702 - Bill Clinton with James Adomian - part three

Summary

The Dollop Episode 702 – Bill Clinton (Part Three) with James Adomian

Podcast: The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds
Guest: James Adomian
Date: September 23, 2025
Theme: The chaotic legacy of Bill Clinton’s presidency, focusing on the Monica Lewinsky scandal, major legislative choices, shifting political norms, and the long-term consequences of Clinton’s time in office.

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Episode Overview

In the explosive Part Three of their Bill Clinton multi-parter, comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds (joined by the ever-impressive James Adomian) dissect the heart of the Clinton presidency: the Monica Lewinsky scandal, parallel sex scandals, signature policy decisions around welfare, deregulation, and the cultural/political fallout that continues to shape America. The trio blend razor-sharp historical research with searing satire and spot-on impressions (Adomian’s Clinton is a highlight), unpacking not only the tabloid drama but also Clinton’s pivotal role in the rise of neoliberalism, deregulation, and the fracture of the American left.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Setting the Scene: December 1995 – Monica Lewinsky and the White House

• (01:40) Dave recaps Monica Lewinsky's early encounters with Clinton, her youthful infatuation, and the inappropriate dynamic:

  "She's convinced he's forgotten after he sees her in the hallway and calls her kiddo. That's definitely not—well, maybe a kink thing, but normally if you see a lady that's blown you, you don't call her kiddo." (Dave, 01:40)

• Power imbalance and staff awareness: The White House staff and Secret Service seemed aware of Clinton’s affairs. When Monica was seen as a "problem," she was moved to the Pentagon to distance her from the President.

  “In April 96, Monica's superiors moved her job to the Pentagon to keep her away from Bill. So a lot of people know what's going on. The Secret Service definitely knows what's going on.” (Dave, 08:39)

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2. The Lewinsky Affair: Obsession, Scandal, and Fallout

• Blunt breakdown of the affair: The hosts detail the infamous cigar incident, the gifts exchanged, and Clinton’s brazen disregard for boundaries.

  “Bill once put a cigar into her vagina, then put it in his mouth. He didn't smoke it because smoking in the White House was not allowed.” (Dave, 05:07)

• Monica’s perspective: Monica’s youth and vulnerability are heavily emphasized—a 22-year-old manipulated by “the most powerful man in the world.”

  “She's a young girl with a crush... at that point, you don't know boundaries that well.” (Dave, 07:14)

• Staff manipulation and damage control: Betty Currie, Clinton’s loyal secretary, manages Monica’s contact.

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3. Clinton’s Domestic Policy: Welfare Reform and Deregulation

• Welfare overhaul:
  Clinton pushes through major welfare “reform”—limiting time on welfare, adding work requirements, and ending aid for many immigrants, sparking outrage across the spectrum.

  "He promised to, 'end welfare as we know it.'... His plan was to limit time on welfare and add work requirements. So liberals are upset, Republicans want even more. And Bill wanted to offer childcare and training to get people off welfare and also give legal immigrants welfare." (Dave, 12:10)

  “Short-term gains for long-term losses.” (Dave, 24:17)

• Telecommunications Act of 1996: Clinton and Gore support a major deregulation, spurring the rise of media conglomerates like Sinclair Broadcasting and weakening local news, unions, and antitrust protections.

  “It eliminates antitrust regulations created in 1934... killing one of the New Deal's longest lasting regular regulatory frameworks.” (Dave, 23:34)

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4. Legal Troubles Multiply: Paula Jones, Depositions, and the Web of Scandal

• Paula Jones lawsuit and legal strategy: A sexual harassment allegation leads to a Supreme Court decision allowing presidents to be sued while in office, setting the stage for Clinton’s detailed, public grilling and scandal spiral.

  “So this was a result of the Paula Jones lawsuit. The woman who said Bill asked her to perform oral sex and kiss his penis.” (Dave, 27:55)

• Salacious details make headlines:
  Debates about the “identifying characteristics” of Clinton’s penis, Monica's infamous blue dress, and press fascination dominate late-90s pop culture.

  “I remember the penis. ... The whole country was talking about the shape and size of the President's penis.” (Dave, 40:26) “Bill's DNA was matched to the cum dress. He'd already lied so much to the public.” (Dave, 88:56)

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5. Linda Tripp and the Betrayal

• Tripp’s manipulation:
  Linda Tripp, Monica’s confidant, betrays her, secretly tapes calls (illegally in Maryland), and coordinates with conservative activists to blow open the scandal.

  “Goldberg told Tripp to record conversations and that it was legal in Maryland, but it was not legal in Maryland.” (Dave, 33:04) “Tripp even got Monica to make a spreadsheet of her meets with Bill to look for patterns in his attitude.” (Dave, 33:34)

• Tripp as villain:
  The group sharply criticizes Tripp’s motives and character:

  “Tripp is just a monster. Like, even if you didn't know who she was and then you saw her picture and you're like—yeah.” (Dave, 34:23) “She looks like somebody on one of those daytime talk shows. Like, she looked like a Jerry Springer guest.” (James, 45:28)

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6. The Impeachment Process and Cynicism Toward Both Sides

• Lying under oath and parsing words:
  Clinton hangs his defense on legalistic language—“It depends on what the meaning of the word is is.”

  “That depends on what the meaning of the word is. Is.” (Dave, 94:05)

• Public and media burnout:
  Despite endless coverage, the public ultimately shrugs.

  “But people were exhausted by it and just like—by the end, yeah, we were all like, shut the fuck up. Unions are more important than his load.” (Gareth, 61:59)

• Impeachment ironically backfires:
  Republicans lose seats in 1998. Clinton’s approval soars, but the Democratic Party’s leftward commitments are gutted.

  “Final. The final night, Bill signed 140 pardons, including... Mark Rich, whose ex wife was a major Dem fundraiser, and donated hundreds of thousands to Bill's presidential library.” (Dave, 119:01)

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7. Long-Term Impact: The Clinton Legacy

• Enabling the rise of the right and Trump:
  Clinton-era deregulation, union crushing, and triangulation pave the way for the modern GOP, corporate power, and Trumpism.

  “I mean 100%, that dude is the biggest reason we got Trump and got here to where we are with fascism.” (Dave, 129:47)

• Destruction of the left’s infrastructure:
  “By killing unions, he eliminated the main gathering place of the left working class... The rich had the right, had megachurches and gun clubs and things like that. And that's now where the working class gathers and talks.” (Dave, 129:54)

• Failed attempts at Social Security privatization, risky financial deregulation (repeal of Glass-Steagall), and media consolidation are listed as catastrophic blows to democracy and working people.

  “His telecommunications bill allowed right wing media companies like Sinclair to dominate the local news and take over all the other news. His repeal of depression era financial regulations led directly to the housing crash...” (Dave, 129:54)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Monica’s naivete & the adult responsibility:

  "She's being a kid. She's being a 22 year old person. Like that's what you do. And you are being manipulated by the most powerful man in the world who's made a life of manipulator." (Dave, 35:20)

• On welfare reform:

  “Clinton was short term gains for long term losses.” (Dave, 24:17)

• On deregulation:

  "It's what killed. So now there's really no local news anymore... It certainly killed local newspapers and then that also killed unions." (Dave, 26:28)

• On Clinton’s legacy:

  “I mean 100%, that dude is the biggest reason we got Trump and got here to where we are with fascism.” (Dave, 129:47)

• On public indifference:

  "People thought he lied but should stay president. Which is when the Republicans are just... shocked." (Dave, 100:02)

• On the impeachment drama:

  “As a child, you were like, well, okay, he's so angry about it. Obviously, he did it.” (James, 77:49)

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Key Timestamps

• 01:40 – The Monica Lewinsky affair begins in earnest; cringeworthy White House moments
• 05:07 – Infamous cigar moment; Clinton’s cover stories
• 08:39 – Monica moved to the Pentagon; staff knows what’s up
• 12:10 – Welfare reform battle: Clinton triangulates between left and right
• 23:34 – Telecommunications Act signed; local media and unions doomed
• 27:55 – Paula Jones lawsuit; Supreme Court rules presidents can be sued in office
• 40:26 – National fixation on Clinton’s anatomy
• 61:59 – Public exhaustion with the scandal; bigger issues ignored
• 88:56 – Dress evidence, legal threats, IRS intimidation
• 94:05 – “Depends what the meaning of 'is' is”—Clinton’s legalese
• 129:47 – Clinton’s legacy: party split, union destruction, seeds of Trumpism

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Tone and Style

The episode is a roller-coaster of righteous anger, bleakly funny impressions (especially Adomian’s Clinton), political history lessons, and biting asides. The hosts are relentlessly skeptical of both Clinton and his right-wing opponents, skewering hypocrisy everywhere—from Republican moralizing to liberal centrist nostalgia. They maintain their signature irreverence, using humor and vivid analogies (the 90s as a “cocaine party”) to dissect the era’s absurdities and dark legacy.

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Final Reflections

The trio close on a mournful note—lamenting how Clinton’s pursuit of “victory” for himself led directly to the demise of the left, the rise of right-wing propaganda, broken unions, and a country primed for oligarchy and Trump. The Lewinsky saga is presented not just as a cultural farce but as an emblem of the deeper rot within American political life. The episode provides a masterclass in connecting the sordid tabloid drama to the country’s present malaise—both informative and grimly hilarious for those who haven’t listened.

Transcript

[Dave Anthony]

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[Gareth Reynolds]

Bang isn't mine.

[Dave Anthony]

Hello, governor, hello, Governor, hello, Governor. I like a spicy meatball. Hello, governor, hello, Gov. Hello, governor, hello, Governor, Hello, Governor. Footy. You're listening to the Dollop. This is an American. We'll have you do that a sec. This is an American history podcast where each week I, Dave Anthony, read a story from American history to a boob.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Gareth Reynolds, who has no idea what the topic is going to be about.

[Dave Anthony]

Now you do the better introduction from.

[James Adomian]

The All Things Comedy studio in Burbank, California. It's the Dollop. Dollop, Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Ah, it's better as better than that stupid song which we didn't play during the last one, mind you.

[Dave Anthony]

No, we just did for the first one.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Good.

[Dave Anthony]

It's our new song.

[James Adomian]

You should, you guys should come out with the Bill Clinton balloons sometime. That would be fun. If you look at the size of this rain, if you could clean it up easily. Just have that go for an hour and a half the balloons and have some people have people like I, I'm having a heart attack because too many balloons.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Boy, that was such a. That was crazy. All right, here we go. Part three.

[Dave Anthony]

All right, we are in December 1995, right? He still isn't busted Monica Lewinsky after she did the blowy time a couple days, she couple of blow jobs situations. Now she doesn't see President Clinton alone for weeks. She's convinced he's forgotten after he sees her in the hallway and calls her kiddo. That's definitely not so you shouldn't. Well, there are certain circumstances, probably a kink thing, you would like it. But normally if you see a lady that's blown you, you don't call her kiddo.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, absolutely not. And especially a guy who's never been to a island of women that are of a particular age that is below the age of legal consent. I mean, you know what I mean?

[James Adomian]

That's about to start, right? Is that, has that. Has he been there yet at this point?

[Dave Anthony]

He has not been there yet.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No.

[James Adomian]

Coming up. That's his mostly post presidency, I guess.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's nice and nice.

[James Adomian]

Yeah, I figured there was a lot less attention on a private island.

[Dave Anthony]

Well, they're all going to be in trouble because today the all the victims came out and said we're putting out our own list.

[James Adomian]

Yes. Did you see that they during the press conference, Trump ordered a Military flyover. So they're like, just imagine loud jets interrupting conference bombing.

[Dave Anthony]

Sexual assault victims.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Get them out of here. What they're doing is a genocide.

[James Adomian]

Carpet bomb.

[Dave Anthony]

The sexual assault victims. Okay, no Q's. Like, this is not what we had in mind.

[James Adomian]

We've got terrorists victims. The victims are terrorists. They're communist victims.

[Gareth Reynolds]

First, they came for me, and I said nothing because I was the Nazi. Because I. This is not even a poem. This is a tweet.

[Dave Anthony]

So Monica gets hired in the office. Remember, she was an intern. Now she's hired in the Office of Legislative Affairs. And she's watching Bill from afar. But one day she reintroduces herself, which leads to that night a sex romp. Right.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's so crazy.

[Dave Anthony]

So he.

[James Adomian]

I want to just start things over again, if we can.

[Gareth Reynolds]

If we can. Who are you?

[Dave Anthony]

Do you remember me? Hey, it's Bob. Do you remember that?

[James Adomian]

I love. I love. Hey, I forgot your name. Kink. That's what.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Role play. When you came back, did you notice I was slamming it in a book?

[Dave Anthony]

But that just means he is so many women he's constantly around. I bet it's not just Monica. I bet he's got other ones that didn't get caught.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I think that. I think he remembered her and something else was going on.

[Dave Anthony]

Maybe.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. Okay. Well, she didn't introduce herself. Whatever. Monica, it, quote, blossomed into a relationship. They talk about their day and politics, and it goes on for 18 months.

[Gareth Reynolds]

She's 21.

[Dave Anthony]

She's 22. When she got there.

[Gareth Reynolds]

All right. Nuts.

[Dave Anthony]

Bill once put a cigar into her vagina, then put it in his mouth. He didn't smoke it because smoking in the White House was not allowed.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, that's nice.

[James Adomian]

You got to take it out to the Rose Garden.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's tasty.

[Dave Anthony]

No, they did not have sex in the Oval Office because, you know, respect for the office. No one's done that in here. Bill thought he was coming up with clever cover stories for when she came. Staff was trying to keep him away from women because he would clearly flirt in front of the cameras. And he's already suspected of having affairs with several women, including Barbra Streisand, who, at one point, the chief of staff stopped a dinner that they were gonna have together.

[James Adomian]

And I never made it a scandal. I never complained for one bar. When you're a president, you can fuck who you want. And I'll never say it went too far.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Mr. President. Mr. President.

[James Adomian]

Give me his willie. Give me his dick.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Mr. President. Nobody's in Here it's just me singing in the shower.

[Dave Anthony]

White House volunteer Kathleen Wiley accused Bill of groping her while they were talking. Other women had similar stories of inappropriate touching or propositioning. Bill's loyal secretary. Betty Curie was setting up meets with Monica, and Monica would call her up, sometimes up to 12 times a day, to see what Bill was up to.

[James Adomian]

Oh, my God. So he had a secretary that was closer than his wife.

[Dave Anthony]

Yes.

[James Adomian]

And anyone else, it's like, I am here to do exactly everything you tell me.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

12 times a day.

[Dave Anthony]

12 times a day. Which means she's 22.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean, 22. Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

She's a young girl with a crush.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes.

[Dave Anthony]

Who's we? That at that point, you don't know boundaries that well. You're taking things.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Goddamn president. I mean, it's insane.

[Dave Anthony]

It's so.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I. I mean, yes, it is. It is legal in the sense that.

[Dave Anthony]

It'S legal, but I'm, like, older now, so I know that you would be like, that's great. I'm very flattered, but no, because she's 22, you.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You get your dick sucked and don't finish.

[Dave Anthony]

Thank you.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The respectful thing to do in that situation.

[James Adomian]

Respect for the office and the Constitution.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, the Constitution. Because when she leaves, then you jerk off onto the desk.

[Dave Anthony]

I don't want you to have a mouth baby.

[James Adomian]

That's what. That's what Teddy Roosevelt used to do.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, my.

[James Adomian]

Abraham Lincoln proudly jerked off under this.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Why do you think he had a hat like that?

[James Adomian]

The hat could be used to disguise a whole stove pipe.

[Dave Anthony]

Okay, so sometimes Monica would scream at Carrie if she didn't get the info she wanted.

[James Adomian]

I love. Okay, I got a weakness for a screamer.

[Gareth Reynolds]

She's like. She's calling 12 times a day. Boy, she is really into me, huh?

[Dave Anthony]

In April 96, Monica's superiors moved her job to the Pentagon to keep her away from Bill. So a lot of people know what's going on. The Secret Service definitely knows what's going on.

[James Adomian]

Right. You're not alone. They're watching the whole time. So that's another thing. It's hard to have an affair, somebody knowing.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Is he allowed to be? I mean, does he sleep? They sleep alone.

[Dave Anthony]

Yes. But other people coming in, they know.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. They stand out front of the door. They know everything.

[Dave Anthony]

And so he keeps meeting this woman.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Alone and dark boy, she's got some great ideas.

[Dave Anthony]

So they move her to the Pentagon and keep her way. When she tearfully told Bill this, he said, quote, why do they have to take you away from Me. I promise, if I win in November. November. I'll have you back like that.

[James Adomian]

Oh. Maybe it was his idea to send her to the Pentagon.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's called Operation Maker. Oh, my Lord.

[James Adomian]

But, honey, I'm letting you down easy because if I win. If I win, meaning you don't come forward, then it's all gonna be wine and roses. And maybe you'll be old enough that somebody else has figured you out.

[Dave Anthony]

Monica joked her job would be assistant to the president for blow jobs. And Bill replied, quote, I'd like that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

When you say replied. What is this? Via note? Via phone call.

[Dave Anthony]

No, they're talking.

[Gareth Reynolds]

They're talking.

[Dave Anthony]

They're face to face, I think.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, there's. Okay. Yeah, texting.

[Dave Anthony]

I'd like.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'd like eggplant. Eggplant. Eggplant all day. Eggplant.

[Dave Anthony]

I would very much like if you were assistant to the president for blow jobs. Wouldn't that be nice?

[Gareth Reynolds]

That'd be great.

[James Adomian]

I think it should be a cabinet level secretary.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Come and dance.

[James Adomian]

I think you should be the. The. Either the secretary of fellatio or the cocksucker general.

[Dave Anthony]

We are going to have a department of RIM jobs.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You are ambassador to the balls.

[James Adomian]

So a scrotum divided against itself will not come.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I could literally do this part.

[Dave Anthony]

Oh, fuck. But their meetings became less frequent. They had some phone sex. Monica found ways to see him at events. She could think of little else. She gave him gifts, including a book about. Yeah, she's 22.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Those. The footage of those public meetings. There's like two or three.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And man, oh, man, did you get used to that B roll where she's, like, standing in line like, hi. Oh, they can do a quick hug or something.

[James Adomian]

Monica, I don't know if you're old enough to be aware of the idea of a rotation.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Have you heard. You watch the NBA? Have you heard of a bench? You got your starting five.

[James Adomian]

Okay, now you've had some great playing time out there.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Unbelievable. But I just don't know if we're the right squad.

[Dave Anthony]

She gave him gifts, including a book about phone sex.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, that's nice.

[Dave Anthony]

She loved his gifts. One. One was a hat pin.

[Gareth Reynolds]

There you go. Kill yourself.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, don't. Don't stab your neck.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Stab your voice box with it.

[Dave Anthony]

Bill was focused on.

[James Adomian]

He gave her a copy of Walt Whitman.

[Dave Anthony]

That's right.

[James Adomian]

Leaves of Leaves of Grass. I remember.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. You'll love this.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Get out of here.

[Dave Anthony]

Bill was focused on welfare reform during this time. He promised to, quote, end welfare as we know it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[James Adomian]

Well, I'm. I'm getting laid. I'm sexually gratified. So I think maybe we could finally approach this administration. I've been too far left, and I think it's time to swing right.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The first part was left. We tried it.

[Dave Anthony]

He thought free trade would lead to jobs at Walmart and McDonald's so they could get rid of welfare.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, I mean, even. Even thinking that is just like, okay, so what, you like that idea?

[Dave Anthony]

Everyone's going to benefit from free.

[James Adomian]

That's a great slogan, too. Walmart. It's like being on welfare.

[Dave Anthony]

You can do both. His plan was to limit time on welfare and add work requirements. So liberals are upset, Republicans want even more. And Bill wanted to offer childcare and training to get people off welfare and also give legal immigrants welfare. And Republicans end up sending a plan that would put 60,000 kids into poverty. Advisor Rahm Emanuel and Al Gore both urged Bill to sign the bill.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow.

[James Adomian]

Well, I've surrounded myself with right wing Democrats. I want to hear from every side of the party. I want to hear from Wall Street Democrats. I want to hear from Southern Democrats. Not just the Yankees in Wall street, but also the southerners who live in old plantation houses.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, me.

[Dave Anthony]

Despite saying it was, quote. Okay, you heard him. Everybody gets that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Leave life, give my juice book.

[Dave Anthony]

Despite saying it was, quote, a decent welfare bill wrapped in a sack of bill, signed it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow.

[Dave Anthony]

Welfare for illegal immigrants was gone. Stephanopoulos had to tell him not to go golfing because it would look bad. Bill.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's so funny.

[Dave Anthony]

Bill said, quote, you want me to wear a hair shirt, don't you?

[Gareth Reynolds]

A hair shirt.

[Dave Anthony]

So apparently that's like an old saying for when someone wants you to, like, be uncomfortable or, like, not experience joy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I bet you anyone who heard that was like, what? I'm sorry, let me guess. You want me to get my dick sucked till I don't come.

[James Adomian]

Oh, you're not allowed to go golf and enjoy yourself because of this welfare bill?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, because it. Yeah, right.

[James Adomian]

Yeah, because it's okay.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'm the victim.

[James Adomian]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

How dare you?

[Dave Anthony]

That's such a crazy thing to say. So his approval numbers go up the 1996 election years, and Bob Doles the opponent, he has a hard time hanging the crazy liberal label on Bill because he's not a crazy Lizbor.

[James Adomian]

I have not accomplished a single thing to the left.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes, you have.

[James Adomian]

Of my. Of Reagan.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Now, hold on a minute there. Yes, you have. Name one thing good. I've done bingo.

[James Adomian]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I am a Nazi.

[Dave Anthony]

Like, even by the sort of classic definition of what we thought of liberals back in the day. He's not even that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's so funny, though, because I, like, as this was going, I mean, I was young, obviously, but, like, didn't really know shit. But I, even for a while. Even for like, eight years after his presidency was like, he was really good. Like, I really did think that he was like, well, he balanced the budget. I mean, the guy did it.

[Dave Anthony]

We. We were. I always. I always say it like this. The. The 90s were like a cocaine party.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

And then everything after that has been like, the cocaine running out, the cops are coming, and, like, now we're out of cocaine and we're addicted. But the 90s were just, like, good times.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The 90s were the cocaine party. The 2000s were the day after where you had, like, two bumps left to clean up the place. And then since then, we've just been like, it. Let's just fucking. Let's just eat the gar.

[James Adomian]

Yeah, let's eat the garbage meds. We can crumble up.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

So, yeah, he's. He's awesome. Okay, so.

[James Adomian]

Let'S go for a jog. Let's go for a jog. See if. See.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What do you think?

[Dave Anthony]

Oh, he's getting rid of the deficit. So the deficit is on track to be gone by 1998, right?

[James Adomian]

That's true. That's true.

[Dave Anthony]

Bill. Son.

[James Adomian]

A great conservative accomplishment.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yep. A hollow accomplishment.

[Dave Anthony]

Bill.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Sign of cutting welfare.

[Dave Anthony]

The Defense of Marriage act. Defining marriage as between a man and a woman.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, the sanctity of marriage is very important to me. It's very important.

[James Adomian]

Man and one woman. What defines a marriage?

[Gareth Reynolds]

One man, one woman. Other women. If they will kiss his penis.

[James Adomian]

That means there's two names on the dock document.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The two names on the document.

[James Adomian]

Man, a woman. Now, sometimes you might have a witness.

[Gareth Reynolds]

She can blow you. She can blow you.

[James Adomian]

You're not married to her, but you can call her. She can.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay. And she could not you. Take you to the finish line. That's very important.

[Dave Anthony]

Unemployment's low. 11 million new jobs. He spoke to adoring crowds, campaigning. Now Dick Morris gets caught going to a sex worker. And so Bill. So Bill can now fire him without issue, which is what he wanted to do anyway. So it took care of that problem.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow. He was like, what are you firing me for? You're disgusting. Get out of here. Get out.

[Dave Anthony]

He easily beats Bob Dole. Dole's a bad candidate. He once gave a speech about family values next to a line of Hooters waitresses. Because his team had picked a parking lot by a Hooters to hold a rally.

[James Adomian]

By the way, Bill Clinton or Bob Dole.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That is also all these things like, they are. So it's very funny to listen back to what foolishness or scandalous was then to think like. Like Rudy Giuliani giving a press conference in a Four Seasons parking lot. Like. Like the level of stupidity, the deterioration of it. But also dull when he tried to shake hands and he fell over that little fence that wasn't like glued to the stage properly.

[James Adomian]

That's right.

[Gareth Reynolds]

He just appeared like the oldest man ever, which is shocking now in retrospect.

[James Adomian]

Yeah, it's me, Bob Dole.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the hand. Like, you're saying the hand. His hand didn't work, so he put a pen in. Was all very puzzling.

[James Adomian]

The entire. The entire campaign was. We've had too much America with a president who's always getting his pecker slobbered over.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[James Adomian]

I'm a man who's only had sex four times.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And by the way, when he didn't win, then he started doing Viagra commercial, which was right after.

[James Adomian]

So embarrassing.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. He would be like, let me tell you something. I finally put something. That's not a pen in that hand.

[Dave Anthony]

Bob dolls hard.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You can be too. It was like the craziest. That was like, when whatever he was running on, you're like, oh, that was bullshit.

[James Adomian]

In case there was any subtext to the me not getting laid information, I am now a real point on it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And his wife's behind him in the Viagra commercial.

[Dave Anthony]

Like, make him stop kicking.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'm going to go bang the out of her.

[James Adomian]

There's someone with a clipboard, like, trying to get her to sign something. And she's like, we don't need money that bad.

[Gareth Reynolds]

All right, Tell me if you want another take. I got a couple more in me.

[Dave Anthony]

So Bill says that his win shows how important the vital American center is.

[James Adomian]

You know what? We won again.

[Dave Anthony]

I'll never forget, I was in comms in San Francisco. They had a election night party and everyone is celebrating. And I'm just sitting there, like, not celebrating. And I look across the room and David Cross is also not celebrating. And we just look at each other and go, no one gets it. Yeah, no one gets it.

[James Adomian]

Well, yeah, but you didn't sign up for the team. It was a sporting event. Yes, that's what it is. A campaign is a sporting. Sporting event. And are you for the New York Yankees? Are you for the Atlanta Braves, bro?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, are you for the, the new right wing or the old right wing? Like, and I don't know, I think for a while, like, yeah, it's like you celebrated the new right wing thinking it was the left.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. So Republicans just keep hoping people are going to care about Bill's personal failings. His approval rating is in the mid-60s, but personal ratings are in the low 40s. So a deregulation bill makes its way through Congress in 1995.

[James Adomian]

We need a new focus. We need, we've won. It's a second term in office. It's time that we abandon this far left stuff and maybe we can, we can, we can govern both sides by giving the right wings something that they want.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The issue's been regulation.

[Dave Anthony]

So it is a telecommunications deregulation bill. And both Bill and Gore love it. It's.

[James Adomian]

Yeah. Tell me more. It's a, it's, it's what Reagan was trying to do, but times 10. Yeah, great, I'm in.

[Dave Anthony]

It's anti consumer legislation being sold as encouraging competition that would lower prices and increase choices.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But the Perot pitch now you're like, wait a second now down a minute.

[Dave Anthony]

But it's actually going to create huge concentrations of media power in radio, print and TV. It eliminates antitrust regulations created in 1934 to promote local community.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

Harding.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

Before, no company could own more than 40 radio stations across the country. But now, a lot. But now that was gone, they couldn't own radio or TV and a newspaper in the same market. Now one company could own all three. It laid the path for mega media corporations. The lobbying for the bill was unparalleled. And Bill signed it on February 8, 1996, killing one of the New Deal's longest lasting regular regulatory frameworks. Quote, this law is truly revolutionary legislation that will bring the future to our doorstep.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We want more Hearsts. I have two questions. Well, a thought and a question. Why did the. Why FDR was the most successful Democrat and yet they found. Was it just the passage of time that allowed them to run away from his record for so long? And then for Bill Clinton, what is the benefit of this? Is it just personal financial gain? It's just win a win, a win a win.

[James Adomian]

And I don't count the, the long term viability of my party. I just mean me winning. Yeah, I mean winning Meet the Press.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That week, seriously, of, of all the.

[Dave Anthony]

Research I did, the best description I heard was Bill Clinton was short term gains for long term losses.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, that explains a blowjob where you.

[James Adomian]

Don'T come and if you don't love me now, you'll never love me again. I love this is this is that the deregulation is what that set up a lot of very bad that NAFTA plus that set up this Trump world that we have now 100% got it. Those two things where it's like oh not now. Detroit was already destroyed by Reagan but then now Ohio like the entire state of Ohio went down the Detroit pit it really and then they're like well oh, we've got these right wing propaganda silos now to tell you what happened after your dad died.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's the thing. It's like it. It ruined his life too eventually like that the ability to allow that it.

[Dave Anthony]

Caused his wife to lose her election when like the right. Right wing like I don't think that we'd have a Trump if it wasn't for the Megala really company those two.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And Citizens United is kind of the trifecta. And those are two things that he signed in.

[James Adomian]

You're telling me, you're telling me that my abandoning of the working class caused the working class to abandon my family and my political party. Well, what can I say? I was seduced by the dancing baby in the late 1990s and I thought that Internet needed to be deregulated.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We all were.

[James Adomian]

It was a baby that danced and it twirled in a circle and if.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You don't know what I'm talking about.

[Dave Anthony]

So much like free trade. They believe that the Internet is going to lead to abundance and they thought quote, well this new technology, everyone will be making a lot of money and have great jobs. So the telekinesis because so the telecommunications.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That we would rather an unknown. We'd rather what's in the box.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. So it's what killed. So now there's really no local news anymore. It certainly killed local newspapers and then that also killed unions. Well all the telecommunications unions were murdered.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Sinclair Broadcasting was.

[Dave Anthony]

Sinclair Broadcasting is the great example. And Sinclair Broadcasting came super fast because in. In 94 or sorry 2004 Carrie. The. The whole Swift Boat was done by Sinclair. Sinclair did Swiftboat. They aired it at all their local stations.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yep.

[Dave Anthony]

So it was. It had already. The monster was already there. It happened really fast.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Whoops.

[Dave Anthony]

Whoops. Sorry about that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Whoopsie. Whoopsie.

[Dave Anthony]

May 27th, 1997. The Supreme Court ruled that no president would be protected from civil suits while in office. It's almost like the opposite has happened with our current president.

[James Adomian]

Yeah, it's such a. Some of this is so quaint.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right?

[James Adomian]

It's like, oh, the House of Representatives had the power to fund something or not fund something.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean, literally. Yeah. What that is, that. That is the point of them essentially, is to decide.

[James Adomian]

The Supreme Court allowed a president to be sued.

[Dave Anthony]

So this was a result of the Paula Jones lawsuit. The woman who said Bill asked her to perform oral sex and kiss his penis.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Begged her. Begged her.

[Dave Anthony]

I just asked her if she wanted to kiss.

[James Adomian]

She looked like someone that had said yes before.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean, honestly, in my defense.

[Dave Anthony]

So Jones is suing for $700,000 and an apology.

[James Adomian]

Now, that's the amount of money that I dumped into white water. With inflation, it's not what it used to be, but that is a hefty sum.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And by the way, at the end of a blowjob, you do make white water, which I've always found quite interesting. That.

[Dave Anthony]

Well, so the public doesn't think much of Joan's case. People didn't believe that he just exposed himself and asked for oral sex. Could you believe that about this guy? Jokes on tv made fun of both of them. An ex boyfriend sold partially nude photos of her. So she's really getting taken advantage of and fucked over. And people really think like, well, that little white trash. Like, that's really how it was.

[James Adomian]

That's the tough thing. When you come out. I have a terrible position. Have to come out about like I was wronged by this powerful person.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Adomian]

Then the cr. The crowd full of clowns goes like, well, you're a too.

[Dave Anthony]

Yep.

[James Adomian]

So nobody. You can't win even if you're right.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And it doesn't even take like nude pictures or something. Obviously goes in the. That gives them firepower for that sort of stuff. When you think like Tara Reid. Tara Reid, who came up against Biden. There was really nothing neg like she just came out with a story and then they all jumped on her.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

With. They just were like, liar. You're fucking liar. Like, it ended me too.

[Dave Anthony]

That's right.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

So, yeah. The exploit, the expo. What a fucking scumbag.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

So those pictures. A poll showed half Americans saw the case as just quote, an effort to undermine the President, funded by the right wing.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And it's funny. My whole career I listened to polls. I was guided by polls.

[Dave Anthony]

But the thing is, it was because she first accused Bill at a right wing conference. So she's also being used by the right wing because who else is going to help her out?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

Right wing commentator Susan Carpenter McMillan became Jones handler and she told people she didn't think Jones was smart. Jeffrey Toobin wrote that she routinely used baby talk to Jones on the phone. Like, quote, hi, my palapoo. I dubba dubba, dubba dabba boo.

[Gareth Reynolds]

This is, by the way.

[James Adomian]

That's how publicists talk to their clients.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's how you know you got a good one.

[James Adomian]

I didn't connect that. That was baby talk.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Also, we should point out people not familiar with Jeffrey Toobin. He was. He was fired for three months. Cnn for masturbating on a zoom.

[Dave Anthony]

Well, but in. Not on purpose. He just.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, he thought that.

[Dave Anthony]

He thought.

[Gareth Reynolds]

He thought he was on a break and he wanted to jack off.

[James Adomian]

Tubin went full tube out. Am I wrong?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Tubin was Lubin.

[James Adomian]

Tubin.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Tubin. And then. Oh, that clip. I apologize.

[Dave Anthony]

So Jones lawyers seek out Juanita Broadrick to discuss rumors that Bill raped her in 1978, and she denies it. Years later, she would recant and say Bill had raped her in a hotel room. The Supreme Court ruling meant Bill could be asked very detailed questions in court, and his advisors thought he should settle instead. But neither Bill nor Hillary wanted a settlement that would make him look guilty.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I want to prove I'm guilty.

[Dave Anthony]

American justice Monica had only told her mom and some friends about the affair, including a Pentagon co worker as old as her mother, Linda Tripp.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

As Monica became depressed and desperate over the affair, she told Tripp more details.

[James Adomian]

He's these other women.

[Dave Anthony]

Oh, my God.

[James Adomian]

I was the other woman.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, my God. Hold on. Let me flip the tape, man.

[Dave Anthony]

The effect.

[James Adomian]

I remember Linda Tripp.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

Like, I get that, like, maybe you're desperate for love order. But the whole mindset of just like, of. Of having an affair with someone and then also complaining that you're not getting enough attention or whatever, it's just like, you're the side action.

[Gareth Reynolds]

She's. But she. But like we said, I mean, she's so young.

[Dave Anthony]

She's so young.

[Gareth Reynolds]

She's so young that. I mean, I like, if you are tortured, even if it's not like, if you're. If you're tortured in any way and you find someone who will, like, listen to you endlessly, let you, like, blather to them about it, you do it. And this person obviously was like, fully taking advantage of that.

[Dave Anthony]

So taken.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, I mean, look, if someone was calling me, being like, yeah, I'm like, the prep. I'd be like, but, all right, how did your day go? Go on. What are you doing? How big is his dick?

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, I think anybody would. But what anybody wouldn't do is tell New York lit agent Lucienne Goldberg, who dangled a book deal. Goldberg, of course, was a conservative. So Goldberg told Tripp to record conversations and that it was legal in Maryland, but it was not legal in Maryland. She had Jones lawyers.

[James Adomian]

Very often if somebody tells you it's legal to do, you don't look it up.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No.

[James Adomian]

Okay. All right. Yeah, legal.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, as long as you say it's legal in Maryland. Book person, conservative book publisher.

[Dave Anthony]

She had Joan's lawyers contact Tripp. Tripp even got. So she's getting her to talk, right? Yeah, she's wearing a wire. Tripp recording it. Tripp even got Monica to make a spreadsheet of her meets with Bill to look for patterns in his attitude.

[James Adomian]

Look, spreadsheets had taken off the tech boom of the 1990s. A lot of Microsoft.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Thank you.

[James Adomian]

Success is due to me. That talking paperclip Clippy, by the way.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Please stop saying spreadsheet and meets.

[Dave Anthony]

Tripp is just a monster.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes.

[Dave Anthony]

Like Trip is like even if you didn't know who she was and then you saw her picture and you're like.

[James Adomian]

Yeah, well when I pull up Microsoft Word, Clippy goes, hey, it looks like you're here to write another NDA.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Back off, Clippy. But all the vitriol directed at. Well, we'll get to it. But Linda Tripp got a lot of. Yeah, bullshit. But she is a villain.

[Dave Anthony]

She's a villain, but nothing like what Monica's not. Monica's not a villain and even slightly close to one.

[James Adomian]

Yeah, Monica is a character dragged on stage by in a Moliere play. Like it's it with these middle aged. And she's this young person that was just not doing anything intelligent but really being taken advantage of by. Well, she's an evil man and then his enemies.

[Dave Anthony]

Yes, she's being, I mean honestly, she's being a kid. She's being a 22 year old person. Like that's what you do.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And you are being manipulated by the most powerful man in the world who's made a life of manipulator.

[James Adomian]

Now you say that, but that hurts me.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Me. No. Why? I'm not saying that. I think that that is like you. You are, you're manipulating powerful man.

[James Adomian]

Yeah, well, not to say nothing of the Pope.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wait, that's what.

[James Adomian]

I dare you to criticize him as much as you do me.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I really feel like I, I, I, I, I feel like there's skeletons in both closets, sir.

[James Adomian]

Well, there are catacombs underneath the Vatican. I Will, you don't want to investigate in Little Rock.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I got catacombs.

[Dave Anthony]

So. Yeah. So Linda Tripp enters the picture.

[James Adomian]

Blunder.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, blunders.

[James Adomian]

This is the opera. And her character.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The Kool Aid man as a woman through the wall, like, like the.

[James Adomian]

The Mozart play.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, like, what is it?

[James Adomian]

Which one, Bricks?

[Dave Anthony]

Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

[James Adomian]

Yes, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, I'm thinking of a different one, but good stuff.

[Dave Anthony]

The thing about 22 year olds, and this is what I always tell my wife about kids, like, their job is to make mistakes. Your job is to make mistakes. And it's older people's jobs. Not to take advantage of it of.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Them in college and all that. But I mean, you're literally out there.

[Dave Anthony]

Bumbling around like you're figuring out.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But imagine being in the White House.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, it's crazy. So Monica, I mean, sorry, Trip. Already hates Bill because she had worked in the White House under Bush. And then when Bill came in, she was forced out one of those. So she's already talking about she's got a grudge. So Monica said Bill came after a blowy and it got on her dress. And Tripp said, don't clean it. Quote, it could be evident someday. And Monica was like, that's ridiculous. Quote, you think that I can hold on to a dress for five or 10 years with the President's come. I have a whole closet full of dresses and come.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I've got an apron with Nixon's load on it.

[Dave Anthony]

I've got a dress made out of FDR stuff. Seamen.

[James Adomian]

I've got taint splotch from Gerald Ford's Chevrolet, let's say.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, it's just the craziest conversation you.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Can hold on to a dress for 10 months with. Come on it.

[Dave Anthony]

So now Bill's kind of distancing herself and she's starting to feel brushed off. So Monica writes Bill a letter and said she might have to tell her parents everything. And he calls her into the Oval Office the next day and yells at her. But then she starts to cry and then he softens.

[James Adomian]

Well, that means I've. That means it worked. When a woman starts crying, that means that you did the job. You can be the nice guy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What we call the closing zone.

[Dave Anthony]

And then they kept talking. And he gave her hope of them having a future together.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Look, maybe I'll nut on another dress in a month. He.

[Dave Anthony]

She thought he was in love with her. Bill's lawyers agreed to a settlement of $700,000, but no apology in the Jones case.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's so funny.

[Dave Anthony]

But then.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But he will not say he's sorry.

[Dave Anthony]

And Joan's husband was like, no, rejected. And it pisses off her lawyers because there's absolutely no evidence. It's just her word against his. Except for the trooper, I guess, but the trooper, that guy's been disgraced a little bit, so whatever. So her lawyers quit. They're like this. This is crazy.

[James Adomian]

Damn.

[Dave Anthony]

And then her cases is just taken over by right wing activists. So they leak that Jones said he had a, quote, identifying characteristics on his genitals. A curved penis.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I've got interesting news for you, Ms. Jones. Most penises have a bit of a curve.

[Dave Anthony]

Bill's lawyer.

[Gareth Reynolds]

When you play with it, it gets hard.

[James Adomian]

Well, my, My penis, it starts. It announces that it's swinging to the left, but then it makes a hard, sharp right turn.

[Dave Anthony]

It's. I call it the S. Oh.

[Gareth Reynolds]

While I keep saying it's pretty left. So when I get you into the bedroom, I tell you it's got a hard left band once you're there.

[Dave Anthony]

So Bill's lawyer responds, quote, in terms of size, shape and direction. A normal man. Do you remember this? I remember the penis. The penis.

[James Adomian]

It was, was. It was. It was like a ridiculous opera.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Adomian]

Where the whole country was talking about the shape and size of the President's penis. And I never thought he. I never thought he was a hot guy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[James Adomian]

And I was like a teenager having to be like, all right, we're talking about this fat guy's dick.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But I do remember. I don't remember that, but I do remember. Like, you'd be watching the news at Broca. I'd be like an update. As far as how big Bill Clinton's penis. You were just like, like it was the first time. You're like, penis is just getting said by all these sort of iconic people on the news so regularly. Did he have a boner or did he shoot a load on the dress?

[James Adomian]

Sherman esque question. Are you cut or are you.

[Gareth Reynolds]

How hooded is his penis?

[Dave Anthony]

So because of the court case, he ends up being examined by urologists.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, that's like. It's so crazy.

[Dave Anthony]

They found no curve.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That guy's crazy, too.

[Dave Anthony]

But that conservatives were upset because they said it was sauce.

[James Adomian]

Cochrane was his urologist. If. If the shaft does not dip, then the president is no crip.

[Dave Anthony]

So conservatives are like, no, it's soft. It has to be hard.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's not going to be an issue.

[Dave Anthony]

The next show, the next year.

[James Adomian]

Part of this was once it has. Once you've Allowed the to be pulled into a public scandal like this. That was delicious for them. Because now they're saying we're demanding that the president jerk off. Yes, well, another day it's, we, I, I, we know what you're doing. You're just making the president jerk off.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, I mean, the whole thing is effective. Yeah. Oh, very effective. So Joan's right wing lawyers are also making fun of her the whole time. Quote, paula can't even spell politics. They hired private investigators to get information from other women about Bill's sexual history. And they got details on a few consensual affairs. The stress is eating at Bill, especially when he saw Monica's name pop up on the witness list. He was shocked.

[James Adomian]

That's the first time that her name had spilled out.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. He told his lawyer, quote, bob, do you think I'm crazy? I know the press is watching me every minute. The riot has been dying for this kind of thing from day one. No, it did not happen. I'm retired. I'm retired from cheating. I'm retired from cheat.

[James Adomian]

So maybe that's what he thought, that once he got into the White House, he wouldn't do it anymore.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I think to some extent he must have, because when it came credit for.

[James Adomian]

Almost keeping good on that promise, because.

[Gareth Reynolds]

When it came to Monica, it was like it, he really, it feels like that. The fact that he came on the dress says to me, it's not a fetish. He just was really trying to not come for whatever reason, like probably because of something like this, but also maybe because in his weird head he's like, then it isn't cheating. Which is what the sexual relations thing leads to.

[James Adomian]

We came to that agreement when we entered the Oval Office together, Hillary and I, we agreed we had some, some rules. I would, I would never cheat on her again. No, no, anything on the road doesn't count. So you'll notice there was a lot of trips to China and Russia. A lot of them we went to every time we went to London. Let me tell you, you could go to London and end up in Dublin and then make your flight out of London the next day.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I got so invested in Serbia, they had this woman there.

[Dave Anthony]

Oh, it's. So anyway, the, the being on the list also blindsides Monica. Bill called her at 2am Quote, it broke my heart when I saw your name on that list.

[Gareth Reynolds]

God, so tough for you.

[Dave Anthony]

Starr would later, can you come here.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So I can poison you?

[Dave Anthony]

Starr would later call this call obstruction of justice. But he never asked her to lie in an Affidavit or under oath. So then it can't be obstruction of justice.

[James Adomian]

Also, I am an attorney, so I know how to say things without saying that.

[Dave Anthony]

Exactly.

[James Adomian]

It really made me very sad that I saw that you had done something. Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow.

[Dave Anthony]

That's exactly right. They talk cover stories, but they left out the oral sex. And also, what are the COVID stories for the trial? Or just my wife. So you can't actually say it's obstruction of justice because the COVID story could be for anybody.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right. For his wife. Right. I'm just a piece of.

[Dave Anthony]

So now Monica is frantic and in tears, and she calls, Trip, Trip.

[James Adomian]

Oh, you gotta trust somebody, Tripp.

[Dave Anthony]

Chastise her for upsetting her with the news.

[James Adomian]

Listen, listen, you little.

[Dave Anthony]

Tripp is also a very undersecked, sexed, angry woman on top of it. Like, she doesn't look like she's had an orgasm.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's so amazing.

[James Adomian]

She looks like somebody on one of those daytime talk shows. Like, she looked like a Jerry Springer guest.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, right.

[James Adomian]

Where you were waiting for the chair at some point.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Adomian]

She was gonna flip out at some.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But it's also amazing for her to be like. Like a. Like, she's. She's. She's a mole. She's a rat. And yet she's also, like, getting valuable information. And she's like, leave me alone.

[Dave Anthony]

I know, right?

[Gareth Reynolds]

My shows are on.

[Dave Anthony]

I'm watching my story.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Good God. Hold on. Let me get the tape recorder.

[Dave Anthony]

Now, Tripp tapes this conversation even though she now knew it was illegal to tape.

[James Adomian]

And Monica, she was in Maryland.

[Dave Anthony]

Yes. And she looked it up.

[Gareth Reynolds]

She finally Googled it. The publisher was like, no, you are allowed to keep doing it. Okay.

[Dave Anthony]

Monica asked Bill to help her get a job in New York. She's like, it's over. I'm leaving.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Absolutely.

[Dave Anthony]

And he gets a friend to hook her up at Revlon.

[James Adomian]

Revlon, Revlon.

[Dave Anthony]

Where else?

[Gareth Reynolds]

From Pentagon to Revlon.

[Dave Anthony]

Monica signed an affidavit denying a sexual relationship. And when Tripp heard that, she called Stars Team and told them what she knew. And she played the recordings for them and was offered immunity for making the illegal recordings. That's not how it works.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What is the point. What is the point for Linda Tripp at this point?

[Dave Anthony]

A book deal.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It is still a book deal.

[Dave Anthony]

With a book deal.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay.

[Dave Anthony]

And she wants to get subpoenaed to put her name out there so she can then become more.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right.

[James Adomian]

She want.

[Gareth Reynolds]

If.

[James Adomian]

If her. If her game had played out more to her interest, you would have a TV show now that Would be like. It's the, it's, it's, it's the.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Welcome back to Tripwire.

[James Adomian]

It's. Yeah. Weekend trip on Fox News.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Day trip. Hi, everybody.

[Dave Anthony]

Oh God. Yeah, she's just. So anyway, she plays the recording. She's goes off her immunity. She told them of the cum dress and she gets the subpoena she wants. Tripp then invites Monica to lunch at the Ritz Carlton wearing a wire.

[James Adomian]

Yep.

[Dave Anthony]

This is all over a affair that doesn't. It's literally an HR issue. Yeah, it's not, it's not a.

[James Adomian]

Can you imagine her?

[Dave Anthony]

It's just like, she's like.

[James Adomian]

I'm sorry, I got a little bit of my tit milk on the, on the microphone.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Can you hear me? Yes, we can. Linda, stop talking. Monica's walking over right now.

[James Adomian]

I think she's. She has juice on the bacon.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay, all right. Just. Just act normal, please, Linda, act totally normal. She's sitting down in a second. Okay.

[Dave Anthony]

Monica got suspicious when they were talking.

[James Adomian]

I'm. I'm sorry. And you said it. His name was what?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Bill?

[James Adomian]

No, I know Bill, but I'm saying that the official that had told you that. The Pentagon. What was his name again?

[Gareth Reynolds]

William Cohen. I told you that you know him.

[James Adomian]

That's very good. Very good.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Are you okay? What's with your posture? What's with your pot? Why are you talking?

[James Adomian]

When you get older too, things start moving differently.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay. They could move in if they wanted. Yeah, they could move in if they wanted. They could move differently if they wanted. They could move in. Move in. Move in.

[James Adomian]

Go, go, go, go, go, go, go.

[Dave Anthony]

We have.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Go, go, go. We have her.

[James Adomian]

What are you doing?

[Gareth Reynolds]

We have her. We have her. We have her.

[James Adomian]

I'm just wondering if I can have more champagne.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Can we have more champagne? Move, move, bullies.

[James Adomian]

Move.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Get the squat in here.

[Dave Anthony]

Well, you're almost right. While they were talking, Tripp kept saying, quote Stop whispering. I can't hear how.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Louder.

[Dave Anthony]

Please talk into the plant. Trip went to the bathroom and Monica searched her purse for a recorder. But Monica didn't lie in the affidavit. She said, quote, I never had intercourse. A sexual relationship.

[James Adomian]

Oh God. Cuz they were coming on each other's clothes.

[Dave Anthony]

They didn't.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I again. Well, that. That's the whole GRY zone of this convers, this whole relationship. What is sex? Became the question.

[James Adomian]

Cuz Hillary said. Hillary said that she would. She would walk away from our sexless marriage if I didn't honor it.

[Dave Anthony]

Imagine after the lunch, Trip told one of the independent council. What she wanted out of all this. And the invented counsel went to Star's chief deputy and said, quote, that woman is a. If you want to get in bed with that, you're gonna pay for it eventually. Any jury would hate that woman.

[James Adomian]

Linda Tripp.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, that's.

[James Adomian]

That was America's verdict, too.

[Dave Anthony]

America. She is one of those people you. You instantly don't like. You just go, this is an awful person. She just. She. She oozes. I'm awful.

[James Adomian]

What do you mean? What, you mean someone who's like, I used to work at the White House and now I'm an analyst at the Pentagon? That's not like that doesn't have sunshine written all over.

[Dave Anthony]

So Star asks Attorney General Reno to let him expand it and investigate obstruction of justice by bill. And Reno does, and it has nothing to do with Whitewater. So now, like, what? The guy said. Yeah. He was like, they're gonna open it up, just settle. And sure enough, they did.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yep.

[Dave Anthony]

Thinking she was meeting Tripp, Monica was confronted in a mall by the FBI and prosecutors, and they take her up to a hotel room, and Trip's there, and Monica now realizes that Tripp is the betrayer. I don't understand why they had Tripp there. I'd like to be there maybe to throw her off. Maybe to throw Monica off. And. And then they would. She would understand everything. They know.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Probably. Probably to make a very quick, like, a short route to her being like, oh.

[James Adomian]

They were like, we actually just want to make sure, you know, we're the bad guy, guys.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. Hi, Monica.

[Dave Anthony]

Hey. We suck.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So I told him everything.

[Dave Anthony]

So they tell Trip to leave and told Monica she was going to be charged with crimes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Can I take some of these waters from the fridge to whip before I go? Oh, whoa. They have Toblerone. May I?

[Dave Anthony]

They tell Monica she's going to be charged with crimes and is looking at 27 years. For what?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Not fully sucking his dick.

[James Adomian]

You're look. You're looking. You're looking at crimes. Ms. Louis Minsky. We understand that the balls were not cradled at all. There were pubic hairs that were spit out disrespectfully. This the.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We know he ate the cigar, man. We know he ate the cigar. Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

We're from the Department of Blowjobs. What'd you think we're from? So they.

[James Adomian]

They had nothing like investigation cbj.

[Dave Anthony]

They have absolutely nothing. Monica asked to call her mom, and a prosecutor said they might prosecute her mom, too. And now Monica.

[James Adomian]

Just not what you say when someone Wants to make a phone call, right?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Completely. Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

And she just flips out and starts sobbing. It takes an hour for them to calm her down. And then they. And then she goes to a payphone to call her mom. And as she leaves the room, a prosecutor says, quote, well, that's it. She's never coming back. But she does come right back after talking to her mom. Now her mom's gonna come out, I think. I think her mom was west coast, so I think they waited a really long time for her to fly out. And, like, they spent a day at the mall. They, like, went shopping with Monica and, like, the.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Them.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, and they went to a movie. They watched a movie.

[James Adomian]

The FBI took her to a movie.

[Dave Anthony]

They went to a movie, and they.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, look, they went to Disney Store. You want to go in there?

[James Adomian]

Do you think they were like. Do you think there were some, like, creepy FBI guys that were like, you want. You want some of my popcorn?

[Dave Anthony]

I know. She's easy. I mean, it sounds like she's easy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You know, I love to come on dresses. What? Is that your thing or what's going on?

[Dave Anthony]

You're under arrest.

[Gareth Reynolds]

All right.

[Dave Anthony]

So her mom. Her mom does come out. What? That must have been the weirdest day. That's the movie. The day of them just.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, my God. Right?

[James Adomian]

Purpose of your. Purpose of your visit? Business or pleasure? My daughter has been having sex with the president.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The president's pleasure.

[Dave Anthony]

So when her mom arrives, she was told Monica could have immunity. And the mom's like, okay, put the deal in writing. And then they all got really quiet, and they said, no, because they didn't have a typewriter.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What the fuck? This is not the 1930s.

[James Adomian]

They're like, we actually want to have none of this admissible in court.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Do you understand? Our goal here is a mistrial.

[Dave Anthony]

Are you actually prosecutors?

[Gareth Reynolds]

We don't know. We'll be honest. We all work at Spencer's Gifts.

[Dave Anthony]

What's the thing that you type out on that? You take the paper out of the. We don't have one of those sounds.

[James Adomian]

These guys sound like in Spaceballs, where it's like, yeah, Major, sir. Yeah, I'm an aye, sir.

[Dave Anthony]

The typewriter is the best thing in this whole.

[James Adomian]

So a typewriter in 1997 or something?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

Monica, her mom. Just leave, then. Wait, you can't keep them there. So Bill is practicing for the deposition with lawyers for about six hours. And the lawyer.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean, truly just sitting there learning how to very lawyerly lie.

[Dave Anthony]

Yes. And the lawyer said some of his denials Are, quote, frankly, unbelievable. And he warms, warns him about lying. He's. He lie.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right.

[Dave Anthony]

And they had no idea about Trip and Monica.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Ah.

[Dave Anthony]

So he really got blindsided. So Bill is questioned about seven different women that he had affairs with.

[James Adomian]

All seven. And you watch them fall.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Bang, bang.

[Dave Anthony]

The judge's. Judge Wright, she was Bill's student at the Arkansas law school.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Probably shouldn't have showed her my pecker.

[Dave Anthony]

At the same time, she worked in the campaign of the guy opposing him. So. Right.

[Gareth Reynolds]

How are you?

[Dave Anthony]

She thought Jones. The judge thought Jones should take the settlement and was worried what the case would do to the country. The judge and the lawyers agreed to define the term sexual relations as contact with the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of a person with an intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, then.

[James Adomian]

Well, so they really. They tried to expand it.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, they did.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

What about a judge?

[Gareth Reynolds]

What about.

[James Adomian]

That's sex.

[Dave Anthony]

Let me show you. Let me show you.

[Gareth Reynolds]

She kissed my buttocks. Oh.

[James Adomian]

And a judge woman could be like, I would like a demonstration. Thank you.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And then Bill Clint just wakes up from a wet dream.

[James Adomian]

And then the. The gavel is like. And they're like, your honor. She's like, no, no, that was just me.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, sorry. Excuse me, your honor.

[Dave Anthony]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna wet my finger right here. And you go ahead and get that butthole up here.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Permission to bang you like a gavel.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. So that must have been a weird day.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, then he definitely had sexual relations.

[Dave Anthony]

Well, that sounds like it, Right?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. There was thigh penis.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. Thigh breath. He definitely was grabbing her breasts. And. Yeah, we all ring her the whole deal. Bill denied asking Jones for sex. He didn't. He said he didn't remember being alone with Monica. You can't. He might not.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

Call her, kiddo.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I have nut amnesia.

[James Adomian]

I love that. They were like, let's expand this investigation to just everything I've done. Let's get it all out there. Make this, like, a preview of my judgment in the gates of heaven.

[Gareth Reynolds]

When I was 11, I played ooky kooky at a slumber party.

[Dave Anthony]

The worst thing about the right is that they make you have to defend people you hate.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, right.

[James Adomian]

Like, that's.

[Dave Anthony]

That's. That's their fucking talent, is they do the craziest shit. And you're like, no, not that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes.

[Dave Anthony]

Fucking.

[Gareth Reynolds]

There's so much stuff to get him on. Leave his dick alone, you fucking weirdos. And then after all that to have Trump after all this.

[Dave Anthony]

Trump. To have trump rape him.

[Gareth Reynolds]

McRae, the biggest rapist.

[Dave Anthony]

You couldn't.

[James Adomian]

You couldn't have Trump without Bill Clinton come before me. I don't think in many different avenues, including.

[Dave Anthony]

Including getting him to run.

[James Adomian]

Yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, right.

[James Adomian]

Yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

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[James Adomian]

They should, they should do 90s basketball ads like the Larry Bird, Michael Jordan and things where it's like Trump and Bill Clinton like we're both all stars. Right?

[Gareth Reynolds]

All right, I'm gonna throw her off the bed, scream the N word at her and still fuck her. Now hold on a minute now.

[James Adomian]

I'm gonna do that, but I'm not gonna come until she's in the next room.

[Gareth Reynolds]

McDonald's.

[Dave Anthony]

It's my thing. My thing is not coming. When they asked if Bill had taken Monica to the private hallway by the Oval Office and about gifts like the hat pin, he knew they had more info than he'd assumed. He apparently went super quiet for a long time. He was asked about Monica, quote, I have never had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky. I have never had an affair with her. After Bill told an advisor, quote, it went great. It really did. Did. But he knew it hadn't, by the way. There was a four. I think I took it out. But there was a four hour time limit on.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right.

[James Adomian]

Oh, tick tock.

[Dave Anthony]

So he was.

[James Adomian]

You just asked a question you shouldn't have because I'm gonna sit here.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Can I have another glass of water to pound?

[Dave Anthony]

So he was running out.

[James Adomian]

I'm gonna pee myself if you let me take a break. You want me to piss here?

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's up to you.

[James Adomian]

You guys want to watch?

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's sick.

[Dave Anthony]

Talked to Curry and kept saying we were never alone. Right. We were like. And now he's like in panic mode. Later, when told some of the things that he had said occurry were false, he said, quote, that depends how you define a loan.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, he was in big. That depends.

[James Adomian]

Yeah. Is this the same deposition where he's like, definite.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

The news exploded. Oh, sorry. Matt Drudge broke that Newsweek had a story about the affair.

[James Adomian]

Matt Drudge.

[Dave Anthony]

So Newsweek had contacted Trip about the woman, Wiley, who he. Who he grabbed because she just worked there. And then she told Newsweek there was.

[James Adomian]

More going on, you know, Drudge Report, 1999 breaking news.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I've got some more information you might like.

[Dave Anthony]

So he put that up and then he Then he put the Kathleen Wiley story up, and then now the national news just goes crazy. Rumors and trying to figure it out.

[Gareth Reynolds]

How big is his load? And.

[Dave Anthony]

And that's when Bill was.

[James Adomian]

It was. It was. It was like a fictional movie that happened on the news. Extreme every night for months.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Cultural shift point.

[Dave Anthony]

But people were exhausted by it and just like.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, well, no, because it was.

[James Adomian]

That was the end result. Like any. Like any affair, after a while, everyone gets tired of arguing about it.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But it was. It was like they. The media embraced it for what it was and ran with it. And by the end, yeah, we were all like, shut the up.

[Dave Anthony]

Right.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Don't care. Unions are more important than his load.

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You can't get him on the thing.

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[James Adomian]

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Well, he did tell her it was all lies.

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And I just want you to know it's all.

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This is the part. I don't believe that she believed him. I don't believe that. I think she knew.

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She.

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I think they had a marriage of convenience. For sure. Political convenience.

[James Adomian]

There must have been.

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Well, not even convenience. I think he could mess around and also.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, whatever it is. Yeah.

[James Adomian]

But that made it very inconvenient for her though at that moment. Even if they're not.

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Well, she. I think the agreement is. Yeah, you can around but don't let it get out there.

[James Adomian]

Which is exactly what he did.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But then she stood by him and it did make her a sympathetic figure. It felt like it softened her in the media for a minute.

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Sure.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You know.

[James Adomian]

Yeah, but that when. That when. When he had to break the news to her. That must have been NASA. Must have seen the radiation of the. Are you kidding me? That came out of the way.

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The fact that you up. Yes.

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[Gareth Reynolds]

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So the story is that she believed him and told an aide. Monica was a troubled woman and Bill must have been ministering to her. Quote, he ministers to troubled people all the time.

[James Adomian]

Ministering. Jesus Christ.

[Dave Anthony]

That's why I think this is just total horseshit.

[James Adomian]

So I don't. Yeah, I don't believe that. That. No, that's. You can't get dragging God into it.

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Get on your knees and get ready to take the body.

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Well, he's obviously a very religious man.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. Clearly a pious man man.

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Bill told senior staff he had no sexual relations and didn't Heard you.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, all right. You leave.

[Dave Anthony]

And didn't tell anyone to lie. He told one aide, Monica came to him, but he turned her down. Came on to him, but he turned her down. And he called her a stalker who threatened him unless he had an affair with her. So he's got two different stories going on there to different people.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But it's also amazing.

[James Adomian]

Well, you got to have. These stories are very adjacent to what may have happened.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's amazing for the President to be like, I was in fear for a lot of stuff over this 22 year old intern.

[James Adomian]

And they were trying.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The President.

[James Adomian]

They were trying to have, like, revenge on Nixon's resignation. They were, like, trying to make Bill Clinton resign.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, yeah.

[James Adomian]

They were like, we got nothing. Try it anyway. Yeah, so he lied about not lying.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes.

[Dave Anthony]

So he had interviews lined up that day because he was about to do the State of the Union, and he told PBS's NewsHour, quote, There is no improper relationship using the present tense. And when pressed, he said, quote, there is not a sexual relationship, an improper sexual relationship, or any kind of improper relationship. And then afterwards, his press secretary pulled him aside and said, look, people are going to think the present tense thing is pretty weird.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, I'm trying to get away with it. Is that obvious? I'm gonna do future tense, too. I'll never her again. Yeah, I will never her.

[James Adomian]

Well, it. It will have never been.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It will have never been.

[James Adomian]

It will have never. It will have never been at this now.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Do you understand now? Why are you looking at me confused?

[Dave Anthony]

What is time?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Time. All right, hold on a minute. Let's get into this.

[James Adomian]

Tick, tick.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Time is a time.

[James Adomian]

Time has come today. You know, I. I did not serve in Vietnam, but I felt the pain of those soldiers.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The songs of that time, with those songs.

[James Adomian]

Tick, tick, tick.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Just dancing around. Thomas, come to the President. Mr. President.

[James Adomian]

Dude.

[Dave Anthony]

After that, he had an interview with the paper, and he said, quote, the relationship was not sexual. So now he went, right, so you got it.

[James Adomian]

You gotta do a press tour. When you got big news, you gotta get out there.

[Dave Anthony]

So polls are still okay. People didn't think having an affair was relevant to his job, but they didn't like the idea of lying under oath. So his staff said to take a forceful stand. If it's not true, go out there.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And fucking took a forceful stand.

[Dave Anthony]

So he came out swinging in a TV appearance about childcare with Hillary and Gore. And he looked into the camera, pointed, and said, quote, I did not have sexual relations with that woman. Monica. Lewinsky. I never told anyone to lie. Not a single time. Never. These allegations are false. And then he walked off.

[James Adomian]

Off.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It was pretty shocking because it. When you saw it, you were like, all right, that seems like he's being pretty serious about this. Like, I would imagine that that is really true.

[James Adomian]

I mean, as a. Yeah. As a child, you were like. You were like, well, okay, he's so angry about it. Obviously, he did it.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Adomian]

And you also. There was this long history that was like. It was public right up to the point where he wasn't openly joking about being a guy jerking off on other people. Like, if it had been any more. If he'd been even more of a sex weirdo, he would have been bringing it up at, like, shows with a microphone.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, right. Yeah, but.

[James Adomian]

But so it was like. It was like right up till that point, and then he was like, ah, did not. And it was one of those things I remember, like, the click of the cameras was almost louder than the microphone talking.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It was an iconic moment. Yeah. And it is crazy that he was so full of.

[Dave Anthony]

So full of. That's where it's crazy. Like, you. Like, what man can go to this? Like. Like, how do you muster this kind of aggression for a lie?

[Gareth Reynolds]

But it's also Whitewater again. It's him saying, I would rather fight it than get rid of it.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Make it worse. You know, I'll clean the stain.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. So meanwhile, everyone painted Monica as a ditzy, emotionally unstable slut, but who maybe stalked the president. And Hillary was doing a lot of.

[James Adomian]

That was behind the scenes. That was her back channel.

[Dave Anthony]

She was really going hard at.

[James Adomian]

To all the Hollywood connections.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Adomian]

She had Jay Leno on speed dial.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean, they're huge fat. Look at her.

[James Adomian]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We got a bunch of people dressed up like Miss Piggy to walk around on stage.

[James Adomian]

The wig works for G. Leno at the same time.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hey, I tell you what. Unbelievable what she's doing right now, huh?

[James Adomian]

Hey, Kevin, you see this?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Kevin, you seen this? Yeah. I went to a barbecue over the weekend. There was spitfire roasting a pig. I walked over to it with an intern at the White House.

[Dave Anthony]

So Bill nails the State of the Union 104. Applause.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Not all he nailed.

[Dave Anthony]

Even Republicans say it's good. He keeps the.

[James Adomian]

Into the year 2000 or into 19.

[Dave Anthony]

No, we're not. We're in, like, 90, 96, 97. Like, we're not that far. We're 97.

[James Adomian]

Maybe 97.

[Dave Anthony]

I think it's 97. And Republicans say it's good. And 67 approval rating. Hillary calls stars investigation part of a quote, vast right wing conspiracy. Right wing conspiracy that has been conspiring against my husband since the day he announced the president. Which is true. That's the thing. That is true.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes.

[Dave Anthony]

It was a right wing experience. Yeah. Two things could be true. Yeah. Yeah. Star was working with right wing anti Clinton activist lawyers who called themselves the elves and worked to make sure the Jones case didn't fade.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What?

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Adomian]

Were they volunteers?

[Dave Anthony]

I think, yeah. I, I don't think they were getting paid.

[James Adomian]

They're like profit Friends of the Court or something like that.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. They're a group of right wing lawyers who are. Enjoy. Yeah.

[James Adomian]

We hate him. So we'll work for free. Which we never do. For this we will.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right? Yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

James Carville named one of the men Brett Kavanaugh. Do you want to hear the name of another one? George Conway. I can never get over the fact that liberals love George Conway. A federalist judge who did like this. He is a piece of war because.

[Gareth Reynolds]

He was married to Kellyanne and he was anti.

[Dave Anthony]

And he talked about Trump. He is a fucking. He built the fucking castle. You.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, it is like when you watch, if you watch MSNBC, it is the right wing from 20 years ago. Yep.

[James Adomian]

I mean that should be their slogan.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The right wing from 20 years ago.

[James Adomian]

Hey, did you MSNBC lean back and to the right.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Have you figured out you were a fucking right winger yet?

[Dave Anthony]

So now Bill has a pre planned trip to Africa and he stops in Rwanda and he's there for three hours. He never leaves the airport. He meets genocide survivors. And after he spoke to a larger group and said he realized he was in part responsible, he and other leaders didn't understand the depth and speed of what was happening.

[James Adomian]

That's the most guilt he's ever admitted for anything. I am partly responsible.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Adomian]

If I can blame other powerful people with me, I might admit some of it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

How is it possible for the person, the most powerful person in the world to be like, we didn't know the whole basis of this.

[Dave Anthony]

Bill Clinton knew less about Rwanda than Dave Anthony, a fucking middle comic in San Francisco.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Middle comic with a dad whose cosplaying is some sort of night of the round table.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, we all fucking knew. There's no. You don't get to rewrite genocide.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But that's what they'll be fucking. That's what they're. Biden, Kamala, they're already doing it.

[James Adomian]

Who shot the plane down? I always wonder that part.

[Dave Anthony]

Oh, yeah, we don't want to get into that.

[James Adomian]

I wonder who did that.

[Dave Anthony]

Here we go. Here comes conspiracy, Jimbo.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Now hold on a minute.

[James Adomian]

Yeah, but it's like a true conspiracy. So Alex Jones would never be interested. Yeah, we're not interested at all in what happened with the Rwanda genocide. In fact, I've never even brought. Brought it up.

[Dave Anthony]

It's definitely shady as 100%. And don't get me started on the senator from Minnesota.

[James Adomian]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

Oh, they kill.

[James Adomian]

Well, I know that was, that was pretty obvious.

[Dave Anthony]

That's one of the few conspiracies. I'm like, I'm gonna give you that one. That's okay. So he speaks to them, he says it's a lie. And then after he goes to a game reserve with Hillary and they're seen snuggling and dancing on a boat. And then he gets word that Judge Wright had issued an issue to summary judgment in his favor saying Jones failed to prove she experienced employment discrimination. And that night he was seen smoking a cigar and banging an African drum on a hotel by balcony.

[Gareth Reynolds]

This is drum.

[James Adomian]

Yep. That was when he was on his vacation in Bosnia or something or I.

[Dave Anthony]

Don'T know where they are at that point.

[James Adomian]

There was some news about the, the Yugoslavian conflict that they. Around the same time.

[Dave Anthony]

We'll get to that. Yeah, it's hard. I didn't want to mix them up too much because it was confusing. Yeah. So there. So he's having a great old time. He thinks he's free. He thinks he's free of stars investigation. But then he gets back to D.C. and Gingrich said, quote, Mr. President, we are going to run you out of town down. Monica makes a deal for immunity and she's turning over the cum dress. And Star asks for a blood sample from Bill. Give him prisoner plasma. I got a lot of blood.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Give him the prisoner plasma.

[Dave Anthony]

So Monica is now being hounded and confined in her D.C. apartment. Her neighbor Bob Dole feeds reporters gossip and gives them donuts.

[James Adomian]

She has a townhouse that's adjacent to Bob Dole.

[Dave Anthony]

I think she is from a well off family.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So fair to flag it.

[Dave Anthony]

But it's a fair flag. But also a lot of these guys just live in cheap shitty places while.

[James Adomian]

They'Re here in dc.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Adomian]

Oh yeah. They just live in some house.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, they don't, they don't care. They. Some of them live like four of them in a place, right?

[James Adomian]

Yes. Some even senators.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Adomian]

Have like roommates. Leonard, you're not washing the dishes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I told you, I'll get around to it.

[Dave Anthony]

I'm not passing your fucking crime bill.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Would you guys be quiet in there?

[James Adomian]

I'm watching my show.

[Gareth Reynolds]

My shows are on, and you're ruining them.

[James Adomian]

Your shows are garbage.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You don't even know what you're taught. That's it. I'm the only one who pays the Hulu Live bill, and I'm done doing that. We all suffer now, now, hold on a minute.

[Dave Anthony]

Um, so I just can't believe. Bald. What a dick. So Monica is so depressed, she has to be taken to a psychiatric hospital. Her lawyer then gets her to do a photo shoot with Vanity Fair, which is hugely mocked. So she fires her lawyer.

[James Adomian]

Right. Well, hey, you want. Don't you want to be magazine cover model famous for this?

[Dave Anthony]

I mean, Jesus Christ.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's crazy.

[Dave Anthony]

The way people take advantage of people in bad situations is crazy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Or even try to, like. Like, just read the room. I mean, she. She obviously goes into hiding, you know, for ages, because this is crazy. But to think that you could do Vanity Fair and be like, it's funny.

[James Adomian]

How Vanity Fair's career wasn't ruined after that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

After they're doing Jill Biden, like, our family's gonna decide what's right for us. It's like, yeah, sorry, that's not the deal.

[Dave Anthony]

So she gets a new lawyer, and she answers, you should do a People cover.

[James Adomian]

If she hadn't fired the lawyer. Here, we've got Disney adventures lined up for you.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Rolling Stone, anyone? Disney adventures.

[Dave Anthony]

Cat.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Fancy.

[Dave Anthony]

Don't get too excited, but I have one word. Penthouse.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What? What do you think?

[Dave Anthony]

I'm sure she got an offer from.

[James Adomian]

Penhouse, though that was still when Larry Flint was alive. Yeah, that offer came in immediately.

[Dave Anthony]

Oh, he's coming up. Larry Flint will be in the story very soon, so. So, yeah, her life. Jesus Christ. So as she gets a new lawyer, she answers prosecutors questions. And as far as Bill and obstruction, she gives them nothing. Questioning goes on for days. And stars team threatened her parents with legal action and IRS edit audits.

[James Adomian]

Legal.

[Dave Anthony]

So. So illegal.

[James Adomian]

You're not allowed to threaten the family with prosecution and tax audits.

[Dave Anthony]

No, it's insane.

[James Adomian]

That's illegal. I mean, that's the kind of thing Trump does now. But, yeah, legally, you're not allowed to. The IRS cannot be used politically.

[Dave Anthony]

She said she'd give a statement saying Bill told her to, quote, deny a relationship if ever asked about it. But who's she talking about? It's not like she's saying that he told her to do that in court. So Monica then went before a grand jury and she said no one asked her to lie. And quote, I hate Linda Tripp. Bill's DNA was matched to the cum dress. He'd already lied so much to the public. And days later, Osama bin Laden attacked U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing hundreds.

[James Adomian]

Oh, yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

And Tsunam Hussein is refusing to comply with UN weapons inspectors. So Bill had. During all this, Bill has to appear before the grand jury. But before he had to come clean to Hillary, so he tried to get other people to tell her.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You know, it's fucking amazing. Here's what's fucking amazing. It's amazing to. To be in the position that he has gotten himself. He's the fucking President of the United States, and he still is terrified. He's absolutely terrified of his wife. He's like, fuck. I'm so fucked, man. Seriously, I'm so.

[Dave Anthony]

You did what?

[James Adomian]

How dare you.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Send Al Gore to do it. Now, I have some interesting news for you, Hillary.

[James Adomian]

And she's so mad at him. She's like, I will make sure that you lose the next election.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's impossible. I'm a liar lock.

[Dave Anthony]

So I just love that there's a C dress. It's just.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's awesome.

[James Adomian]

That made. That made a lot of comedy careers at that time.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Halloween that year was spicy.

[Dave Anthony]

So he. He tries to get other people to tell her. A friend agrees. Agrees to give her, like, a heads up. But Hillary says, quote, my husband may have his faults, but he has never lied to me.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What?

[Dave Anthony]

And then when Bill isn't that crazy, he's never lied to me. Like, this is where you're just like.

[James Adomian]

I don't believe that.

[Dave Anthony]

What is the picture you're trying to paint of this person? Either she is wildly ignorant and easily duped, or she's lying.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Think of the balloons. Duh.

[Dave Anthony]

Like, neither one paints a picture of a person that you want, like, in charge of anything.

[James Adomian]

Not.

[Dave Anthony]

No, it's the same thing with Bill. Like, at the end of the day, why would you want a guy in charge of. He's this bad of a person.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. A come clown.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. So Bill tells her, and she is stunned. She later said, quote, I started crying and yelling at him. What do you mean? What are you saying? Why did you lie to me? I couldn't believe he would do anything to endanger our marriage and our. Our family. I was dumbfounded, heartbroken, and outraged that I believed him at all. This part, I just don't believe.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I don't either. I believe being wanting Chelsea to not have to go through this but everything else I think is bull.

[Dave Anthony]

I totally.

[James Adomian]

I think she's mad at the damage to the political family. That's all it is, you idiot.

[Dave Anthony]

You did this and it got out is what it is.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Like, oh, boy howdy, did it.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. Bill said he was trying to protect Hillary and he also then went and told Chelsea.

[James Adomian]

How often, how often did Bill and Hillary go to their separate bedroom? Oh, my God. Almost certainly they had separate bedrooms. Right. So how often would it have to be?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Why?

[James Adomian]

Could I have 15 minutes?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Fifteen. Oh, Jesus Christ. What? I want to see how you are.

[James Adomian]

It was. It's another woman. Believe it or not.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hallmark made a special card for him.

[Dave Anthony]

There better not be a come dress this time.

[James Adomian]

Well, the card says. I'm sorry again, I'm sorry, I blanked on blank.

[Dave Anthony]

Well, so now that he's told Chelsea and Chelsea and Hillary, he can testify. And he admits to inappropriate intimate contact that did not consist of sexual intercourse, nor did their contact fulfill the definition of sexual relationship of the Jones hearing. And he also refused to give detailed descriptions to, quote, preserve the dignity of the office.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Honestly, I would do it if I wasn't president.

[Dave Anthony]

Prosecutors have.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, sorry, huge load. This is a civilian.

[Dave Anthony]

This is when they had the four.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Ah.

[James Adomian]

Because they would. The right wing prosecutors would have won also if he defended. If he, if he successfully got himself off.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Thank you.

[James Adomian]

Bought. But also embarrassed himself so much where it was like, yes, look, my dick was on her. On her pants.

[Dave Anthony]

Right, that's right.

[James Adomian]

That, that he would have gotten off. He would have gotten acquitted or the charges dropped. But politically that would be devastating.

[Dave Anthony]

Yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right.

[James Adomian]

So, okay, you have to preserve the office of the presidency, meaning.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes.

[James Adomian]

You can't say that.

[Dave Anthony]

Right. Okay, so I'm sorry, this is where he had a four hour time limit and he tries to run out the clock. He was very good at muddying the waters with his answers. Like he agreed she had had sexual relations with him with the blowies, but that didn't mean he had sexual relations with her.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Genius.

[Dave Anthony]

It is genius.

[James Adomian]

There's a, there's a passive and an active role. And I think it's essentially sexist to say that the man is always the active partner. Something was being done to me.

[Gareth Reynolds]

She had sexual relations with me. I just jizzed on her dress.

[Dave Anthony]

He was asked if it was a lie when his lawyer said, quote, there is no sex of any kind in any manner, shape or form between Bill and Monica. And Bill replied, quote, that depends on what the meaning of the word is. Is the best when, when he Said that I was like, okay, he's a genius. He's a crazy up dude, but he's really.

[James Adomian]

Well, if you're that smart, you know, the law doesn't really apply because you realize you can wiggle out of anything if you don't feel guilty or afraid.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right. Die inside. You will win. That depends on what your definition of jizz. Jizz.

[Dave Anthony]

After this, star was very happy thinking they had him.

[James Adomian]

We've got him. We've got him. What it is, is I'll tell you.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Mr. President, take on form of worm.

[Dave Anthony]

The next night, Bill told the nation he had lied to them.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But I shot a big old voice.

[James Adomian]

My fellow Americans, I come to you tonight not in the same way that I came several months ago with a young lover.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And I'm instructing the Justice Department to release the dress because you should see the size of this stain.

[Dave Anthony]

It looks like it has been under a seagull's nest for a year.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It really does.

[James Adomian]

I challenge Speaker Gingrich and Majority Leader Bob Dole to come forward and come forward and show this country the size of their semen stains.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We will do it on the American Gladiator set. One of us will walk out. Come champion.

[James Adomian]

You will be balancing on a plastic bar, and there will be a large beach ball that comes down that will knock you over as you come.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We're gonna do the eliminator, but with a semen. Do you understand?

[Dave Anthony]

A country that jizzes together. Does other stuff together, I guess.

[Gareth Reynolds]

All right, sorry. I'm gonna go back to the prompter.

[Dave Anthony]

I'm way off script.

[James Adomian]

And this has got to be. It's got to be 98 by now.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Now.

[Dave Anthony]

I think so. Yeah. Yeah. It's not. Yeah.

[James Adomian]

The impeachment was.

[Dave Anthony]

It's the end of 98.

[James Adomian]

Uhhuh.

[Dave Anthony]

So. So, yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

This is impeachment time.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. The. The. So he tells the nation he lied. Says it's been going on for a year. People don't care. People are. This is when you said people are done. They're just done with it all.

[James Adomian]

It had dragged on too long.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And.

[James Adomian]

Right. Church people were like, we've almost got it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Him.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Adomian]

But they lost the room because everybody else is like, oh, we're not church people. We get it. He's embarrassed enough.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, we get it. We got.

[James Adomian]

It's not enough. It's not like Nixon.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yep.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. Right. Yep.

[Dave Anthony]

And he said he didn't lie under oath. He never said he was sorry. And then he said it was a Republican conspiracy. And then after that he went to Martha's Vineyard and a lot of angry Dems refused to take his calls. Over the next few days, Bill ordered attacks on bin Laden's training camps and an attack on a pharmaceutical plant in the Sudan.

[James Adomian]

Yep. Classic.

[Dave Anthony]

Classic way to go. I mean, just what come. Okay, I get, I get the bin Laden stuff, the Sudan thing. Fucking crazy.

[James Adomian]

They must have learned. I mean, Trump learned a lot from him.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

It's a really like, it's just so.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, I mean even having the fucking plane fly over the Epstein plate, I mean it's just like, like that blow.

[James Adomian]

Up a boat and just say they're drug dealers, right?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yep.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. He did understand the threat bin Laden posed, but he didn't do much more than attack the training camps. I think right wingers think he could have taken him out. I don't know. I've never really looked into it, but the, the right wing thing is like he had bin Laden and decided to kill him. Yeah, whatever. But, yeah, I mean, bin Laden's a hero. We don't need to go of that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'll be. I go to gth.com.

[Dave Anthony]

I could see Rogan saying that in a few years.

[James Adomian]

Oh, that's interesting. Oh, that's interesting.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jamie, will you bring that up?

[James Adomian]

I looked at, I looked at some of what bin Laden stood for and I didn't know this. Huh. That's it. Interesting. He has Graham Hancock on going like, it turns out that there was an ancient civilization.

[Gareth Reynolds]

There were two bin Laden's. One was inside the.

[James Adomian]

You know, I believe that because I think I saw that when I was on mushrooms one time.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Look at the water damage on bin laden's legs. There's two.

[Dave Anthony]

So Bill gets back to D.C. and he's hounded by angry Dems and a lot of them are asking him to resign. And he makes a tearful speech to his cabinet, apologizing. Some forgive him, some didn't. Women in his cabinet did not buy his excuse, which was the devil made me do it. One of them like yelled at him like, they're just like, this is really what you're going with? Like, did he.

[James Adomian]

He said the devil made me.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, but I mean, that was what.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hillary didn't do anything to you.

[Dave Anthony]

That was what it boiled down to. Like, I got a little monster inside of me and he makes me do bad things.

[James Adomian]

It's. I have a pretty problem and I had it under wraps for a minute, but somebody needs to stop me.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Complete, complete Billy Graham.

[Dave Anthony]

Yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Now if the women could just expose their cleavage a Little more. I think I could find my way back to the flock.

[Dave Anthony]

The next day, star gave his 452 page report to Congress.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Some of those are stuck together.

[James Adomian]

It was published, if I recall correctly. Like you could get it at Barnes and Noble.

[Dave Anthony]

His team, especially Brett Kavanaugh, put in every salacious detail they could. And then the House just put it up online. A bipartisan decision that even Kenneth Starr was thought was irresponsible.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, go yourself.

[Dave Anthony]

Polls showed people thought he lied but should stay president. Which is when the Republicans are just.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Like, what are we, France?

[Dave Anthony]

Republicans are shocked. People were upset that Republicans had spent $70 million to go after the President over consensual sex.

[James Adomian]

I remember then the line that went out among the Democrats. Many of them had disappointed. But then the line with the impeachment thing started and you had people like Barney Frank going like, I'm disappointed in the President. Do I think it rises to the level of impeachment? No.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, that's right.

[James Adomian]

The line was I'm disappointed, yeah. But I don't think it rises to the level of impeachment. And you got to see every other. Charlie Rangel was like, I'm disappointed in the President, but I don't think it rises to the level of impeachment. Every single Democrat went on the Sunday.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Shows and said that, oh my God.

[James Adomian]

Barney Frank, Barney Frank.

[Dave Anthony]

But at that point, from a political perspective, to let him get impeached and Gore become president and then run the country for a year and then he's probably a shoe in to win again. It's dumb.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes.

[James Adomian]

Oh, you think he should have gone ahead and resigned?

[Dave Anthony]

I think that they should have let Gore take over.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, yeah, that would probably been smarter.

[Dave Anthony]

That would have been the smart move to keep the succession of.

[James Adomian]

Because Al Gore was very comfortable having a limited amount of middle aged sex.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean, and he also distances himself fully from Clinton when he ran.

[Dave Anthony]

He was never going to win on his own.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I don't even remember him to be.

[Dave Anthony]

He. He ran such a terrible campaign.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We're against explicit lyrics and loads.

[Dave Anthony]

So is an election Republican.

[James Adomian]

I'm married to a woman who's afraid of sex.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean, good lord.

[Dave Anthony]

So there's an election and Republicans, we.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Have a wack closet where I go for my purpose.

[James Adomian]

Republicans, I'm lucky to be one of those American men that can take care of it in the shower.

[Gareth Reynolds]

All right, that long as Tipper gives me a minute every now and then. She gives me a minute in the tub to get it done during the shower.

[James Adomian]

She Knows that if it's a Saturday or a Sunday morning, it might be a longer than usual.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We call it a rain, Jack. Okay.

[Dave Anthony]

So Republicans lose five seats in the House. They still have the majority. It's just smaller. Gingrich resigns, and they still pursued impeachment.

[James Adomian]

This is the 98 election.

[Dave Anthony]

This is like, why are you still pursuing impeachment? Everyone's like, told you that they don't care.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Stop, stop. Worse than don't care. They're against it.

[Dave Anthony]

He reaches a settlement of 850,000 with Jones. Two articles of impeachment are brought with votes along party lines. Their obstruction of justice and perjury, which aren't treated reason or like they're not high crimes. So Bill bombs Saddam's nuclear weapons sites. Republicans called it a diversion. Bob Livingston, who was acting Republican speaker, demanded Bill's resignation. But Larry Flint had found four women Livingston had affairs with. I remember after Livingston announced he was retiring Republic, Republicans started screaming at Democrats on the floor, quote, are you happy? Is this what wanted?

[James Adomian]

And they were the ones that were doing it.

[Dave Anthony]

They started everything.

[James Adomian]

Yeah. Bob Livingston was speaker for like a week or something. He was Louisiana, right?

[Dave Anthony]

I think so.

[James Adomian]

He was Louisiana. And his whole thing was like. He was like, I'm resigning because I've done the same thing the President's done. But that means the President should also.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right, right.

[James Adomian]

He thought he could like Obi Wan.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Kenobi, the nice pivot.

[Dave Anthony]

And just the fact that Republicans are screaming, it's like, motherfuckers, you've been doing this for two years now.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, yeah, you're. Well, you. Aren't you the moral superior? Not the equivalent.

[Dave Anthony]

Republican Dennis Hastert became Speaker of the House. He was a pedophile, and we'd be imprisoned in 2011. Now, there was no way. So right now a pedophile is running the. The Republican House.

[James Adomian]

Sex crime, impeachment.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Adomian]

So. But yeah, it's. It's amazing. Brett probably taught him a lot about how to like, be quiet about it or something. Or he's like, oh, I better really keep going.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's just crazy.

[Dave Anthony]

So there's absolutely no way they're going to reach the 2/3 majority in the Senate needed to remove Bill as president. He is acquitted on February 12, 1999. And soon after, violence grows in Kosovo. Serbian President Milosevic.

[James Adomian]

He still has two years left in office. It feels like. It feels like it's. That's the end.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, well, it also feels like it's like a 15 year presidency.

[Dave Anthony]

Oh, no. He's Got something really horrible that he's going to do. Milosevic wants control of Kosovo. His troops massacred men, women and children in Reykjavik. Right, Right. Chick ratchet. Bill threatens airstrikes. Milosevic ignores him. NATO starts bombing. Bill says, we.

[James Adomian]

We did the Haiti thing. We. But Jimmy car Carter didn't go. Where's blame him? Jimmy didn't go.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'm available.

[Dave Anthony]

Hey, I'm here. Bill's like, I'm not gonna use ground forces. And that just emboldens Milosevic and he gets more brutal. Three thousands of civilians.

[James Adomian]

We are not gonna use ground troops. And that's not because this country is terrified of civilian casualties and our own guys getting killed. It's because I don't want. It's easier for him.

[Dave Anthony]

Thousands of civilians are put in camp. So Bill finally prepares to send troops. And that's when Milosevic pulls his military out of Kosovo. And also Russia was distance itself from. From Milosevic, which was probably a bigger part. But still the war's over. No American soldier sent. Now with more corporate dems in congress, everyone agreed it was time to deregulate the financial industry. Industry.

[James Adomian]

Yep. Now look, we. We've just gotten through a really tough constitutional crisis and I think it's time that this administration pulls back from this left wing tradition and maybe we try to be president of the entire country and do something right wing.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. So Glass Steagall was passed to prevent.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Dr. Was a piece of. Do you understand me?

[Dave Anthony]

It was passed to prevent federally insured commercial bank deposits from being used to finance riskier investments. It opened the door because this stock market crash, it opened the door for more conglomerates and increased risk taking by allowing banks to become more complex and leverage their positions. I mean that's what the. Over the. The getting rid of it did. So. Yeah, so we just took out the. Basically putting the brakes. The thing that put the brakes on crazy financial lunatics from just looting the country. And we're like, yeah, let's get rid of that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

He just undid it all.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, that was.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean he just. He just primed it all for a complete and total.

[Dave Anthony]

It was really.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean, really. Because obviously it's very obvious what you're doing. And then it's so easy if you're like, like, well, I mean, look at what. Who could have seen this coming? I mean the whole point was that this was coming just not on his watch. Like you're saying it's a short term gain.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah, short term.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But it isn't even really a short term gain.

[James Adomian]

No, it's a long term gain gain for the richest people. But if you transition from having a, A, a healthy country with a, a long expected lifespans and community power and stuff, if that's not what you want want. If you want a few people to have estates that they helicopter between then they worked. We're headed that direction.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yep.

[Dave Anthony]

It's. It's a short term game for his political goals. Which is a win.

[James Adomian]

Yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right. It's a win. It's something that he's like, no, we.

[Dave Anthony]

Did a good on that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yep.

[Dave Anthony]

So yeah, it opens the door for more conglomerates and increased risk.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Feels like he should have just been allowed to come in mouths a little bit more. Maybe it would have been like a little bit better long term.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. Well there should be. We should have a White House sex worker or two.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, we do.

[Dave Anthony]

It's the first lady risk taking. By allowing banks to become more complex and leverage their positions. Hillary decided to run.

[James Adomian]

This is the germ of the collateralized debt obligations.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Adomian]

The banks chopping up something absurd and calling it a valuable advantage investment y.

[Dave Anthony]

And, and that's kind of like the last thing he did in office that was, you know, of, of note. And it led to the housing crisis. Hillary decided to run for the Senate in New York in 2000 even though she'd never lived in New York.

[James Adomian]

And he goes, okay, this. Well, let's pivot to Hillary.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Great, great.

[James Adomian]

It's like wrestling tag team where the one guy barely survives tapping out. And then he goes, okay, now, now it's your turn, honey. Senator Hillary. I remember this.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. New York.

[Dave Anthony]

So they buy a house in Chappaqua and Hillary moved there in January of 2000 and announced she was running for Senate a month later. That to me was one of the craziest things to watch the. Like you're just not from New York. But everyone's like, yay, what are you doing?

[James Adomian]

That wasn't the first time in history someone had done that.

[Dave Anthony]

Not to that, but yeah. I mean, probably not, but it's pretty egregious.

[James Adomian]

Yeah, it is. Like, oh, now I'm from your state.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Adomian]

I didn't know. I thought you had to live there for a certain amount of time.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Like four years or something.

[Dave Anthony]

No, everything's different.

[James Adomian]

Maybe they had a P.O. box.

[Dave Anthony]

That's like what, that's like what Chance.

[James Adomian]

Cheney had in Wyoming.

[Dave Anthony]

I think I. Or was it one of them had a PO box in another state? Because you can't have two guys from the same state. But Bush and Gore were living in the Same state. I mean, Bush and Cheney were living in the same Bush.

[James Adomian]

Cheney were both Texans.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Adomian]

And then Cheney pretended to be from Wyoming.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[James Adomian]

Yeah. So she just sign me up for the post office box that I keep up in Laramie. That's where I have all the penthouses. Sent Granger catalogs, Sons of the Golden West.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hey.

[James Adomian]

Invites and memorabilia.

[Dave Anthony]

So Bill is ecstatic that she's running for the Senate.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Thank God.

[Dave Anthony]

Her campaign apparently brought them closer together. She sent him her speeches, and he'd write I love yous in the margins. Despite people's beliefs, advisors and friends said there was a genuine love connection between them.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's very hard to believe.

[James Adomian]

I. I think, look, it depends on what your definition of love is.

[Gareth Reynolds]

There.

[James Adomian]

There is. There is erotic love. There is platonic love. There is the many other loves described by the ancient ones.

[Dave Anthony]

I only know one guy who knew them. He was very, very good friends with Bill, and he said Hillary was the worst person he'd ever met in his.

[James Adomian]

Life that Bill had. Or that this guy had met the.

[Dave Anthony]

Worst that he had that the guy had met. He was like, she's. Because I was like, really? What she like? And he goes, it's so much worse than you think. When she was running in 2016, because she lost in 2008, I think it was Spielberg who was like, let me get my best acting guy to come out and you can stay in my penthouse in New York. This is also terrible. He will teach you how to be more likable and presentable.

[Gareth Reynolds]

He's going to show you balloons and show you how to react.

[Dave Anthony]

And it was supposed to last for a few days.

[James Adomian]

And she yelled at the guy and told him to shut up.

[Dave Anthony]

She lasted. She lasted like two hours.

[Gareth Reynolds]

She did the Christian Bale.

[James Adomian]

I get it. I think.

[Dave Anthony]

No, she told him to off. She wasn't.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Why are you moving lights while I'm trying to figure out what my character is.

[Dave Anthony]

Is. But they. They all knew, so they were trying.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What about people who hear you say that and say you are anti woman?

[Dave Anthony]

I would say that there's two things that are possible. I would say that Hillary was a woman who came up in an extremely misogynistic society at a time when women had to fight for every little scrap. And she was a tough woman, and she was smart and she knew how to succeed. And also she can, during all that, be a terrible person.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What about people who say that when you say something like that someone wrote that for you because you're anti woman?

[James Adomian]

I think that. I think that The Clintons became leaders at too young of an age with Bill's young career, I would agree with that. And I think that the, the trail of bullets that knocked down all the best populist left wing leaders in the 60s and 70s left a huge vacuum that someone like Bill Clinton should have been able to see the legislative victories of Robert Kennedy in office for eight years, should have been able to see two Kennedy administrations or something. Should have been able to see Jesse Jackson, if not Martin Luther King, become president in 1988. And we, the country was robbed of that. And so they represented an entire baby boom generation that saw, oh, the left always loses. Let's not be left because they didn't believe in it. And I get it. Sure, there's sociopaths everywhere, but sometimes they can be useful. You want them working for you sometimes, but you don't want them to be the boss. But if they had seen, oh, the left can win, they might have bet on it more.

[Gareth Reynolds]

More.

[James Adomian]

They might have gone down that direction. But we were deprived of that, I think.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Artificially deprived of all of that. And then it really does. It's like in order for you to get to that level of power now, you have to be to some extent an empty vessel that's just going to be a piggy bank for Wall street or oligarchs or billionaires.

[James Adomian]

Yeah, McGovern. Everybody's traumatized by McGovern, but I'm realizing he should not have even been running like it was. It was. That would have been Bobby Kennedy's reelection. He certainly would have beat Nixon. And they knew.

[Gareth Reynolds]

They let McGovern run because, well, there was.

[James Adomian]

They were. All the best guys were dead.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, they killed him. No, it's, it's. I always think back to that Noam Chomsky clip where he's talking to that journalist and he's in manufacturing consent. And the guy is just basically like. The guy is insulted by what Chomsky saying, where he's just sort of like, so you're suggesting that I'm like manipulating. And then he's like, no, I'm just saying you wouldn't be sitting there if they didn't think that you would be able. I mean, he just could den. He breaks the man down to a molecule.

[James Adomian]

But he's, he's personally offended at the idea of manufacturing consent.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes. While sitting there being the, the one to do it.

[Dave Anthony]

I don't think people understand how scarred boomers were by McGovern. When I was working on Marin, Ron Perlman was on the show. And I was like, like, if you guys pick Hillary Shalo. And he lost his screaming at me that Bernie was another McGo, another McGovern. They were. And you're just like, that was Vietnam. Like, what in the. Think about how many years ago that was. You're that scarred from that. What are you talking about? Yeah, they're deeply scarred.

[James Adomian]

Well, I like to think of it this way. When I was young, I shook hands with President John F. Kennedy. And I didn't know at the time, but my destiny at that moment was transferred from one president to another. And I lived out my entire public professional career as the political culmination of the assassination of a great man.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Man.

[James Adomian]

I made sure that all the. The great ideas of his family were also killed. Now, that took a few more decades, but in the end, we won. And how did we do it? By stepping right wing, right wing, right.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I was the grassy knoll.

[Dave Anthony]

So Gore run for. Runs for president. They were. They never really became good friends. And when he announced, he said, quote, I felt what the president did, especially as a parent. Parent, was inexcusable. So Bill was furious. And then Gore wants Bill to stay completely away from the campaign. And I remember that. I remember watching and going, he's got a huge. People love him.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Like, not only do people love him, it was shown that he became a sympathetic figure to some extent. It was all of that right wing.

[Dave Anthony]

Gore ran the worst campaign.

[Gareth Reynolds]

He still won, though.

[Dave Anthony]

But I will still. Yeah, he did win. But I will. I will say he didn't win the. He didn't run the worst campaign because then like three I saw after that were even worse.

[James Adomian]

Right then it's followed up with Kerry.

[Dave Anthony]

Oh, my God, Hillary. Thank God for Obama. Obama knew how to campaign. But then Hillary again and, you know, Biden was in a cave and there was a. There was a pandemic. Anyway, so he wants Bill away from the campaign on election day. Hillary won easily. But the Gore Bush fiasco plays out for over a month. And then when W was declared the winner, Gore met with Bill and said his chance to be president was ruined by Bill's sexual escapades. And Bill said, you blew it by distancing yourself from me. Bill's approval rating at that point was 66%, highest since World War II. And why both men left furious. People just liked him. Those short people, just like.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I don't. I don't know the answer, but it did seem like he was doing well. I don't.

[Dave Anthony]

The economy was because of the Internet.

[Gareth Reynolds]

He got. He Got helped a lot by that sort of.

[James Adomian]

Yeah, because the, the, the devastation of NAFTA took 10 years to hit.

[Gareth Reynolds]

All the stuff he did, he, he planted the seeds and ran away.

[James Adomian]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dave Anthony]

Final. The final night, Bill signed 140 pardon pardons, including tax fugitive Mark Rich, whose ex wife was a major Dem fundraiser, and donated hundreds of thousands to Bill's presidential library.

[James Adomian]

Yeah, I remember.

[Dave Anthony]

Bill also pardoned his half brother Roger Whitewater partner Susan McDougall and Patty Hearst. His approval rating then dropped to 39%. Oh, and Monica Lewinsky saved Social Security. Bill had ordered a bipartisan, bipartisan White House group to study privatizing Social Security. It was all set up by Larry Summers a month after Bill attended the first meeting of the group. Not the, the first meeting he went to, but they've been doing it for a long time. So it's moving forward to the point where the President's involved in the meetings. He was forced. A month later, he was a forced public knowledge. He was doing sex stuff with Monica, a team member, quote. It became clear to the White House that this was not the time to take risks on the scale that would be necessary to achieve a deal on an issue as contentious as Social Security reform. Reform just means privatize. They were going to privatize Social Security.

[James Adomian]

Wow. I thought you meant, I assumed that you meant that, that Monica at one point like pulled off his dick and was like, you know, you shouldn't.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Give me your dress.

[Dave Anthony]

So Now Hillary's in D.C. and Chelsea studying abroad and 50 year old bill opens a Harlem office and he's said to be very lonely and depressed. He started the Clinton foundation to fund projects around the world to fight 50.

[James Adomian]

What at that age?

[Dave Anthony]

54.

[James Adomian]

Ex President. Wow.

[Dave Anthony]

Crazy, right?

[James Adomian]

Sometimes people start at that age.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. So it's going to fight H of AIDS, climate change, gender equality, religious conflict. They raised 1.5 billion for charity in 10 years. Not a great track record. Some they did in Haiti is unconscionable and a lot. But there's also, again, if you try to look into the Clinton foundation, you're going to find a lot of right wing nonsense. And you have a hard time.

[James Adomian]

The right wing has fake things that they've done wrong when they have done actual things wrong.

[Dave Anthony]

Correct. That all always, always like they, they went in and they, they took over like six like 600 acres or something, like a giant area of, of farms and they turned it into this like industrial complex. And fewer people work there. And now Haiti doesn't have an Export of agriculture. They just have target taking wares. Right. So it's. It's shit like that. Anyway, so in September 2004, Bill had a quadruple bypass and became a vegan. Vegan. He raised money for Hurricane Katrina and 2,000 more tsunami victims. He took speaking engagements. He. The Washington Post said he made over a hundred million in fees between 2001 and 2013. In 2005, Jennifer Flowers was recently divorced. Quote, I was at home by myself, and the phone rings. It said unavailable. And I picked up the phone and it was him. And he wanted to come by my house and talk to me. And I said, no, you can't come over here. No way. And he said, I'll put on a hoodie and jog up there. And I said, no. And that was it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow, what a lunatic.

[Dave Anthony]

Right?

[James Adomian]

I'll put on a hoodie and jog up there. What? I mean, that means he's done it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Before, like, so crazy.

[Dave Anthony]

Isn't that crazy?

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's like, yeah, it's just a man. That's maybe the craziest thing in the story.

[Dave Anthony]

Like, this guy's out of his mind.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What is he doing?

[James Adomian]

Look, I'm just. There's an extra excitement thinking that it. It could probably get out and ruin my life.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Look, I know the caller ID said unavailable, but that's misleading. I'm very on the market.

[Dave Anthony]

Hillary ran for president in 2007 when Obama won South Carolina. Bill said, quote, jesse Jackson ran a good campaign, and Obama ran a good campaign. Here. It sounded like he was saying Obama only made a good showing because he.

[James Adomian]

Was black like Jackson, and that also he was doomed.

[Dave Anthony]

Yeah. Al Sharpton said Bill should shut up. Hillary had to publicly apologize. Bill's campaign role was diminished. Obviously, Obama won, and Bill campaigned for Obama and made Obama's official nomination speech. In 2015, Hillary ran again. Trump made sure Bill's sexual misconduct allegations resurfaced. Kathleen Wiley, Paula Jones, and Juanita Broadrick held a press conference with Trump. For years after her loss, Bill could barely sleep and had outbursts of rage as he vented about results to anyone who would listen. The Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficker scandal broke.

[James Adomian]

Broke.

[Dave Anthony]

Epstein visited the White House four times while Bill was president. Three times, he met with an aide. Once he went for a dinner. He donated $25,000 to Bill's foundation and went to a fundraising dinner with Bill. Bill flew on Epstein's private jet on trips for the Clinton foundation, but denied going to the island. And he says he cut ties 10 years before Epstein's Arrest. No. Flight logs have Bill as a passenger to the Virgin Islands. One of Epstein's victims, Virginia Jeffrey, who I believe is the one who did.

[James Adomian]

She, she's passed so. And she supposedly killed herself this last year.

[Dave Anthony]

Jesus Christ.

[Gareth Reynolds]

After saying that, that nothing like that would ever be something she would do.

[Dave Anthony]

She said, quote, yes, he would be a witness because he knew what my purpose was there for Jeffrey. And he visited Jeffrey's Island.

[James Adomian]

Look, just because there's a painting of me on, sitting across a chair with.

[Gareth Reynolds]

High heels on in a Lewinsky dress.

[James Adomian]

Lewinsky dress. And I have a cocktail in my hand, that doesn't mean I was there. You go to any town fair and there's some artists that can do caricatures of people.

[Gareth Reynolds]

There's a lot of those. By the way, that's a banks.

[James Adomian]

I'm selling them on my website, actually.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Is have them on my side.

[Dave Anthony]

Everything we've gone through in this episode, is there anybody who can say this guy did not go to Epstein's Island?

[James Adomian]

Right.

[Dave Anthony]

It would be completely out of character for him not to.

[James Adomian]

He was known for going to Epstein's Island. I remember reading about it before the whole Epstein scandal went down. There was some like LA Times where it was like former President Bill Clinton, like, like what's he up to now? One of these stories. And they like had followed him around for a week and so it was like a publicist kind of story. And they were like, oh, he's late to the speech.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Ha ha ha.

[James Adomian]

And then his friend Jeffrey Epstein has showed us. The first time I saw the name Jeffrey Epstein where it's like his friend Jeffrey Epstein shows up. Apparently there's some very wild parties and people have said something, something about underage or very young girls. And then they, it was just dropped. And then it was just like gossip in a gossip capacity.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean, look out of Trump or Clinton. Trump seems far more implicated in it.

[Dave Anthony]

Way more.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's very obvious that both, that's how.

[James Adomian]

They know each other so well.

[Dave Anthony]

That's what I think. I think you're right.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And, and they, they are very clear. Like it's, it's just so obvious and it, what is so frustrating about it is it is one of those things that actually is like a huge issue for everybody. Everybody in the country, no matter what your political ideology is, agrees that if this is actually going on, this is taking, this is happening. This is a enormous, illegal, non starter, reevaluate, get these people out of power, investigate, uproot it all that movie moment. And very clear that they're gonna do everything they can to make sure that doesn't.

[James Adomian]

Yeah, they're embedded at the very top.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes. Yep.

[James Adomian]

Deeply.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And it's, it's crazy because it is like, you know, they've been saying that for so long, you know, like this, it's like, it is Alex Jonesy where it's like, yeah, run by pedophile.

[James Adomian]

I was. And I was right about it. I was right about it, but I'm so insane that they let me keep saying it every day.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[James Adomian]

If I, I hadn't been so insane looking and sounding and my voice wasn't that of a madman, they would have assassinated me and I would never be allowed to speak. I'm allowed to speak because I discredit what I believe.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I am deeply unserious because I am still breathing. But it is, it is.

[James Adomian]

If Alex Jones had been good at what he was doing, yes, they would have, they would have Julian assanged him without question.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes.

[James Adomian]

He would not just now be getting pardoned at best.

[Dave Anthony]

Bill, now 79. And recently some Maxwell thing came out. She said something about, but I'm not going to bring her up because she's a pedophile lying out of her tit, so I'm not going to. Bill, now 79, lives with Hillary in Chapaqua, New York and serves on the board of directors for the Clinton Foundation. Bill's short term victories split the Democratic party, crushed unions. His great feat of creating a budget surplus turned out to be complete, completely pointless. After attacking big government for years, he couldn't use the surplus on a big infrastructure project. His staff worried the Republican Congress would give tax refunds with the surplus. So the surplus became an albatross and wasn't useful. By killing unions, he eliminated the main gathering place of the left working class. There was a day to day understanding of collectivity amongst, amongst workers, with others, which created a way of thinking about the world that spread across different, you know, areas. The rich had the right, had megachurches and gun clubs and things like that. And that's now where the working class gathers and talks. His telecommunications bill allowed right wing media companies like Sinclair to dominate the local news and take over all the other news. His repeal of depression era financial regulations led directly to the housing crash, blowing health care, blowing health care reform left hundreds of thousands dead. Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Clinton. I mean 100%, that dude is the biggest reason we got Trump and got here to where we are with fascism.

[James Adomian]

Look, it sounds like you rate me a zero, Dave, but look, I'm gonna turn that zero upside down.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Now what am I? A hole?

[James Adomian]

Man, it does look good, man.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'll tell you. Down.

[James Adomian]

Don't stop thinking about tomorrow.

[Dave Anthony]

Britney. Britney Cohen Brown did the research Sources the Survivor Bill Clinton in the White House by John F. Harris first in His Class A Biography of Bill Clinton by David Marinus look, it might be.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Nice for you to eat a possum candy cane over there while we're wrapping.

[Dave Anthony]

Out a vast conspiracy. The Real Story of the Sex Scandal that Nearly Brought Down a President by Jeffrey Toobin Bill Clinton New Gilded Age President by Patrick Maney the Life of Bill Clinton 2004 Living history by Hillary Rotten Clinton Shattered Inside Hillary Clinton's Doomed Campaign by Jonathan Allen Monica's Story by Andrew Morton the War Room the Clinton Affair the Linda Tripp Tapes Footage of Bill Clinton's testimony of the grand jury Footage of Bill Clinton's testimony and Paula Jones deposition the Star Report Transcript of Monica Lindsay's grand jury testimony AP Footage of Bill Clinton's address to the Nation Articles how the Clintons Went From Dead Broke to Rich The Washington Post 1994 crime bill and Beyond how how the Federal Funding shapes criminal justice the 08 race the other Clinton Steps Up Clinton's Camp Seeks Gentler Role for Ex President in the New York Times Clinton Campaign Advisors Bill Clinton Needs to stop CNN the 991994 crime bill did the 1994 crime bill cause mass Incarceration? The Brookings Institute Brooks Institute is a really great one to cover up really bad shit that's happened. Can Biden Center Hold New Yorker Magazine?

[Gareth Reynolds]

I know the answer to that article.

[Dave Anthony]

Bill Clinton Concedes Role in Mass Incarceration CNN Trump Offers no Evidence for a Claim about Bill Clinton and epstein island fact check.org Confessions of a Clinton World Exile Vanity Fair the Politician Bill Clinton's Life the New Yorker Arkansas Prisoner Blood Scan Scandal Encyclopedia of Arkansas the Bloody Truth Examining America's Blood industry and its Tort liability through the Arkansas Prison Plasma Scandal Mary Business Law Review Testimony of by Kelly Duda Created the Factor VIII documentary for the Infected Blood Requiry the Blood Thing is crazy yeah the baffler.com Casualties of Quintonism Politico Hillary Clinton Email Monthly Review Neoliberalism from Reagan to Clinton.

[James Adomian]

That'S a good title.

[Dave Anthony]

Remarks Signing the Telecom Title for America Remarks Signing the Telecommunications act at the Presidency UCSB and How Monica Lewinsky Saves Social Security on Counterpunch man well, I.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Think we should should thank James Adomian for being here for so long.

[Dave Anthony]

Thank you.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Thank you thank Luke for eating two possum candy canes.

[James Adomian]

I think we've been here a few days. I think I missed my shows in Columbus.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Worth it?

[James Adomian]

Well, yeah, we've been here for. This was 96 hours, I believe.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I think we started.

[James Adomian]

We still might just barely make it to JFL Toronto.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, thank you, James. Truly, you're the best. So thank you for doing this and thank you for staying for six hours.

[James Adomian]

I wasn't counting.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean, but that was fucking crazy.

[James Adomian]

Look, if you get a jog in six hours.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Thank you, Dave. Thank you everybody who watched hung in there for the live stream or joining the Patreon.

[Dave Anthony]

Thank you, Brittany for writing.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Thank you, Brittany. Thank you, Aaron in the booth. Thank you atc. And thank you everybody who keeps hanging around and listening to this show or watching this show or whatever you're doing. We appreciate the out of it. So thank you. Thank you very much. Thanks everybody. Go to $podcast.com if you want.

[James Adomian]

Congratulations on 700.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Thank you. Jesus Christ smell coming from that Jason mask. Hey, dollop fans. I know you love the dollop. You love listening to the dollop. Do you want to watch the dollop? You're like, gareth, what are you talking about? By the way, it's not Gary, it's Gareth. Well, we have partnered with Lakeside Animation and we are starting to animate some of our episodes. So if you want to go watch a five parter animation, which is actually like a 22 minute episode or 30 minute episode, I can't remember, of the rube, you can go to LakeSide Animation on YouTube and watch a really awesome animation of the rube. It really genuinely kicks ass and we're very proud of it. And the more you share it, the more you give it to people, the more you follow Lakeside, all that stuff, the better chance we have of making a lot more of them. We're already making a second one, so go there and watch the rube.