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Welcome to the Drop the Needle podcast, your backstage pass to the corporate jungle. I'm your host, Jim Alstatt. And here, industry titans step up to the mic sharing their epic journeys. We're hitting the high notes and the low notes of their careers, creating a symphony of success. This isn't just another interview show. It's where truth bombs are dropped and secrets are revealed. So grab your conductor's baton, because who knows? This just might help you compose the next huge hit of your career. Are you ready? Let's go. Hi, everyone, and welcome back to the Drop the Needle podcast. I'm your host, Jim Alstott. If you're just joining us, make sure you go back and check out part one of this powerful two part conversation. Last time, we explored Debbie Tatel's first experiences with something otherworldly biting her in the foot when she was just four years old. We also discussed how she began to pick up on the energies and thoughts of others around her. Debbie also shared her experiences as a grade school and psychic school student. Today, we're picking up right where we left off, diving even deeper into the realm of psychic mediumship, reading auras, and of course, our musical questions. So buckle up, buttercup, open your hearts, and let's keep this powerful conversation going. Okay, so you mentioned the auras before, and I wrote down a question, and I wanted to ask this for everyone out there. So they knew. Can auras change color?
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Yes.
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And what is it that causes the aura to change color?
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Wow, that's like in my clairvoyant development class, level three. But I will answer. It might not make any sense. Okay, so our chakras actually create our aura. Those little energy centers that are in the center of our body. To me, it's like a little projector. And we have different layers of our aura. Okay. And so there's a particular color and a vibration. And just for the record, when I look as a clairvoyant, every chakra can be a different color at any time. There's several teachings that say, oh, it's blue or oh, it's red. You know that the particular.
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Yeah. For the root chakra and the solar plexus yeah.
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Has to be a certain color. And how I answer to that is yes, the person who was reading that at the time kept seeing those colors.
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Right.
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So therefore they thought those maybe we're the only colors.
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Sure.
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Right. But we are all these creative dynamic beings. Right. So the chakras kind of project out the aura and then there you get the bands of color around you. So it depends on where you're working at any given time. As a soul, what are you working on in let's say the third layer with your energy distribution, Are you working on, you know, clearing your father out of your space and out of your gut and out of all those, all those spaces. And so it's going to reflect in. It might turn green. When you're working on that particular layer, it's however you as a creative soul are making it.
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This is gonna sound like a. A weird question.
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I'm a clairvoyant. There is just not much really weird.
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Okay. So I get. Yeah, I guess I gotta remember that. So I guess what I was started to think about when you were saying changing colors and different rings and things like that was the rainbow. Right. And so it's a refractor refracting. The light refracts, reflects and then causes that color. So then at the center of every chakra, is it then just clear and for everything else around it, then then causes or creates color.
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I am just going to say that clairvoyance can't be analyzed. And while I love that question, it's not a hard and fast. It's what you see when you look.
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So it's your perception, right.
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Or like if you're going to read me, it's going to be your hopefully in neutral enough to look and see. Oh, it's that color. Right. So everybody's got a different perspective. But none of this can be analyzed. So some of the questions, you know, when you ask me are just pure out of analyzer, which there's really no spirit in that. It's not that we don't use our intellect. Right. But that's not the essence. So everybody's essence is going to be for them and how they.
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Sure. No, and I, I hear what you're saying. I get what you're saying. I just was thinking about that and the image came to mind with the changing colors and then surroundings and different things like that. So that's where the image of the rainbow came out to me because it was just like this light is going through something but that chakra or what have you.
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So we don't have to have light going through. We are light. We're not even solid.
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Right. So the energy is each little.
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So the energy is the essence of what we are. Whatever that is, is a creative being. I can't answer that as a. As an analyzer question because there's no, like, you're asking about, let's say, the mechanics of it all, which is great, but how does the mechanics. I mean, I can teach you how to read, and sometimes the mechanics are needed, you know. Okay. This is how such and so works. But then there's another space where you get to look, and it's not about the mechanics.
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Sure. No, I get it.
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Yeah.
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So it's like somebody that can play the guitar and somebody who is an artist.
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Exactly.
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Yeah. Gotcha. That's. That's what you're saying.
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Or a dancer.
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Yeah, same thing. Same thing. You can do the steps, but you're not an artist. So.
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Right. There's that thing, the it. What do they call it? The it.
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Yep.
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And. And so it's kind of like that. Like we're all just. It's anyway.
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Yeah, right. That's right.
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You know, we're all these. I think Oprah said it first, but I adopted it for the longest time that we're spirit in a human suit.
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Right.
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So we're just pure light. This is why TV shows are so popular when you do, like in the sitcoms and they do. Something happened, right. Some big thing happened, and then they start to do it from each actor's perspective.
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Totally different.
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Each character, and they're totally different.
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Yes.
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And that is absolutely. This as well, which.
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Absolutely. That makes sense to me because it's. It's unique to you and everything that you're bringing to the party.
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Right.
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That's very cool.
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Exactly.
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So energy healing. What is it? What is energy healing?
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So I guess I should probably define healing and what. What that means, please. Because I alluded to it before in the disturbance, in the force. When I look at healing, it's all about returning or restoring to wholeness. That's my definition of healing, that I'm restoring something to its whole original state, to its original form.
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Okay.
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So when I look at energy healing, this is really fun. When I started out. And I will backtrack and give you a little story. So when I started out, I took, you know, meditation classes. And then what I really got into were the energy healing classes. Okay. And at that time, everything was in person, and I learned how to use my hands with the work of a healing guide to Literally comb through somebody's aura and move out the junk and run energy through their body, maybe their legs or their arms, and just clear it out. So what we're clearing is in order to return you to wholeness. Right, right. Because of all the space junk, so to speak, that you've picked up when you walk down the street.
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I think people can be a magnet for shit.
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We are a magnet. For sure. We're a magnet. But sometimes we start to believe that it's us.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And so when I talk about energy healing, or healing in general, but there's. There's different kinds, but it's really about clearing the junk and, and then helping remind you for the most part who you are. And disease, all disease, by the way, is dis. Ease. It's not. Yes, there's diseases that we consider. But if you look at a lot of this stuff as a clairvoyant, it's really interesting because it has its own consciousness.
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What does Diseases. Yeah. Okay.
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They have their own kind of vibration, their own resonance, which is not in resonance with our body, which must be.
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Why, like, the Carolyn Mays in the world can do the scan and they can feel where there's that little hiccup or skipping the record.
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Right.
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Is right. In those disturbances. Okay.
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And so most of the time we are all carrying around other people's. Like we've become responsible for other people's energy.
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Sure.
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We've become responsible for other people's experiences. We take on responsibility for all their pain. We feel bad for them, so we want to match them and be. And just take on their pain.
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So dangerous for empaths.
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So dangerous for empaths. Yep.
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Wow.
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We really sure, you know, we recycle.
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That shit over and over and over.
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Yeah, exactly. And so, you know, when, when you asked me earlier, and I don't mean the laugh is just when you asked me earlier, when did you first know? And I was like, I don't know. I was just in pain.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You know, and many psychic children are in pain. Not so much now because it just seems like it's. It's much more readily available.
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What, the knowledge or the knowledge out there.
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And there's. There's little books, you know, I was. I was reading A Wrinkle in Time and Think and going. That's true.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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You know, it's. It's interesting. So I'm in the process of putting a book together and recounting some things that have happened over my lifetime from my eyes today versus my eyes then which are the views completely different. Right, Right. Just like your view is completely different than it was 30 years ago. Doing something or looking at something with.
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All the readings I do.
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Right.
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My view is different sometimes, every couple days, because I get some new perspective, some new nuanced thought about it.
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That's got to keep everything very fresh that way and interesting. And you just kind of dialed in to that and wanting more. I mean, that's. I guess I just. I say that from my perspective on that because there's that interest and that desire to get more, and it's not from like a. An adrenaline junkie type of thing. It's like, that's so cool. I want to understand more about it. I want to see more of it so I can.
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I want to look at this. Like, that's really a huge thing. I went down the rabbit hole of curious clairvoyant. I was using curious clairvoyant a lot. I feel like I am, is. I'm. I'm a clairvoyer. I'm not going to look at you. I'm not going to read your mind. I don't want to, like, invade your. Your. Your inner sanctum, so to speak. Right. But I am absolutely a curious clairvoyant.
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Mine's pretty messy. Come on in.
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Come on in. Right.
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You. You might be a little freaked out, but. No, I'm just teasing.
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No, I've heard you before. Yeah, I haven't gotten freaked out yet.
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Yeah, well, that's good. Good, good.
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Yeah.
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So I want to also talk about wellness alchemy, because I experienced that a few days ago. But what I'd really like you to do is maybe briefly lay out to everyone what it is. And also I think more importantly, or not even more importantly, but equally important is let's say that someone were to say, hey, I heard this on the podcast. I wanted wellness Alchemy. I want to know about it. What is. What am I. What should I expect?
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Well, I don't know about expect, but I can tell you exactly what it is. And I. I kind of brought out a couple of my. I brought out kind of the mission statement and the creed.
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Yeah.
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Just to kind of go over it. But first, I will say it's called a Wellness Alchemy medical intuitive session. For years, I have seen certain things in people's bodies, but I didn't know what they were. So now I'm actually going down the rabbit hole to doing some almost medical type studies about it and where we hold energy in our body. Right. And that's what you experienced the other day. And I do want to bring it back to that for one second, you know, because wasn't it interesting how in that session we, because I had a colleague with me, but we saw things. You had any brought up. You said, oh, my back's bugging me.
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Yeah.
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And then I was like, oh, but your hips and your. And you said, oh, yeah, my sciatica.
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Yeah, yeah, sciatica replaced hips.
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Yeah, yeah. And, and, but we got right in there.
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Yeah, that was, it was very interesting. And I think I.
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And there were a couple other things you kind of, you kind of said as well. And that's the beauty of this is somebody can come and have, you know, say, oh, it's this. So that's the beauty of some of these healings is we don't know what we don't know.
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Right? Yeah, that's. That's absolutely true.
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Also we don't know what's relevant. Also we don't know what we're holding on to in our bodies. Right. It's in there. And then suddenly, you know, we have to have our gallbladder removed or you know, there's issues with the liver or something. All of that is energy. So in the Wellness Alchemy medical intuitive session, and I mean this is separate from my other readings, I do, you know, regular readings, but this is something, something brand new. It's, it's a program that I'm, that I'm taking and I will be a certified medical intuitive after that. So, so it's very cool. But, but the healings are just phenomenal. But I'll read you the. I would the. I guess I'll read you the mission statement first. I don't think I had read that to you because we were setting the energy for your healing.
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Right.
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But the mission statement is Wellness Alchemy's mission is to help people wake up to what they already know. That as spirit we all have innate abilities of self healing or without measure just waiting to be uncovered. It's our mission to heal and to teach others to break the bonds of the atheist energies, which invalidates the self healing powers we possess. And that's very poignant. Atheist energy. Atheist energy is not about, oh, I don't believe in going to church or the priest or the rabbi or whatever. Atheist energy basically says spirit doesn't exist. There is no such thing as spirit. Podbean, your message amplified.
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Launch your podcast on podbean today. And so many times, atheist energy is what gets in the way when we're not. When we're saying, oh, not everything is energy. Oh, everything is just this, this physical body that has to have surgery and 8 million pills and, you know, whatever. And by the way, for the record, I'm not telling you to stop taking your medication. Stop taking your medication. I'm not telling you not to go to your doctor. In fact, we have a big disclaimer that I am not a medical doctor. And also, medication is miracles.
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Yeah.
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But if we can clear these in a. In healing, in this, in this session. Right. And it's going to go along with whatever your doctor is telling you. And we're going to make some suggestions. I think, I don't remember. What did we tell you? Magnesium.
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Yeah, magnesium was one of them or something like. Yeah, no, magnesium. It's exactly it.
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Yeah. And do you remember what your response was?
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I have some.
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And I have, I have some and I, I should be taking, I should be taking it.
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Yes, that's exactly. Yeah, yes, I do.
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That. That was the answer. And so I think we have our knowing this, and then suddenly somebody comes up with something. You go, you know, I have that. And, and it was recommended to take it or, you know, whatever the case might be. And, and, and then, But I wasn't taking.
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Is funny for, for that specifically. Nobody ever told me that I should take it. I was looking for, I was looking for vitamins and I saw magnesium and I was like, huh? And I started to read about it and I was like, yeah, I'm gonna get that. And so I did. Started taking it and stopped just. Well, I'll also be the first to say that I am so guilty if I receive antibiotics from a doctor that they say take it for, you know, the entire two weeks. I stop at about day four because I'm tired of taking the medication, you know. Yeah, I, you're right. I think ultimately what ends up happening is, you know, eight and a half times out of 10, with the exception, you know, being the sinus infection coming back, things go away and you do get healed. And maybe it is just that little nudge from the antibiotics sometimes. Who, I don't know. I'm. I'M not a doctor, nor am I an energy healer. So I.
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Well, look, we. We don't know, but the. The bottom line is that we all have an ability. And. And this is, you know, this is where the creed comes in. This is what you actually. Specifically.
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Yes.
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Kind of asked me to bring up. Because you heard the creed, which is, we believe that each one of us had a part in the creation of our body. That available to each of us as spirit, is the intuitive knowledge to heal our body when we open that door. We believe that disease and physical challenges are a pathway to learn and grow as spirit, and that fear and ignorance need not keep us from the blessings we find as we heal ourselves as immortal souls. We're all part of the Supreme Being, and that is the part of us we remember when we create healing miracles.
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I love that's. That's a great creed. So it reminded me of in the creed, and I think this is why I. I also liked it the first time I heard it in. When. When people are making their soul contracts before coming back down to earth, sometimes they make. They make a request to be in a body that has a handicap, something like that. So there's a lesson in it. Could be humility, could be overcoming adversity. It could be a number of different things. Or maybe it's to teach unconditional love to a parent.
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You know, maybe it's their psychic abilities. Correct. Because they don't have physical abilities.
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Right. It could be a number of things, but it's. It's interesting to me that I wonder why the recollection of that is wiped clean.
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The. Oh, the soul.
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Well, yeah, when you. When you make that do, you're up there with your. Your soul team, and you're saying, okay, well, you. You're ready to go. Let's. Let's go. What do you want to do? Well, I want to do this, this, and this. I want to make sure that I do this. And. Okay, here you go. You sure? Yep. Let's go. And you don't remember it.
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Well, you can. You can remember it when you clear enough energy to actually retrieve that information. That information's still there. It's in your acacia. It's in your akashic records.
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Okay?
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So you have that. That information is there. You just don't remember it. Because, first of all, you spend nine months in Mama's belly with Mama's energy, mostly going through whatever mom is going through, whatever emotions Mama's going through, you know, any of that. So that's a lot of energy. Right there. Also then after you're born. And by the way, you know, birth is pretty traumatic for a baby because it's in this nice, you know, cozy, warm, sweet, amazing thing, just getting constantly fed and all of that. And then it, you know, comes into this big world. Ew. And they get slapped on the butt and they cry and all of that.
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Some people like that, Deb, even I know, right?
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So. But the. The birth canal. I've actually read people's energy while in the birth canal.
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Get out of here.
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Yes. I look at soul contracts as they come in. But I want to get off topic because we could go down that rabbit hole for a while, but yes, there are all kinds of things we can look at. The birth agreements, the sole purpose agreements, the. You have agreements with your parents. That was not random. You picked up them.
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Right.
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Sorry, folks out there, if you hated your parents, your choice. Prayed for them.
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Yeah. For your lesson, for.
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For whatever. The lesson is that. That you're coming here to learn. But to your point, how come you forget? You know what? We're also getting a lot of information and a lot of energy coming at us, as I've been kind of saying throughout. And. And clairvoyance is nothing more than being able to see and retrieve that information. And there's things that, you know, your crown. We have a crown chakra. We have an energy center at the top of our head that is all about our knowingness. So there's things that we know, you know.
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Yes.
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Where our answers just come to us and. And so will you remember? I don't know. Everybody has a different, you know, way of remembering. But how come we forget our dreams? Is it any different? Are we. So is it. Is it live or is it. Remember the old. Is it live or is it memorable?
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Yes. Yes, I do. I was going to finish it for you. Yes, of course I remember.
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Is it. And, and that's. That's a real thing. So we forget. We're only using. What is the. I don't know, the exact percentage.
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It's a low, low percentage of.
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Low percentage of our brain and 3%.
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Or something like that.
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Yeah. And what I do know is that when they take people who are intuitive and things like that and actually hook them up, they're actually using more of their brain.
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Yes.
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And it lights up in different areas and, you know, all the little.
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That's the, the interesting thing where what you're talking about there, because I've seen Joe Dispenza has, you know, YouTube videos and also on Gaia he's got his whole programs and specials that he's been in. He's collaborated with some of these other scientists and engineers to create these different machines to record and measure some of these things that you're talking about. And it's, it's fascinating to me to see that.
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It's fascinating because, because one of the things is like, we want to prove everything. Like, I can't prove to you any of this is real. I can't prove to you what I'm seeing, how I'm seeing. Right. I could just, I could teach you the tools.
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Right.
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So that, and by the way, the tools are not my tools. They're tools so that you can clear enough of your space to be able to see it from your own space. So the tools aren't about. I'm not teaching you how to be clairvoyant. I'm not teaching you how to do an energy heal. I mean, I am. I'm teaching you how to do an energy healing. I'm giving you the tools you need to get there. Your hands are feeling it. Your, your intuition is seeing it, knowing it, feeling it. Right. All. All the Claires.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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That makes so.
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But, but by getting that, that feedback is so fascinating. And, and I mean, look, while I don't, I don't seek validation for reading, I mean it's really nice when somebody.
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Sure it is.
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You know, when somebody says, oh my God, you know, it was great and I feel amazing. Most people after the reading say, I can't believe how much lighter I feel.
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Yeah, I could see that. Yeah.
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Like, like I took a weight off their shoulders, this thing that had been bothering them. I've read people where I once had a 70 year old woman start to just cry her eyes out. I thought, oh my God, what did, what did I do? I can't believe. Because I was reading like this weird abuse in her space and she had been having horrible migraines and her daughter bought her the reading. She was like 78 or something. Like she was older, very cool. And, and the hysterics. I couldn't even get her to like calm down to tell me. And then she said to me, I've never told anybody. I was abused as a little kid.
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Wow.
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And she never told anyone. And that. Hello. That reading, that space released immediate. Yeah, it released the trauma because she no longer had, you know, how much energy.
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Wasn't a secret, something like that, that you just want to keep a dirty little secret, you know, not dirty and is in that person, but that the painful Separate.
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Right. Well, that pain. That kind of pain. Well, and really shameful because, remember, there was a certain time that that was shameful. Yeah, I. I don't know why, but, like, it shouldn't be that way, but, yeah. And for the record, she never had a migraine again. And so even tying that back into what you were saying about the. The sort of experiments and everything, which, by the way, it's really interesting. They've been doing those experiments for years.
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Right?
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Years. That's, you know, one of those unsaid, unspoken things that is always studied because it's, you know, it's science. But what interesting feedback. Like, we can see that on a brain scan or whatever, that it's lighting up, or an mri. I forget how they do it, but there was. You can actually see that lighting up.
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Or something like that. There you go. I think we should probably move on to the musical questions. Even though I. I'd like to keep talking. We didn't hit on some of the things I want to. So maybe we'll do this again. We'll have you come back and we'll. We'll do another show. Because I want to talk about your reading, specifically because you've been doing it for so long, and talk about some of those stories that were impactful. What's that?
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Psychic story?
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Yes, psychic. You don't have to whisper that. You could. You could actually say it.
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That's true. I could. I could say it now. Like, it's okay to say it. I don't whisper it.
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No, you don't. There's. There's no shame in that game. Okay. As anyone can tell you that has ever listened to the podcast before, this is the section when I ask our guests some musical questions. And this is the pillar. And the part of the show to mention regularly. The music is the tie that binds. And I believe everyone has a soundtrack that accompanies their life if they just take a moment to think about it. So, Deb, are you ready for your musical questions?
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Oh, sure. And I would like to say first that thank you for the growth period, because when you asked me this and we. We talked about it for, like, two minutes. That's all, but about two minutes. And then I went down the rabbit hole. And I've been almost cursing you ever.
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Well, not really.
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I would never curse anybody. I. I can put a powerful hex on somebody, so I don't want to ever curse nobody, but it was. It was so much fun to. To go down that.
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I'm glad. I'm glad in. In that's part of all of this because I, I. The soundtrack is also a musical biography or autobiography if you think about it. It doesn't matter if you wrote the songs or played the songs. Those were the songs that were going on in that. In your life at that time, and they were a part of your life. So in, in music is a part of my life and it has been since I can remember. So this is, this is great. And thank you for sharing that.
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No, you're welcome.
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So what was the first song that you fell in love with on the radio?
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So, okay, I am all about musicals.
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Okay. Yeah.
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So I can't even tell you radio, because it would probably was way before radio. But if it was radio, because it really would have been awful. AM radio, because I'm old and I.
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Remember all the wls, but it sounded wg.
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But so it was more, you know, I had like, this little record player. Remember those 45?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So, I mean, I have to tell you, I had a yellow beatles, yellow submarine. 45 that actually, if we knew where that was, would be worse. Something. Oh, yeah, because it was a yellow, yellow submarine. So I listened to the monkeys and to, you know, to, to the Beatles and a lot of Beatles. Like, I love the Beatles. But everything was movie musicals. And my, let's say my first, like, thing that I, I would have to say I just fell in love with was Rogers and Hammerstein's Cinderella with Leslie Ann Warren that they had something on what they called Playhouse tv.
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Get out of here.
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Years ago, they would do a play on tv. And this was Rogers and Hammerstein's. It was a musical. And I just resonated so much with Cinderella and that I was going to meet my prince and. And I sang that song 10 minutes ago I met you, like, probably from the time I was, who knows, five.
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Wow.
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I used to put a, like a blanket on my head, like I had long hair and walk around like Cinderella.
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Awesome.
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And the. Well, she sings all alone in my corner all alone in my room I can be whatever I want to be that's how it starts.
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Very cool.
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And by the way, I'm a huge fan girl that when I congratulated Leslie Ann Warren for whatever anniversary it was, she, like, replied and had a conversation with me.
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Oh, how cool is that? That's awesome.
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Cool. So I know that's weird, but even if you think of the words of that, absolutely.
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It's good stuff and I appreciate that. Did your family have a song that everyone would belt out on road trips or vacations or it doesn't even have to be your family if you went on road trips with friends or what have you.
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So it was whatever rock and roll was on. I have such eclectic taste. So when you're asking me that question, it could have been Journey. I mean, Queen for sure. When I was getting older. Oh, my God. You know, Bohemian Rhapsody and. And all of the Queen songs. I mean, I'm definitely a classic rock kind of girl. And I love the Stones and then even Grateful Dead. I mean, I have my. So is there something to belt? You know, I really struggled with that one because I have belted. You know, when I got older and could go to bars, you know, I would go to the bars with the jukebox and we would sing, you know, Meatloaf Paradise. Oh, yeah, Dashboard.
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That could be that. That could be your song. Nobody's picked paradise by the Dashboard Light yet.
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Oh, mine are going to be really random, dude.
B
That's okay. That's okay.
A
Yeah, so it would be Meatloaf. But every, like, every time in my life, everything has a song. And I wasn't thinking about it when you said it, I was like, oh, my God, I make. I made up a song. I was living in Israel and working on a kibbutz, and I was dating a guy, and I literally wrote a song that was just like his. And. And basically. Do you want me to sing again? I'll sing again if you, you know.
B
If you feel moved.
A
I just. So I wrote this song, and I think I screwed that up there. But that's okay.
B
That's fantastic. That's great.
A
But that was all about I love you, and when you see I'm your son, we can be together in freedom.
B
Very cool.
A
And there's a couple of different verses. One is, I will stand by you in freedom. The others. And I wrote this whole song, totally forgot about it until you asked me about musical, like, thing. And, you know, in my 30s, it was. What was it? In my 30s. Oh, my God. Stuck in a moment. You too? Don't ask.
B
Okay, okay, I'm going to jump around here a little bit. I'm going to get a couple more musical questions, but what I'm going to do is make sure that we have all of your answers, because people have listened. They obviously know what the show is, and there'll be the link that everybody can listen to it. But is there a guilty pleasure song that's in your playlist?
A
Yep.
B
What is it?
A
And I'll be shocked if anyone has ever said this before.
B
What is it?
A
This is a workout song that my coach played and I could play it on loop and sing it. And it is by Wind Song.
B
Wind song. Okay.
A
And it's called Diggy Diggy Hole.
B
That's awesome. And no, you win. Nobody, Nobody's even said diggy diggy hole before.
A
I am a dwarf and I diggy diggy hole. Diggy diggy hole.
B
Oh, my.
A
You will pull that up. You will just fall out. It. It just. He played it and from the first time he played, oh my God, I would make him play it all the time.
B
Diggy diggy. Wow. Okay.
A
You could be a dwarf digging a hole.
B
Yeah. Life. Yeah. There's. There's a left turn in life. Right. So I'm gonna jump to this question is, you know, sometimes there's songs you hear that ring so true that they can just stop you in your tracks. The song lyrics sound like they were writt specifically for you or by you. What's that song?
A
So I think I was talking to you about this earlier, actually send it to you so you can listen to it. But this song, I thought was a love song because it's about knowing you, right? That somebody's out there knowing every bit of you and all of that. And the song, it's by Vienna Tang and it's called the Hymn of the Axiom or the Hymn of Axiom without the. The Hymn of Axiom. And I come to find out later that it was actually about AI, which is so cool. Believe the song was written in 2013, but it is this. Just this most beautiful, like, it will take you to a place when you listen to it that. Wouldn't it be amazing if somebody could know us like those deepest parts and our greatest love and all about us. And I'll. I just remember the first time I heard it. I just literally dead in my tracks.
B
That's cool.
A
I was like, wow, that's very cool.
B
That's another one that nobody's ever mentioned. And you weren't kidding because you told me you in a couple of different times, you, oh, this is going to be interesting. You know, people aren't going to get this. They're not going to have these, which is cool. You know, I love that. And that's part of the. The joy that I get because even though I mean, like, I listen to music all the time, there are so many artists out there and songs out there that I have never heard of. And then all of a sudden it goes on a playlist and it's like, I like that. Who is that? I'LL be like, one of my boys will say, you know, hey, that's a cool song. What is that? And I said, hey, I was on this podcast. Go listen to it anyway. Well, I can, I can tell you that I've had to go to different types of song list because it drives other people crazy when it's being played. Because I'll go Bob Marley and then I'll go country, you know, Jelly Roll. Then I'll go, oh, yeah, we could.
A
Go on a road trip.
B
Well, absolutely.
A
We could go on a road trip. And I'd be like, I'd be happy as long as you include every musical that's ever been written at some point. Because I, I just, I could listen to and it doesn't matter. Hamilton.
B
Sure.
A
Oliver, like, that was a soundtrack of my life. Plus, I was les. I was in a repertory company, so it was in Oliver.
B
Sure.
A
In Fiddler on the Roof and those. But those I could. I. To this day, I sing. I just walk down the street singing. Movie or not. Not movie musicals, but. And Grease. Greece.
B
Yeah. That you and every other woman that I, I talk to. Yeah, There's a lot of. So many. Actually. It. I. Well, it is predominantly women that will admit to liking Greece. You know, personally, it's not that I dislike Greece. It's. There's other things that I probably like more. But I'm. I will also say that when somebody starts singing their, The, The Grease at Grease song at karaoke, which always seems to happen. Right.
A
Oh, right. Of course.
B
I enjoy that. I. I get a. I get a kick out of it. This is going to be a tough question for you, and this is going to be the last musical question. And the reason it's going to be difficult is because of your eclectic musical tastes. But do you have an all time favorite song?
A
Oh, ah, my. An all time favorite song.
B
No, like one that's. That's been played on your playlist more times than any other.
A
Oh, you too. It's a Beautiful day.
B
That's a great song. That's a great song for sure.
A
Funny how that just when you said, what's on your playlist? I was like, oh, the thing that they keep. Spotify sends me all the time.
B
Yeah.
A
10 million times.
B
Well, so. Yeah. So Spotify does that. Apple does that. Your. Your playlist for 2024. I was afraid to open my playlist for 2024 because I thought it would be like two artists that just really took over everything. So I was really stuck on some. Some of the artists this. The past year Because I like the song. Yeah. Yeah.
A
It's funny how you get stalker. Go back to what I ended up listening to. And this was really funny because I love James Taylor.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
I love Jim Croce.
B
Yeah.
A
Harry Chapin.
B
Yep.
A
I am dating myself so bad. Because I'm saying that. And some of your listeners are like, who the hell?
B
Who's that?
A
Yeah, who are they? I don't even know who they are.
B
Were they in that Bob Dylan movie? Who the hell's Bob Dylan?
A
Right.
B
So this is where I'm gonna wrap us up because it's just about time to cue the music for today's episode. But don't forget to, like, comment and subscribe to the Drop the Needle podcast to stay up to date on our latest episodes. I'd also like to take a moment to thank everyone again for tuning in today, and I hope you enjoyed this episode of the Drop the Needle podcast. Guest. I'd also like to thank our very special guest, Ms. Debbie Tatel, for being on the show. Debbie, can you tell our listeners how they can get in touch with you?
A
Oh, gosh. You can get. Well, I'm all over social media, but you can go to my website@spiritlightinsight.com I think there'll be a link somewhere.
B
Yes, yes.
A
I'll put for you to access, so you can certainly go and check out what I do there. Also, I'm authoring a sub stack where I am writing. They're really kind of spiritual articles about what's going on today. And you can find Insight Illuminated. Deborah Tatel. I don't know how you. The link will be also in there. And you can find me Debbie Tatel on Facebook or Instagram. Spirit Light Insight on Instagram. And I love to connect, believe me. I have all my clients contact me in every which way.
B
Awesome. And thank you for sharing that with us. All right, my chocolate needle posse. Like Billy Joel says, from the highs to the lows to the end of the show, this is the end of our show. Until next time, this is Jim Allstadt wishing you health, happiness, and the perfect playlist for your life. Thank you again for being the best part of us. Catch you next time.
Host: Jim Alstott
Guest: Debra Taitel
Date: July 3, 2025
This engaging and wide-ranging episode continues Jim Alstott’s conversation with Debra Taitel, a clairvoyant, healer, and teacher with over 35 years of experience. Building on part one, this conversation delves deeply into understanding auras, the mechanisms and philosophy behind energy healing, how we can access our own intuitive knowledge, and the pivotal role music plays across our lives. Debra offers warmth, humor, and candor throughout, demystifying psychic phenomena and sharing meaningful moments from her practice, as well as personal reflections on music's influence on her journey.
The episode is warm, candid, and gently irreverent—personal stories, laughter, and practical wisdom flow readily between Jim and Debra. Both elevate difficult subjects (trauma, healing, skepticism) with humor and approachability, making mystical subjects accessible and deeply human. The rhythm of the episode—moving from energy healing to personal narrative to the celebratory power of music—mirrors the podcast’s mission: to inspire, challenge, and transform through honest conversation and the joy of a great soundtrack.