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Foreign. Welcome to another episode of the duct tape marketing podcast. This is Jon Jantz and no guest. Today I am going to do a solo show. Might be one of my last solo shows of 2025, depending upon. When you're listening to this, I'm going to call this why your business needs a marketing operating system. So if you've been listening for any amount of time at all, you've certainly heard me say marketing is a system. It starts with strategy before tactics. I've been saying that for 30 years, and in some ways, we have brought a systematic approach to marketing. Have we brought a system? Probably not always. It's probably been more of a concept because we just really haven't had the tools necessary to do it. But I believe we are approaching that point where we do have the actual tools to create a tangible, installable marketing operating system in a business. And I'm very excited about that. That's really going to be the next chapter of duct tape marketing, if you will. We are going to go very heavily into that, what I think is a needed innovation in marketing. I will still say that we encounter every single day businesses that feel chaotic, disconnected, even if they look outwardly like, yeah, they're succeeding, they're growing internally. When you get in there, there's a lot of things going on that nobody's really sure of. There's not a lot of planning. There's certainly tactic of the week still going on. And every now and then you get lucky and some of that stuff works. But it certainly makes it difficult to scale a business in that way. And that's really what I want to tackle today. Kind of the common pain points that we encounter. Random tactics, too many tools, inconsistent results, no clear message or direction. Boy, that one's a killer. A lot of businesses, when I talk about marketing as a system, I mean, they have financial systems, they have hiring systems, they have systems, whatever it is, they make out the door. But then when it comes to marketing, it just feels like such a foreign concept. And I think it's just a normal concept we've been taught to really think differently about. So before I get into the stages of the system, what the system might look like in your world or in any business's world, it has to be built on something that is strategic. And so we've been using for the last couple of years something I call the marketing pyramid. It's really, in a lot of ways, the spine of the system, that it's the structure that really informs kind of how we build it. And a lot of times when people talk about strategy, certainly when they talk about marketing strategy, it's like they do it in a vacuum. I mean, a lot of times when they're talking about a marketing strategy, they're really just talking about how are we going to get business. And that's a growth strategy. Maybe, but that's all here is. The idea behind the pyramid is that you need to build from the bottom up. And that first rung of the strategy pyramid begins with business strategy. What is the vision, values, goals, what's even the business model? I mean, if you're talking about, well, we need to grow 20%, well, why is that going to happen? And so that without a conversation about that or at least some analysis of that, it's very difficult for you to think in terms of like, here's going to be our marketing strategy. Because your marketing strategy is supposed to solve for all of that, right? It's like, if these are our objectives, if this is where we're trying to go, the marketing strategy is going to just support that. It's not going to just be this thing that we operate and hope we get to where we're going. And inside of the marketing strategy, there are really three layers. It's not just about getting the phone to ring, it's not just about getting leads. The three layers are brand strategy, growth strategy, which I mentioned, and customer experience strategy. Those are all a combined hole, really, that go into a marketing strategy. And so many people leave out the first one and the third one. So that brand strategy is, you know, what's your message, what's your identity, what's your positioning, what's your proof, you know, what, what do you want the market to be thinking about you out there? And do you have defensible competitive difference that you can really go out there and understand who your ICP is, your ideal client profile, and understand who you're competing with for that ideal client profile so that you can send the right message and really have a strong brand strategy. Now after that, this is the part most people understand is the growth strategy, and that's really the offers, the, the channels, how you're going to generate leads, ultimately, how you're going to convert leads as well. And then the third part that I see people quite often missing and not thinking about is the customer experience strategy. How are we going to retain customers? How are we going to generate referrals? How are we going to wow our customers so that they are out there actually talking about us and advocating for doing work with us? Those all need to Just be planned. Thanks. So we need to build now start building objectives around what we want to accomplish in each of those strategies. Now, if we're going to build a true marketing operating system, one of the core pieces that this is going to be built on is a system strategy. So what's our tool stack look like? What are the processes? How do we create automation? Increasingly, what role is AI going to play in our creating systems? Because this is really how you get this repeatable system in place is by actually having a plan, having that business and marketing strategy that is then going to be executed by, you know, who's doing things. And then of course, that's the final tip of the pyramid and that's the team strategy. What are the roles? What's the rhythm? How is AI going to be integrated into your team? So that's the spine. That's ultimately what we want to have a plan for. And then we build the marketing operating system in stages to actually execute on that. There isn't any way for me to put a pyramid down and structure in front of you and say, here, fill out all of this and we'll have this. These. That's the ultimate goal to. To actually have this completed marketing pyramid. That's going to be our guide. We're going to build each of those pieces in stages. So.
