← The Downfall Of Diddy | The Case Against Sean 'Puffy P Diddy' Combs
The Downfall Of Diddy | The Case Against Sean 'Puffy P Diddy' Combs
Who Is Diddy in Jail? FBI Profiler Analyzes the Man, the Myth, the Manipulator-WEEK IN REVIEW
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This is Hidden Killers live with Tony Bruski, Stacy Cole, and Todd Michaels. It's the day of reckoning for Sean Diddy Combs. If you're watching us live, if you're not, well, the verdict is coming in. And Sean Diddy Combs, of course, standing condemned not by Gossip Collins, but by a jury in a federal courtroom. He's been convicted on two counts of transporting individual across state lines for prostitution, arranging freak off events with escorts and former partners. He escaped conviction on racketeering and sex trafficking charges. But those acquittals don't erase what he's been found guilty of doing. Now on the eve, or now on the day actually, of his sentencing, Combs has submitted a letter to the judge. And it reads like contrition. And we're gonna, we're gonna hear it. We're gonna listen to the whole letter through a simulated voice of Diddy and we'll hear, you know, kind of in his own words while we watch some fine footage that also defines the man. You know, just, you know, for context. The whole letter, like I said, it reads like contrition, but in reality, it's a calculated reframe. He highlights his charitable work, his family, his supposed spiritual awakening, and the classic tools in a narcissist playbook. He's not simply taking responsibility. He's trying to reposition himself as a man deserving of mercy. What Combs is really trying to avoid is a sentence that forces him to truly own the harm he inflicted. He's trying to preserve his legacy, to shape the narrative before the judge even speaks. He's not just pleading for a shorter prison term. He's pleading to remain in control of his image even as the system closes in. I don't think this is humility. It's a maneuver, and it's exactly the kind of move a narcissist makes when accountability is finally at the door. The victims and the record demand consequences, not spin. And that's what this sentencing will decide. So we don't even know what the sentencing is because literally, it's going on as we're recording this. We're going to go through the letter. And joining us to do that, we got Stacy, we got Todd, and we also have Robin Drake, retired FBI special agent, former chief of the counterintelligence, intelligence, behavioral analysis program. Diddy also started a class while he was in prison, and he talks about it in the letter, and it's one of those things he's putting up basically on his resume of, you know, dear judge, I think you should let me out, because I'm gonna go inspire the world.
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He's a scholar now.
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I said very early on in all this, I said, you know what's gonna happen? He's gonna come out of here and he's gonna become a preacher. Kind of feels like he almost might be doing that. What's your thoughts, Robin? Just here as we're about to go into sentencing and what you think he should get versus what you think he will get before we go into the letter and everything else.
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What he should get versus what he will get. That's the big question. I can't believe he got acquitted on so many of the charges as it was. So I have no idea. I really don't have any idea. But what's interesting. So when I first saw about his class, the first thing that struck me was the class is about him because Diddy's in the title. Then, of course, the curiosity strikes in. So I immediately did a deep dive. All right, how many other inmates conduct classes? How many do these things? And also then I said, how often has Diddy done these things in the past? When's the first time he did these things? So I'm always looking for what that arc. And so I discovered the arc and came to where we are now. So then you ask yourself, had he not been in jail, would he have done such a philanthropic type thing? No. No. So. So there's there. I don't see remorse here. I see. Now, granted, the other first impression I had was, oh, this guy's genius, you know, Then you look at the content and I'm sure, so here's what's interesting, I'm sure, because is talented. And so this is where we see someone with that objective eye. He's got a lot of talent and he's got a lot to offer. But he's been so corrupted by that self serving narcissism that it's a shame it's getting lost in that. Because I'm sure like when he first started his first school years ago, it was for inner city youth. You know, I'm trying to look through my notes right now to find a title of it. It got great reviews. He was doing good things. But then if you look at the arc of him doing that, those, those things to serve a community, his involvement got more distant. He started handing it off to people. And even in the prison, I looked at this, he's got a teaching assistant. So how much is he really doing? I mean, who gets a teaching assistant? You're a freaking convict. It's a shame because I think people like him, you didn't get to where they are without having talent. And I get this feeling that it's being wasted. But yeah, this is, to me, it's a, it's an arc part of his manipulation. Because you don't go from being what he's accused of to all sudden having this aha moment before, before he's sentenced. You know, these are the kind of things that you go to prison after 10, 15, 20 years. And during that process, then you have your aha moment. You know, the Titanic hits or is coming up on an ice. You turn that rudder hard over ship, start slowly moving and you still hitting the iceberg, but not as much. So 0 to 100 on him. I don't believe it.
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Wait till you hear the letter and we'll break it down and we'll stop at places. But I also want to say 50 Cent also released a statement or a letter to the judge, if you will, this morning. And I'll read it right here. I'm gonna have to turn to do this. I have had an ongoing dispute with Puffy for over 20 years. He's very dangerous. Starts Dear Judge Submarine. He's very dangerous. Multiple times I have feared for my life. I think you should consider the safety of the general public, your honor, before unleashing him upon them. There hasn't been enough time for him to reform or make any adjustments despite his trying to teach a class in there. As you're already aware, the government has spent the maximum amount of money on deploying federal agencies, which appeared to be an army in two locations simultaneously. Later, his son, who's dealing with his own rape allegations, claimed that the feds had hit the wrong house. Anyway, Diddy's only going to return to hiring more male sex workers and keeping most of the baby oil away from the general public.
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Oh, my.
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And babies need it. Vinnie says my Netflix doc on this scandalous subject is coming soon. So it's kind of a dig and kind of, I think, serious at the same time. But also, he's. He's been finding a lot of humor in the. The darkness of this as, as. As of we. But that's. That's the statement from 50 Cent this morning.
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Look at behavior is rewarding. I mean, just. Even the acquittal. Look at the behavior. It's rewarding. I really hope that the judge does some justice for the victims that didn't have justice by the fact of the sentence. Not the sentence, the convictions.
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I mean, just.
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What a. What a. What a sham.
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Let's start to listen to the letter here and we'll stop if you want it to stop. If you want to make a comment, just raise your hand, throw something at your screen, do whatever you need to do, you know, just scream, stop. Something like that.
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Careful what you wish for.
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Or Tony, sing a song.
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All right, here we go.
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Dear Judge Supermania, I hope this letter finds you well and in good health and spirits. Thank you for the opportunity to express my thoughts to you. First and foremost, I want to apologize and say how sincerely sorry I am for all of the hurt and pain that I have caused others by my conduct. I take full responsibility and accountability for my past wrongs. This has been the hardest two years of my life, and I have no one to blame for my current reality and situation but myself. In my life, I have made many mistakes, but I am no longer running from them. I am so sorry for the hurt that I caused. But I understand that the mere words I'm sorry will never be good enough, as these words alone cannot erase the pain from the past. Over the past 13 months, I have had to look in the mirror like never before. My pain became my teacher. My sadness was my motivator. I have to admit, my downfall was rooted in my selfishness. The scene and images of me assaulting Cassie play over and over in my head daily. I literally lost my. I was dead wrong for putting my hands on the woman that I loved. I'm sorry for that and always will be. My domestic violence will always be a heavy burden that I will have to forever carry the remorse, the sorrow, the regret, the disappointment, the shame. I honestly feel sorry for something that I couldn't forgive someone else for. If they put their hands on one of my daughters. This is why it is so hard for me to forgive myself. It is like a deep wound that leaves an ugly scar. Your Honor, I thought I was providing for Jane concerning her and her child, but after hearing her testimony, I realized that I hurt her. For this, I am deeply sorry. And I'm on my way. I got.
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That's the part that he's talking about the relationships, about Cassie. And then there's the other Jane Doe that was brought up in the trial. That's who he's addressing there. But he's gonna go into other areas on this list. I wanna talk first about the Cassie and the other one that he thought he was provid. What are you getting so far? And I should note this, too. That is not Diddy actually reading this. So before you go. Oh, he sounds heartless. It's AI okay, that is an AI version of him reading the letter.
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It feels like a song. It sounds like he just. He wrote, I can't. I haven't had coffee today. Help me. Sorry, let me start that over. It sounds like lyrics, like he is writing a song. Did it have kind of. I mean, obviously it was the cadence, but to me, it felt like he was. There was a bridge of some sort.
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Oh, believe me, that idea ran through my mind last night when I was putting that together. I mean, I was, like, literally thinking of, like, ooh, with AI, I could, like, literally turn this into lyrics. I could have him rap it. I could put it to beats. And then I said, it's midnight. I'd like to go to bed. And so you get classical music and Diddy reading it. That's what you got. But, no, I mean. And look, it's very eloquently written. I'll give him that. He wrote it pretty well. And I'm guessing, you know, he had how long to craft this letter and really make sure the final edit was going to be solid. And if you don't understand human behavior and you don't understand the arc of his behavior, you don't understand his baseline. And you just are taking this at face value. It sounds like someone who's really reformed. And then you realize he's a raging narcissist.
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Yeah, I mean, there's a good number of statements in there that are focused on how he feels and the impact on him. But if you're victim Focused, which is what you should be. You wouldn't say anything about the impact on you. He should only be talking about if this is genuine, sincere, and he's empathetic, the impact on others. You know, again, we can compare and contrast. You know, just think. And I know I keep bringing this up because I think it's a great example of injustice in our system. Richard Allen. Richard Allen, who is convicted of murdering those two sweet little girls. Everything he's ever said behind bars was the impact and being sorry for his wife. He never once said the suffering he went through, not once in anything he's ever said. And all you hear and hear for Diddy, because he had 13 months of being uncomfortable is the impact on me. It's interesting, too, because he's bringing up. I mean, to me, this is a. It's a strategic. In what he put in there. So he's actually talking about people and what he did to him, and those aren't even the things he was convicted on, you know, so. So. So why even bring it up? See what I mean? I mean, I get it. It's a strategic move to show he's sorry for the things that he should have been convicted about, like the. Like the assaulting of women and all that malfeasance, but he wasn't. So he's gonna apologize for stuff he didn't get convicted of anyway.
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He's controlling the narrative. He's trying to. He's just gonna. He wants to put it all behind. And now he wants to be an advocate going forward, you know, and he's gonna. He's gonna be the example. He's gonna be the shining beacon on the hill. And everyone's. Everyone's gonna come to Diddy. He's gonna have a big statue out there. You know, it just gonna happen to look like Jesus. But it's gon. It's going to work.
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I mean, everyone. You either like him or don't like him. If you like him, this is perfect. If you don't like him, it's. It's. It is. You know, it is what it is. And that's why it's very challenging, because when you have such a large cultist following around you, you know that. That cultish following could be rattled a little bit by this prosecution. But then he's acquitted of things, and so. And now he's saying sorry. So I think he probably, in his cultish following, didn't lose a single person, maybe one, because I don't think he.
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Has a huge cultish following, though.
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I mean, yeah, I hope not.
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I think more people are more apt to go listen to R. Kelly than they are to Diddy. And I think Diddy was probably worse at the end of the day. Obviously not by what he was found guilty of, but just opinion wise. And if you're gonna believe the survivors and the stories and the sheer volume of the hundreds of them that have come out about Diddy, what I'm worrying about with all of this is the public's ability to forget. The public's ability to forget because it feels icky to think that in the 90s that you were listening to some of this music and there's a lot of positive memories associated with it that ew, gosh, he did all these sort of things. I don't wanna think about that. I just wanna go back to when he was just Diddy, when he was showing up on trl, when it was those days we didn't know what was going on behind the curtains, even though we know a lot of dark stuff was going on back then too. And the public's ability to just be like, we're good. I don't wanna call it forgiving, but cognitive dissonance, but then still enabling the person's art to exist. And it doesn't mean you have to disconnect those pieces of your life and I guess remember them fondly. But we have a hard time separating the two. We do with R. Kelly, we do with Michael Jackson, we do with all those sort of things. And whether you want to. Again, I'm not gonna go into the rabbit holes of who's guilty and who's not. But very strong allegations against all these people and very tangible evidence against all of them that really do not paint the picture of human beings that anyone in their right mind, I think for the most part would consider to be safe around children or good or anyone. Or anyone.
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Yeah, they're just really unhealthy people that started out maybe healthy again. It's so, isn't it a tragedy is when you, when you see someone have such talent and they just take it and they get wrapped up in their own self narcissistic ways and they throw it in the trash can. But, but to your point too, you know, I think it will because this is so bland because the, the charges that he was convicted of were so bland. It'll, it's, it's not nearly the impact that that's going to keep, keep people running away from him. I think it's just gonna get faded. So it really, it'll Be really interesting to see what happens next. I. I would be. I'll be. Here's what I'm really interested in. Once he's sentenced today, will he continue to do those classes? Once he's sentenced today, if it's a light sentence and gets out, will he do great work for communities himself or will he pass it off to someone else for image rebranding and rebuilding? I mean.
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I think he's going to do it. I mean, I think he's going to be out there. I think he's going to try and be a motivational person and I think you'll get some people who will believe it. But I don't think it's coming from the right spot. It's coming from. I need to feed my ego. I need to feed this thing inside of me rather than. I mean, I mean, people can look at it all different ways. Well, maybe that is redemption. Maybe that is somebody that truly did find the light and they're changing it. But presentation to the outside world is not necessarily the same of what's going on inside somebody, and only that person can truly know it. But I think any of us, you know, who study human behavior for two seconds look and go.
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You'll see the leakage. You'll see the leakage. And to that point, I think here's what we're good at on this is, you know, no matter what happens with, whether it's politics or religions or beliefs or covering these cases, we have been swayed back and forth, you know, by new data coming in. I mean, the way we covered Karen Reed, you know, we were back and forth on that because as new data comes in, new, new testimonies coming in, you know, we're swaying back and forth on this. And same thing on the Delphi case. I mean, when we first went in there, you know, I wasn't really thinking about him. We're thinking about, you know, how corrupt the police department was or how weird and strange. And then we're looking at the, the defense attorneys that are talking about, you know, Odinism and everything, like, what the hell? And then all of a sudden you meet him, Richard Allen, and you're like, oh, my God, this wasn't about anything except them torturing this guy. You know. So again, when you can maintain that objectivity, when you're taking the new data on things, it's much easier to see these arcs of what is I. To that point, I have to give these long narrative answers to. I think it's going to be really, really obvious really, really quickly if you can maintain objectivity on watching what he does afterwards and if there's congruency between the words, actions and deeds. Because that's all I ever. I'm ever looking for is. Is to see if someone. It's. It's always think about this. So everyone can do this. If someone makes you feel creepy, it's because one, you're not close enough to have your own confirmation bias on liking or disliking because that'll really screw up, you know what you're observing potentially unless you can remove yourself. But if someone makes you feel creepy, it's because there's incongruency between words, actions and deeds. There's tempos that are off, they're pressing things on you. And so those are the things that are off putting to us. Because what, what's creepy? Creepiers things and people that don't make us feel safe. Because there's a hidden agenda, there's a temp of manipulation or subterfuge or something like that. And so that's why observing him, since I never liked him or disliked him and with all these people we cover, it's really easy to kind of sit back and look at these arcs and say, well, here's boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And for him to go from 0 to 100, you know, self serving to altruistically do these things. Likelihood damn close to zero. Now will we make the attempt? Sure.
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And I think. Excuse me, I gotta take a sip of water here.
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That's all right.
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I'm about to talk. I'm coughing. I think one of the key things on anyone's prison when they're looking at Diddy or a character like this that has, you know, committed crimes as the ones that he has committed or the ones he's accused of committing. And whether you want to believe it or not, and just believing the stories and the survivors and the sheer amount of people who have stories about Diddy is believing and understand and going one way or the other. I believe a lot of things live in the gray. Not with people like this. People like this, they are either redeemable or they are not. They are either rehabilitatable or not. I'm going to. I'm in the camp of someone like Diddy is not maybe on the surface, you know, maybe we. Maybe he will not reoffend technically. But I don't think you're truly changing the person. I don't think a person like that can truly be changed. I just don't. If you have it in you at some point in your life that you think stomping on your girlfriend's head in an elevator bank is a good idea. I don't care how fucked up you are. I don't care what drugs you're on. I don't care. Whatever you're doing, if that's ever a point in your life that this is a action you are capable of doing and taking, you're irredeemable. You're capable of doing it. You can do it again. You will likely do it again, statistically. And I think there's just some people that are just trash and there really isn't any fixing them. And that's how I feel about Sean Combs. That's my opinion there.
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So I, I, I probably agree about 99 on that, but. And I, I always say there's like a 1%, because, you know, I'm thinking that as you're doing this, you always see my eyes go up to the left as I'm thinking about these things.
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Sure.
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So, yes, if you're definitely, if you're dealing with child predators, pedophiles, co burger types that, you know, have a brain malformation, which we don't really know about. Diddy on that end of it. But I, but here's what I say to your point, though. Is he redeemable in order to be redeemable? So think about this. Do our little thought experiments that I love to do. If someone has risen this high in order to hit bottom. So to have an aha moment in your life, then you have to go to bottom to be able to start that climb back up to humanity. You know, it's, it's that rock bottom we all hit. I don't think he ever hit a bottom. So if he's up here in prisons down here, he probably fell in right in here. He even said the word uncomfortable.
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Yeah, right.
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He was uncomfortable for 13 months. Is that really a bottom that you're gonna have these aha moments?
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And if you know how narcissists and people like this work, this is just part of the path. This is part of the show. This is part of the play that they're gonna do for survival. And look, they're trying to survive on their own. I don't necessarily know that he's sitting there plotting, you know, necessarily nefariously. I think he may think he's doing the right thing, but I think he has such a broken brain and so incapable of feeling empathy for other human beings that it's, that's why it always feels weird and it feels off because the capability for empathy, in my opinion, is not there. It doesn't exist. And when that doesn't exist in a human being, that makes him a very dangerous human being. And with the propensity and the power and the history that this man has, the odds of him falling back into something like this or just doing this stuff again behind closed doors, insanely high.
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Let me throw something in.
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I want me to find it. Go ahead.
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Sorry, Robin. So he is now sober for the first time in what, 25 years. He's off the Xanax. He's off the alcohol.
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Maybe.
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Well, I mean, as of right now, until he gets out, I mean, I can't imagine he's going to be. Start popping bottles the second that ends well.
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But I. And I don't ever want to defend this man. But maybe the substances really were causing a lot of the issues. So what if we see a sober Diddy?
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No.
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What does that look like?
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That's like saying, oh, it's okay. You know, maybe a sober husband doesn't beat his wife now that he's not drinking anymore. He's not going to do that. No, but if you're capable of doing it, you're capable of doing it, fucked up or not.
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I get that. But I also. Now he's got a different baseline. So what? And again, I'm not defending the guy. I think he's absolute scum. But what if this is his path to redemption? Could it work?
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No.
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Tony says no. Robin, Todd, anyone?
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So if he hit. So to your point, Stacy, I've been around beautifully raging alcoholics and substance abusers in my life as well. And when. So if he. If indeed he's sober, because there's ways to get around that in prison as well, especially if you're connected like Diddy is. So I don't know the circumstances of the prison he's in and the connections he was able to maintain, because I don't think he really, truly hit a bottom there. Because just because he's Diddy. Now, that being said, now, now, if sobriety took hold, then it's not a zero to 100. It's. It's a slow crawl and walk back. So as many years as it took him to fall into this, it would be at least as many, if not double, to come back out. I. I'm. I'm edging more on the. Tony. No.
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There is no redemption. No, no, I mean. I mean, will it. Will it. You know, is it a. Is it a road bump in the road? You Know, little. Little speed bump, Sure. I mean, like Robin said, it's not 0 to 100, but, you know, it's still there. It's still. Again, it's one of those things. Like there's certain people in this world, if you're diddling with kids, and I'm not saying diddy diddled with kids. I'm saying people that do that, if that's in you, that's in you. That's not coming out.
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Yeah. So.
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And if you're able to beat your woman, beat a woman, beat your wife, beat your girlfriend, beat whatever, beat anybody mercilessly that you care about and do these sort of things and have such unhealthy relationships like he was having, then that's in you. And you're not. I mean, you may change your ways and go, well, it's not for me anymore because it makes other people look at me like I'm a monster. It's because you're a fucking monster.
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C
So he went, so again, now we'll go on that side. Because, you know, I was really focusing in on the physical abuse he was doing. But he's also an amazing amount of it. Accused sexual abuse going on. So basically, between the physical abuse, sexual abuse, psychological abuse, he lived completely without any moral, ethical boundaries for how long? That's a long time and so decades. In order for him to start reintegrating a functional brain with ethics and morals again, he's not going to wake up and say, oh, my God, everything I was doing in life was completely backasser drawn. And you know why? You know, he doesn't think that. Because he's a. Teaching a class on how to be diddy.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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Like this is a good thing.
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Yes. You know, he's not teaching a class on sobriety. He's not teaching a class on how to get over sexually abusing people. He's not teaching a class on how not to be violent. He's teaching a class on how to be diddy.
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Yeah.
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Isn't that telling?
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Yes, it's 1,000% telling.
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So if he's teaching a class on how to be him, does he really think he's wrong?
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No.
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Do you think Masterclass is gonna hire him to do seminars now?
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God, I hope not. Stranger things. Stranger things have happened. You know, that's the reality of this. Stranger things have happened. And you just don't know the fact that we're even sitting here that he's. He didn't get charged on some of these or didn't get guilty on some of these. Things is kind of nuts, you know.
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If he wanted to keep his name in his class, if he really wanted to do a good job of showing the redemption, the class should have been called how not to be Diddy. Oh, good one. I mean just, I mean I love as the brain's working live on this, I'm thinking, yeah, so if, if all he is is a complete self centered narcissistic ass that really abused women, sexually abused people, psychologically tormented and, and manip. And he's teaching a class on how to be him, is he really redeemed? Is he really hitting his bottom? I mean, no, he thinks the way he's rolling is absolutely fantastic and he's going to show everyone else how to do it too. And all the other narcissists around him in there saying oh yeah, bravo man, I want to do that now too because I sucked at the way I was doing. I want to do the way he was doing it. Friggin losers.
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And that's look, and that's what's scary to me about society because I think it's beyond an epidemic of narcissists that we have out there that will look at this and go well I'm gonna learn from him. Seems like a good one to learn from because they relate to it. Because they relate in some dark way that they can't necessarily speak out loud. And I'm not saying it's because they're out there necessarily doing the sort of exact things he was doing, but the narcissistic way of thinking, they attract one another and it's like it reaffirms the behavior, it reaffirms unhealthy ways of living and that's what they feed off of. And it is.
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C
And so funny because even with my own content, so here I am. I mean everyone knows me. I am the glass half full positivity, you know, how to forge trust, healthy strong relationships and how to recognize people that aren't, you know, that kind of content is, I know it is. I, I sell it, I propagate it, I write books about it. It does. Okay, but here's if I really want to be super successful like people in my same genre, if I just title something or did something or put something out there, how to minute how to manipulate the living out of someone, it was sell gangbusters because that's what people want. They don't say they want it, but that's exactly what they want. Never, never in a million years would I do something like that because. And but that's what they want. And that's what. So Diddy's selling under this nice guys how to be this good, great CEO and entrepreneur. But what you're really selling is how to be like me. Self centered narcissist is going to manipulate the fuck out of everyone. Look at me. First time you got me say that on the air.
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B
I almost feel like we need to give an award.
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A
Yes.
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C
Wow. I was very choosy, but I don't, you know, I'm not that guy that does that. But now I'm branded forever now.
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A
All right, hey, choosy moms choose Jeff And I just want to say just one real quick comment and then we can move on. I think as a society, we are so drawn by celebrity. And you look around us and you look at all the people in power that have celebrity in the world, in our country, all that kind of stuff, that's what we're drawn to as a society, which I think is very sad. But that's why I think that he will come out of this okay in the long run. He's gonna walk out of this thing. It's not gonna be a dark cloud over his head. We've seen it with other artists. We talked about Chris Brown a little bit yesterday and what he did and where he's at now. We're so drawn to celebrity. You could almost get away with doing what he did. And maybe he kind of is, to be honest with you.
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B
Yeah, I think that's a really good point.
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C
Yeah. Because here's what he's actually selling. You know, I get on. I don't get on anyone. I take note when people use word modifiers before things like ethical leadership. You know, I hear the word ethical leadership and I just think to myself, oh, you actually are just double downing. Leadership is about others.
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A
Isn't that supposed to be.
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C
Yeah, exactly. And then they say, and so you know what, what he's actually doing, he's trying to sell because people, people can rationalize himself. Oh, it's actually okay. I'm learning from Diddy. Ethical manipulation. What? No, it's not. It's just crapping garbage. So if you want to learn how to be a loser, just take his class. I think that's a good idea.
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A
There's more. Here we are watching the video or the. We're listening to the apology of Diddy. This has been not the real voice of Diddy. This is the AI vers of Diddy. But we wanted to try and create and make it, I guess, you know, as authentic as it could be. I thought it would sound better coming from the sound of Diddy versus me reading it aloud. And there's more in this. Let's continue. This is a letter that Diddy has sent to Judge Submarine prior to his sentencing. Basically, you know, it's an ask for grace letter. Let's continue.
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D
Lost in my journey, lost in the drugs and the excess, my downfall was rooted in my selfishness. I have been humbled and broken to my core. Jail is designed to break you mentally, physically and spiritually. Over the past year, there have been so many times that I wanted to give up. There have been some days I thought I would be better off dead. The old me died in jail and a new version of me was reborn. Prison would change you or kill you. I choose to live every day since my incarceration. As difficult as my circumstances currently are, I have made the best of my time by reading books, writing, working out or in therapy. Obtaining the tools and knowledge to deal with my past drug abuse and anger issues. I have been putting in the work and working diligently to become the best version of myself to ensure that I never make the same mistakes again. I realize that I am in a situation where no amount of money, power or fame can save me. Only God can save me. My grandmother used to teach me that God makes no mistakes and that everything he does is for your good. I believe that a bad situation can be used for good. Although this situation has been the hardest and darkest time in my life, good things have come out of my incarceration. For starters, I am now sober for the first time in 25 years. I have been trying my best to deal with my drug abuse and anger issues and take accountability as well as positive steps towards healing. One of the most beautiful things I have experienced is being asked by my fellow inmates to teach and mentor. They wanted to learn what I did to become a successful businessman. I was inspired by their hunger and desire to learn information in order to not only set goals, but achieve any goal or dream that their heart Heart's desire. I started teaching a six week program called Free Game. Title given by my fellow inmates which I was able to have approved and sanctioned by the Bureau of Prisons. Bop. I don't just teach about my success, I also teach about my mistakes and failures. It has truly been a blessing to do something positive in a negative situation. It has been beautiful to see the newfound hope in my fellow inmates eyes. The most shocking thing was to see the unity and the peace this class has produced. As you are probably aware, jails and prisons are segregated places. However, in our class we have black, Spanish, white and Asian all together in one room, learning and working together. We even have an interpreter for the Spanish speaking inmates. The biggest miracle that I've seen with this class is all of the gangs such as Bloods, Crips, Mississippi, 13 Trinitarios and 18 streets in one room working together. I am also proud to say that since this class started, there have been no fights in our unit. This class has also helped me in my time of need and despair. Being able to do something good for others has also given me much needed hope. God blessed me with this opportunity. Opportunity to help others. And I will continue to do so. I ask you for mercy today. Not only for my sake, but for the sake of my children. God bless me with seven beautiful children, three sons and four daughters. Their names are Quincy, Justin, Christian, Chance, Jesse, Delia and the newest addition, a two year old daughter, Love. Four of my children lost their mother, Kim Porter, as she tragically passed away in 2018. I am their only parent. I have failed my children as a father. My father was murdered when I was three years old. So I know firsthand what it is to not have a father. More than anything, I just want the opportunity to return home and be the father that they need and deserve. God also blessed me with the greatest mother in the world. My mother sacrificed her life and dreams to provide for me and my younger sister Keisha. She worked three jobs to make sure we had a roof over our heads, clothes on our backs and the best education. My mother is now 84 years old and she recently had brain surgery. Despite her own health challenges, she attended my trial every day. I have always been her primary caregiver. It breaks my heart that I put myself in this situation and for the first time I am unable to to be therefore my mother when she needs me most. As I write you this letter, I am scared to death. Scared to spend another second away from my mother and my children. I no longer care about the money or the fame. There is nothing more important to me than my family. I understand that one factor the court has to consider is deterrence. Deterrence for me and for others. To ensure that no one follows in my footsteps and makes the same mistakes.
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A
Let's pause for a second there I.
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D
Have been locked in one room.
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B
I have thoughts.
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A
I just want to say before you get to your thoughts, brilliance on using the classical music, Tony and also I know the font has something to do with video game that you use, but it's also the price Is right. So I am.
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C
I'm.
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A
I'm totally getting into this today. And also this Price is Right. Yeah, I didn't even. I grabbed it. I literally made it like 11:30 last night. When I saw the letter come out, I'm like. My mind was spinning. I'm like, what can we create for the show? And I was thinking, well, we could turn this into like a rap song. And I'm like, I don't wanna stay up till three. So this is what you got. You got the classical music and Diddy reading it. And then I thought, the irony is we're gonna have to show the horrible things he did. So it's all in full context. Cause I think if you're gonna make. Okay, well, let's see what you're apologizing for in real time. So we don't forget. Never forget exactly what's going on. I want to say this because I want. Stacey, I want to hear your thoughts, but I want to say this because the thought I had earlier and it completely kept alluding me, but it remembered it, you know, I said, you know, no, no redemption. Here's the one way. If he was in some sort of horrific accident and completely lost all memory and consciousness of who he was, and it was like literally a total reset, like, that's it. That's like, just like when that happens, like, you don't know your name, you don't remember anything about your past. Like, literally, you're relearning life. That's the only way I could see it being some sort of reset. But even then, I'd question genetics a bit too, of how much that plays a role in his decision making that's beyond his control. Where they even. Even the reset wouldn't work. It's pre programmed. That's it. That's the one scenario. Okay, Stacy.
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B
All right. So, Tony, much to your dismay, I tend to go back to my personal experiences, but Diddy brought up his mother. And I was just in a position probably 2 1/2 months ago where I confronted somebody who did some really shitty, horrible things. And I said, what would your mother think if she saw this? And I'm sure she saw it from heaven. And the look was just like.
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A
That'S what you said. I'm sure she saw it.
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C
Yes.
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A
That's great.
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B
And for those of you who followed along in my story, you know what I'm talking about.
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A
So.
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B
Yeah, you're damn right didn't think of that.
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A
You know, was he surprised by the comment or was he, like, actually feeling it, like, oh, I didn't think, like, she is. She might be watching.
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B
I. I don't know. I. I don't know where it came from because it. It was going on for a year and a half, two years, and. And mom died a year ago, so, you know, she was around for some of it. She was up there for some of it. So she saw some of it.
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A
Feel like somebody's watching me.
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C
Yeah.
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B
I wanted to throw that out there so maybe the next time things wouldn't work so well because, like, mom's watching, you know, but. Yeah, I. I want Diddy's mom to. To sit and watch this video of the hallway. Yeah. She needs to see this.
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A
If she hasn't, she must be so proud.
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C
So they're all, you know, we saw her. I'm not impressed. So I'm listening to this. It's, you know, I love. We made all the comments before we listened to and heard the second half because they're all still spot on. Right. Accurate. The only thing that I'll add to it is he's doing a really good job. I think his lawyer did a really good job. I don't think he wrote this of. Of using every single lever of influence he possibly could. So we heard the beginning, a little bit of remorse for beating people. Then we have a little bit of remorse for this. And now we're using another liver influence called sympathy. Sympathy is a great lever of influence on people. Now be sympathetic. Don't take me away from my kids. I'm the only person to have. Don't take me away from my mother. She's all that I. The all. She's all.
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A
No, I'm all that she has.
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C
Right, right, right. So, you know, so for the benefit of society at large, you need to release me because I am such a good influence on my kids and my mother. Great.
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A
There's no way living hell.
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B
Can you imagine the judge sitting there just going really, really seriously?
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C
Maybe. So that's what, you know, before I started to really dive into true crime and us covering such. Such really bad, bad systems of justice, I would say, yeah. Never in a million years would a judge buy off on any of this. But you never know these days, man. You know, when you see a prosecution do such a poor job in this case, I don't put it past anyone.
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A
Well, here's what the judge has said so far.
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C
Perfect lamp for you.
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A
The judge says Combs defense narrative is flatly inconsistent with both reality and his accepting responsibility.
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C
Good, good.
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B
There you go.
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A
So that's how the Letter's landing as of right now. The full quote is in general, the narrative that he and his attorneys have put forth that this case involves nothing more than adults paying for time, not sex is flatly inconsistent with both reality and his accepting responsibility. The judge. Yeah. Does not seem to be taking this lightly. And. Good.
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C
Yeah, I can think about this too. So we're going back to that letter. What's every, what's the only things he's covering in the letter? The things he actually. You saw videos for. He didn't call to talk about all the, the accusing stuff and all the, what people are saying about baby oil, about lacing baby oil, about trafficking children. He didn't cover any of that stuff in there because he only covered stuff that people saw video for. They got caught. Anything. Right. Exactly. I don't believe a line. I'm glad the judge said that. Good.
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A
Well, the, the, the prosecutor saying today is about accountability and justice. Accountability for the defendant who committed serious federal crimes repeatedly over the course of 15 years and justice for the public, including for the victims whose lives have been shattered by the defendant's acts of abuse and exploitation. This isn't just a case about freak offs or hotel nights, she continued. It's a case with real victims who have suffered real harm at the hands of the defendant. It's about a man who did horrible things to other people to satisfy his own sexual gratification.
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B
There it is.
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C
And here's another thing too, I think.
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A
And by the way, he has a speaking engagement book next week. Combs does continue on.
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C
Yeah. Freaking hell. So, and here's another tragedy if, if they don't throw everything they can at him. And that's because think about the amazing. Because as you're reading that, Tony, I'm thinking about, you know, all these, all these young kids and upcoming amazing artists that thought this is the way that I have to do it to be successful. When this comes to light, how many great artists that are, that would otherwise be these amazing people in the world say, you know what? Screw that, I'm not getting into this world. I mean, just think about the, just related to politics too. You see all the horrendous garbage that they're doing in politics right now, you know, so these great leaders that could really change the world in court of, of everything are saying, that's not for me, man. Because these people are nuts. And so if they don't do something about guys like Diddy, and in Diddy's case in particular, what, what amazing talent will we miss out on? Because Parents won't let their kids get into this. I wouldn't want my kids to get into this. I'm still. See what I mean. I said the effect. If you don't do justice here, like is saying in the. What the prosecutor's saying, you know, we could really be missing out on a lot. So I really hope it sends a powerful message that, hey, we can right the wrong of this industry so we can be benefited by these amazing people that do have this great talent because they do make the world a better place when they share it.
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A
Well, all these people that are coming out saying, you know, don't let him out. I fear for my safety.
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B
I mean, that's a problem.
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A
That's a problem. There's all these human beings that now feel this way, and it doesn't matter that Sean wrote a letter and says, oh, I'm sorry. You know, God did this for me, and I started a class, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Great. Now these people are fearful for their safety and their lives because of his previous pattern of behavior that really doesn't seem to be stopping here. This letter, if anything, just confirms the narcissism continues on. I get nothing out of this letter that makes me feel like, okay, he's grounded in reality. It's saying what he knows people want to hear.
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B
I brought this up with Eric Faddis. Was it yesterday? The days are all blurring together for me.
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A
I think so. Yeah.
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B
But the people who are outside who have dealt with him, who are concerned that he's gonna get out, they're freaking terrified right now. They are terrified. They are living under this umbrella of terror. And what happens if he gets out? Are they going to be protected from him? And even with him in prison, he has such a wide net of people around him that these people may be in harm's way regardless if he's in prison or not.
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C
Yeah, I agree.
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A
I mean, like, yeah, there's just so much. There's a little bit more to the letter. Let's listen to the last piece of Diddy's apology. You know, plea for leniency, letter to.
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D
The judge with 25 other incarcerated people sharing the same one room. In this room that I share, there are no windows. There is no natural clean air. There is no sunlight. And we all live in one room. We eat, sleep, use the toilet, take showers, and prepare meals all in the same room. The conditions that my actions have placed me in are inhumane. I don't tell you this for pity or sympathy. I'm simply sharing my truth. And the truth of my fellow incarcerated people. We have no clean drinking water and we boil our drinking water. We all share one washing machine which is broken. I am surrounded by drugs and live every day with the constant threat of being stabbed or losing my life again. I'm not expecting pity or sympathy, but my time at MDC has changed me forever. Prior to being in jail, I took care of and was present for my family Being in jail and because of my conduct, I lost the ability to care for my mother. I lost the ability to effectively raise and support my children. I have missed my three daughters, proms and graduations. I have missed taking one of my daughters to college. I have lost the freedom to teach my 2 year old how to speak, dance, play or be there to console her when she falls down or has a nightmare. I started from nothing and worked hard to earn everything I had. But because of my conduct, I have lost all of my businesses. I have lost my career, I lost the charter schools that I started and I have destroyed my reputation and stained the reputation of those that worked for me. I lost my being present with my family between of all of my losses and lessons. I can state for a fact that I will never be in another criminal courtroom again. And I do not believe any other person would do anything similar from fear of similar punishment. If you give me a chance, I would like the opportunity to share my story with people too. Prevent at least one person from making the mistakes that I've made. I can't change the past, but I can change the future. I know that God put me here to transform me. Since incarceration, I have gone through spiritual reset. I'm on a journey that will take time and hard work. I'm proud to say I'm working harder than I ever have before. I'm committed to the journey of remaining a drug free, non violent and peaceful person. I thank God that I'm stronger, wiser, clean, clear and sober. God makes no mistakes. I realize that this trial has received a tremendous amount of global press and your honor may be inclined to make an example out of me. I would ask your honor to make me an example of what a person can do if afforded a second chance. If you allow me to go home to my family, I promise I will not let you down and I will make you proud. Today I humbly ask you for another chance. Another chance to be a better father, another chance to be a better son, another chance to be a better leader in my community and another chance to live a better life. I am writing this not to gain any sympathy or pity. This experience is simply the truth of my existence and has changed my life forever, and I will never commit a crime again. Thank you for your time and consideration, Sean Combs.
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B
Nope.
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A
Nope.
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B
Nope.
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A
It must be true. If he says it, it must be true.
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B
Nope.
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C
Nope.
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A
Did any of those things ever really matter to him, though? The charter schools, the laundry list of things he listed off? Or were they all just a means to. To feed his narcissistic urges to control people and places and everything around him? Was there truly good behind any of that, I guess, is the question. Or was it all the ruse? Was it all the curtain for the public to see? Look how great he is. Look what a wonderful philanthropist he is. He does this, he does that, and it's nothing off of his back. He's got enough money to rule a fricking country. So, yes, the public thinks that, but behind the curtain, it's, you know, freak off land.
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C
Yeah, I looked it up because, you know, it's what I do. The first thing he ever did when he started like that charter school and stuff, the first reviews that came in on it were decent, but it fell off pretty rapidly after that because what happened was he started. He. He would set it up, he showed up, and then he just kept handing stuff off. So everything he did from that point on was just all about image management. Just like this. I mean, if anyone's ever wondering how to. How to put into practice Persuasion, Influence from Robert Chaldean's book Influence, this is what it is. And everything out of here is textbook influence. And. And persuasion intended to. For an effect of sympathy. And, I mean, how many times are you going to throw down family? How many is going to do this? You know, but he never did it before in life. And. And Stacy, to your point, I saw you do the same thing too, about surrounded by drugs in jail. Yep. See, I told you. No, I watch a lot on TikTok. A lot of apparently.
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B
Yeah.
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A
My question is what? They have access to boil their own water.
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B
That's frightening.
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C
So they do have depends on the facility. They have their own small kitchen spaces that if you get stuff from the commissary, you can actually prepare or have your own food. They're allowed to bring very, very limited things back from the mess halls. They can't bring fruit or anything like that back because actually people will make jail room hooch.
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A
Yeah.
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C
From fermenting it. So there's a lot of stuff that they're not allowed to have that's contraband. But again, you pay the people off, you can get contraband in because obviously there's drugs there.
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A
So I would do the boiling. The water was like, well, wouldn't that be a weapon?
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B
It sounds like a weapon.
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C
Yeah. Yeah, we'll see. I've never heard of boiling water, but.
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A
You know, that's what I'm wondering, like, are they act like you, you have access to boiling water, like you. That would be, that would be a pretty powerful weapon.
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C
Yeah, yeah.
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A
Just to throw that at somebody. I.
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B
That's why he's got special privileges, because he's diddy.
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C
So I'm saying I don't believe anything that he says.
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A
Yeah, I mean, I guess that might just be the answer is like, it's just.
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C
Or I saw it once or heard about it once and it becomes, I mean, that, that's, that's what we do in life when so very rarely do people actually lie. Lie, like complete fabrication. What typically people do is they, they do massive exaggerations and they fill in gaps with, with stories that they'll believe. And, and we were talking about this earlier. I think he totally believes that he's empathetic because he redefines what empathy is. Empathy is where I give money to someone that is actually different than what actually empathy is. But that's what he's defining it as. And so I, I think he's just one of those people that's redefined life according to his own dictionary.
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B
Well, and he's not talking about the, the victims as much as I, I need him to. He's talking about himself. That's it.
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C
That's it.
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A
The victims were that first three minute block, Stacy. Was that not enough for you?
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B
Apparently not. I am so needy.
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C
True victims are his kids and his mother. You know, they're the ones that really suffered without him. His poor daughters that had to go to prom without him. Oh, I'm like, good, maybe we can save some other kids by keeping him the hell away from him.
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A
It's the last. Exactly. It's the last few people in his orbit that like, will give him the time of day is probably really what it is. What kind of person would believe this letter? I mean, what's the profile of an individual who hears this thing and goes, damn, he's telling the truth.
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C
Someone who wants you to. It really comes down to that. It's someone who wants to. And there's always people that want to, and there's always people that are conspiracy theory people. I mean, how many times? It doesn't matter how solid a case Is, doesn't matter how solid. Evidence and data, you know, ranks up against people. There's people that are never going to believe it. I've had people reach out to me after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, said that that shooter that shot him, you know, that, that, that assassin, that 21, 20 year old kid. Oh no, it's not him. It's a frame. And I'm. What, what? Everything. I've never seen anything more solid in recent years where someone. It was him. I mean, it's his DNA, it's his rifle, it's his grandfather's rifle. The parents turned him in.
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A
Volunteers on camera.
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C
Yeah. Oh, it's not him, man. I'm like, see what I mean? So if you don't want to believe something, it's amazing the stories our brains will make up. And so there will be people that believe this, there are people that thinks he shouldn't even had to set it because he's completely innocent anyway.
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A
Yeah, no, no, you're right. I mean, and, and I guess then what is the driver of wanting to believe it?
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C
Oh, because, because to not believe. So if you invested a lot of time and energy into Diddy, his music, his lifestyle, wanting to be like Diddy, I mean, think about this. There's a lot of people, I don't know how recently, but you know, when he's in his heyday and it goes with anyone, if you, if you are so vested in trying to be like someone and to follow in those footsteps and be successful and have money and have influence, we'll say it. Influence and not power and manipulation and have all these skills that you coveted in him, then you're going to want to continue to believe that. Because to invalidate what your whole ideal was for where you want to go in life would be invalidating your self identity. We as human beings do not like to do that. Because as much as he'd have to reinvent himself in order to be on that path of redemption, those that follow him and think that that's the way to go would have to do the same thing to their own identity.
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D
Yeah.
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C
And so, and that's why he's got people signing up for his class in prison. It's not because, you know, they found him to be a Mother Teresa in there. Like all of a sudden we're going to reform our lives. They're like, all right, I kind of screwed it up my way. He seemed to have it all figured out. Let's follow him for a while. Unless he doesn't get off. I mean, so It'll be really interesting.
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A
It's gonna be fascinating to see the, the next chapter because, I mean, at some point he is going to get out. You know, if he survives, which I don't. Oh, yeah, he's not going to. To. But it's. Yeah, there's. There's going to be another chapter. It's going to be. I feel like it's going to be a train wreck in some way, shape or form. It's just. How bad of a train wreck is it going to be and how many people are going to be damaged by it? That's. That's the question.
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C
He's not spiritual enough for me for reform yet. You know, I mean, you have the Malcolm X's that go into prison and come out a completely different human being because that they have, they have, they had a firm message of social reform. And so think about that too. Do the people we see that have gone into prison that come out different are the ones that actually when had a message of trying to be social justice warriors and then they had these aha moments of figuring out, wow, that wasn't the way to do it. And, and so they have this, this spiritual awakening inside. And then it's years and years of figuring out how to manifest that into a better way to communicate that for social justice. Diddy is not a social justice warrior. He's a warrior for himself. And so there's a big difference. And so he's trying to align himself as a social justice warrior framework of this reformation. But really he's in there because he was all about him, not because he was doing violence for the sake of social justice and rationalizing, as we've seen these other cases. No, he went in there because he was completely serving himself and no one else.
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B
Yeah, he's just sorry he got caught.
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C
Yep.
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B
Yeah, words I've used repeatedly in the last year. Yeah, you're just sorry you got caught. You're not sorry for your actions, Stacy.
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A
And that letter is just a very narcissistic way of trying to spin it and put a little icing on it and make everybody go, mm, ain't this delicious? Not gonna happen. Robin Drake, retired FBI special agent, former chief of the counterintelligence Behavioral analysis Program. As always, thank you so much for joining us. And Monday we will be talking more about. Unless something blows up over the weekend, and I hope that to God I want. I will be talking about the judge and the sheriff, Mickey Steins and some new revelations there, which is kind of fascinating from some new reporting from Brian enten of News Nation, but Brian and he's just Robin, thank you so much.
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C
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