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Coffee Chat with Miranda Galati: Weight Watchers, digestive health, Evlo, and more
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If you are loving what you're learning in the podcast and you want to start applying it to your fitness routine, you can try one of our free classes. No credit card required. Just drop your email to get access. This is a upper body build class taught by myself. To take the class, visit portal.evlofitness.com I'm Dr. Shannon Richie. I'm a doctor of physical therapy, fitness trainer, and founder of Evil Fitness. In the Dr. Shannon show, you'll learn applicable tools to improve your health based on science. Welcome to the show. Hi, everyone. We've got Miranda back. This is the third episode we're recording, and she is a registered dietitian. And what I want to do, Miranda, is you have had your registered dietitian as a second career. And so why did you get into this? What was your journey that led you into becoming. Because you were in marketing before. What was your role?
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So I was in marketing for one of the, like, big four accounting firms. So I was at Deloitte. No way. Yes. And, yeah, I. It's funny because there is arguably marketing in my current role now as a dietitian, working in, like, content and all that, but I was gonna say so different.
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There's crossover, for sure.
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B
Yes. Yeah.
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A
I came from the business world too, and I feel like it's helpful to have some. Some of that combined with the health education.
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B
Yeah.
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Content.
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B
Yeah, it was. It's really helpful background, and I'm very glad I don't do that anymore.
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Same, same, same. It's fun to be an entrepreneur, too.
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B
Yeah. Like, and stressful.
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A
It is, it is. It's like you get to use, like, all the different parts of your brain. Yes. Like, you use the analytical brain, use the creative brain. You use, like.
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B
Yeah, I agree. I do think it's so fun, but I also can recognize, like, it's not for everybody. I can totally understand that because it is stressful and you kind of. You never really get to turn off. I think that's the hardest part. And for some people, it. That's kind of a fun piece of it, and I love it. Yeah, me too. But it's also, like, I think I can see it being so stressful.
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Yeah. Because you. Because working at Deloitte, I mean, that's as structured as it gets.
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B
Oh, very. Yeah. Very structured. Yeah.
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A
Do you. Have you always been an entrepreneur or was Deloitte and was Deloitte, like, kind of clashing with some of your personality, or do you feel like you can do both?
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B
I. I don't know, because I. You Know, it's funny, like, not in my personal life, but in work, I'm very organized and structured and I, I did well in it, but I. I don't know, it kind of. I became an accidental entrepreneur because I started. Basically what happened is when I went back to school to become a dietitian, I started an Instagram account that kind of took off. And so that opened this opportunity for me to work, which wasn't the reason why I went back to school. And it just kind of happened. And then by the time I graduated and got my RD credential, I had that as an option and just kind of leaned into it. Yeah. Which has been very interesting.
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A
That worked out. What did you, what did you do in your Instagram that made you take off? I always love hearing these stories. And what, what year would that have been?
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B
That. Oh my gosh, man. In Canada, it's to become an rd. In the US I believe you can go back and if you have a previous degree, it's a bit of a shortcut. I had to go back for a full. Another undergrad.
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A
What?
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B
And a master's. It was crazy.
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A
So that's like eight more. How many?
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B
It was like a six year journey, so I got it a little bit condensed my undergrad because I had basically like some extracurricular credits to put towards it, but the foundation of the program, I had to do it all. So, yeah, it was like a six year journey. It was. Wow. Crazy.
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A
Wow, that is wild.
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B
Yes.
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A
And then what did you do you remember, like, what type of content you were doing that made your Instagram takeoff?
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B
My content was so different then because it was a lot more nutrition focused. And now I'm doing a bit more on the recipe side of things. And I don't really remember and I've never. My account has never been one to get like one big break and I exploded. It's been like a slow grind I felt over the years. So, yeah, there was nothing in particular. It just kind of climbed over time. And I feel really lucky though. Yeah.
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A
Do you follow Olivia Adrian's. She came on the podcast and we talked about this and she had. She's lives in Austin. You guys have really similar content. I feel like I. I should connect you to while you're in town. But she was saying how she had like no, like very small account and then she had three videos go viral at the same time and that's what blew her up. And now she's like over a million followers.
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B
A dream.
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A
I know. And I'm like, you Hear about those stories happening, and then there's. It's more like your experience and my experience as well. It's just like a slow burn.
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B
Earn. It's a slow burn. Yeah. Oh, I'm still open to exploding like that.
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And that's why, like.
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B
Yeah, exactly.
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I'm, like, still waiting for that one big break.
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B
But that's why I think Olivia is.
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A little bit of a different story, because her content is not salacious at all. But we were talking about how, like, your content. And I try to have my content be this way too. It's like, it's not clickbaity. It's just like. And it's not sexy information, you know, And a lot of times that doesn't go viral.
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B
Yeah, exactly.
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So it's just like the slow burn is what we have to be okay with.
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B
Yeah, exactly.
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A
So you became an rd. Do you have a personal story as to what got you into nutrition?
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B
Yeah, so I. It's funny because I didn't. My story was kind of twofold. A bit of weight loss stuff and a bit of digestive stuff that I didn't fully understand at the time. And I can understand more now as a dietitian, reflecting back on what was actually going on. So I'll kind of give the short story. So as a kid, I was like, a little chubby, I'll say, like a little bit bigger, very inactive, you know, taller than other kids, all that stuff. And I think that kind of set me up with foundation of, like, body insecurity and thinking about food a lot and kind of always having weight loss and, like, my body on my mind. So that's, like, where everything kind of started for me. But to be honest, like, it didn't. Reflecting back on it, I, I. It was like a challenging part of my life, but I don't view it as it. It didn't feel like it overtook my life, but it kind of just set me up in that way where it was something that I thought about.
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It wired your brain in a certain way.
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B
Yeah, wired my brain in a certain way. And so, you know, move. Moving forward, like past, past those years, you know, into university, I was still like, again, I think it was when at the time, how I felt was like, oh, I'm like the fat kid. That's how I felt. When I reflect back, I don't know if that was the reality of it. Perhaps I was a bit bigger than other people, but I was also just inactive, maybe just a little bit softer. But to me, that was like a core defining piece of who I was and it drove my behaviors around food. But it's funny reflecting back, you just to see it more objective. I'm like, really wasn't that.
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Yeah. In the moment, it. It's not always as. It's not always a real picture of what's happening.
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B
Right. Yeah. So, I mean, certainly I had improvement to do with my physical activity and maybe even some weight loss was appropriate, but I think it was a bigger. It was, it was a bigger problem in my head than it was in reality, I think, at the time. So I went to university and again, kind of over the years, always dabbling with weight loss a little bit. Nothing really stuck. I didn't really have tons of education. I was quite inactive. And then basically in university, I signed up for Weight Watchers and I lost a bunch of weight very quickly. And it's interesting because it kind of set me up for these two different journeys. So on the one hand, Weight Watchers, at least at the time, was quite a restrictive diet. They were set up with like a point system. So I don't actually know how many calories I was eating at the time, but just given the rate of my weight loss, I'm going to guess it was very low. So I kind of like lost all this weight. It really changed my mindset about food to be much, much more restrictive. And then at the same time, I started not knowing these were connected at the time, but I started developing all these unknown digestive symptoms where my digestion basically came to a halt. And I went to doctors and specialists and no one could tell me what was going on. And I was basically diagnosed with irritable bowel syndrome and told to go on a low fodmap diet, which again is quite restrictive. It's a therapeutic diet for ibs, not meant to be long term, but for some reason I didn't know that and I kind of took it on a bit longer term. And so I was coming off of Weight Watchers eating in. I. I was no longer following the Weight Watchers protocol, but I was still eating quite low calorie. And then I was also eating in this low FODMAP way, which is also very restrictive in its own way, by the way. It wasn't helping my digestion. And so that's kind of like what set me up to want to go back to school to become an rd. I thought, look at me, I lost weight and. And I have this unique experience with like these digestive troubles and IBS and the low fodmap diet that I can share with other people. So those. That's what I was thinking I would kind of go into. When I went back to school, I was thinking I'd either become like a digestive health RD or maybe like weight loss down the road. I wasn't really thinking of that. But then I kind of, I don't, I don't want to say like recovered from those things, but I gained more knowledge on those things.
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And your eyes are opened.
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B
Yeah, my eyes were open to different things over time and it kind of shifted. Shifted my focus. So. Yeah.
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So you had, when you got to school, you hadn't figured out your digestive stuff yet or you hadn't resolved that yet?
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B
No. And this was like. They all. It. It's like messy to think back on because it all kind of goes hand in hand and again, in a way that I didn't realize at the time. So what eventually happened to me with my digestive stuff is I went on this low fodmap diet. I was like eliminating foods left and right in the hopes that they were basically the low fodmap diet reduces certain carbohydrates in your diet that can cause some people some distress. That's basically what it's doing. So I was on like a gluten free diet at the time, but also limiting various other fruits, vegetables, all this stuff. But it wasn't helping me and that's why I kept pursuing other avenues like. And like reflecting back on this. Thank God it wasn't helping me because I can't imagine still having to eat that way. It was really so restrictive. So eventually what happened is I found a dietitian actually who helped me kind of realize I had something called sibo, which is like small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. And basically what happened is I got treated for sibo, which is by antibiotic, that alleviated my symptoms and then that allowed me to become less restrictive with food, which then helps me kind of improve my relationship with food and gave me this whole new perspective on everything. Now what I'll say is sibo's a little controversial. I believe in it because the antibiotic treatment immediately helped all of my symptoms. So I do think there's validity to it, although it is a little bit controversial. But I think what's mostly misunderstood about SIBO is that it's usually the symptom of something else. And I think for me, reflecting back being, you know, dietitian, thinking back on my own journey, I think it was my under eating that drove it. I think it was the Way we always think about digestion and, like, make sure you're eating your fiber, make sure you're eating fruits and vegetables, but you also need adequate fuel to have proper digestive function. You need enough calories for your body to want to put energy towards your digestive function, and you need enough volume of food to move things through. And I think what happened to me is I was on a super restrictive diet, and I wasn't eating enough food, enough calories, enough volume. It slowed things down, and that in turn then had me develop the sibo and all that stuff. And it's interesting. So the antibiotic treatment kind of helped alleviate the symptoms, but right after that, I went back to eating a much more balanced and adequate diet. And then I think that's what allowed me to stay, had to have improved symptoms over longer time. I think the sibo probably would have come back if I continued to eat in such a, you know, restrictive way. Wow.
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So the Weight Watchers thing and the eating, so restrictive. How did you. Was that mindset hard to escape from, or was it one of those light bulb moments when you got to RD school?
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I think I was really lucky that this all happened like before and as I was starting to go back to school, because I don't know if I would have had the same, like, enlightenment about food and nutrition if I hadn't. Like, I really, I mean, to lose weight was. It improved my life. And what I mean by that is that, like, I felt better about my body, people treated me nicer, like, I felt more confident. All this stuff. Right. So if I. I think if I hadn't gone back to school and realized that, you know, a more balanced approach was probably better and more sustainable on a variety of friends, I think I perhaps would have stayed in restrictive mindset because unfortunately, it was benefiting me to live that way. Even though my, you know, I had these debilitating digestive symptoms, ultimately it was. It felt worth it to me at the time.
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You know, I think a lot of people can relate to your story and. And restricting so much. If someone is restricting and they're hearing your story, but they're afraid of not restricting and gaining weight, what do you have to say?
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Okay, I'm gonna lay out kind of the truth of my story, and it doesn't necessarily have to be about this. I. I needed to gain some weight back for me. Maybe that's not the case for everybody, and it is scary and. But it doesn't have to be permanent. And it also might be the best thing for you at the time, I guess that's what I'll say. So for me, what kind of happened is I went back to eating in a less restrictive way. I gained some weight back just by nature of expanding my diet. But also what happened to me was that over the years I just, I could look back on it and realize that that wasn't what was going to be the best thing for my physical and mental health in the long term. And what I kind of decided for myself was I don't want to have any strict goals around my body or my food for a while because that was traumatizing. It did real damage to my body and my digestive function and my. And I gained weight and my. I was the better for it. I think it was the right thing and it was the scariest thing to me after losing weight, to gain weight back, it was terrifying. And then when it happened, it was not a big deal. It was annoying to buy more clothes and to go up in size. And I. There were times where I didn't like my body as much physically. I didn't like the way it looked. But I think over time, like, it just gave me such a balanced mindset that felt so much more freeing and sustainable. And for me, eventually I felt ready again to. To in a much more balanced and sustainable way, focus on my body composition again and get to a place where I felt comfortable. And I will never, I think, be as low weight as I was right after Weight Watchers, nor would I want to because I didn't have energy, my digestive couldn't work right. And I also didn't have muscle or anything like that. So I guess what I'd say to someone else was, it's scary. It might happen to you too, or it might not, but it might be better for you. And yeah, it doesn't necessarily have to be permanent either.
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That's, I think, the biggest thing that I've been through because, you know, our, our bodies just, they change.
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Yeah.
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And things happen in our life, circumstances happen and our weight may change and fluctuate. Having a baby is an example of that. And. And so for me, like, when I gained, I gained like a little bit of weight postpartum, like not a ton, but my body composition did change a little bit postpartum. And for me it was just like, I don't see this as permanent and, and therefore, like, I just am not worried about it. Like, it's just. And that is a lot for me to like, get to that point where I'm just like, I just don't care. I'm still gonna wear my like two piece, like little exercise sets and you know, even though my body doesn't look like it did before I had a B. So now where are you kind of at with your wellness goals? Are you, you say you, you don't have, you're never going to go back to eating that restrictive. So do you have wellness goals now or where have you landed?
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Yeah, well, let me just say I wanted to say something because you were talking about your kind of postpartum journey a little bit and gaining weight, not caring as much. I think that was, you know, weight, gaining weight and kind of being forced into that, like, more balanced diet for a while. And gaining weight was one of the best things to, to me because it forced me to just care less. I just. And it's, it's the best thing on earth. It's so scary to think about when you're in a place of restriction and wanting to be as thin as possible. It feels like an impossible mindset. But caring less about how my body looks like is the best thing that's ever happened to me. Oh my gosh. And I think it's funny because ultimately I think it helps me eat better and live better because my motivations for it are so different. And I just wanted to kind of give that aside because I can relate to.
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Yeah.
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And it's also thinking about pregnancy maybe one day. I also think now, like, well, I've been through that before. I've been through the weight gain. It's not that bad. Yeah, I could do that again. It's not so stressful.
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It doesn't have to be stressful and it doesn't mean that it's permanent. And when I went through my kind of changing the way I was exercising, I kind of have a similar story to you, but with exercise and under eating as well. And when I changed all of that and I started eating more and exercising less, I did gain a little bit of weight, but my chronic pain that I was struggling with so bad was gone. And so it's just like I, I, for me, that was so worth it at the time because I was like, I just want to feel better. And so it, like in, it's so interesting how your brain chemistry works. You kind of hit that breaking point where you're like, don't care. Like just, just care about feeling better. And then, you know, if I gain a little bit of weight, that's okay.
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Yeah.
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And again, I just never see since then, you know, that was four or five Years ago. Like, again, my body has changed and fluctuated a lot since then. And now I'm at the point where I'm like, it's probably gonna change again and it's okay. Like if, if I have a body composition goal, like, I know how to get there without feeling like it's taking over my life because I have this experience now. So I think that, I think that that's really important for you to say.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So where are you at now with your wellness goals or do you have wellness goals?
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B
Yeah. So as I said, forever, I wouldn't touch it because I just was like scared to get back there and go back to a restrictive place. And that was totally fine. And I, to be honest, like, I thought I would never want to do anything again, and that was okay with me. Just try my best to eat my best and ex guys and whatever. But over time, I felt like more ready to pursue more structured things, which has been fun too. So right now for me, building muscles, my current journey, which is so, you know, I love to hear that fun. And I'll. Maybe I'll get into kind of my journey with Evo because it was a bit of a journey for me. But right now my focus is, I will say in all honesty, body recomposition is my journey, but with more of a focus on muscle building. So I currently don't have an interest in being in any type of calorie deficit and I don't really have an interest in being super structured with it, but I want to see some muscle gain and if some. A little bit of fat loss happened from that, I think that would be great too. I don't care as much about that piece of it. So for me, just to be honest with people, because I talk a lot about. It's okay to borrow from different approaches, but I think we don't necessarily hear people talk about that. That's what I'm doing. So for me, what that looks like is I'm going to take a couple of weeks and I'm currently in this to try to track my calories, but with a focus on protein, I find protein really unintuitive. I. It's not at all intuitive for me to eat enough to support muscle growth and to support my hunger levels when I'm intentionally trying to build muscle. So I'm trying to take a couple weeks to see what it feels like to eat more protein, need enough protein to build muscle, and then I don't plan on using that as a tool long term, but I just want to Kind of gauge where I'm at and how that feels and then ease off of it and then see what happens to my body from there when I'm eating a bit more instinctively without the help of that tool.
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A
I think that's really important for you to highlight where you're at, because a lot of people see registered dietitians that they're like, they have it all figured out, their nutrition is perfect, and you're like, no, I still have to go back to the basics and track sometimes because I. I'm not sure where I'm at right now. So I think. I think that that will be really freeing for people to hear.
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B
Yeah. And it's funny, too, because one thing that we. One thing that's shown consistently is in research is regardless of education, we do a bad job of estimating our intake. And not necessarily through the lens of overeating. It can just be like the macronutrients on our plate thinking we're getting enough protein and not quite. So I think, you know, if that feels like a tool that could be helpful for you, it can be, which is great.
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Right?
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B
Yeah, I love it. What.
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A
What about exercise where you said. Mentioned that you in your past were not active? How has this. That evolved for you over time?
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B
Yeah, it. I can't emphasize this enough. I was like, the most sedentary child on earth. Like, I. My poor parents, like, they put me in soccer, that whatever I'd did.
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Oh, you're just like, I don't.
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B
I hate this. I sit on the field, like, pick flowers. It was bad. I just. I don't know what it was like. I just like, yeah, I did not have the natural instinct to want to move my body at all. So over time, it's changed for me. Right around when I was, like, dabbling with weight watchers and the digestive stuff and all that, I started trying to get into exercise, too. And for me, actually, it started with just yoga. We started too. It's. Isn't that funny? It was a beautiful eason because it's got that balance of, like, there is some strength and, you know, discipline required for yoga, but it's also gentle in a lot of ways, and it can help you feel so good. So that doesn't feel so intense, especially if you're getting started, it doesn't feel so intense. So that's where it kind of started for me. And then over the years, I've. Consistency with exercise has always been hard for me, I think, because for, like, the first 20 years of my life, I didn't touch it. And, you know, I don't. I didn't have that as a habit, and I didn't have the muscle memory, which sounds so silly, but I just. Just don't think I did. So. Consistency has always been a struggle for me. So over the years for me, I've always just allowed myself to do whatever. Whatever exercise feels like I can be consistent with at the time. And so for a long time, it was yoga and then bar classes and then peloton for a couple years, and that was great. And I think, again, allowing myself to just go slow with everything has allowed me to get to a point now where I feel like I can be more structured with a goal in mind with exercise. But it took me, like, literally a.
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Decade to get here to just wire, like, exercises a part of my life.
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B
Yes. Yeah. And should I have gone faster? Maybe, maybe.
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But I mean, come on, hindsight's 2020 and it's exercise, and I think I had the. I was just on somebody else's podcast, and she is, like, this athlete and, like, super strong, lots of beautiful muscle, and she's like, help our listeners understand, you know, someone that doesn't like exercise. And, like, she's like, you. And I can't understand that because, like, we love. And I was like, I actually don't. I don't love exercise.
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B
Ye.
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A
Like, everyone thinks that maybe I do, and I've gotten to. And that's part of the reason why I'm so passionate about Evolo is I feel like it's such a lower barrier to entry to start a class because it doesn't feel like it's going to be so intense. But I definitely forced myself to do intense exercise. And if I'm going to do, like, any sort of interval training, I have to force myself to do it. So I don't think that there are some people like you and I that maybe it doesn't feel like this natural inclination. And of course, the more you do it, the more you want to do it.
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B
Yeah.
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So it does take, like, you know, you kind of have to push, like, not force yourself, but, yeah, kind of.
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B
Force yourself to do it again. There's, like, this whole term online, and this is more maybe in the intuitive eating space of, like, you know, your movement should be joyful. And it's just something I've never related to because I just think, yeah, I don't want to force myself to do terrible things that are bad for my body and I absolutely loathe, but, like, I will never find that much Joy out of exercise. I don't think not everything needs to.
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A
Be joyous in our life, you know.
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But I can find other positive mental health benefits from it. And also it's important for our bodies regardless. And to me it's more like find the thing you hate the least. Yeah, totally care. Totally. Totally. Yeah. So what got you?
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A
How did you find Flo? Because I think, I think we discovered each other maybe before. I can't remember if you had already.
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B
Been doing eflow when I found you. I can't. I was trying to remember. I heard you on a podcast and I can't remember whose podcast I've heard you on, but it was years ago. Okay. And I didn't even start Evlo after. Right after I heard you, I think I just started following you and then got more exposed to the program. But that's how I found you and how I found Evolo.
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A
So what, what made you. Where, where are you at now with Evolo? And was that something that felt like a lower barrier to you or what was. What was your experience with getting started with weight training?
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B
Yeah. So, okay, I'm going to tell the honest story of all of this, but I think it might help some people. I don't know if anyone can relate to me. I, again, I feel like I was an exceptionally sedentary.
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No, I can tell you right now, people will.
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B
I know that. Okay. For me, strength training has always been the most intimidating type of exercise. And also it's always been the, the type of exercise that I've had the most difficulty recovering from. So for when I finally enrolled in Evlo, it was very difficult for me. Not so much in the, like, the work. The workouts are great because they're short. There's like a, A, a warmup and a cool down. They're like less than 35 minutes. That was great. But my recovery consistently was so tough. It would, I would be sore for days after those leg days. And there were so many weeks where I got to the second workout of the week and I was just way too sore to continue. And that continued forever where I kind of dabble in and out and my soreness was like my limiting factor for being able to continue, even though I wanted to strength train so bad. Now, reflecting back, I think my nutrition could have used improvement, but I wasn't really ready to dial that in yet. But that for me. But I still just like consistently wanted to try, so I'd ease off of it, try to ease back in, whatever. And actually what eventually led me to being Able to be consistent with Evolo is kind of treating myself like I would a client. And, like, okay, even though they're only 35 minutes, this is too hard for you right now. So instead, what I did was I took the circuit tab and I just would do a round of the circuit or two, and I would end when I felt enough. And literally, it was only, like, a couple weeks of that that I needed to be able to go into the full classes. It was like magic.
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A
I love, love, love that you were saying this.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Because it. It's so true. It's like, if you're gonna do the full classes, but then you're too sore to even do the rest of the program and think it's hard for you to stay consistent with that. There's no, you know, what's the point? It's not that it's useless. Of course, something is better than nothing, but if you're able to ease in.
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B
Yeah. And then.
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A
And then you're able to stay more consistent, and it feels better.
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B
Like, it's so funny. Like, and I see this with people, with other people, with nutrition, but it's funny because it exists within myself, too. But, like, nobody knew. Nobody would know if I took a full class or not. Right. But I still had so much, like, embarrassment over the idea of, like, not taking a full class that it took me so, like, so long to even, like, think about the idea of just, like, not taking a full class for a while.
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A
Yeah. It's almost like you're like, are they checking my profile to see. Just so everyone knows that we do not check your profile. I don't even think we could see how much of a class.
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B
No, right. Exactly. And it was literally. It just had to be a mindset shift for me of, like, nobody knows. Yeah, nobody knows. And if your goal is to do these classes and to be able to do every class of the week, you literally have to ease in. So just try and see. And that was it. That's all it took for me, which was so great.
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A
Are you feeling less sore now?
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B
Oh, I don't get soreness really at all now. I. I can't even tell you. I was like, no, there's something wrong with me. It's just. There's something wrong with me. I'm just, like, someone who gets really so sore, and I'll never be able to do it. And that was not the case.
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A
You were just pushing too hard, too soon, and. Yeah. Especially if you don't have a background of a lot of strength training. Like, you know, sign from. To explain kind of the mechanism of this, you have to wire neural pathways to certain movements before you can start loading them. So a lot of times why people get sore in the beginning is because they haven't had those strong neural pathways established yet. And so even though one dosage of strength training might feel completely, like, fine for somebody else, for somebody that's newer to it, they might have a harder time recovering because of those. Those neural pathways aren't formed yet.
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B
It's so interesting.
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A
It is really interesting. So I. But I think that a lot people can relate to that, because not everyone was an athlete that lifted in high school and college and beyond. And I didn't. I was like, a cheerleader, and I was. I gravitated more towards, like, yoga and Pilates for that reason. So lifting weights doesn't feel as natural even today. Like, it's on way better. But even today, it doesn't feel as natural as, like, a yoga or Pilates class would to my body. So it's all about the neural pathways and the history and the conditioning. And I love that you're like. Like, you talk about that with your clients, with nutrition as well. Like, your history, your background with dieting. How is that going to lay the foundation for where you're at today? So.
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B
Yeah, and it's funny, too, because, like, one of the great things about Evlo is that, I mean, you guys are doctors of physical therapy, and, like, you're picking very specific movements to load these muscles, and you're instructing us to go near failure, which is amazing. But it also meant, like, my first dabble with strength training was like. Like, you know, an effective dabble, and it was probably gonna leave me sore, leaving me confused. Yes.
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A
Your body is like, oh, my gosh, this is a lot of stimulus.
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B
So. Yeah. But I just. I. I really was excited to share that because I was like, if that helps one other person ease in, because I really just thought it wasn't. I thought it was gonna be like that forever, and it wasn't.
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A
So cue the hundreds of messages that we're about to get from our members.
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B
Being like, I relate to this so much. Thank you for so. Oh, my gosh, I hope so. And if not, just, like, you can't make fun of me. Just between us. That's not gonna happen either.
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A
Well, this is awesome. I think it's really inspiring to hear this story.
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B
Anything.
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A
Anything about your story that you feel like it was left unsaid that would help the listener?
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B
No, I don't think so. But I really want to emphasize, total, you know, change of subject here, but I really want to emphasize if you're having digestive troubles and you've gone to the doctor and your testing's coming back normal, consider your fueling and consider if you're getting enough. Because I, and I, I. It's funny because I remember Googling at the time, fast weight loss, digestive troubles, and nothing was coming up. But I'd like thought about it for a moment and I remember Googling it, but I didn't really feel any validation. So I kind of moved on from that at the time. But reflecting back and knowing now what we know, it certainly is a factor if you're under fueling and digestive trouble. So to consider it, even though it's kind of scary to consider.
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A
Yes, absolutely. Well, getting your health, I mean, your digestive system is a big part of your overall health.
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B
Yes.
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A
It's an output. Right. So that we can vary, that we can measure. And if, if your digestive system isn't working properly, it's probably an input that you're giving your body that can be adjusted. So I think that's brilliant.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Okay, Miranda, tell us. I know this is the third time.
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B
Doing this is the third episode, but we're recording.
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A
But just in case this is the.
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B
First one someone's listening to, tell us.
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A
Where they can find you.
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B
Yeah, so my handle on Instagram and TikTok is real life nutritionist and I've got a with lots of easy recipes, reallifenutritionist.com and yeah, feel free to message me my emails in there too. Awesome. Thank you, Miranda, so much.
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A
Thank you listeners. We will see you all next week, same time, same place. Bye for now.