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There was a time when a school shooting, oh my gosh, it was national news. They were seemingly rare. Well, not so much anymore. And one more point before we get into it. Hey everybody, I want to start with a question and I want you to tell me your answer in the comments below because I really want to hear what you have to say. A child brings a gun to school, opens fire, students and teachers are killed. Simple question. Is whoever is raising that child, be it parents or grandparents, also responsible for murder, should they go to jail? And like I say, let me know your comments right now down below. Let me start off your critical thinking just a little bit here. Your thinking is like, look, if I'm raising a child and it's going to be a boy, they're going to be between 15 and 19. You're thinking, well, I wasn't there and I didn't pull the trigger, so of course not. But there's more to it. So answer the question and then I'm going to talk about it some and then maybe you answer the question again. This is not a hypothetical anymore. It used to be, but it's not anymore. This is exactly what happened. Last month, the father of a teenager in Georgia was sentenced to 15 years in prison. Colin Gray is the first parent of a school shooter convicted of murder. Now his son is already serving life in prison, but now the father is going to prison for 15 years for second degree murder and involuntary manslaughter. You may also remember the Oxford High School shooting up in Michigan. The parents of that shooter are also serving 10 to 15 years, but they were discharged with manslaughter. This is the first murder conviction of a parent, Colin Gray. His crime, giving his son a gun and doing nothing as he watched his son's mental health deteriorate. Before you tune out here and say, look, my family doesn't own guns or my child could never do such a thing, or they're grown up and no longer in school, hear me out. The real story is this needs to be a wake up call for every adult in a community and I'm going to tell you why. We, not the authorities, are the eyes and ears. We need to be deputized. Whether we live next door to somebody that has a young person that is giving off warning signs, whether we Work in the school system. Whether we just come across these people or not. Maybe we're a parent or grandparent that's raising a child, whatever. We need to be aware that we are the eyes and ears of society. Every school shooter, not some of them, all of them give warning signs. They have red flags that are seeable, knowable, and certainly if you are a parent or grandparent raising a young person, you know that child better than anyone. Now, before we're done, I'm going to go through a lot of those signs and I'm going to want you to write them down because it may not be your child, as I said, it may be somebody that works at a grocery store where you go. It may be a classmate of your child or grandchild or niece or nephew or someone you know. And one more point before we get into it. There was a time when a school shooting. Oh, my gosh. It was national news, right? It dominated the headlines. Good evening. It's happened again. A mass shooting at an American school. This time a high school in suburban Denver. They were a parent's worst nightmare. And this time, gunfire aimed at elementary school children. It was just unthinkable and it would paralyze our community. Well, not so much anymore. Now it takes an absolute massacre. There have to be dozens of people killed to get any significant coverage whatsoever. We'll be right back. You know what they say? If I knew then what I know now. Just last year when I partnered with Preserve Gold, gold wasn't even trading near $3,000 an ounce. Today, some experts are predicting that gold could reach $6,000 an ounce. But that's why I encourage you to get informed. Text Ask Phil to 50505 or visit drphilgold.com and request your free gold buying guide from Preserve Gold. It's just become so frequent that we're just. We're numb to it. We just scan right by it. If we're on the Internet, it may not even get mentioned on a national newscast. Kids killing kids just isn't big news anymore. What does that say about our society? It depends on how you define a school shooting. But by one definition, there have been at least 31 school shootings in the United States this year as of July. Think about that. 10 on college campuses, 21 in K through 12. Kids are dying and kids are committing murder. And the worst part, the warning signs are always there. Like I said. And if we pay attention to these warning signs, we can stop this. I'm not saying we can stop them all, but we can certainly slow this progression. Let's talk about the case in Georgia. September 4, 2024, Apalachee High School. Is that him in the door? There it is. Colt Gray, 14, opens fire, kills two students and two teachers. The students killed, they were both 14 year old. 14 year old students. The shooter, Colt Gray, pled guilty to 55 counts. Sentenced to life in prison without parole. So in addition to the four people killed, his life is also ruined. The shooter's life is also ruined. What would have happened, I wonder, if somebody had noticed the warning signs. And. Well, we're going to get to it in a minute. They were not subtle. You didn't need to be Sigmund Freud to pick these up. His father, Colin Gray, now convicted of second degree murder and involuntary manslaughter, reckless conduct and cruelty to children. Sentenced to 15 years not for pulling the trigger, but for what he didn't do beforehand. Let me give you some of the judge's language. The warning lights were flashing brighter and brighter, and you didn't get him help and you didn't remove his access to the guns. Colt Gray, he had built a shrine in his bedroom to the Parkland School shooter. Photos, news clippings. Okay? Now you have a kid here that obviously is not doing well in the world. Okay? He's not fitting in, doesn't have a lot of friends, isn't laughing a lot, isn't going and participating in the world. Instead, he's in his room building a shrine to a mass murderer that killed 17 people. There's a clue. There's a clue that, you know what, I might need to be paying attention here and perhaps getting this child some help. I might want to alert the school counselors. And people always say, well, you can't do. You can't arrest them or do anything until they've done something. No, that's correct. You're right. But you can intervene. You can get help. You can sit down and talk to them. You can say, hey, let's talk. That might be something to do. He's named after a gun. But I don't want to become Sigmund Freud. Sheriff, Deputies had already come to the family's home once an online threat traced back to their address. Okay, there's another warning sign. So he's got a shrine in his room to a mass murderer having killed 17 people. And you've had the sheriff come to your door. I need to talk to you about an online threat that was traced back to this address. His behavior is getting worse. Violent outbursts, anxiety, driven meltdowns. Telling relatives he's hearing voices in his head. Did anybody ask about the voices? What were they saying? Oftentimes auditory delusions. They're commanding you to do something. That's one of the most frequent things people hear in their heads. What are they commanding him to do? Well, let's see. We got a shrine in his bedroom. Police are saying there are violent posts coming out of this house, and he's hearing voices in his head. Could those three things be connected? I don't know, but seems to me Lassie could figure out that this might have something to do with one another. His home life, well, it's in a free fall. Repeated moves, changing schools. His mother has addiction struggles, constant conflict between his parents. And by the way, when you look at the profile of school shooters, every one of those things is on the list. Every one of those things is common among those who turn out to be school shooters. Now, they're also common among those who don't become school shooters. There are young people who have those commonalities that don't become school shooters, but they're present among all those who do become school shooters. Now, that's important. I'll talk about that in a minute. He missed his entire eighth grade year and was frequently absent from school. Now, his parents looked into treatment options. I'll give them that. They looked into them, but they never followed through. So I don't give them that. Instead of getting him real psychiatric care, they put him on antidepressants that were prescribed to his mother, not him. They gave him somebody else's antidepressants. Now, let me tell you, before you put people on psychoactive medications, antidepressants, antianxiety meds, antipsychotics, you need to see a doctor. They need to do a DNA test, they need to get labs. They need to figure out what prescription matches the biochemistry of that individual. You don't just get some that were given for somebody else, prescribed for somebody else, and give them to that person. Are you kidding me? That's ridiculous. And on top of all of that, his father gave him. Wait for it. An AR15 style rifle as a Christmas gift and kept buying him ammunition. Now, come on. So for all of you who were thinking, well, no, I wasn't there. I didn't pull the trigger. Well, did you buy him an AR15 style rifle as a Christmas gift when you know, he had a shrine to a mass murderer in his bedroom that he was sending violent messages out? Negligence is failing to do what a reasonable person would do in the same or Similar circumstances. Gross negligence is failing to do what a reasonable person would do in the same or similar circumstances to the extent that it is so negligent as to become tantamount to intentionality, meaning that it's so off the mark, such a disregard for the potential impact as to be deemed intentional, that you intended for the outcome to happen. After the shooting, before Colt was ever arrested, police showed up at the family's front door. Before they ever said a word, his dad responded. I knew it. I knew it. Yeah, I would think you would. We'll be right back. I've been saying for years, the most expensive thing you can do is nothing. And when it comes to Medicare, nothing is exactly what most people do every single year. Luckily, doing something is easier than ever with Chapter. They're independent Medicare advisors and they compare every Medicare plan in the country. If you're already in the right spot, they'll tell you. And if you're not, folks who switched with Chapter saved an average of $1,100 last year. That's what something is worth. Stop paying for nothing. Talk to Chapter. He knew. That's not hindsight. That's a father who saw this coming, bought him a gun anyway, and didn't alert a damn soul. In this case, the warning signs were extreme. This wasn't subtle. You didn't need to be Sigmund Freud. And I'm not suggesting every parent of a teen shooter is as responsible as Colin Gray. But if your child is planning something sinister, if they've got an arsenal under their bed, it's your job to know. If it's the kid that lives next door and they're doing weird things, you're not responsible for what that child does. But as a member of society, you might want to say something to the parents. You might want to send up a flare. School shooters almost always give warning signs. 67% of school shooters tell at least two people what they're going to do and when they're going to do it. And about half the time, one of those people is law enforcement. In 90% of the cases, they tell at least one person what they're going to do. How is that possible, Dr. Phil? How is it possible that they tell people what they're going to do and nobody does anything about it? Well, like I say, we've become callous, unreactive. We don't take it seriously. It's like tornado warnings down here in Texas. They go off so often. People sometimes just think, oh, it's just another tornado warning. Until one actually hits. People don't take them serious if they happen so often. As a parent, as a grandparent, as whoever the guardian is that's raising the child. You are the first line of defense. We've got over 50 million kids in public school. They know if there's somebody that's really spinning out, really melting down. They know after almost every school shooting, when you start talking to the student body, they will tell you, yeah, I'm not surprised that it was him. But they don't know what to do. They don't know where to go. They don't know how to report it. I said that there was a shrine in this young man's bedroom. They almost always study those that came before them. They'll study violent content for hours alone. They usually have a grievance that never got resolved. And they have access to a weapon. They either get it at home or they steal it from a friend's house. But in either case, the weapons are not locked up. We could solve so many of these things. We could avoid so many of these things just by locking up the guns so young people couldn't get to them. They cannot shoot their classmates with a weapon they don't have. Lock up the gun. You can get a gun lock at Target, Kmart, Walmart, anywhere for a couple of bucks. These aren't secrets. We know so much more about school shooters than we're using. It's ridiculous. Look, I've spent years studying. Is there a profile of the shooter? Can we identify who's going to pull that trigger? And the answer is no. What we have to look at are extenuating circumstances around a given shooter at a time. And these are preventable. I have taken like 10, 12 school shooters and profiled them all, and the overlap was like 88, 90%. And we've known it for years. The question was, never could we have seen this coming. The signs are almost always there. We just don't react to them. Parents take notes. And I'm going to put these in the show notes so you can see the list there. Now, am I saying we can predict a school shooting before it occurs? No, we can't. Because there are students who have the same characteristics as a school shooter who never become a shooter. But we can identify the path that school shooters go down. And if you intervene, it's so possible to stop these things before they happen. If you see these warning signs and you act instead of failing to act, then that child could still be alive. Because many of these are violent suicides. They intend to die. They don't intend to get out alive. So often they are violent suicides. Look, a weapon in the house is a family safety decision. If that's what you want to do, do it. But lock it up. And lock it up separate from the ammunition, which you also lock up. Make it difficult for that gun to be possessed by the young person. He's never been in trouble. It's not the same as he's okay. Many a truth is spoken jest if you're hearing things like, ah, go shoot that place up. No, no, no. Take that seriously. A sudden obsession with violence or other attackers means something and you need to get it through your child's head that telling ain't tattling. It is an act of compassion. If they're concerned that one of their classmates is going to twist off, saying something anonymously to a school counselor is not getting that person in trouble. It's getting them help they may desperately need. It could be saving the lives of students and that shooter before they become a shooter. They aren't monsters until they pull the trigger. Until they pull the trigger, they're a young person in pain that will thank you for the help. And that's the real story.
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In this gripping and urgent episode, Dr. Phil McGraw delves deep into the disturbing reality of school shootings in the United States, emphasizing the crucial role of parents, guardians, and communities in recognizing and responding to warning signs before tragedy strikes. Using recent real-life cases, Dr. Phil explores the legal and moral responsibilities of caregivers and urges listeners to be proactive, vigilant, and compassionate in preventing future horrors. The episode provides not only insight into the behavior and circumstances that often precede school shootings but also practical advice for intervention and societal responsibility.
Dr. Phil opens with a stark observation about how school shootings have become alarmingly frequent, losing their shock value in the media (00:16–03:00).
Quote: "There was a time when a school shooting, oh my gosh, it was national news. They were seemingly rare. Well, not so much anymore." (00:16)
He challenges listeners to reflect on responsibility:
Quote: "Is whoever is raising that child, be it parents or grandparents, also responsible for murder, should they go to jail?" (00:35)
Dr. Phil explains that
"Kids killing kids just isn't big news anymore. What does that say about our society?" (03:00)
and cites recent statistics: as of July, there had been at least 31 school shootings in the U.S. in 2026 – 10 on college campuses, 21 in K-12 schools (03:40).
The episode highlights a headline case:
Details of Colin Gray’s negligence:
Dr. Phil relays the judge's words:
“The warning lights were flashing brighter and brighter, and you didn’t get him help and you didn’t remove his access to the guns.” (06:45)
On the father’s reaction when police arrived after the shooting:
Before they ever said a word, his dad responded, ‘I knew it. I knew it.’ (13:45)
Every school shooter gives warning signs, Dr. Phil asserts:
Quote: “Every school shooter, not some of them, all of them give warning signs. They have red flags that are seeable, knowable…” (02:30)
On how often shooters confide their plans:
"67% of school shooters tell at least two people what they're going to do and when... and in 90% of the cases they tell at least one person what they're going to do." (15:30)
The challenge: People either don't take it seriously or don't know how to report.
Dr. Phil cautions against a single profile but details common factors (17:30–18:50):
Quote: “I have taken like 10, 12 school shooters and profiled them all, and the overlap was like 88, 90%. And we've known it for years.” (17:55)
Importantly, these characteristics are also present in non-shooters, so intervention (not prediction) is the key.
Dr. Phil maintains that parents/guardians are the first and most critical line of defense (11:40–15:00).
Practical advice:
Lock up guns and ammunition separately and securely.
"We could avoid so many of these things just by locking up the guns so young people couldn't get to them." (16:45)
If students hear or see something, encourage them to report:
"You need to get it through your child's head that telling ain't tattling. It is an act of compassion." (19:25)
Reporting doesn't mean getting someone in trouble; it may be saving their life, as many school shootings are violent suicides (18:30–19:40).
Warning signs are not just subtle behavioral changes:
"Many a truth is spoken in jest, if you're hearing things like, ‘ah, go shoot that place up’ – no, no, no. Take that seriously." (19:10)
Dr. Phil on Gross Negligence:
"Negligence is failing to do what a reasonable person would do in the same or similar circumstances... Gross negligence is so off the mark, such a disregard for the potential impact, as to be deemed intentional." (12:30)
On Mental Health Red Flags:
"He's got a shrine in his room to a mass murderer... and he's hearing voices in his head. Could those three things be connected? I don't know, but seems to me Lassie could figure out that this might have something to do with one another." (08:00)
On Societal Responsibility:
"We, not the authorities, are the eyes and ears. We need to be deputized." (01:40)
On Parental Accountability:
“If your child is planning something sinister, if they've got an arsenal under their bed, it’s your job to know.” (14:00)
Maintaining his direct, practical, and sometimes blunt tone, Dr. Phil issues a call to action:
"They aren't monsters until they pull the trigger... they're a young person in pain that will thank you for the help. And that's the real story." (19:45)
A must-listen for parents, educators, and all community members, this episode is a sobering reminder of the preventable tragedies that can be averted through awareness, intervention, and locked-up firearms.