eduardo
It's wrong. It's wrong.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, okay, we can do it. I just to being clear that. Oh, yeah, sure, it's kind of a philosophy here.
Eduardo
No, I mean, for some reason we just. Anybody who has like, my wife has like squinty eyes, I don't think we're.
Gareth Reynolds
Allowed to have this conversation. I'll be honest with you.
Dave Anthony
Your wife has squinty eyes.
Gareth Reynolds
I don't think you're allowed to say it. I don't know if that's the term.
Dave Anthony
But do you call a chino around?
Eduardo
No, I don't.
Gareth Reynolds
But you're thinking it all the time, aren't you? You're just sitting there thinking, chino. Chino. You just disgusting racist. No, but they used to a white and I'm a white.
Eduardo
They used to call my mother in law China.
Dave Anthony
What the is happening?
Gareth Reynolds
That's just. China's pronounced improperly.
Eduardo
Because she had like. No, because we have masculine and feminine form. So Chino is for men, Gina.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, yeah. I love how your racism is even dramatically created. So what?
Eduardo
If you're gonna be racist, at least get your grammar right. Gareth.
Gareth Reynolds
If you call hey, Gino, it's Gina. Get it right. It's insulting. I'm a woman.
Eduardo
Respect their pronouns while you're being racist, please.
Gareth Reynolds
I'm a milf. I am a Chino. Why are we walking around with pants like the chino? What? We shouldn't be doing that. No, no, none of it's that changes everything.
Dave Anthony
No, these are my racist pants.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
Hey, honey, you see my racist pants?
Gareth Reynolds
I want to go troll some people. You see my misogynist shorts? The ones that camel toe right up front? Want to go troll the libs at a hot dog stand? Where are my moose knucklers?
Eduardo
Oh, my God. Mexico was doing so well up until now.
Gareth Reynolds
We need to build a wall.
Eduardo
Guess who's gonna build that wall if it gets built?
Dave Anthony
Chinos.
Gareth Reynolds
No, dude, no, no. Don't say chinos.
Eduardo
No, they just.
Dave Anthony
The Mexicans and the Americans agree. The chinos should build a fucking wall.
Eduardo
They did build the railroad.
Gareth Reynolds
Stop talking. In what pants?
Eduardo
Mexicanos. Y. They were wearing Mexicanos.
Gareth Reynolds
Mexicano pants.
Eduardo
I'm just going to curl up in here and. Yeah, we'll see you guys later.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, that's why it's great that these rotate, so you could sort of. It's kind of like the voice.
Eduardo
Mine doesn't.
Gareth Reynolds
Dave, when you say something I like, I'll turn around to see who said it.
Dave Anthony
Viva Mexico.
Eduardo
Anyway, where were we?
Dave Anthony
Well, we were just coming together in our horrific racism.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, there was just a race off that.
Eduardo
I mean, that just happens when you get three guys together on stage.
Dave Anthony
And they also chanted, maran los gringos.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, that's racist.
Dave Anthony
Maran los gringos.
Eduardo
Los gringos.
Dave Anthony
Kill. Kill the gringos. I think, right?
Eduardo
What's happening?
Dave Anthony
How do you say kill the gringos? Yeah, how do you say it? Say it into the microphone. Kill the gringos.
Eduardo
Gringos say kill.
Gareth Reynolds
Whitey. Say it.
Eduardo
Martin. El blancito.
Gareth Reynolds
Say it in English, too.
Dave Anthony
Comfortable with that.
Eduardo
What? I'm sorry. D.
Dave Anthony
So the poor of the city joined the attack. And Juan's Raiders were in small parties of four or five, each with a specific person they were seeking to kill.
Eduardo
So he's just hit squads.
Dave Anthony
Yeah, yeah, he's got. He's. Yeah, he's got. He's got. Squads, death squads. So they tried to raise the Mexican flag over the town, but they couldn't find a rope.
Gareth Reynolds
Imagine.
Eduardo
Because, yeah, the whites had all the ropes. I'm sorry, what?
Gareth Reynolds
They're in use or pending use. We're having a great. A great rope shortage.
Dave Anthony
Glovacci hid in a store on Levy street as the Carnistas took guns, ammo, booze and horses from homes. He kept control of Brownsville for a day and then he rode out of town. He was now the first man to strike back against the racist society that many Tejanos believe was evil.
Eduardo
I mean, you gotta fight fire with fire, right?
Dave Anthony
I agree.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. But Then we look at it like someone came at us with fire out of nowhere.
Dave Anthony
What the hell happened?
Gareth Reynolds
We were sitting around doing nothing our fires allowed.
Dave Anthony
That night, he gathered more men on the border, about 200, and said he wouldn't attack again if he could bring his livestock and personal property into Mexico, but also that he would, quote, kill those who had offended him once the opportunity offered.
Gareth Reynolds
See, that's quite a second part of that. I want peace. Just allow me to cross the border in peace. Okay, we will. Plus, I have a kill list, and I plan on hitting him.
Eduardo
I'm done with the retribution, I think it's called. Right?
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
Eduardo
All right, that's cool.
Dave Anthony
Men came to negotiate, but Juan was very adamant that he was going to kill his enemies.
Gareth Reynolds
That is.
Eduardo
I mean, we're really talking. Remember, this guy is five, six. Like, he's.
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
Eduardo
Have you ever seen a Chihuahua? Like, have you ever seen a little Chihuahua dog just barking at a pit bull or something?
Dave Anthony
I have six.
Eduardo
I mean, I'm, like, slightly taller than he is. Like five. I'm like six two.
Gareth Reynolds
Now you're not. See, that's why you got to get to the metric system.
Eduardo
God damn it.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, you're lost right now, baby. You're lost.
Eduardo
Yeah, I'm five, eight. That's fine.
Gareth Reynolds
I do like going over to negotiate with him, and he's like, I'm going to kill him. So what if you just.
Eduardo
I mean, remember when we. When he talked to the wagon master, he choked him near to death.
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, yeah. He turned. Yeah. He was, like, on death's door.
Dave Anthony
He doesn't take shit.
Gareth Reynolds
No. And he killed the other guy, too.
Dave Anthony
So when he wrote into Matamoros, he was greeted as a hero. And then he issued a. A pronunciament.
Eduardo
Pronunciamiento. Pronunciamiento, yeah. Ironically, pronunciar is also, you know, how you say words, so it's like a proclamation, but it's also like the same word is used for how you pronounce words, which you. Not pronouncing it right is just amazing.
Gareth Reynolds
You know, I really feel like I'm living inside of Duolingo tonight.
Eduardo
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
Let me tell you something. I did not expect here to be treated like this in Trump's America.
Gareth Reynolds
You're a white man under attack, huh, brother?
Dave Anthony
This is exactly what we've been talking about.
Gareth Reynolds
Let me ask you this. The way I pronounce it.
Eduardo
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
As a white man.
Gareth Reynolds
All right, well, take it easy.
Dave Anthony
It's the way it's pronounced.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
Eduardo
Anyway, he said something, and then.
Gareth Reynolds
That'S the way a lot when you take them out of the bubble and they say what they say they're just like a weirdo shouting like, all right, Grandpa, look, get off the chair. Because they tried to take it away from me. I'm a white. All right, sir, listen. This is a Cracker Barrel. Sit down. I have waffles.
Eduardo
Is that where they all meet? At the Cracker Barrel?
Gareth Reynolds
I mean, well, if you can't afford Golden Corral.
Eduardo
Yeah, not in this economy, Gary.
Dave Anthony
Eventually, they'll all be at Denny's.
Eduardo
So basically, he just said. Yeah. He said, fuck everybody. And that was it, right? Yeah.
Dave Anthony
In the pronunciamento.
Eduardo
That's better.
Dave Anthony
Which basically said that he, as a US Citizen would fight the land speculators, and then Mexicans living in Texas would defend themselves to the death.
Eduardo
Brownsville Mexican citizens were like, we're doing what to the what?
Gareth Reynolds
Hey, we didn't all.
Eduardo
No, I just came here for the booze and the horses. What the fuck is happening?
Gareth Reynolds
I want to be home by 4.
Dave Anthony
Brownsville's postmaster said Juan was, quote, formally proclaiming a war of races.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Yep.
Dave Anthony
Nothing wrong with that.
Eduardo
I mean, at least it was formal, you know?
Dave Anthony
Hey, Luke, can I get another thingamadoodle? Thank you.
Gareth Reynolds
I'll have one while we're having.
Dave Anthony
By the way, Luke's at our merch table back there, and we have a.
Eduardo
Everybody say, hi, Luke. Hi, Luke.
Gareth Reynolds
Hi, Luke.
Eduardo
If you see Luke, give him a snack. He likes him.
Gareth Reynolds
You heard about the snack today in the van?
Eduardo
No.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, my God.
Dave Anthony
Holy.
Eduardo
What did he do? Dude, what happened?
Dave Anthony
So we have a little segment on the Patreon called Luke eats snacks and people send the worst things you can eat. And some Sophia Lopez from El Monte, California sent.
Gareth Reynolds
We'll never forget her name for what she. It was a crime, what she did to us.
Dave Anthony
It's a Chinese chino. It's a chino. Come on.
Gareth Reynolds
No.
Dave Anthony
Come on.
Eduardo
No.
Dave Anthony
Come on. You're married to one.
Gareth Reynolds
You're allowed to say it.
Eduardo
Not in bed anymore.
Dave Anthony
Smelled before the box was opened.
Gareth Reynolds
Smelled she sent. It was like fermented tofu or something.
Dave Anthony
Yes, but then.
Gareth Reynolds
But even. It's. It's. We can't do it justice, but, no.
Eduardo
It needs no justice.
Dave Anthony
When the seal was cracked, I almost vomited in the van, but it was.
Gareth Reynolds
Open, and it was the worst thing I've ever smelled. Without question, ever. We were in a van. Like, we were not in, like, a location. We could leave.
Dave Anthony
That's the kind of thing you would throw in a cyber truck.
Gareth Reynolds
And then the cybertruck would just turn into dust.
Eduardo
So this woman scent looked like a biological weapon.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes, yes, yes. And I'm like, Covid. The next Covid. And he took a spoonful of it. He actually ate it, tried to eat it.
Dave Anthony
And I am almost vomiting.
Gareth Reynolds
We're all almost vomiting. He almost threw up in a liquid death box. The irony. And. And. And we had. We literally had to pull over and go to a gas station and fill the car with air fresheners, open all.
Dave Anthony
The doors, and he bought, like. I'm not kidding, like, 20 air fresheners.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, I mean, you. We had to attack. We were. We were attacked. And we're Americans. We strike back with real force.
Dave Anthony
That's right.
Gareth Reynolds
And then we threw it out. And Luke, we were like, two hours later, like, it's nice. The smell's gone. And he was like, it's still in my beard, and I can taste it. Well, that's. I mean, you are the one who put it in your mouth, to be honest with you.
Dave Anthony
So it's literally a biological weapon.
Gareth Reynolds
It was the worst. I don't know how you get to be this old and not know about the worst thing on earth. Like, there is a new category of the worst thing on earth.
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
It's the only thing he's not been able to swallow. And believe me, I've tested it.
Eduardo
This is a family show.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. I met a family. In his throat.
Eduardo
Oh, my God.
Dave Anthony
Oh, fuck.
Eduardo
We're having fun.
Dave Anthony
So in Brownsville, they said all the raiders were Mexican, and the city is now in a state of fucking panic.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
No one knew who to trust. They made barricades out of 80,000 bricks. And at night.
Gareth Reynolds
So they.
Eduardo
They built a wall.
Gareth Reynolds
Isn't it amazing that the technology hasn't changed? We're still like, hey, you gotta build a. But it has to be really tall. That's all we've got. Yeah. They. Fuck. It's gotta be more bricks. Bigger, taller wall.
Eduardo
Oh, my God.
Gareth Reynolds
We haven't thought of the wall tall enough.
Dave Anthony
At night, the Anglos huddled in the central part of town. The American flag paper quote to the American press. Brownsville had become Fort Gringo.
Gareth Reynolds
I'm even a little confused by that one.
Eduardo
Yep. So they're trying to reclaim the word, I think.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, Right?
Eduardo
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
The G word.
Eduardo
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
They sent a message to Mexican General Carvajal asking for help. And he said, are you there?
Gareth Reynolds
Help?
Dave Anthony
Help. And he sent 50 militiamen from Matamoros to Brownsville to protect U.S. citizens. So, baby, thank you. So now, so now the.
Eduardo
Thanks, Luke.
Gareth Reynolds
Thank you, Luke. You know what?
Eduardo
Now that you mentioned it, I can. I could smell it.
Dave Anthony
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, you smell weird.
Gareth Reynolds
That's just the regular hum.
Dave Anthony
That's his normal odor. Right. So they've asked the Mexican general for help. He sent men. So now Mexican military are in Brownsville to protect the scared gringos from the American with the militia.
Gareth Reynolds
It's a little backwards.
Eduardo
Yeah, no, it's fine.
Dave Anthony
It's fucking crazy.
Eduardo
So.
Dave Anthony
They also appealed to the Texas state government and President Buchanan. So more. As is going on, more people are joining Juan because he seems like a badass at this point. So the villages along the Rio Grande and even from the interior of Mexico are all starting coming over to his side. Quote, some were almost naked.
Gareth Reynolds
Why? Is there a reason?
Eduardo
Yeah, we were ready to party.
Gareth Reynolds
Playing that goddamn accordion rock. Why naked? Is that just sort of.
Dave Anthony
They just didn't have any money and they couldn't buy clothes. They literally had nothing.
Gareth Reynolds
Is that right?
Eduardo
I mean, I had nothing but a dream.
Dave Anthony
I mean, that's how it is in my movie.
Gareth Reynolds
I read that script and I've told you that someone has to have money in it. We will build a wall.
Dave Anthony
We will.
Eduardo
No, it's a barricade of bricks. It's not a wall.
Dave Anthony
In Corpus Christi Ranchero, it said he was taking advantage of, quote, idle, vicious, depraved, thievish, ignorant and fanatical population.
Eduardo
But was he running for president when he said all this?
Dave Anthony
But he did get 6,000 in donations from people in the Matamoros and in D.C. and Austin, they have no idea what the fuck is happening. The border is very complicated.
Eduardo
Imagine I like how one guy laughed that Austin had no idea what was happening.
Dave Anthony
The border is very complicated. The Texas Senate wanted the governor to send a thousand Texas Rangers, but the governor's not sure if he should do that. And by October wanted taking his army to his mom's land.
Gareth Reynolds
Which sounds like a really weird thing.
Eduardo
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Going to take the army to my mom's land.
Dave Anthony
Mummy Hills.
Eduardo
Your motherland.
Gareth Reynolds
Motherland?
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
You mean Mexico. I agree.
Dave Anthony
So he sets up fortified camps on his mom's land.
Gareth Reynolds
It doesn't sound manly.
Dave Anthony
Sorry. He sets up 40 fortified camps on his mommy's land.
Gareth Reynolds
Better. And he say, on his MILF's land.
Dave Anthony
It's not his. He's not fucking his mom.
Gareth Reynolds
Hey.
Eduardo
Somebody else was.
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Some of us are getting there in a different way. Let us go, babe.
Dave Anthony
And they even send out groups and they would take control of local villages. He spends a lot Most of his time in Matamoros, where he just walks down the streets and is treated as a hero. And then Brownsville concluded they are safe, and the Mexican militia leaves. And then the sheriff and Glovacki arrest one of Juan's best friends near his ranch. And Juan said if he is not released, he would, quote, lay the town in ashes.
Gareth Reynolds
So let him go. That's what you do. You let him go without question.
Dave Anthony
Let him go?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. You're not like, well, I don't know. This guy seems like a fucking wimp.
Dave Anthony
Yeah. And in Brownsville, people said they would rather die than release him. So Juan attacks. He attacks with 40 men in broad daylight, just shooting into the town.
Eduardo
Did he attack just the Juan time?
Gareth Reynolds
It's literally all I keep thinking about. The amount of times I'm like, uh huh. Yeah. There was just Juan of them.
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
Eduardo
I'm asking you to just release my Juan friend.
Gareth Reynolds
It's Juan friend.
Dave Anthony
And the mayor had gotten a howitzer from a steamboat.
Gareth Reynolds
What?
Dave Anthony
It's how you fucking do things. Yeah. You go to the boat and you go, can I get a machine gun?
Gareth Reynolds
Absolutely. We are a steamboat. Why wouldn't we have a howitzer on here? Here you go. Anything else you want? Grenades, Nukes.
Dave Anthony
And he asked the Mexican military for help. And they brought a cannon.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, not a howitzer.
Dave Anthony
So the Brownsville Public Safety Committee, who are just basically rich assholes, created the Brownsville Tigers militia, and they put in charge a Scottish sailor.
Gareth Reynolds
Fuck. Yeah, they did.
Eduardo
What the fuck is happening?
Gareth Reynolds
I'll tell you what the fuck is happening. This shit just got fucking real. What? It makes perfect sense.
Eduardo
I mean, Juan was barely starting to understand American English, and then you send.
Gareth Reynolds
There's not going to be a problem with any accents in this one. I'm speaking perfectly clearly 1. I think you can understand every part of it. You what? No, I don't understand that much. But listen, what you got to do is come around the back. That's the zone, mate. They look it up that way. You come back around, you go, oh, no, not that.
Eduardo
No, seriously, what the are you saying?
Gareth Reynolds
No talking about anything like that. I got a bit like that, right? She come around the corner, he's got a bit of squirt. You go, oh, my God. What are you. Got a bit of a chino.
Eduardo
Wow.
Gareth Reynolds
Don't say worry me like that. I'm allowed to say I'm married to one. It's absolutely bloody fine, isn't it? Anyway, what was he up to then? Got a bit of the sneaky boys. Haven't I? Tell you what, you want to find out. It's authentic. Skirts. And have a look underneath, see if you've got the real saga. Bagpipes. Bad news, mate. The humidity's not played well upon me. Christ Almighty. I've got to sit down there for a orchestra, I'll tell you that much. Have a look, see? Oh, sick and tired of me talking, are you? Fighting the back of your little thing, then go on.
Eduardo
Again, I am both impressed and horrified.
Dave Anthony
So they are joined. The Brownsville Tigers, led by the Scottish.
Gareth Reynolds
Guy, are joined me. I've got this.
Dave Anthony
Are joined by 75 Mexican militia.
Gareth Reynolds
As we said. Must have been amazing.
Dave Anthony
And they attack Juan at his ranch. And the howitzer and the cannon fail.
Gareth Reynolds
I can't believe we've been unable to do it with the whip and starch. This. Aye.
Eduardo
This has never happened to me before. I must be nervous.
Gareth Reynolds
Got a bit of stage fright.
Eduardo
Let's just rub each other's backs.
Gareth Reynolds
Unfortunately, before we got near his house, I shot everything all over. So nervous. It's a compliment if you think about it. I was so excited to take him that when I got there, I just finished right into the hill. Give me 10 minutes to reload. Maybe we can have another go. Yeah, let me have another shot, please.
Eduardo
You promised me a Loch Ness monster.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, what can I tell you? You got a baby shark. Apologies.
Dave Anthony
So they attack Juan at his ranch. The howitzer and cannon fail and they push the howitzer into the river to stop Juan's men from taking it.
Gareth Reynolds
That is where you know you're fucked.
Eduardo
Yeah, you're just dumping shit into the water.
Gareth Reynolds
Hide the weapons from the other guys. Hide our best weapon from our opponent.
Dave Anthony
The Tiger's muskets wouldn't fire because it was drizzling.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, my God. So fucking sad. By the way, I've had that happen before as well. I need to have a dry condition, otherwise the musket won't shoot properly.
Eduardo
That's kind of. It's a paradox, right? You have to be dry to get wet.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, is that. Well, absolutely, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Chafing, all that. Yeah. You want the right amount of wet, but too much. All of a sudden, you're slipping in and out, don't know where you're going. Bing, bang, back door. Oopsie, poopsie. Oh, it's happened. It's happened. They're about 2 inches apart. You get confused. Sorry about that. Don't blame me. That was God's design. He should have put one in the centre of the chest. If he wanted it to be clear. Life's a bloody riddle. And so are the genies. The Jennies. The Jennies.
Eduardo
And they let this guy run the army?
Gareth Reynolds
Hey, trust me. Whoa.
Dave Anthony
I'm just really hard.
Eduardo
Yeah. Because that's what he needs. Encouragement.
Gareth Reynolds
You think that guy's. Even when that guy dies, he's a zombie. Okay. Trust me.
Dave Anthony
So they also discovered that their cartridges are too big for their muskets. So they end up fleeting, fleeing in panic. A tiger quote. Our men commenced arriving in town, some on foot, others on horses and mules and asses almost sorry. Mostly double. And many of them without arms.
Eduardo
There was just one guy who rode in on a pig. It was weird.
Gareth Reynolds
I rode in on a fucking ass once with no arms. Junior college.
Dave Anthony
In the. In the battle, Juan Cortina had lost two men and several were wounded. The Tigers lost one man. The Cortinistas pulled the howitzer from the river and had the cannon.
Gareth Reynolds
I mean, in retrospect, tossing it all in the river isn't really great. Like, they were like, oh, we got it. It's in the river.
Dave Anthony
Maybe it was a bad idea to have a Scottish sailor lead the land fight.
Gareth Reynolds
You watch your fucking mouth, mate. I'm sorry. I thought the river would take the Howlet so far down there.
Dave Anthony
They also got gunpowder and other ammo. Now, Juan told the squinting sheriff and Glivecki to meet him on the battlefield. Or quote, I am about to march upon the town and have sufficient force and artillery to batter down the houses. And then he started shooting off the cannon every morning at 6am to freak out everyone in Brownsville.
Eduardo
That's how you do it. Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Every morning he's like, he's fucking trolling me. He is showing off.
Dave Anthony
All this led to more recruits joining Juan's army. And they came not just because they hated the gringos, but also because Juan is very charismatic and a leader. 75% are very poor men from Mexico, and they fly the Mexican flag at his camp even though it's a. Oh, they found rope.
Eduardo
Nice.
Gareth Reynolds
It was in the river. Get rid of this as well. Actually, I might go under for a bit. The river's magic.
Dave Anthony
The Brownsville Tigers went to Corpus Christi and said crazed cortanistas had taken Brownsville and executed all of the Tigers. Sorry. A Brownsville tiger. So one guy goes up to Corpus Christi is like, there's a slaughter. Everybody's dead.
Eduardo
They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats.
Gareth Reynolds
The one sending the most paranoid message, they're eating dogs. They took Our jobs. They ate the cats. One of the guys ate me. I'm dead.
Eduardo
And then that guy founded Whataburger. Yeah.
Dave Anthony
So headlines now spread across the world and the Corpus Christi Guards Militia is quickly formed. And the editor of the Ranchero warned a quote, idle, vicious, depraved, thievish, ignorant and fanatical population was on the loose and they must be crushed.
Eduardo
I think he missed some adjectives. I think he didn't use them all.
Dave Anthony
Fucked. Bullshit. They believe one had 900 men who swore to kill every white man and take all land up to the Colorado River.
Gareth Reynolds
It's just disgusting when you hear about that sort of racist shit. It's just so hard. Yeah, it's just taking white man.
Eduardo
You guys. You guys have been through so much.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, we have. I mean, people keep trying to take the stuff we took. It's like, stop.
Eduardo
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Stop it.
Eduardo
It's not fair.
Dave Anthony
This is a classic story of how we tried to be nice to Mexicans.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes.
Eduardo
Right.
Dave Anthony
And then they're all making it about race.
Gareth Reynolds
We give you the gift of Taco Bell and you reject it. We accept, though. We accept. Oh, you're. Yeah.
Dave Anthony
What about. What about Del Taco?
Eduardo
Nobody likes Del Taco.
Gareth Reynolds
What the. I got bad news. We got the biggest. Del Taco.
Eduardo
Oh, is he the one guy keeping it in business?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, he's the one guy.
Dave Anthony
How dare you? How dare you?
Eduardo
Oh, my God.
Gareth Reynolds
He walks in and they wake up off a cot. They're like, oh, shit, someone's here. Hey, how are you? You know, this is a Taco Bell. Oh, cool.
Dave Anthony
All right.
Gareth Reynolds
What do you want? Yeah, we're excited.
Dave Anthony
Writers were sent to communities all over the west to warn them and find volunteers. So they think he has 900 men? Like, they think he's a giant army. The New Orleans Daily True Delta paper quote, we are being warred upon by atrocious savages who would as soon beat out the brains of an infant as shoot an undoubted spy. It is a war upon the American race and its full extent, no one knows.
Eduardo
So you guys have had the same press secretary since then?
Gareth Reynolds
You gotta love how we turn America into a race.
Dave Anthony
Like, also like we are.
Eduardo
Well, that's why they won, Right? Just the one race.
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
I mean, it really is nuts.
Dave Anthony
It's nuts.
Eduardo
I mean, it's pronounced nueces. I'm sorry.
Gareth Reynolds
Nueces.
Dave Anthony
Yeah, nueces.
Gareth Reynolds
It really is nueces.
Eduardo
Thank you.
Gareth Reynolds
No, no, no. Gracias.
Eduardo
Then. Other.
Gareth Reynolds
Huh.
Dave Anthony
So now. So now all over Texas, they're envisioning this murderous serape wearing Mexicans coming to kill everybody. And plans were made to.
Eduardo
I mean, honestly, it's because serapis or serapes are so comfortable. Like, you really feel like wanting to kill somebody when you put on one of them.
Gareth Reynolds
Say it. Dave.
Dave Anthony
I don't know if you've seen Clint Eastwood, but those are ours if you don't.
Gareth Reynolds
Chino.
Dave Anthony
Don't Chino on me, motherfucker.
Gareth Reynolds
I don't even know what we're allowed to say and not say anymore, to be quite honest with you.
Dave Anthony
But. But those are ours. Like, we took them back in the seventies, in the Westerns.
Gareth Reynolds
We took them.
Eduardo
You took them back? Yeah. And then we didn't reclaim them because we're like, oh, yeah, sure, you can have them. I mean.
Gareth Reynolds
Exactly. And now we. Now we wear them in Sedona.
Eduardo
Exactly. You can keep them there now.
Gareth Reynolds
I don't want them. He's trying to trick us.
Dave Anthony
No, they're ours.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Yeah.
Dave Anthony
We took them.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. We won. Usa. American race.
Eduardo
We won. I'm scared.
Gareth Reynolds
It's pretty straightforward, dude. Everything we do is right. Everything you do is wrong.
Dave Anthony
Okay? Just. Just admit that you took an L.
Eduardo
Yeah, no, it's okay. I'm sorry, dad.
Dave Anthony
All right.
Gareth Reynolds
I don't know why I'm getting angrier. I mean, I don't know. It's crazy. I'm furious right now.
Eduardo
The hat.
Gareth Reynolds
That's not helping. I'm pink hot right now, dude.
Dave Anthony
So people are making plans to invade Mexico, and then on October 16, John Brown attacked Harpers Ferry, Virginia. And in Texas, they thought this. In Texas, they're like, this has to be connected to Juan Cortina's race war.
Gareth Reynolds
That's so fucking John. Brownsville.
Dave Anthony
God damn it. They're attacking us, whites everywhere.
Gareth Reynolds
A white guy attacking whites? Like, oh, no, it's airborne.
Eduardo
Wait, did the same guy that went to Corpus Christi went up and said, like, they're attacking Virginia now.
Dave Anthony
What the fuck? And then wildfires break out across northern Texas.
Eduardo
Oh, that still happens.
Dave Anthony
And the San Antonio Daily Herald says this has to be connected to the race war. There's just wildfires breaking out for no reason.
Eduardo
I like how they're so afraid. Afraid of somebody that's not them. Like, they're so afraid of somebody who's not white that they turned him into a wizard somehow.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Eduardo
He's just starting fires from a distance, like from hundreds of miles away. I don't know. It's amazing.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
The Mexicans have a dragon. Yeah. Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
There's just. It's always. It's just like Alex Jones was the first guy to put it online. They've been like, they've been doing it the whole time. You know, you got these Mexicans now, they're running like, rampant. They got big old wizard staffs and they're shooting their wizard staffs. They turn John Brown, last name Brown. Not a white guy, obviously. They turned him into a. Look at guys, a shape shifting. All right, he's a shape shifting man. Obviously. They're lighting fires. They're doing it. John Brown, Mexican. They're coming here. They're taking our Taco Bells. They're rejecting them. Taco Bell, by the way, new Pizzagate.
Eduardo
I think I like this Scottish guy better.
Gareth Reynolds
All right. It's not a problem.
Dave Anthony
Can't you see in the next, like, couple years that they think that Mexicans are invading through tunnels under Taco Bells? Couldn't you see them saying that?
Gareth Reynolds
Yes.
Eduardo
Oh, no joke. Like a couple months ago, about half a mile from where our studio is, they found a tunnel. People were just being smuggled down there. It was fun. We lost the revenue stream, but we'll recover.
Dave Anthony
So an old general decides it's time to take action and to send troops from Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.
Gareth Reynolds
This is to the old general.
Dave Anthony
Yeah, like he's.
Eduardo
Kansas is already getting into it.
Gareth Reynolds
They always are ready to get into it. Well, time to crack the knuckles. Went back, boys.
Dave Anthony
But three days later, he messages Washington, Washington, D.C. and says no, Actually, it seems like none of that stuff is happening. And he called the rumors, quote, mostly false, but the Texas Rangers are already on their way.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
Eduardo
Have you read the room?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
You're about to learn.
Eduardo
I forgot it became illegal like this.
Gareth Reynolds
We can't read the room anymore. A literate the room.
Dave Anthony
So 60 Rangers arrive outside of Brownsville at 11pm on Nov. 10 and blow their bugle. And the good people of Brownsville then start shooting at them.
Eduardo
That still happens.
Gareth Reynolds
Checkmate, bruh.
Dave Anthony
So Ranger had to sneak in around the back and get into Brownsville. And he explained that they're actually Rangers. And then they were, quote, heartily welcomed by the citizens.
Eduardo
We're on your side. Oh, all right. Sorry. Want some Taco Bell?
Dave Anthony
That night, Juan's friend was dragged out of his cell by a crate. Remember he has that friend who got arrested. Yeah. So he was dragged out of a cell by a crazed mob, and they lynched him in Market Square. And the Rangers are like, we have nothing to do with it. But later it was learned that they were completely responsible. More groups of men calling themselves Rangers then begin arriving at the border. And Juan laid a trap for a group of Rangers who thought they were pursuing a small group of men. But there was an ambush, and three Rangers are killed. Several Cortanises are killed.
Eduardo
I was about to woo, and then I remembered I'm in Texas.
Gareth Reynolds
You read the room?
Dave Anthony
It'd be amazing if it was the baseball team, though.
Gareth Reynolds
Nolan Ryan's just like, nolan, you're out of your element. The catcher's just like.
Dave Anthony
In revenge. The Rangers attacked Santa Rita, burning homes and chasing out women and children.
Gareth Reynolds
Nice. Got him.
Eduardo
Yeah. I mean, they're to blame, right? All the time, like, oh, yeah, what do we do? Oh, I know. Let's go, like, burn their homes.
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, look, when we save women and children, it's a big deal, but they're also, you know.
Eduardo
Wow.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, I'm just sick of them not counting the men. It's always women and children. What about the white man? How many white men died? Go ahead, read the thing.
Dave Anthony
None.
Gareth Reynolds
Hurry.
Eduardo
No, no, let's just take it in and move on. It's fine.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay, give me the iPad. I'll read.
Dave Anthony
No, I will go with what my friend here says. The Rangers prepared for a large attack. Thinking they would easily take out the Cortinistas at their main camp, the Rangers had to pull back in confusion and disarray and fled down the river while being chased.
Gareth Reynolds
How's it going?
Dave Anthony
As they fled, the Mexican army was on the other riverbank and shouting, viva Cortina. And waving the Mexican flag. Imagine winning a battle and there's just guys on the other side, like, showboating.
Gareth Reynolds
It's like you're Patriot fans.
Eduardo
It's Philadelphia all over again.
Dave Anthony
The Rangers attack the next day. Again they're repelled. But now the US army is on the way and the President has decided it's time. And Juan sent out another pronunciamento to fire the people up to fight to avenge their loss and land in the killings. Quote, many of you have been robbed of your property, incarcerated, chased, murdered, and hunted like wild beasts. So the local papers are horrified by this piece that he put out and said an army was on American soil under a foreign flag. And the Cortinises just keep raiding farms now and taking livestock. It's retribution.
Gareth Reynolds
Wrestling cows.
Dave Anthony
Yeah, yeah, they're wrestling. They're wrestling cows.
Eduardo
It happened.
Gareth Reynolds
I bet there were.
Eduardo
It's finally happened.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, finally. Fuck, yeah.
Dave Anthony
When the army arrived, they combined forces with the Rangers. Now they have their far superior weapons, but when they go to fight the Cortinistas a heavy fog hits and no one can tell who is who. And much of the fight.
Eduardo
Oh, they couldn't see race anymore.
Dave Anthony
See anybody.
Gareth Reynolds
It's our worst nightmare. We are all equal. Oh, I can't tell who's dark and who's regular.
Eduardo
Rogan said this would happen.
Gareth Reynolds
The book of Rogan was true. Maybe it's time for us to take an opportunity to recognize that we're all the same.
Eduardo
No.
Dave Anthony
Okay, he'll kill that one. So much of the fighting becomes hand to hand. And the Cortinista army is routed.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, my God.
Dave Anthony
Many were killed. A bunch fled to Mexico.
Gareth Reynolds
Fled to Mexico.
Dave Anthony
And Juan took was left of his men and continued to retreat up river. And the Rangers were, quote, burning ranches and farms along the road. Friends and foes.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, friends.
Dave Anthony
Just like. Yeah, the Rangers are just you. They're just assholes.
Gareth Reynolds
Sorry.
Eduardo
I'm just surprised the Rangers have friends.
Dave Anthony
Yeah, they murdered anyone who they thought was sympathetic to Juan.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, fuck.
Dave Anthony
And Juan's men are also burning and plundering as they go. Both sides are just destroying everything.
Gareth Reynolds
Perfect.
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
Eduardo
So are we doing both sides now? Is that what we're doing?
Gareth Reynolds
Look, there are fine people on both sides.
Dave Anthony
Nobody's saying that they're an army, Major. Quote, the whole country from Brownsville to rio Grande City, 120 miles and back to the arroyo, Colorado, has been laid to waste. And then Juan Felt fled to Mexico.
Eduardo
No, he gets to go back to Mexico.
Gareth Reynolds
We deported him.
Dave Anthony
He's been deported.
Eduardo
No, that's fine. I mean, just like he was received as a hero.
Dave Anthony
Yeah, tomorrow you're deported.
Eduardo
Oh, no, I get to go back.
Dave Anthony
Deported.
Gareth Reynolds
Please let us say we're deporting you.
Eduardo
All right.
Gareth Reynolds
Fills us with this weird pride.
Eduardo
I get to be deported back to Mexico.
Gareth Reynolds
What airline is deporting you tomorrow? And do you have a connection during your deportation?
Eduardo
No, it's a non stop from Southwest. It's fine.
Gareth Reynolds
Southwest deportation? Yeah. You are now not free to move about the country.
Dave Anthony
So it's a thorough US Victory. And when word reached Matamoros, there was a large demonstration where they shouted, death to the gringos. In Texas.
Eduardo
Muert Elos, gringos. Muerte. Oh, wait. I like how there's a few people here who understand what I'm saying. They're really excited.
Dave Anthony
Some people are very excited.
Gareth Reynolds
A shocking number of people kill us. Hurry, hurry. Yeah, it has to happen. It has to happen soon. Soon.
Dave Anthony
In Texas, they call it a great victory for civilization.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, fuck me.
Eduardo
Wow.
Gareth Reynolds
Unreal.
Dave Anthony
And they believe peace would now return.
Eduardo
Return. It wasn't even there in the first place.
Dave Anthony
But Cortnesis remained active in Texas. They still had a lot of support in Mexico. And it becomes a guerrilla war. And most people in the valley still supported and aided Juan Cortina. Most of the Mexican military still supported him. And Juan was seen in Matamoros walking about freely and recruiting men. And one day, shots from a riverboat rained down on a ranch.
Gareth Reynolds
Hello? Guess what, baby?
Eduardo
Ay, vios mio.
Gareth Reynolds
I dug up a howlet time. Now I've got toys. Oh, bloody hell. The boat's taking on water. Shit.
Dave Anthony
No.
Gareth Reynolds
So it I died and now I'm a zombie.
Eduardo
Is it all in your head?
Dave Anthony
Yes.
Gareth Reynolds
Right. He just wakes up. He's been bitten by a weird fly.
Eduardo
Oh, no.
Gareth Reynolds
Ah, the craziest dream. Push the howlitzer in the river.
Dave Anthony
So shots from riverboat rain down on a ranch as it's passing. And men at the ranch start shooting back. Turns out it was rangers on the riverboat. But word spreads that an innocent riverboat was attacked by Cortinistas. And that leads to 40 rangers invading Mexico. So this gets the filibusters excited.
Eduardo
That still happens. I don't want to say it anymore.
Dave Anthony
This gets all this.
Eduardo
I took no pleasure in saying it anymore, but it still happens.
Dave Anthony
Yeah, well, you know, your fault. This gets the filibusters excited.
Gareth Reynolds
Your head has slowly dropped to the other side.
Eduardo
I'm sorry, dad.
Gareth Reynolds
Every unmotivated attack.
Dave Anthony
So filibusters get excited, believing it means war. And then they can start crossing the river to seize ferry boats and taking land. And the U.S. army has to tell them there is no war and they have to stop.
Gareth Reynolds
Stop. Please.
Eduardo
Say that again, because that sounds insane. The US army said so there's. The US army had to tell them to stop.
Dave Anthony
Yeah, because there's a bunch of filibusters.
Gareth Reynolds
U.S. army intervened with peace.
Eduardo
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
U.S. army. Yeah. The U.S. army's like, all right, calm down.
Eduardo
No, when the U.S. army tells you.
Gareth Reynolds
To calm down, violence doesn't solve everything. We're the Pentagon.
Eduardo
So it's the worst shape.
Dave Anthony
So.
Gareth Reynolds
It is a weird one. We came up with too many sides. Yeah. Not in war.
Dave Anthony
So Juan is basically dragging Mexico into a war with the US And Mexico sends General Garcia to arrest Juan. And the General comes back to Mexico City and said, quote, he saw nothing of Juan. But he also told the Americans where Juan is.
Eduardo
No, I think. I believe he said, I saw no Juan.
Gareth Reynolds
That's a great one.
Dave Anthony
But he also told the Americans where Juan's Camp was. And so the Rangers crossed the border again.
Eduardo
Thank you.
Gareth Reynolds
That made up for the woo over there. Good.
Eduardo
I'm getting them on my side now. Thank you, Juan.
Gareth Reynolds
By Juan.
Eduardo
Oh, my God. That is so funny and so racist.
Gareth Reynolds
I'm allowed right now.
Dave Anthony
Take it easy, Chino. But they confuse the Mahamoros Mexican National Guard with wands men, and attack them. So the race.
Eduardo
We will look the same to you.
Gareth Reynolds
No, no, no. There was a fog. There was a fog. Motherfucker. It was one of those fogs they got over there.
Dave Anthony
Like, look at all these goddamn horns.
Gareth Reynolds
It's a fog. It was another one of those racial fogs. Fog of war.
Dave Anthony
And then the Rangers stole all the nearby. Nearby livestock they could and went back to the US So just. It's a crime. That's just massive crime.
Gareth Reynolds
Shocking.
Dave Anthony
Next, the Rangers crossed the border and attacked Reynosa. But there were no Cortanistas, just angry villagers in the Mexican National Guard telling them to get the fuck out of Mexico.
Gareth Reynolds
That's war.
Dave Anthony
So everything's getting super chaotic. And the Rangers are.
Eduardo
It's barely getting chaotic. Wow.
Gareth Reynolds
Just started.
Eduardo
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
And the US has to respond. And they decide to send Colonel Robert E. Lee.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, fuck. What the fuck?
Dave Anthony
Solved the racism problem.
Gareth Reynolds
I heard there. Did somebody order extreme racism? Allow me to put a little oil on the racial fires.
Dave Anthony
So Lee gets there and he demands Mexico arrest all Cortinistas. And an army major said the Rangers were clearly trying to start a war. And at Reynosa, they shot at any Mexican going to the river for water. And then the city put cannons in position to fire back at the Rangers.
Eduardo
Viva Mexico.
Gareth Reynolds
This is like Rocky 4.
Eduardo
We don't take no shit unless you tell us to take it.
Dave Anthony
So Sam Houston has sworn in as Texas governor.
Gareth Reynolds
Hold off.
Dave Anthony
He does say that Mexican Texans are being stereotyped as criminals and that they are actually, quote, good and true citizens of who should be treated as such by all Texians.
Gareth Reynolds
But, Dave, why not Texicans?
Dave Anthony
That's what it said in the thing. I don't know. Texians pops up at some point.
Gareth Reynolds
Texians.
Dave Anthony
Texians.
Eduardo
Texians. Yeah. That's when. Back when they were like their own country. Right? Where they wanted to be their own thing.
Dave Anthony
Is that what it is when you guys were your own country, you were Texians.
Eduardo
Immigrants from America that live in Texas were Texan.
Dave Anthony
Okay. Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Sir, do you want a mic?
Dave Anthony
Okay. So the.
Eduardo
Show off.
Dave Anthony
So the Texans.
Eduardo
Not for long. You're not.
Gareth Reynolds
You've been doged. Sir.
Dave Anthony
So all the immigrants into Texas Are Texians Tejanos?
Gareth Reynolds
I don't think you're allowed to say that term, sir, but thank you for trying.
Dave Anthony
Okay, now explain Chinos, motherfucker.
Gareth Reynolds
You racists. Oh, they're lazy. Wow. Unbelievable. Crazy. It's crazy.
Eduardo
That's what happens, man. Mexicans get into the US and they forget where they came from.
Dave Anthony
So Houston sends commissioners to the border, and people are not very happy about that. Sure, the people thought they would negotiate with Juan. The Commission.
Eduardo
Right.
Dave Anthony
And people in Brownsville just want vengeance. They don't want to negotiate. They're also shocked to learn the Rangers, quote, were burning ranches and hanging and shooting Mexicans without authority by law, and are more dreaded than Cortina. So the commission comes down to find out, like, what's this fucking Mexican guy doing? And they find out that the Rangers are actually the problem.
Eduardo
That still happens.
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Like, what's more shocking, that it's happening or that they're surprised that it's happening?
Dave Anthony
What? And many filibusters had actually come from around the country and were there and ready to invade Mexico, which included pro southern men who wanted to turn Mexico into a slave empire. Kind of. We.
Eduardo
Yeah, we call that outsourcing nowadays.
Dave Anthony
But also at the same time, Juan Cortina had inflamed deep seated anger of many lowly rancheros. So the commissioners quickly concluded that if something was not done, the situation would turn into a, quote, war of the races again.
Gareth Reynolds
We want that.
Eduardo
Yep.
Dave Anthony
They believe the US should take possession of a large, large border sections of Mexico to stop it. So their solution is, like, take over.
Eduardo
Oh, their solution was to make us the 51st part of it.
Dave Anthony
Yeah. To take a bunch of it. Yeah.
Eduardo
All right.
Gareth Reynolds
You're welcome.
Dave Anthony
It's like, oh, we got. It's like what we have to do with Canada, right?
Eduardo
No, I'm no longer welcome. That's the problem.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, sorry, I misunderstood.
Dave Anthony
You're not welcome.
Gareth Reynolds
No, it's. That. Will they, won't they? We have with Canada right now.
Dave Anthony
The legislature gave Houston authorization to raise a calvary, and many congressmen wanted Houston to act and, quote, punish Mexico, which I agree with.
Gareth Reynolds
Always have.
Dave Anthony
Oh, punishment will always have. The solution is punish me, Daddy.
Eduardo
What?
Dave Anthony
Punish Mexico? Yeah, always punish Mexico.
Gareth Reynolds
I mean, worst case, it's something to do, you know?
Eduardo
I mean, you guys don't know this, but they charged me a tariff for this beer.
Dave Anthony
It's.
Eduardo
Somehow, you're paying for it. I don't get it.
Gareth Reynolds
It's gonna work out. Trust me. We're paying for your beer. But we're gonna be tired of winning.
Eduardo
Exhausted.
Dave Anthony
But then the US army headquarters sent word to DC in mid March that Juan Cortina had left the border and the war on the Rio Grande was over. So Houston had missed his window to invade Mexico. Oh, no, it's sad. And he stated now he had to state that filibusters gathered there were in violation of the law. And so all the filibusters start drifting north, and they're sad. And then the Rangers start also moving north. And Texans learn of all the devastation that has happened on the Rio Grande Valley. They had burned Santa Rito and Rancho del Carmen, and rumors start that they had violated Juan's wife and daughter. And though Houston confided in a State Department man sent to observe that he was still itching for a war with Mexico, he wrote to the President, quote, all that prevents Governor Houston from moving on Mexico with a major force is money and a justifiable pretext.
Eduardo
Oh, they wanted to actually justify the.
Gareth Reynolds
Thing in our own way. In our way where we're like, oh, yeah, wow.
Dave Anthony
If he kept up fighting, Houston would have invaded. Like, he would have gotten his invasion. But now the Mexican military is cooperating with the American military. Juan Cortina moved his family into the Burgos mountains in the south, and the Mexicans promised the US they would find him and arrest him. And though pro war papers tried to rile things up, an American officer wrote in July 1860 that the Rio Grande Valley was, quote, unquote, perfectly quiet since the departure of the Rangers. The paper still blamed any crime that occurred on Juan. And Juan, however, joined with the liberal army of Benito Juarez to fight against the conservative army generals Miguel Miramon and Leonardo Marquez. And for now, there would be no war with America.
Eduardo
Right? Yeah. You know, actually, the city where I come from is named Juarez because of Benito Juarez, the guy that he went to fight with.
Gareth Reynolds
Really?
Eduardo
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
You named Benito Juarez?
Eduardo
Yeah, because, I mean, he became, like, the savior of Mexico. He was an asshole, and he was also tiny. But at some point during the revolution, because we had the Mexican independence in 1810, and then by 1910, like, you know, Benito Juarez was like. Was, like, right there by the middle. But then when the revolution was happening in 1910, because we had some asshole dictator for a while, I don't know if you know what that's like, but. But, like, the. The capital of Mexico kept moving, and for a while, Ciudad Juarez was the capital of Mexico.
Dave Anthony
Oh, really?
Eduardo
Yeah. And then it went downhill, literally.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, you moved it downhill a little bit.
Dave Anthony
Yeah.
Eduardo
I mean, I'm pretty sure the Mexican history teacher knows it better than.
Gareth Reynolds
I do, but is he right, sir?
Eduardo
Oh, he's Texas. Oh, yeah. You're in Texas history now.
Gareth Reynolds
He's not aligned with you anymore. He's like, easy. Build a wall between our friendship.
Eduardo
A brick barricade.
Dave Anthony
So the source was Cortina, defending the Mexican name in Texas by Jerry Thompson.
Gareth Reynolds
That's hilarious that it's by a guy named Jerry Thompson. Hi, my name is Jerry Thompson, and let me tell you about Gordino. And in Mexico. I've really got this down.
Dave Anthony
I mean, that's just what is called the Gartino War. But you could actually do. I mean, it goes on for, like. Then there's more fighting and stuff. And the Mexicans are fighting amongst these people seem.
Gareth Reynolds
Let's.
Dave Anthony
It's. It like, at some point, I decided to cut it off because it's just like. It doesn't even. It stops making sense. No, I mean, I don't know who's fighting who anymore.
Eduardo
Did it ever make sense to begin with?
Gareth Reynolds
Unlike now. It makes a lot of sense.
Dave Anthony
It makes so much sense. But, yeah, we almost went to another war with Mexico and almost. I'm sad that Sam Houston did not get to have his war. I think we all are.
Gareth Reynolds
And now we're in Houston.
Eduardo
I only have one thing to say. Be my Mexico.
Dave Anthony
Hey, no, not in America, you motherfucker.
Gareth Reynolds
Get him. Someone else do it. I'm sitting. Well, I think it just puts a finer point on everything that's always been going on, which is that.
Dave Anthony
Well, all this stuff is new. That's happening now.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Dave Anthony
And white people are pretty normal.
Eduardo
Yeah, you guys are great.
Gareth Reynolds
No, we're definitely.
Dave Anthony
We don't get panicked over nothing. It's not our thing. It's not something we do all the time.
Gareth Reynolds
There should just be, like, a mass therapy where we just, like, in a room, like, hey, what is this? I was told there'd be marshmallows and giant Cougar Mellencamp. And then, like, the door locks and it's like, you guys are. You gotta fucking deal with some shit real quick. Gonna watch history. This is our land. Quiet.
Eduardo
If you come at me with John Cougar Mellencamp, you understand why we invented accordion rock, right?
Dave Anthony
Wow. Now we have to invade Mexico.
Gareth Reynolds
Now, honestly, that statement was an act of war. And how dare you. Thank you guys for coming out. Give it up for Eduardo Espanitos, everybody.
Eduardo
Gracias, Houston, Mexico.
Gareth Reynolds
Thank you, guys. Appreciate it. Gracias. All right, doll heads. Hope you're loving the dollop. I know I am. I don't know what episode this is. Anyway, listen, it's me, Gareth. I am on the road doing stand up comedy, which I know you all love. If you would like to see me, go to garethreynolds.com I'm going to be everywhere. Let's party. On July 24th, I will be at the Improv in Irvine, California on August 5th, I'll be in Nashville at Zany's Lexington, Kentucky and Comedy Off Broadway on August 6th. August 7th, I'll be in Huntsville, Alabama. Then I got a couple nights over at the Comedy Catch in Chattanooga, Tennessee, August 8th through August 9th. I'll be in Atlanta, Georgia, August 10th. Then I'll be at the Comedy Fort in Fort Collins. Last year we broke the alcohol sales record. Let's do it again. That is August 22nd through the 23rd. And then I will be in Bozeman, Montana, September 5th through September 6th. That's Bozeman, Montana. Last best comedy. Then excited for a weekend at the Comedy Club of Kansas City. September 26th through the 27th, I'll be in Columbia, Missouri. September 28th, I'll be in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, September 30th. Come on, Milwaukee, you're my home place. I'll be at the skyline comedy club October 1st in Appleton, Wisconsin, Fort Wayne, Indiana. I'm gonna be there two shows on October 3rd. And then I will be at the den in Chicago, Illinois on October 4th. And finally, Sunnyvale, California, November 6th through the 8th at Rooster T. Feathers. Garethreynolds.com for tickets and information. Let's go. You're part of the Gare force. Whoops. I almost messed that up.
Podcast Summary: Episode 693 - Juan Cortina - Live
Title: The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds
Hosts: Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds
Guest: Eduardo Espanitos
Release Date: July 22, 2025
In this episode of The Dollop, comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds delve into the tumultuous life of Juan Cortina, a prominent figure in Texas-Mexico history. Joined by guest Eduardo Espanitos, the trio explores Cortina's impact on both sides of the Rio Grande.
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Juan Cortina was born on May 16, 1824, in an adobe and rock house in Camargo, Tamaulipas, Mexico, to Trinidad Cortina and Estefana Garcia Cocchia. Coming from a wealthy cattle ranching family, Cortina's early years were marked by raids and conflicts that shaped his future endeavors.
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As a teenager, Cortina witnessed numerous assaults by Comanche warriors, fostering his deep-seated animosity towards Native Americans. His early adulthood saw him join the Guardia Nacional de Tamaulipas, where he rose to the rank of corporal. However, his personal life was equally tumultuous, involving multiple romantic entanglements and strained family relationships.
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Cortina's involvement in local politics was marred by personal conflicts, notably with his former friend Adolphus Glavacki. Accusations of cattle stealing and mismanagement of family estates escalated their rivalry, leading to Cortina being indicted for attempted murder and cattle rustling.
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By 1859, Juan Cortina had amassed a force of 70 men, known as the Cortinistas, who actively sought to defend Mexican land rights and retaliate against perceived injustices. Their actions sparked fear among Anglo settlers, leading to heightened tensions and retaliatory measures from various factions, including the Brownsville Tigers militia.
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The confrontations between Cortinistas and American militias culminated in several failed attacks due to logistical issues, such as malfunctioning weaponry and insufficient manpower. Despite initial victories, Cortina's forces were eventually overwhelmed by the combined might of the U.S. army and Mexican military support, leading to significant losses on both sides.
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Juan Cortina's relentless pursuit of justice for Mexican Texans left an indelible mark on the region's history. While his guerrilla tactics ultimately could not secure lasting victories, his efforts highlighted the complexities of border politics and ethnic tensions in 19th-century Texas.
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The episode wraps up with reflections on the enduring impact of Juan Cortina's struggles and the ongoing relevance of his story in understanding the cultural and political dynamics of the Texas-Mexico border.
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Disclaimer: This summary captures the key historical discussions from the podcast. However, parts of the transcript contain offensive language and stereotypes used in a comedic context by the hosts and guest. Listener discretion is advised.