102.) Laura's Late, AP-Swatch Fiasco, + Mamdani's New York (5/19/26)

Summary

The Ebro, Laura & Rosenberg Show

Episode 102: Laura's Late, AP-Swatch Fiasco, + Mamdani's New York

Date: May 19, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Ebro, Laura & Rosenberg Show kicks off with Laura running late and Ebro away in “foggy London town,” leaving Rosenberg to helm the discussion with Laura joining shortly after. The episode blends hilarious banter about personal mishaps, deep dives into cultural phenomena (the AP x Swatch fiasco, fan culture, and the latest Drake drop), political rants on current events, and touching moments with listener calls and “guru” advice. The show’s signature is a witty, unfiltered take on music, news, and New York culture, all handled with a grin and a bit of side-eye.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Laura's Tardy Arrival & Show Dynamics

• Laura’s lateness: Rosenberg gleefully calls out Laura for being the first to show up officially late due to multiple Uber cancellations. This leads to laughs comparing Manhattan and Brooklyn commutes.
  • “This is literally why I still live in Manhattan… when you're coming from Brooklyn, you are at the mercy of things like this.” —Rosenberg [01:24]
  • Laura jokes, “Okay. I'm just getting myself together. Hold on.” [03:48]
• Ebro’s Absence: Ebro’s “mysterious” travel style is ribbed. Rosenberg jokes about never knowing when Ebro will actually return.

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2. AP x Swatch Fiasco: Hype, AI, and Disappointment

• Origins: Laura recounts how even her Uber driver asked her about the AP x Swatch collaboration, illustrating the hype’s reach.
  • “It's just funny to me how people lost their minds over this stupid collaboration.” —Laura [06:45]
• AI Generated Craze: The watches that went viral were based on AI-generated images, not real products. Even AP employees hadn't seen the real thing.
  • “There were these AI-generated photos of these dope ass watches... even I saw ’em and I was like, ‘Oh my God, these are fly.’” —Laura [07:04]
• Line Chaos & Disillusion: Rosenberg and Laura play social footage of people lining up for days, only to end up with unexpected pocket watches instead of the expected wristwatches.
  • “Swatch are some liars, okay? They lied to all of us. We was out here five days straight, no shower, barely eating, barely going to the bathroom.” —Fan video [07:50]
• Resale Hysteria: Both hosts critique reseller culture for fueling irrational lines and chaos over limited drops.
  • “Congratulations, you played yourself.” —Laura [11:03]
• Consumerism Rant: Rosenberg riffs on modern consumer madness, “If you got it, you really ain’t hanging out on the line for five days.” [11:08]

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3. Fan Culture & Drake’s Triple Album Drop

• Twitter Spaces & Streaming Parties: They discuss hyper-coordinated “fan” activity to boost chart numbers, especially among Drake’s fans, and fan cultures around Nicki Minaj and Beyoncé.
  • “There’s, like, hundreds of kids just basically like, yeah, let’s do it! Let’s do it for Drake. Is this real?” —Rosenberg [14:48]
• Lyric Analysis & Internet Debates: Rosenberg dives into the obsessive lyric breakdowns that exploded post-Drake vs. Kendrick battle.
  • “Sometimes people… everyone’s so focused these days on the bar hitting in three different ways that there were bars that only hit one way that are more fire than your bar that hit three different ways.” —Rosenberg [16:47]
• Album Length & Skippables: They debate the challenge of making a long, skip-free record (referencing classic albums like Cuban Linx and Chronic 2001), and question if Drake’s recent work has real “slaps.”
  • “He only got like seven standout songs and none of them hit like Take Care… You really don’t feel it, bro.” —Caller “OVO Rick” [24:38]
• Drake’s Place in History: Listeners and hosts acknowledge that Drake’s move is unprecedented—three albums, trying to leave a label while still racking up numbers even as some fans concede the work isn’t classic.

Notable Quotes:

• “Drake still got it…he knows what to do marketing-wise because he’s killing ’em with that, you heard? But really, did every album stand out? No, bro.” —OVO Rick (Caller) [24:48]
• “If you want the health care system to change, we need new people to be elected. Killing the CEO…he's not there gonna change the business, bro.” —Rosenberg [78:53]

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4. Nutrition, the Yuka App, and Modern Food Anxiety

• Laura and Rosenberg bond over obsessing on the Yuka barcode scanner app, exposing unhealthy “clean-looking” products:
  • “I got obsessed with it because when I started buying snacks for my daughter… all these brands that we thought were clean, they got sold to giant corporations…” —Laura [12:15]
  • “You hit some of these bad foods with the Yuka app, it literally starts beeping at you like, do not eat this.” —Rosenberg [13:10]

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5. Culture, Politics & New York Talk

A. Hunter Biden Interview & Grifter Culture

• Candace Owens’ much-hyped interview with Hunter Biden is skewered as a self-serving stunt with little political value:
  • “What does him having a political conversation and giving her props for asking the real questions do except benefit Candace Owens and make her look like she’s some better person than she actually is?” —Rosenberg [37:23]
  • “Grif twist is what it is.” —Laura [37:44]

B. NYC Politics & Cultural Events

• Discussion of Assemblyman Zohran Mamdani’s participation in the Inner Circle’s parody musical skit: auto-tune, inside baseball New York jokes, and city cultural references
  • “We will free our city from the scourge of barefoot people who bring those little tree slack lines to the park…” —Mamdani (Inner Circle, via auto-tune) [39:55]
• Mamdani’s legislative win: $31M+ library and parks funding celebrated by Laura, who passionately defends libraries’ vital role for families and children.
  • “The libraries are incredible…you can go do so many things…people are there to help you.” —Laura [43:20]

C. January 6th “Insurrection Fund”

• Hosts react with outrage to reports of a $1.7 billion fund for January 6 defendants.
  • “This is the…ultimate playing in our face.” —Rosenberg [46:18]
  • “Because there are no real consequences.” —Laura [46:33]

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6. Listener Calls & Community Engagement

• Several callers weigh in on Drake’s albums, lyric analysis, and album length, contributing to a lively, thoughtful exchange.
• Super chats highlight civic responsibility (“…these same fools will show up to buy a $3,000 watch but won’t vote.” —Akeem Broderick [48:52]) and poke fun at fans’ priorities.

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7. True Crime & Public Reaction

• Mangioni Case Update: Laura recaps a big legal win for accused United Healthcare CEO killer Luigi Mangioni, with the judge throwing out certain evidence.

  • “But it's so crazy that the fan base he has…people put tons of money on his books.” —Laura [57:01]
  • Rosenberg expresses perplexity at “fans” of criminal suspects: “A lot of y’all are bad parents…I hope I get it right.” [57:42]

• San Diego Mosque Shooting: somber coverage of a tragic hate crime with hosts urging parents to monitor their kids’ online radicalization and lamenting the role of AI in spreading misinformation and hate.

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8. Rosenberg & Laura’s Social Commentary

• Online Radicalization: “These kids are being radicalized online…they start finding these gym bros and then the gym bros become the podcast bros…the podcast bros send them to the more…” —Laura [63:13]
• AI Content Concerns: “Parents are realizing that their kids…have been taught the wrong way these initial things…we have to pay attention to what we are consuming.” —Rosenberg [63:56]
• Laura Loomer’s Islamophobic Rant: Rosenberg denounces Loomer’s hate speech: “As a Jew, I speak on behalf of all moral Jews. We disavow this Islamophobe monster. She should be in jail.” [65:12]

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9. The Guru Segment

Advice for a Listener:

• A 46-year-old writes about estrangement from their mother who never invites her or her children to her home, while her mother now faces mental decline.
  • “You're not going to change her…you want to see her, figure out another way to see her.” —Rosenberg [73:56]
  • “If you decide, I'm just going to cut her off and I'm not going to engage anymore, it's something you have to be okay with for the rest of your life.” —Laura [75:17]
• Strong advice to seek therapy if needed, be honest with kids, and focus on what relationships are possible—not what “ought” to be.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Time | Quote/Event | Speaker | |--------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------| | 01:24 | “This is literally why I still live in Manhattan… because ultimately, when you're coming from Brooklyn, you are at the mercy of things like this.” | Rosenberg | | 07:04 | “There were these AI-generated photos of these dope ass watches… even I saw ‘em and I was like, ‘Oh my God, these are fly.’” | Laura | | 11:03 | “Congratulations, you played yourself.” | Laura | | 14:48 | “There’s, like, hundreds of kids just basically like, yeah, let’s do it! Let’s do it for Drake. Is this real?” | Rosenberg | | 16:47 | “Everyone’s so focused these days on the bar hitting in three different ways that there were bars that only hit one way that are more fire than your bar that hit three different ways.” | Rosenberg | | 24:38 | “He only got like seven standout songs and none of them hit like Take Care… You really don’t feel it, bro.” | OVO Rick (caller) | | 43:20 | “The libraries are incredible…you can go do so many things at the library. People are there to help you.” | Laura | | 46:18 | “This is the…ultimate playing in our face.” | Rosenberg | | 57:42 | “A lot of y'all are bad parents. I know I'm new to this…but…what in the bad parenting did you do?” | Rosenberg | | 63:13 | “These kids are being radicalized online…they start finding these gym bros and then the gym bros become the podcast bros…” | Laura | | 65:12 | “As a Jew, I speak on behalf of all moral Jews. We disavow this Islamophobe monster.” | Rosenberg | | 79:03 | “You shouldn’t murder people. That’s today’s theme… Don’t murder people.” | Rosenberg |

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• Laura’s lateness & Show Start: [01:17–03:48]
• AP x Swatch Fiasco: [06:26–11:08]
• Yuka App/Nutrition Talk: [11:38–13:24]
• Drake Album/Fan Culture: [13:35–25:41]
• Long Albums/Song Skippable Debate: [22:27–26:32]
• Political: Candace Owens & Hunter Biden: [34:41–37:44]
• NYC Inner Circle/Mamdani skit: [39:43–41:35]
• NYC Library/Park Funding: [42:57–44:36]
• January 6th Insurrection Fund Monologue: [44:58–47:20]
• Voting & Civic Engagement: [48:52–49:41]
• Mangioni True Crime & Fan Reactions: [55:43–58:53]
• San Diego Mosque Shooting & Online Radicalization: [61:21–66:54]
• Guru Segment (Listener Family Advice): [68:44–76:40]

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Conclusion

This episode exemplifies the show’s blend of irreverent, incisive analysis of pop and political culture, anchored by real caller voices and a dash of therapy-room wisdom. Laura and Rosenberg bounce from watch-nerd absurdity to the trauma of mass culture, measuring each story’s meaning via the lens of New York, hip hop, and family. If one lesson echoes above the noise: Don’t murder people, go vote, question the hype — and above all, laugh through the chaos.

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Contact/Participation:

• Gurus Segment: [e-mail]
• Freedom Friday/Listener Mail: ebro laura [e-mail]
• Social:
  • X/Twitter: @theelrshow
  • TikTok: @ebrolaurarosenberg

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Just don't call it a podcast. The Ebro Laura Rosenberg shows. Oh, my goodness. There's a lot going on today, folks. Welcome to the Ebro Laura Rosenberg Show. Rosenberg show minus Ebro and Laura. Laura is on her way. However, she has the unfortunate distinction of being the first person of the three of us. Officially late to the program. She had multiple Ubers cancel on her. This is literally why I still live in Manhattan, even though it's a pain in the ass and expensive. Because ultimately, when you're coming from Brooklyn, you are at the mercy of things like this. When it happens, she does a great job. But today she came up short. So hold on, let me hit her with a congratulations. You played yourself. Ebro is in foggy London town. Yeah, he's a chap about town eating Nando's. So he's doing apple things and he. Whenever Ebro travels, it's very unclear how long he'll be gone. It's this weird game that he plays. We never addressed this. This should be a good Family Matters episode. I've never in my life known someone like, there are, like, artists and athletes who travel the world constantly who you'd be able to have a clearer idea of their schedule than Ibro. He, like, he doesn't make any sense. Like, it's just hard to Ever get a read of? Wait, so are you going to be busy? Are you gone? It seemed like this week, based on the way he spoke, that he will not be on. Really? Again. Now, if you want a heavy dose of Ebro, what you have is a Patreon episode. Chalk full of Ibrahim. Oh, yeah, we did. What was that, like an hour 25? Yeah, no, it was over 90 minutes. Yeah, so we did like an hour and 40 podcasts. We did a lot of Drake, but a lot of other stuff too, and that was a goodie. Now, Bascom, since I'm not sitting over there, can't Laura sit, like, at a normal distance for us to talk, like, slightly further away from me? It's just awkward. Big ass empty room. And she just pulls up right next to you. Hi, Lauda. You made it. Look, the intro song's still playing. Not even bad.

[A]

Okay. I'm just getting myself together. Hold on.

[B]

Bascom helps you by starting the show five minutes late because Louie sent them a 90 minute clip of Max B. Oh, my God. At the last minute. So you caught a little bit of a break there. But anyways, we got a lot of stuff to get into today. We're gonna talk to you in the chat and the super chat. Someone said it's gonna be a ranting Rosenberg show. No, it's not. Not gonna be a ranting Rosenberg show. Everyone calm down. I got a big rant out of my system with the whole Jason Lee thing. I'm feeling very relieved right now. Yeah, I'm feeling very. I'm feeling very Zen. Zen, Zen, Zen, Zen.

[A]

Okay, good, good, good, good, good.

[B]

Is that where you want her to, Bascom, you come down a little bit. I'm not sure I love being close to you. I'm just like. I want to be able to turn my head and see you.

[A]

Okay, okay, okay. I hit the chat, and I told him I was running late.

[B]

Oh, you did, did they?

[A]

I don't know. I just wrote, sorry, guys, I'm running late. And I. That's it. And I hopped right out.

[B]

Yo, Respectfully, to the person who just dropped in a 99 cents. I mean, what am I supposed to do with that in this economy?

[A]

Come on.

[B]

No, listen, I appreciate you. At this point, $0.99 in the chat is like a homeless person asks for money. You're like, oh, man. Oh, my God. And you hand them, like, three pennies. Like, what am I gonna do with this? They're not even making the penny anymore. It's a rat. It's quiet for the penny. 99 cents is tough. Marvin says Rosenberg is validated. Finally. Thank God. No, I'm not. I will never probably be fully validated, but we were in there doing the work yesterday. Studio's almost done.

[A]

I know. I'm so excited.

[B]

Natalie's coming up here for the first time today for us to work on some stuff.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It's feeling really good. The studio will be a continuous, like, work in progress. But I want to start. I don't want to. I don't want to hinder the start by waiting for it to be perfect.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

But it's gonna look good. Shout out to Omar. He's been in there working with me every day.

[A]

So I also love the excitement around validate me. A lot of people are looking forward to it, which should make you feel really good.

[B]

I feel validated that people want to see my process to validation. Well, no, some people are like, they're simultaneously making fun of the rollout while it's also, I think, kind of working. Yeah, yeah. Like this long. This long. What do you think, Louie? You're our digital guru. It's a weird way I've gone about it, but I still feel like it's kind of doing its job at this point. It's been lingering for so long that I just think, you know, the anticipation has grown just slightly. It's like, oh, is this a thing? Where is this? It started. It didn't start, but I set a date. I promised it would be May.

[A]

Right, right, right.

[B]

So it's going to be a week from Thursday. The first episode of Val.

[A]

Right, right, right, right.

[B]

Anyways, Lauda, what's going on in your world?

[A]

No, I. You know, I was laughing because as I was running late, I was talking to my Uber driver. You know what he asked me? He's like, so did you get one of those AP Swatch watches? I was like, absolutely not.

[B]

Wait, why did he randomly ask you this?

[A]

I don't know. We were just talking. I think he complimented me on my sneakers.

[B]

Okay. Oh, he saw you were fly.

[A]

Yes, yes, yes. And he was like, oh, I was trying to get those. So we just started, like, small talk, but. But it's just funny to me how people lost their minds over this stupid collaboration.

[B]

And did it actually come out? Cause I heard they had to shut it down a couple of times.

[A]

So what happened was, is that they were. No, I'm not gonna say they. Because it didn't officially come from AP or Swatch.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

There were these AI generated photos of these dope ass watches. Cause even I saw em and I was like, oh, my God, these are flying. And they were just like. Just one color. Like, all red, all blue, all yellow. But they look good. So the Internet started going nuts. So I had asked one of my homegirls that knows somebody at ap. I was like, hey, what's the deal with these? I was like, can you find out? She told me that her guy was like, hey, there's all these AI generated images. We ourselves haven't even seen the product they hadn't seen. Yeah. Remind you, he's an employee. Right, right, right. So people started lining up for days. I think we might even have a video of how crazy things have gotten. Let me see video over there.

[B]

Bascom, bro, first of all, I want to say swatches some liars, okay? They lied to all of us. We was out here five days straight, no shower, barely eating, barely going to the bathroom. They like.

[A]

They split the line into four lines.

[B]

They went left, they went right. They went into this little group of section. I don't even know if this is a line. And they missed everybody that slept in the back and laid their head on that coffee. I laid my head on that floor. Get the floor. And they missed everybody back there. That's some bull. They caused this chaos. This was their plan the whole time. Day, morning. We have not left. We have been here, rain, shine, whatever. Have not left this spot, bro. And everybody starts cutting, man. And now Ohio, bro. Now I'm flying home. That is up. Ain't got nothing, bro. Ohio is crazy. That is wild. Free that innocent man, yo. Free that innocent man.

[A]

He ain't even doing mess, yo, by

[B]

the way, this is such a. Oh, my God.

[A]

Wait, and then Versan go to. Let me see. I think. Oh, no. I thought we had a con. A. Do we have a. A Canal street one? I think number four. You have a picture. Look at this. This is what they look like, Rosenberg. Because after the AI generated watches, everyone thought it was a regular wristwatch. It's a pocket watch. They came out as pocket watches.

[B]

So that's what it turned out to be. So you can't even do anything. You can't rock it.

[A]

I mean, it's a pocket watch, and it's nothing like the images that everyone thought they were gonna get.

[B]

Put your mike, you know, you have a mic on your.

[A]

Talk about high in the face.

[B]

All right, we have Long Island. Let's take a look at Long Island. I told y' all to move.

[A]

Look at that. Yeah,

[B]

so can we talk about what this is?

[A]

I mean, sure.

[B]

Because, yes, this is weird and insane. Or ap. But like, to me, it just shows that all the people out there who see all these celebrities with the watches and they hear about the watches, that many people. Realistically, that many people know and care about AP like that. Like, they don't.

[A]

They don't.

[B]

They're just used to hearing rappers reference AP and things like that.

[A]

But then I also look at it, because I don't blame Swatch or apologize.

[B]

I just know they wanted to do something cool.

[A]

Exactly. It's people that. That lose their minds. Like all these resellers.

[B]

Look, there's people who it's probably mostly.

[A]

Yeah. That make. Make a living, and now they make a living off of just reselling hard to get items. But that commotion is insane. But imagine camping out for five days, Rosenberg, thinking you're going to get one thing and it's not what you expected.

[B]

Let me tell you something. I can't imagine camping out for five days, because I wouldn't camp out for five days for nothing. Yes, King Louis. And then not only that, they had to close basically all those stores. So most of those people that were lined up to get those watches.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

Or they closed them to shut them down. Swatch had to announce that this is not a limited release. Therefore, it will be available for the next couple months. So all this commotion for nothing, bro. Oh, like, don't worry. We got enough of these. Yeah, we got enough.

[A]

It's not limited. Hit the button. This is the biggest. Congratulations, man.

[B]

You played yourself.

[A]

I cannot.

[B]

And also SD Skill kids.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yo. People are really. But that is the consumerism bullish that we're all victims of to varying degrees. But then you see people who really don't got it. Because if you got it, you really ain't hanging out on the line for five days.

[A]

No. But even if I see a line to get coffee, I'm like, do I really need this coffee?

[B]

Yeah, there's a Dunkin down the street.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

Oh, the Duncan's. Too crowded. Well, you know what? There's a cart guy.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I'm not. Whatever it is. By the way, I was telling these guys earlier, this damn Yuka app, it's got me checking everything.

[A]

Oh, my God. Yeah. That's how I was when I first got it.

[B]

So I tried to. I stopped at gracefully, this incredibly overpriced grocery store on the way between my house and here. And I was like, let me just grab some oatly. And I was like, you know what? I was like, Let me hit oatly with the yuca. Nope. I kept going until I found an oat milk mug that was, you know, it was only $8.99, and it was an 88. It tastes like straight lead.

[A]

I know, I know, I know. There's one called Malk that's pretty clean and tastes okay.

[B]

Cause this isn't great.

[A]

It tastes okay. Yeah. Just for the audience. There's this app that I was obsessed with, and I don't even know how Rosenberg got it.

[B]

No. Natalie then put me onto it. I'd already heard about it. I had a little phase with it a while ago, and then I went, like, now I'm really trying.

[A]

Yes, yes, yes. So it's called UKA Y U K A. They don't sponsor us. They should. But you scan the barcodes, and it basically break down all the nutrition in whatever product. So it's. It scores it, like, from good to bad.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then it tells you why it's bad. So I got obsessed with it because when I started buying snacks for my

[B]

daughter, that's how Natalie. Really?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So all of these brands that we thought were, like, clean and they got sold to giant corporations like General Mills, and. You know what I mean?

[B]

And they started changing and getting worse and worse, and you don't even realize it.

[A]

Yeah. They change the ingredients, they start adding all these chemicals to it, and you think that this is my brand, my go to, but in reality, it's sold, and it's not the same.

[B]

I mean, while you hit some of these bad foods with the Yuca app, it literally starts beeping at you, like, do not eat this.

[A]

Yes. This is. You're eating Styrofoam.

[B]

This is actually. This is not food that you're attempting to consume. So anyways, this oat milk, though. Oh, man. It is not dope.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

So, folks, a lot of things to talk about today. I'm deciding whether or not we should.

[A]

What?

[B]

So what was the Drake convo yesterday? Do you have the video of the Drake fans going crazy on Twitter? Oh, my God. Drake just dropped three albums. And these verses are crazy. What about these verses? And see, that's what. Now your names got redacted. Yeah. Now got a strong. That's why I hate it. Ironic, because the Iceman was a nice man. Now I'm hot and cold. Very active. Very active. There was some sort of, like. What was the meeting, Louie, that happened with the people on Twitter? What do they call it with Twitter people? So the space. Yeah.

[A]

Spaces.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was the. What were they doing? You have that video too? No. Okay. You know, the video of the Twitter spaces? They were just. Yeah. Meeting up and just kind of like, hey, so make sure everybody streams in the next 24 hours. We have to make sure Drake is still charting very high at the end of the week. It's like hundreds of kids just basically like, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it for Drake. Is this real? Like, I just don't know.

[A]

But, yeah, you have to understand. So, like, people who have crazy fan bases, this is what they do. So it's not just Drake. It happens. I've seen it with other people. I've seen it with Nicki Minaj. I've seen it with Beyonce fans. You know, anyone who has a big platform, a big following, Like, I see it. It's weird to us because we're just like, really? That's what you're doing? But, yeah, that's what these kids do.

[B]

Yeah. I just wonder, like, you know, how much of this changed around. Like, it was already bad, but I just keep questioning how much the battle made things worse. I put up that video on my Instagram last night from our show yesterday where I was making fun of the. The think pieces on lyrics, and some people were like, ah, no, it's always been like that. No, no, listen, obviously people have always broken down lyrics, but it unquestionably, post battle, became a more mainstream, like, Internet thing to do of, like, breaking down every single entendre of a rap lyric. And my point is that sometimes now listening back to it, I feel like artists are almost making really making things for that purpose. And I'm not saying that the bars aren't good in doing that. I'm just saying is that really how everyone consumes rap? And is that really what makes a lyric good is just only if it hits in four different ways? Like, sometimes people. This isn't a shot of Drake. This is about Kendrick too, sometimes. Everyone's so focused these days on the bar hitting in three different ways that there were bars that only hit one way that are more fire than your bar that hit three different ways.

[A]

I get it, I get it, I get it.

[B]

Like, I'm just saying, like, I consider Prodigy one of the greatest rappers of all time. I'm not saying he didn't have any double entendres, but not every bar was that. Some of it's about the way you rap, the kind of words you choose

[A]

to use, the cadence of delivery, how

[B]

you choose which parts of the words you choose to rhyme. And, and in the case of Mobb Deep, for example, just so I can stay in my clear 90s New York hip hop head vibe. But everyone already thinks I am exclusively anyway. Like, it's the vocabulary. You literally made up that, like, I mean, let's just, I'm just gonna say this right now. And I know Drake fans might get mad about it. I mean, just, Croty ain't fucking with Dunn. Let's just be honest. Croty ain't the little duns or thuns, depending who you ask. I've never in my life called anyone croty. Now done. That may be different, but obviously I'm joking. But, like, slang is important and all the different things that you bring to the table beyond like, yo, Croty. But did you see that? The bar hit nine different ways. Like the one I posted of that guy breaking down the tie. Win or lose, Winsor lose or not. Windsor, like a Windsor knot on a tie. I was like, bro, we're doing ties. What are we taught?

[A]

I, I, look, I just, it's funny to me, and it's, it's amusing to see people discover, like, rap lyrics this way because Rewind. Like, we all kind of did that, you know what I mean? Coming up. So I, it's, you know, people are very excited. I get it. And sometimes you're just like, oh, my God, like, really? I know, but it's not like we haven't seen this before, so that's why I don't, I don't give it too much.

[B]

Yeah, my wife just texted me and said I need to fix my eyebrows. Your eyebrow, by the way. First off, what a classic. First of all, what a classic text from my wife. You look good in that seat. Hold on. What's that? We got calls. Yes. Clockwork Mellow on the phone. Defending Drake. All right, eight, four, four, elr ELR three. Listen, we have no Ebro today, so we have lots of words to make up. So hit them phones. 8, 4, 4, ELR ELR 3. Do I have the phones potted up? Let's see. So, Melo, what's up? I'm thinking of them coming from the point of view of somebody who's been making music for years. Okay. And not somebody who's been on the street for years. So their, their rapping is more from the perspective of somebody who's trying to sound like somebody from the street versus people who are actually in the street who are rapping about the day to day and the environment that they're around and people that they come across versus, like somebody like him who's always in isolation. Been in isolation. He's made albums. Talking about his isolation, like, what is it? Nothing. Nothing existing. Nothing was the same. How are you calling it? How are you calling Defend Drake? You don't remember the name of the album? Nothing was the same. Yeah, yeah. Nothing was the same. Yeah, exactly. All right.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. With all due respect, what the fuck are you talking about? I love you. We love you. What are you saying?

[A]

He was just rambling, bro.

[B]

See, listen, Croty, here's the thing. He's been in isolation, bro. He's been on lockdown in Scarborough, by the way. You don't need. There's no need to call up and Defend Drake. That. Listen, I called it though, yesterday, the second Ebro said he went nine for 40. I knew people were going to run with that. And people did run with it.

[A]

Yeah, of course they did.

[B]

And here's why I thought Ebro was wrong twice. Number one, he was too. It was too negative and simultaneously too positive because he said it was nine. He had nine amazing songs out of 40. There were not nine amazing songs. I don't think. I don't know what. There were five amazing songs, but there were definitely more than nine good songs. There were definitely like 20 at least 20 joints that I thought were good.

[A]

Out of three albums?

[B]

Out of three albums. That's not bad.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This is the thing about putting up three albums, guys. I'm trying to think of what the longest album is ever that doesn't have multiple skippables. If that the background you hear Griff already getting annoyed with callers. That's how you know we're back. Phone lines are back, baby. Eight, four, four. Elr. Elr. Three. But like, honestly. And like, what's the longest album with like, without skips? Cuban Links. Cuban Links is what? Can you give me the length on Cuban Links? I think it's like 54 minutes or something like that. And Cuban Links doesn't really have any skips. I mean, I don't love knowledge. God. That much. But like, there's not much. 70 minutes. 70. Yeah. Wow. Cuban links is 70. And I don't think there's a bona fide. There's not an agreeing, agreed upon skipper on Cuban links. And that's 70 minutes.

[A]

I get it. But this. That was one project. He put out three different projects.

[B]

Impossible. Yeah, but that's. And that. And that is, if anything, how he played himself was. And I don't I don't even think he did, because I think that these came out pretty good. But, like, when you drop three projects, it's a lot. A lot of songs.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The total. What's the. Is the total of number of songs? 40. It might be more than 40. It's 42.

[A]

Yeah. It's a lot to consume, but, you know.

[B]

Did you sit with maid of honor yet?

[A]

I was. I was in the gym, and I was.

[B]

Good job.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I. And I remembered too late. I was like, damn it. So I hit, like, maybe, like 15 minutes of it. But maid of honor is actually pretty good.

[B]

It is good.

[A]

Yeah. I got to, like, really, you know, sit with it a little longer for the people who.

[B]

I'm sorry. Go ahead.

[A]

It's okay. No, because it was just for me. I was like. I forgot about it, you know, because I have my playlist.

[B]

How far did you get through?

[A]

I told you, just, like, 15 minutes. Yeah, so it was like three. I think it did, like, three, four songs.

[B]

Good Christ, man.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

To pick that up. Hello. You sound like a call center now. Hello? Who is this person? Bobby. What's good, my G? What's going on, bro? How you doing, man? What you got for us? I think chronic 2001. Oh, chronic 2001. How long is chronic 2001? King Louie? That's probably right around 70 minutes, too. And that doesn't really have a skipper either. 21 records.

[A]

21.

[B]

About three. 68 minutes. 68. 68 minutes. Okay, so it's a. It's a tad shorter. That's a good call, Bobby. Thank you, man. I don't know. All right. No, go ahead. What were you gonna say? I don't know if y' all want to include double hours, but Life Up To Death and All Eyes On Me is kind of the general consensus. I know. See, the thing is. Thank you for that, Bobby. Appreciate the call. I hear you. I think All Eyes On Me and Life After Death have just a couple of skippers. I know some people don't think so. And me and Rory have fought about this ad nauseam, especially after I got on the air and said that J. Cole had no skips and then went back and I found the Skips. But that's the thing. It's really hard at first to listen to these long albums. Who we got?

[A]

Griff?

[B]

Oh, oh, of course. Ovo. Rick. What's up, Rick?

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Hey, yo, fam. Goingy Goons. What's good with y', all, man? What's good, Goon? Yo, look, I'mma keep it H, man. Y' all know it's over. Rick all day. But as soon as the albums came out go. I even hit up Ebro and I told him, yo, go. Not for nothing, there's probably only seven good songs out of all three albums. I'll keep it 100. I'm not saying they're bad, but he only got like seven standout songs and none of them hit like to take cares the nut and was the same. You know how like as soon as you heard it, you felt something? Wow. No, I don't. You really don't feel it? Bro, it really ain't there no more. But we do got to understand this different errors of his career, you know, it's gonna be hard to get back. Damn, Rick, you're out on Drake, but

[A]

yeah, I'm so surprised.

[B]

You're like my OVO jersey. You heard me? Yeah.

[A]

You're like one of his number one fans. Wow. Seven out of three albums, bro. Even I'm like, no way.

[B]

Yeah, I think that's way low. There, There were, there were at least a handful on Iceman that were dope. There's more than a handful on Maid of Honor that are dope. That. That's a 10. Slaps we talking about Slaps? Slaps. Oh, oh, you're saying the official term slaps? How many actual slappers? Yeah, but, but luckily at least we still have, we still have a, a, a, a rapper that still could produce Slaps. Because a lot of people put out albums and you don't even care for one of the songs on it. You know what I mean? Drake still got it. He knows what to do marketing wise because he's killing him with that, you heard. But really, did the whole. Did every album stand out? No, bro, it really didn't. And I'm telling you, give me the honey. But it was great. It's a great listen. But you do got to skip through the songs to find the ones you want. Well, I'll tell you what then, Rick. After the last, after the last four years you've sent you spent cape and I'd like to say thank you for the call and congratulations. No, thanks, Rick.

[A]

Thank you, Rick.

[B]

Man. Yes, Bascom. I saw this in the chat. God damn. What is that? You gotta take it off.

[A]

Yeah, we can't, we can't. This is annoying.

[B]

Oh, I have to have the phone down. Okay, So I have to turn it back on when we take the callers. Got it. Okay. Sorry. We're learning, folks. Yes, Pastor I saw it in the chat and then I looked up the one time college dropout. 76 minutes. I thought college dropout was a little too long. I know there are people out there that are like, oh, my God, I skipped ahead on some college dropout. Did you, Laura?

[A]

No, no. I think I kind of. I let it. I used to just let it play.

[B]

Let me go. I'm gonna look right now. The problem was he has a skit after every song.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

That. That, to me, made it.

[A]

But again, the reason. It's like Drake put out three different albums. That's why I don't compare it to this. Like, it's a completely different way of looking at it.

[B]

No, I'm just trying to the point. Only point I was trying to make is just how hard it is even with one album.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Once you start getting to a longer. Because, like, let's be real. Nas hit the ultimate cheat code with Illmatic. Illmatic is the most universally loved immediately album in hip hop history, meaning the second it came out, everyone was like, oh, my God. It had an intro. It had halftime, which we already knew it had. It ain't hard to tell which was already old at that time or oldish. You got seven new songs.

[A]

I know.

[B]

It's seven new songs and the whole world. And I've always been amazed at how few artists have stuck with that as an idea. Now they're not even rewarded for it because the algorithm rewards you for more songs. But the more. Whenever I look at a track listing, I see it's like 20 or more. I'm like, overwhelmed. Griff, are you telling me you have a caller? Who we got? This episode is brought to you by Beneful. Mornings are when the grind starts. Stretches, immaculate cardio, crushed it, territory marked, sorry, geraniums. The dog routine is on point, but it can get a little wolf. That's why I fuel up with high protein, beneful freshly prepared meals. I'm eating clean, with real meat and veggies served fresh from the pantry. Kick boring in the bowl with beneful freshly prepared meals. Visit purina.com beneful to shop now.

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[B]

Milabro, you said Milagro. Milagro.

[A]

Milagro.

[B]

Sorry, Milagro. Hi, Milagro. Hi, Laura. Good morning, everyone. Good Morning.

[A]

Oh, my goodness.

[B]

I just wanted to call and say I love your show just so much, but I just wanted to chime in on the. The Drake conversation and the idea of, like, basically doing a shotgun blast. Basically, kind of the conversation you were saying about the algorithm rewarding people for having more songs. And I missed the time when people would be more curated and would have to. They would create a bullseye and try to hit that bullseye, and that would be the validation or the success if whether or not they're able to hit that, rather than trying to reach so many different people and so many different avenues. I wish that he just had a. Just a consistent voice and vision and, like, for one project instead of giving us so much work. But I really do love the maid of honor. That's probably my favorite because it's actually one you can just listen to. Yeah. Milagro, That's a great call. Thank you so much for the call.

[A]

Great point. Milagro.

[B]

We appreciate it. Like, because he. And that's the part that I guess makes it feel a little weak, is that he wasn't willing, after all this time, to be like, yo, I'm gonna just take my shot at dropping a masterpiece that makes people go, oh, my God. You can say what you want, but he has dropped his absolute perfect kind of album. But apparently he wanted to get out of his deal, and there's all these things around it. So, listen, choices are choices. I have always maintained that, for me, there was never a universal, absolute Drake classic. I'm not saying that to be a troll. I'm not saying that to be that guy. Of course, classic records, for sure.

[A]

Records for sure.

[B]

But, yeah, for me, there never was. Now, listen, I was of an age where when the first album came out, I was already my early 30s. It didn't hit the same way. I wasn't 21 years old.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

So I'm sure for people who are going out all the time, it sort of, you know, hit different, of course.

[A]

And I also. Listen, has any other artist dropped three albums at once? Has this happened before?

[B]

Three albums at once? I never knew. I remember three albums, especially three different kind of albums.

[A]

Right. Nobody's ever done this before. So he was just kind of like, yes, I'm gonna get out of my deal. I'm gonna create a spectacle. I'm gonna feed my fans in a different way.

[B]

You're right. And it is historic in that way.

[A]

Yeah. So whether he had, you know, his reasons. Yes. I do believe he was trying to get out of his deal, obviously, he's in the middle of, like, crazy lawsuits, but I also think that he wanted to do something extremely different. Look, these three albums, they're gonna be successful.

[B]

Oh, yeah?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I mean, yeah. No, they're gonna do the numbers, and that's never been an issue with Drake. He's gonna do it, but you're right. That's a really good point, Laura.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It is a historic and interesting thing to do. And also, like, respectfully to people like me, like, F me. It's not really for me. If I'm someone who already never thought Drake had a classic, what's the likelihood I was going to think this one was, like, he's never going to make. But you have to understand, this gets into my personal disagreements with him that we used to have in real life of. I was always pushing him towards more. When we had a very good relationship, I was always, yo, whatever. These new cats are on his shoulder. I was literally on the other shoulder. Like, I was being like, no more underground. Put Joey Badass on a song, Put Action Bronson on a song. Get Primo to a record. He eventually did, of course. When are you gonna do the little brother record that's on record? I had a member back in the day when Ustream was a thing, and I started my little thing called Juice Dream, and I was doing my little Juice Dreams, and I would jump on live and stuff. I have a Juice stream that Drake's on, and I, like, pushed him on the little brother stuff and doing something with Fonte. I know for some of you younger Drake has. You don't even know about that. Or you do, but you don't care. There were a lot of us who really wanted him to do that, like, because he always shouted out, little brother. And it was always like, ooh, is he gonna put Fonte on a record and give back and do that thing? And he never opted to do those things for whatever reason. I'm not. I'm not saying there's some terrible, nefarious thing.

[A]

Right, right, right, right, right.

[B]

But there are those of us. And again, F us, it's not for us. We were always waiting for those moments. Like, here's the moment when he truly does his cultural, like, because we know that he knows what's up. So is he ever gonna give us that album that's like, yo, I know what's up, and I'm giving y'. All. This is it. This is the. Yo, I got a song with this person. I did a song with that, and he went a Different way he went, I'm gonna break international artists. I'm gonna break the hottest street artists in the South. I'm gonna do. That's. That's what he opted for.

[A]

Yeah. These young up and coming artists. So it's not. I don't look at it as a bad thing because at the end of the day, like, I would. I think I mentioned this the other day, like, that girl Molly Santana's like, streams went, and she was just like, for her feature, you know what I mean?

[B]

Let me ask you a question. I'm Put you on the spot. If you don't know the answer, you can say it.

[A]

Yeah. I'll be honest.

[B]

Is Molly Santana dope?

[A]

I. She's not for me.

[B]

What's the vibe?

[A]

She's just not for me, like the songs that I've heard.

[B]

But is it rap? Is it rap?

[A]

Or is it kind of like, yeah, rap, ish.

[B]

Rapping.

[A]

Yeah, she does rap. She does rap. She does rap.

[B]

She rap.

[A]

I will call it rap. Yeah, she does rap. But my girls that are like 22, that I work with, that I. That, you know, from Envision, they love her. They love her. So that's what I'm saying. It's not for me. And that's okay. You know what I mean?

[B]

See, guys, look at us being diplomatic.

[A]

That's fine.

[B]

All right, let's. Let's. There's a lot of other things going on in the world. We can't do Drake every day, but we're gonna try. No, I mean, it's huge, though. People who get tight about it, like, guys, the biggest or second biggest or third biggest, I would say the biggest rapper in the game dropped three albums this week. We're gonna talk about it all week. So, like, anyone who thinks that's like, a troll, or why are you doing it? Or it's extra. Guys, he's the biggest rapper of this generation. Whether he's. Whether he's my favorite or not, that doesn't change the fact that when he drops, everything stops and we talk about it. So get used to it. All right, we covered the watches. I'm trying to decide what. What annoyed me the most from a political standpoint. Did you see that? Candace Owens is going to be interviewing Hunter Biden. I saw that make that make sense for me. Laura stuff.

[A]

I saw that. Do we have the clip?

[B]

No, I didn't. Oh, you did. I told. Not even bother. But go ahead. The FBI has had physical possession of Hunter Biden's laptop, which reportedly contains, well, a lot of disturbing Material. You have access to that actual laptop.

[A]

A jury found Hunter Biden guilty of three felony gun charges.

[B]

I abide by the jury decision. I will do that. And I will not pardon him.

[A]

Oopsies. He lied. He pardoned a crackhead. Hunter Biden. Welcome to the Candace Owens show.

[B]

I've heard you call me a crackhead many times, and the truth of the matter is, I was a crackhead. The quote, unquote laptop, which, by the way, is. You know what?

[A]

The laptop proved that you were a crackhead.

[B]

There you go. My marriage fell apart, and it just started a really, really dark cycle. My brother called me and said, this has got to stop. And it forced me into a choice. And the choice was, do I get out of bed and live or do I die?

[A]

D.C. is corrupt. Politics is corrupt.

[B]

But something's changed in this. It's not left or right. The DC elite of the. Of the left, they crushed my dad because he was never part of that club. He was never part of the Epstein class. You know, one thing he didn't do, he didn't greenlight to turn Gaza into a Trump golf course with the maitre d being Jared Kushner. War in Iran that they started, that every president before him was pressured by the Israelis.

[A]

And I do think there was something about the Charlie Kirk assassination that everyone just sort of looked up.

[B]

They're the people that Charlie Kirk made. The level of disloyalty or fear. I don't know what it is. And the criticism of you for asking the questions for someone who was like a brother to you, it's like, what the f. Were you talking about? I listen to you and I go, right on.

[A]

Interesting. We'll see.

[B]

I actually. This is interesting. Wait, hold on. Yep. I actually feel dumber now than I did two minutes ago. I'm sorry. What does Hunter Biden offer in terms of conversation? There's nothing. Here's what annoys me about. Makes Candace Owens look as if she's, like, reaching across the aisle. And, like, look at me. I talk to people of all. He's nothing. I mean, I'm sorry. Hunter Biden is nothing. He is the absolute mess. He was Roger Clinton. He's every family member that's existed in politics who's basically just problems, which, God bless, I hope he gets better. I mean, be perfect for. Validate me. But, I mean, what does him having a political conversation and giving her props for asking the real questions do except just benefit Candace Owens and make her look like she's some better person than she actually is?

[A]

That's why she's definitely doing this to see, you know, we say that she's twisting her grift. Well, yeah, this is part of her grift twist. She's trying to appeal to everyone now because now that Trump has gone after her, now she has to be like, wait, wait, wait, let me make sure I can bring other people onto my platform.

[B]

Yeah, Grif twist is what it is.

[A]

Yeah, that's what it is. You know, before she was such a die hard Trumper and now all of a sudden she criticized him and, and then no longer your bff. So I don't trust her at all. She to me is like, she's super. She's what you want. You want to talk about anti Semitic?

[B]

No, no, she's. And now she just uses the COVID of Gaza in this way that's perfect. Where it's like she's able to now deflect ever being called a Jew hater by going, oh, because when I talk about Gaza, I don't know about that. You were a Jew hater before that. It has nothing to do with that. And in fact, and I maintain this, why is it you care so much about the horrible treatment of people of color overseas but don't give a damn about the treatment of people of color in America? That's the part that makes no sense to me.

[A]

And a person that you helped elect.

[B]

Oh yeah, by the way. Exactly. I don't know what Hunter Biden was talking about saying his dad didn't greenlight the demolition of Gaza. He also did. But I mean, sure, Trump is. Is Trump worse? Absolutely. He's at his son in law. He's right. Is going to make like resorts in Gaza. Sure, that makes it different. But let's not act like Joe Biden was in here. Joe Biden, as my dad talked about on the Patreon episode, which I've been seeing. Should we at this point, like maybe in a week just upload my dad's full episode to YouTube and let it live? Because a lot of people who are not patrons, who should be patrons, especially this week, an hour and 40 minute episode with Ebro, who's gone all week. That's a gem. But I think we should maybe put that up for the people. But I think he talked about that like I think it was then. Joe Biden is like a real Zionist. Like not like he's not just doing it to please lobbies. Like he's, he's pretty far into truly, truly being on board with that. So now don't get me Wrong. Do I think he was giving a little bit more pushback than Trump gave? Sure. But he certainly was no hero on it.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting.

[B]

Let's, let's, let's hear from clip one. We have not yet played Mamdani using autotune.

[A]

What?

[B]

We will place a cap on the most out of control cost that everyday New Yorkers deal with.

[A]

Oh my go say prices.

[B]

We will free our city from the scourge of barefoot people who bring those

[A]

little tree slack lines to the park.

[B]

We will make it illegal for app companies to take a picture of you holding dumplings at 1am while wearing your nastiest sweatpants. And we will ban the New York Times from making every single recipe beanie crispy.

[A]

What is, what is happening?

[B]

Crackly or golly? And then we'll ban them from using the passive voice in their headlines. I, I, I, I don't, I, I, I don't understand. What's the context of the Inner Circle thing? What event is that? Is that like his, Was that an event with his people, the Inner Circle? I don't even have context on that. I'll tell you right now. Ebro Bank Rosenberg. Don't hate that. Some of the best auto tune we've ever heard.

[A]

It's just random. I'm like, where's this from?

[B]

Okay, I think, I think the Inner Circle event is a thing New York City mayors do. And he was like, kind of having fun. It's a thing for, it's, oh, it's like a parody musical thing. Here it is.

[A]

Oh, okay. Okay, okay. Is that, that's okay.

[B]

So it was the annual Inner Circle show at the Z Feld Ballroom in midtown. And it's like a time when him and the media kind of like go back and forth. It's intentionally goofy.

[A]

Yes, yes, yes.

[B]

It's a musical sketch show and it's been put on by the city's press Corps since 1923.

[A]

Yes, yes, yes.

[B]

So he's just having fun. Some of those jokes are very inside baseball if you don't like know New Yorky stuff.

[A]

Uh huh. But yeah, Ebro and I were a part of this once.

[B]

Oh yeah. What was the deal with that again?

[A]

During de Blasio's term, we did like a skit of him coming onto the show. It was like a whole thing. It was funny.

[B]

Didn't you like have to go there and like rehearse at some point or something?

[A]

Yeah, yes. We didn't. We made like a fake studio because at the time de Blasio would come to our show very often.

[B]

Look, there's no question. I don't know about how good he was as an actual mayor, but in terms of good to us, no one's ever surpassing de Blasio.

[A]

Right? And I always say the one thing that I did respect about him so much, he would comment, he would stand in the flames, because it's not like we were kissing his ass. We were grilling him on things and he would be there to answer.

[B]

Well, no. And even when things were really bad and you might not think you'd want to, like, make a public appearance, he was down to do it.

[A]

Yeah, he did. But, yeah, he just took me back right now. We were definitely part of this at one point.

[B]

844 ELR ELR 3. Whatever topic you want to bring to the table, hit us with it. Mom, Donnie, let's play. Let's go to slides on number three here. Mom Donnie. Investing money into the libraries. Laura Stiles. I know, I know you love this. Right up your alley. Mamdani putting his money where his mouth is.

[A]

Let's go. Libraries and parks. Thank you. Permanent funding for New York City libraries and parks. This is major.

[B]

More than $31 million annually for the city library system and additional long term support for parks and public programs. This is literally completely counter. Excuse me. To what the federal government is doing. Yes, this is literally investing in the kind of things that you should.

[A]

Yeah, it's so funny because I saw some of these comments like, who goes to the library still? Maybe you should, you idiots. Like, the libraries are incredible. Not only do they have free programming for families, but, like, during the winter, it saves so many people. Because anyone who's a parent knows you try to take your kid to like, I don't know, like an. Take a class, an art class. Instant $55. Imagine for one hour by. Oh, no, no, not even an hour. 45 minutes. Right, 45 minutes.

[B]

Whereas the library could give you actual stuff that your kids can do for free.

[A]

And, like, hours and hours of amazing programming. You can go do so many things at the library. People are there to help you. So that's why I love the library, because the children's programming is fantastic. And then you go up in there, you see a lot of students just needing a quiet place to, like, work. One of my girls is like, her house is chaotic. She doesn't have her own room. So she's like, I go to the library to lock in and do my work.

[B]

The fact that it feels like you have to even explain why a library Is good. Makes me angry.

[A]

It's right. Right.

[B]

Why are there people out there who don't understand why a library is good?

[A]

Hello. And then when it comes to the parks, our parks deserve to be clean. That's why we need this clean parks. Guys, you remember back in the day where there's needles everywhere and just trash. We do not want that.

[B]

No. So you're talking about, number one, library is a place where people can go and learn and be smarter and be in a healthy environment. And then parks again, literally, to get you in a healthier, better environment. On the opposite of that. Let's go to number 21, Bascom, and check in with Trump and the Insurrectionist Fund that has now been set up to give money to the January 6ers.

[A]

Guys, what is happening with this?

[B]

These are American heroes, apparently, who deserve to get everything back that they may have lost.

[A]

24.

[B]

24. It's at 21. The Justice Department has this new fund

[A]

that was announced today, $1.7 billion. Why should taxpayers pay for the January.

[B]

Well, it's been very well received. I have to tell you, I know very little about it. I wasn't involved in. In the whole creation of it and the negotiation. But this is reimbursing people that were horribly treated. Horribly treated. It's anti weaponization. They've been weaponized. They've been, in some cases, imprisoned wrongly. They paid legal fees that they didn't have. They've gone bankrupt. Their lives have been destroyed, and they turn out to be right. I mean, it was a terrible period of time in the history of our country, and they worked on it. I know the Justice Department, it's really been working on it very hard. There's been numerous other occasions over the years where things like this have been done, but these were people that were weaponized and really treated brutally by a system that was so corrupt, with corrupt people running it, and they're getting reimbursed for their legal fees and the other things that they had to suffer.

[A]

Bro, this is craziness.

[B]

This is the. This is the. The January 6th thing is the ultimate playing in our face.

[A]

Yeah, but you know why this is dangerous? Because this is allowing the rest of the cycles. They're like, yes, it's okay to do this. It's almost like making it okay to do it again.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Because there are no real consequences.

[B]

No, no. It means it is okay. No, no. We think you were right and you've been wronged. So if. If. That's a great point, Laura. So if we're now, justifying it and saying you were wrong by how they treated you, doesn't that mean if they ever try to get us out of here again, you should do it again? Now, granted, I know this may be wishful thinking. I think Trump has lost some of his craziest, most ardent people over some of the things that he's done. But there'd still be some there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who would show up. They'd put on their Viking helmet, of course. A $1.776 billion slush fund that can be used to pay Trump allies who claim they've been wrongfully targeted by the Biden administration's weaponization, including the January 6th insurrectionists. Yeah.

[A]

Somebody in the chat, shout out to the chat, they were like, lizzie says they're gonna do worse. I agree with you, Lizzie. I feel the same. This is beyond, man. Like, the corruption is in our face, but just really see when you. It just pisses me off so bad. Billion dollars. Do you. We just want health care. Affordable health care. We just want healthy food.

[B]

Louie was trying to say something. What I was gonna say. And remember, there's a midterm election coming up that the Democrats are projected to win. Even with all the gerrymandering, what's gonna happen there when they say this election is also right? So the voting in Pennsylvania today. Yes, it's in the super chat. All right, let's look in the super chat real quick. By the way, I hadn't looked at my phone after I said that. Natalie said I looked good. I looked back, and she said, laura looks better in the seat. Calm down.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

She. By the way, Natalie, by the way, I was going to this. I just want you to know, Natalie, this seat was for Laura. Laura wasn't here. I had to do what I had to do.

[A]

I was late. Okay, I agree.

[B]

Laura's hot in the seat. All right, here we go. S. Bruno says vote today in pa. Thank you, S. Bruno. Madeline Gibbs says. Love you guys. Much success with the podcast. Add this to the 99 cents, then a few 99 cents and dollars and $1.99. Akeem Broderick. We love Hakeem Broderick. Said these same fools will show up to buy a $3,000 watch but won't vote.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Nice facts. That would be great to poll people.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You have five days to be online. Did you vote in the last election? Are you planning to vote on the next one? Would be a great question, because my guess is it would be a bad number.

[A]

Do you think that people will take local elections more seriously. Do you think people now, with all the chaos that's happening in our country, that they're gonna be like, you know what? This time I'm gonna vote?

[B]

I. I don't know. I don't know.

[A]

It's sad that we don't know. I know, because I don't feel that energy, guys. I don't feel it. I do see youth movements that make me happy, but I just don't know if, like some of the older folks, you know, they're so stuck in their ways. They believe every AI video is real.

[B]

And some of them don't think anything that bad is happening.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like what's bad? I mean, everything's fine.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Because it hasn't hit there for them. It will literally take it becoming like we were in Nazi Germany for them to actually think anything's going on.

[A]

And it could be Nazi Germany. As long as it doesn't affect them.

[B]

Well, that too, they're okay with it. Remember, there are people okay in Nazi Germany.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

First Union TV also reminded me Drake has a song with Fonte. Think good thoughts. No, I know. There was a really old Drake mixtape record with Fonte. People were waiting, I think, for there to be like a once he was big. Was there going to. Because that record at the time that that happened. And I don't. I don't think I'm wrong here if you can look it up, Louie, but I'm pretty sure that's an old ass record. And at that time, it was Fonte looking out for Drake. The question was, would Drake ever going to turn around once he was a huge star and give the platform to someone? Because he always credited little brother so much with his sound.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And finding his voice. So the dope thing is when you see people who are that big turn around and be like, y' all want to put this person on a record and expose them to more people. Like, don't get me wrong, it's dope when Drake jumps on with people who are part of a hot movement. But when you jump on with one of these hot movements, while it's look. While it's certainly a cool look for the artist, make no mistake, Drake has an immediate opportunity to gain from that association. When you put on an old school artist to show them love, it's only going one direction. Like you're doing it to show them love. They don't have a movement that's hot at that moment. You're not going to gain a lot of numbers from it. It's you doing lifting someone else up. That. That's sort of the difference between as great a look as it was for the Migos when Drake jumps on Versace. Drake. Drake's ear was to the street, and he knew that him doing that made him super hot in certain streets. Comeback season, so. So, yeah, it was literally the beginning. Fonte jumping on comeback season was a look for Drake. That was. That wasn't reverse. Yeah. At that time, when comeback season was made and when the song and when the song came out was before that mixtape actually was released. Oh, he came out pre comeback season. Right. So he was literally, for all intents and purposes, unless you're some hardcore Toronto Drake sycophant, For all intents and purposes, he was no one. Yeah. On a national level, he was no one. Yeah. Yeah. He was still. He was. That's when Cyph was meeting and be like, what? Bring me a tape, bro. I'll check it out. Unless you watch the grassy. Don't disrespect. Yo. So you watched Degrassi after. Oh, later you went back, you were like, I'm gonna do the work.

[A]

Dig in the crate.

[B]

How. How was Degrassi as a show basket? It was pretty good. Yeah. I mean, listen, you have zero credibility, but I've never. All right, it's time for the rundown, folks.

[A]

Okay. I thought this was cute. We can just play a piece of it or a song, cuz it's a little long. But Lotto shared a very intimate video. It was like a montage of, you know, cuz Lotto is very pregnant right now, and these are just beautiful, intimate moments with her loved ones that I thought it was so sweet. Check this out. That's your sister on T training. That's cute.

[B]

It doesn't feel real, does it?

[A]

I'm pregnant. I was already thinking about naming my album Big Mama, and then I found out about you, and it just. Everything fell into place.

[B]

And it's so crazy because I thought

[A]

this was going to hinder me. Like, I was worried about making this album sober and being tired and just exhausted as my body went through all these changes.

[B]

Get out my job.

[A]

You know how I rock.

[B]

It's a boy.

[A]

It's the NBA player. 21 savages in the video. 37 weeks today basically went down with me. 37.

[B]

37.

[A]

Yeah. And it's ending day now. I'm so ready to meet my baby.

[B]

I'm never gonna leave when my baby get here. Like I need a million dollars to show Cause I don't want to leave the house.

[A]

This will probably be the last video I make.

[B]

Marvel Television's Wonder man, an eight episode series now streaming on Disney. A superhero remake. Not exactly what we'd expect from an Oscar winning director. Action. Simon Williams auditioned for Wonder Man. I'm gonna need you to sign this. Assuming you don't have superpowers.

[A]

I'll never work again.

[B]

If anyone found out.

[A]

My lips are sealed.

[B]

Marvel Television's Wonder man all eight episodes now streaming only on Disney plus. So the album is dropping next Friday.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And the baby? Any second.

[A]

I think the baby dropped. I heard the. I heard the. Them in the hospital. I think that's what it meant.

[B]

It's time. The street's saying that the baby's dropped.

[A]

Baby is here.

[B]

No official word on whether the baby. What? On the baby's name or information?

[A]

No, no, no. I just thought it was sweet, you know.

[B]

That is sweet.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's a good. That's a nice little. Nice little promo. Sweet little promo for the Big Mama album.

[A]

Right, right, right. Okay. In other news, Luigi Mangioni.

[B]

Luigi Mangion.

[A]

I remember to everyone, you know, the man who accused of killing the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. He scored a partial win in court after the judge ruled that some of the evidence tied to his arrest could not be used in the trial. So they basically are saying, like, they're not. The decision stems around how police handled the search of his backpack at the time of the arrest in Pennsylvania. And the judge determined that certain items were unlawfully obtained and they have to be excluded. So the blocked evidence includes cell phones, passport, wallet, and other materials recovered during the warrant search. So, yeah, I mean, obviously it wasn't a complete loss for the prosecutors. It's still going on. But you know, everyone was saying, like, man, this is a big one because do you remember the video of when they. They found him in the McDonald's?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you remember that video? Yeah. So I guess the search that took place like around that time.

[B]

This is one of the weird things about like, legal stuff, like, is there any conversation to be had here? Don't we all know that he killed a guy?

[A]

Allegedly. He pled not guilty.

[B]

But he pled not guilty.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Still gotta fight in court.

[A]

Yeah, you gotta go through it.

[B]

This is the old Eddie Murphy shaggy defense.

[A]

Uh huh.

[B]

Wasn't me.

[A]

Yo, bro. But it's so crazy that the fan base he has. Do you know people put tons of money on his books?

[B]

Yeah, I know. And I'm not saying that I don't like, understand conceptually why people are. But, like, do people, when they're doing this, realize that, like, when movies get made about this stuff historically, and then you see the people who, like, fall in love with the psycho and they show up to the jail, and kids look at parents and go, do people really do stuff like that? And you're like, yeah, yeah. Yes, son. There are real morons out there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do they realize that's them right now?

[A]

Some people are obsessed with him, like, fighting the system. Right. Like, fighting back. Then there's, like, women who are just, like, in love with him, who are like, he has crazy, like, fan base. Yep.

[B]

I just have to say, a lot of y' all are bad parents. I know I'm new to this. I know I'm new to this, and I hope I get it right. But, like, if you raised your kid and now they're like, 22, and she's like, daddy, I'm just in love with Mangioni.

[A]

I know. I know.

[B]

What did you do? What kind of. What in the bad parenting did you do?

[A]

I know.

[B]

I'm not like. I understand that we're in a society, you know, there's a way that we could do things. It's called organizing and voting, not walking up and killing CEOs.

[A]

Yeah, that.

[B]

See, he. That one guy is not the reason everyone's health care is in shambles. That's not how it works, though.

[A]

They replace part of the problem, but

[B]

they replaced him with another person to do the job. You just killed someone's dad.

[A]

Yeah, like that.

[B]

They're putting in another CEO to do

[A]

the job, the same thing that he was doing.

[B]

That's. Nothing's changing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, all you did was hype up a bunch of psychos, go out and vote and organize and elect people like Bernie Sanders and AOC and people who want to fix health care killing. We're not seeing this clearly. No.

[A]

No.

[B]

At all.

[A]

But let's not. Listen. People who are fans of, like, psychopaths is not a new thing.

[B]

No, it's always been a thing.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

And I guess relative to some of the other psychos, like mass murderers.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And I guess there are other people who are even worse. Yeah. So if you're. If your kid is in love with Mangioni, just know it could have been worse really quickly.

[A]

So I really appreciated you giving me a little story when watching the Testaments. Isn't it so good?

[B]

So good.

[A]

The Testaments are so good, guys. If you are a Handmaid's Tale fan. The Testaments is fire, bro.

[B]

No, it's gotten better and better.

[A]

Every episode is better.

[B]

Yeah. It's. If you. If you're looking for a show and you don't mind it being dark and. Yeah. Particularly if you like Handmaid's Tale.

[A]

It is.

[B]

It is so fire.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Someone wrote. Yeah. And Chase Infinity is awesome. Someone just wrote. Meh. Ain't crying over a dead CEO. Yo, do you realize how generic a thing that is to say? What does that mean? Any CEO. So the CEO of any company. You're not. They. They. They don't deserve to live because they have that job. Because if you were in a career where you worked in whatever the field was and you kept moving up to the point where they made you CEO, you would turn it down and go, nah, I don't wanna make this money. I'm not defending the CEO. Frankly, I know nothing about him except that he's about to say that.

[A]

Right, right, Right. It's just that you shouldn't murder people.

[B]

That's not.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

So let me get this right. People don't wanna participate in the democratic system that we have so we could elect people who can make our country good. They don't wanna do that. But they want to sit around and celebrate when people get murked who do the job that they're allowed to do in this psycho country that we have put together.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

People are doing the jobs they're allowed and supposed to do. If you want better people to set the rules, elect better people.

[A]

Yeah. And it's just like, I understand people's frustrations because it's horrible. What's happening in our country is horrible. But you can't just go around killing people, man. That's just not the answer.

[B]

It's not, brother. But there's so many. That particular CEO, of all the people to get merked that you would want to see. He was really number one on your list. Y' all didn't even know who he was till the day before. Think about how many other worse people there are.

[A]

I wonder if there was something personal tied to him, like if there was something else that we don't know about. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Maybe there's a reason why he targeted him. We don't know. I guess we're gonna wait for that. You think that trial is gonna be televised?

[B]

It might be.

[A]

It's so big. It might be. Right? Yeah.

[B]

All right. Now we do have to talk about what happened in San Diego at this mosque shooting yesterday.

[A]

What happened?

[B]

So let me. Let me. Let me try to pull up the exact details.

[A]

You have the video.

[B]

All right, thank you, Bascom. There is no further threat. Both suspects in this case are deceased. All of the kids are safe. We have our two suspects that are deceased. We have three victims at the Islamic center. All three are adults, for a total of five people that are deceased. We are considering this a hate crime until it's not.

[A]

This is horrible, horrible, horrible. Oh, my God, those people. Poor people. My heart goes out to them.

[B]

So, yeah, apparently this is a hate crime where people showed up at a mosque in San Diego, as you just heard, open fire. Multiple people dead, including the shooters were 17 and 18 years old.

[A]

What?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's so sad, man. Yo, you know, I keep. I. If you're. If you've been listening that. I've been all. I've been listening to that podcast about incels. Like, yo, guys, it's a real problem with the youth. Like, if you're a parent and you got a 15 year old, a 13 year old, I mean, just kids, period. You should. You need to see what they're consuming. These kids are being radicalized online. The type of stories I've heard, Rosenberg. These people think that their kids are just in the room playing whatever game they thought they were playing or doing their homework. No, they're in these crazy chat rooms and discord about, like, hating women, maybe self harm. Like, it gets dark. And it all started with kids looking for, like, gym routines online. So they start finding these gym bros, and then the gym bros become the

[B]

podcast bros, and the podcast bros send them to them more.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

And it's. It's off and off and off.

[A]

And then. Yeah, it is a problem. It's bigger than people realize.

[B]

Yeah. On a super small level. My brother was telling me the day that there's a whole thing going on AI slop kids. Videos that are moving around.

[A]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[B]

Kids are watching this. AI slop. Yeah, that. Because it's AI. Things are just wrong.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, like, they're teaching kids wrong colors, wrong numbers, wrong like. So the kids are literally. And then parents are realizing that they're kids, and by that point their brain's already confused. They're like, they've been taught the wrong way, these initial things. That's a very small example. We have to pay attention to what we are consuming via our phone, computers.

[A]

And it's. And it's getting harder and harder because regular adults that are not in the Internet or not Internet savvy, they believe every video they see because they look so Damn good. They look real.

[B]

Yeah. Some of them actually look like. You can't even immediately distinct or be clear that it's an AI video.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Real quick, guys. Also, in regards to the San Diego shooting at that mosque, the absolute monster that is Laura Loomer posted. She's the right wing lunatic, psychopath, pro Israel Islamophobe maniac who's run for office. She used to be very close with Trump. She still is close to Trump, but she wrote, in light of the Islamic center shooting today, I think it's time to make sure Muslims are safe. The best way to ensure their safety is for our DHS Secretary, Mark Wayne. Muslim Senator Mullen, to deport every Muslim in America back to the Middle east where they can live fully in Islamic societies and blast their call to prayer without triggering Americans into psychosis as a side effect of having their non Islamic habits disrupted by invasive species. Let's make sure Muslims are safe. Send them back to the Middle east where there's a mosque on every corner.

[A]

She's disgusting, bro. Disgusting.

[B]

I just want to say, as a. As a Jew, we. I speak on behalf of all moral Jews. We disavow this Islamophobe monster. She should be in jail on a day like today. These things that she has said to incite people are dangerous and violent. And not only that, I would blatantly ask the powers that be who have associated with her whether they will condemn her saying things like this outright disgusting, aggressive, violent, xenophobia and racism. Will they condemn it or will they still say, well, Laura Loomer, she can be a very nice person because they still associate with her. Of course, like, this is normal.

[A]

Freedom of speech. That's what they're gonna say.

[B]

And she lost an election, by the way, guys. Pretty close. Like, she's competed in multiple elections and come pretty close. Someone who says stuff like this out loud, does she not know that there's Americans disgusting. Does she not. Does she not know that there are Americans that are. I don't know.

[A]

She doesn't care.

[B]

Where would I go? Like, I don't speak Arabic like that.

[A]

But she doesn't care. It's because you're Muslim. She doesn't want you here. That's how deep the hate in her heart is.

[B]

I don't understand. I don't understand how people like this get like it. It is such. It is so shameful. Like, as someone whose mother was born in a displaced person's camp after the Holocaust, when I heard Jews take the hate literally, Nazi, like, hate, and put it towards another group. It, like, it literally crushes my heart every time I'm like, how could you disrespect? And these people use. They will turn around and use the Holocaust as if it's something that they were affected by. You don't care about the death of Jews. You know, you cannot have cared about what happened in the Holocaust and treat another religion that way. You can't.

[A]

You can't.

[B]

You're lying when you say you can't care. You're just using it as a way to weaponize it. You don't care. You don't care. You would do the same thing if you happen to have not been Jewish. Something else. You would have wanted the Jews to go in the ovens. There's either you either believe in freedom of religion and people being free to worship how they want, or you don't. Full stop.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There's crazy Jews, crazy Muslims, crazy Christians, and there's great versions. All those people.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

I don't understand why this is so hard to grasp.

[A]

And I don't understand, to your point, why nobody. Nobody comes after her like the right. They just continue to prop her up, and they're like, yep, she was the brave one to say it. You know what I mean? They support.

[B]

They follow her online.

[A]

Follow her.

[B]

They like her stuff.

[A]

Mm. They buy what she's selling. It's disgusting, man. It's disgusting.

[B]

All right. You know, we haven't done this in several days. I think we'd be remiss if we didn't give everybody a little. Rosenberg. Laura, you know, you are a beautiful queen. Ebro. Don't ever play yourself. You're not a guru.

[A]

Ah, yes. TheOriginalGurusMail.com the Original GurusMail.com. where the gurus unite to shine the light. Let me burn the sage. Rosenberg. Who's out there? Who's listening to us? Who needs us? Who's writing?

[B]

Where'd it go? All right, here it is. The gurus of life. The original gurus. Gmail.com. the original gurus. Gmail.Com. your destination for clarity. And don't forget. While we're at it, guys, I. I need to collect emails for my initial episodes that I'm recording of. Validate me.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

So if you have had struggles with validation addiction, if you have had struggled with sex addiction, addicted to being on apps, just. You can't stop going on dates. You're a serial cheater. What? Whatever it is, maybe you're just an addict who struggles because you weren't validated in other Ways you, whatever it is Your addiction story validatemeshowmail.com Send your email and tell tell me your story. If you're willing to share it, we'd love to talk to you on Validate Me.

[A]

I love this, especially because you're inviting the El army to join you first.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

All right. Dear Gurus, I'm 46 and I've left my home and I left my hometown town at 18. Oh, it sounds familiar. Lord Styles. Despite living just a few hours away and maintaining what I thought was a close relationship with my mom mother I've rarely visited. The reason is Stark. In 28 years, my mother has never once invited me or my children into her home. My sister, who also lives in my hometown, treats me the exact same way. I have never been invited into her home either. Not for a dinner or a 30 minute chat. Initial question Are you a vampire? Are they protecting their family because you are a vampire? My mother has a history of hoarding and lives with an awkward partner. But it's the same environment I grew up in, so being precious about those things now seems unlikely. Ultimately, it seems she simply let her antisocial behavior get in the way of even really seeing her grandchildren. For years I hosted them both graciously at my house until I realized the effort was entirely one sided. I grew up thinking this dynamic was normal, but now my own kids are old enough to point out how bizarre it is. Now my mother is experiencing some mental decline, possible dementia. So the window for any breakthrough or closure has officially closed. I want to resolve this within myself so I can help my kids make sense of this non existent relationship without just telling them she wasn't interested. Do I need therapy to untangle this or how do I move forward on my own? Lady, have you not done therapy?

[A]

Yeah, that's the first thing you should

[B]

do with what you're saying.

[A]

This is heavy. There's layers to it, man. You grew up in a very traumatizing environment and you've continued, but it's still there. Everything is still. The baggage is there.

[B]

I'm so. I mean, first of all, you did a pretty good job unpacking it considering you haven't done any therapy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And just to be clear, and this is one thing I'll definitely talk about on Validate me Therapy. We throw that word around. It's not some cure, all right?

[A]

No, no, no. Not yet.

[B]

We're just saying it's the beginning of a conversation. Do you want to start? Yes. But I'll also give you some advice and I actually dealt with this with a family member recently, not remotely to this extent, but there was a situation that occurred in our family in which there was hurt between people, and it really seemed like an apology was necessary. The apology never came, but a moment of clear, sincere tenderness and emotion came, and I walked away from it going, I think that's the best that they're capable of. You know what I'm saying? If I sit around going, no, I want them to come to me and issue a formal apology for how they hurt me, it's not coming. They don't. And we can stand on principle and go, well, they should. Yeah, well, maybe they should. But do you want to have the relationship or not? And what are they capable of? So what I would say is, if you already. She said in the message her mom's weird, antisocial behavior has led to this. You are in some ways. And you can tell me if you disagree. Laura. Laura's more apt to take the other side of man f this family. But what I'm saying is, if you're aware that your mom is somewhat crazy. She's a hoarder with an awkward partner who doesn't invite you to her house, and now the sister is like that, too, and she lives nearer to the mom. Let's not even deal with her. Let's focus on your mom.

[A]

Right. Yeah.

[B]

You know the answer. And she used to come visit you when you would invite her. And then you're like, well, it's not being reciprocated, so I'm gonna stop. Well, I'm just being honest with you. The answer to me, Laura, doesn't sound like your mom doesn't want to see you. It sounds like she wants to see you in the way she's capable of seeing you, which is visiting you. So if you want to be upset that she has this weird psychosis, you have every right to be upset.

[A]

Mm.

[B]

I don't know what the upside is gonna be for you or your kid. Your kids are old enough. So now you can say to her, well, your mom's weird, Grandma. We love her, but Grandma's weird. So we just invite her to come see us here.

[A]

Right? Right. Right. Oh, she's not comfortable with the state of her home. You could be honest with your kids. Yeah.

[B]

You can say it hurts you, too. I wish.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I wish she would, but all I know is you said she. Now she's in mental decline.

[A]

That's what I was going.

[B]

And she didn't add, Laura, that there's, like, she's been Abusive or hurtful or nasty or like, the relationship's bad overall, it's this very specific. She doesn't want us in our. In her home.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Stop storytelling about what that is. And if, you know, she loves you and she's still willing to visit you yo respectfully f her weird, hoarded, crowded home. She's your mom. You want to see her, figure out another way to see her. You're not going to change her.

[A]

But now, you know, it's a different situation because her mom's not really all the way there anymore.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So she's. I'm assuming she's stuck in her home because if she has dementia, they usually keep you.

[B]

Well, she said it's early. Early onset dementia. I don't know if that means, like, is she not traveling anywhere? Can her partner still drive her places?

[A]

Right, right, right, right, right.

[B]

Is there a way to around that?

[A]

Listen, and this is completely up to you. I'm not telling you what to do. But consider this. Consider inviting her over once again, especially because you know that her mental health is declining. You know, her health is not all the way there and she can say no, or her partner could say no. Just, you know, it could happen. But I think you should be honest with your children if they're old enough. And you have to decide if you're okay with a not seeing her ever again because you're gonna have to live with that for the rest of your life. Do you understand what I'm saying? Like, if you decide, I'm just gonna cut her off and I'm not going to engage anymore. It's something you have to be okay with for the rest of your life because there's been so many instances where people are like, man, I should have said goodbye.

[B]

And don't. And don't you want the example for your kids to be you do whatever you need to do to have a relationship with mom and dad.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It may not be ideal. She's not harming you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She just was being weird.

[A]

I'm taking. Listen, I'm. By the letter that you wrote to us, I didn't hear any abuse.

[B]

Well, no, you can't leave that. Yeah, that would have been a major thing to leave out. All you said was that you moved away and she always visited you. But when you and your family, she's never invited you to come to her house. But you also recognize she's clearly got kind of a weird thing going on. So I think you're understandably, But I think you're hanging on to this one grievance.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I don't know if I see a lot of upside to you hanging on to that grievance.

[A]

And that's why I do think that you should try some therapy. Just maybe you can sort through your emotions and make a better decision for you. I always say, look, what's beautiful about therapy is that you're talking to somebody that's, you know, that's just listening to you for the issues. If you talk to your friends, they're always biased. They love you. They're gonna tell you what you wanna hear. So that's the beauty of therapy. And I do think you should consider it to help you navigate through these choices. But it's ultimately up to you, man. That's your mom. And whatever choice you make, you have to be okay with that in your heart. So I hope it helps. So say the gurus sucks.

[B]

See if someone wrote yo, Opal Beat said they should have left the guru segment at Hot Dang. Yeah. What the.

[A]

Opal, I got mad people who love the guru. That's why we brought it.

[B]

People love the gurus. Let me see if there's any super chats on the way out the door here. I don't want to disrespect chat.

[A]

You guys mess with the gurus. Well, we don't do them. People are like, why not?

[B]

We got cool. And Omar said, zen, Zen, Zen, Zen, Zen.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Con artistic said, I know I'm late and the topics change, but just wanted to shout out the Jew convo on your interview with Drake. Lord. Well, hit that. Like, guys, the Jew convo on your interview. Oh, when me and Drake back in the day talk Jewish stuff. Yeah, that was classic, bro. Of course, people have spun that because the world is, you know, got a lot of things to say about seeing a couple Jews talk about their Jewish background. Listen, Drake has a real. He has a. Drake is really a mixed kid. For real. He really is, like, black and Christian and white and Jewish. It's all in there. Yeah, it's very much all in there.

[A]

Sorry, I'm looking at the chat. Everyone saying how much they love the gurus. Guru stays.

[B]

There you go. JSC says 186 says. Good morning, team. This is Stephen, chief clip economist.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I appreciate all you do. And, man, they were angry. On the clip I posted yesterday on your opinion about Drake not having a classic. Keep it up. Lol. Yeah, I don't. That's just me. I'm sorry. But, man. But that man knew that his company was inadvertently murdering people by denying proper health care. I don't feel no sympathy for him. All right, Ed, that's fine. That's your choice. And you're in the super chat, so you certainly paid for that choice. Yeah, I'm just saying. The CEO will be replaced by another CEO whose job is to make sure the company makes money. The company's entire principle is based on people being sick and not cared for, because that's the American health care system. If you want the health care system to change, we need new people to be elected. Killing the yo. It's. It's honestly barely different than killing the pharmacist. Yeah, like you're killing someone who's way late in the food chain. They're just there to make sure the dividends. Clicking clack. He's not there. Gonna change the business, bro.

[A]

I can't believe we're discussing why you shouldn't murder people.

[B]

You shouldn't murder people. That's today's theme. To take away from this, today's elr. Don't murder people. Laura, what's our email?

[A]

Rosenberg Gmail.

[B]

Ebro Laura Rosenberg gmail.com. send your freedom Fridays right now. Send your voice notes, your videos. Send them all to us right now, and we'll catch you guys tomorrow.

[A]

Bye, guys.

[B]

Play this again on the way out.

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Hit that, like button.

[B]

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