Brian Broadus (1:55)

Tiny G man.

Tommy Yarish (1:56)

Thank you, man. Appreciate that. It's. When you have a really good quarterback, that's what you get.

Kyle Yeomans (1:59)

That's about right. The. The final seven days until the draft. And tonight since we do have the.

Tommy Yarish (2:06)

Whataburger shirt on, that's we're doing.

Kyle Yeomans (2:07)

We've got our draft 101 tonight. All of us will be there. Voch is even going to be in attendance, right?

Voch Lombardi (2:12)

Listen, man, 1053 got to do a better job of that, man. They, they. I feel like they ain't really pushing it out there. I feel like they ain't really showing us love like that. You know what I mean? What do you mean?

Tommy Yarish (2:21)

Well, he's Vauch is.

Kyle Yeomans (2:23)

You want the tag on like the.

Voch Lombardi (2:25)

And I hope they listening too. Cause they'll. Cause they'll tweet out, hey, guys, we're doing draft one on one, and it's Brian Zach, and I'm like, what about us? I got a cool little Twitter following. I got a couple people in the chat right now. That'll come through.

Brian Broadus (2:39)

Hey, now that they know Vauch is going to be there, the floodgates are open.

Voch Lombardi (2:42)

That ain't true.

Kyle Yeomans (2:43)

We retweeted it. We got to limit the amount of people that can come here. Whataburger's only got 100 sandwiches.

Voch Lombardi (2:49)

I would rather turn people down than us show up needing questions for the last hour. And two people in there because they not telling folk that it's going down like that.

Brian Broadus (3:00)

I can't wait to hop in the autograph line for Vach and Broadus.

Kyle Yeomans (3:03)

Are you hopping in it?

Brian Broadus (3:05)

Absolutely. Yeah. Such a big, big fan. Big fan. Not yours. Yeah, I'm good off of that.

Voch Lombardi (3:10)

But shouts out. Shouts out to the 153 people. I don't mean no harm. I don't work here.

Tommy Yarish (3:15)

I don't work. You do.

Voch Lombardi (3:16)

I don't mean no harm.

Tommy Yarish (3:17)

Don't go there.

Voch Lombardi (3:18)

But you could tag Vach Lombardi and people go, oh, damn. Okay. I like him. I would do this. Attack Tommy Yards, tag Nick Harris. They like us.

Kyle Yeomans (3:25)

Yeah.

Voch Lombardi (3:26)

What it is.

Kyle Yeomans (3:26)

That's okay.

Voch Lombardi (3:27)

Come on.

Brian Broadus (3:28)

Follow me back on Twitter yet? He's too big for us. That's why I got.

Voch Lombardi (3:31)

I haven't done.

Tommy Yarish (3:31)

What?

Brian Broadus (3:31)

You haven't followed me back on Twitter yet.

Tommy Yarish (3:33)

Botch really doesn't get involved with Twitter all that much.

Voch Lombardi (3:35)

I don't treat Twitter like Facebook, you know?

Brian Broadus (3:37)

That's why I got to hop in the autograph line.

Voch Lombardi (3:39)

I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll do it. Let me do it.

Kyle Yeomans (3:43)

With that being said, I'm going to.

Tommy Yarish (3:45)

Put you on mute right after.

Voch Lombardi (3:46)

About to mute the hell out of time. I never hear from him again.

Tommy Yarish (3:49)

Do the same thing to him.

Voch Lombardi (3:50)

Wait till after.

Brian Broadus (3:51)

He's going to block me in. Two weeks after we wait till the.

Voch Lombardi (3:53)

Draft, though, I never see none of y' all again.

Tommy Yarish (3:55)

None of it.

Kyle Yeomans (3:56)

Go back into hiding.

Voch Lombardi (3:58)

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm just derail. They hate when I do this. Kyle, I love it.

Kyle Yeomans (4:01)

I think it's great. Seven o' clock tonight in the fan showroom. 4131 North Central Expressway. Free waterburger for those that show up. We're giving away some prizes. Cd, Lamb, Hellman, Dak, Prescott, signed gear. We're all going to be there. We're going to be on the air for about an hour. I think seven to eight is what the the allotted time is for. So we're really excited about it. Zach Wolchuk's going to to coverage down there. We're going to answer as many draft questions as possible. So according to Twitter on the 20 and Vach Lombardi, we're going to get through two over that hour of of time. Can't wait to hit that initially.

Tommy Yarish (4:35)

He ain't lying.

Kyle Yeomans (4:37)

With it being a week out from the draft. Gentlemen, we got a lot of questions out there. But VO you did bring up a topic of conversation that I do want to get to for sure. I want to gauge where we would feel comfortable filling certain roles on this team and how deep into the draft we can get into it. How deep into the draft we can find certain places and needs like wide receiver two, like running back one, like a starting offensive line. All of these different elements. So I'm going to run through each position. I want you to tell me what is the latest that we could possibly draft each one of these guys that would fill it in. We'll start with wide receiver 2. When is the latest you would feel comfortable drafting a wide receiver too? Not talking about a Jalen Tolbert competitive. I'm talking somebody that is a clear cut to behind CD Lamp.

Voch Lombardi (5:26)

So this player would be better than Jalen Tolbert you would say?

Tommy Yarish (5:28)

Correct.

Voch Lombardi (5:29)

That can come in and get six touchdowns and you know, 600 yards. Year one.

Kyle Yeomans (5:34)

Sure.

Voch Lombardi (5:35)

I would say, I would say round two is as, is as late as I would feel confident about that. So for me that's Jack Best, Jalen Royers and Ellic Al Minor. I think Jalen Noel would be a good player. These are my third around guys. Um, I think Tez Johnson would be a good player. Trey Harris would be a good player. I don't see them getting what Jalen Tobert would get because then you have to account for Jalen Tobert's next, next bump up or whatever like year four Jalen Tolbert or whatever. So I, I think round two is as far as it'll go. So context for this though, Kyle. The reason why, you know, just bringing this up is because you kind of got to figure out what goes where. Yeah, like, like, like, like where you gonna take picks? Because for me I'm not really into the offensive tackle race but I love Josh Simmons.

Brian Broadus (6:19)

Yeah.

Voch Lombardi (6:19)

I'm saying so once I get past Simmons or maybe like one other guy like you know, Mimbo, I'm not really looking for offense tackle at all. So that's my context for like bringing this up like this. So once we get past round two, I'm moving on from wide receiver. I'm looking for something else. That's just the context behind that.

Kyle Yeomans (6:34)

Okay, so what do you think wide receiver two can be?

Tommy Yarish (6:37)

Brian, you know what? Yeah. That Vosges hit the right names. I think I would include Royals in there.

Kyle Yeomans (6:45)

Okay.

Tommy Yarish (6:46)

I think I could carry this thing down to God. This is going to be tough, but here we go. I think I could carry this thing to Kyle Williams.

Kyle Yeomans (6:55)

Wow.

Tommy Yarish (6:56)

And I got him at 66 on my stack. But that's kind of where I'm at right now. Savion Williams, I really do like that kid from tcu, man. He does a lot of things for me. As Bill Parcellis would say, you take him to the game, you're going to get a lot of plays out of him. But I think that you're. I think Devotch has hit this. I think that Besh Iman your those kinds of guys. I think. I think Tommy's going to tell me about Harris from Ole Miss. You know, as a guy that could be a possibly there. But I. Kyle Williams is kind of the guy that I'm looking at and saying, okay, maybe that's the guy that could come in and give me that role as a second guy. Vertical player across the field player, run after catch player.

Kyle Yeomans (7:40)

Yeah.

Tommy Yarish (7:41)

That's kind of where I'm maybe putting the line in the sand.

Kyle Yeomans (7:43)

We haven't talked a whole lot about him, specifically at wide receiver. And you've been very, very high on Savion Williams from tcu.

Tommy Yarish (7:53)

I have.

Kyle Yeomans (7:53)

Off the jump. So I'm a little shocked to hear you say you have Kyle Williams higher. Tell me a little bit. About what?

Tommy Yarish (7:59)

Well, once I studied Kyle Williams out of Washington State. Out of Washington State. You know, I just started to see a guy who was a high targeted guy. I saw separation. I saw run after catch. I saw being able to make contested catches. I saw separation. Yeah. Deep ball stuff. I mean, you look at the way that he was able to make plays down the field and make it at all three levels. The screen, the screen game. Not that the Cowboys are any great screen running team, but you saw it really at Washington State at all three levels in the same thing with Williams. You saw Williams, they put him in the backfield and handing the ball. And Voch will probably tell you, I'm sure that, hey, man, is this guy a running back? Is this guy running this guy? Kind of. Should we look at him as more of a running back, you know, than really a wide receiver, the way he runs the ball. But I just feel like that Kyle Williams is just give me level. Give me that play on all three levels that I need and would be really, really good. And I think he's. I think right now he would be a better player than Tolbert.

Kyle Yeomans (9:04)

Okay.

Brian Broadus (9:05)

I feel good in the, in the third, I think for wide receiver, too. And a lot of the names that these guys have thrown out there. Brian mentioned it. I'm higher on Trey Harris. I've got him in the second. Okay, so that would be. If you get him at 44 and you want to focus on something else at 12, I can live with that. But I think this is. These first three rounds of wide receivers are for what the Cowboys are looking for. You've got guys there. I mean, Besh, you guys mentioned I.O. manor from Stanford. I'm with Brian. I love Royals from ut, Utah State, Jaden Higgins. I've got him in the third. I'm a little bit lower on him, I think. And then, you know, Savion Williams from tcu. I've got him in the fourth. So even if, if he falls down and, you know, the Cowboys do something to trade up and get their fourth round pick back, potentially, yeah, that would be someone that I'd be good with. So I think that if you don't look at, if the Cowboys don't look at McMillan and Golden at 12 as, like, I don't know if we want to take a wide receiver, two guy at 12 and we want to wait till later. I don't think that's the worst thing in the world. I just think a guy like McMillan, if he's there at 12, makes way too much sense.

Kyle Yeomans (10:09)

Well, and I think that's the conversation you have to have. And that goes back to what Vox was talking about. Can you stretch wide receiver if you don't go there in the first? Because I think right now we would all say wide receivers one of, if not the most likely picks at 12 for the Cowboys. So can you push it past that?

Tommy Yarish (10:27)

Yeah, we keep talking about this, though, but do they feel differently about their wide receiver room than we do? Maybe, you know, they, they feel like with Mingo and Tolbert and Flournoy and Brooks, do they feel different about them? And they should, you know, and, you know, you're. Yeah. I mean, the, the evaluation would say. And there's a reason why they brought all those receivers in, all those top receivers.

Kyle Yeomans (10:49)

They.

Tommy Yarish (10:49)

They probably. But I just wonder if in fact, that they, that they. Look at me personally, I kind of feel like the corners even more pressing than wide receiver at times.

Kyle Yeomans (11:00)

Yeah, but does the value line up? Because that goes back to Will Johnson and Jade Baron and that conversation.

Tommy Yarish (11:05)

You know what I mean? I, I'm going to have. I'm going to have these wide receivers higher on my board. But again, I don't know if they would. That's the thing. I don't know. Even though they brought all those guys in, I don't know if. Are they smokescreening us maybe? You know, are they saying, hey, we're not going to. It's like one thing when they, when they bring in the East Carolina corner, which I think. And I don't know the other five or six names, there might have been some more corners in that group, but there was one corner. You know, to me, if they just brought in one of these wide receivers, maybe that would telegraph what they're. What they're thinking about. Or did they bring all these guys in to say, listen, we're not going to give anybody an opportunity to kind of get a gauge of what we're doing here. But I, I mean corner to me is. Is super, super pressing.

Kyle Yeomans (11:51)

Yeah.

Tommy Yarish (11:51)

And, and. But they might feel better about wide receiver than I know our show does.

Kyle Yeomans (11:55)

Well, let's go into corner then. As a part of this, I guess run down for the most part, by the way, I would take seven receivers, so second round is where I've got it. I mean, the last guy that I would take over Jalen Tolbert in this same kind of comparison would be Royals from Utah State. That would be the last guy I've got in terms of the current wide receivers. But let's go to corner. Starting corner that you could have. It could be a nickel, it could be an outside corner. It could be one of those guys on the boundary. Where would you feel comfortable taking a starting caliber corner as deep as you possibly can?

Voch Lombardi (12:33)

So I think corner's totally different and I wish I was on last week's show or last. Last show or whatever.

Kyle Yeomans (12:38)

The Tuesday show.

Voch Lombardi (12:38)

Yeah, yeah. The, the pick a tackle, wide receiver, running back, conversation, whatever. I was on team one Tech for that. Yeah, you were because the Cowboys have problems with the run game and things like that. But I just feel like cornerback is.

Kyle Yeomans (12:50)

That you left out corner. Right.

Voch Lombardi (12:51)

100%. But I feel like cornerback is deep as all get out. So I'm down in round four and maybe in the middle of five I'm up here like longer beam can probably play Some corner for me right now. Kobe Bryant, Riley Hussey. I'm just thinking about names way, way, way deep down in there. More than likely Cowboys are probably going to take a third round corner. I got Maxwell Harrison there, but he might be a first round guy since he going to the draft and all that. So I'm just wrong on that one. But like Darion Porter, he'll be a fantastic cover three guy for you, you know. So there's every single round I'm looking at, at corners and I'm just not running out of guys. I think at most, at most from lsu. Alexander, he can compete. Alexander, he can compete with Kaylin Carson at least, you know.

Julian Edelman (13:39)

Absolutely.

Voch Lombardi (13:40)

So, so I'm. Corners is deep in this class. This is my own, my own person.

Kyle Yeomans (13:44)

Remember Kaitlyn Carson was what a 5th round pick last year and he immediately had some, some rotation there at corner. They felt really good about that. But they could go deep into this class. I mean I'm looking at fourth and fifth round guys that I'm looking at guys like, like Elijah Hussey from North Carolina, Jalen Smith from usc. You mentioned Brian Jabar Muhammad from Oregon. These are all guys I would feel comfortable with at least putting in a rotation right now. Now a bonafide starter, you probably got to go top three rounds also too.

Voch Lombardi (14:13)

Kyle and table. Do you guys think that the league is valuing corner like less? Because walking into a draft I'd be like, bo, that's a top ten dude for me. Queen Yon Mitchell's a top ten dude for me. What's our guy? Pittsburgh a couple years ago, Penn State, Joey Porter boy. Joey Porter's a dude that everybody on draft boy. We love Joey Porter and these guys fall and they get to the league and they do fine. Yeah, but why is corner falling like that? Like why all of a sudden corners that we love, that we watch film on and they go to the league and do fine. So we not wrong. League. League is wrong.

Kyle Yeomans (14:45)

We right.

Voch Lombardi (14:46)

Why do those guys drop so much?

Tommy Yarish (14:47)

Well, I mean I think the best example of somebody that didn't think exactly what you just said was Philadelphia Eagles for sure. They realized they drafted two corners and that changed their defense completely. Yeah, it did is what they did with Mitchell and DeJean. So you know, I try and play without a couple of them. Dallas did that for a while and you know, and they had to throw Carson out there and it didn't work out and they were signing guys off the street. Didn't work out. You know, there was, there's A lot of things. But, you know, I, I don't want to believe that teams are, are doing that and saying that about corners because I think it is such an important position. So I just. The example of Philadelphia, if you, if you want to believe that, and I'm not saying I'm not going, you watch. I'm saying. But if you want to believe that, go look at the Philadelphia Eagles. Go look at how they ended their season two years ago on, on defense and then look how they ended the season this last year. That's all you need to know. That's all you need to know about how important corners are for your football team. Me personally, though, I think when you start getting past say Kobe Bryant at, at Kansas, I'm starting to kind of feel like, okay, am I really, really going to get a starter out of this one?

Kyle Yeomans (15:59)

Where you, where do you have him?

Tommy Yarish (16:01)

He's my 135th best player on my board.

Kyle Yeomans (16:04)

So is that a fourth?

Tommy Yarish (16:05)

That's about a fourth.

Kyle Yeomans (16:06)

Yeah.

Tommy Yarish (16:06)

I, like we mentioned Alexander, I have at 139. Ranshaw, I mean, it is a drop when I get down to Ranshaw from Tulane was a guy that I looked at, I picked up, you know, late.

Kyle Yeomans (16:19)

You have as a corner or a safety.

Tommy Yarish (16:21)

I'm a corner.

Voch Lombardi (16:21)

Okay.

Kyle Yeomans (16:22)

Yeah, he played a lot of safety.

Tommy Yarish (16:24)

Yeah, Tulane. Yeah, I think I got him. I got him at pick 171. So maybe to me it's more like the guys you were talking about, it was Hussy, Mohammed, maybe from Oregon. Dotson, another guy and Bryant and Alexander. That might be where you kind of start to. And everything else after that might be. You're kind of thinking, okay, guys got traits, but he's limited doing this.

Brian Broadus (16:52)

Yeah, I'm with you guys, but I just feel like because of what we saw with Philadelphia last year, you wonder, okay, do we take a premium pick on a corner if we're going to get that kind of game changing defensive performance out of a guy like that. Is there a guy in this draft early? I think there could be. I mean, you look at guys in like the second round. Benjamin Morrison from Notre Dame, Trey Amos from Ole Miss, Azariah Thomas. I've got him in the second. So, you know, names like that can come into a room where you don't know when Trayvon Diggs is going to come back. You don't really have a nickel guy at the moment. So is that something that they decide to double dip or. I know there's been. People have talked about moving Duron Bland Inside, I'm not of the opinion that they should do that. But do you get a high value guy like that, you use him a premium pick on it and try to bolster your defense that way? I don't think it's out of the equation as far as how comfortable I think with the consensus here. You know, you look at names like Corey Black from Oklahoma State, that would be one I'd be okay with. Quincy Riley from Louisville is a guy I really like. Dorian Strong, Virginia Tech, all names that could make sense for you. But I think I would prefer to spend one of those second or maybe even third round picks on a corner just because right now this team needs a starting cornerback alongside Duron Bland for as long as Trayvon Diggs isn't there.

Voch Lombardi (18:10)

Let me ask y' all this. Where do y' all have Jade A. Baron versus Last year?

Kyle Yeomans (18:14)

Right?

Voch Lombardi (18:14)

Versus Mitchell and Arnold from last year's draft? Quinn, Sean Mitchell and Tyrion Arnold. Like, like, like I'm saying Baron, because we all may not feel that great about Will Johnson or whatever. So I'm saying Baron. I think we all can agree that we love Baron here. Where do you grade Baron versus last year's best corner?

Kyle Yeomans (18:34)

He would be my fourth corner. He would be behind Arnold, Mitchell DeJean, and that's it. I would put him four, put those three guys up above him.

Voch Lombardi (18:43)

JOHN A. Probably a second round.

Kyle Yeomans (18:44)

And that's based off of last year. I pulled up my draft board from last year, so that's before they even played. And those three guys ended up playing pretty well throughout the year. But that's, that's where I'd have them.

Voch Lombardi (18:53)

I don't know if it would matter. But this draft, man, we gotta account for inflation, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, we gotta, we gotta account for the idea that nobody wants to.

Kyle Yeomans (19:02)

Hear about that on this show.

Voch Lombardi (19:03)

I apologize.

Kyle Yeomans (19:04)

Dealing with that.

Voch Lombardi (19:04)

Anyway, that's what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying? We gotta account for the idea that this year's class ain't like last year's class. I see it a lot on this. Oh, well, that's not a player that's worth the 12th overall pick. Like, well, man, this is one of them drafts where the dude that we draft at 12 this year ain't gonna be like the dude that went 12 last year. So we have to think about that.

Tommy Yarish (19:25)

I went last year. I'm just looking at my board. I had Arnold, Mitchell, Wiggins. Yeah, I had Wiggins.

Voch Lombardi (19:31)

I didn't like Wiggins.

Tommy Yarish (19:32)

And then I had DeJean as the first player in the second round, if that helps you with anything. But I'm kind of feeling like that maybe I would have. I think I would have had Arnold over. I don't think I would have had Mitchell over. Baron is where I'm at right there. So I think maybe only Arnold would have been the guy that I had over. Over.

Kyle Yeomans (19:53)

Where is he in your stack? Baron.

Brian Broadus (19:55)

Baron.

Kyle Yeomans (19:56)

Yeah. I'm just curious.

Tommy Yarish (19:57)

Yeah, the Baron's like my ninth guy. Yeah, you're.

Kyle Yeomans (20:01)

I have him at 12.

Voch Lombardi (20:02)

Yeah.

Tommy Yarish (20:03)

Yeah. Let me look at this real quick because I want to make sure I get it right. Yeah, he. See these corners are bothering me in a way because of the injury stuff. And I'm trying to get as much. I'm trying to get as much information about him as I can. And I got Reville at. I got 15 names. So I've got them. It's. It's. I just wanted to make sure I had them all in the first. I got Revel in the at 12, Baron at 14, Benjamin Morse at 15. And then I'm done. So I, I just was like, I was waiting for medical information on him. I got favorable one on Revel. I got favorable report on Morrison. So I'm going to leave them right there. But yeah, I have baron as my 14th best player.

Kyle Yeomans (20:43)

Okay. And remember, for those at home listening, Brian considers Hunter a wide receiver.

Tommy Yarish (20:48)

I do just is he's wide receiver number one.

Kyle Yeomans (20:53)

All right, let's take our first break. We'll get into some more of those. I want to talk D tackle definitely in the second or the third segment. And then I want to talk a little O line. When would you feel comfortable drafting offensive linemen in that third segment as well? When we come back, it's time to go into some Twitter on the 20. What prospect has taken the biggest hit from the beginning of the draft process up until this point? And where could they possibly end up?

Voch Lombardi (21:18)

All right, Brian, get rid of.

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Yeah, here we go. Being taken in next week's draft. The draft show returns right after this.

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This is the Dallas Cowboys.com draft show Cowboys fans get ready for draft weekend presented by Miller Light at the Star in Frisco. The action kicks off Thursday, April 24 with the ultimate Draft Party, continues Friday with the Draft Hangout and wraps up on Saturday with the draft day 5k presented by Baylor, Scott and White. Health 3 days of football fun and fan experiences you won't want to miss. Visit Dallas Cowboys.com draft for more details. We will be on the air through every single one of the 257 picks of this NFL draft. Can't wait for next week's coverage. We'll get started night one at 6 o' clock on 153, the Fan and the Odyssey app also on Dallas Cowboys.com as well. And then we'll continue through the entire first round. Same start time for day two. We'll go 6 o' clock right at the beginning of the draft in the second round and then on day three we start at 10. We'll go on an hour early before the first pick ends up at about 11 o' clock central time. So 10 o' clock central and we'll get to talk to some of the coaching staff and some of the players or the scouts. Stuff like that is what we're anticipating. So lots of coverage and everybody will be mixing and matching throughout the weekend. There's starting next Thursday, but with that being said, it's time for our penultimate edition of some Twitter on the 20. Let's go. Philip wants to know what prospect has taken the biggest fall from the beginning of the draft process in which has made the biggest climb. We'll start with the biggest fall. Brian started started humming the Aggie Warhead.

Tommy Yarish (26:35)

Yeah, I think it's Nick Scorton, isn't it? From Texas A and M. Might be. Do you think so? I mean he I know that there were, there were. When I when Fotch and I we were all, we were all looking at this stuff. I know Tommy and then probably started looking at this draft and during the Football season in the summertime. But when I picked it up, you know, Nick Scorton was a guy that, from Texas A and M that a lot of people had potentially as a first round guy. And now you do not see him really on any of the first round things. I mean, there's a lot of people that, you know, I mean, they do the three, when they do the three pick mocks, you know, he might be a third round guy for some people and stuff like that. So I think those, I think those Texas A and M kids, we spent a lot of time trying to kind of figure them out, but I believe he was the one guy and I'm sure Vaccina is going to come up with somebody else different than that. But we, I know when we started working together those, those A and M kids were just, we were struggling bad or I was struggling, I should say.

Kyle Yeomans (27:35)

And.

Tommy Yarish (27:35)

But Nick Scorton was that guy that was. Seemed like to me that he was a lot higher than where he is right now.

Voch Lombardi (27:41)

Go ahead. Time. I got four names.

Brian Broadus (27:42)

He was the guy that, well, he was the guy that when he transferred A and M from Purdue was kind of like a top 10 guy we're talking about. And you look at that A and M defensive line scored and Stewart, Shemar Turner in the middle and it just kind of didn't live up to the expectation, I don't think for the Aggies this past year, you know, people will say, oh, well, you're a Texas guy. You're just saying that. So to counter that, everybody in my family went to.

Voch Lombardi (28:07)

Nobody said that.

Tommy Yarish (28:08)

Everybody in my family went to A and M. So yeah, I'm saying that.

Brian Broadus (28:12)

For everybody who says, oh, Tommy's a Texas homer, sure. But I also think the player that's dropped the most is Cam Williams, the tackle from Texas.

Tommy Yarish (28:20)

Yeah.

Brian Broadus (28:21)

I mean, this is a guy who in the middle of the season, even really early on in this draft process when we were talking, people were mocking him as a first round pick. And I was like, I don't see it like this guy, he's got holding penalties all the time. He's, I mean, the size that he's got is. You can't match that. Six, seven, just big dude who can. When he moves his feet and he gets his hands on you, it's hard to get past him. But he doesn't. He's still kind of learning the game of football. I think we talked to him at Texas pro day. He said that, you know, when he got to Texas, he didn't really know Very much about the game of football. And when he played at Duncanville High School here in the Dallas Fort Worth area, it was more of just he was so big that high school kids weren't able to get around him. And at Texas, it was more or less the same thing. You're obviously just playing against better players, but when you've got a guy like that, he sat two years behind. Oh, my gosh, I'm bringing Christian Jones. When he was playing right tackle at Texas, he sat behind him, got the time to develop, but I feel like he could have benefited from another year at Texas. And I think you're kind of starting to see that the NFL waters are reflecting that maybe he got some, you know, buzz early that, hey, you could be a first round pick. His teams are going to bank on your size and your potential. But, you know, you watch the film and there's just some things that he doesn't really do very well yet. You can't teach the size and, you know, the, the what he's got physically. But from a technical standpoint, I think there's still a lot of room to grow and I think teams are kind of opening their eyes to that.

Kyle Yeomans (29:44)

Somebody did say the Texas bias in this show is unbelievable and hilarious. So I'm looking right at you.

Voch Lombardi (29:51)

They got 15 traffics, dog.

Kyle Yeomans (29:53)

The Cowboys could end up taking good players, guy, like every round.

Tommy Yarish (29:57)

You'd be fine. I'll tell you what, you could have the first three rounds of Texas drafts and you would be just fine.

Kyle Yeomans (30:02)

Golden. Yeah. Then you get Collins and Makuba, something like that.

Tommy Yarish (30:06)

Just fine.

Kyle Yeomans (30:06)

I'd be totally fine with all that.

Tommy Yarish (30:08)

Sorry.

Brian Broadus (30:08)

Better football.

Kyle Yeomans (30:09)

Not a Texas guy either. So. Okay, all right. You said you had four names. I've got a couple after you.

Voch Lombardi (30:14)

Yeah, roughly, man. You know, when we, when we first, you know, back in January. Yeah, the, the first thing we do is we run to Brugala, man. Shouts out to Dame, man.

Kyle Yeomans (30:22)

And I was, beast is out, by the way.

Voch Lombardi (30:24)

The beast is out. Go and go get it, pay for it. Or do the athletic thing and go do it. But the first thing on Dane's list, like the first seven names, like Will Johnson was like the third guy. All the A and M kids, they was like five and six back to back with each other. Jalen Walker was like five up in there. I was like, all right. And then I watch film on those guys and I was like, they some cool players. Some of them are third round guys, some of them are second round guys, my boy. Some of them a little Later. And I just think the draft process kind of does that. They just weed all these guys out. Kelvin Banks, I saw one thing where he was like the first overall guy because he was the best offensive lineman there. And hey, Kelvin Banks, he, you know, gets a little injury and he has a little bad film later on the seats. Texas bias, he has some. Some bad film later in the season. And Kelvin Banks kind of tumbles a little bit. Kelvin Banks may be a guy that goes in the 20s or something right.

Tommy Yarish (31:15)

Now, 21st on my board, kind of.

Voch Lombardi (31:16)

Kind of based on where he's at. So a lot of these guys, they tumble because some brand new film comes out. Brand, brand, brand new film is important. You watching film. Keep watching film highlights right here. Take a look at them. So, yeah, just six or seven guys, they're just going to fall just by way of how the draft just works. But I don't think that that's their fault. I just think that they get these way too early top 100 lists and they kind of get, you know, put up there. But the film always, you know, film always let you know where to go.

Kyle Yeomans (31:44)

Yeah. One more to kind of add to the list. I actually pulled up a couple of 20, 24 way too early mock drafts just to see it. Like those people that just throw them out there just to throw names. There were three mock drafts that I looked at.

Voch Lombardi (31:59)

Ali Gordon. My bad.

Kyle Yeomans (32:00)

Ollie Gordon is up there. Yeah, that was one of the names. But how about Colston Loveland from Michigan? He was in the top 15 picks in three of these mock drafts that I pulled up. He's still a good player. I have him in the late second. Yeah, but the fact that he's not even remotely in that first round, love. And he's kind of the second or third or tight end on your board, compared to maybe some of those, I.

Tommy Yarish (32:23)

Think Mason Taylor's a better player. I mean, there's your LSU bias right there. But I, I've said this all along about Mason Taylor. I watched him play for three years at lsu and, And Loveland is a nice player. But Mason Taylor, he was. When LSU needed an absolute play, he was the guy that went to. And LSU has a bunch of talented wide receivers, but they throw the ball to this kid and he. And he absolutely goes and gets it. So, you know, but yeah, Loveland was a great example of guy. And I think Vash is right. I think the media, scouts, we all kind of look at a list and we start off with this list, and then all of a sudden it's like, wait a minute now, once you really start diving in and the film starts coming in, you're like, well, they're not as good as the players we saw here. And then, you know, that's when you kind of question yourself. But in reality, though, then the NFL scouts that kind of get into the mix and they start to say, well, you're right about that, that this guy really isn't as high as where he was initially.

Voch Lombardi (33:18)

Yeah, Donovan Edwards was another one.

Kyle Yeomans (33:20)

That's a good one, too. Running back, Michigan. Same kind of thing as. Same as Ollie Gordon had an incredible 20, 23 was unbelievable there, and then just kind of fell off and he's. I think both of those guys have been hurt by the group that is coming out at running back, too. You have so many names kind of thrown out there that it does ultimately affect it. All right, this is kind of a question. I want to direct this toward Broadus here. Any chance. This is from Jacob. Any chance that they would check with Dak Prescott in the golden McMillan preference debate, since there might be a split of opinion?

Tommy Yarish (33:55)

They've always, Jerry Jones likes to solicit opinions. And so, yeah, the most famous one was our. Was Troy Aikman took that LSU tight end that didn't work out here in the first round. So, you know. Yeah, you know, I, you know, they'll, they'll. Maybe they run names by, you know, a lot of these players are pretty hip on understanding, you know, who the, who the players are in college football. These guys, you know, they know college football, they watch college football. And so, you know, with Dak, he probably has an understanding. I mean, maybe they've kind of explained to him that, hey, we really, really like these receivers. And maybe he had an opportunity to meet him when they came in. You know, these guys came in for 30 visits and he got to know him a little bit. But sure, you know, you may be running by you just, but he wouldn't say, listen, hey, who do you. Who is your preference here? You know, maybe Dak on his own wanted to come in and sit down and what receivers you got here and watch a little tape with a coach or watch a tape with some scouts or whatever and kind of get an idea about it. But sure, you would, you would ask him, but you wouldn't say, okay, we're going to draft the guy that you tell us to draft based on you and you alone. Yeah, quarterback's always going to get the opportunity. And Dax, kind of the guy that would probably want to know, he would probably want to know. Okay, who are they talking about here? You know, and get an idea of that.

Kyle Yeomans (35:11)

Yeah, this is from G, and this is kind of opening a door to a conversation we had off the air that I would like to get into.

Tommy Yarish (35:18)

The floor was tight end, by the way.

Kyle Yeomans (35:20)

Oh, was he?

Tommy Yarish (35:20)

Yeah.

Kyle Yeomans (35:21)

G wants to know Tet and Golden are gone at 12. So the. Wow. Receiver off the board. How far do you trade back and what's the pick?

Voch Lombardi (35:30)

I don't trade back.

Tommy Yarish (35:31)

Okay.

Voch Lombardi (35:31)

I just. I just. I just take Membu because my. My phone's not ringing and ain't nobody trading up to come get Mike Green or nothing. So I'm just gonna take the best player on my board.

Kyle Yeomans (35:41)

Tell me why the phone's not ringing.

Voch Lombardi (35:42)

Cause the phone probably just don't ring. Like. Like if. If the. If the phone is ringing, it's likely ringing for somebody that's there that they wanna come get. So a tougher question is like, okay, McMillan is there, but Seattle wants them. Do you draft McMillan or do you let them come up and take them and get their, like, their picks? Like, that's a real trade back there, right? You don't get wiped out. And the best player on the board is, I don't know, coast and Loveland and go, all right, I'm just gonna hit the button and trade back, and they gonna draft right here where I don't wanna draft, and they gonna give me their picks where both of us wanna draft. I don't think it's realistic. I think it's much more realistic to go, damn, we wiped out. Who's next? Like, who do we draft? And you may have to draft a guy that you, you know, didn't walk in excited about, but just take the pick and just run with it.

Tommy Yarish (36:32)

Yeah. I think you always have to be able to have the flexibility of understanding that somebody is going to trade ahead of you. You have to be prepared. You can't, you know, and let's. Let's go back to the Travis Frederick draft. I don't think they were necessarily prepared that their player was going to come off the board in that draft. And then that's why they blew the hatches and went for the bottom of the ocean there, you know, and got the third round pick, you know, but they were prepared for when, you know, when Ryan Shazier was taken ahead of him, they were ready to go. Like, you know, and then even Jerry tried to kind of derail things with Johnny Manziel. Talk on the clock and Stephen and Will, and then, you know, Jason Garrett at the time said, no, this is how we have them stacked. And that's why you have them stacked. That is why you definitely have. I don't think you can wipe Dallas out at 12, to be honest with you. I really don't. Because, like I say, there could be a situation where, you know, you can. You could take, like, Mimbu is. It would be a great. That would be a great pick. You know, me personally, I think that Josh Simmons would be a great pick if he was there. Those offensive tackles, there's a couple of these guys like that. But to me, I, you know, it's trading back. Is it, people? It's really. Like I say, when I. When I came in here, I was talking about. For. For 13 drafts, I sat there and watched the phone not ring. You know, folks, it's not that easy. This isn't Madden. This isn't. And I think we get kind of. Sometimes we get spoiled in draft simulator thing, the mock drafts, the mock drafts that we think, oh, we could automatically trade back and somebody's going to come get our picks.

Kyle Yeomans (38:02)

Yeah.

Tommy Yarish (38:03)

You know, I ran a draft in Philly in 98, and I told the guys in the room and the ladies that were in there, I said, I go, you want me to let this phone wait for the phone? I waited seven minutes, and then we handed that pick in, you know, and I had the 11th pick of the draft, you know, and I said, well, let's take our guy and let's go. And that was it, you know, so it. The phone, and the Cowboys are not going to pick up the phone. They told you, they tell you that they feel like if you're picking up the phone or they're picking up the phone, they're probably losing the trade. So I don't see them. I don't see them trading now. Could they trade one or two spots? Sure.

Voch Lombardi (38:36)

Yeah.

Tommy Yarish (38:36)

But you think they're going to, you know, blow the hatches and go all the way to the bottom of the ocean again? I. I don't know about that. Yeah, yeah.

Brian Broadus (38:42)

And I'm with Vaj with the Membu pick. And, you know, one of the things that, you know, I listen to a lot of what Brian's advice, just because he's been doing this for so long, and one of the things he told me when we started this was, if you like the player, take him.

Tommy Yarish (38:56)

Yeah.

Brian Broadus (38:56)

And I think you look at a guy like a mech.

Tommy Yarish (38:59)

Eg Buka. Yeah, yeah, there you go.

Brian Broadus (39:01)

You could fit that mold. And, you know, you might not be.

Kyle Yeomans (39:04)

The most exciting pick.

Tommy Yarish (39:05)

Right.

Brian Broadus (39:05)

You may not say, oh, 12's too rich. And you know, I would agree. I think if you can trade back and pick up more capital for him, that would be preferred. But you look at, you know, the fact that this guy was the robin to so many Batmans at Ohio State and he left that university as the school's all time leading receiver. When you've got guys like Chris Carter that played there, I mean, that's just phenomenal to me.

Tommy Yarish (39:28)

Terry Glenn.

Brian Broadus (39:28)

Yeah, I think that's, that's unbelievable. And so, you know, you think about the trajectory of that program and obviously Scott, the player, not the helmet, but this guy is a savvy route runner. He gets open quick and if you lose your guys and, and McMillan and Golden, you say, okay, we really feel like we need a wide receiver here. I don't think a book is a bad pick at all.

Kyle Yeomans (39:48)

Yeah, I think if he would end up being the pick at 12, then we are looking across the hall and saying they have a massive need at wide receiver. They had to.

Brian Broadus (39:58)

Absolutely.

Kyle Yeomans (39:59)

They felt like they had in the conversation that we had in the opening segment of we can maybe stretch this thing to 44. They probably didn't think at that point if he, if Igbo's the pick, that means they couldn't stretch it past 12. That meant that they had looked at their scenarios, it has to be 12 and that's what would happen. I don't think we would sit here and be upset about Abuka being the pick. May just say they were wiped out and they needed to fill a need and they went for need over bpa. There's probably going to be a player higher on my board than Amica Buka at that point in time, but you still feel pretty good about the pick because it fits in your system and if you like the player you pick.

Tommy Yarish (40:35)

Well, I've, I've kind of tried to cheerlead for this thing though. To me, give me the player that is, has the ability, is healthy and then also the character stuff.

Kyle Yeomans (40:46)

Yeah.

Tommy Yarish (40:46)

And that's why I've championed, that's why I champion Ashton Genty. You know, I champion that type of player. This guy might be second on the board. When you start to talk about the top guys, that kind of does, has all those things. I mean there's, there's guys that these, these corners that we're talking about banged up, you know, they're all the great players. This kid right here has played in a ton of big games. I wouldn't feel terrible about picking him. Yeah, I see why they brought him in. You know, like I say, I don't think you're wiped out if you're taking this guy because he. He fits the things that I'm asking for a guy that I want to pick in the top of the board. The character, the health and the ability. He's got all three of those.

Brian Broadus (41:30)

And I could. I think you could also look at this. Kind of changed my perspective doing the group chat article that we've Got on Dallas Cowboys.com Cowboys only have five defensive tackles on their roster right now.

Voch Lombardi (41:41)

Yeah.

Brian Broadus (41:42)

So is that something where, you know, if we're talking about positions of need and they feel like, okay, we have a need, we need to fill this gap. Take Grant in the first round. Is. Is Grant there? Is. Do you think about Derek Harmon from Oregon?

Voch Lombardi (41:54)

Yeah.

Brian Broadus (41:55)

You know, is. If Mason Graham drops or something. I'm really high on Walter Nolan. If Walter Nolan was the pick at 12, I would be happy with that. But, you know, is that a position where it's just. There's so many things they could do, and it just comes down to, okay, do they feel like. And they've said this, you know, publicly to the media, but behind closed doors, it could always be different. Do they feel like they have done enough in free agency that they can actually go and take the best player available when pick number 12 comes?

Tommy Yarish (42:23)

Well, the thing about it, though, Tommy, is they've got so many needs.

Brian Broadus (42:25)

Right?

Tommy Yarish (42:26)

I mean, it's like. It's not like they're. They're folk. They could focus on just one thing. But, you know, this draft, in a lot of ways, kind of sets up for them at the positions. The depth at corner, the depth at wide receiver, the depth at running back, the depth at defensive tackle. You know, they just got to find a way to navigate this thing the right way and make sure. And that's why I asked you guys the other day about which. Which position would you eliminate if you didn't have a four, you know, which. You don't. You don't have a four, but you got four needs right off the jump that we can think about. You know, which position would you eliminate? So, yeah, I think I. Like I said, I think they'll be fine here. I don't. I don't worry about. I really don't worry about the first three rounds here. I really don't.

Kyle Yeomans (43:08)

It's after that where I start to worry. The fifth round and six round and where they have a ton of picks. I Would love for them to package and get back into the fourth, because once we get to the fifth, that's when things get dicey. All right, final question for Twitter. On the 20, you mentioned Kelvin Banks Jr. Out of Texas. Somebody wanted to know this. Just says just a dude on Twitter.

Tommy Yarish (43:26)

What up?

Voch Lombardi (43:26)

A dude?

Kyle Yeomans (43:27)

Call you dude? Production is a big deal in most cases. Kelvin Banks has tremendous offensive line production against some. Some of the college games. Best defensive stars. Why is he dropping. He even used the hashtag. What gives? Why would Banks be dropping outside of the top 15 picks, per se?

Julian Edelman (43:45)

He.

Voch Lombardi (43:45)

Probably because he kind of got hurt and he didn't finish the season all that well. But. And it may not be anything bad why he failed. It may just be that all the guys around him, they just went up, and he just didn't go up.

Tommy Yarish (43:58)

Yeah, yeah. See, we got. We didn't get to the risers through the draft. I think our guy, the Missouri tackle that we were just talking about, Mimbu, was one of these guys that he. I think he started off somewhere probably in the 20s, maybe the late 20s, and then all of a sudden, I've seen him as high as New England at.

Voch Lombardi (44:17)

For.

Tommy Yarish (44:18)

You know, so that's. He went from being a guy that was down near the bottom of the board to being. And so you have other guys, and then, you know, the people answer the questions about Will Campbell. They said, you know, so you've got. You've got tackles. Me personally, you know, I love. I keep saying this. I love Josh Simmons. I think they like Josh Simmons, too. So to me, you have three or four tackles that. That probably are better than. Or people are evaluating better than what Banks is right now.

Voch Lombardi (44:47)

Golden Mimboo. Guys like Booker just. Just rising. Just getting better over the process or whatever.

Kyle Yeomans (44:55)

Banks and Campbell were both there from the beginning. They were up there already.

Tommy Yarish (44:59)

Yeah.

Kyle Yeomans (44:59)

So you end up just kind of evening out because you have guys that jump above them. Doesn't mean they did anything specific.

Voch Lombardi (45:05)

Guys like Mike Green just jumped him a little bit. He just gets bumped down the board is what it is.

Kyle Yeomans (45:10)

Yeah.

Tommy Yarish (45:11)

All right.

Brian Broadus (45:11)

The era of me trying to step away from my Texas.

Kyle Yeomans (45:13)

Hey, man, we're putting it right there.

Voch Lombardi (45:15)

Say something bad about it right now.

Brian Broadus (45:16)

Banks is. Banks is a top. He's number five for me overall.

Voch Lombardi (45:20)

Phenomenal. He's incredible.

Brian Broadus (45:22)

He's. He's. He's OT one for me, of course. And I've got. I've got.

Voch Lombardi (45:26)

You got a lot. You got a lie at this point.

Tommy Yarish (45:29)

Will Campbell or something.

Brian Broadus (45:30)

I've Got. I've got. I've got.

Tommy Yarish (45:31)

I got Will Campbell as number one.

Voch Lombardi (45:33)

Kevin Banks. He's good. You got a lot, man. Right.

Kyle Yeomans (45:36)

No, he, I. I put a camera on time.

Voch Lombardi (45:38)

Go ahead.

Tommy Yarish (45:38)

Yeah, go.

Brian Broadus (45:40)

No, we can keep the film on. It's all good. That's just going to back my point up. No, I, I mean, I think this is one of those things where, you know, sometimes when we get late in this process, and this is. This is my first time doing the draft thing, but I've noticed it in the past is as time goes on, I think naturally, you know, when the guys rise up, people just kind of overthink. Some of these guys who started the year off as these one and two guys, like Banks and Campbell, I mean, Campbell stayed pretty steadfast. He's going to be a top 10 pick, more than likely, and rightfully so. But, you know, Banks is a guy that. I've said it before. His second career game. He shuts down Will and Anderson as a true freshman in college and stayed healthy for most of his career at Texas and got banged up down the stretch, made an effort to come back and play against, you know, he. He's trying to get on the field to try and stop Mikel Williams and Jalen Walker when they tore him apart in. In the first time that they played in the regular season. So this is a guy that. That checks all the boxes for you.

Tommy Yarish (46:35)

He.

Brian Broadus (46:36)

You can play him at tackle. I feel like you could play him at guard and he could step up there. He'd be willing to do that. Really athletic. Moves his feet very well.

Kyle Yeomans (46:44)

Knee bend.

Brian Broadus (46:45)

Knee bend. When you get him in space and moving, he can. He can make. He can make people. People lay out on the ground and more than likely not get up. And so he plays physical and does well as an athlete, too. Just. I've got him. I think he's the most athletic tackle in this draft behind Membu. So there's a lot to like with Banks, and I think it's one of those things where as the process goes on, you just kind of start to overthink a little bit and forget how good some of these players are. I think there was a point in time where McMillan was that way, and now people are kind of starting to get back on track of, like, okay, yeah, wait, this guy's like a top 10 player in this class. And so, you know, you wonder if that's a guy that even gets to 12 now for Dallas.

Kyle Yeomans (47:23)

So I'm going to be excited when, like, Chicago takes banks at 10. And we're like, Tommy's going to be like, I see.

Brian Broadus (47:29)

I told you in our magazine mock. I've got. That's where you got 10 to the bears. I think the Bears need a left tackle desperately, and he'd be a great fit. They're all about restructuring the offensive line. Ben Johnson picked up a pretty athletic tackle named Penne Sewell, and in Detroit, that worked out pretty well. You get yours and Banks on the left side, and you protect Caleb Williams so he doesn't get sacked a million times.

Kyle Yeomans (47:50)

Yeah.

Tommy Yarish (47:51)

And then Bots is going to remind you that teams suck at drafting.

Voch Lombardi (47:53)

They terrible at this. They are terrible.

Kyle Yeomans (47:55)

I can't wait for that all weekend.

Voch Lombardi (47:56)

I'm a YouTuber and I'm going to be even better. Look, though, the teams are so bad at this, and I'm not just saying it's just, like, hate on team. Like, you can go find a record, but you can also, like, find ours. Like, nobody thought Cleveland Farrell was the fourth overall. Y' all bad at this. Keep being bad, though, because my team needle. My team need these guys.

Kyle Yeomans (48:14)

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Yeah, you got a couple, like, horns up there. All right, when we come back, I want to hit interior defensive line, offensive line in the same scenario that we painted in that first segment of the show. How late would you be comfortable taking these specific positions of need for the Dallas Cowboys? Coming up right after this. On the other side of the break.

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Voch Lombardi (53:16)

I would love to get one in the second round. That'll be lovely because I think all those guys are really good, like Grant Williams, Harmon, you know. But that's probably not going to work out for me. But I'm just looking at my third round guys. C.J. west, Phillips, Peebles, Collins. Some. Some people got Collins as a round two guy. I got him in the third and that's all right. And Farmer, Josh Farmer, he's. He's one of the last guys I think that can come in and I'll just say push Mozzie. You know what I'm saying? Of course there's a bunch of guys that can push. Who's second guy? Justin Rogers. There's some guys that can. That can push Justin. But just me looking at my forefront round, the one one Tech guy that I have in there is Caldwell from Oregon.

Brian Broadus (53:59)

Yeah.

Tommy Yarish (54:00)

Yeah, that's. I was. I was going to ask you about that because that to me, I kind of draw the line at the one.

Voch Lombardi (54:05)

Yeah.

Tommy Yarish (54:05)

Technique there. You have Cam Horsely. You have them higher or lower than that.

Voch Lombardi (54:10)

I got Horsley in the high fifths.

Tommy Yarish (54:11)

Okay. So yeah, I mean that to me, I kind of. I kind of look at Caldwell as the guy that I would. Would draw the line at. And then I'm kind of thinking about in the. For the. And that's a. For a one technique. But on the. On the three. The three side of things maybe go down Peggies might be the guy from Ole Miss that I'm kind of thinking that, you know. But there's some guys, like I say that the Riley Mills and stuff like that from Notre Dame, Ty Robinson. I think Ty Robinson needs to like lose weight and kind of play. But. But I, I kind of feel like that maybe that, that, that, that Peggies is a three and then Caldwell as a one would be that for me.

Brian Broadus (54:53)

Yeah, I like Caldwell a lot. I think the. I think Caldwell and Collins from Texas would be the perfect fits for Dallas in terms of, hey, we just need you to come in and stop the run like that. That's what those two guys did well. Collins at Texas and then Caldwell at both Houston and Oregon. So that's good fit. So I, I think that would be as far back as. As I would want to go. Just because you look at this team like defensive tackles on the roster right now, this is a position where they need some help. We talked about Robinson on Tuesday show. I like him a lot. You know, obviously he's. He's probably more of a three guy and more of a five gap potentially guy too. I'm not as high on Williams from Ohio State, but if you can get him in the. In a value spot, I think he'd be good.

Voch Lombardi (55:38)

What do you mean? Like a value spot for Williams from Ohio State. Ty Leaf Williams from Ohio.

Tommy Yarish (55:42)

What do you mean? If.

Brian Broadus (55:43)

If people see him like I see I have him in the third. If he drops to the third, I think I'm comfortable with that. I know that's why.

Voch Lombardi (55:49)

Why would he drop to the third though? Time I.

Brian Broadus (55:52)

So when I watch him, I see really strong, but he doesn't move his feet.

Kyle Yeomans (55:57)

You don't.

Brian Broadus (55:58)

I. I don't see it. And maybe I could be wrong. This could be one where I'm. I'm kicking myself when we come back here next year. But I think he is just reliant too much on his strength and not as much moving laterally. Obviously. He does a good job stopping the run, but struggles to get pushed. The line of scrimmage against inferior competition makes up for it by getting by blockers and bringing down ball carriers. Gets in the quarterback's face pretty well and has his hands up to knock down passes. Not a huge threat as a pass rusher. Not that they need that. The Cowboys at a one tech spot. But I don't know. I was. I watched him twice. I did kind of what everybody does where it's like, okay, let me see if I saw this guy right?

Voch Lombardi (56:36)

And Time was sipping that whiskey when he was watching. He was on that Jameson when he was watching.

Kyle Yeomans (56:40)

You're really high on Tyler.

Voch Lombardi (56:41)

I love Tylee.

Kyle Yeomans (56:42)

Where do you have him?

Voch Lombardi (56:43)

I got him in the second round.

Tommy Yarish (56:43)

I got him the second round.

Kyle Yeomans (56:44)

Second round.

Voch Lombardi (56:45)

Like a true second round guy. Like not like a second round that'll go 18 or something like that. Like he's a guy that'll middle of the second, right around the 40s and 50s. So Tommy got him halfway. Like he is strong as all get out. But I think that he moves a little better than I think Tommy's giving a little bit of credit for. There's many plays where they're running some outside zone stuff and he's hustling and shoveling his ass over there to get those plays. So that's the one thing that I kind of, you know, I'm just. Look at his big boy just running all over the place. Look, he's a one take, so he's not gonna be a full blown pass rusher. He's more of a pocket pushing, you know, kind of guy. Whatever. But as far as like run down lateral athleticism or whatever, let him run over there and you know, do some, do some B gap, C gap things. I think he makes plays versus run all over the place. But that's where I got him, I got him in the second round. I'm gonna stand on that one. You know, Tommy, you my guy, put him in third. But you know, third round, man, I don't know man. Gonna be gone.

Tommy Yarish (57:42)

It's funny that I, I, I understand where you're going here, Tommy. I, I think this guy could play all the, the line positions. I think you could kind of move him even if you play like as a five technique as an end.

Kyle Yeomans (57:52)

They put him out there.

Tommy Yarish (57:54)

Yeah, head up in the guy that I feel like that I'm wrong about that I'm not high enough on is Collins from Texas. That's the guy in the third round where Vox is looking at me like you're nuts.

Voch Lombardi (58:04)

I'm. Which one it?

Tommy Yarish (58:05)

Yeah, in the third round.

Voch Lombardi (58:06)

Collins in the third.

Kyle Yeomans (58:07)

I've got him in the third too.

Tommy Yarish (58:08)

Yeah, okay. Everybody thinks that. I kind of feel like that Collins might be a guy that you have to, he might go late too or in the second round. I just don't know when the run of these guys is going to start. Yeah, there's going to be a run in this draft of these 320 pound defensive linemen and these tackles. And I wonder, I wonder if you're going to have to take Collins earlier than the third round.

Voch Lombardi (58:33)

See, Collins looks really good and he has all the things that the pro. He's a big Great moving, dude.

Tommy Yarish (58:39)

This guy's 334 pounds, by the way.

Voch Lombardi (58:41)

I just think, you know, Collins, Williams, Williams, Williams.

Kyle Yeomans (58:44)

Yeah.

Voch Lombardi (58:44)

Collins's hands get a little weird for me, like, like his technique. And I think he gets lost a little bit like in the, in the play. Like he's so focused on whooping the guy in front of him that he'll get, you know, lost with the run or whatever. But I think Williams is the opposite of that. Like, Williams will stack, shed find the ball, play the ball and they, they both can get a little high, a little bit. You know, pad level's a problem for a lot of the guys in this thing. But you know, just out of those two, I think Will is better technically, so that's why I give him the go. But Brian hates ceiling talk or whatever. But Collins has the much higher ceiling because Collins has a lot more room to grow.

Tommy Yarish (59:18)

Real quick. Then where you get Harmon in all this then?

Voch Lombardi (59:21)

Harmon.

Tommy Yarish (59:21)

Because see, Harmon is not a 330 pound guy. No, Harmon's 313. So I wondered is, you know, do you kind of see him as a one or do you see him more as a three?

Voch Lombardi (59:31)

I got him as a one that can play three.

Tommy Yarish (59:33)

Yeah, see, but I.

Voch Lombardi (59:35)

Athletic, moving, one that can play.

Tommy Yarish (59:37)

Yeah, the agility and stuff like that. So okay, I love Harmon.

Brian Broadus (59:41)

He's my third.

Tommy Yarish (59:42)

Okay.

Brian Broadus (59:43)

Behind Graham and Nolan and then Grant after Harmon.

Tommy Yarish (59:46)

Oh, Grant.

Voch Lombardi (59:48)

Yeah, you got Kenny. Grant after Harmon, after Harmon. Time. What's going on?

Kyle Yeomans (59:52)

Yeah, dude, what are you watching now?

Voch Lombardi (59:55)

You ain't getting cow.

Kyle Yeomans (59:55)

Yeah, Ty Lee, Williams and Collins are both in the early parts of the third for me. So I think either one of those guys touching tags, they're not going to be there at 76 in my opinion. Williams and Collins, when you're looking at, at attempting to take a starting defensive tackle, I think you've got to do it in 44, before 44. If you take anybody after that, it's a rotational piece, which I think you could be okay with, but it's not what you're trying to get. I like Peebles, I like some of these other guys like you mentioned, west from Indiana, Farmer from Florida. You can maybe get those guys at 76, but I think even that's going to be back to what Brian was saying, dependent on when this run happens because there will be a run where teams pair these defensive tackles, these big bodied guys. There's not a ton of guys like that that really stand out to me. It's a, it's a select list and I think because of that they're going.

Tommy Yarish (60:47)

To go pretty early. I know we have just a few minutes left here. Tommy, read Grant for me.

Brian Broadus (60:51)

Grant. Yeah, gotcha. Quick for his size, athletic sacrifices some of his power. Cause him to get pushed back at times, but he's still got plenty of ability to flatten somebody. Doesn't give up on the play even when he' double team and moved around. Gets his hands up and throwing window to bat down passes. I think he's a really good player. I just think Harmon can. Can do it all. I mean, you mentioned playing one Tech or three Tech. I mean he can line up anywhere. Gets after the passer, fills well and run gaps. Really good motor. He's strong at the line of scrimmage, moves his feet, keeps him active to, to keep pushing and keep the play alive. From his standpoint, I like. I mean, they're not that far apart. I don't think in terms of. I mean, like I said, they're touching tags for me. They're not that far apart. You know, I just, I like Harmon.

Voch Lombardi (61:34)

A little bit more.

Kyle Yeomans (61:35)

Where did you have him, Grant? Did you have him in the second Grant?

Brian Broadus (61:37)

Second? Yeah.

Kyle Yeomans (61:38)

Yeah. Okay. So yeah, you're just. You just like a guy better. So. Yeah, stand on your.

Tommy Yarish (61:42)

Your toes.

Brian Broadus (61:43)

I'm standing on. On all my takes here that I'm on an island here.

Voch Lombardi (61:46)

Tommy got to change his mind or nothing like that. He's just, he's just wrong.

Brian Broadus (61:50)

That's fine.

Kyle Yeomans (61:51)

We'll see down the line.

Brian Broadus (61:52)

If I'm wrong. That's fine. I'll own it. I'll follow on the sword. But I just. I don't know what it is.

Tommy Yarish (61:56)

You do this long enough, you'll be wrong a lot.

Kyle Yeomans (61:58)

Yeah, that's exactly if we're all wrong all the time. Walter Nolan, do you have him in a defensive tackle conversation or do you.

Brian Broadus (62:04)

Have him elsewhere in terms like.

Kyle Yeomans (62:06)

You mean like one Tech, three Tech.

Voch Lombardi (62:08)

He's a three for me.

Brian Broadus (62:08)

He's a three. Yeah, he's a three for me.

Kyle Yeomans (62:10)

So do you have them on a separate list or where do you have this?

Brian Broadus (62:12)

No, I got it all as one list. I've got Nolan as my second best defensive tackle behind Graham. And that's. That's been the case since we started.

Tommy Yarish (62:20)

You've been on that?

Brian Broadus (62:20)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he's just, just quick, powerful. You know, you don't see a lot from Nolan because they double team him all the time and he's got a. He's still getting through that. He's Been double team since he was the number one overall recruit coming out of high school a couple of years ago. And he went to that Texas A and M class, and it hasn't stopped since. You watch the old miss tape. It happened to him there. Texas A and M, for whatever reason, just didn't put him on the field. And that's why you saw the mass portal exodus that they had with all their players. Yeah, he's just an incredible player. Super athletic. Throws guys off of him, gets pressured through those double teams, fills the run. Well, I like this guy a lot.

Kyle Yeomans (62:53)

Let's do offensive line real quick. Where would be the latest you would take a starting offensive lineman?

Voch Lombardi (62:59)

Let's see. So I like Booker, Jackson, Zabel, Milam Radish. I like Lampton a little more than.

Kyle Yeomans (63:05)

You know, some guys that you have currently. Hey, man, you know, I'm talking about, like, starting.

Voch Lombardi (63:10)

I'm gonna. I'm gonna bump into Brock and he ain't gonna like me, man. But I think. I think Milam Radalis, Jackson, Zabel, Booker, push him. Lampkin's probably more of a. More of a center type guy, so he ain't pushing BB Connor. Kobe is probably what. What he is right now. So. Yeah, so it's like third round for.

Tommy Yarish (63:27)

Me for guard Miles Frazier, lsu, and here we go, home.

Voch Lombardi (63:31)

I like Miles Frazier, too, so Homerville.

Tommy Yarish (63:33)

And I know. And I. And I. I know there's some people. Jonah from Zona, Go Tiger. Another guy that people have kind of talked about. But I kind of. I kind of feel like that Miles Frazier from LSU would be kind of where I'm at on the starting guards. I know that there's a love for. For Caleb Rogers from Texas Tech, and so. Yeah, but I think Miles. I think we're talking about Miles Frazier here. I think he would be probably where I'm at as far as that last starting guy right now.

Voch Lombardi (64:00)

Powerful dude.

Brian Broadus (64:02)

I think the furthest back I would go, I've got Luke Kandra from Cincinnati. I've got him in the fourth. I think that would be the furthest back.

Kyle Yeomans (64:10)

So you feel like he could push somebody?

Brian Broadus (64:12)

I think. Good. Yeah. I like. I like Kendra a lot. I don't feel like we're talking about him enough.

Tommy Yarish (64:16)

Really good player.

Kyle Yeomans (64:17)

I've got him in the third. I like him a lot, too. I don't know if he would be a 76 possibility or not.

Brian Broadus (64:23)

He's kind of likely not.

Kyle Yeomans (64:24)

But I like him enough to be in that conversation. You've brought him up before. I've got the hook emoji next to him.

Tommy Yarish (64:30)

There you go.

Kyle Yeomans (64:31)

So I know you've brought him up. I like Jonah from Zona a lot. I think that would be the last name I have as a starting caliber. That's going to push the guy that you have right now, which would be Brock Hoffman in this case. And so I feel pretty good about either one of those guys. So you would have to do that, maybe any one of those top three picks. Either way, you're having to address some needs and you're going to have to do so early in the top 80 picks of this NFL draft. Things are going to get dicey coming up next week when the NFL draft gets underway on Thursday. That's going to do it for us here on the Draft Show. Special thanks to all those who tuned in and were engaged on the YouTube chat reminder tonight, Draft 101 from the Fan Showroom, 4131 North Central Expressway Expressway in Dallas. Come join us. Get some free Whataburger as Brian shirt shows you here. Got some whataburger to give out.

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