701 - Bill Clinton with James Adomian - Part Two

Summary

The Dollop Episode 701 - Bill Clinton with James Adomian - Part Two

Release Date: September 16, 2025
Podcast: The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds
Guest: James Adomian
Theme: A comedic deep-dive into the first half of Bill Clinton’s presidency, focusing on policy, scandals, and the political forces that defined the era.

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Overview

In this episode, Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds, joined by comedian James Adomian, continue their irreverent exploration of the Bill Clinton years in American political history. This second installment covers Clinton’s early presidency, campaign promises versus reality, domestic and foreign policy upheavals, the toxic politics of the 1990s, and of course, the scandals that would come to define the era. Through a mixture of sharp historical narrative and biting comedic commentary (including Adomian’s razor-sharp impressions), the hosts reveal how the Clinton years set the stage for decades of American political dysfunction.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Clinton’s Presidential Victory and Cabinet Choices

• Discussion on Bill and Hillary’s “Dorkiness”

  • The trio jokes about realizing, in hindsight, that the Clintons were essentially just “dorks” socially—Bill the slick “cool” guy and Hillary the bookworm.
  • (05:07 - James Adomian as Clinton): “One time I stumbled into the wrong kind of dungeon … it was a D&D dungeon … there were wizards and orcs and you had to make neither one of them happy.”

• Clinton’s Immediate Challenges Upon Entering Office

  • Clinton quickly faces the limits of his campaign promises due to an unexpectedly large budget deficit (08:19).
  • He fills his administration with Wall Street and Democratic establishment figures, disappointing progressive hopes for change.

2. Broken Promises and Policy Retreats

• Haiti and Reversal on Refugee Policy

  • Clinton reneges on his promise to accept Haitian refugees, distinguishing between “political” and “economic” refugees (08:50–09:10).
  • (09:10 - James Adomian as Clinton): “A great thing about a promise is that it’s a living document … we’re going to take him out of power to protect him.”

• “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”

  • Explores the logic and political fallout of the compromise on gays in the military.
  • (13:19 - Dave, paraphrasing Bob Byrd): “He said gays in the military was a cause of the fall of the Roman Empire and it would lead to gay marriage, gay Boy Scouts, the cannons will shoot confetti, the Village People…”

3. Clinton’s Executive Dysfunction & White House Drama

• His Ambivalence and Temperament

  • Clinton’s indecisiveness, lateness, and charm are recounted, often being “wishy-washy” and changing his mind frequently (21:17).
  • Notably, his zig-zagging led to awkward moments, including the press conference with Ruth Bader Ginsburg (20:53).

• Personal Turmoil: Death of Vincent Foster & Fallout

  • The suicide of Vincent Foster, a close confidant, becomes fodder for right-wing conspiracies as the White House staff (led by Hillary) rushes to secure files before investigators arrive (23:25–25:34).

4. Republican Propaganda Machine & Whitewater

• The right swiftly weaponizes Foster’s death for political gain, producing conspiracy media and leveraging it through Rush Limbaugh and bumper stickers (26:07+).
• (26:16 - James Adomian as right-wing podcaster): “Let me tell you about alphas and betas ... back then, for the technology, they were quick. They had the bumper stickers immediately.”

5. Policy Battles: Deficit, NAFTA, and Healthcare

• Budget Battles and Wall Street’s Ascendancy

  • Clinton abandons progressive economic promises under pressure from Wall Street advisers (29:00).

• NAFTA: Selling Out Labor

  • Against strong union and environmental opposition, Clinton joins with Republicans to pass NAFTA (33:21–40:06).
  • The infamous Al Gore vs. Ross Perot debate on Larry King Live is recounted for its role in swaying public opinion (36:02).
  • (37:47 - James Adomian as Perot): “That giant sucking sound ... Ross Perot was right about all that, by the way. Completely right.”

• Healthcare Reform Failure

  • Hillary Clinton is put in charge of a doomed reform effort that alienated progressives and centrists alike, ignored Congress, and ultimately satisfied no one except insurance companies (59:00–69:10).
  • (62:57 - Dave paraphrasing critics): “The only way to pass healthcare reform is to frame it as a battle between the people and corporations. And she acted as if those people did not understand how politics works.”

6. Tough-on-Crime Politics and Mass Incarceration

• Crime Bill of 1994
  • Written chiefly by Joe Biden; supported by many Black leaders at the time but would lead to mass incarceration, especially among young Black men (81:49).
  • (82:38 - Dave): "For a period, new prisons opened every 15 days on average."

7. Foreign Policy Crises

• Somalia & Rwanda

  • Bill Clinton is depicted as reactive, unsure, and ultimately complicit in American inaction (or disastrous action) in Somalia and Rwanda (45:21, 74:06).
  • (74:55 - James Adomian as Clinton): “Tragedy is a great word to use when you refuse to use the word genocide...”

• Haiti

  • US sends Haitian refugees to Guantanamo in harsh conditions; responds with military threats and last-minute negotiation led by Jimmy Carter (77:00–81:20).
  • (80:06 - James Adomian as Jimmy Carter): “I currently have my study bible open to Deuteronomy 4:6… Also, can I interest you in some peanuts?”

8. The Great Political Realignment

• “Republican Revolution” of 1994

  • The failures on healthcare and NAFTA, along with mass incarceration policies, demoralize the Democratic base. Republicans take control of Congress for the first time since 1955 (84:39–85:24).
  • (85:52 - James): “There’s a ceiling of Republican support. ... If it’s low turnout, the Republicans win.”

• Clinton Adopts “Triangulation”

  • Under Republican strategist Dick Morris, Clinton begins to overtly court right-leaning policies, furthering the rightward shift (87:00).
  • (93:00 - Dave): “So it’s Bill fast forwarding Newt Gingrich’s plan…”

9. Scandal Era Dawns: Monica Lewinsky

• The Beginnings of the Lewinsky Affair
  • Monica Lewinsky enters as an intern; Clinton’s infamous charm is described by both allies and enemies (90:45).
  • Encounter details, including Clinton’s notorious sexual behavior and attempts to avoid “finishing” with Lewinsky to limit scandal (98:10–101:45).
  • (99:00 - Dave, summarizing): “Bill picked it up and spoke to a congressman and followed her to, quote, an orgasm or two. He talked on the phone as she blew him. But he stopped her before he came, saying they didn’t know each other well enough.”
  • (101:56 - James as Clinton): “Never had sexual relations... I did let her suck my [bleep] for 20 minutes and I jacked off into a book.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Bill Clinton’s Political Instability:

  • (22:06 - Dave): “The view of Bill as a wishy-washy president was becoming an issue. … Time ran a story and called him the incredible shrinking president.”

• On Democratic Compromise:

  • (14:24 - Dave): “This version of the Democratic Party—every single issue they’ve compromised on since 92, and the whole thing is like, yeah, no one likes it. Everyone’s unhappy.”

• On Clinton Adopting the GOP Agenda:

  • (29:59 - James): “A biographer said Bill always ends up agreeing with the deficit-obsessed experts. Venom between the parties increases.”

• On Mass Incarceration:

  • (83:00 - James): “I know for example the last 20 years at least the US has a prison population that’s the largest in the world ... was this the case before that? Or did the crime bill take us up this ticket?”

• On the Monica Lewinsky Scandal:

  • (99:43 - Gareth as "Bob Dole"/phone) “Are you there, Mr. President? ... Are you following, Mr. President?”
  • (100:09 - Dave): “They met again two nights later. Again? She blew him while he was on the phone.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Clinton’s First Days, Cabinet, and Dorkiness — 04:42–05:56
• Fiscal Reality, Broken Promises — 07:16–09:10
• Haitian Refugee Reversal — 08:35–09:10
• “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” and Moral Panic — 10:37–14:16
• Vincent Foster Suicide & Whitewater Fallout — 23:25–26:09
• Rush Limbaugh, Right-wing Conspiracy Machine — 26:09–28:20
• NAFTA Debate & Al Gore vs. Ross Perot — 33:21–38:47
• Healthcare Reform Failure — 59:00–69:10
• Crime Bill & Mass Incarceration — 81:49–84:39
• Republican Revolution of 1994 — 84:39–85:52
• Clinton’s ‘Triangulation’ and Rightward Shift — 87:00–93:00
• Monica Lewinsky Affair Begins — 90:45–101:45

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Tone & Style

The episode is fast-paced and packed with sharp, often dark comedy, alternating between historical narration and satirical impressions (notably Adomian’s Bill Clinton and right-wing caricatures). The hosts are openly critical of the political maneuvering and moral cowardice in 90s politics, using raw language and biting humor to emphasize the absurdity and tragedy of the era’s choices.

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For Further Reference

• Sources Cited:

  • The Survivor: Bill Clinton in the White House by John F. Harris
  • A Vast Conspiracy by Jeffrey Toobin
  • Bill Clinton: New Gilded Age President by Patrick Maney
  • Living History by Hillary Clinton
  • Numerous articles on mass incarceration, Whitewater, and healthcare policy.

• Recommended for Listeners:

  • Those interested in the roots of the modern U.S. political climate
  • Sceptics of bipartisan "solutions"
  • Political junkies and those who enjoy satire with substance

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Closing

The episode closes by teasing the coming storm: as Clinton appears to rebound politically, the personal scandals ramp up, setting the stage for the chaos and spectacle of the second half of his presidency.

Transcript

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You're listening to the Dollop on the All Things Comedy Network. This is an American history podcast where each week I read a story from.

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American history to a goober, Gareth Reynolds, who has no idea what the topic is gonna be about. Actually, I do. It's gonna be about Bill Clinton. And this is part two. And our guest is the great James Adomian. James, you have any dates to promote Plug?

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Yes, I do.

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All right, thank you everybody.

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One of them might have already happened. I'm in Columbus, Ohio at the Columbus Comedy festival this weekend, September 6th and 7th. And then I'm doing the Alternative show at JFL Toronto.

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Oh, great.

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September 18th, 19th and 20th.

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That's fucking great.

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I didn't know that was still going on. That's very exciting.

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It's back. It's back.

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Okay. One thing I will say about the Clintons is I didn't know that they were just dorks when I was younger. Like when I was, when they were in office. I didn't realize that all these people are mostly see when I saw Hillary, weird social. Social weirdos.

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When I saw Hillary with Hillary looked like a dork to me. Bill looked like. It's exactly what it ended up being. Bill looked like he fucked and she looked like she was like a bookworm.

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Well, one time I stumbled into the wrong kind of dungeon and it was a DND dungeon when I was governor and the dungeon master, it was the 12 sided die that led me to triangulation and the third way. Yeah, there, there, there was wizards and orcs and you had to, you had to make neither one of them happy.

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All right, so Bill has won the presidency. April 4, 1992.

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You know, each one of those balloons I afterwards.

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The one of her looking at the Balloon and being like that's when that was 2000. That's her and that's her in 2016.

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Yeah, yeah. But what James is addressing is that that was not the first time she saw a balloon.

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Yeah.

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And looks surprised even though it looked like she had self lobotomized when she saw that balloon.

[C]

We had so many condoms coming into the governor's mansion in Arkansas that we used to have to disguise them at public events and major holidays.

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Bill, what is this we're celebrating?

[C]

Yeah, we, we would just blow up the condoms and then we would deflate them and use them later on.

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All right, so the balloon, her balloon reaction is a.

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It's amazing.

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Top five political moment in my opinion.

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So Bill gets in office immediately has to face the fact that he can't really fulfill his campaign promises and he.

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Won with like 39% of the vote or something.

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Yeah. Because it was split between. And Both, both were 96 pro ran again.

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But didn't. Was, did he, did he not do a sort of Obama Y thing where he gets in and then he just starts stacking his cabinet with the Wall Streeties and it's a little Robert Reich.

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Like Robert Reich is, is straight out of Wall Street. I think Goldman Sachs is.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And then he gets.

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He definitely had a collection of Wall street guys.

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But yeah, he did that Democrat thing where he runs. Yeah, go ahead.

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This was also back in the day when Congress was like always Democratic. So he came in.

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Yeah, right.

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He came into a Democratic Congress, of course, because it was always going to be that way.

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Yeah.

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He Congress, the House has been in democratic hands since 1955. That is crazy when people now think that Congress naturally switches every couple.

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Yeah, right.

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So it's going to flip.

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Yeah, right.

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That didn't happen until Bill destroyed it.

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That's exciting.

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Okay. So he immediately has to face that he can't fulfill his campaign promises. And one big reason, the biggest reason, is that the budget deficit is a lot larger than everyone thought. His advisors are shocked at his lack of understanding of government processes. Instead of cutting taxes for the middle class and investing 60 billion on things like childcare and education, he's going to have to make sacrifices.

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Well, that part I knew going in. We're going to have to say one thing and then deliver something else, if anything at all. And guess what? Probably going to be blood plasma and more Walmart.

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So Haiti is going through this terrible violence and upheaval and Bill had promised to allow refugees to come here. And Haitians hear this and there's an estimated 100,000 Haitians coming. So that's going to cost a lot of money.

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Whoopsie.

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So he reverses his position and people are like, well, you broke your fucking promise. So he changes it, just adjusts a little bit to say he's supporting political refugees, not economic refugees.

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A great thing about a promise is that it is a living document. I remember that when Jean Bertrand Aristide was taken out in a US backed coup and Clinton went in, Clinton went in and was like, we're going to take him out of power to protect him.

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We've done some great stuff. Like I think the country that's gotten the worst of America by far is Haiti.

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Has to be.

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I don't think there's any.

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And isn't it all, I mean it's all birthed from the fact that at one point they decided they were, I mean they were the most done at America was like, well, they had a.

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They had a slave.

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Yeah, right. That's what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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There's a very ugly law, centuries long punishment campaign that the French passed off to the Americans.

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That's right.

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They still owe France like so much money and it's just like, just forgive it, man. What are you doing?

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Who does Haiti? That's amazing. France, you actually have to pay the tab at some point. Yeah, we've been quite good to you.

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They made them pay an impossible debt for the value of the slaves.

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Yeah. I mean it's shocking, truly.

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Okay, you're welcome. Haitians are now being stopped by the navy and turned back as far as allowing gays in the military.

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Guess what?

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He now says there should actually be limits. Quote, I don't want to see soldiers holding hands or dancing at military crazy because that's what would happen because you know, you know when, when a straight couple in the navy are at a military post, you often see them dancing or holding hands. So you're obviously gay guys are going to do the same thing, right?

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Well, what I know of gays, well, I know that there never competition after hours and I know that whenever there's a police chase in a, in a movie, an action movie that oops, they go through a gay bar during one of the things and they're always dancing at their posts.

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They are.

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But he also thinks, he also thinks that sexual orientation shouldn't be a basis for discrimination.

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So the most, this is really hearing it. It is the most bullshit democratic policy of mouth marbly bullshit jargon. Yes.

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Well I think someone.

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See I didn't inhale of like military Bait. Yeah.

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So Franklin Roosevelt, I think made a great mistake in fighting hard for something that he believed in.

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Yeah. It killed him.

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So they had a very tense meeting with the Joint Chiefs of Staff who rejected it. Marine Commandant Carl Mundy said the military considered all gays to be inherently guilty. Guilty of moral depravity and were worried about troop morale.

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Yeah.

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And keeping it in the closet really fuels the way. Mr. President, we're not prepared to have San Diego come out of the closet. San Diego is the unofficial gay bar of this country and it is closeted.

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San Diego's America's gay bar.

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Colin Powell comes up with a great idea if people didn't have to listen to Colin Powell episode. He's a horrifying human being. He said the military should just not ask people if they are gay. Senator Samnan threatened to hold up the Family and Medical Leave act over it. Democratic Senator Robert Byrd. Robert Bird. Yeah. He's a Klanman. He was a clan.

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Democrat.

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Oldest.

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He was an old populous right wing Democrat.

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Gays are invented.

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He said gays in the military was a cause of the fall of the Roman Empire and it would lead to gay marriage.

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I was there.

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Gay Boy Scouts and gay boy Scouts.

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The cannons will shoot confetti, the Village People.

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I read a couple of chapters of the only book on Rome that anybody ever get signs written by notorious Catholic. They blame it not only currency or trade or endless war, but on the.

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Gaze.

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Bill still signed the don't ask, don't tell law. Soldiers could not.

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That goes for women of sexually assaulted. That's a policy. Don't ask, don't, don't ask. And if they do shut the up.

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You won't be asked and you should not tell.

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Do not say a word.

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Soldiers could not be openly gay, but they couldn't be asked if they were a compromise that left everybody unhappy.

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It's so weird.

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Everybody's unhappy. That's the thing about all these things that they.

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This version of polling leads you.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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So this version of the Democratic Party you can go through every single issue that they've compromised on since 92 and the whole thing is like. Yeah, no one likes it. Everyone's unhappy.

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Yeah.

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So Alan Greenspan, head of the Federal Reserve told Bill radical spending cuts were needed to slow interest rates or it would end in financial catastrophe. Staff are looking for a 140 billion in cuts. So out goes his promise to cut the middle class taxes. He still wants his child care and education plans. Then he spoke. He goes on TV and said he tried to Avoid raising taxes, but was unsuccessful. And the speech bombs, and the stock market goes down 83 points.

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83.

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Yeah. Not that much. But for then, it's like.

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Yeah.

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Remember when the. Remember when the stock market would just go down that little bit and everyone freak out? And now it's like, you know, 1400 points. All right, so Bill is hating being the most protected man in the country. He called the White House, quote, the crown jewel of the penitentiary system.

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I mean, it's so bad, they ought to take my plasma.

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Denmark is a prison.

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It's like a chastity belt.

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He drove the Secret Service crazy. He hated telling them where he was going and what he was going to do.

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Mr. Clinton, please stop ordering poontang from the chef.

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Right. So that's the reason a guy like this would hate it.

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Yeah.

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Oh, because he's always on the make. And now he's not on the make because there's always Secret Service crazy.

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Awful.

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Hell, they've arranged it for 200 years at this point. They're like, there are tunnels everywhere, sir.

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Once he quickly decided to go for a jog. So Secret Service agents had to jog with him in suits and dress shoes.

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I remember that. That. That would became a thing where he would go on these jogs with his Secret Service agent.

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Yeah.

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So they had to start having two security details, one in suits and one in sweats, in case he went for a jog.

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Well, I mean, how great is it to get on the sweat detail?

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I know, right?

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Yeah. So rare, too.

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He got very annoyed when he couldn't stop his motorcade on a whim.

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I'll pull over.

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That one hurt.

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Pull over. We got a nice woman.

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Woman.

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Invite her to my room. Ask her if she wants her neck kissed. And then she could kiss my pecker.

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Yelling, quote, why can't I do what I want?

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You're the president. You. What the are you talking. I mean, it's called public service, but, man.

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Bill and Hillary had an antagonistic relationship with the White House residential staff.

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I completely forgot about her.

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Oh, she'll be around.

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I forgot.

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Many were. Many of the staff were ardent Bush supporters and could be rude to the Clintons.

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That's awesome.

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And they would gossip about the Clintons. And word of Clinton's screaming matches spread. Once Bill had a small scratch on his face. And the rumor was, Hillary did it because Bill let Barbra Streisand spend the night.

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Wow.

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There was always a rumor that they're having an affair.

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Well, you remember there was. There's always. There's One side of her face. That's the. The side that she lets the photos be taken on. That's not the side you want to finish on.

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Oh.

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There is a completely unrelated Streisand effect that I'm very familiar with.

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Bill also had a very antagonistic relationship with the press that just got worse over time. They were hard on him more than other presidents.

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He's also a liar. I mean. Yeah, yeah. So he's that, like. He's like, where's this coming from? Don't interview those women.

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Press calls were an answer, and the White House. White House often chose to tell news to local press instead of the press corps. So his aides had to deal with a president who stayed up late and then would wake up grumpy and then couldn't stand schedule. Clinton Standard Time is what it was called. Cst. It's a money and time suck. And police are on standby. Roads are closed. Crowds and venues are waiting.

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We have the motorcade route blocked off, sir. And you're. Can you get in the shower?

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Can we go to Buffalo Wild Wings?

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I'm clipping my toenails. Junior employees were told not to look Bill in the eyes or he'd start chatting and waste time.

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I mean, he's kind of like, wow.

[C]

The opposite of the. The Jim Carrey asshole thing, where it's like, don't talk to me because I am important.

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Evander Holyfield. Same thing when I did Extra on Saturday Night Live. He made us all turn around and face the wall when he walked by. Don't look him in the eye.

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But there's the opposite of don't look him in the eye because he will talk to you too much.

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Yes. That's what I mean. It's. It's very strange that he has this weird, sad power to make you feel. He's like a weird Medusa. Like, he makes you feel like you're the only person in the room. And that is kind of a high for him.

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And you imagine 200 million people who think they're the only person in the.

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Get closer to your tv.

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It's weird, but he's still.

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He's the president.

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He still has his temper tantrums, which are then followed by apologies, hugs, and once he had five people. People fired and rehired in the same week.

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This is a lot like a dysfunctional bar. Everybody's getting paid in cash.

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He's very ambivalent about decision making.

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That's good, though.

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He took the longest of any modern president to fill a Supreme Court vacancy. He Wanted Mario Cuomo.

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Oh my God. Who passed not away.

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And then he reluctantly was like, okay, Ruth Bader Ginsburg. But then an aide was like, Mario's on the phone or no, Mario wants to do it, but he wants you to call him. So then Bill went to column, but before he did, the aide was like, no, he called back and said he doesn't want it. So it's just like chaos.

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Well, just promise me you'll do this job till you die.

[B]

So he doesn't want Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I'm just, I'm just scared she'll, she'll stay in office till she's dead.

[C]

Well, Cuomo, come on. There's between, there's got to be someone. If it can't be Cuomo before her Ed Koch is available.

[A]

Here's what I like. Cuomo's name has come in it and Koch could be pronounced.

[C]

Downey.

[A]

Arsenio hall, for God's sake.

[B]

He announces her nomination to the press and watches her speak with tears in his eyes. When a reporter asked about his zig zagging decision making process, an angry Bill said, quote, unquote, how could you ask a question like that after a statement she just made is beyond me. Thank you, goodbye. And left. And Ginsburg just stood there awkwardly.

[A]

Oh man, that is the. But that sort, I mean, again, it's always so funny to see like the machinations of where it ends. But that's such a Trumpy. Yeah, sort of like, how dare you insult the moment.

[B]

Yeah. The view of Bill as a wishy washy president was becoming an issue. He wanted to hear everyone's opinion on an issue and could easily change his mind. And Punnett started calling him a failed president. Time ran a story on Bill and called him the incredible shrinking president. I don't remember this.

[C]

And I, I, I'd cross 250 at this point too. For a shrinking president, I sure had a lot of X's on that T shirt side.

[A]

Loaded.

[B]

Childhood friend Vincent Foster was deputy White House counsel. He's brilliant. He's a close friend of Hillary, but not experienced with D.C. political life. And it's hard. He also dealt with Bill and Hillary's personal legal issues, so papers would make the occasional comments about him and he said the damage was irreparable. And he started having panic attacks and he wanted to quit, but he was scared that he would be humiliated going back to Arkansas. And then Hillary was also treating like an employee instead of a friend. He starts having marriage problems. He's anxiety, depression, and then he drives to a park like 15 minutes away from the White House and kills himself.

[A]

It's amazing to hear how he's actually just someone with emotions and sensitivities is really what the thing is. And they were just like. But just bury that all deep inside. You. Go pork a nine.

[B]

He's having a real hard time.

[C]

This is a parade of sociopathology.

[A]

What are you doing?

[C]

How did you get in? How are you still?

[B]

I'm worried about you now. Even though Hillary is very.

[C]

We know what really happened.

[B]

Yeah, that's right.

[C]

We know what really happened.

[B]

Dave the lizard people.

[C]

He was dragged to the park.

[B]

Even though she's very upset, Hillary knew there could be personal legal info in Foster's office and doesn't want the Justice Department to have it.

[A]

What an amazing.

[B]

So this is. And we know this now because we've watched it over decades, but Hillary has a real problem with privacy. Like, no, no, no, no, no. You can't know. And she has been attacked. But also she doesn't see the problems is going to cause with what she's doing. You know what I mean?

[A]

Right.

[C]

Clear out the files.

[B]

If there's nothing illegal in there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's best for you to let it be transparent. Be transparent because this is what's going to happen.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, there's probably something illegal.

[A]

Counterpoint.

[C]

There's a reason those files came with us the district and were not left in Little Rock.

[B]

So papers. Oh, sorry. She spoke with the White House counsel, Bernard Nussbaum, and over angry objections from the Justice Department, Nussbaum demanded to go through the office first and decide what would go to justice and what wouldn't. One of those was a file labeled Whitewater, which he gave to the Clinton's personal lawyer. So the Justice Department and the Parks Department both rule Foster's death a suicide. But conservatives start yelling, who killed Vince Foster?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because they did rummage through his files.

[B]

They did. Like, it's very.

[A]

It's like.

[C]

Jesus Christ.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

It's like very like a guy. In their mind. They're just like, we know him. He killed himself. It's sad. But in everyone else's mind, they're like a dead guy up. There's a body and files missing. Like that's all it is. God damn. So they roll it a suicide. Conservatives are. They have who killed Vince Foster? Bumper stickers.

[C]

Immediately.

[B]

Immediately. Bumper stickers.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know the right wing propaganda machine now manifests mostly in podcasts.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah. What's up? I'm a 5am Bro guy. Let me tell you about alphas and betas. And I'm not. Somehow I'm stumbling onto tops and bottoms.

[A]

But.

[C]

We talk about alpha and beta men. But back then, like for the technology, they were quick. They were well funded.

[B]

They were.

[C]

They had the bumper stickers immediately. It was out on Rush Limbaugh.

[A]

Effective. Yeah.

[C]

Newspapers. They owned half the newspapers back then.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And it was. They just like any. I mean, it was. Yeah, it was like Rush. When Rush started, it was just like a shit throwing contest because he was. He had like that four hour block a day where he was just kind of testing out new material.

[B]

Yeah. So Russia is telling millions of people that the Clintons are lying about Foster.

[A]

Foster.

[C]

Vince Foster, ladies and gentlemen.

[A]

Brush. Rush Limbaugh going deaf, pounding oxycontin.

[C]

My career has really been resuscitated by the liberal regime of Bill Clinton.

[B]

So Gingrich, Newt Gingrich starts pushing for an investigation. Short conspiracy films are made about the Clinton systematically murdering scores of people.

[A]

What's also amazing during this time is that their party, aside from Gingrich, is run by a full on pedophile. Right. Who isn't? Dennis Hastert.

[B]

We haven't gotten him.

[C]

He's not, he's not running up.

[A]

Oh, he's not.

[B]

Well, he just blew that exciting tidbit coming later.

[C]

I like, I like that. You do know things.

[B]

He does know. He knows all his pedophiles.

[A]

Oh, yeah. I'm big into the pedophiles. My heroes.

[B]

A congressman who is the chairman of the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee conducted his own ballistic tests in his backyard and reported on his findings on the House floor. Wait, what do you mean not a suicide?

[C]

Yeah. Now we got. We got half a bottle of Wild Turkey out here. And I'm gonna come out here and I'm gonna blow my own hand off to make a point. Right here in the backyard, ladies and gentlemen.

[B]

I mean, you can only imagine, right, he probably had like a melon. Yeah, he's like redid it and he's.

[C]

Like, no way that happened.

[A]

I have a Native American shaman here to also. If there's enough smoke, then Vince Vaughn. There is a Vince Vaughn fire here. Since Foster and Vince Vaughn.

[B]

They'Ve always.

[A]

Been rain dancer thoughts.

[B]

After three months of working on it, Bill finally realizes he can't have the deficit and investments in education at the same time.

[A]

Jesus Christ.

[B]

And he yelled, quote, we are losing our soul. It's turning into a Wall street plan. Nothing for the people elected him.

[A]

He's. He. Who's he saying that to. He's saying that just his staff crying in the White House.

[C]

It's a Wall street plan.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I feel so betrayed by, by tying myself to them and telling them in private fundraisers that I would obey them. And now they're running the show.

[A]

Who could say this cover.

[B]

But he's already, he's got, he's got Alan Greenspan there and I don. Larry Summers is there yet. But he's brought in Wall street guys who are saying the deficit is a problem. So. And if you believe them, then you've already. Yeah, because they've already framed the narrative and now you're going well.

[A]

And it worked. I mean the deficit has worked so incredibly well as far as being a talking point or whatever.

[B]

So he. A biographer said Bill always ends up agreeing with the deficit. Deficit obsessed experts venom between the parties increases. Republicans want no new spending and Bill wouldn't cut expanding the earned income tax credit and tripled it. Now like you said, Democrats, I think, or maybe the Republicans controlled the Senate at this point.

[C]

Not told in 95.

[B]

So he still has the Senate if.

[C]

It'S before the, the midterms.

[B]

Yeah, he definitely has the House.

[C]

He has the Senate too.

[B]

He does have the Senate.

[A]

Well, that doesn't really matter though.

[C]

But, but right, but he's lots of Republicans.

[B]

He, he.

[C]

Veto power.

[B]

No, he, he. It's the conservative. It's the blue dog type.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Democrats, there's always a problem.

[A]

And if it's not them, it'll be the parliamentary filibuster power. Yeah.

[B]

So. So the House passes their version and the one thing his red line is he's not going to cut the earned income tax credit that he wants to give increasing it. So the House passes their version and the Senate passes theirs and then they need to be reconciled. So now Democrats are dragging their feet and Bill gets on the phone with Senator Democrat, Senator Robert Kerry. I think he's from Nebraska, but he's a conservative. Damn. Who is a no. He's a no vote. He's like, I'm not gonna vote for this.

[C]

Back before all those guys got flipped over into Republicans.

[B]

Republicans. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Bill, quote, if you want to bring this presidency down, go ahead. I took on the most difficult problem the country faced and suddenly I'm regretting it. I wish I hadn't done it. Kerry, quote, I really resent the argument that somehow I'm responsible for your presidency surviving and build. Yell fuck you if that's what you want, go do it and slam down the phone.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

It's called winning people Over.

[A]

Ah.

[B]

So they got, they got Warren Buffett.

[A]

It's a great start.

[B]

To call Kerry. Buffett's from Nebraska, right? Yeah, that's probably why. So they got Warren Buffett.

[C]

As long as it's a Wall street game.

[B]

So they get Buffett to call Kerry and then Kerry flips his vote.

[A]

Wow, that's awesome. Good for us.

[B]

Is it awesome?

[A]

Yeah. That's our system working. That's the system in action.

[B]

And this spending bill passes with a tie breaking vote from Gore. Raises taxes on the wealthiest, funded free vaccine for poor kids and expanded the earned income tax credit, which is fucking nothing.

[C]

Almost nothing.

[B]

It's fucking nothing.

[C]

Yep, it was. I remember living through that where it was like we've done it. A means tested partial cosmetic benefit to your dad's sister.

[B]

Hey, here's what's going to happen. Two year old poor kids aren't going to die a croup. God damn it. The North American Trade Agreement. Free Trade Agreement. NAFTA has already been negotiated by H.W. bush, but is not ratified.

[C]

Well, we've got to support that because it's against the US economy.

[B]

This is the really crazy thing about their thinking. So Bill is worried about passing it because a big Democratic voting bloc, labor, don't want to lose all their jobs.

[A]

Yeah. No, it makes sense. I can't believe it. I did not know it was ratified by George Bush. Bush had it ratified.

[B]

No, Bush didn't have it ratified.

[A]

It's not ratified, but it's his plan.

[B]

It's. It's been negotiated.

[A]

Right?

[C]

We. We've already lost Detroit. How much more can we afford to lose?

[A]

How about if we Detroit America Environmentalists.

[B]

Are also opposed to it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

An advisors said he would alienate Dems if he pushes an afterthrow.

[A]

It sounds like all upside.

[B]

And then Treasury Secretary Lloyd Benson slammed his fist down and said Bill needed to fight for NAFTA for the good of the United States.

[C]

So that's how you wield power in the Clinton administration. You slam your face or the phone.

[A]

Look at Lloyd. Hold on a minute. Can anyone punch a bigger hole in this table? That's unbelievable. It's like Thor's hammer.

[B]

Al Gore was also for it.

[C]

Mr. President, I knew Jack Kennedy. I served with Jack Kennedy.

[A]

How big was. How big was it?

[C]

And he wanted nafta.

[A]

I shook his hand.

[B]

So Bill agrees. He truly. They truly believe. This is where I got to go back to their stupid. Yeah, they truly believe that free trade is a cure all and is going to unleash the economy. And everybody will be working. Sure, some will lose their jobs, but then we're all going to have jobs.

[A]

It's very AI ish in a way. It's like a less, maybe a less like fully diluted AI, but there is this sort of like thinking where they're like, yeah, you will lose like even hearing Elon.

[C]

That's why I keep saying the word education, because I'm not saying the word job. There's not going to be as many of them, but we're going to have education. So then later on, if you, if you're not the member of your family that dies of depression and addiction because you've lost your job, then you'll get a lower paying job. We'll never discuss that part. How the new jobs are always a little bit lower paying than the old.

[B]

Why would you want to work for Ford when you can work for Jack in the Box?

[A]

Why don't you code, Everybody code.

[B]

So it looks like it's not going to pass. And then Gore, without Bill's permission.

[A]

I'll handle this.

[B]

Offers to debate anti NAFTA Ross Perot on Larry King Live.

[A]

Ah, what the.

[C]

Yeah, I don't want to be the.

[A]

Face of this, Mr. President. I will handle this. And now hold on there. Hold on. I want a little ladder. I want a little ladder if I want to debate him anywhere. You understand?

[C]

Rio Grande is turning to turn into Grand Rio.

[B]

Dueling, perhaps.

[C]

So also, everyone was Southern. Like every, like everybody was Southern. Yeah, I guess. Still you turn the TV on, it would always be like, I disagree with it.

[A]

No, it was more prevalent to be southern. Yeah. I mean, even Al Gore. Now, hold on now.

[C]

I'm a more dignified.

[B]

I own the plantation.

[A]

I like the boombox that's running out of batteries.

[C]

I'm like the man that many of you hate, except I don't have a much sex.

[A]

Now, hold on a minute. What?

[C]

I stand for an equally low amount of things.

[A]

I sound like if Ross Perot was running out of battery charge.

[B]

I sound like if my wife is fighting twisted sister.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

One of the best things ever. Maybe I'll do a dollop about that.

[A]

Now wait a minute. That sister ain't twisted enough.

[C]

The Energizer Bunny, he keeps going and going and going, but if this NAFTA passes, he ain't gonna go.

[A]

He ain't gonna have enough battery.

[B]

That giant sucking Sam. Okay, Gore.

[C]

Rossborough was right about all that, by the way. Completely right.

[B]

100.

[A]

Right.

[C]

But the, the entire news media.

[A]

Well, how.

[C]

But to be fair, nafta.

[A]

But to be fair, how could you get through to what Ross Perot was saying?

[C]

Right. Well, I think. I think very similar to Alex Jones, if somebody crazy is saying the right thing, they're like, oh, put the microphone on here.

[A]

Right.

[C]

To discredit it.

[A]

Now, wait a minute.

[B]

So Gore crushes him in the debate. He said, nafta, we create more jobs than it would cost. And he attacked pro because he had dealings with Mexico one time. And after the. The Larry king live episode, Mr. Perot, your response?

[A]

We are. Now, wait a minute.

[B]

Pro's popularity just nose dives. I mean, he crushes, he kills Perot. And the new.

[A]

Put me in a tiny casket and put me underground. Two feet, not six. I'm coming back. There will be a full moon, and you will see my tiny fist pop out of that circle.

[C]

The Terminator has nothing.

[B]

But I am immortal. New Dems really believe that free trade is going to solve most of the problems. I mean, that's what they're. That's what they.

[A]

That is, again, where I try. I do get caught up. They are dumb, I think nefarious, not fully stupid.

[B]

I think that they're. I think it's a combination of both.

[A]

Yeah, right. Right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think their. Their corruption leads them to be stupid.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I think the large plan has been put in motion already, you know, by Reagan. But then they're like, let's keep looting the country.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, Bill Clinton is at this point, just doing. He's Reagan. This is all Reagan now.

[A]

Well, they're all Reagan.

[B]

So then he gets a victory with the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention act, which creates a federal background check and waiting period on handguns. The next month, NAFTA passes the House.

[C]

I look good. It doesn't do much, but we look good.

[A]

It's a version of bump stocks.

[B]

The next month, NAFTA passes the House. Less than half of Democrats vote for it.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

A congresswoman said Bill, quote, abandoned the real core of the Democratic Party and represents Wall street, not Main Street.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Nafta, of course, would hollow out factories for years. Perot was right.

[A]

What did I tell you?

[B]

But Bill has two big wins, right? They're like, he won.

[A]

Yeah. Well, yeah.

[B]

They always. The President, no matter what the legislation is, he won.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Conservatives kept Whitewater alive. Advisors told the Clintons they were not.

[C]

Grateful that he passed their Reagan Bush trade plan.

[A]

That is the other thing.

[C]

They weren't like, this guy's great. They're like, thank you, and we're still gonna keep trying.

[A]

Well, they're like now we'll go to further to the right and say that you're not right enough.

[B]

He can't, he can't. He, he think. They always think that they're going to get Republicans and Republicans just hate them more.

[A]

Yeah, they, I mean that they do that. They've lost that war.

[B]

It's been going on forever.

[A]

40 years.

[B]

Crazy to watch.

[A]

Yeah, they just did that with the border.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. They just said. Yeah. And yeah. So they keep, they're keeping Whitewater alive. Obviously they're right. Advisors told the Clintons to release their financial records to calm it down. And Bill was okay with it, but Hillary's like, absolutely not. We're not releasing our records. Quote, these are my papers. They belong to me. I could throw them in the Potomac river if I wanted to.

[A]

Wow, that's so weird.

[B]

When the Whitewater records were eventually released, you know, a long time down the road, they showed nothing illegal.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

There was nothing in them.

[C]

I love that. That quote lives up there with all the great first ladies of history. Eleanor Roosevelt, Mimi Eisenhower. They're my goddamn. You know, there's probably. That's what you really said. They're my fucking cunt faced papers. I will throw them in the goddamn river, boy.

[B]

I mean it's the same thing as when she had all those emails on her server at home. It's all, it's this crazy paranoia.

[A]

Yeah. Well, she also knows that they will make something out of so little. But you'd rather that than.

[B]

But they'll make, They'll.

[A]

Yeah, they're going to do it either. Right? Yes.

[B]

They'll make something out of little. Never give them a void. They will fill it.

[A]

Yes. Right, right.

[B]

Don't give him a void.

[A]

Give them. Yes.

[B]

That we've seen a million times when. Oh, sorry I said that there just. All it showed was that she made a killing in commodities in 1979, turning a thousand into a hundred thousand and cattle futures. Some thought she was worried that the files would lead to speculation of an affair between Bill and McDougall's wife, which.

[A]

Is like, like such a.

[B]

Well, of course that's such a excuse. Also like he's had affairs with everybody.

[A]

We cann let people know that I might have straight.

[C]

We imagine we have a, we have a, a document that before we go into business that has a. It's a, it's a boilerplate document that says I will be having an affair. And then there's a blank space and.

[A]

There'S eight lines under it. It's got petition spacing.

[B]

And the rumors of his affairs are now fucking rampant.

[A]

State troopers, which is such a turnout, by the way.

[B]

That's my kink.

[A]

That is so hot.

[B]

Arkansas state troopers are not coming forward with tons of stories. Bill's staff wants him to start an investigation into Whitewater to end it. And Hillary refuses, saying nothing. It's nothing. It shouldn't be an investigation. And when Stephanopoulos pushed for it, she broke into tears. And Bill asks, he goes to his advisors and he can you please convince her? And one said it was, quote, the biggest fucking waste of time.

[A]

I wonder if there was any water coming out of those.

[C]

Can you imagine? Would you if someone assigned you the job? Hey, could you please go convince Hillary Clinton?

[A]

That is the dream. That is the dream role for Dave.

[B]

My favorite Hillary story is her assistant Una, who was married to Weiner.

[A]

Yeah. Who met Abedin or whatever.

[B]

And I know this from an insider. They sat Hillary down and they said, you have to cut her loose because he is gonna up somehow. He's gonna come in and this she. If she.

[C]

After his scandal or before.

[B]

I think it's after his first scandal.

[A]

Before his second one.

[B]

And they sat her down and they said because her campaign's going on and like he, this, this, this is gonna blow up, Carlos. She's a nightmare. And she has to cut him loose or you have to cut her loose. And she's like, nope, I've been friends with ever. I'm sticking with her. And that's the thing. And then remember at the end of like September, that's what's got the Comey files released and all that. It was wiener. He came back and all his people were just like, yeah, this is obvious anyhow, Anthony.

[C]

How did Anthony Weiner manage to have a wiener that embarrassed Hillary Clinton more than her husband?

[A]

Like, Bill was like, he's a fucking threat. That guy's a pervert.

[C]

He's got pictures of it. I never take pictures, by the way.

[A]

Nice pecker, though. Game. Respect. Game.

[B]

So we have troops in Somalia as part of a UN mission and after a raid in which we killed a bunch of elders in this warlords clan a couple months later, his men down to us Blackhawk helicopters that kill soldiers dragging bodies to the streets of Mogadishu.

[C]

93, 94. Yeah.

[B]

Worst losses in one battle since Vietnam. Bill to an aid quote, when people kill us, they should be killed in greater numbers.

[A]

I mean, it would take you a minute if you heard the president say.

[C]

But it's been a long time since that beard. It's been A long time since the Paul McCartney look, and no longer am I never inhaling. Now it's time for me to not exhale.

[B]

Well, he wants to do a big offensive, send in tanks and troops, but the Pentagon and Congress resist, and he compromises. There's a surge of troops, but then they pull out quickly. After you got to a week later, US advisors and engineers are going to Haiti for the UN and they're forced into a retreat by a mob throwing rocks and chanting, quote, we are going to turn this into another Somalia.

[A]

Well, that's a little much.

[B]

So Bill now adds new restrictions to peacekeeping operations. So the answer to all that is real in peacekeeping right now.

[C]

We are no longer going to keep any peace. We will find what the oil company position is in any conflict, and we will guard the pipeline.

[A]

There you go.

[B]

January 1994. Bill's mother dies. He's pretty out of it. He's upset, and he wants to get it over with. So he asked Attorney General Janet Reno to appoint a special prosecutor for Whitewater.

[A]

Huh. Okay, what if that's his reaction to his mother's death?

[B]

Well, he just doesn't want to investigate. He doesn't want to deal with the. He's just like.

[A]

He sort of loses it.

[B]

He's taking him too much fucking time. And he's like, why am I waiting for Hillary when this could just be dealt with?

[A]

Right. Also, they invented a vagina you could carry around your pocket. You heard about this? This thing? Awesome pocket pussy, they call it. Have you heard about it? Investigate Whitewater.

[B]

So everyone's for it except White House lawyer Nussbaum, who thought it was a bad move. He said Republicans would not stop at Whitewater. Quote, they will chase you, your family and your friends through the presidency and beyond. It's right. Republican prosecutor Robert Fisk is picked, and he, a couple months later submits an interim report saying Foster was a suicide. There's no proof of wrongdoing by the Clintons and Republicans flip out and they want him fired.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So he's gone. Lawyer and Bush administration veteran Ken Starr is a conservative.

[A]

Oh, shit.

[B]

That's never been a prosecutor of any kind. He is selected.

[A]

It came out of this kid.

[C]

It star.

[A]

Oh, our favorite. I forgot.

[B]

So now you've got. You've got the Justice Department, the Parks police force, and an independent prosecutor all saying, yeah, nothing going on here. And they still go for more.

[A]

Right.

[B]

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More words.

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Insurance. It wasn't health care for every American. It was health insurance.

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Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah.

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He set the reality of that.

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Yeah.

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Healthcare. You guys are gonna love this.

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I'm a wizard of the Overton window and I just slammed it shut on your fingers.

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And nobody will fix those unless you have health insurance.

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Now, health care for all began with the presidential primary campaigns of 1988 when Jesse Jackson ran on universal health care. Single payer for all.

[A]

When he's Rainbow Coalition.

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Rainbow Coalition. And that's when. That's when. That's. That's what got Bernie Sanders all up on Jesse Jackson's team.

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Yeah, right. Yeah.

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Look.

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I will.

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I will do my best to get Vermont on your side.

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The biggest.

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I delivered Vermont for Jesse Jackson in 1988.

[B]

Oh. So the Democratic establishment is very against it. They called it too radical, but it mobilized the base. So the base is all fired up and the party's against it. If you can imagine that the DLC are very against it. So in 92, Clinton just takes Jackson's campaign slogan, putting people first and called for universal coverage.

[A]

Universal coverage.

[B]

The Financial Times quote, clinton has borrowed extensive from Jesse Jackson in 1988. He sounds like a Swedish Social Democrat. But Bill.

[C]

New York Times said that like it was a bad thing.

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No, the Financial Times.

[C]

Financial Times also said it like a bad thing.

[B]

Yeah, but Bill doesn't want single payer.

[A]

With a rainbow corporation.

[B]

He wants what is called managed care competition.

[A]

Now think about Obamacare. Well, that's a bit lofty.

[B]

It's a little bit worse. Insurance companies having control over health care providers and all doctors in HMOs.

[C]

Everything in HMO.

[B]

Basically, the free market is going to solve health care. That's what they're setting it up for. For the free market to solve it now.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Problems with the free market, solving health care. Patients don't.

[A]

There are.

[B]

Some patients don't determine the cost or price of medical services.

[A]

Is that an issue?

[B]

Patients have very little choice. Yeah.

[C]

You can't boycott a doctor in any way that works.

[B]

Employers mostly choose the plans.

[A]

They're which that. But you know, their heart's in the right place.

[B]

The market does not exist in the healthcare sector. To make money, health insurance companies have to discriminate heavily against heavy care users.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So the White House said managed care would work if there was regulation, but also never said who would regulate it.

[A]

Oh my God. I mean it's perfectly Democrat.

[B]

Insurance companies and large employers want managed care.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Healthcare companies, labor unions and social movements do not want managed care because it's anti person.

[A]

Yeah. Right. Yeah.

[C]

It's anti human.

[A]

Right. Anti health.

[B]

And so Hillary is put in charge of health care reform. Bill always said you get two presidents for the price of one. And he was. I remember this whole thing as people were like flipping out about how can they put her in charge. And he's like, she's really smart. Which she is very smart.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

But she's not Clinton. I will. She's a. She's a very bad politician.

[C]

And he says, well, I think we're gonna lose this one. So we need a smart person in charge of it also.

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Again, gets her out of the White House a lot, which is awesome.

[C]

You could be down on the hill.

[A]

Honey, baby, go down there for a long time. Don't come back till you figured it out.

[B]

So she creates a task force. There are no lefties on this task force. So Jesse Jackson and the the leader of the biggest healthcare workers union meet with Hillary and she says, okay, they can have someone on the task force.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Their pick was ostracized. Quote, I had the feeling I was in the White House. As a token, unions get 200, 000 signatures for single pair. So Bill tells the task force they have to do something.

[A]

Kill workers, explode factory workers.

[B]

They end up putting in one sentence that allows states to choose single payer if they want the public option they want.

[A]

And they do, for sure.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

State by state. Look, Confederate states can have Confederate rules and Canadian states can have the good stuff.

[B]

But remember, this came out, this was birthed out of a people's movement, Jesse Jackson's people's movement. But they never try to mobilize people to support reform because the people don't support an alliance with the health care industry. That's actually what they're against. So there's all this dialogue between business executives, the White House and insurance companies, like that's who's doing all the talking to create a health care plan.

[A]

Excuse me, the people.

[B]

They're not talking to the people. They're not talking to Congress. And once it's done, health insurance companies are against it because they have to put in some regulation.

[C]

Yeah, we, I know we wrote this for you, but we still don't like it.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

So they literally came up with a healthcare plan that nobody wanted. Remember when we said that earlier, nobody want, nobody wanted was a loser.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Let me tell you something I learned about triangulation from Pythagoras. A squared plus B squared equals C squared. But if it's labor and business, you're gonna square those and plus them together, that's not always gonna equal C squared.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

There's variables at play here.

[B]

So Hillary was told by different people the only way from the beginning, the only way to pass health care reform is to frame it as a battle between the people and corporations. And she acted as if those people did not understand how politics works. Well, she also.

[A]

There you go.

[B]

Had to stroke the egos of Congress, but she didn't. Some like John Dingell, so that like the health care guys in Congress, the guys are like, we got to do health care stuff. John Dingell, he sends word that the, the plan he's hearing about sounds like chaos. Basically saying, hey, tell me what's going on? And they don't. Others thought the White House didn't understand the legislative process. The main republic in Congress, who is considered the intellectual father of managed competition plan, was completely ignored. A memo was sent, quote, he could be a problem, particularly in the press, if we don't get him to at least feel we are considering his opinions. Sure enough, he became an outspoken guy against. And when the plan is released, ready to be released In September of 1993, Dems in Congress tell Bill they hadn't seen the plan. They don't know anything about it. There is literally no one to support it.

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Congress doesn't support it because they ignored the progressives and all of Congress. So the progressives don't support it because it's a shitty plan. The centrists don't support it because nobody talked to them and they don't know and they couldn't get anything in that they wanted. So when health care companies fought against it and they did a big blitz against it, they won easily because they failed in building it up. And now the narrative was, well, we tried to pass healthcare reform, but the healthcare companies came out so strongly and it's like, no, you up. And there was again, a void.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And what filled the void? The bad guys.

[C]

Did they have those. They had an ad campaign where there was a husband and wife at the breakfast table.

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Yes.

[C]

That was like, I don't like how this is gonna be expensive.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You.

[C]

You could just put out any ad like that. And it's true in the 90s, it's true today, where it's like, well, I represent an obviously funded, billionaire funded, fake person that has, what do you know, pro corporate opinions at my breakfast table. And most people go like, oh, this looks like somebody I know in my life.

[A]

That's what they do with the props, too. Every time the props roll out, it's like some woman in a kitchen and she's like, unfortunately, though, it's going to raise the price of watermelon. And I can't afford that.

[C]

And I can't afford that right now.

[A]

You're just like, oh, for sake. It's so obvious.

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We're a watermelon family.

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Yeah.

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And.

[A]

But then it says right down at the bottom what's going on?

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But they're, they're like, they're like, we're not targeting the people who see how dumb the ad is.

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Yeah.

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We're targeting people who go like, oh, an ad said something.

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It works. It's pretty good. And at least get most of them get across the line.

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But if you're, if you're brought to.

[A]

You by Coke industries, if you're you.

[B]

Unions are fighting for it, if your.

[A]

Unions are fighting for it, if you're.

[B]

Fighting for it, if your social groups are fighting for it, if your Democratic congressmen are on board, well now you have a fight.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

But instead you don't have any of that.

[A]

No.

[C]

He was just it was, it was quintessentially Democrat.

[B]

It's like Holyfield fighting a five year old.

[C]

It was like Hillary personally herself versus the healthcare industry.

[B]

And the fact that she said to those other people who described exactly how you should do it that they don't know politics is exactly what's wrong with the party.

[A]

Right.

[C]

And she had pre compromised and given them everything they want it pre compromised. They I guess they thought a lot of the times oh we'll compromise and then they'll appreciate it.

[A]

Yeah right.

[B]

With no one for the only voices came from the right right wing war radio radio host told listeners to find Hillary and tell her what you think.

[C]

She was told we're recommending that you track her down and tell her what you think.

[A]

Blow dart Hillary and tag her.

[B]

She was told to wear a bulletproof vest to public appearances. Now Bill's advisors are like you know what? You gotta back off that veto promise. That's what's causing everyone to go crazy. It's the veto thing. You said you'd veto it if it's not 100% coverage. And so he gives a speech and he said maybe I'll agree to 95% coverage. And when he gets off the stage Hillary calls him quote what the fuck are you doing up there? You get back here right away. The next day he backed off the 95 Comet.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Health care reform died weeks ahead of the midterms and hundreds of thousands of people died. Hundreds of thousands of people died because of this.

[A]

It's so classic.

[B]

And the nar the crazy thing about the Clintons and doing research on them is I remember everything and I remember everything very clearly because political junkie. And when I watch now I watch history being rewritten as they run for office or do this thing or do that thing. Their history is always being rewritten by people.

[A]

The Clinton's history.

[B]

Like so when Hillary runs there was a big blitz in the media of how she would be great for health care reform.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Because she was a tried and she knew the guys to fight. Right. Yeah she right she and she did her best and those big bad guys took her out. And it's like, no, she up horrifically well.

[A]

And then what you, like you were saying earlier, James, like the fact that they were running away from McGovern like that scared. So then it really is. Then the Clintons do this and then the Democrats forever replicate what the Clintons did. Because Clinton is, because of that. He is look back on by centrists or whatever, the people who buy the my bills are gonna go up bullshit. They are revered as, as a great political family.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, they're like, most people still believe that.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

People have a what would Jesus do bracelet. I have A what would McGovern do and don't do it bracelet.

[A]

Which is tough because I'm in government.

[C]

And I love McDonald's and that's usually, you know, you know, stopping a war or helping the people.

[B]

Well, that was the.

[A]

When you said that thing about Somalia too. When he has a right wing mentality when it comes to the retaliation for Somalia, that I also wonder, I'm like, is that because. Is that who he is or is he again, an empty vessel who just tries to get ahead of the right wing thinking?

[B]

I think he's always trying to get out of the right wing thinking.

[A]

So it is, it's like, like, which is, you know, honestly, potentially worse. Really.

[C]

So he can go to the debate stage and be like, yeah, why do we even need a Republican president? I am doing the work of a Republican president.

[A]

And yet the Republican president then is a fucking psycho who's like, look at this, look at this. Lefty loon.

[B]

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[A]

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[C]

She was so far left.

[A]

So left. It's just she was. We can't do that now.

[C]

Communists. They were communists.

[A]

Bill Maher is just like, we need sensible centrists.

[B]

So several congressional committees are looking into Whitewater. The Senate special Whitewater committee, chaired by a Republican, had hearings for 11 months.

[A]

Jesus Christ.

[B]

Stars.

[A]

No health care, though.

[B]

Yeah. Stars team charged the McDougalls and the Arkansas governor, Jim Tucker with fraud. James McDougall had a mental breakdown and his savings alone went bust and needed a 50 million dollar bailout. And Bill's opponent said he forced that on taxpayers. Suspicion grew, but Star could find no Clinton crimes. Star's investigation was wrapping up. Up finding no wrongdoing by the Clintons.

[A]

Oh, what a relief. In April Turn the page.

[B]

In April night, in April 94, the Hutu genocide of the Tutsi began in Rwanda. And as it unfolded, the White House was completely silent. Bodies literally piling up in the streets. And they wouldn't call it a genocide. The State Department said more research was needed.

[A]

We're not sure.

[B]

The UN Security Council voted to pull most soldiers out, and the US didn't consider peacekeeping forces. In July, we sent troops, but just for security, in refugee camps. Bill, quote, from the beginning of this tragedy, the US has been in the forefront of the international community's response.

[C]

Tragedy is a great word to use when you refuse to use the word genocide and you can plug it into different regions throughout world history.

[A]

Let's play the genocide hokey pokey again. It's a tragedy.

[C]

Rwanda, Armenia, Palestine, it's a tragedy. Not that other thing.

[A]

Nobody wants that.

[B]

It is true that the US Was on the forefront of the international community response because there was no response that.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

So we did leave that.

[A]

That's the sweet spot. Idiot.

[C]

It was.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It was shocking. Yeah. I would expect it was. Ruling powers to have gone. In hindsight, I would expect them to be like, oh, we can use this to get involved and take over the country or something. They didn't even do that.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It was so shocking to live through. You were just like, what? Even. Even. It's one of those things where you have a low respect for people. You don't think much of them, and then they do this, and you're just like. Like, my God, they are so much more craven and awful than I thought.

[A]

And they. That happened. Like, that just truly happens in every administration where you're just like, where the. Are you on this?

[B]

I mean, they. Because it was. I mean, it was really gruesome.

[A]

Yeah, that was. It was crazy.

[B]

It was crazy.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Let's see what happens here.

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We call it a cena.

[B]

Waves of desperate Haitians continued to be turned back. Back.

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Are you political or economic? Let's have a look. Talk to us.

[B]

Are you coming here because you can't afford to eat, or does someone not like you?

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We're gonna do this voice style. So I'll have a chair spun around.

[C]

Oh, you know what? Your plea worked. I spun around.

[A]

All right, let's. Wow. I did not expect you to look like that. Reconsider.

[B]

Have you considered that your life, lucky or not, Tootsie Bill considered an armed intervention, but the US Public absolutely does not want that.

[A]

The polling told them that a lot.

[C]

Of the best things that I didn't do Were because the polls were like, nope. If I had been a leader, I'd be fdr.

[A]

If I'm not careful, I would have.

[C]

I would have just jumped straight to the fdr, wartime presence.

[A]

How bad was that?

[B]

He's just like. Like, he could see a rape in a bar happening and be like, do people think I should stop? You guys think I should stop this?

[A]

Well, I don't know. I don't know if that would be his perfect city. He'd be like, well, maybe. Hey, brother, why am I doing this? Let me know if you're tuckered out.

[B]

The Congressional Black Caucus want. Caucus wants intervention. So he changes his policy of immediately returning refugees. So they're not going to stop them in the boats and make them go back. So that leads to waves of refugees seeking asylum, and he sends them all to Guantanamo.

[A]

Me with that word. God damn it. Jesus.

[C]

There's capacity there.

[A]

No, no, no.

[B]

They are in rudimentary barracks. Garbage bags over windows. Some are sleeping outside. Inedible food, at times spoiled, at times filled with maggots. They don't have enough blankets. I mean, I remember reading about this, and it was just like, what in the are you doing? And black people in this country screaming like, what is going on now?

[A]

Someday a president's gonna come along and promise to close that place.

[B]

The US Tries to get other nations to take the refugees.

[A]

How are you? He's just calling Finland. How you been? Well, we. I'll tell you what. I just sitting here the other day. I have not talked to you in quite some time.

[C]

Can I interest you?

[B]

Oh, unfortunately, every country is like, I'm sorry, we're racist.

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I watched the Sound of Music the other day. You seen that man? You got some nice prairies out there.

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Spacious.

[A]

Oh, that was Austria. Well, either way.

[B]

Gore got Bill to set a date for an invasion. So he's finally like, you have to invade. Set a date.

[C]

Al Gore.

[B]

Al Gore.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Got him to agree to Al Gore invade Haiti.

[B]

Everything everybody says about Gore when they're like, this wouldn't have happened when. If Gore was an office instead of Bush. I. I really ask you to read about Al Gore from, say, like, 85 to 90, 99, and then tell me that, right?

[C]

We would. We would have an American allied prince heap of the entire Caribbean.

[B]

So Bill goes on TV and tells the hunter who were in charge, quote, leave now or we will force you from power. Now Jimmy Carter comes in and offers to go to Haiti and negotiate. Because, of course, Jimmy Carter was having phone calls with the junta leaders for Weeks. This of course he's been taught. Who's been talking to him now.

[C]

Now I understand that you have a faith in the Lord as I do as well. And I am. I currently have my. My study bible open to Deuteronomy 4:6.

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Also can I interest you in some peanuts?

[B]

So Carter goes with Colin Powell and Senator Nunn.

[C]

Oh, just like a nice summer trip. Boys trip, boys trip.

[A]

Take one more. Let's do Silly Faces.

[B]

But it's not going well. Negotiations are not going anywhere.

[C]

The fuck the dead Colin Powell is like. This guy won't stop eating his peanuts.

[A]

Do you mind if I throw the shells on the ground of the plane?

[C]

Sam Nunn is just drinking in the.

[A]

Pool and call mission.

[B]

Colin Powell is just trying to figure out a war crime to cover.

[C]

Well they were. That was. That's what would have happened.

[B]

Happened. Yes. So Bill sends the planes as the deadline passes. And once the junta hears the planes are in the air, they quickly agree and to to leave. And Bill gets to tell the American public that war has been averted. But everyone gives credit to Carter.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So Bill promises to get tough on crime and it's just so.

[C]

Well, I think that we've. All these adventures have been a little bit too far to the left here in my first year in office we have. I don't want to be known as the left wing guy. We have to do a little bit in the other swinging direction of the pen.

[A]

By the way, not sex crimes.

[B]

He signs the Violent Crime Control and Law enforcement act of 1994. Mostly written by a Senator Joe Biden with help from the national association of Police Organizations. It is the most wide ranging federal crime legislation passed in US history. Support was higher among black people than whites. Black pastors had lobbied for it because crack was devastating black communities. The act became a tool to mass incarcerate people disproportionately young black men for longer time periods. States got billions to build more prisons. The Ben and Center of justice quote. For a period. New prisons opened every 15 days on average.

[A]

Oh my God. Oh, my arm is tired from all this ribbon cutting. Look at us.

[C]

Well, look, we are gonna. There's a silver lining here. Or Cl. Should I call it a crimson lining? We are going to have so much blood plasma.

[A]

Oh my Lord Canada.

[C]

Hey, Trudeau. Trudeau, are you on the line?

[A]

Where did it come from? Don't worry about it.

[B]

Here come the blood.

[A]

Absolutely pure.

[C]

Is this. I don't know. The. I know. For example, the last 20 years at least the US has a prison Population that's the largest in the world besides some very small strange countries, like. But of all the big countries and all the developed countries, by far, far.

[B]

And.

[C]

I believe in raw numbers and per capita more than China.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[C]

But was this the case before that? Or did the crime bill take us up this ticket? So the crime bills went, look, we finally beat China at something.

[B]

I mean, it wasn't great. We were probably leading before, but this made it go fucking astronomical.

[A]

Well, and this is also the governor's mansion. 13th amendment loophole. Free labor.

[C]

I am always surprised. I guess I shouldn't be. There's no good guys with any budget that no one ever makes a political issue of how we have the most prisoners in the world.

[B]

No, they don't.

[C]

No. You're only supposed to know that if you read too much. And no one else is supposed to know about that.

[A]

Well, it's because it's like scary econ. I mean, that is. The United States economy is so fickle and fragile. And that is a large component.

[C]

That should be an easy campaign slogan. I think we should have fewer people in jail per capita than China does.

[B]

Yeah. See what they say. Or even the scary authoritarian China that.

[C]

You'Re all worried about, Maybe even the head count. Maybe we should have fewer people in prison than a country four times as large as us.

[B]

So between NAFTA and the health care bill.

[A]

Things are good.

[B]

It killed off the Democratic majority in the House, which Dems have controlled since 1955. All right, those who are. Who want to save Bill's reputation, always blame the gun control bill.

[A]

But.

[B]

But the exact same number of Republicans voted in 1990 as in 1994.

[A]

Well, that's a problem.

[B]

The difference is Democrats stayed home. Labor. Right. The people who were wanted health care. They stayed home because of failure. And that empowered the right and demoralized the left. And that became known as the Republican.

[C]

Revolution, the Contract with a Contract with America.

[A]

And it became Dude Gig Richard. And then it became the Chuck Schumer plan of we go get Republicans now.

[B]

I mean, that's what Bill's plan was.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

But Democrats. And now it's different because there's fewer Democrats than Republicans because they fucked up so bad. But Democrats always lost because fewer Democrats came out. It was never more Republicans. It was always, do they show up?

[C]

There's a ceiling of Republican support. And that's why over the decades of my life, the Republican strategy has solidified around. Let's try to make sure nobody goes out and votes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

If it's Low turnout. The Republicans win.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Whether that's done by being unpopular Democrats or if it's a legal thing, illegally stopping people from voting.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

They're like, either way, as long as it's fewer of them, we're gonna win.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So NAFTA and healthcare empowered.

[A]

The ride is actually quite depressing.

[B]

I'm finding it is. This was called the Republican revolution. Bill, quote, I set up Congress for failure. He retreated into his own head and he went very quiet. And his passivity alarmed staff man.

[A]

I'm dying to shoot a load.

[C]

You ever see, you ever see the guy that makes you feel like you're the only person in the world and then he doesn't have much to say to you that week?

[A]

That's tough.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Sometimes I can't even look myself in the eyes.

[C]

Maybe I need a little pity myself.

[A]

I mean.

[B]

So he starts speaking more and more with his old aide, Dick Morris.

[A]

How you been?

[C]

Now your advice is always that I should go to the right.

[A]

So what should I do?

[C]

I've been doing that already. Yeah.

[B]

It's weird that a Republican would tell him to go to the right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So most in Bill's orbit saw Morris as a bit of a sleazeball. But Bill depended on him for his next moves. And his involvement was kept a complete secret because Morris was a Republican who worked for Republicans and he was given a code name Charlie by those who knew about him.

[C]

Charlie, don't surf.

[B]

Stephanopoulos said he was, quote, you know.

[C]

What, you know, I dodged the draft during Vietnam because I didn't understand the fireworks I was stepping on with that one. He's called Charlie.

[B]

Stephanopoulos said he was, quote, a small sausage of a man who looked like a B movie mob lawyer.

[A]

Jesus Christ.

[B]

People said he had actually, when is.

[C]

Stephanopoulos's Vegas stand up show? Honestly, I want to see his roast show.

[A]

This was when Dennis Miller was writing for me.

[B]

Other people said he had absolutely no morals. So Republican Newt Gingrich, the new speaker of the House, called Contract with America, called Dennis.

[C]

I always sound like I have a small road that I've halfway devoured into my throat world.

[B]

I mean, talk about a piece of that guy is like amazing. So he calls them, quote, the enemy of normal Americans with no concept of family and whatever. Is there any point to go into it?

[A]

No, it really isn't. It really isn't. But the, the idea that this guy.

[B]

He was having a well known affair with his now current wife.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She was an employee of the whatever.

[A]

Yeah. On his wife's deathbed he's like I found better guys gotch a congressman and.

[C]

I. I'm doing you a favor not pulling the plug. I want to keep you.

[A]

I want you to be alive for this.

[B]

And he told his wife that he was leaving her because his. His. The lady's having an affair with.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Was said that she would let him whoever he wants if they're married.

[A]

You understand? Can she hear me doctor?

[B]

Because who doesn't?

[A]

She'll let me finish in anyone. Do you understand?

[B]

Can she hear who doesn't want to bang Newt G. Beautiful.

[A]

Yeah. A human.

[C]

Well I. I knelt there next to the bed and gave her a chance to recant her position and she didn't and she just. She was, she was unable to do anything.

[B]

Yeah she just kept cancering.

[A]

It's cancer culture.

[B]

So a congressman quote Gingrich pursue persuaded the Republicans that venom was the way to succeed.

[A]

Read.

[B]

He blamed Democrats for Woody Allen's creepy relationship with his stepdaughter and falsely accused a high ranking Dem of being a pedophile.

[C]

Well I mean which guy was this? I don't even remember the accusation.

[B]

I forgot to look it up. I don't know who he called it. Bill started to get himself together for the State of the Union and relied on Morris and they wrote the speech.

[C]

To win over 95 January State of.

[B]

The Union I guess they wrote the speech to win over white guys who thought they were not paid enough and convinced Bill was coming for their guns. And it worked. He got almost a hundred applause breaks.

[C]

100 applause breaks we are here in a world that will not tolerate crime from people who are not white.

[B]

21 year old intern Monica Lewinsky started at the White House when she met Bill. He gave her quote the full Bill Clinton. It feels as if you're the only person standing there. Ah, his legendary charm. Even Gingrich said quote I've got a problem. I get in these meetings and as a person I like the president. I melt when I'm around him. After I'm out, I need two hours to detoxify. My people are nervous about me going there because of the way I deal with.

[A]

Get him under the blanket. Get him some electrolytes. Get him under the blanket. Give him a scone, come back new.

[C]

He makes my tiny pecker clank around like a. Like a metal clitoris.

[A]

I was so aroused I had to go to my dying ex wife and.

[C]

Tell her he stroked my arm so thoroughly I handed him the other arm.

[A]

How are you? Well, we. Oh, that took a wild Turn, look.

[C]

Now I am 97 straight.

[A]

All right.

[C]

Newt Gingrich is one of the few guys that I've choke.

[A]

But no.

[C]

I choke Newt Gingrich. And he was in a position of power too. It's what he wanted.

[B]

He was the top.

[C]

He was the top boy. I did the choking.

[A]

Oh, boy. I'll tell you, we had to bring in a shop vac. The two of us nutted so much, it was like the Ghostbusters.

[C]

Hurry, hurry. Get some girls in here.

[A]

Hurry, quick.

[B]

My God.

[A]

I thought he gave the room.

[B]

I thought he was a squirter, the way that was going. Monica began what she called intense flirting via eye contact. An engineered brief public meetings. Morris came up with what he called triangulation. So they haven't even been doing it yet? I mean, they have, but not labeled. Labeled. Like now it becomes conscious where I think before it was just instinct.

[A]

You know what I mean? Yeah.

[B]

So it's Bill fast forwarding Newt Gingrich's plan, his agenda. So Bill would stand apart from both parties while taking ideas from each.

[C]

What a great idea from the Republican.

[A]

Advisor you have who could have seen this coming.

[C]

Give him what he wants so fast that he runs out of things that are on his agenda.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, but that is so fucking stupid. They'll be done right winging eventually. Then they'll run out. Then we can. Well, I don't know what we do then. I'll probably be dead. But whatever.

[B]

It's so dumb. Okay, but you know, it's what they do. So the new strategy emboldened Bill. And after the Oklahoma City city bombing in April 1995, which killed 106.

[C]

We're back, baby.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Woo. He went on 60 Minutes to discuss stopping future terrorists, which boosted his approval rating. Bosnian genocide is going on.

[C]

Oh, look at this. Terrorism is a big boost in the polls.

[B]

And Bill finally set up talks in Dayton, Ohio. And this led to a very drunk Boris Yeltsin discussing Russia acting as a restraining force. And on November 21, they agreed to a cease fire.

[A]

I agreed to what?

[B]

What I agreed to.

[A]

Does it still make sense and hold up? Okay.

[B]

Huge victory for Bill, who now looks stronger and more capable. Then Congressional Republicans shut down the government over the budget and Bill holds firm. And people blame the Republicans. When Bill met Bob Dole, Newt Gingrich and House Majority Leader Dick army, he basically told them to off. Army tried to say something and Bill cut him off and said he'd called Hillary a Marxist during the health care debate. Quote, I never ever have and never expect you to expect to criticize your wife or any member of your family. That was it. The meeting was over.

[A]

Wow. I mean, what a rude thing to call her. What an insane thing to call her.

[C]

How dare. Dare you call my sociopath wife a communist.

[A]

She. She does not have that level of empathy. You.

[B]

Gingrich told reporters he was upset because this. The meeting happened on Air Force One. And Garage comes out and tells reporters he's upset because Bill made him exit off the back ramp of the plane.

[A]

Go down the garbage chute.

[B]

And so then now papers start making fun of Gingrich for letting his feelings continue to shut down to the government.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And they. They hammered him over this. There's, like, a famous. I think it's the Post, and it's like, him with a baby bottle, like, crying.

[C]

I remember. I remember. They. I don't know how. How it looked doomed. I don't know how. Yeah, it looked doomed when it was happening.

[B]

Yeah, it did. Gingrich said he was ignored, but Bill staff then released a photo showing Bill chatting with him. Bill's approval ratings climb higher with the shutdown. The West Wing operated with a skeleton staff, and that meant interns.

[A]

Oh, Monica.

[C]

And it also meant the lights were. Weren't fully on. Oops. Government shut down.

[B]

Guess we're gonna have to go dark.

[A]

I guess we can use the strobe.

[C]

Hey, Monica, you see some candles and some flashlights over there?

[A]

The White House just became ski school.

[B]

It's always late night at the White House now.

[A]

Is it possible to get a hot tub in here? Oh, la la. So more interns. I mean, just fucking, like, should we put more bananas in the chimp cage?

[B]

Monica Whitkey is an unpaid intern and asked to help. She was one of the few people.

[A]

Unpaid intern in the White House is also.

[B]

It's fucking crazy. I mean, fucking nuts. But it keeps.

[A]

Not a classic rock state.

[B]

Well, no, but it allows the rich to.

[A]

Yeah. Yes.

[B]

Yeah. That's all it is.

[A]

Of course, it's still insane because no.

[B]

Poor person can afford to do that.

[A]

Well, you do deserve a tip.

[B]

So she's down the hall from Bill answering phones, and she thought his glances are flirty. And once she left a room with Bill behind her and lifted up the back of her shirt enough to show off the top of her thong. That's like raw meat in front of a dog. I'm gonna eat that.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

And at this point, my reputation, unfortunately, had been devastated so much by these false allegations by the hundreds. A lot of people were curious if they were Hot enough for me to notice.

[A]

I can't help that I ended up on that throne.

[B]

I'm not a dead man.

[A]

Me, I need to floss.

[B]

Shortly after, Bill took her through Stephanopoulos's office then a hallway into the study by the Oval Office.

[A]

Look at that.

[B]

She said she had a crush on him and he asked if he could kiss her. And then they did. She gave him her number and went back to her position.

[A]

I cannot believe that it's so that he gets her number.

[B]

It's like.

[A]

It's, like crazy to think that that's how he outlive. Oh, I'll hit you up.

[B]

Right?

[A]

That's great. I'll call you this week.

[B]

Maybe we'll go out on Tuesday.

[A]

What are you doing? You like bowling?

[B]

You like Tuesday tacos? I got a special.

[A]

Come on.

[C]

I've been passing notes to her during Pentagon meetings.

[B]

That evening, he told her to meet him again.

[A]

Oh, God, he's so ready.

[B]

She did after taking off her underwear. They met in the hallway, kissing and partially undressing, and then went into the study. The phone rang.

[A]

Hello?

[B]

Bill picked it up and spoke to a congressman and followed her to, quote, an orgasm or two. He talked on the phone as she blew him. But he stopped her before he came, saying they didn't know each other well enough.

[A]

Wow. What the. What a cr. I mean, that's a very. That's one of the craziest things I've heard. I mean, in all of this. I think Vince Foster was killed.

[B]

That's nuts.

[A]

What?

[C]

Well, when you. When you got Bob Dole on the phone, you don't want to have. You want to have to go through.

[A]

Are you there, Mr. President? Are you there, Mr. President? What's happening? Are you following, Mr. President?

[B]

Coming.

[C]

Where are you? Coming down to Congress.

[A]

What are you doing, Mr. President?

[C]

Well, you wouldn't know.

[A]

Well, all right. Anyway.

[C]

You know how you hold that pin?

[A]

Absolutely.

[C]

She's holding something like that.

[A]

Who's she? Mr. President?

[B]

I can only come if I'm talking to Bob. Senator Bob Kerry.

[A]

Yeah, well, the problem is, Monica, I won't finish anything.

[B]

They met again two nights later. Again? She blew him while he was on the phone.

[C]

Well, this time you can come, because I know you.

[B]

And that was the end of part two.

[A]

Oh, me. Wow. Oh, wow. It's really getting hot now.

[C]

That's true. That's true. This is now.

[A]

Now it's hot.

[C]

This is the next era of Bill Clinton.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, this is after he came. After he. I mean, it is.

[B]

It's I'm. I don't think he can. I don't think he came for a long time. I think that his thing was like, don't come.

[A]

Oh, you think he was.

[C]

Was he one of those guys?

[A]

I feel like he's doing it because he fears what is actually coming. I feel like he was like, I think it's semen is a was.

[C]

He thought he had fixed his problem and he was being a good boy for.

[B]

Maybe. Maybe.

[A]

Yeah, it's.

[B]

I think it's one of.

[A]

But I mean, we've all like the idea there is no good part of getting a blow job to right before you come. I would rather no blow job than a comeless blow job.

[C]

Unless you go to some pastor on the Sunday who goes, that was the right thing.

[B]

Well, at one point.

[A]

Or unless you're.

[B]

Yeah, at one point he was like. Like, she blew him. And he was. He was like, there's people waiting for me outside on the other side of that door. So I can't make it look like.

[A]

I put a Krispy Kreme in my boxers.

[B]

So she stopped, and then she tried to go out another door and she couldn't get. So she came back and he was like, jerking off to finish it.

[A]

So. Oh, so he. Yeah, right.

[C]

Oh, he. Okay, right.

[A]

So he does want to come in the mouth. I think he does.

[B]

I. So I think it's one of two things. He thinks.

[A]

Can we email him, Aaron, Is that possible?

[B]

I think it's. He thinks it's not. Not fully cheating or two evidence.

[A]

He get his out.

[C]

Never had sexual relations.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. But I did let her suck my for 20 minutes and I jacked off into a book.

[B]

Or maybe him and Hillary had a deal. Just don't come in them.

[A]

Just don't finish. Just don't finish.

[C]

Just don't come in him. And don't come in me either. You did it.

[A]

No coming. Bad boy. Wow. Either way, I've been holding my load in so much. I'm right wing.

[B]

Either way, it's very weird.

[A]

Well, there you go. All right.

[B]

That's part two.

[A]

All right. Hey, our boy.

[B]

Our boy.

[C]

It's. It's worse. It's just.

[B]

Oh, it's getting worse. It's getting worse.

[A]

I'm definitely getting.

[C]

He's winning. He's gonna start winning again. But it's.

[A]

That's bad.

[B]

Brittany. Brittany Cohen Brown did the research. Sources. The Survivor Bill Clinton in the White House by John F. Harris. First in his Class. A Biography of Bill Clinton by David Marinus.

[A]

Look, it might be Nice for you to eat a possum candy cane over.

[B]

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I know the answer to that article.

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