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Ebro Darden
Whatever your thing, it could be anything.
Rosenberg
Canva helps you make that thing a thing.
Ebro Darden
Canva is a simple online tool thing. It's a way to design with our magic AI tool, things you can social
Rosenberg
media your thing, generate images or videos of your thing, make decks or presentations
Ebro Darden
to show your thing whatever needs to
Rosenberg
be done for your thing. Canva can make it an even better and bigger thing.
Ebro Darden
Canva, the thing that makes anything a thing.
Laura Styles
You survived the Miami weekend, nailed the speech, and maxed out your credit card
Rosenberg
in the name of friendship.
Laura Styles
Now you've got one hangover, four pastel dresses, and zero reasons to wear them again. Sell them on Depop. Just snap a few photos and we'll take care of the rest and you at least get some of your dignity money back. Someone on Depop wants what you've got. Start selling now. Depop. Where taste recognizes taste. This episode is brought to you by Netflix. The four seasons is back for season two. Starring Tina Fey, Will Forte, Colman Domingo, Marco Calvani, Carrie, Kenny Silver, and Erika Henningsen. After a difficult year, your favorite group of friends continues their tradition of vacationing together. Now with a baby in tow. From the Jersey shore to upstate New York and Italy, their getaways are sure to take unexpected turns where comedy ensues. Watch the Four Seasons May 28, only on NetFL.
Ebro Darden
Just don't call it a podcast. The Ebro Laura Rosenberg show Show. Okay, boys and girls, welcome to the program that is Ebro Laura and Rosenberg show. If you don't know, but welcome.
Rosenberg
Starting to run it back, man. Rewind selector.
Ebro Darden
You know what I mean?
Laura Styles
Good morning. Good morning.
Ebro Darden
Hey, subscribe and like and share and do all the to get us popping in the algo.
Rosenberg
The algo hustle was big last week.
Ebro Darden
We did significant algo hustle last week. Laura, how'd you feel about it?
Laura Styles
It was everywhere. Everyone was like, I had. My friends were like, wow, did it get that bad? I'm like, just watch the entire thing. That's what it was.
Ebro Darden
How did it get that bad?
Laura Styles
But I did enjoy seeing people like 9th wonder quest love come to Rosenberg's defense, shall I say?
Rosenberg
I mean, yeah.
Ebro Darden
Yeah.
Laura Styles
I mean, sharing personal stories on how much you know you mean to them and contributions. I thought that was super dope. I saw a lot of people come out.
Rosenberg
Yeah.
Laura Styles
Come out at me. Commenting.
Rosenberg
No, they supported me by coming out of the closet because they said we all want to be valuable allies, so we need to learn how to start sucking D. It's the only way to do it. No, the Thing that I thought was interesting about that, and I guess this is what shows the bubble we live in is that so many people I knew hit me up and were upset. Like, this is bullish. I'm like, you know, I get called this all the time.
Ebro Darden
Yeah, no idea.
Rosenberg
They don't know that I'm called culture vulture by ever. Yo. I was on a Mount Rushmore of culture vultures.
Laura Styles
You were?
Rosenberg
Yes, very. It was a great.
Ebro Darden
But it's all. It's also not only indicative of being in a bubble and the way the, you know, the Internet works. People have their little things. But it's also people ignore things that just don't make sense.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
That's how maybe that would have been like what is.
Rosenberg
Whereas we showed it to them and we gotta give Bascom props. Bascom put together a, you know, rage baity enough clip to like, to like draw you to get em going. Cause people really were passionate.
Ebro Darden
You put the scheme in bad scheme on that one. You know what I'm saying?
Laura Styles
He's taking a vow. He's taking a vow.
Rosenberg
Attaway. Scheme.
Ebro Darden
He was scheme.
Rosenberg
So that was. It was nice to see people like want to jump in and. And throw some love. But I thought it was a good clip to put out. I saw someone on the street yesterday. He literally goes. He was like, yo, man, better fancies late night. Blah, blah. He was like, you're getting a little bit. What was the word he used? Clickbaity these days. A little clickbaity these days. But it's cool. It's cool. I get it. I was like. He was like this whole culture Vulture Jason Lee. I was like, oh, you're literally referring to this week. We literally just got clip baity. And then I thought about it and. And I'm like, we didn't have a major conversation about having Jason Lee on the show, but Ebro and I definitely had the same thought. And Laura was just like, I'll go with it. Fine. We definitely had the same thought, which is tell me if you think this is clickbait. Yeah, it's gonna be a good conversation. I did want a little get back of you've said nasty things about me. I get to respond to it to your face. Rare opportunity. But also, as much as I don't like Jason Lee, he's not a white supremacist. He's not trying to overthrow. He's just a guy who does lazy crap. In my opinion, as content, he's not a horrible person.
Ebro Darden
Now I had a thought and let me know if you guys agree with it? Do you? Look, because Jason Lee came up here and in his mind, right, we are no longer working at a big, you know, station, a big brand. Now we know the inner workings of that brand and we know how much while they have a big brand, they don't really have the wherewithal and the, you know, stick to itiveness. To actually use the brand for what it could.
Rosenberg
Could. Yeah.
Ebro Darden
And that was one of our frustrations, and I think that's well documented. But he can't. I think he came up here because he thought he was helping us.
Rosenberg
That. That's. Hold on. In your brain, that's what you actually think.
Ebro Darden
I think he thought that.
Rosenberg
No, no, in your brain.
Ebro Darden
I don't think. I think that. I think he thought that, but he thought.
Rosenberg
Are you suggest. Let me tell you, like.
Ebro Darden
Because there was a point in the
Rosenberg
thought, he was being benevolent. Yes. You think he did that from a standpoint of benevolence?
Ebro Darden
Well, because in the convo, remember, he goes, now you guys are like us. We need to work together.
Laura Styles
Yes, I did.
Ebro Darden
He said that out of his mouth
Laura Styles
while we were saying, yes, I did hear that. And I was just like.
Ebro Darden
It wasn't like, he didn't come up here to just be on some. Like, he even said during the convo, like, I got some stuff going on. We should talk after this. He said that.
Rosenberg
You're out of your mind. You would do something like that. You're out of your mind.
Ebro Darden
No, no, no. He said that.
Rosenberg
Yo, how about this? Hasan Piker didn't come up here to show love to us, let alone Jason Lee. Everyone comes up to places.
Ebro Darden
No, no, no. Are you hearing.
Rosenberg
It wasn't to help us.
Ebro Darden
No. In his mind.
Rosenberg
But are you.
Ebro Darden
But not in my mind.
Rosenberg
But I don't understand what I.
Ebro Darden
In my mind, we were having him up because I wanted that to happen for our fans. That was for us. We were doing that.
Laura Styles
And his team asked to come up.
Ebro Darden
And they asked to come up.
Rosenberg
Well, they did everything. They're on a. They're on a promo. A big promo.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rosenberg
But what I'm trying to. I guess what I'm confused by legitimately is are you saying that he actually was doing it from a place of benevolence? I just don't understand what you're saying.
Ebro Darden
Like, you think he was like, yo, I'm a go up here and see
Rosenberg
if I can help these guys get.
Ebro Darden
And I'm going to make this moment for them. He could go a lot of places he'd go a lot of bigger places, bro.
Rosenberg
No one. In my comments, half the people didn't know who he was. It was a very useful. In our world, but that's what I'm saying. It was a very useful promotional.
Ebro Darden
But you're just. All you're doing is parroting the same thing. We just proved to, you know, a bunch of other people that were like, I don't even know who this guy is.
Rosenberg
Right.
Ebro Darden
Right. In his world, in his bubble, in his algorithm. He even during that conversation was like, there's certain things I just do because I know it gets it going. Like, it's all algo hustle. And that's why we were exposing it a little bit. Our audience was like, yo, this guy's just a click baiter. We were like, yes, that's what he does. And he knows he's doing that. He said it and he said it, so.
Rosenberg
And he doesn't even care. He was doing us a solid.
Laura Styles
I don't think so. But I think that they looked at it like, hey, they're being talked about because, guys, we've gotten more. More exposure on this show than we ever got it hot. Right?
Rosenberg
Yeah.
Laura Styles
And then, so obviously to me, he felt we were important enough to. For him to want to come up here. They knew that we had a past. A past which was with you mostly. And then he wanted to take advantage of the moment, but I do think he. He thought it was beneficial for both. Both parties. And he. He said that. Listen, I don't think he was just like, yes, I'm gonna go help out my friends for a viral moment. I don't think that's it at all.
Rosenberg
I don't think there was any part of him that thought it could. Like, this is about it being good. Maybe now may. I'll accept this. Maybe him thinking his commitment to sort of this kind of thing and thinking the overall growth of it all is beneficial for rising tides floats all boats. Yeah, because that's as far as I would say.
Laura Styles
I mean, the other. Listen, as crazy as that clip was, the other clip that has been moving around a lot. I don't know if you guys noticed this and it's been conveniently cut down, but it's a clip of him talking about how the Democrats and Kamala Harris and the team, like, do not take independent black media seriously.
Ebro Darden
Yeah, I saw that.
Laura Styles
That. That. That part has been moving around a lot. And I just found that one interesting because, yeah, I. I think it's important. I think it's important for People to understand where people are getting news from. Like, it's not the CNN's, the fox. Well, Fox News is a brainwashed situation, but you know what I mean? It's like people are getting their news and information from somewhere else now. And I think. I think that was an important.
Ebro Darden
But even on that side, Laura, even on the, you know, that side of, you know, if you want to talk about Fox News side, similarly, they're getting. A lot of people are tuned into podcasts, things that are not your, quote, unquote, vetted. I mean, hell, man, we got people on Instagram that are like. I mean, the whole doctor, Dr. Bryant last week thing where she's, you know, I saw that.
Laura Styles
She a doctor or not.
Rosenberg
I saw that, like, moving. But, like, it was one of those things where I didn't take the step of actually going in. I just saw her popping up on stuff.
Ebro Darden
Yeah. And we're not. We don't care enough over here. But, you know, she's someone out here who's giving people advice, and she's someone out here not only giving people advice, but, like, giving people therapy. Like, and is not. Doesn't have her, you know, according to the Internet, is not certified by an accredited institution, doesn't have her thesis, doesn't have nothing. And she was running around and Shay Shay and Joe Button and on shows and hustling it, you know what I'm saying? Putting out books. Doctor. I'm a doctor.
Rosenberg
Oh, literally saying I'm a doctor.
Ebro Darden
No, her name is Dr. Cheyenne Bryant. Yeah.
Rosenberg
And she's not a doctor, you're saying.
Ebro Darden
Well, that's what people are questioning, whether or not she has, you know, John Cena or accreditation.
Rosenberg
Well, John Cena was never an actual doctor.
Ebro Darden
Neither was Dr. Dre.
Rosenberg
No, Dr. Of Thuganomics. But at the same time, he knew enough about thuganomics to, I think, portray himself in that way.
Ebro Darden
But nonetheless. Nonetheless, people are out here. People go ahead. She does have an honor.
Rosenberg
Honorary doctorate. So that still will let her be a doctor. But the question is if she has a legitimate.
Ebro Darden
Yeah. So we were talking about the legitimacy. Okay.
Rosenberg
Nothing honorary.
Ebro Darden
Thank you, Rasa.
Laura Styles
Thank you.
Rosenberg
Well, that is interesting, though, because she is running with the honorary. Like, Don, they call me doctor.
Ebro Darden
So she's not. But that's the problem. She's not saying I'm honorary. She is saying I went to an institution they are now closed down of two years ago, and they don't have my records. And everybody's like, that's not how that works.
Laura Styles
I. I saw a Clip of an interview where they ask you, are you basically a real doctor? She's like, I worked hard for it. Yes. But never gives a definite answer.
Ebro Darden
Well, and people who are doctors in that field or in other fields are like, yeah, but you would have your dissertation, you would have your documentation.
Rosenberg
But this is.
Laura Styles
Be proud of showing it.
Ebro Darden
But my point is the era we live in.
Rosenberg
Yeah. I mean, dude, she's going. You said she's sitting down with Shay Shay Shannon, God bless him. Lovely man. There's not a topic he talks about that he's informed on. I swear. Unless it was. Unless sports.
Ebro Darden
Listen, that's Club Shay Shay.
Rosenberg
It's Club Shay Shay. But I've watched him sit with people who like, we know well. And I'm like, oh, someone handed you note cards. You don't. So this is the era we live in of people sit with people like him.
Ebro Darden
Right. But people like them, him, whoever they like, they connect to someone. They tune into the thing. It's entertaining, it's produced well.
Rosenberg
And that's why you get people who don't need to be real doctors, because you just really like what they're selling you anyway.
Ebro Darden
That's right.
Rosenberg
So it doesn't really matter.
Ebro Darden
That's right. Speaking of selling you anyway, Iceman weekend. How was everybody's Iceman weekend? Iceman was out. Boy, listen, I had a great weekend.
Laura Styles
He gave us triplets.
Rosenberg
Oh, congrats.
Ebro Darden
He impregnated us with triplets. Now the. It is confirmed, I think, that the three album move was to get out of his UMG deal so he could.
Rosenberg
That's confirmed.
Ebro Darden
I think it's. I've seen it from multiple outlets that cover music and you know, I haven't heard from him.
Rosenberg
Sharp said it.
Ebro Darden
Sh. Shay said it, Dr. Cheyenne, Brian said it. So.
Rosenberg
No, it's got to be real. It's got to be real.
Ebro Darden
It's real. However, let's start with Laura Styles. How did you like. Okay, people say Iceman, but there's obviously Iceman, Habib, tea and maid of honor.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
So what did you feel?
Laura Styles
I didn't get to maid of honor. It was a lot, guys. It's a lot. It's a lot. I heard a little bit.
Ebro Darden
By the way, let me hit you with this for not. Congratulations.
Rosenberg
You play.
Laura Styles
Okay. I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. And that's what.
Ebro Darden
That's.
Laura Styles
My friends told me they were like best one. So the habibti. I. I enjoyed a couple tracks.
Rosenberg
What's habibti, by the way?
Ebro Darden
I Think it means my dear in
Laura Styles
Arabic or my love.
Rosenberg
So it's habibi.
Laura Styles
No, habibi is brother male. Okay.
Rosenberg
This is habibi or jace. It's habibti.
Laura Styles
I guess it's for, like, the female version.
Rosenberg
Okay. I guess, because I read it and I went, is that habibi? But it's the silent Tea or something.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I enjoyed a couple of tracks.
Rosenberg
My man's cultural appropriation, Gabe, goes any direction. You never know. What my Arab.
Ebro Darden
He says the Arab women love him.
Rosenberg
Oh, perfect.
Ebro Darden
Said it. He had the lyric. There was a lyric. I heard he said that.
Rosenberg
And Jamaican women love him.
Laura Styles
And the British women, by the way,
Rosenberg
none of that's a lie. So if that's the standard, he is goofy.
Ebro Darden
He's just, you know, using, you know, a language that people could relate to.
Rosenberg
If he is allowed to do the language or voice of the countries where women there want to sleep with him, he can do any language.
Ebro Darden
Right. That should be your next album.
Rosenberg
All of it.
Ebro Darden
That's it. That's the album now.
Laura Styles
Now, when it came to Ice, man, yeah, there was a couple joints I liked. Obviously, I was caught up to hear, like, what is he going to say about people? The Catt line really surprised me. I didn't think it was going to be that forward because he's normally not forward. Like, he doesn't call out people by name. And that's what annoys me. Like, just at this point, just say it. You know what I mean? But for Khed, I was like, wow. And I don't know, have you guys seen, like, people now kind of, like, intentionally trolling Khaled, like, trying to get him to say Free Palestine on camera?
Ebro Darden
We have a video.
Rosenberg
I saw one. Yeah.
Ebro Darden
Yo, Free Palestine. Say it one more time.
Rosenberg
Say it one more time. Why? That man looked dejected like that? Like, you didn't know that was gonna be what happened further. Well, he said, say it again, though. So maybe he did say it off camera.
Ebro Darden
Maybe Khaled has a response.
Rosenberg
This is not a response.
Laura Styles
Read that to me, man, because I don't know.
Ebro Darden
Hey, let's see, man. I'm not reading that.
Laura Styles
I have questions.
Rosenberg
No, man.
Ebro Darden
Yo, hey, listen. Khaled more Jamaican than Drake, though.
Rosenberg
Oh, historically, yes. No, no, he has. He has legitimate, legitimate ally claims for what he did in Miami for all those years.
Ebro Darden
That's a fact. Well, and his relationships in Jamaica.
Rosenberg
And the relationships in Jamaica. Yes, for sure.
Laura Styles
But that said, it's bad for him, though, because now it's like, everyone's going to be looking at him, troll him, to make him say something that we all hope that he would have said from the very beginning.
Ebro Darden
By the way, who's everyone when you speak? Who is this?
Laura Styles
The only reason I'm saying is because they know that he's Palestinian.
Ebro Darden
Well, no, but people on the Internet have been upset with Khaled for not speaking out on Palestine since before October 7th.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah.
Rosenberg
Way before.
Laura Styles
But obviously, you know, now it's more than before.
Ebro Darden
I'll tell you a whole thing. We were going to have. This is how long ago, Rosenberg, when we were going to have you and Khaled sit down together. Remember we asked.
Rosenberg
We talked about this. Yes.
Ebro Darden
This is how many years ago?
Rosenberg
No, no more. Yeah, no, in the long. I'd say 10, 12. I've talked about him and I have talked about being Palestinian and Jewish together on camera on at least one occasion, if not more. But it's a long time ago.
Ebro Darden
Yeah.
Rosenberg
Yeah, a long time ago.
Laura Styles
Wow. I didn't know that.
Rosenberg
Yeah, it's nothing like. Deep. It's nothing deep. But it. We've talked about it. Definitely just like, you know, joke about it. Showing love. Jewish, Palestinian love or whatever. This. I think the subject's really complicated. The telling someone what their obligations should be when they're of the group and you're not in the group. That's crazy. Tell me, like, you're a bad Palestinian. What you need to do when they actually.
Ebro Darden
Well. And we don't. And just be. And. And once again, Khaled's family hasn't been in that region. I don't know when they left. But you don't know who is there.
Rosenberg
We don't know who's there.
Ebro Darden
We don't know who's there. We don't know his connection to it. We don't know anything about. I don't personally know.
Rosenberg
I don't either.
Ebro Darden
Anything about his connection other than the fact that I think his parents are from there.
Rosenberg
Now, I will say this about Drake, and he doesn't get credit for it. Drake did jump on that artist for a ceasefire.
Ebro Darden
Yes, he did.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Rosenberg
And got. And really got no love for it.
Laura Styles
Yeah. And 40 has been very vocal about Palestinians. Yeah, very vocal. Like, one of the most so.
Ebro Darden
But simultaneously, I'm still sitting here, and I don't want this to, you know, deter us from having a good conversation about what's going on with this music Drake drop. I'm still sitting here waiting for him to distance himself from that White House post.
Laura Styles
He's not Going to do that.
Ebro Darden
Why not?
Rosenberg
Do you have that? You have the Iceman post. Iceman, Iceman, Iceman, Iceman, Iceman.
Ebro Darden
Why wouldn't he?
Laura Styles
Like Olivia Rodrigo did.
Rosenberg
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
Other artists have done it. It's not like. Yeah, but there was also the post where they had the album cover with the chain. Yeah, where's that?
Laura Styles
The MAGA chain.
Ebro Darden
Not just that.
Laura Styles
And then people on the Internet were like, he can't. He can't. Because then he won't be allowed in the country.
Rosenberg
But that's not how it works.
Ebro Darden
And also, that's just not what. And you guys are okay with that?
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Rosenberg
So he should just. He should just. And by the way, of all the people who could afford to have problems with these people, Drake, it wasn't going to be all right.
Ebro Darden
Right. So then you have. But. And you know, just to lay this out, I'm just waiting once again, look, I supported Kanye west on his last album. He hasn't denounced his alignment with MAGA either. So let's just be clear. This is not like I'm not going to support Drake's music or I'm not going to enjoy it. So I don't want this to deter from us enjoying the music, but I'm just waiting for it. Because what I see, right. Is an alignment with white supremacy. That's what I see. Because you have Aiden Ross, you have academics, academics promoting maga. You have Drake doing it as well. Or no. At least not distancing himself from it. Right.
Rosenberg
He does follow them. All we know is that he follows Trump and J.D. vance, but so do a lot of people.
Laura Styles
Right?
Ebro Darden
Yeah, yeah, but that's. Whatever. And then there. And then there's also. Who else was in there? There's another streamer in there.
Rosenberg
Oh, who's another one he's friends with?
Ebro Darden
Yeah, there was another person in there. But regardless. Who is it? Neon. Neon.
Rosenberg
But regardless of neon.
Ebro Darden
Regardless, I'm sitting here waiting for that. So while we're talking about Khaled and him trying to call Khaled out.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ebro Darden
Let's not just act like this is all clean for every. Everybody's on the right side of history here. Or speaking out like.
Rosenberg
Well, no, no, let's. Again, remember, we can't allow that one issue to be the. Oh, they're good now.
Ebro Darden
Yeah.
Rosenberg
Let's be honest. In 2026, it's actually gotten very easy to point at that situation and see which side's right. Which side?
Ebro Darden
Well, and you'd be surprised, Rosenberg. I saw it. There's The. The. The. You're not gonna distance yourself from that. He used your album cover and threw up a chain with MAGA on the White House account. You're not gonna say, hey, listen, my whole career I haven't really made. Politics is not really my thing.
Rosenberg
Someone should be doing that. Someone on your team should give a statement. There's nothing.
Ebro Darden
Nothing.
Rosenberg
They took your cover and made it a maga. That's just. That is crazy. And again, Drake is worth, you know, probably pushing on a billion dollars. Right? He's not American.
Ebro Darden
He doesn't.
Rosenberg
Not trying to be American. Yeah, he has residencies here. But like, he. Drake. It seems like if you listen to the album and kind of like, pay attention, seems like he's really been spending more time in Toronto than ever. Right? Like, does he really need the.
Ebro Darden
So. So I'm sitting here waiting for that. I also remember when we were talking to Hasan Piker, we didn't dig in on it, but Hassan Piker pointed out, and I didn't know this, that Steak academics Drake and that whole. And that whole faction, or Aiden Ross, that whole faction attacks Hassan Piker, according to him.
Rosenberg
Well, he didn't say Drake has attacked him, but. No, but that Steak Steak crowd. Because he's called out Steak. Yeah, that's what he said.
Ebro Darden
Yeah. So I want to dig in on that.
Rosenberg
But hold on. Yo, this is why people say you hate Drake, bro. Why are we talking about the music, though?
Ebro Darden
Well, because I wanted to. Because we were talking about Cal and him pointing out Khaled. And I want to say, like, yeah, okay, yeah, clean. You pointed out Khaled. You said what?
Rosenberg
You actually, by the way, it is also a little messy too, though, to Laura's point. Like, you've never called. You never call anyone out by name. And of all the opps, you had the one who caught it with the name and putting the pressure of, say, Free Palestine on them. It's the Palestinian friend you used to have who I don't even fully understand why you hate him. Because Khalid definitely never said anything nasty about Drake. No, not publicly.
Laura Styles
No, he didn't.
Rosenberg
Khaled's never said anything nasty about anyone ever publicly. So, like, of all the people to catch it, we have to be honest, like, it is sort of.
Ebro Darden
Well, he was kind of nasty to Tyler.
Rosenberg
He was kind of nasty to Tyler.
Ebro Darden
He wasn't.
Rosenberg
That was. But that was. That was his feelings being hurt about his album, not excusing it, but he was. And don't worry, don't feel bad for Tyler. Tyler came on our show and multiplied the times 100 back, so it was okay. Yeah, but most situations with Khaled, like, what I'm saying is Khaled was kind of an easy target to be the one whose name got called. It was like, damn, Khaled.
Laura Styles
Yeah, I think so.
Rosenberg
That being said, Laura, you said you listened to Iceman and you thought it was cool.
Laura Styles
I thought it was cool. I enjoyed some songs, but sometimes I would just. I would catch myself just fading away.
Rosenberg
Me too.
Laura Styles
It didn't grab me like the way I wanted it to, you know?
Rosenberg
Do you think that people and I, the people like you and I are waiting for a Drake album like Iceman to just be something that he is not? Like, we're waiting for that opening track. We're waiting for that opening track to come out and be like a Jay Z intro where the premiere joint hits and he's on some.
Ebro Darden
And that's why I want to hit all of you guys with It's Never Happened.
Rosenberg
And like we were waiting for it to happen. And then I realized I'm like, I'm listening to Iceman. And by the way, I do have positive thoughts on Drake's albums coming because I have evolved since I first heard it. But as far as Iceman goes, you're waiting for it to take some step into like a classic hip hop feel that he never goes to.
Ebro Darden
Well, there's a couple, but not classic.
Rosenberg
But the drums are hit like that. He's still gonna kind of whine and meander in the middle of it. It's a lot of complaining.
Ebro Darden
No, no. What you just said there, the whining, meander and the complaining. Yes, that happened.
Rosenberg
And that's.
Ebro Darden
We're not gonna act like Make Them Pay doesn't step into a hip hop field with the Denise Williams sample.
Rosenberg
No, I'm is hard. But then there was. I forget what bar he had on there that really.
Ebro Darden
I mean, sure, there's going to be that. But I just wanted to point out, and there's moments through Iceman, I think that the. Listen, the flub on Iceman for me is it's too long.
Rosenberg
I. I would say that's the flub on Maid of Honor too. It's like two or three too long. But that's everybody.
Ebro Darden
But everybody does that nowadays. And you know, a lot of people will be like, yeah, but it was getting him out of a deal and he had, you know, all the business side of it. And I want to put that over here, what you're talking about.
Rosenberg
By the way, people hit Me with that, too. That's not my business. You have to respect. He's feeding the algorithm and he's getting out of a deal, bro. I'm listening to the albums. That's not. Yeah, he has great business. He's done really well for himself.
Laura Styles
Fine. I want the art.
Ebro Darden
But I will say this. I think Drake examined or starts to try to examine some things about himself.
Rosenberg
Agree.
Ebro Darden
It's just clouded by all of the still being upset and bitter and angry about the battle and, you know, who pick sides and you know what I mean? So I think some of the. Him starting to, like, really look at himself in the mirror that people have been asking for. He doesn't. He kind of starts and then goes away from it.
Rosenberg
That's what a lot of people do. It's very real life. That's like real people. Like, I noticed there's some things that I'm like. He sort of implies on multiple occasions that, like, he is really sensitive about it and he is all these things. But then he can't lay off going after people like LeBron, who, again, of all the people, like, I don't know their personal situation.
Ebro Darden
He got his tattoo. He had a tattoo of him.
Rosenberg
But he also.
Laura Styles
That was crazy.
Rosenberg
Drake talks about having a God complex. And I don't really necessarily know the exact meaning of God complex in, like, a psychological way, but I do know what I've inferred by hearing it a lot. You believe that, like, you are the all being.
Ebro Darden
You're infallible.
Rosenberg
Bro. Bro, a lot of people stand next to you and like, you and are friends with you and think it's cool to be friends with you because you're Drake and all of these things.
Ebro Darden
And you're a nice guy.
Rosenberg
And yeah, you're a nice guy. You had a good experience with them. But they also like Kendrick. And when y' all get into the middle of a thing and it's hip hop and it's a thing, people are gonna, like, dance to a song or, like, a song. And you being like, how he literally says this. How dare you party next to me and then celebrate while my opps are. Bro, Our whole life isn't about you and your opps. Like, we love hip hop as much as we love you, Drake. We love the music that you've made.
Ebro Darden
But he's talking about people who have, you know, been to his house, you know, hung out, been on vacations, I'm assuming with their.
Rosenberg
He definitely talked about vacations. He talks about vacation.
Ebro Darden
Oh, he's always talked about let's not act like Drake talking about vacations is new. No, we're not gonna do. We are not gonna act like going on vacation with Drake is a new concept.
Rosenberg
No, people are apparently going.
Ebro Darden
We've been doing. No, I'm saying albums.
Rosenberg
We've gone to Greece.
Ebro Darden
We've gone everywhere. So many places, so many trips, so many skus.
Rosenberg
See, that's why I can't have anything.
Ebro Darden
No, but look, he gave us so many. Listen, what we're also not gonna do is act like Drake doesn't know his magic. He gave us his attempt at a full rap album.
Rosenberg
Oh, here.
Ebro Darden
He gave us a full R B vibe album. And he gave us a full kind of dance club, crossover, rhythmic pop album.
Rosenberg
So just like how we feel that Drake is never going to give us that absolute hip hop classic. I said hip hop classic.
Ebro Darden
Go with rap. Go with rap classic.
Rosenberg
Rap classic. There you go. If that makes you feel better. Just like many people feel. He's not going to give us that ultimate rap classic that A J has or a Nas has or a Kendrick has or some would say J. Cole has. And maybe we feel he's not capable of doing that. That maid of honor. And what's the other one? Habibty Habibti. Are any of the people that we just mentioned capable of doing those?
Ebro Darden
No, Absolutely none of them.
Laura Styles
No, no, no.
Rosenberg
None of the greats can make maid of honor. Maybe they wouldn't want to, but they can't do it. Yo, that Drake is capable the Jedi mind trick of making songs about wanting to basically have sex with every woman in the world while also making the music that is their best friend is some ill ish we've never seen before.
Ebro Darden
That's great. It's great.
Rosenberg
He has multiple songs with bestie on the title. I'd like to point that out. There are multiple. There's the classic bestie and then there's your new bestie.
Ebro Darden
Yo, he wrote a song. Hoe phase is fire. Yo, ho phase is fire.
Rosenberg
He understands the whole phase. No, because he's been the guy to be on the receiving end of it, I'm sure. Many times.
Ebro Darden
Listen, man, that album.
Rosenberg
No, that album is a.
Ebro Darden
You could put that.
Rosenberg
You could put that maid of honor on At a party at 10 o' clock and let it rock for 90 minutes.
Ebro Darden
Let it rock.
Rosenberg
And not a lot of people can do that.
Ebro Darden
So we could be critical about everything. Gordo, man. Yo, man, shout to Gordo on production, bro. Like, the production's real. Yeah, man, I didn't.
Rosenberg
You're not going to believe this. I didn't even hate Sexy Red doing the cha cha slide.
Ebro Darden
There you go.
Rosenberg
I didn't. You didn't hate it on paper. I'm like, this is the most unneeded thing in the history.
Ebro Darden
But is it, though? Is it unneeded?
Rosenberg
Yes, it is.
Ebro Darden
But damn it, it has a level of ridiculousness that I think people will have fun with.
Rosenberg
It worked in the context of when I realized where the album was going. I'm like, oh, this is really just. Girls could put this on and party for the whole. That's why you're gonna like.
Ebro Darden
It is a good party joint. ELR. ELR3, jump in on this Drake albums convo. Which one did you like? Did you like any of it? Listen, the. The biggest problem I have with this, these three albums is I feel like Drake went like nine for 40.
Rosenberg
What songs?
Ebro Darden
Like, there's nine amazing joints out of
Rosenberg
a batch of 40amazing.
Ebro Darden
Yeah, like nine songs that I'm like, yo, these. This is a heater.
Rosenberg
There's the headline. We did all this talk of new and all this nuanced Drake talk, and Ebro just ruins it by the clip. Now being Ebro says Drake goes 9 for 40.
Ebro Darden
9 for 40 from the field's not what you want, however, from the field.
Rosenberg
But as a baseball average, 240, 250. These days, that's a great ball player.
Ebro Darden
There you go.
Rosenberg
I think I would say less amazing than nine, but more really good than nine.
Ebro Darden
Okay.
Rosenberg
I would say overall, it's over 20 for four.
Ebro Darden
And by the way, I'm saying that's. That's like the biggest problem, right? The second biggest problem is I think the redundancy of the, you know, talking about the beef and, you know, it just was like it kept going and it kept going and it was. And which is why I think Iceman could be chopped down by four or five records.
Rosenberg
Yeah, that's fair. I think that's fair. I think Iceman being chopped down. Like I said maid of honor a little bit. I didn't quite make it to the end of habit. Shouts to Donnell Jones, those gonna get a nice little check. That was I'm feeling you and I'm.
Ebro Darden
I like Fort Worth on that, habibti. And I like. Is that on a beep? Am I saying it right? Making that record classic.
Rosenberg
You're taking risk by jumping into song titles. But yeah, he had. He had the one song when he hit the I'm. I'm feeling you and I'm wanting you from. But it's That's a really. There's some really good R B records on that.
Ebro Darden
Well, so now I love that you brought up Rosenberg, your expectations of Drake, right? Because I feel like there's a lot of people who had these unrealistic expectations and I don't know where they come from. Like, because when I heard all of this music this weekend, I was. This sounds like Drake to me. Like, this sounds like Drake. Like, I don't understand why people don't.
Rosenberg
I was put on.
Ebro Darden
Okay, that's fine.
Rosenberg
Just that initially you're like, what is this? What mean do you. You doing?
Ebro Darden
Right?
Rosenberg
And so I was kind of. I think I was being biased in my initial assessment because I'm like, I don't want three hours.
Ebro Darden
He's also doing what kind of what Beyonce said she was gonna do. Remember, Rena, you had Renaissance was its own vibe.
Rosenberg
Fix your lips.
Ebro Darden
Well, no, Renaissance was his own vibe. Cowboy Carter was on Vibe. We're supposed to get a third installment, which is a whole other vibe, right? That she said that like, that. We've known that for a while. He just put his all out one weekend. She stretched hers all out over most,
Laura Styles
I think also the energy behind Drake. Expecting Drake to do something or be someone or be that.
Rosenberg
That.
Laura Styles
That give. Giving you the perfect rap album, right? It also is because of the energy behind the beef. They're like, what is he gonna say next? Like, is he gonna come for Kendrick? Is he gonna demolish everything? Like, so people had high expectations of that. But I, you know, even the little subs that he did that were going towards Kendrick, I just thought, okay, I
Ebro Darden
think too, you know, and I think about the great rappers a lot, right? Like, we just watched Nas release how many albums that the hip hop culture has had affinity for or loved? 5 in the last like six years or something. Something like that. One of Jay's greatest albums, I think to a lot of jay fans is 444 like people. I've seen people put that 4, 4, 4 in top 5J album.
Laura Styles
I love that album, right?
Ebro Darden
However, they weren't celebrated in the same ways as their albums at their highest heights were. And drake is a 40 year old dad, right, who is trying to build his next chapter. So I think I didn't have. I knew everybody expected this release to feel like views or to feel like one of those, you know, want to take care or one of those, like, you know, big out, you know, big album releases, right? If you're reading this and although great material was released, I knew that would be a challenge in this climate. And it was loud this weekend was still very loud.
Rosenberg
Because it was like.
Ebro Darden
It was very loud. It's very loud because it was Drake. But like, people got to get accustomed to the fact that Drake is settling into this is after the highest height, you know, I mean, I don't.
Rosenberg
That's the part. People aren't settling into that though. And he's not settling into that.
Ebro Darden
No, he will never. He will never.
Rosenberg
Just like, that's the shortcoming also. The shortcoming is not accepting when you're in the new place.
Ebro Darden
Yeah.
Rosenberg
And how do I make new albums that aren't gonna be exactly that, like. But that takes people a long time.
Ebro Darden
Very. Tom Brady's still struggling with it. Like, remember there was like rumors last year that Tom Brady was getting offers to come back and play quarterback. And we were like, yeah, but the
Rosenberg
difference is a football player can't do it. An artist in theory can.
Ebro Darden
Can they?
Rosenberg
But you're only gonna run into a classic like that if you're comfortable in the place you're in and you're making with.
Laura Styles
Right.
Rosenberg
That's why four, four, four hit.
Ebro Darden
Right?
Rosenberg
Because guys, we are not going to act like people are looking back super fondly. And it had joints that I liked on Magna Carta, Holy Grail, Blueprint 3. Some of those albums, yes, they have good moments. As I always say. Pluck a couple songs.
Ebro Darden
Blueprint 3 is better than Blueprint 2.
Rosenberg
In retrospect, I don't know. I spent a lot of time on Blueprint 2 recently. I don't know. Again, too many songs.
Ebro Darden
Blueprint. What about Blueprint 2.0?
Rosenberg
That's different. No, that's different. But no, but again, those albums ended up being, oh, I got a couple of greatest hits joints to pluck for the live show. But that's kind of what happens. You move on. Then you come into a 4, 4, 4, and you hit this complete body of work.
Ebro Darden
Well, cuz Jay had something new to
Rosenberg
talk about and he was cut and he was gonna. I'm gonna live here. I'm gonna owned it. I'm gonna live on.
Ebro Darden
And I think the. Some of the blowback. Let me see. There was a clip that I thought a guy was pretty thoughtful. Go to clip two there, Rahsaan for me. So I just listened to the Drake album, but what I noticed, he's turned into the old N at the club. Two most revealing words on Drake's new album, Dig Deeper. He literally says he know he got some healing to do. He know he got Some things to work on. But the idea of digging into his own scares the out of him. Drake is now a representative of black men's refusal and inability to see the need to grow. Drake is about to be 40 years old and the repetitive themes that he's talked about his whole career, they continue to regurgitate in his music. You got the theme of I versus Day. When you have a certain perspective to hyper focus on yourself. There will be an absence of the inclusion of other, especially when it comes to the black and brown community and how much work we need 40 year old black man and not have any context. The conjecture on the state of black America, what's going on with our people, how the men that praise and follow you can level up in some way, shape or form.
Rosenberg
It is. It's a very good clip.
Ebro Darden
I don't know who that was. And if you y' all know in the chat who that was, that was sent to me, so I couldn't find the original clip but. So I want to shout him out because I thought that was thoughtful.
Rosenberg
Yeah, yeah. And it is a theme throughout the album. You can hear that he does want to go sort of further, but is not able to quite.
Ebro Darden
He's not ready, is not able, doesn't want to do it. You know, I saw somebody talking about he's not going to give them that on this album. You know, he's got to renegotiate his deal.
Rosenberg
Okay, calm down everyone. Yo, but I will tell you one thing that jumps out to me. I have never. There may not be a better guest on earth for validate me than Drake.
Laura Styles
Oh, God,
Rosenberg
no, no, I'm not holding my breath. But I'm just saying is though. I mean, I love the guy, but the amount of sex addict talk that comes through this album, I mean, he. Yo, your man can't stop.
Ebro Darden
He.
Rosenberg
He. Every woman to him is like he sees every one. I'm just believing what the lyrics are, by the way, okay? And I am not.
Ebro Darden
And you're taking that face value. Cause it could all be an act.
Rosenberg
It could all be an act. And I'm not. And by the way, I'm not. I'm not hating on this man Drake. I'm not Shawny, all right? Shawnie used to hate on this man's epic record. Your man is like Derek Jeter on steroids. His run is unlike anything we've ever seen. Okay? No one's gonna hate on that. But he does just seem like if you believe again, if you just listen to the lyrics. Yo, I just performed at 20,000 fans. Now you want me to spend 20,000 bands. Every, every girl who he meets, it seems like is this challenge he needs to accomplish. And it's like, how many can you possibly need to accomplish? There's never going to be enough. Your man probably has wilt like numbers. We've never seen a run like this, right? Like he's not just talented, he's not just seemingly a ladies man. He's a very good looking guy. He's charming, all the things. And if you listen to the music again, and he does seem to put some reality in his music, he just sounds like a guy who's absolutely obsessed with sleeping with every woman humanly possible. And there's. I just don't think he's ever going to get to a point when he goes, well, that last one was it. I really feel full. I, I now believe women like me for who I am.
Ebro Darden
I think, I think we should get into that more on a Patreon, right? Because I think that, you know, most men sit around and are watching you right now and are going in the back of their minds, even if that's not who they are anymore, and going, what's wrong with that?
Rosenberg
No, because we're taught, we're taught it's normal. We're taught that we are as men, we are taught that if you are single, the normal thing to be doing is trying to conquer every single woman humanly possible.
Ebro Darden
And, and like you said, we're trained at program socially it's acceptable. Women reinforce that concept often with the boys will be boys and all men are dogs and all men cheat. And kind of this whole thing where it's almost like, yeah, that's just what it is. Right. You know what I mean? So, but yeah, you know, it is a, it is a space where, you know, you, if you stay in that space and you don't actually peel back on what you're actually looking for and why.
Rosenberg
Well, and you have that access to, right? I mean, Drake on any given night in any given city, like, I thought about this yesterday, I was like, you know, it'd be a really fun interview game with Drake that you could never play with him. And he would never say. But if you were to be like, hey, tell me, I'm gonna name a random city, Tell me about the hot woman that you have in that city. You could literally do it about every city on planet Earth and it would keep going. He'd be like, oh, well, Wes, you know, West Palm is different than Fort Lauderdale. I mean, I'VE got, you know, so it's just. With that kind of access, it's even harder to. Now turn it off. That's hard. Hey, we got a big, huge.
Laura Styles
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Rosenberg
Super Chat.
Ebro Darden
Super Chat time.
Rosenberg
Kendo. Just. Just one. But Kendo came through with 99.99 Kendo 101 episodes and counting. Keep it growing Family. Coffee and bagels are on me.
Ebro Darden
That's very nice.
Laura Styles
Oh, that's.
Ebro Darden
People really enjoyed the 100th episode. I don't know if they enjoyed the balloons.
Rosenberg
Say sorry. Say sorry. I'm Griffin.
Laura Styles
Laura Hebrew.
Rosenberg
That was the only thing we did.
Laura Styles
I know. That's how people were like, oh, my God.
Ebro Darden
No, it was in the caption.
Rosenberg
Yo.
Ebro Darden
It was in the caption. It was.
Rosenberg
Griff, Laura, great job. Balloon committee.
Laura Styles
It was really grif.
Rosenberg
Griff, you did a great job.
Ebro Darden
Yo. And then, yo, this is. How much are y' all thinking? We're on a budget. They were trying to save the balloons.
Laura Styles
We were. Now we were just putting them in the bag.
Rosenberg
No, you saved 100. But don't buy another three zeros. Just get a kid.
Ebro Darden
For a hundred thousand subscribers, all you
Rosenberg
need is a K. That's one more bit. That's all you need, guys. Now, speaking of a K, we got to get into Cars for Kids.
Ebro Darden
Oh, goodness.
Laura Styles
Random crazy thing, Ebert, you had mentioned it to me.
Ebro Darden
No, I sent it. So this came across Ebro's Algo a long time ago, and I sent it like, yo. But I didn't know if they were just like. It was all, you know. I didn't have a way to figure it out. And I wasn't going to the Cars4Kids website.
Rosenberg
I did. I did all the research. When you said it the first time we talked about it. Yeah, I went down the full rabbit hole myself.
Ebro Darden
Really?
Rosenberg
Yes.
Ebro Darden
I didn't know this. We never.
Rosenberg
Oh, bro. I knew. How. I'm like, here's my logic. I don't remember if it was you who sent it to me initially, but it was six. Six months to a year ago was when I first Started hearing Cars for Kids might really be some Israel propaganda outlet. And here's why. The reason I went down the rabbit hole was the same reason my dad was like legitimately upset on Saturday when I spoke to him. Because of all the things that have made would make the average person think that Jews are just out of their mind and terrible as a collective because of the terrible behavior of Israel. This struck me and apparently my dad the same way of this is really bad because everybody knows and hates this commercial. Everybody.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Rosenberg
And maybe some people like it, but you have a relationship with.
Ebro Darden
And it's a great tune. And even if you're annoyed by the 1 877, whatever it is, you're going, it's for the kids.
Laura Styles
Right.
Rosenberg
That part.
Laura Styles
Right.
Ebro Darden
It's for the kids. I donate a car and help some kids.
Rosenberg
Here's how I viewed it. I viewed it as you don't want to get rid of your car. It's annoying to get rid of the car. We'll come take the car. Which I think this part is what it is. You'll get a write off. Great.
Ebro Darden
Tax write off.
Rosenberg
But they're saying Cars for Kids.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Rosenberg
So I'm assuming then either those cars will go to needy families who need a car or if the car is unsalvageable, they will sell the car and the money will somehow go to benefit kids, right? Correct.
Laura Styles
Kids in need. Yeah. Children in need. Yeah.
Rosenberg
That's what the commercial sounds like.
Ebro Darden
And they take houses too.
Rosenberg
Now when I remember I heard that was like Tate's hat. And real estate.
Laura Styles
Oh, boats and real estate.
Rosenberg
So I heard that after I'd already heard that it was really like an Israel operation. So then when I heard the now taking real estate, I was like, oh, oh my God.
Ebro Darden
Well, so in the state of California,
Laura Styles
I got the guy.
Ebro Darden
Okay, go ahead.
Laura Styles
Bruce Puterbaugh, he sued Cars for Kids in this landmark lawsuit basically because the charity, he got them banned from the California airwaves because of this.
Rosenberg
Yeah.
Laura Styles
So yeah. Which is. Which is really big. But the charity allegedly, you know, was a false advertising. But they're saying that it. The money went to a New York and New Jersey based Orthodox Jewish outreach organization where the majority of the donations went to religious camps, trips to Israel and real estate purchases.
Rosenberg
Yeah, essentially it's a variety of stuff from what I read. And this is when I got confused. Well, and.
Ebro Darden
But also. Sorry to cut you off. Also I know noticed in the lawsuit the man said in the commercial is a variety of children. Yes, the TV commercial, the assumption Is that it's for all kids, not specifically one group.
Laura Styles
Right.
Rosenberg
Because the kids are multi ethnic.
Ebro Darden
Because they could argue it is for kids. Jewish kids, Orthodox Jewish kids who want
Rosenberg
to go to Israel.
Ebro Darden
Who want to go to Israel.
Rosenberg
They could argue poor Jewish kids.
Ebro Darden
Not poor, not needy. They don't say any of that. Right. They could argue it's absolutely for kids and families with kids.
Laura Styles
Yeah. The judge was like, nah, fam, you didn't. You didn't say that in the jingle. You didn't say that in the visuals. Like, no, like, not having it.
Ebro Darden
And then the. The vetting process, I think will. I mean, if this goes the way I think it will go, other attorney generals from other states will pick it up.
Rosenberg
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
And then they'll begin to go, and by the way, this is where you needed a functional federal government. Okay. Because at a certain point, the federal government would have to investigate. Why is this a nonprofit organization?
Rosenberg
That's that part. That part. Although, listen, where we live right now, what will happen is we'll see whoever runs Cars for Kids in the White House shaking hands with the president, and he'll be like, this is a witch hunt. We're gonna make sure that you guys get more cars than ever. But I'm making that up. But that's what I know. Our government's like, this. This is bad, though. This. This to me was just the kind of thing that makes, like, if you have crazy conspiracy theories about Jewish people, this is just so reinforcing of that. Of, like, wait, the Cars for Kids.
Ebro Darden
Yeah.
Rosenberg
Is a secret. And like, so when I went to the website initially, I tried to, like, figure out. And it's very confusing. Like, it is clearly related to Jewish stuff.
Ebro Darden
And.
Rosenberg
And like, kids and. But, like, it. They make it very vague. But all I know is I'm looking at them like, this is not what it sounds like. The commercial.
Laura Styles
Right.
Rosenberg
If you go look, you're like, it doesn't listen. It doesn't look like they're creating settler movements or doing anything like, terrible to harm people.
Ebro Darden
But we have to assume that they might be.
Rosenberg
Well, no, I just assume that you're lying still. About what the point of it is. It's pr. It's PR for a country, essentially.
Ebro Darden
Yeah. But also, why would you lie?
Rosenberg
Because you could. Well, yeah. Why would you lie? Because you want to get as much money as possible. If you said it was, hey, eight, seven, seven cars for Israel, people are not doing that. Kids is the problem. The problem is the word kids.
Laura Styles
Yeah. And that was. That guy's Whole thing, it's like. I thought it was for all children. He's like. And it's not even children. He's like, it was teenagers going and going on trips. On trips.
Rosenberg
So that's what I kept looking for. I'm like, wait, are these teenagers in need? And then in my brain, I'm going,
Laura Styles
I need to go to Israel in
Rosenberg
need of summer plans.
Laura Styles
I know.
Rosenberg
No, everyone knows that when your kids
Ebro Darden
are in need of a birthright trip.
Rosenberg
When your kid's in need of summer plans. Listen, it's a big frustration for the whole family, so it's terrible.
Laura Styles
Yeah, man.
Ebro Darden
Well, listen, we all heard the commercial and didn't do the work that Rosenberg did. Congratulations.
Rosenberg
Well, I did it. After 30 years of hearing it. I'm no hero. It was last summer, I was sitting on the toilet and I go, what is this? Cars for kids? Another website? What is this?
Ebro Darden
Israel.
Rosenberg
I know. And then in my brain, I do naturally go, like, I hope. I don't want anyone to know about this. This is terrible. I hope. I hope this isn't true. It's not true. It's not true. Close the phone. It's not true. No. It can't be this bad. And then, like. And then it comes out. I'm like, it really is that bad.
Ebro Darden
Yeah.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Rosenberg
So, I mean, that's what they're saying. That's what. That's what California said. Yeah, California said.
Ebro Darden
Well, and. And. And speaking of that bad, you guys know that, like, there are several opportunities around the country for Democrats to hold people accountable who broke the law during the election. Are you guys hearing about these headlines? So the governor of Colorado is about to pardon the woman who was convicted of voter fraud in the state.
Laura Styles
Oh, okay.
Ebro Darden
She was cheating on behalf of maga, is not remorseful at all. Was sentenced to seven years, and the governor of Colorado is about to let her slide.
Laura Styles
I want grounds. Why?
Ebro Darden
I don't know the grounds. I don't know the why, but, you know, yeah, it's about to happen. But it's also like, you know, the moderate. This, like, moderate Democrat thing is really in shambles.
Rosenberg
Yeah. You mean in terms of it just not being.
Ebro Darden
In terms of perception? In terms of, like, you know, when you look at polling and Democrat, they say Democratic, like favorability. Favorability numbers are as low as Trump's on a national level.
Rosenberg
And yet Mandani is so incredibly popular.
Ebro Darden
Right.
Rosenberg
AOC is very popular.
Ebro Darden
That's right.
Rosenberg
Talarico seems to be very popular.
Ebro Darden
We'll see.
Rosenberg
He needs to win the general. But he seems very popular.
Ebro Darden
Say again?
Rosenberg
Bernie.
Ebro Darden
Bernie's popular.
Rosenberg
He's always very popular.
Laura Styles
Always.
Rosenberg
So maybe this is finally it.
Ebro Darden
Speaking of aoc, she had some spicy words this weekend.
Rosenberg
She was in Alabama, and I saw people posting. She just gave the speech of her lifetime. So let me see. Let's run a little closer.
Laura Styles
Is that why she was behind the bulletproof yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah thing? And I am here today because I want to make sure that we all understand that Montgomery is not alone, that you all are not alone. And for all of those watching today, when they ask, what do we do
Ebro Darden
in this moment, I feel helpless. What action can I take?
Laura Styles
It is time for the north to pull up to the South.
Rosenberg
It is time for New York to
Laura Styles
pull up to Alabama.
Ebro Darden
It is time for all of us
Laura Styles
to come to Georgia, to Louisiana, to
Rosenberg
Tennessee, to Mississippi, and let them know
Ebro Darden
exactly what they have uncorked with this injustice.
Laura Styles
They think they can draw us out of power. They do not know the sleeping giant
Ebro Darden
that they just awakened
Laura Styles
because it is not a coincidence. And our whole country must understand that. It was not until voting rights were ratified in this country that we got the Great Society. Because when black, black Americans have the right to vote, and that vote is protected, our schools get funded. When voting rights are protected, health care gets expanded.
Ebro Darden
When voting rights are protected, our country
Rosenberg
moves forward in Montgomery.
Ebro Darden
That's what they're actually afraid of. They're afraid of us coming together. They're afraid of us protecting one another. Now, this past weekend, shout out to Roland Martin and his whole team over there. Lou, what was the. They had. There was a. The down in Selma. They walked the bridge at the Pettis Bridge down there. AOC was down in Montgomery, Alabama. That was a whole voting rights protection rally. They have. AOC also spoke at Ebenezer Church in Atlanta, Georgia.
Rosenberg
Oh, wow. She was really doing the round.
Ebro Darden
She was moving around. Now, what did. We carried something on our channel this weekend, Lou, that you were active in making sure that it was. It got out. What was that all about? Yeah,
Rosenberg
good stuff, man.
Ebro Darden
Thank you so much. Geez, I can't talk. What you were saying was some. So we carried the church and the rally. Got it. So hopefully you guys got to see that on the channel. But we worked together with a bunch of other channels on YouTube to make sure because I don't know how many people actually saw that. Did the news carry that this weekend? I didn't see it.
Laura Styles
I only saw it online.
Ebro Darden
Yeah, because it wasn't. That wasn't heavily in my algorithm at All.
Laura Styles
No, I would not say heavily. I think somebody sent me a clip. That's the only reason I saw it. Which is weird, because normally would pop up on my algorithm.
Ebro Darden
But it's not weird. It's the way it's supposed to be happening. Because your algorithm is controlled by tech billionaires who don't want you to see this voting rights stuff. Your TikTok is controlled by the Ellison family, some Christian nationalist Zionists or, you know, whatever that stuff is. So you're not going to see it heavily there either. And then what news outlet is covering this?
Rosenberg
Right, yeah, that part.
Ebro Darden
So I only want to point that out is because now all we have is each other. Right Back to the Jason Lee interview. No, I'm kidding.
Rosenberg
And that's why we're coming together.
Ebro Darden
You know what I mean? But. But it. But it was a thing. Like, it was. Who was in there? I have a group chat that I have with me, Sway, Gail King, Roland Martin, and a number of other people, black people who work in media that like, when things are happening, we're like, yo, did you see this? Hey, this is happening. And Roland sent that to all of us. Like, can you guys carry this? I don't know how many of them in the group chat have their own platforms and channels, but we happen to have one, so we were able to participate.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah.
Rosenberg
No, AOC was on her. Dean, right there, man, she sounded awesome. Excited. The fact that someone needs to give her a better microphone. I don't know what was like a shore 57, but. But, like, she really. I. I more and more start to think as much as I used to think. It was early that, like. And I don't even know. She's not 35 yet, is she? She is. It might be now for aoc, Guys,
Laura Styles
I'm sorry, it's a little early.
Rosenberg
What do we. But we might have a country. If we wait too long. If we wait too long, there may not be an election.
Ebro Darden
Well, you have two things. She's a Latina.
Rosenberg
I don't like that you have to say it that way. Why do you.
Ebro Darden
Because that's how they would say she Latina.
Rosenberg
That doesn't mean you have to.
Ebro Darden
She Hispanic.
Rosenberg
Okay.
Ebro Darden
She's a woman. She's a she.
Laura Styles
Yes.
Rosenberg
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
We just struck out three times with She's. Yeah, so she's got a little bit of headwind as far as sexism is concerned in this culture of American politics.
Laura Styles
And she's a nasty woman.
Rosenberg
Oh, that's right.
Laura Styles
You know what I mean?
Ebro Darden
She used to Be apart.
Rosenberg
Wait, wait. We struck out three times.
Ebro Darden
Hillary. Oh, no, twice. Hillary and Kamalia.
Laura Styles
Twice.
Rosenberg
I know. The only person we were able to get elected was the over 75 year old white guy. That's all we could do.
Ebro Darden
But that speaks to the culture. He's a man. He's a man.
Laura Styles
He's a man.
Rosenberg
And you know, you know, AOC is a very beautiful woman. You know, the incels get weird about attractive ladies that.
Laura Styles
I always think that's a beautiful woman in power. That's, that's in so meltdown.
Rosenberg
I think that's informed a lot of the hate towards AOC too. I know, I'm big on that. But I really do think people, they get so weird.
Laura Styles
Yes.
Rosenberg
They're like, I don't like these feelings that I have for how attractive she.
Ebro Darden
Well, no, but on the other side you have. There's a. You know, studies have been done on women who don't want to see you on television anymore because they're worried about their man being attracted to you. So women are gonna hate on you because you're attracting.
Laura Styles
That's the thing too.
Ebro Darden
I don't want this woman on my tv.
Rosenberg
Right.
Ebro Darden
Trying to take my man. Jolene.
Rosenberg
I don't, I don't understand. I don't fold, Joe.
Ebro Darden
No, that Jolene song was about, like, don't take my man. You're beautiful.
Rosenberg
So. So. But I do think like AOC is the ultimate candidate who has true experience, is a great charismatic speaker, is really, really progressive. But we have seen, and I know it's disappointed some people at other times we've seen when she knows she needs to play ball to get things done, but her instincts are incredibly progressive. You know what I mean? Like, that's where she, that's where she is as a person, but not. So she's a modern day Bernie. And that's really.
Laura Styles
And that's why they're hand in hand the majority of the time.
Rosenberg
Right.
Laura Styles
She is. Right. Whenever he is, whatever state he's in, she's right there.
Rosenberg
No, we got it. Next time we talk to her, we got to ask her about that. That they've been. They have to be like straight up BFFs.
Ebro Darden
He's mentoring her. Yeah. I thought she worked for him.
Rosenberg
No, I know, but now, now it's been years.
Ebro Darden
Yeah, but you know, mom, Donnie also is in that same. That's the same squad. That's the, the crew.
Laura Styles
Yeah, but I just see her whenever Bernie is at any rally. I see her also speaking and also supporting.
Rosenberg
Yeah, it's a cool thing to see.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Rosenberg
But I really. I don't know who else. You're right. Maybe she would lose for all the
Ebro Darden
reasons you just mentioned, but that doesn't mean I don't think she should run. And, like, who would get more excited. Right. Because I do believe we're going to have to see individuals run for the sake of, of helping create a conversation and help push an agenda. And they may get to a point and lose, but a real successful presidential candidate will pay attention if they're really in there to try to do the job. Right. And a great example is, you know, some people disagree with me, but I think Mamdani is trying to do the best for a majority of New Yorkers.
Laura Styles
He has to.
Ebro Darden
Not just the rich, not just one religious segment, not just. But a majority of the population. Right. Anyone that's doing these jobs, that's what the job used to be. It would be like, hey, I have my things that I think are a good idea. But I'm also hearing from a large swath of the voting population that says this is important to them. I'm going to incorporate that into my platform. Right. She needs to do that for that, to be a part of it. Right. Because it's working people, like everything that you see them talking about is working class families, Americans, and, and what the American ideals are supposed to be, protecting voter rights is supposed to be. I mean, it's in, by the way, it's in the original document.
Rosenberg
No, it's that. That's a basic, fundamental one right there.
Ebro Darden
Right. And so doing the work to protect that as people try to do work to keep it unprotected is why you have to vote on a local level. It's why you gotta actively vote for your state representatives. And I think that's why she's down in Alabama, to really galvanize and, and pull money. Right. Because she can pull money. Her profile now can pull money to pull money down into those areas, get people donating, get people rallying, get, you know, activists showing up and getting people out to vote. Because there's also conversations happening around. There are. And I think we saw this with Trump too. What they remember when they were talking about the flyover states, remember that whole conversation about flyover states. And there's a whole piece of America that just feels like they've been forgotten. The black community in many places, in many pockets around the country feels the same. Like, what's the point? Yeah, I've gone out and voted. My grandmother was out voting. We dealing with all of this, they still got Confederate flags flying at the state capitol. You know what I'm saying? Like, what do we even talk about? And. And I think that apathy sets in. But that's what they want. They want you to feel so disenfranchised that you're not even gonna show up to participate anymore.
Rosenberg
You want it is what it is.
Ebro Darden
I just want a piece. I. Yeah, right. And so they're gonna beat you into submission. And I think this is an opportunity for us to, you know, not only come together, activate, and also show people that we can affect voting in other parts of the country in a positive way. Are you ready for the rundown?
Laura Styles
Sure, let's do it.
Ebro Darden
Laura got the rundown.
Rosenberg
Turn that up. Screens on GLOW when she pulled up
Ebro Darden
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Ebro Darden
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Laura Styles
Yeah. Discomfort, like all the time.
Ebro Darden
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Rosenberg
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Ebro Darden
Matter of fact, we're gonna be wrapping this show up because I hit that Just Thrive this morning and I got an appointment.
Rosenberg
Damn, bro, we might be.
Laura Styles
I could not.
Rosenberg
Might be a half hour.
Laura Styles
All right. El army, trust us, we love to just drive gummies. Go, go get One of you.
Ebro Darden
I mean, I love them, too. Keeps it moving, baby. Laura, what you got in the rundown?
Laura Styles
Anyway, okay, so I was going to go through a bunch of, like, you know, the. The disses that stuck out that everybody was talking about, you know, throughout the. Throughout all three albums, right? So I know on Janice. Did you see when Janice Shut the
Ebro Darden
F Up is my joint? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Laura Styles
It says, this is towards Kendrick. The line that says, white kids listen to you because they feel some type of guilt. That's how your soul gets fulfilled. Handing out turkeys on camera inside your hood. Then you go back to the hills. I thought that was interesting because I'm like, didn't you do that with God's plan?
Rosenberg
Damn. Why you, Laura? Why you do that? Why is the problem?
Laura Styles
And I defended him in that video, remember? I was like, this is great. He's changing lives.
Ebro Darden
Wait, no, wait. But wait, but, Laura, you're bringing up something sensitive because if you recall, Rosenberg went.
Laura Styles
I know.
Ebro Darden
He. He went.
Laura Styles
I know.
Ebro Darden
Nuclear.
Laura Styles
I know.
Ebro Darden
I went nuclear. It was nuclear. I mean, that's how people received. You going in on Guy. You hated that.
Laura Styles
I mean, that's. You got a call.
Rosenberg
I did. But that was more than turkeys, by the way. Yeah. I will say that he gave away
Laura Styles
a lot of money.
Rosenberg
But also, Kendrick gives way, way more than turkey. Like, it's just a. The part that stands out to me is he says, white kids. What is the line?
Laura Styles
White kids listen to you because they feel some type of guilt, and that's how your soul gets fulfilled.
Rosenberg
My problem is I. Drake has too many white kids who feel no guilt. Yeah, he has. The white kids don't even feel guilt when they say the N word. Yes, that's my problem.
Ebro Darden
See? And now somebody's gonna take this clip. We have such a positive show talking about, and you see what happens? That happens to me. It happens to me. What you just did happens to me regarding.
Rosenberg
Because I'm triggered by this line.
Ebro Darden
You're triggered by the fact that you have a guy who is irresponsible with his platform. Right? He has a platform. He's irresponsible with it. Right. He has participated in a culture that we know represents something important. Right. And what it represents, he doesn't take care of. And so he says a line like that and you immediately go, you know, the problem I really have because it
Rosenberg
tapped into, like, I'm tired of people acting as if it's a bad thing that there would be white kids out there who in Kendrick hear, oh, this is a black man telling me about things that as a white person in America I should hear. That's important. This is like education.
Ebro Darden
But that's how you were raised on hip hop.
Rosenberg
That's why I got into hip hop. And my biggest issue was when I remember me and Mac Miller talked about this years ago, because I judged Mac when I first saw him, because I went to a concert of his and it was him performing in front of, like, 2,000 white kids. And I was like, oh, my God, I see the end of hip hop. It's white suburban kids performing for 2,000 white kids. This is where it all ends. Now, what I didn't know about Mac was that he would become this ultra responsible hip hop artist with diverse artists around who promoted great ideals. But if you don't do that and you don't care for it, yeah, that's. That's a problem. And it's a little throwaway line. I get it. But, like, it's indicative of a large problem. And obviously there are plenty of. Of course they're mad kids who love Kendrick and love Drake, and there are white kids who love Drake and are not okay with being racist. But we see that some of the racist ones gravitate towards Tim.
Ebro Darden
Here's the other part. During the battle, Drake said to Kendrick, you're trying to rap like you free in the slave. Yeah, people have. Black people had a problem with that. People had a problem with that. He didn't listen again, he's still not listening because he's still playing around with the same idea of Kendrick trying to appeal to people who need to learn something or free their minds from something. And that's the issue. That's not the issue.
Rosenberg
Right?
Ebro Darden
That is not the issue.
Rosenberg
He has other lines, Laurie. I'm sure you'll give us some. He has other lines that I think hit that are like, that's an appropriate response to Kendrick, but I don't think that one is okay.
Laura Styles
So there's a few more. Let me see. I don't have all of them, as a matter of fact.
Rosenberg
Play the clip.
Laura Styles
We have a clip. Clip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do the clip.
Ebro Darden
Get my first one, like, my last one. It's a classic. You don't have one. How do they say they got classics? If it's that you never revisited, and if that's revisited, then why am I boss of the business? What is it? The braids? What is it? The braids.
Rosenberg
Even when I cut them, I could never fade.
Ebro Darden
I mean, it's drizzy. Drake like beat your ass and hide the Bible. If God watch you talking about hiding
Rosenberg
the Bible, maybe y' all should Reader
Ebro Darden
page iced out crosses on their necks thinking Jesus saves. Well, even if he does, either way, the blasphemy you talk let me know that your amazing grace gonna be delayed. You should be ashamed the fact you had to bring those talks to get some decent plays. Goodness grace. That's.
Rosenberg
That's a response disrespect. I think that Oakland show go free.
Ebro Darden
Oh, last night.
Rosenberg
Got an Oakland show tonight, baby.
Ebro Darden
My young boys from the yacht going crazy. I'm glad the rose came home. Y' all did deserve him.
Rosenberg
Neither from a lot.
Ebro Darden
You must have been dealing in spur the moment. Why do we think you could get us a ring? They bragging about how you went home. They own Cody. We threw him away. G Pop sent us a real one from Dayo and next thing we knew,
Rosenberg
we was doing parades.
Ebro Darden
You run to Atlanta when you need a check balance. Let me Atlanta tell you about my R. You know what I'm saying? Ask Pluto bank of 21. You know what I'm saying?
Rosenberg
I really like the Bible one. That one response I like. Okay, you don't.
Ebro Darden
I like them. I mean, they're all fine.
Rosenberg
No, I mean some.
Ebro Darden
Well, I'm over it. I'm all. Guys, I'm sorry.
Rosenberg
You're over it?
Ebro Darden
The beef is over. Like, it's already over. I mean, no, it now them not liking each other. Okay, let me. The battle is over.
Laura Styles
Wrong.
Ebro Darden
The battle is over. They are no longer battling. Do they still have beef and not like each other? Do they represent different things in hip hop? Absolutely. Are they different people that think the other one is full of. Full of shit?
Rosenberg
Yes.
Ebro Darden
But as far as the battle is over. So you're just.
Rosenberg
This is the first album, though, we've gotten since it happened, so. But I'm just saying you're personally done with it.
Ebro Darden
I'm fine. I mean, it was. It was good stuff. All right, so I'm still. When I heard those things. I'm sorry, Laura Styles. When I heard those things, what actually triggered to me was that the Kendrick records still hit harder than those Drake records. Drake had bars right there, but those Kendrick records still hit harder.
Laura Styles
All right, here's a few more. The one he went towards, A$AP Rocky, he says, your baby mama ain't even post a single. Damn. Where's she at? Damn. Where's she at? I was a little annoyed because I was like, why are you.
Rosenberg
What does the line mean?
Laura Styles
Basically saying that Rihanna didn't post, not even a single when he dropped his album.
Rosenberg
Oh, that's what he's trying to say.
Ebro Darden
But I saw Rihanna promoting the release of his album.
Laura Styles
I did, too. They're saying then he has a line that says, I'll take 500k, not the dinner. I would never learn from none of y'.
Ebro Darden
All. That was that. That was the whole. I was on Apple Music on Friday talking about that. I was talking about. No, I don't think anybody's really talking about that line. Yeah, that's another shot of hope. Him and Hova been having little exchanges for a while, but.
Rosenberg
But. But Jay literally just came out in that interview and said, like, why do people go after Drake in the way that they did? It wasn't right. Like, he kind of defended Drake in the battle.
Ebro Darden
It seemed like he thought the battle recorded before the.
Rosenberg
I know, but I might have. I might have.
Laura Styles
All right.
Ebro Darden
Yes. Basking.
Rosenberg
I'll say the worst. The worst. Whole lot.
Ebro Darden
I don't know if you have. It was when he said, you guys
Rosenberg
been island hopping, and all of them
Ebro Darden
stuff is redacted from the Epstein files. I think that was probably.
Laura Styles
Oh, I didn't have that one.
Ebro Darden
I heard that line in the album, but I didn't know if that was at Hove.
Rosenberg
I mean, there's nobody else in hip
Ebro Darden
hop who was redacted from many files, but was hov redacted from a file.
Laura Styles
Well, because he wasn't technically mentioning the actual files. That stupid hotline.
Ebro Darden
It was an FBI hotline.
Rosenberg
Louie Louie, you have something.
Ebro Darden
He's alluding to that. And push it. But my point is, is it wasn't redacted.
Rosenberg
I mean, he's just being cute, I think, with the idea of redacting.
Ebro Darden
Yeah.
Laura Styles
All right.
Rosenberg
Diddy's redacted, you know.
Laura Styles
All right. And of course, the. The one that's being talked about a lot is his relationship with LeBron James. We mentioned that. Please don't stop asking me what's going on with 23andMe. I'm real and he's not. It's in my DNA. And then he goes at Mustard. I think you guys saw that.
Rosenberg
What was the Mustard.
Laura Styles
Mustard heard about us. Got to catch up to the slaps. You ain't had a. You ain't had one since me and YG wrapped I cap.
Rosenberg
Yeah, he had his biggest hit last year.
Ebro Darden
He was.
Rosenberg
He was in the Super Bowl. Kendrick screamed. I'm trying to.
Ebro Darden
Guys. I'm trying to. So my problem with all this is I'm trying To enjoy Iceman. And I'm trying to enjoy habibti. And I'm trying to enjoy maid of honor. Enjoy them. And this stuff makes me not enjoy. Okay, but I don't like that. I feel like. Yeah, I feel like y' all hating. I'm the biggest Drake fan up here, and you guys are a bunch of. I just want to say that.
Laura Styles
All right. And then the Rick Ross one. When he says I was Aiden Ross, I was Aiden Ross with the streams before Aiden Ross had ever streamed.
Rosenberg
I was Aiden Ross Ross.
Ebro Darden
I was hating Rick Ross.
Rosenberg
That's a good bar.
Laura Styles
Yeah. Yeah.
Rosenberg
You know, before we forget, I do want to say the one thing that annoys me the most about this whole thing. I don't like that rap has changed in the last few years. The Kendrick, Drake Beef did this breaking down lyrics where now every bar is thought of as. Will it work as a think piece on TikTok of like, what he's saying is aiding Ross, but that's Aiden Ross.
Ebro Darden
But that's aideing.
Rosenberg
But then Bob Ross and then aids, and you're like, no, I don't think.
Ebro Darden
But I'm different than you. I'm annoyed by it, but I like it.
Rosenberg
But it's changed what people now consider great lyrics. And I'm like, some of them are good and some of them you try.
Ebro Darden
Isn't that forever, though? Isn't that forever? Where there's been rappers who tried too hard and it didn't hit.
Rosenberg
I just see people now really performing for that crowd.
Ebro Darden
Yeah, they are, but. But you're annoyed by social media and tiktokers breaking stuff down full stop.
Rosenberg
That's it.
Laura Styles
Okay, so let's move on. Shakira, Madonna, and BTS are going to headline the first World cup halftime show.
Rosenberg
Let's go back to Drake.
Ebro Darden
I was going to go, yo into the show. Thanks for coming out.
Laura Styles
No, but seriously, I just. Bts, that's gonna be insanity.
Rosenberg
Well, it's already gonna be insanity. Yeah.
Laura Styles
So to add a little more, the
Ebro Darden
BTS thing is gonna be insanity because how many people they gonna have on stage? How many people in that group? 15.
Laura Styles
No, I think it's like maybe like seven. I don't know.
Ebro Darden
All right, so I was way off with 15.
Rosenberg
Yeah. That's crazy. No, it's the first time ever. This is how washed the World cup is this time. No one wants to come to the U.S. no one wants to buy the tickets. The energy around it is not high. They created a halftime show like it's the super bowl for the first time ever.
Laura Styles
Have you seen the clips of people when they're asking people in different countries, are you going to the World Cup? They were like, why? So I can get deported by ice. No way. I'm not spending my money.
Rosenberg
Yeah, we're not hot out here, guys. I don't know if you know this. Remember Trump said we're the hottest country in the world.
Ebro Darden
For the first time since the Great Depression, more people have moved out of America than moved out in right now.
Rosenberg
Really?
Ebro Darden
Yes.
Rosenberg
More.
Ebro Darden
More.
Laura Styles
Wow.
Ebro Darden
More have left America moved out than moved in since. First time since. Great.
Laura Styles
Wow.
Rosenberg
That's a crazy stat. That's a really crazy stat.
Laura Styles
Anyway, guys, let's wrap this up. That was the rundown.
Ebro Darden
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Laura Styles
Elr.
Ebro Darden
Yeah, Shout out to Cozy Earth, too. That Cozy Earth be ringing off in the house. I swear to God. And I. This is not just because they're advertising. Cozy Earth is a real conversation in our house where Jazz will be like, I can't wait to get home and get in my Cozy Earth. All these sheets are different. It's non stop, bro. Bro. Her pajamas. Cozy Earth. She went ham on the Cozy Earth, bro.
Rosenberg
Yo, Coach.
Laura Styles
Team Cozy.
Ebro Darden
That's crazy. All right, look, tomorrow we back in the building. The next couple of weeks, I'll tell the audience, man, it's hit and miss for me. I gotta go to London. I gotta go to San Francisco. Got a lot of work I'm doing this year. We setting up the Apple Music. A new Apple Music studio situation is coming to the world.
Laura Styles
Wow. Exciting.
Rosenberg
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
Yeah.
Laura Styles
That's cool.
Ebro Darden
Big deal. Big.
Rosenberg
Huge.
Ebro Darden
Kind of huge. So we working on that right now. So I got to do some traveling, but we got you.
Rosenberg
We got it.
Ebro Darden
You hold me down, we're going to
Rosenberg
hold this thing down.
Ebro Darden
Hold me down.
Rosenberg
This ELR show.
Ebro Darden
You got it? You got it. We didn't get any calls today. Grip. Nobody wanted to talk about Drake. Two people hung up, man. 844 ELR. ELR 3 is the number. I. I find that interesting.
Rosenberg
Nobody wants the phone. I know. Going to give you a month before I hit the phone with the womp.
Laura Styles
Womp? Yeah.
Ebro Darden
Huh.
Rosenberg
I mean, I'm surprised, but maybe it's like, I wonder if we brought something from radio that we think is, like,
Ebro Darden
really and nobody cares. Like, I type it in.
Rosenberg
If I want to talk to you, I'll type it in. If not, I'll write you an email. I don't know.
Laura Styles
All right, bye, guys.
Ebro Darden
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Episode 101: Drake Album Reactions + No Kars for Kids (5/18/26)
Date Published: May 18, 2026
Hosts: Ebro Darden, Laura Stylez, Peter Rosenberg
Listen Here: [YouTube/Podcast platforms]
This episode dives into two major themes:
Alongside these headline topics, Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg touch on media dynamics, political organizing, AOC’s speeches in the South, and transparency in music and philanthropy.
a. Album Structure & Business Motives
b. Reactions to the Music
c. Thematic Continuity & Critique
d. Cultural Appropriation & Globalization
e. Political Underpinnings
f. Album Comparisons in Hip-Hop’s Legacy
g. Gender, Sexuality, & the Drake Persona
The episode blends sharp cultural critique, nerdy lyrical dissection, humor, and earnest political advocacy. The hosts' conversational banter is casual, brisk, and sometimes playfully combative.
You’ll learn:
(Advertisements and sponsorship segments, as well as non-content banter, were omitted from this summary.)