101.) Drake Album Reactions + No Kars for Kids (5/18/26)

Summary

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The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show

Episode 101: Drake Album Reactions + No Kars for Kids (5/18/26)
Date Published: May 18, 2026
Hosts: Ebro Darden, Laura Stylez, Peter Rosenberg
Listen Here: [YouTube/Podcast platforms]

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Overview

This episode dives into two major themes:

• The trio’s first in-depth reactions to Drake’s massive triple-album drop (“Iceman,” “Habibti,” and “Maid of Honor”), including discussion of the lingering effects of his beef with Kendrick, the albums’ structure, and broader cultural impact.
• The surprising and controversial revelations about the “Kars for Kids” charity.

Alongside these headline topics, Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg touch on media dynamics, political organizing, AOC’s speeches in the South, and transparency in music and philanthropy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Culture Vultures, Clickbait, and the Algorithm (01:31–12:20)

• Reflecting on the “culture vulture” conversation: Rosenberg and the team discuss backlash and support he received after recent viral clips, including “rage baity” moments and the deliberate use of controversy for engagement.
  • Notable Quote (02:15, Laura): “I did enjoy seeing people like 9th Wonder, Questlove, come to Rosenberg’s defense and share personal stories. Contributions. I thought that was super dope.”
• Jason Lee’s interview, intentions, and promo circuits: Debate about whether guests are ever truly benevolent or just chasing clicks.
  • Notable Quote (07:53, Rosenberg): “He doesn’t even care. He was doing us a solid.”
• The new era of content: Recognizing how “the algorithm” and online outrage steer not just engagement, but booking and even the structure of conversations on the show.

2. Independent Media & Influence (08:48–12:20)

• Discussion of how traditional news is bypassed for podcasts and alternative media.
  • Notable Quote (09:07, Laura): “It’s not the CNNs, the Fox… people are getting their news and information from somewhere else now.”
• Example: Dr. Cheyenne Bryant controversy—whether she’s a real doctor and how easily credentialism can be faked in today’s media.

3. Drake’s Triple-Album Weekend (12:22–38:00)

a. Album Structure & Business Motives

• Triple album release (“Iceman,” “Habibti,” “Maid of Honor”) speculated to be a strategic move to exit his UMG deal.
  • Ebro (12:36): “It is confirmed… the three album move was to get out of his UMG deal.”

b. Reactions to the Music

• Overarching feeling: The albums are classic Drake in their blend of genres and themes, but lacking in new direction or classic status.
  • Ebro (28:57): “He gave us his attempt at a full rap album. He gave us a full R&B vibe album. And he gave us a full kind of dance club, crossover, rhythmic pop album.”
• Some tracks stand out, but albums seen as too long, with repetitiveness and heavy focus on beef.
  • Ebro (29:02): “The biggest problem I have with these three albums is I feel like Drake went nine for 40.”
  • Laura (22:09): “I enjoyed some songs, but sometimes I would just catch myself just fading away.”

c. Thematic Continuity & Critique

• Drake’s inability/unwillingness to introspect deeply or move beyond bitterness after his beef with Kendrick.
  • Ebro (24:11): “It’s just clouded by all the still being upset and bitter and angry about the battle… he kind of starts [to self-reflect] and then goes away from it.”
• Ongoing discussion on Drake's “God complex,” persistent themes around women, parties, and social dissatisfaction.
  • Rosenberg (25:55): “Drake talks about having a God complex… Bro, a lot of people stand next to you and think it’s cool to be friends with you because you’re Drake… But they also like Kendrick…”

d. Cultural Appropriation & Globalization

• Playful critique of Drake’s international stylings (“Habibti” vs. “Habibi”; Jamaican/British influences).
  • Rosenberg (13:47): “My man’s cultural appropriation game goes any direction. You never know.”

e. Political Underpinnings

• Sharp critiques on Drake's political alignments, specifically his silence on controversial moments (MAGA/Trump associations) and comparison to other artists.
  • Ebro (17:42): "I'm still sitting here waiting for him to distance himself from that White House post."
  • Laura (18:01): "Like Olivia Rodrigo did."

f. Album Comparisons in Hip-Hop’s Legacy

• Drake’s classic status, or lack thereof, compared to Jay-Z, Nas, Kendrick; Drake dominating in genre-blending but still not delivering a “rap classic.”
  • Rosenberg (26:43): "Just like many people feel he's not going to give us that ultimate rap classic that a Jay has... that Maid of Honor... Are any of the people we just mentioned capable of doing those? No."

g. Gender, Sexuality, & the Drake Persona

• Extended meta-analysis of Drake’s womanizing themes, the normalization of male sexual conquest, and whether it holds him back from growth.
  • Rosenberg (36:36): “The amount of sex addict talk that comes through this album… He just sounds like a guy who’s absolutely obsessed with sleeping with every woman possible.”

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4. Kars for Kids Exposé (41:03–47:37)

• Investigative dive: The iconic “Kars for Kids” jingle masks a charity primarily benefiting Orthodox Jewish youth programs (including travel to Israel), not “all kids,” resulting in legal action in California.
  • Laura (43:24): “The charity allegedly... the majority of the donations went to religious camps, trips to Israel and real estate purchases.”
• Deceptive advertising and larger implications for public trust in charities.
  • Laura (44:41): “The judge was like, nah, fam… not having it.”
• Reflection on how such revelations fuel antisemitic conspiracy theories and erode trust.
  • Rosenberg (45:44): “If you have crazy conspiracy theories about Jewish people, this is just so reinforcing of that. Of, like, wait, the Kars for Kids… is a secret [Israel] operation?”

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5. AOC, Voting Rights, and Media Visibility (49:02–56:44)

• AOC's fiery speeches in Alabama and Georgia for voting rights rallies; very little mainstream media coverage, relying on independent platforms and cross-promotion.
  • AOC at 49:42: “It is time for the North to pull up to the South… for all of us to come to Georgia, to Louisiana, to Tennessee, to Mississippi, and let them know exactly what they have uncorked with this injustice.”
• Algorithmic suppression of political advocacy content; audience must actively seek independent information.
  • Ebro (51:56): “Your algorithm is controlled by tech billionaires who don’t want you to see this voting rights stuff.”
• Potential of new progressive leadership: The show speculates on whether AOC could run for president and the obstacles she’d face (sexism, racism), as well as her close alliance with Bernie Sanders.
  • Ebro (53:47): “She’s a woman. We just struck out three times with ‘She’s’… She’s got a little bit of headwind as far as sexism is concerned in this culture of American politics.”
  • Laura (55:46): “And that’s why [AOC and Bernie] are hand in hand the majority of the time.”

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6. The Rundown: Key Drake Lyrics & Album Disses (61:30–70:38)

• Breaking down notable bars & controversies:
  • Against Kendrick:
    "White kids listen to you because they feel some type of guilt…"
    Laura (62:06): “Didn’t you do that with God’s Plan?” Rosenberg (62:55): “Drake has too many white kids who feel no guilt.”
  • ASAP Rocky:
    “Your baby mama ain’t even post a single. Damn, where’s she at?”
  • Jay-Z:
    “I’ll take $500k, not the dinner. I would never learn from none of y’all.”
  • Rick Ross/Aiden Ross:
    “I was Aiden Ross with the streams before Aiden Ross had ever streamed.”
  • Drake’s patterns:
    The hosts note repetitive themes and diminishing returns,
    • Ebro (29:02): “He went 9 for 40.”
• Critique of modern rap lyric analysis:
  Rosenberg bemoans TikTok-style lyric think-pieces and the internet's influence on rap conversation. - Rosenberg (70:15): “I don’t like that rap has changed in the last few years… where now every bar is thought of as ‘will it work as a think piece on TikTok’...”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Jason Lee’s intentions with interviews:
  Rosenberg (04:54): “I guess what I’m confused by legitimately is, are you saying that he actually was doing it from a place of benevolence? I just don’t understand what you’re saying.”
• On Drake’s expectations:
  Ebro (24:10): “He kind of starts [to self-reflect] and then goes away from it.” Rosenberg (25:08): “Bro, a lot of people stand next to you and like you… but they also like Kendrick.”
• On Kars for Kids:
  Laura (44:41): “The judge was like, nah, fam, you didn’t say that in the jingle. You didn’t say that in the visuals.”
• AOC’s rally:
  (50:01) “They think they can draw us out of power. They do not know the sleeping giant that they just awakened…”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Algorithm/Culture Vulture/Jason Lee: 01:31–12:20
• Independent Media & Dr. Cheyenne Bryant: 08:48–12:20
• Drake Albums Main Segment: 12:22–38:00
• Kars for Kids Discussion: 41:03–47:37
• AOC & Voting Rights: 49:02–56:44
• Drake Disses (Rundown): 61:30–70:38

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Tone and Style

The episode blends sharp cultural critique, nerdy lyrical dissection, humor, and earnest political advocacy. The hosts' conversational banter is casual, brisk, and sometimes playfully combative.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Show

You’ll learn:

• Honest, nuanced reactions to Drake’s new era, the ongoing Kendrick aftermath, and his place in hip-hop history.
• How one of America’s most recognized charities misled millions about its true beneficiaries.
• Why independent media and political action are more vital than ever—in the face of mainstream and algorithmic suppression.
• How the internet, outrage, and the need for “the algo hustle” are shaping not just music, but all public conversations.

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(Advertisements and sponsorship segments, as well as non-content banter, were omitted from this summary.)

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Transcript

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[Laura Styles]

You survived the Miami weekend, nailed the speech, and maxed out your credit card

[Rosenberg]

in the name of friendship.

[Laura Styles]

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[Ebro Darden]

Just don't call it a podcast. The Ebro Laura Rosenberg show Show. Okay, boys and girls, welcome to the program that is Ebro Laura and Rosenberg show. If you don't know, but welcome.

[Rosenberg]

Starting to run it back, man. Rewind selector.

[Ebro Darden]

You know what I mean?

[Laura Styles]

Good morning. Good morning.

[Ebro Darden]

Hey, subscribe and like and share and do all the to get us popping in the algo.

[Rosenberg]

The algo hustle was big last week.

[Ebro Darden]

We did significant algo hustle last week. Laura, how'd you feel about it?

[Laura Styles]

It was everywhere. Everyone was like, I had. My friends were like, wow, did it get that bad? I'm like, just watch the entire thing. That's what it was.

[Ebro Darden]

How did it get that bad?

[Laura Styles]

But I did enjoy seeing people like 9th wonder quest love come to Rosenberg's defense, shall I say?

[Rosenberg]

I mean, yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Laura Styles]

I mean, sharing personal stories on how much you know you mean to them and contributions. I thought that was super dope. I saw a lot of people come out.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura Styles]

Come out at me. Commenting.

[Rosenberg]

No, they supported me by coming out of the closet because they said we all want to be valuable allies, so we need to learn how to start sucking D. It's the only way to do it. No, the Thing that I thought was interesting about that, and I guess this is what shows the bubble we live in is that so many people I knew hit me up and were upset. Like, this is bullish. I'm like, you know, I get called this all the time.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, no idea.

[Rosenberg]

They don't know that I'm called culture vulture by ever. Yo. I was on a Mount Rushmore of culture vultures.

[Laura Styles]

You were?

[Rosenberg]

Yes, very. It was a great.

[Ebro Darden]

But it's all. It's also not only indicative of being in a bubble and the way the, you know, the Internet works. People have their little things. But it's also people ignore things that just don't make sense.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

That's how maybe that would have been like what is.

[Rosenberg]

Whereas we showed it to them and we gotta give Bascom props. Bascom put together a, you know, rage baity enough clip to like, to like draw you to get em going. Cause people really were passionate.

[Ebro Darden]

You put the scheme in bad scheme on that one. You know what I'm saying?

[Laura Styles]

He's taking a vow. He's taking a vow.

[Rosenberg]

Attaway. Scheme.

[Ebro Darden]

He was scheme.

[Rosenberg]

So that was. It was nice to see people like want to jump in and. And throw some love. But I thought it was a good clip to put out. I saw someone on the street yesterday. He literally goes. He was like, yo, man, better fancies late night. Blah, blah. He was like, you're getting a little bit. What was the word he used? Clickbaity these days. A little clickbaity these days. But it's cool. It's cool. I get it. I was like. He was like this whole culture Vulture Jason Lee. I was like, oh, you're literally referring to this week. We literally just got clip baity. And then I thought about it and. And I'm like, we didn't have a major conversation about having Jason Lee on the show, but Ebro and I definitely had the same thought. And Laura was just like, I'll go with it. Fine. We definitely had the same thought, which is tell me if you think this is clickbait. Yeah, it's gonna be a good conversation. I did want a little get back of you've said nasty things about me. I get to respond to it to your face. Rare opportunity. But also, as much as I don't like Jason Lee, he's not a white supremacist. He's not trying to overthrow. He's just a guy who does lazy crap. In my opinion, as content, he's not a horrible person.

[Ebro Darden]

Now I had a thought and let me know if you guys agree with it? Do you? Look, because Jason Lee came up here and in his mind, right, we are no longer working at a big, you know, station, a big brand. Now we know the inner workings of that brand and we know how much while they have a big brand, they don't really have the wherewithal and the, you know, stick to itiveness. To actually use the brand for what it could.

[Rosenberg]

Could. Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

And that was one of our frustrations, and I think that's well documented. But he can't. I think he came up here because he thought he was helping us.

[Rosenberg]

That. That's. Hold on. In your brain, that's what you actually think.

[Ebro Darden]

I think he thought that.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, in your brain.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't think. I think that. I think he thought that, but he thought.

[Rosenberg]

Are you suggest. Let me tell you, like.

[Ebro Darden]

Because there was a point in the

[Rosenberg]

thought, he was being benevolent. Yes. You think he did that from a standpoint of benevolence?

[Ebro Darden]

Well, because in the convo, remember, he goes, now you guys are like us. We need to work together.

[Laura Styles]

Yes, I did.

[Ebro Darden]

He said that out of his mouth

[Laura Styles]

while we were saying, yes, I did hear that. And I was just like.

[Ebro Darden]

It wasn't like, he didn't come up here to just be on some. Like, he even said during the convo, like, I got some stuff going on. We should talk after this. He said that.

[Rosenberg]

You're out of your mind. You would do something like that. You're out of your mind.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, no. He said that.

[Rosenberg]

Yo, how about this? Hasan Piker didn't come up here to show love to us, let alone Jason Lee. Everyone comes up to places.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, no. Are you hearing.

[Rosenberg]

It wasn't to help us.

[Ebro Darden]

No. In his mind.

[Rosenberg]

But are you.

[Ebro Darden]

But not in my mind.

[Rosenberg]

But I don't understand what I.

[Ebro Darden]

In my mind, we were having him up because I wanted that to happen for our fans. That was for us. We were doing that.

[Laura Styles]

And his team asked to come up.

[Ebro Darden]

And they asked to come up.

[Rosenberg]

Well, they did everything. They're on a. They're on a promo. A big promo.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rosenberg]

But what I'm trying to. I guess what I'm confused by legitimately is are you saying that he actually was doing it from a place of benevolence? I just don't understand what you're saying.

[Ebro Darden]

Like, you think he was like, yo, I'm a go up here and see

[Rosenberg]

if I can help these guys get.

[Ebro Darden]

And I'm going to make this moment for them. He could go a lot of places he'd go a lot of bigger places, bro.

[Rosenberg]

No one. In my comments, half the people didn't know who he was. It was a very useful. In our world, but that's what I'm saying. It was a very useful promotional.

[Ebro Darden]

But you're just. All you're doing is parroting the same thing. We just proved to, you know, a bunch of other people that were like, I don't even know who this guy is.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Ebro Darden]

Right. In his world, in his bubble, in his algorithm. He even during that conversation was like, there's certain things I just do because I know it gets it going. Like, it's all algo hustle. And that's why we were exposing it a little bit. Our audience was like, yo, this guy's just a click baiter. We were like, yes, that's what he does. And he knows he's doing that. He said it and he said it, so.

[Rosenberg]

And he doesn't even care. He was doing us a solid.

[Laura Styles]

I don't think so. But I think that they looked at it like, hey, they're being talked about because, guys, we've gotten more. More exposure on this show than we ever got it hot. Right?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura Styles]

And then, so obviously to me, he felt we were important enough to. For him to want to come up here. They knew that we had a past. A past which was with you mostly. And then he wanted to take advantage of the moment, but I do think he. He thought it was beneficial for both. Both parties. And he. He said that. Listen, I don't think he was just like, yes, I'm gonna go help out my friends for a viral moment. I don't think that's it at all.

[Rosenberg]

I don't think there was any part of him that thought it could. Like, this is about it being good. Maybe now may. I'll accept this. Maybe him thinking his commitment to sort of this kind of thing and thinking the overall growth of it all is beneficial for rising tides floats all boats. Yeah, because that's as far as I would say.

[Laura Styles]

I mean, the other. Listen, as crazy as that clip was, the other clip that has been moving around a lot. I don't know if you guys noticed this and it's been conveniently cut down, but it's a clip of him talking about how the Democrats and Kamala Harris and the team, like, do not take independent black media seriously.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, I saw that.

[Laura Styles]

That. That. That part has been moving around a lot. And I just found that one interesting because, yeah, I. I think it's important. I think it's important for People to understand where people are getting news from. Like, it's not the CNN's, the fox. Well, Fox News is a brainwashed situation, but you know what I mean? It's like people are getting their news and information from somewhere else now. And I think. I think that was an important.

[Ebro Darden]

But even on that side, Laura, even on the, you know, that side of, you know, if you want to talk about Fox News side, similarly, they're getting. A lot of people are tuned into podcasts, things that are not your, quote, unquote, vetted. I mean, hell, man, we got people on Instagram that are like. I mean, the whole doctor, Dr. Bryant last week thing where she's, you know, I saw that.

[Laura Styles]

She a doctor or not.

[Rosenberg]

I saw that, like, moving. But, like, it was one of those things where I didn't take the step of actually going in. I just saw her popping up on stuff.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. And we're not. We don't care enough over here. But, you know, she's someone out here who's giving people advice, and she's someone out here not only giving people advice, but, like, giving people therapy. Like, and is not. Doesn't have her, you know, according to the Internet, is not certified by an accredited institution, doesn't have her thesis, doesn't have nothing. And she was running around and Shay Shay and Joe Button and on shows and hustling it, you know what I'm saying? Putting out books. Doctor. I'm a doctor.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, literally saying I'm a doctor.

[Ebro Darden]

No, her name is Dr. Cheyenne Bryant. Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And she's not a doctor, you're saying.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, that's what people are questioning, whether or not she has, you know, John Cena or accreditation.

[Rosenberg]

Well, John Cena was never an actual doctor.

[Ebro Darden]

Neither was Dr. Dre.

[Rosenberg]

No, Dr. Of Thuganomics. But at the same time, he knew enough about thuganomics to, I think, portray himself in that way.

[Ebro Darden]

But nonetheless. Nonetheless, people are out here. People go ahead. She does have an honor.

[Rosenberg]

Honorary doctorate. So that still will let her be a doctor. But the question is if she has a legitimate.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. So we were talking about the legitimacy. Okay.

[Rosenberg]

Nothing honorary.

[Ebro Darden]

Thank you, Rasa.

[Laura Styles]

Thank you.

[Rosenberg]

Well, that is interesting, though, because she is running with the honorary. Like, Don, they call me doctor.

[Ebro Darden]

So she's not. But that's the problem. She's not saying I'm honorary. She is saying I went to an institution they are now closed down of two years ago, and they don't have my records. And everybody's like, that's not how that works.

[Laura Styles]

I. I saw a Clip of an interview where they ask you, are you basically a real doctor? She's like, I worked hard for it. Yes. But never gives a definite answer.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, and people who are doctors in that field or in other fields are like, yeah, but you would have your dissertation, you would have your documentation.

[Rosenberg]

But this is.

[Laura Styles]

Be proud of showing it.

[Ebro Darden]

But my point is the era we live in.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. I mean, dude, she's going. You said she's sitting down with Shay Shay Shannon, God bless him. Lovely man. There's not a topic he talks about that he's informed on. I swear. Unless it was. Unless sports.

[Ebro Darden]

Listen, that's Club Shay Shay.

[Rosenberg]

It's Club Shay Shay. But I've watched him sit with people who like, we know well. And I'm like, oh, someone handed you note cards. You don't. So this is the era we live in of people sit with people like him.

[Ebro Darden]

Right. But people like them, him, whoever they like, they connect to someone. They tune into the thing. It's entertaining, it's produced well.

[Rosenberg]

And that's why you get people who don't need to be real doctors, because you just really like what they're selling you anyway.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right.

[Rosenberg]

So it doesn't really matter.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right. Speaking of selling you anyway, Iceman weekend. How was everybody's Iceman weekend? Iceman was out. Boy, listen, I had a great weekend.

[Laura Styles]

He gave us triplets.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, congrats.

[Ebro Darden]

He impregnated us with triplets. Now the. It is confirmed, I think, that the three album move was to get out of his UMG deal so he could.

[Rosenberg]

That's confirmed.

[Ebro Darden]

I think it's. I've seen it from multiple outlets that cover music and you know, I haven't heard from him.

[Rosenberg]

Sharp said it.

[Ebro Darden]

Sh. Shay said it, Dr. Cheyenne, Brian said it. So.

[Rosenberg]

No, it's got to be real. It's got to be real.

[Ebro Darden]

It's real. However, let's start with Laura Styles. How did you like. Okay, people say Iceman, but there's obviously Iceman, Habib, tea and maid of honor.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

So what did you feel?

[Laura Styles]

I didn't get to maid of honor. It was a lot, guys. It's a lot. It's a lot. I heard a little bit.

[Ebro Darden]

By the way, let me hit you with this for not. Congratulations.

[Rosenberg]

You play.

[Laura Styles]

Okay. I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. And that's what.

[Ebro Darden]

That's.

[Laura Styles]

My friends told me they were like best one. So the habibti. I. I enjoyed a couple tracks.

[Rosenberg]

What's habibti, by the way?

[Ebro Darden]

I Think it means my dear in

[Laura Styles]

Arabic or my love.

[Rosenberg]

So it's habibi.

[Laura Styles]

No, habibi is brother male. Okay.

[Rosenberg]

This is habibi or jace. It's habibti.

[Laura Styles]

I guess it's for, like, the female version.

[Rosenberg]

Okay. I guess, because I read it and I went, is that habibi? But it's the silent Tea or something.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I enjoyed a couple of tracks.

[Rosenberg]

My man's cultural appropriation, Gabe, goes any direction. You never know. What my Arab.

[Ebro Darden]

He says the Arab women love him.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, perfect.

[Ebro Darden]

Said it. He had the lyric. There was a lyric. I heard he said that.

[Rosenberg]

And Jamaican women love him.

[Laura Styles]

And the British women, by the way,

[Rosenberg]

none of that's a lie. So if that's the standard, he is goofy.

[Ebro Darden]

He's just, you know, using, you know, a language that people could relate to.

[Rosenberg]

If he is allowed to do the language or voice of the countries where women there want to sleep with him, he can do any language.

[Ebro Darden]

Right. That should be your next album.

[Rosenberg]

All of it.

[Ebro Darden]

That's it. That's the album now.

[Laura Styles]

Now, when it came to Ice, man, yeah, there was a couple joints I liked. Obviously, I was caught up to hear, like, what is he going to say about people? The Catt line really surprised me. I didn't think it was going to be that forward because he's normally not forward. Like, he doesn't call out people by name. And that's what annoys me. Like, just at this point, just say it. You know what I mean? But for Khed, I was like, wow. And I don't know, have you guys seen, like, people now kind of, like, intentionally trolling Khaled, like, trying to get him to say Free Palestine on camera?

[Ebro Darden]

We have a video.

[Rosenberg]

I saw one. Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, Free Palestine. Say it one more time.

[Rosenberg]

Say it one more time. Why? That man looked dejected like that? Like, you didn't know that was gonna be what happened further. Well, he said, say it again, though. So maybe he did say it off camera.

[Ebro Darden]

Maybe Khaled has a response.

[Rosenberg]

This is not a response.

[Laura Styles]

Read that to me, man, because I don't know.

[Ebro Darden]

Hey, let's see, man. I'm not reading that.

[Laura Styles]

I have questions.

[Rosenberg]

No, man.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, hey, listen. Khaled more Jamaican than Drake, though.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, historically, yes. No, no, he has. He has legitimate, legitimate ally claims for what he did in Miami for all those years.

[Ebro Darden]

That's a fact. Well, and his relationships in Jamaica.

[Rosenberg]

And the relationships in Jamaica. Yes, for sure.

[Laura Styles]

But that said, it's bad for him, though, because now it's like, everyone's going to be looking at him, troll him, to make him say something that we all hope that he would have said from the very beginning.

[Ebro Darden]

By the way, who's everyone when you speak? Who is this?

[Laura Styles]

The only reason I'm saying is because they know that he's Palestinian.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, no, but people on the Internet have been upset with Khaled for not speaking out on Palestine since before October 7th.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Way before.

[Laura Styles]

But obviously, you know, now it's more than before.

[Ebro Darden]

I'll tell you a whole thing. We were going to have. This is how long ago, Rosenberg, when we were going to have you and Khaled sit down together. Remember we asked.

[Rosenberg]

We talked about this. Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

This is how many years ago?

[Rosenberg]

No, no more. Yeah, no, in the long. I'd say 10, 12. I've talked about him and I have talked about being Palestinian and Jewish together on camera on at least one occasion, if not more. But it's a long time ago.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, a long time ago.

[Laura Styles]

Wow. I didn't know that.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's nothing like. Deep. It's nothing deep. But it. We've talked about it. Definitely just like, you know, joke about it. Showing love. Jewish, Palestinian love or whatever. This. I think the subject's really complicated. The telling someone what their obligations should be when they're of the group and you're not in the group. That's crazy. Tell me, like, you're a bad Palestinian. What you need to do when they actually.

[Ebro Darden]

Well. And we don't. And just be. And. And once again, Khaled's family hasn't been in that region. I don't know when they left. But you don't know who is there.

[Rosenberg]

We don't know who's there.

[Ebro Darden]

We don't know who's there. We don't know his connection to it. We don't know anything about. I don't personally know.

[Rosenberg]

I don't either.

[Ebro Darden]

Anything about his connection other than the fact that I think his parents are from there.

[Rosenberg]

Now, I will say this about Drake, and he doesn't get credit for it. Drake did jump on that artist for a ceasefire.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes, he did.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And got. And really got no love for it.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah. And 40 has been very vocal about Palestinians. Yeah, very vocal. Like, one of the most so.

[Ebro Darden]

But simultaneously, I'm still sitting here, and I don't want this to, you know, deter us from having a good conversation about what's going on with this music Drake drop. I'm still sitting here waiting for him to distance himself from that White House post.

[Laura Styles]

He's not Going to do that.

[Ebro Darden]

Why not?

[Rosenberg]

Do you have that? You have the Iceman post. Iceman, Iceman, Iceman, Iceman, Iceman.

[Ebro Darden]

Why wouldn't he?

[Laura Styles]

Like Olivia Rodrigo did.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Other artists have done it. It's not like. Yeah, but there was also the post where they had the album cover with the chain. Yeah, where's that?

[Laura Styles]

The MAGA chain.

[Ebro Darden]

Not just that.

[Laura Styles]

And then people on the Internet were like, he can't. He can't. Because then he won't be allowed in the country.

[Rosenberg]

But that's not how it works.

[Ebro Darden]

And also, that's just not what. And you guys are okay with that?

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

So he should just. He should just. And by the way, of all the people who could afford to have problems with these people, Drake, it wasn't going to be all right.

[Ebro Darden]

Right. So then you have. But. And you know, just to lay this out, I'm just waiting once again, look, I supported Kanye west on his last album. He hasn't denounced his alignment with MAGA either. So let's just be clear. This is not like I'm not going to support Drake's music or I'm not going to enjoy it. So I don't want this to deter from us enjoying the music, but I'm just waiting for it. Because what I see, right. Is an alignment with white supremacy. That's what I see. Because you have Aiden Ross, you have academics, academics promoting maga. You have Drake doing it as well. Or no. At least not distancing himself from it. Right.

[Rosenberg]

He does follow them. All we know is that he follows Trump and J.D. vance, but so do a lot of people.

[Laura Styles]

Right?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, yeah, but that's. Whatever. And then there. And then there's also. Who else was in there? There's another streamer in there.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, who's another one he's friends with?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, there was another person in there. But regardless. Who is it? Neon. Neon.

[Rosenberg]

But regardless of neon.

[Ebro Darden]

Regardless, I'm sitting here waiting for that. So while we're talking about Khaled and him trying to call Khaled out.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Let's not just act like this is all clean for every. Everybody's on the right side of history here. Or speaking out like.

[Rosenberg]

Well, no, no, let's. Again, remember, we can't allow that one issue to be the. Oh, they're good now.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Let's be honest. In 2026, it's actually gotten very easy to point at that situation and see which side's right. Which side?

[Ebro Darden]

Well, and you'd be surprised, Rosenberg. I saw it. There's The. The. The. You're not gonna distance yourself from that. He used your album cover and threw up a chain with MAGA on the White House account. You're not gonna say, hey, listen, my whole career I haven't really made. Politics is not really my thing.

[Rosenberg]

Someone should be doing that. Someone on your team should give a statement. There's nothing.

[Ebro Darden]

Nothing.

[Rosenberg]

They took your cover and made it a maga. That's just. That is crazy. And again, Drake is worth, you know, probably pushing on a billion dollars. Right? He's not American.

[Ebro Darden]

He doesn't.

[Rosenberg]

Not trying to be American. Yeah, he has residencies here. But like, he. Drake. It seems like if you listen to the album and kind of like, pay attention, seems like he's really been spending more time in Toronto than ever. Right? Like, does he really need the.

[Ebro Darden]

So. So I'm sitting here waiting for that. I also remember when we were talking to Hasan Piker, we didn't dig in on it, but Hassan Piker pointed out, and I didn't know this, that Steak academics Drake and that whole. And that whole faction, or Aiden Ross, that whole faction attacks Hassan Piker, according to him.

[Rosenberg]

Well, he didn't say Drake has attacked him, but. No, but that Steak Steak crowd. Because he's called out Steak. Yeah, that's what he said.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. So I want to dig in on that.

[Rosenberg]

But hold on. Yo, this is why people say you hate Drake, bro. Why are we talking about the music, though?

[Ebro Darden]

Well, because I wanted to. Because we were talking about Cal and him pointing out Khaled. And I want to say, like, yeah, okay, yeah, clean. You pointed out Khaled. You said what?

[Rosenberg]

You actually, by the way, it is also a little messy too, though, to Laura's point. Like, you've never called. You never call anyone out by name. And of all the opps, you had the one who caught it with the name and putting the pressure of, say, Free Palestine on them. It's the Palestinian friend you used to have who I don't even fully understand why you hate him. Because Khalid definitely never said anything nasty about Drake. No, not publicly.

[Laura Styles]

No, he didn't.

[Rosenberg]

Khaled's never said anything nasty about anyone ever publicly. So, like, of all the people to catch it, we have to be honest, like, it is sort of.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, he was kind of nasty to Tyler.

[Rosenberg]

He was kind of nasty to Tyler.

[Ebro Darden]

He wasn't.

[Rosenberg]

That was. But that was. That was his feelings being hurt about his album, not excusing it, but he was. And don't worry, don't feel bad for Tyler. Tyler came on our show and multiplied the times 100 back, so it was okay. Yeah, but most situations with Khaled, like, what I'm saying is Khaled was kind of an easy target to be the one whose name got called. It was like, damn, Khaled.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, I think so.

[Rosenberg]

That being said, Laura, you said you listened to Iceman and you thought it was cool.

[Laura Styles]

I thought it was cool. I enjoyed some songs, but sometimes I would just. I would catch myself just fading away.

[Rosenberg]

Me too.

[Laura Styles]

It didn't grab me like the way I wanted it to, you know?

[Rosenberg]

Do you think that people and I, the people like you and I are waiting for a Drake album like Iceman to just be something that he is not? Like, we're waiting for that opening track. We're waiting for that opening track to come out and be like a Jay Z intro where the premiere joint hits and he's on some.

[Ebro Darden]

And that's why I want to hit all of you guys with It's Never Happened.

[Rosenberg]

And like we were waiting for it to happen. And then I realized I'm like, I'm listening to Iceman. And by the way, I do have positive thoughts on Drake's albums coming because I have evolved since I first heard it. But as far as Iceman goes, you're waiting for it to take some step into like a classic hip hop feel that he never goes to.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, there's a couple, but not classic.

[Rosenberg]

But the drums are hit like that. He's still gonna kind of whine and meander in the middle of it. It's a lot of complaining.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no. What you just said there, the whining, meander and the complaining. Yes, that happened.

[Rosenberg]

And that's.

[Ebro Darden]

We're not gonna act like Make Them Pay doesn't step into a hip hop field with the Denise Williams sample.

[Rosenberg]

No, I'm is hard. But then there was. I forget what bar he had on there that really.

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, sure, there's going to be that. But I just wanted to point out, and there's moments through Iceman, I think that the. Listen, the flub on Iceman for me is it's too long.

[Rosenberg]

I. I would say that's the flub on Maid of Honor too. It's like two or three too long. But that's everybody.

[Ebro Darden]

But everybody does that nowadays. And you know, a lot of people will be like, yeah, but it was getting him out of a deal and he had, you know, all the business side of it. And I want to put that over here, what you're talking about.

[Rosenberg]

By the way, people hit Me with that, too. That's not my business. You have to respect. He's feeding the algorithm and he's getting out of a deal, bro. I'm listening to the albums. That's not. Yeah, he has great business. He's done really well for himself.

[Laura Styles]

Fine. I want the art.

[Ebro Darden]

But I will say this. I think Drake examined or starts to try to examine some things about himself.

[Rosenberg]

Agree.

[Ebro Darden]

It's just clouded by all of the still being upset and bitter and angry about the battle and, you know, who pick sides and you know what I mean? So I think some of the. Him starting to, like, really look at himself in the mirror that people have been asking for. He doesn't. He kind of starts and then goes away from it.

[Rosenberg]

That's what a lot of people do. It's very real life. That's like real people. Like, I noticed there's some things that I'm like. He sort of implies on multiple occasions that, like, he is really sensitive about it and he is all these things. But then he can't lay off going after people like LeBron, who, again, of all the people, like, I don't know their personal situation.

[Ebro Darden]

He got his tattoo. He had a tattoo of him.

[Rosenberg]

But he also.

[Laura Styles]

That was crazy.

[Rosenberg]

Drake talks about having a God complex. And I don't really necessarily know the exact meaning of God complex in, like, a psychological way, but I do know what I've inferred by hearing it a lot. You believe that, like, you are the all being.

[Ebro Darden]

You're infallible.

[Rosenberg]

Bro. Bro, a lot of people stand next to you and like, you and are friends with you and think it's cool to be friends with you because you're Drake and all of these things.

[Ebro Darden]

And you're a nice guy.

[Rosenberg]

And yeah, you're a nice guy. You had a good experience with them. But they also like Kendrick. And when y' all get into the middle of a thing and it's hip hop and it's a thing, people are gonna, like, dance to a song or, like, a song. And you being like, how he literally says this. How dare you party next to me and then celebrate while my opps are. Bro, Our whole life isn't about you and your opps. Like, we love hip hop as much as we love you, Drake. We love the music that you've made.

[Ebro Darden]

But he's talking about people who have, you know, been to his house, you know, hung out, been on vacations, I'm assuming with their.

[Rosenberg]

He definitely talked about vacations. He talks about vacation.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, he's always talked about let's not act like Drake talking about vacations is new. No, we're not gonna do. We are not gonna act like going on vacation with Drake is a new concept.

[Rosenberg]

No, people are apparently going.

[Ebro Darden]

We've been doing. No, I'm saying albums.

[Rosenberg]

We've gone to Greece.

[Ebro Darden]

We've gone everywhere. So many places, so many trips, so many skus.

[Rosenberg]

See, that's why I can't have anything.

[Ebro Darden]

No, but look, he gave us so many. Listen, what we're also not gonna do is act like Drake doesn't know his magic. He gave us his attempt at a full rap album.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, here.

[Ebro Darden]

He gave us a full R B vibe album. And he gave us a full kind of dance club, crossover, rhythmic pop album.

[Rosenberg]

So just like how we feel that Drake is never going to give us that absolute hip hop classic. I said hip hop classic.

[Ebro Darden]

Go with rap. Go with rap classic.

[Rosenberg]

Rap classic. There you go. If that makes you feel better. Just like many people feel. He's not going to give us that ultimate rap classic that A J has or a Nas has or a Kendrick has or some would say J. Cole has. And maybe we feel he's not capable of doing that. That maid of honor. And what's the other one? Habibty Habibti. Are any of the people that we just mentioned capable of doing those?

[Ebro Darden]

No, Absolutely none of them.

[Laura Styles]

No, no, no.

[Rosenberg]

None of the greats can make maid of honor. Maybe they wouldn't want to, but they can't do it. Yo, that Drake is capable the Jedi mind trick of making songs about wanting to basically have sex with every woman in the world while also making the music that is their best friend is some ill ish we've never seen before.

[Ebro Darden]

That's great. It's great.

[Rosenberg]

He has multiple songs with bestie on the title. I'd like to point that out. There are multiple. There's the classic bestie and then there's your new bestie.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, he wrote a song. Hoe phase is fire. Yo, ho phase is fire.

[Rosenberg]

He understands the whole phase. No, because he's been the guy to be on the receiving end of it, I'm sure. Many times.

[Ebro Darden]

Listen, man, that album.

[Rosenberg]

No, that album is a.

[Ebro Darden]

You could put that.

[Rosenberg]

You could put that maid of honor on At a party at 10 o' clock and let it rock for 90 minutes.

[Ebro Darden]

Let it rock.

[Rosenberg]

And not a lot of people can do that.

[Ebro Darden]

So we could be critical about everything. Gordo, man. Yo, man, shout to Gordo on production, bro. Like, the production's real. Yeah, man, I didn't.

[Rosenberg]

You're not going to believe this. I didn't even hate Sexy Red doing the cha cha slide.

[Ebro Darden]

There you go.

[Rosenberg]

I didn't. You didn't hate it on paper. I'm like, this is the most unneeded thing in the history.

[Ebro Darden]

But is it, though? Is it unneeded?

[Rosenberg]

Yes, it is.

[Ebro Darden]

But damn it, it has a level of ridiculousness that I think people will have fun with.

[Rosenberg]

It worked in the context of when I realized where the album was going. I'm like, oh, this is really just. Girls could put this on and party for the whole. That's why you're gonna like.

[Ebro Darden]

It is a good party joint. ELR. ELR3, jump in on this Drake albums convo. Which one did you like? Did you like any of it? Listen, the. The biggest problem I have with this, these three albums is I feel like Drake went like nine for 40.

[Rosenberg]

What songs?

[Ebro Darden]

Like, there's nine amazing joints out of

[Rosenberg]

a batch of 40amazing.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, like nine songs that I'm like, yo, these. This is a heater.

[Rosenberg]

There's the headline. We did all this talk of new and all this nuanced Drake talk, and Ebro just ruins it by the clip. Now being Ebro says Drake goes 9 for 40.

[Ebro Darden]

9 for 40 from the field's not what you want, however, from the field.

[Rosenberg]

But as a baseball average, 240, 250. These days, that's a great ball player.

[Ebro Darden]

There you go.

[Rosenberg]

I think I would say less amazing than nine, but more really good than nine.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

I would say overall, it's over 20 for four.

[Ebro Darden]

And by the way, I'm saying that's. That's like the biggest problem, right? The second biggest problem is I think the redundancy of the, you know, talking about the beef and, you know, it just was like it kept going and it kept going and it was. And which is why I think Iceman could be chopped down by four or five records.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, that's fair. I think that's fair. I think Iceman being chopped down. Like I said maid of honor a little bit. I didn't quite make it to the end of habit. Shouts to Donnell Jones, those gonna get a nice little check. That was I'm feeling you and I'm.

[Ebro Darden]

I like Fort Worth on that, habibti. And I like. Is that on a beep? Am I saying it right? Making that record classic.

[Rosenberg]

You're taking risk by jumping into song titles. But yeah, he had. He had the one song when he hit the I'm. I'm feeling you and I'm wanting you from. But it's That's a really. There's some really good R B records on that.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, so now I love that you brought up Rosenberg, your expectations of Drake, right? Because I feel like there's a lot of people who had these unrealistic expectations and I don't know where they come from. Like, because when I heard all of this music this weekend, I was. This sounds like Drake to me. Like, this sounds like Drake. Like, I don't understand why people don't.

[Rosenberg]

I was put on.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay, that's fine.

[Rosenberg]

Just that initially you're like, what is this? What mean do you. You doing?

[Ebro Darden]

Right?

[Rosenberg]

And so I was kind of. I think I was being biased in my initial assessment because I'm like, I don't want three hours.

[Ebro Darden]

He's also doing what kind of what Beyonce said she was gonna do. Remember, Rena, you had Renaissance was its own vibe.

[Rosenberg]

Fix your lips.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, no, Renaissance was his own vibe. Cowboy Carter was on Vibe. We're supposed to get a third installment, which is a whole other vibe, right? That she said that like, that. We've known that for a while. He just put his all out one weekend. She stretched hers all out over most,

[Laura Styles]

I think also the energy behind Drake. Expecting Drake to do something or be someone or be that.

[Rosenberg]

That.

[Laura Styles]

That give. Giving you the perfect rap album, right? It also is because of the energy behind the beef. They're like, what is he gonna say next? Like, is he gonna come for Kendrick? Is he gonna demolish everything? Like, so people had high expectations of that. But I, you know, even the little subs that he did that were going towards Kendrick, I just thought, okay, I

[Ebro Darden]

think too, you know, and I think about the great rappers a lot, right? Like, we just watched Nas release how many albums that the hip hop culture has had affinity for or loved? 5 in the last like six years or something. Something like that. One of Jay's greatest albums, I think to a lot of jay fans is 444 like people. I've seen people put that 4, 4, 4 in top 5J album.

[Laura Styles]

I love that album, right?

[Ebro Darden]

However, they weren't celebrated in the same ways as their albums at their highest heights were. And drake is a 40 year old dad, right, who is trying to build his next chapter. So I think I didn't have. I knew everybody expected this release to feel like views or to feel like one of those, you know, want to take care or one of those, like, you know, big out, you know, big album releases, right? If you're reading this and although great material was released, I knew that would be a challenge in this climate. And it was loud this weekend was still very loud.

[Rosenberg]

Because it was like.

[Ebro Darden]

It was very loud. It's very loud because it was Drake. But like, people got to get accustomed to the fact that Drake is settling into this is after the highest height, you know, I mean, I don't.

[Rosenberg]

That's the part. People aren't settling into that though. And he's not settling into that.

[Ebro Darden]

No, he will never. He will never.

[Rosenberg]

Just like, that's the shortcoming also. The shortcoming is not accepting when you're in the new place.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And how do I make new albums that aren't gonna be exactly that, like. But that takes people a long time.

[Ebro Darden]

Very. Tom Brady's still struggling with it. Like, remember there was like rumors last year that Tom Brady was getting offers to come back and play quarterback. And we were like, yeah, but the

[Rosenberg]

difference is a football player can't do it. An artist in theory can.

[Ebro Darden]

Can they?

[Rosenberg]

But you're only gonna run into a classic like that if you're comfortable in the place you're in and you're making with.

[Laura Styles]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

That's why four, four, four hit.

[Ebro Darden]

Right?

[Rosenberg]

Because guys, we are not going to act like people are looking back super fondly. And it had joints that I liked on Magna Carta, Holy Grail, Blueprint 3. Some of those albums, yes, they have good moments. As I always say. Pluck a couple songs.

[Ebro Darden]

Blueprint 3 is better than Blueprint 2.

[Rosenberg]

In retrospect, I don't know. I spent a lot of time on Blueprint 2 recently. I don't know. Again, too many songs.

[Ebro Darden]

Blueprint. What about Blueprint 2.0?

[Rosenberg]

That's different. No, that's different. But no, but again, those albums ended up being, oh, I got a couple of greatest hits joints to pluck for the live show. But that's kind of what happens. You move on. Then you come into a 4, 4, 4, and you hit this complete body of work.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, cuz Jay had something new to

[Rosenberg]

talk about and he was cut and he was gonna. I'm gonna live here. I'm gonna owned it. I'm gonna live on.

[Ebro Darden]

And I think the. Some of the blowback. Let me see. There was a clip that I thought a guy was pretty thoughtful. Go to clip two there, Rahsaan for me. So I just listened to the Drake album, but what I noticed, he's turned into the old N at the club. Two most revealing words on Drake's new album, Dig Deeper. He literally says he know he got some healing to do. He know he got Some things to work on. But the idea of digging into his own scares the out of him. Drake is now a representative of black men's refusal and inability to see the need to grow. Drake is about to be 40 years old and the repetitive themes that he's talked about his whole career, they continue to regurgitate in his music. You got the theme of I versus Day. When you have a certain perspective to hyper focus on yourself. There will be an absence of the inclusion of other, especially when it comes to the black and brown community and how much work we need 40 year old black man and not have any context. The conjecture on the state of black America, what's going on with our people, how the men that praise and follow you can level up in some way, shape or form.

[Rosenberg]

It is. It's a very good clip.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know who that was. And if you y' all know in the chat who that was, that was sent to me, so I couldn't find the original clip but. So I want to shout him out because I thought that was thoughtful.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah. And it is a theme throughout the album. You can hear that he does want to go sort of further, but is not able to quite.

[Ebro Darden]

He's not ready, is not able, doesn't want to do it. You know, I saw somebody talking about he's not going to give them that on this album. You know, he's got to renegotiate his deal.

[Rosenberg]

Okay, calm down everyone. Yo, but I will tell you one thing that jumps out to me. I have never. There may not be a better guest on earth for validate me than Drake.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, God,

[Rosenberg]

no, no, I'm not holding my breath. But I'm just saying is though. I mean, I love the guy, but the amount of sex addict talk that comes through this album, I mean, he. Yo, your man can't stop.

[Ebro Darden]

He.

[Rosenberg]

He. Every woman to him is like he sees every one. I'm just believing what the lyrics are, by the way, okay? And I am not.

[Ebro Darden]

And you're taking that face value. Cause it could all be an act.

[Rosenberg]

It could all be an act. And I'm not. And by the way, I'm not. I'm not hating on this man Drake. I'm not Shawny, all right? Shawnie used to hate on this man's epic record. Your man is like Derek Jeter on steroids. His run is unlike anything we've ever seen. Okay? No one's gonna hate on that. But he does just seem like if you believe again, if you just listen to the lyrics. Yo, I just performed at 20,000 fans. Now you want me to spend 20,000 bands. Every, every girl who he meets, it seems like is this challenge he needs to accomplish. And it's like, how many can you possibly need to accomplish? There's never going to be enough. Your man probably has wilt like numbers. We've never seen a run like this, right? Like he's not just talented, he's not just seemingly a ladies man. He's a very good looking guy. He's charming, all the things. And if you listen to the music again, and he does seem to put some reality in his music, he just sounds like a guy who's absolutely obsessed with sleeping with every woman humanly possible. And there's. I just don't think he's ever going to get to a point when he goes, well, that last one was it. I really feel full. I, I now believe women like me for who I am.

[Ebro Darden]

I think, I think we should get into that more on a Patreon, right? Because I think that, you know, most men sit around and are watching you right now and are going in the back of their minds, even if that's not who they are anymore, and going, what's wrong with that?

[Rosenberg]

No, because we're taught, we're taught it's normal. We're taught that we are as men, we are taught that if you are single, the normal thing to be doing is trying to conquer every single woman humanly possible.

[Ebro Darden]

And, and like you said, we're trained at program socially it's acceptable. Women reinforce that concept often with the boys will be boys and all men are dogs and all men cheat. And kind of this whole thing where it's almost like, yeah, that's just what it is. Right. You know what I mean? So, but yeah, you know, it is a, it is a space where, you know, you, if you stay in that space and you don't actually peel back on what you're actually looking for and why.

[Rosenberg]

Well, and you have that access to, right? I mean, Drake on any given night in any given city, like, I thought about this yesterday, I was like, you know, it'd be a really fun interview game with Drake that you could never play with him. And he would never say. But if you were to be like, hey, tell me, I'm gonna name a random city, Tell me about the hot woman that you have in that city. You could literally do it about every city on planet Earth and it would keep going. He'd be like, oh, well, Wes, you know, West Palm is different than Fort Lauderdale. I mean, I'VE got, you know, so it's just. With that kind of access, it's even harder to. Now turn it off. That's hard. Hey, we got a big, huge.

[Laura Styles]

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[Rosenberg]

Super Chat.

[Ebro Darden]

Super Chat time.

[Rosenberg]

Kendo. Just. Just one. But Kendo came through with 99.99 Kendo 101 episodes and counting. Keep it growing Family. Coffee and bagels are on me.

[Ebro Darden]

That's very nice.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, that's.

[Ebro Darden]

People really enjoyed the 100th episode. I don't know if they enjoyed the balloons.

[Rosenberg]

Say sorry. Say sorry. I'm Griffin.

[Laura Styles]

Laura Hebrew.

[Rosenberg]

That was the only thing we did.

[Laura Styles]

I know. That's how people were like, oh, my God.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it was in the caption.

[Rosenberg]

Yo.

[Ebro Darden]

It was in the caption. It was.

[Rosenberg]

Griff, Laura, great job. Balloon committee.

[Laura Styles]

It was really grif.

[Rosenberg]

Griff, you did a great job.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo. And then, yo, this is. How much are y' all thinking? We're on a budget. They were trying to save the balloons.

[Laura Styles]

We were. Now we were just putting them in the bag.

[Rosenberg]

No, you saved 100. But don't buy another three zeros. Just get a kid.

[Ebro Darden]

For a hundred thousand subscribers, all you

[Rosenberg]

need is a K. That's one more bit. That's all you need, guys. Now, speaking of a K, we got to get into Cars for Kids.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, goodness.

[Laura Styles]

Random crazy thing, Ebert, you had mentioned it to me.

[Ebro Darden]

No, I sent it. So this came across Ebro's Algo a long time ago, and I sent it like, yo. But I didn't know if they were just like. It was all, you know. I didn't have a way to figure it out. And I wasn't going to the Cars4Kids website.

[Rosenberg]

I did. I did all the research. When you said it the first time we talked about it. Yeah, I went down the full rabbit hole myself.

[Ebro Darden]

Really?

[Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

I didn't know this. We never.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, bro. I knew. How. I'm like, here's my logic. I don't remember if it was you who sent it to me initially, but it was six. Six months to a year ago was when I first Started hearing Cars for Kids might really be some Israel propaganda outlet. And here's why. The reason I went down the rabbit hole was the same reason my dad was like legitimately upset on Saturday when I spoke to him. Because of all the things that have made would make the average person think that Jews are just out of their mind and terrible as a collective because of the terrible behavior of Israel. This struck me and apparently my dad the same way of this is really bad because everybody knows and hates this commercial. Everybody.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And maybe some people like it, but you have a relationship with.

[Ebro Darden]

And it's a great tune. And even if you're annoyed by the 1 877, whatever it is, you're going, it's for the kids.

[Laura Styles]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

That part.

[Laura Styles]

Right.

[Ebro Darden]

It's for the kids. I donate a car and help some kids.

[Rosenberg]

Here's how I viewed it. I viewed it as you don't want to get rid of your car. It's annoying to get rid of the car. We'll come take the car. Which I think this part is what it is. You'll get a write off. Great.

[Ebro Darden]

Tax write off.

[Rosenberg]

But they're saying Cars for Kids.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

So I'm assuming then either those cars will go to needy families who need a car or if the car is unsalvageable, they will sell the car and the money will somehow go to benefit kids, right? Correct.

[Laura Styles]

Kids in need. Yeah. Children in need. Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

That's what the commercial sounds like.

[Ebro Darden]

And they take houses too.

[Rosenberg]

Now when I remember I heard that was like Tate's hat. And real estate.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, boats and real estate.

[Rosenberg]

So I heard that after I'd already heard that it was really like an Israel operation. So then when I heard the now taking real estate, I was like, oh, oh my God.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, so in the state of California,

[Laura Styles]

I got the guy.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay, go ahead.

[Laura Styles]

Bruce Puterbaugh, he sued Cars for Kids in this landmark lawsuit basically because the charity, he got them banned from the California airwaves because of this.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura Styles]

So yeah. Which is. Which is really big. But the charity allegedly, you know, was a false advertising. But they're saying that it. The money went to a New York and New Jersey based Orthodox Jewish outreach organization where the majority of the donations went to religious camps, trips to Israel and real estate purchases.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, essentially it's a variety of stuff from what I read. And this is when I got confused. Well, and.

[Ebro Darden]

But also. Sorry to cut you off. Also I know noticed in the lawsuit the man said in the commercial is a variety of children. Yes, the TV commercial, the assumption Is that it's for all kids, not specifically one group.

[Laura Styles]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

Because the kids are multi ethnic.

[Ebro Darden]

Because they could argue it is for kids. Jewish kids, Orthodox Jewish kids who want

[Rosenberg]

to go to Israel.

[Ebro Darden]

Who want to go to Israel.

[Rosenberg]

They could argue poor Jewish kids.

[Ebro Darden]

Not poor, not needy. They don't say any of that. Right. They could argue it's absolutely for kids and families with kids.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah. The judge was like, nah, fam, you didn't. You didn't say that in the jingle. You didn't say that in the visuals. Like, no, like, not having it.

[Ebro Darden]

And then the. The vetting process, I think will. I mean, if this goes the way I think it will go, other attorney generals from other states will pick it up.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

And then they'll begin to go, and by the way, this is where you needed a functional federal government. Okay. Because at a certain point, the federal government would have to investigate. Why is this a nonprofit organization?

[Rosenberg]

That's that part. That part. Although, listen, where we live right now, what will happen is we'll see whoever runs Cars for Kids in the White House shaking hands with the president, and he'll be like, this is a witch hunt. We're gonna make sure that you guys get more cars than ever. But I'm making that up. But that's what I know. Our government's like, this. This is bad, though. This. This to me was just the kind of thing that makes, like, if you have crazy conspiracy theories about Jewish people, this is just so reinforcing of that. Of, like, wait, the Cars for Kids.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Is a secret. And like, so when I went to the website initially, I tried to, like, figure out. And it's very confusing. Like, it is clearly related to Jewish stuff.

[Ebro Darden]

And.

[Rosenberg]

And like, kids and. But, like, it. They make it very vague. But all I know is I'm looking at them like, this is not what it sounds like. The commercial.

[Laura Styles]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

If you go look, you're like, it doesn't listen. It doesn't look like they're creating settler movements or doing anything like, terrible to harm people.

[Ebro Darden]

But we have to assume that they might be.

[Rosenberg]

Well, no, I just assume that you're lying still. About what the point of it is. It's pr. It's PR for a country, essentially.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. But also, why would you lie?

[Rosenberg]

Because you could. Well, yeah. Why would you lie? Because you want to get as much money as possible. If you said it was, hey, eight, seven, seven cars for Israel, people are not doing that. Kids is the problem. The problem is the word kids.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah. And that was. That guy's Whole thing, it's like. I thought it was for all children. He's like. And it's not even children. He's like, it was teenagers going and going on trips. On trips.

[Rosenberg]

So that's what I kept looking for. I'm like, wait, are these teenagers in need? And then in my brain, I'm going,

[Laura Styles]

I need to go to Israel in

[Rosenberg]

need of summer plans.

[Laura Styles]

I know.

[Rosenberg]

No, everyone knows that when your kids

[Ebro Darden]

are in need of a birthright trip.

[Rosenberg]

When your kid's in need of summer plans. Listen, it's a big frustration for the whole family, so it's terrible.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, man.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, listen, we all heard the commercial and didn't do the work that Rosenberg did. Congratulations.

[Rosenberg]

Well, I did it. After 30 years of hearing it. I'm no hero. It was last summer, I was sitting on the toilet and I go, what is this? Cars for kids? Another website? What is this?

[Ebro Darden]

Israel.

[Rosenberg]

I know. And then in my brain, I do naturally go, like, I hope. I don't want anyone to know about this. This is terrible. I hope. I hope this isn't true. It's not true. It's not true. Close the phone. It's not true. No. It can't be this bad. And then, like. And then it comes out. I'm like, it really is that bad.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

So, I mean, that's what they're saying. That's what. That's what California said. Yeah, California said.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, and. And. And speaking of that bad, you guys know that, like, there are several opportunities around the country for Democrats to hold people accountable who broke the law during the election. Are you guys hearing about these headlines? So the governor of Colorado is about to pardon the woman who was convicted of voter fraud in the state.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, okay.

[Ebro Darden]

She was cheating on behalf of maga, is not remorseful at all. Was sentenced to seven years, and the governor of Colorado is about to let her slide.

[Laura Styles]

I want grounds. Why?

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know the grounds. I don't know the why, but, you know, yeah, it's about to happen. But it's also like, you know, the moderate. This, like, moderate Democrat thing is really in shambles.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. You mean in terms of it just not being.

[Ebro Darden]

In terms of perception? In terms of, like, you know, when you look at polling and Democrat, they say Democratic, like favorability. Favorability numbers are as low as Trump's on a national level.

[Rosenberg]

And yet Mandani is so incredibly popular.

[Ebro Darden]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

AOC is very popular.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right.

[Rosenberg]

Talarico seems to be very popular.

[Ebro Darden]

We'll see.

[Rosenberg]

He needs to win the general. But he seems very popular.

[Ebro Darden]

Say again?

[Rosenberg]

Bernie.

[Ebro Darden]

Bernie's popular.

[Rosenberg]

He's always very popular.

[Laura Styles]

Always.

[Rosenberg]

So maybe this is finally it.

[Ebro Darden]

Speaking of aoc, she had some spicy words this weekend.

[Rosenberg]

She was in Alabama, and I saw people posting. She just gave the speech of her lifetime. So let me see. Let's run a little closer.

[Laura Styles]

Is that why she was behind the bulletproof yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah thing? And I am here today because I want to make sure that we all understand that Montgomery is not alone, that you all are not alone. And for all of those watching today, when they ask, what do we do

[Ebro Darden]

in this moment, I feel helpless. What action can I take?

[Laura Styles]

It is time for the north to pull up to the South.

[Rosenberg]

It is time for New York to

[Laura Styles]

pull up to Alabama.

[Ebro Darden]

It is time for all of us

[Laura Styles]

to come to Georgia, to Louisiana, to

[Rosenberg]

Tennessee, to Mississippi, and let them know

[Ebro Darden]

exactly what they have uncorked with this injustice.

[Laura Styles]

They think they can draw us out of power. They do not know the sleeping giant

[Ebro Darden]

that they just awakened

[Laura Styles]

because it is not a coincidence. And our whole country must understand that. It was not until voting rights were ratified in this country that we got the Great Society. Because when black, black Americans have the right to vote, and that vote is protected, our schools get funded. When voting rights are protected, health care gets expanded.

[Ebro Darden]

When voting rights are protected, our country

[Rosenberg]

moves forward in Montgomery.

[Ebro Darden]

That's what they're actually afraid of. They're afraid of us coming together. They're afraid of us protecting one another. Now, this past weekend, shout out to Roland Martin and his whole team over there. Lou, what was the. They had. There was a. The down in Selma. They walked the bridge at the Pettis Bridge down there. AOC was down in Montgomery, Alabama. That was a whole voting rights protection rally. They have. AOC also spoke at Ebenezer Church in Atlanta, Georgia.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, wow. She was really doing the round.

[Ebro Darden]

She was moving around. Now, what did. We carried something on our channel this weekend, Lou, that you were active in making sure that it was. It got out. What was that all about? Yeah,

[Rosenberg]

good stuff, man.

[Ebro Darden]

Thank you so much. Geez, I can't talk. What you were saying was some. So we carried the church and the rally. Got it. So hopefully you guys got to see that on the channel. But we worked together with a bunch of other channels on YouTube to make sure because I don't know how many people actually saw that. Did the news carry that this weekend? I didn't see it.

[Laura Styles]

I only saw it online.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, because it wasn't. That wasn't heavily in my algorithm at All.

[Laura Styles]

No, I would not say heavily. I think somebody sent me a clip. That's the only reason I saw it. Which is weird, because normally would pop up on my algorithm.

[Ebro Darden]

But it's not weird. It's the way it's supposed to be happening. Because your algorithm is controlled by tech billionaires who don't want you to see this voting rights stuff. Your TikTok is controlled by the Ellison family, some Christian nationalist Zionists or, you know, whatever that stuff is. So you're not going to see it heavily there either. And then what news outlet is covering this?

[Rosenberg]

Right, yeah, that part.

[Ebro Darden]

So I only want to point that out is because now all we have is each other. Right Back to the Jason Lee interview. No, I'm kidding.

[Rosenberg]

And that's why we're coming together.

[Ebro Darden]

You know what I mean? But. But it. But it was a thing. Like, it was. Who was in there? I have a group chat that I have with me, Sway, Gail King, Roland Martin, and a number of other people, black people who work in media that like, when things are happening, we're like, yo, did you see this? Hey, this is happening. And Roland sent that to all of us. Like, can you guys carry this? I don't know how many of them in the group chat have their own platforms and channels, but we happen to have one, so we were able to participate.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rosenberg]

No, AOC was on her. Dean, right there, man, she sounded awesome. Excited. The fact that someone needs to give her a better microphone. I don't know what was like a shore 57, but. But, like, she really. I. I more and more start to think as much as I used to think. It was early that, like. And I don't even know. She's not 35 yet, is she? She is. It might be now for aoc, Guys,

[Laura Styles]

I'm sorry, it's a little early.

[Rosenberg]

What do we. But we might have a country. If we wait too long. If we wait too long, there may not be an election.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, you have two things. She's a Latina.

[Rosenberg]

I don't like that you have to say it that way. Why do you.

[Ebro Darden]

Because that's how they would say she Latina.

[Rosenberg]

That doesn't mean you have to.

[Ebro Darden]

She Hispanic.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

She's a woman. She's a she.

[Laura Styles]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

We just struck out three times with She's. Yeah, so she's got a little bit of headwind as far as sexism is concerned in this culture of American politics.

[Laura Styles]

And she's a nasty woman.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, that's right.

[Laura Styles]

You know what I mean?

[Ebro Darden]

She used to Be apart.

[Rosenberg]

Wait, wait. We struck out three times.

[Ebro Darden]

Hillary. Oh, no, twice. Hillary and Kamalia.

[Laura Styles]

Twice.

[Rosenberg]

I know. The only person we were able to get elected was the over 75 year old white guy. That's all we could do.

[Ebro Darden]

But that speaks to the culture. He's a man. He's a man.

[Laura Styles]

He's a man.

[Rosenberg]

And you know, you know, AOC is a very beautiful woman. You know, the incels get weird about attractive ladies that.

[Laura Styles]

I always think that's a beautiful woman in power. That's, that's in so meltdown.

[Rosenberg]

I think that's informed a lot of the hate towards AOC too. I know, I'm big on that. But I really do think people, they get so weird.

[Laura Styles]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

They're like, I don't like these feelings that I have for how attractive she.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, no, but on the other side you have. There's a. You know, studies have been done on women who don't want to see you on television anymore because they're worried about their man being attracted to you. So women are gonna hate on you because you're attracting.

[Laura Styles]

That's the thing too.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't want this woman on my tv.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Ebro Darden]

Trying to take my man. Jolene.

[Rosenberg]

I don't, I don't understand. I don't fold, Joe.

[Ebro Darden]

No, that Jolene song was about, like, don't take my man. You're beautiful.

[Rosenberg]

So. So. But I do think like AOC is the ultimate candidate who has true experience, is a great charismatic speaker, is really, really progressive. But we have seen, and I know it's disappointed some people at other times we've seen when she knows she needs to play ball to get things done, but her instincts are incredibly progressive. You know what I mean? Like, that's where she, that's where she is as a person, but not. So she's a modern day Bernie. And that's really.

[Laura Styles]

And that's why they're hand in hand the majority of the time.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Laura Styles]

She is. Right. Whenever he is, whatever state he's in, she's right there.

[Rosenberg]

No, we got it. Next time we talk to her, we got to ask her about that. That they've been. They have to be like straight up BFFs.

[Ebro Darden]

He's mentoring her. Yeah. I thought she worked for him.

[Rosenberg]

No, I know, but now, now it's been years.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, but you know, mom, Donnie also is in that same. That's the same squad. That's the, the crew.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, but I just see her whenever Bernie is at any rally. I see her also speaking and also supporting.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's a cool thing to see.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

But I really. I don't know who else. You're right. Maybe she would lose for all the

[Ebro Darden]

reasons you just mentioned, but that doesn't mean I don't think she should run. And, like, who would get more excited. Right. Because I do believe we're going to have to see individuals run for the sake of, of helping create a conversation and help push an agenda. And they may get to a point and lose, but a real successful presidential candidate will pay attention if they're really in there to try to do the job. Right. And a great example is, you know, some people disagree with me, but I think Mamdani is trying to do the best for a majority of New Yorkers.

[Laura Styles]

He has to.

[Ebro Darden]

Not just the rich, not just one religious segment, not just. But a majority of the population. Right. Anyone that's doing these jobs, that's what the job used to be. It would be like, hey, I have my things that I think are a good idea. But I'm also hearing from a large swath of the voting population that says this is important to them. I'm going to incorporate that into my platform. Right. She needs to do that for that, to be a part of it. Right. Because it's working people, like everything that you see them talking about is working class families, Americans, and, and what the American ideals are supposed to be, protecting voter rights is supposed to be. I mean, it's in, by the way, it's in the original document.

[Rosenberg]

No, it's that. That's a basic, fundamental one right there.

[Ebro Darden]

Right. And so doing the work to protect that as people try to do work to keep it unprotected is why you have to vote on a local level. It's why you gotta actively vote for your state representatives. And I think that's why she's down in Alabama, to really galvanize and, and pull money. Right. Because she can pull money. Her profile now can pull money to pull money down into those areas, get people donating, get people rallying, get, you know, activists showing up and getting people out to vote. Because there's also conversations happening around. There are. And I think we saw this with Trump too. What they remember when they were talking about the flyover states, remember that whole conversation about flyover states. And there's a whole piece of America that just feels like they've been forgotten. The black community in many places, in many pockets around the country feels the same. Like, what's the point? Yeah, I've gone out and voted. My grandmother was out voting. We dealing with all of this, they still got Confederate flags flying at the state capitol. You know what I'm saying? Like, what do we even talk about? And. And I think that apathy sets in. But that's what they want. They want you to feel so disenfranchised that you're not even gonna show up to participate anymore.

[Rosenberg]

You want it is what it is.

[Ebro Darden]

I just want a piece. I. Yeah, right. And so they're gonna beat you into submission. And I think this is an opportunity for us to, you know, not only come together, activate, and also show people that we can affect voting in other parts of the country in a positive way. Are you ready for the rundown?

[Laura Styles]

Sure, let's do it.

[Ebro Darden]

Laura got the rundown.

[Rosenberg]

Turn that up. Screens on GLOW when she pulled up

[Ebro Darden]

headlines heavy, but we still caught up. Yo shout to just Thrive as we get into the rundown. Rosenberg hits the gummies when he walks in the room. The just, Just Thrive gummies are over there on the cabinet. Laura Styles. Laura Styles is on it now. Laura Styles is the OG Probiotic. Probiotic taker on the program.

[Laura Styles]

That's why I love Just Thrive so much, because it's easy, they're tasty. But listen, if you want a healthy, balanced situation, if your gut is giving you trouble, man, probiotics are just good. They're just good for you. You need them. So you do your own research so you can see how, how they benefit you. And I love the convenience of just drive. And I just like that they taste good.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, I want to point out too, for the audience, how do you know probiotics are for you? Do you feel like after you eat your low energy or like after lunchtime, your stomach is like fighting itself?

[Laura Styles]

Yeah. Discomfort, like all the time.

[Ebro Darden]

That means you need some good. You need some good in your gut. And probiotics are that for you. Just Thrive has it.

[Rosenberg]

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[Ebro Darden]

Matter of fact, we're gonna be wrapping this show up because I hit that Just Thrive this morning and I got an appointment.

[Rosenberg]

Damn, bro, we might be.

[Laura Styles]

I could not.

[Rosenberg]

Might be a half hour.

[Laura Styles]

All right. El army, trust us, we love to just drive gummies. Go, go get One of you.

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, I love them, too. Keeps it moving, baby. Laura, what you got in the rundown?

[Laura Styles]

Anyway, okay, so I was going to go through a bunch of, like, you know, the. The disses that stuck out that everybody was talking about, you know, throughout the. Throughout all three albums, right? So I know on Janice. Did you see when Janice Shut the

[Ebro Darden]

F Up is my joint? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Laura Styles]

It says, this is towards Kendrick. The line that says, white kids listen to you because they feel some type of guilt. That's how your soul gets fulfilled. Handing out turkeys on camera inside your hood. Then you go back to the hills. I thought that was interesting because I'm like, didn't you do that with God's plan?

[Rosenberg]

Damn. Why you, Laura? Why you do that? Why is the problem?

[Laura Styles]

And I defended him in that video, remember? I was like, this is great. He's changing lives.

[Ebro Darden]

Wait, no, wait. But wait, but, Laura, you're bringing up something sensitive because if you recall, Rosenberg went.

[Laura Styles]

I know.

[Ebro Darden]

He. He went.

[Laura Styles]

I know.

[Ebro Darden]

Nuclear.

[Laura Styles]

I know.

[Ebro Darden]

I went nuclear. It was nuclear. I mean, that's how people received. You going in on Guy. You hated that.

[Laura Styles]

I mean, that's. You got a call.

[Rosenberg]

I did. But that was more than turkeys, by the way. Yeah. I will say that he gave away

[Laura Styles]

a lot of money.

[Rosenberg]

But also, Kendrick gives way, way more than turkey. Like, it's just a. The part that stands out to me is he says, white kids. What is the line?

[Laura Styles]

White kids listen to you because they feel some type of guilt, and that's how your soul gets fulfilled.

[Rosenberg]

My problem is I. Drake has too many white kids who feel no guilt. Yeah, he has. The white kids don't even feel guilt when they say the N word. Yes, that's my problem.

[Ebro Darden]

See? And now somebody's gonna take this clip. We have such a positive show talking about, and you see what happens? That happens to me. It happens to me. What you just did happens to me regarding.

[Rosenberg]

Because I'm triggered by this line.

[Ebro Darden]

You're triggered by the fact that you have a guy who is irresponsible with his platform. Right? He has a platform. He's irresponsible with it. Right. He has participated in a culture that we know represents something important. Right. And what it represents, he doesn't take care of. And so he says a line like that and you immediately go, you know, the problem I really have because it

[Rosenberg]

tapped into, like, I'm tired of people acting as if it's a bad thing that there would be white kids out there who in Kendrick hear, oh, this is a black man telling me about things that as a white person in America I should hear. That's important. This is like education.

[Ebro Darden]

But that's how you were raised on hip hop.

[Rosenberg]

That's why I got into hip hop. And my biggest issue was when I remember me and Mac Miller talked about this years ago, because I judged Mac when I first saw him, because I went to a concert of his and it was him performing in front of, like, 2,000 white kids. And I was like, oh, my God, I see the end of hip hop. It's white suburban kids performing for 2,000 white kids. This is where it all ends. Now, what I didn't know about Mac was that he would become this ultra responsible hip hop artist with diverse artists around who promoted great ideals. But if you don't do that and you don't care for it, yeah, that's. That's a problem. And it's a little throwaway line. I get it. But, like, it's indicative of a large problem. And obviously there are plenty of. Of course they're mad kids who love Kendrick and love Drake, and there are white kids who love Drake and are not okay with being racist. But we see that some of the racist ones gravitate towards Tim.

[Ebro Darden]

Here's the other part. During the battle, Drake said to Kendrick, you're trying to rap like you free in the slave. Yeah, people have. Black people had a problem with that. People had a problem with that. He didn't listen again, he's still not listening because he's still playing around with the same idea of Kendrick trying to appeal to people who need to learn something or free their minds from something. And that's the issue. That's not the issue.

[Rosenberg]

Right?

[Ebro Darden]

That is not the issue.

[Rosenberg]

He has other lines, Laurie. I'm sure you'll give us some. He has other lines that I think hit that are like, that's an appropriate response to Kendrick, but I don't think that one is okay.

[Laura Styles]

So there's a few more. Let me see. I don't have all of them, as a matter of fact.

[Rosenberg]

Play the clip.

[Laura Styles]

We have a clip. Clip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do the clip.

[Ebro Darden]

Get my first one, like, my last one. It's a classic. You don't have one. How do they say they got classics? If it's that you never revisited, and if that's revisited, then why am I boss of the business? What is it? The braids? What is it? The braids.

[Rosenberg]

Even when I cut them, I could never fade.

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, it's drizzy. Drake like beat your ass and hide the Bible. If God watch you talking about hiding

[Rosenberg]

the Bible, maybe y' all should Reader

[Ebro Darden]

page iced out crosses on their necks thinking Jesus saves. Well, even if he does, either way, the blasphemy you talk let me know that your amazing grace gonna be delayed. You should be ashamed the fact you had to bring those talks to get some decent plays. Goodness grace. That's.

[Rosenberg]

That's a response disrespect. I think that Oakland show go free.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, last night.

[Rosenberg]

Got an Oakland show tonight, baby.

[Ebro Darden]

My young boys from the yacht going crazy. I'm glad the rose came home. Y' all did deserve him.

[Rosenberg]

Neither from a lot.

[Ebro Darden]

You must have been dealing in spur the moment. Why do we think you could get us a ring? They bragging about how you went home. They own Cody. We threw him away. G Pop sent us a real one from Dayo and next thing we knew,

[Rosenberg]

we was doing parades.

[Ebro Darden]

You run to Atlanta when you need a check balance. Let me Atlanta tell you about my R. You know what I'm saying? Ask Pluto bank of 21. You know what I'm saying?

[Rosenberg]

I really like the Bible one. That one response I like. Okay, you don't.

[Ebro Darden]

I like them. I mean, they're all fine.

[Rosenberg]

No, I mean some.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, I'm over it. I'm all. Guys, I'm sorry.

[Rosenberg]

You're over it?

[Ebro Darden]

The beef is over. Like, it's already over. I mean, no, it now them not liking each other. Okay, let me. The battle is over.

[Laura Styles]

Wrong.

[Ebro Darden]

The battle is over. They are no longer battling. Do they still have beef and not like each other? Do they represent different things in hip hop? Absolutely. Are they different people that think the other one is full of. Full of shit?

[Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

But as far as the battle is over. So you're just.

[Rosenberg]

This is the first album, though, we've gotten since it happened, so. But I'm just saying you're personally done with it.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm fine. I mean, it was. It was good stuff. All right, so I'm still. When I heard those things. I'm sorry, Laura Styles. When I heard those things, what actually triggered to me was that the Kendrick records still hit harder than those Drake records. Drake had bars right there, but those Kendrick records still hit harder.

[Laura Styles]

All right, here's a few more. The one he went towards, A$AP Rocky, he says, your baby mama ain't even post a single. Damn. Where's she at? Damn. Where's she at? I was a little annoyed because I was like, why are you.

[Rosenberg]

What does the line mean?

[Laura Styles]

Basically saying that Rihanna didn't post, not even a single when he dropped his album.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, that's what he's trying to say.

[Ebro Darden]

But I saw Rihanna promoting the release of his album.

[Laura Styles]

I did, too. They're saying then he has a line that says, I'll take 500k, not the dinner. I would never learn from none of y'.

[Ebro Darden]

All. That was that. That was the whole. I was on Apple Music on Friday talking about that. I was talking about. No, I don't think anybody's really talking about that line. Yeah, that's another shot of hope. Him and Hova been having little exchanges for a while, but.

[Rosenberg]

But. But Jay literally just came out in that interview and said, like, why do people go after Drake in the way that they did? It wasn't right. Like, he kind of defended Drake in the battle.

[Ebro Darden]

It seemed like he thought the battle recorded before the.

[Rosenberg]

I know, but I might have. I might have.

[Laura Styles]

All right.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes. Basking.

[Rosenberg]

I'll say the worst. The worst. Whole lot.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know if you have. It was when he said, you guys

[Rosenberg]

been island hopping, and all of them

[Ebro Darden]

stuff is redacted from the Epstein files. I think that was probably.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, I didn't have that one.

[Ebro Darden]

I heard that line in the album, but I didn't know if that was at Hove.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, there's nobody else in hip

[Ebro Darden]

hop who was redacted from many files, but was hov redacted from a file.

[Laura Styles]

Well, because he wasn't technically mentioning the actual files. That stupid hotline.

[Ebro Darden]

It was an FBI hotline.

[Rosenberg]

Louie Louie, you have something.

[Ebro Darden]

He's alluding to that. And push it. But my point is, is it wasn't redacted.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, he's just being cute, I think, with the idea of redacting.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Laura Styles]

All right.

[Rosenberg]

Diddy's redacted, you know.

[Laura Styles]

All right. And of course, the. The one that's being talked about a lot is his relationship with LeBron James. We mentioned that. Please don't stop asking me what's going on with 23andMe. I'm real and he's not. It's in my DNA. And then he goes at Mustard. I think you guys saw that.

[Rosenberg]

What was the Mustard.

[Laura Styles]

Mustard heard about us. Got to catch up to the slaps. You ain't had a. You ain't had one since me and YG wrapped I cap.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, he had his biggest hit last year.

[Ebro Darden]

He was.

[Rosenberg]

He was in the Super Bowl. Kendrick screamed. I'm trying to.

[Ebro Darden]

Guys. I'm trying to. So my problem with all this is I'm trying To enjoy Iceman. And I'm trying to enjoy habibti. And I'm trying to enjoy maid of honor. Enjoy them. And this stuff makes me not enjoy. Okay, but I don't like that. I feel like. Yeah, I feel like y' all hating. I'm the biggest Drake fan up here, and you guys are a bunch of. I just want to say that.

[Laura Styles]

All right. And then the Rick Ross one. When he says I was Aiden Ross, I was Aiden Ross with the streams before Aiden Ross had ever streamed.

[Rosenberg]

I was Aiden Ross Ross.

[Ebro Darden]

I was hating Rick Ross.

[Rosenberg]

That's a good bar.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

You know, before we forget, I do want to say the one thing that annoys me the most about this whole thing. I don't like that rap has changed in the last few years. The Kendrick, Drake Beef did this breaking down lyrics where now every bar is thought of as. Will it work as a think piece on TikTok of like, what he's saying is aiding Ross, but that's Aiden Ross.

[Ebro Darden]

But that's aideing.

[Rosenberg]

But then Bob Ross and then aids, and you're like, no, I don't think.

[Ebro Darden]

But I'm different than you. I'm annoyed by it, but I like it.

[Rosenberg]

But it's changed what people now consider great lyrics. And I'm like, some of them are good and some of them you try.

[Ebro Darden]

Isn't that forever, though? Isn't that forever? Where there's been rappers who tried too hard and it didn't hit.

[Rosenberg]

I just see people now really performing for that crowd.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, they are, but. But you're annoyed by social media and tiktokers breaking stuff down full stop.

[Rosenberg]

That's it.

[Laura Styles]

Okay, so let's move on. Shakira, Madonna, and BTS are going to headline the first World cup halftime show.

[Rosenberg]

Let's go back to Drake.

[Ebro Darden]

I was going to go, yo into the show. Thanks for coming out.

[Laura Styles]

No, but seriously, I just. Bts, that's gonna be insanity.

[Rosenberg]

Well, it's already gonna be insanity. Yeah.

[Laura Styles]

So to add a little more, the

[Ebro Darden]

BTS thing is gonna be insanity because how many people they gonna have on stage? How many people in that group? 15.

[Laura Styles]

No, I think it's like maybe like seven. I don't know.

[Ebro Darden]

All right, so I was way off with 15.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. That's crazy. No, it's the first time ever. This is how washed the World cup is this time. No one wants to come to the U.S. no one wants to buy the tickets. The energy around it is not high. They created a halftime show like it's the super bowl for the first time ever.

[Laura Styles]

Have you seen the clips of people when they're asking people in different countries, are you going to the World Cup? They were like, why? So I can get deported by ice. No way. I'm not spending my money.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, we're not hot out here, guys. I don't know if you know this. Remember Trump said we're the hottest country in the world.

[Ebro Darden]

For the first time since the Great Depression, more people have moved out of America than moved out in right now.

[Rosenberg]

Really?

[Ebro Darden]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

More.

[Ebro Darden]

More.

[Laura Styles]

Wow.

[Ebro Darden]

More have left America moved out than moved in since. First time since. Great.

[Laura Styles]

Wow.

[Rosenberg]

That's a crazy stat. That's a really crazy stat.

[Laura Styles]

Anyway, guys, let's wrap this up. That was the rundown.

[Ebro Darden]

Shout out to Just Thrive on the show sponsoring get your Just Thrive probiotics. What's our show called?

[Laura Styles]

Elr.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, Shout out to Cozy Earth, too. That Cozy Earth be ringing off in the house. I swear to God. And I. This is not just because they're advertising. Cozy Earth is a real conversation in our house where Jazz will be like, I can't wait to get home and get in my Cozy Earth. All these sheets are different. It's non stop, bro. Bro. Her pajamas. Cozy Earth. She went ham on the Cozy Earth, bro.

[Rosenberg]

Yo, Coach.

[Laura Styles]

Team Cozy.

[Ebro Darden]

That's crazy. All right, look, tomorrow we back in the building. The next couple of weeks, I'll tell the audience, man, it's hit and miss for me. I gotta go to London. I gotta go to San Francisco. Got a lot of work I'm doing this year. We setting up the Apple Music. A new Apple Music studio situation is coming to the world.

[Laura Styles]

Wow. Exciting.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Laura Styles]

That's cool.

[Ebro Darden]

Big deal. Big.

[Rosenberg]

Huge.

[Ebro Darden]

Kind of huge. So we working on that right now. So I got to do some traveling, but we got you.

[Rosenberg]

We got it.

[Ebro Darden]

You hold me down, we're going to

[Rosenberg]

hold this thing down.

[Ebro Darden]

Hold me down.

[Rosenberg]

This ELR show.

[Ebro Darden]

You got it? You got it. We didn't get any calls today. Grip. Nobody wanted to talk about Drake. Two people hung up, man. 844 ELR. ELR 3 is the number. I. I find that interesting.

[Rosenberg]

Nobody wants the phone. I know. Going to give you a month before I hit the phone with the womp.

[Laura Styles]

Womp? Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Huh.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, I'm surprised, but maybe it's like, I wonder if we brought something from radio that we think is, like,

[Ebro Darden]

really and nobody cares. Like, I type it in.

[Rosenberg]

If I want to talk to you, I'll type it in. If not, I'll write you an email. I don't know.

[Laura Styles]

All right, bye, guys.

[Ebro Darden]

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