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Laura Styles
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Ebro Darden
Just don't call it a podcast. The Ebro Laura Rosenberg Show. I've been doing this thing the last couple of days. I walk in the room at, like, one minute before we about to start the show. I want to sit down. I want to go right into the show. Hit me with the button. Congratulations. You played yourself. Cause it still takes us three minutes to get. What are y' all doing? Why we can't just start the show?
Laura Styles
I think we were ready.
Ebro Darden
No, Laura, stop. Li Yo, I'm gonna tell y' all when Rosenberg get back. We gonna stop lying for people, man. It's damn near June. It's June. It's. It's June today, though.
Laura Styles
I was definitely sending videos that I wanted in last minute.
Ebro Darden
Don't we have a cutoff time? It's like 7:40.
Laura Styles
Am I violated?
Ebro Darden
Laura. Laura wants about ticks today, y'. All.
Laura Styles
Cuz I was.
Ebro Darden
She got. She. She finally decided to go outside in her life, and now she want to talk about something that's been outside. If you've been outside in the summertime, spring and summer in the fall, well, I think it's mostly spring and summer ticks now. There's a whole tick epidemic. And by the way, if. If you live upstate New York or you live out in Connecticut or you go to Martha's Vineyard, I think even the Hamptons, too. Any of these, you know, our. Even Staten Island. This ticks. Jersey everywhere. If you're out in these parks hiking, you know about the ticks. And so Laura wants to talk about tics today.
Laura Styles
Okay, first of all, I've been really into this because one of my. One of my friends has been dealing with all these issues, and she was like, what's wrong with me? And she finally found out she has Lyme disease. And that's it. You have it forever.
Ebro Darden
I mean, listen, you have. So there's. There's. We'll get into it, but there's. There's different tics. But the one tick that's, you know, really moving around or the tick, the popular tick, the one that everybody got is popping is the one that comes from. I think it's called the Lone Star tick. It's got a white dot on the back, but at any rate, it carries some. Some sort of enzyme that if you get bitten by it, it can make you allergic to meat and dairy.
Laura Styles
Yes.
Ebro Darden
Or hooved animals, really is the way it goes. It's like, whatever it is, but. So we'll get into tick tock. Not tick tock, tick tock with Laura Styles.
Rashad
Sounds like a future song.
Ebro Darden
8, 4, 4, ELR ELR. 3. What's the big talk on the Internet, King Lou? What are they saying out here? Talk about the Jay Z. Jay Z freestyle.
Rashad
Yep. You know, that got the algorithm going
Ebro Darden
that's got them popping. Where are they at now? In the Jay Z conversation I saw Rory and Mal have been giving their updates of what took place at the. What is it, the roots picnic. Yep.
Rashad
Especially after the rumors from, I think Tasha Case saying that they got kicked out and everything like that. So they're responding to that first, and
Ebro Darden
then they're just saying, now, wait, time out. You think that look that's supposed. That looks good on camera to y'? All? Were y' all showing Lou sitting in the dark? Rasan? I know that looks dope to y'.
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Laura Styles
That's what I was like, nah, we can't do it.
Ebro Darden
That was a dope look. Rasan. I need. I need. I got. I need questions.
Laura Styles
It's like a glare.
Ebro Darden
What is that? What is that? Are you afraid of the dark? It's a little behind the scenes that you can. That looks good on. I need to know y' all get in the chat. Does that look good to y'?
Rashad
All?
Laura Styles
Teeth and glasses. That's all you see.
Ebro Darden
That's not fire, bro. I think. I think it's brighter on my screen than it is. I need to know what they're saying on your screen. See what they saying in the Internet, cuz, that did not look dope on my screen.
Rashad
Everybody's like, brew was losing the dungeon.
Ebro Darden
Why they got. Yo, and why are you showing that? It's not even. That's like a side of the room that we don't want to show on purpose, bro.
Laura Styles
Like, who made that decision meanwhile at the dungeon?
Ebro Darden
Yo, who's making decisions around here for. For production?
Laura Styles
Yo, this is fun.
Ebro Darden
Yo. Rasanj is just loose. He thinks that's a good camera angle. Nobody. Did somebody ask you for that? Rasan people's been asking for behind the scenes. I told them. Nah, bro, I need to. Griff, do something, man. You're the executive producer. Say something to somebody.
Laura Styles
The chat said, put your lighters up.
Ebro Darden
Get l A lantern. Yo, man, what is this?
Laura Styles
Grim B.K. you had jokes. Grimby K gave us 199 to say, someone get Louis lantern.
Ebro Darden
Yo, no matter how hard I try to make this look like an established show, these individuals work against me in every way, shape or form to continue to want to be low budget. No big deal, yo. That's all they want to do is just be low budget for the rest of their days. No matter how hard we try. No matter how hard we try to make it look like we have a high end production here. Go Rahsaan. Making decisions to just show Lou sitting at a stool in the dark.
Laura Styles
Oh, God.
Rashad
And by the way, for whoever footy tick, my feet do touch the ground.
Ebro Darden
Come on. Why they doing that?
Laura Styles
Come on, man.
Ebro Darden
Anyway, all right, let's hit. Let's look at clip number 14 there. Ron Basking.
Laura Styles
All right, all right, all right.
Ebro Darden
That's what you get for allowing Laura Styles to send in late clips.
Laura Styles
The Tasha K. Thing was interesting because she just straight up lied, right?
Ebro Darden
She was just like, according to everybody.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah. She just accused them. Rory and Malik getting kicked out of this section by Jay Z.
Ebro Darden
Before you hit that Rashad, you guys said, Tasha K. That was the name y' all use. Isn't there history tied to her?
Laura Styles
Yes, yes, yes.
Ebro Darden
So why are we. Why are we spiraling about something that she said as if it's valid?
Laura Styles
Well, because the Internet went with it and ran with it and everybody.
Ebro Darden
The Internet ran with it. Like, sometimes you just gotta stop yourself before you get wrapped up.
Rashad
I think the bigger question is, how is she still allowed to do this, especially after.
Ebro Darden
Allowed to do what? Tell a lie about Rory and Maul. It's the Internet. Hit the clip, man.
Laura Styles
Let's see.
Guest or Interviewee
So I think it was halftime or something. So I look at my phone and I see text from.
Ebro Darden
From.
Guest or Interviewee
From Drake. And I'm just reading it, and I'm like. I'm like, okay, so he did. He did. Which we all said was probably going to happen.
Ebro Darden
Was that a.
Guest or Interviewee
Won't get into what our conversation was from there. He said, get your uncle. No, he didn't say that, but that.
Ebro Darden
Yo, that's so crazy. He's talking to Drake during this. I'm next to Biggs on the riser. I chose the side.
Guest or Interviewee
Oh, no, no.
Ebro Darden
But I'm with Biggs.
Guest or Interviewee
But the whole thing on the riser with us. I don't. I don't know what's. I don't know what's happening. So everything that we talking about, I don't even know what was said. So he was saying he was, you know, picking out certain things that he said.
Ebro Darden
But.
Guest or Interviewee
But the one thing that Trick said was like, yo, but what's up with the hair? That was with everybody. So now, mind you, I haven't seen a picture.
Ebro Darden
They're gonna kill. They're gonna kill Drake for that because they. Never mind.
Guest or Interviewee
No, but, no, everybody was saying, like, everybody was shot. We've never seen. And the last time we saw him, he had wicks down in the middle of his back. So it was kind of like. Like, is that a wig? Is he cosplaying right now? Is this some nwa Is this some. Is he on his Eazy E In.
Ebro Darden
In. In Drake's defense, not saying that's what
Guest or Interviewee
Drake said, but that's what the Internet was saying. Like, yo, like, nobody understood the hair first got.
Ebro Darden
Listen, debating hov's hair is the last thing Drake need to be doing with his time. Bro, we. Bro, you just have colored barrettes in
Laura Styles
your hair, B. I know, I know.
Ebro Darden
I'm saying that was just a second
Laura Styles
ago the woman who did Jay's hair came out and said it took her four days and four bottles of Sacred to get it all out.
Ebro Darden
Oh, good. Sacred promo in it.
Laura Styles
I know, I know. I like it, but yes. I'm like, come on, man. You're the last person to be talking about somebody's hair.
Ebro Darden
Like, stop it.
Laura Styles
Let's go.
Ebro Darden
But what was interesting, another interesting piece in that that I found, you know, notable was Ma was there. Drake's watching. Wherever he's watching. And Mall's not claiming. Basically. He wasn't really picking up all this on all the sublims. Or was that Rory talking? No, it was Ma. Ma was basically like, I didn't even know what was going on. Drake's texting me, right? Paying attention to what was going on. And then he jumped to talking about the hair. But, yeah. Nah. Drake, stop talking about other people's hair, B. You played yourself. Congratulations. You played yourself. Stop it. But he was paying attention. And it's game on.
Laura Styles
Of course. Of course.
Ebro Darden
I like Game on. I like this. I like the way this summer is shaping up. Y' all thought this hip hop thing was gonna get dull. I mean, and look, I ain't gonna hold y'. All. I thought Drake had. I thought Drake had the whole road to himself this summer.
Laura Styles
Surprise.
Ebro Darden
Yo. Yo. I thought he had the whole road to himself.
Laura Styles
Surprise. It's going to be.
Ebro Darden
I thought he was just going to roll out. It didn't work out like that. HOV has something to say. And then HOV is going to be at the Yankee Stadium in a couple of weeks. We got the big. I know there's a. Isn't it 30 years of reasonable doubt. Yes. Yeah, yeah.
Rashad
Reasonable doubt.
Ebro Darden
25 years of blueprint.
Laura Styles
And then I think it's like Sunday, they added is.
Rashad
It's like we still don't know exactly what that.
Laura Styles
I think it's just like, hits. Greatest hits. I'm assuming extra innings.
Ebro Darden
Extra innings. But no, I can't imagine that when HO shows up in New York City, it's just the shows. I can't imagine. That's all we're getting.
Laura Styles
I feel like. I feel like there's an album coming.
Rashad
Me too.
Laura Styles
I do. It's coming. I don't know.
Ebro Darden
You feel like album?
Laura Styles
Yes, Yes. I feel like there's an album coming. There's rumors that he's been cooking and why not? I feel like it is. But, you know, we'll see. We'll see.
Ebro Darden
There's people out here who are really excited about a Jay Z album. I'm one of them.
Laura Styles
Yeah. 444, his last one was amazing.
Ebro Darden
That's right.
Laura Styles
It was so good. So.
Guest or Analyst
Well.
Ebro Darden
And we're living in a time musically, where sampling lyrics, you know, that, that, that. That instant vintage sound that you get from a Griselda. The rock Marcies of the world. The stove got cooks. You know, you just got a Nas and premiere album six, seven months ago. We're coming off with the clips did with Pharrell.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ebro Darden
There was that last Stove Got Cooks release was a single produced by Swizz Beats.
Laura Styles
Yeah. And then all of the mass appeal drops, too, on top of it.
Ebro Darden
Yeah. And. And so put that all together in your brain, and let's imagine hov links up with the legends that he's linked up with in the past and maybe throws in an alchemist, a hit boy.
Laura Styles
Mm. I could see it. Look at Louis smiling for you.
Ebro Darden
Feel me? Like you feel like when you start thinking about what the music could actually sound like.
Laura Styles
I feel like it's coming, bro. We'll see, though. I feel like it's coming now.
Ebro Darden
Are you covering the rest of this data? You tried to bombard me with Daphne Joy talk yesterday. Laura Styles in the rundown. Is that still a top priority for you in the rundown?
Laura Styles
It's not a priority, but we're going to talk about it because it was trending yesterday. There was a lot of chatter about her. Her choice of words. Well, I'll break it down to you, and, of course, run it.
Ebro Darden
We might as well do it right now.
Laura Styles
All right, let's do it.
Ebro Darden
Well, so tell. Tell me what we're doing here. All right, I see Daphne Joy. Q A. What is this?
Laura Styles
Well, okay, so we'll jump into that story, but hit me with my song.
Ebro Darden
Oh, you want to do that? Do it in the rundown.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
Oh, I thought that wasn't in the rundown. It doesn't have to be in the rundown.
Laura Styles
So Daphne Joy is the mother of 50 Cent's son.
Ebro Darden
That's right.
Laura Styles
Right. And the crazy sex tape that leaked that everybody was talking about that. Everybody's like, where did this come from?
Ebro Darden
Real?
Laura Styles
Vlad came out and said, yeah, it's real, because I had previewed it before, so it's definitely not AI. So she made a statement yesterday.
Ebro Darden
And. And so we went from Tasha K. Yes. Being the. The. The validator of truthful stories to DJ Vlad.
Laura Styles
Welcome to the.
Ebro Darden
Since Vlad's reviewed the tape, we're all good now, but go ahead, continue.
Laura Styles
All right, so here's the statement that she put out. It was like, you know, when you read it, you're just like. You have. I was like, you know what? Yeah, it sucks. Your private moments in front of the whole world to judge you. And she says how she played a fool and she was in love with this man. Blah, blah, blah. Right. As you can see, she goes, with which man? With Diddy.
Ebro Darden
Okay.
Laura Styles
And that's why she wanted to satisfy him. And that's why she played a part in the videos. Right. So that was. Everybody was. Everybody took it as like, oh, so yes, this is confirmation. That's 100 real.
Ebro Darden
Yep.
Laura Styles
Like she participated in this willfully. Then the. The Internet was roasting her because, bro, all of a sudden she shows up on like a live and just starts doing like this weird Q A. And the Q A was just like her saying like, I don't. Do you have it? So I just kind of hand picked some questions that I've been asked. What? And yeah, so let's start. I. What? So what?
Ebro Darden
Nah, that's crazy.
Laura Styles
What? Like what are we doing? Like, this is. I thought it was so embarrassing.
Ebro Darden
I'm like, clearly she, she was smiling there. She was willing to play along. Clearly she's leaning into the moment.
Laura Styles
At first she was so hurt and humiliated and now she's like, that's what
Ebro Darden
she said in writing. That's what she said in writing.
Laura Styles
Let me get my 15 minutes in.
Ebro Darden
The video started recording. Her humiliation probably subsided a little bit and. Or if you was really hurt and humiliated. I don't know how many people jumping in front of the camera.
Laura Styles
Exactly, exactly.
Ebro Darden
Got an only fancy cell, does she? I'm not familiar.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah.
Ebro Darden
Oh, she gotta get that money.
Laura Styles
So it's all promo anyway.
Ebro Darden
Yeah. And so we are, are we convinced? It's always hard for me to. It's always hard for me to remove someone's financial aspirations and hustle away from some of their adult decisions that they make. Right. Especially when you see the people that she's chosen to be with.
Laura Styles
Okay,
Ebro Darden
so when. Now you tell me she's got an only fans. Remember what was going on with the Diddy case where they were saying that she was being moved around and you know, there are individuals who are willing to be in relationships for financial gain.
Laura Styles
Absolutely.
Ebro Darden
For the experience, the proximity to wealth, et cetera, et cetera.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
So now you tell them she's got an only fans. This whole thing comes out. There's a sex tape comes out. She claims she's humiliated. Lou says, well, she's got to sell only. Only fans. So I think all of it has been promo. All of it has been a financial opportunity to some degree. And, and I guess it's hard for me. And I don't know the woman. Never met her. I'm not saying she's a bad person. I'm just saying she's about that bread and she's willing to use her looks, her body, you know, her, the, the men desiring her to get financials.
Laura Styles
I think it was because in the statement, people were. Were. They were. The question was, was she a victim? Clearly not. She did this Will woefully like. Yes. But then I guess two things. She could have done it willfully, but she expected it to be a private moment and then it just became public.
Ebro Darden
But yeah, and yeah, I mean, look, that's. That's always bad,
Laura Styles
But.
Ebro Darden
It's always bad. But cameras was rolling.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ebro Darden
And I. I mean, I've never filmed myself in the act like that, but I remember even before we had cell phone cameras where people had the handy cams. When somebody sets up the handycam back in the day, you assuming that that tape was going somewhere if you didn't take it with you. So at. At this grown ass age, if someone's filming and you're not the in sole possession of.
Laura Styles
Right, right, right, right.
Ebro Darden
The content, you have to assume it's moving.
Laura Styles
Yeah, man. Because it didn't look like it was a hidden camera, you know, look like a production. So.
Guest or Analyst
But I.
Ebro Darden
You watched it. Watch.
Laura Styles
I know.
Ebro Darden
I told you, I watched like five minutes, full production.
Laura Styles
I just saw a clip on Twitter.
Ebro Darden
Hold up, hold up.
Laura Styles
I saw a clip on Twitter. I was like, oh, oh, oh, oh. Yeah.
Ebro Darden
She said, oh.
Laura Styles
Anyway, anyway, in other news, Mia is suing Kid Cudi.
Ebro Darden
All right.
Laura Styles
Yep. Over getting booted off the tour. Now if you guys remember, you know, Kid Cudi had gave her the boot because she went on stage. I think it was May 2nd during a stop. And she basically started going off talking about. I think the exact quote was, I've been canceled for many reasons. I never thought it would be canceled for being a brown Republican. I can't do illegal. Though some of you in the audience could be. And then obviously people started booing, da, da, da. Kid Cudi was like, hey, you weren't supposed to go into anything political. Got the boot. Now she's suing him.
Ebro Darden
So I wonder how that's suing him for unpaid. They signed a contract. I was supposed to be on certain number of dates.
Laura Styles
Yeah, she's suing him for millions.
Ebro Darden
And so now because you kicked me off and that wasn't contractually something you should be able to do. You owe me money.
Laura Styles
Yes. And she also claims that the reason that he kicked off the tour is to drum up ticket sales, that he wanted the controversy. So we shall see. But in more positive news, guys, guess who's back?
Ebro Darden
Guess who's Bizack.
Laura Styles
Serena Williams. Yes. She dropped. She's back to the tennis courts, man. She dropped the news via this Nike ad. Here, let's play it. Let's play it. Let's go.
Ebro Darden
That's like, she's getting texts, huh? Guess. Everybody, I gotta change my number. Nike. And let's sell some clothes.
Laura Styles
Yes, of course. It's a moment.
Ebro Darden
Well, and by the way, you know, summertime's here. Girls be rocking them tennis skirts now. That's, you know, they going to be in that Serena Williams at the. At the day party.
Laura Styles
No. And now that it, you know, tennis has had, like, a new popular emergence, so now everyone's going to be wearing those outfits. It's not just at the tennis courts. Sure. Yeah.
Ebro Darden
Well, and also to big up to Serena. I mean, seize the moment. You know what I mean? If you're feeling great and your body's in a certain place and you think you can get out there and go back at it, it's tough to retire, man. You know, it's really hard when you've done something. I mean,
Laura Styles
man, Venus is still playing, right?
Ebro Darden
No, no, no. She played in the tournament, like, a year ago. Yeah, but I thought she retired. I thought Venus retired, too. I think it's official retirement.
Laura Styles
Okay. No, official. Okay.
Ebro Darden
But when you've been doing something, I mean, like, I can relate. I've been doing this since I was 15 years old, on the microphone, playing music, talking. Ish. So I was 15. So when people are like, when you gonna retire? I'm like, soon. But I keep showing up. I tried to show up late today. I've been trying to show up late the last couple of days, and I'm still here. 39 grand slams. I didn't realize.
Laura Styles
39.
Ebro Darden
39 grand slams. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, Serena's serene. Yes. Go. And so my point is, is she probably feels really great. She's seeing what the competitive landscape is like.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
She sees a business opportunity as well. And so let's make a run at it, you know, I mean, and our daughter's getting older. Maybe she can. And, you know, maybe she's inspiring her daughter in some way. You know, obviously, your children seeing you get up and go to work and accomplish something. Right. Like, get up every morning and go after something is great for your kids to see. Right. It's great for your children. I think it's. It's good, you know? I know. Like, I think about Issa right now. Issa's whole life. She seen me waking up five, six o' clock in the morning, see her mom waking up, getting after it. Issa wakes up on her own, with her own alarm, gets herself together, makes her bed. She's been doing that. She's like 6 years old. Because that was the norm.
Laura Styles
Right.
Ebro Darden
You know, I mean, so to some degree, I'm sure there's an. A catalyst in this for Serena is kind of like seeing her young daughter and being like, yo, I wanna. I want her to see me when she can remember me, Right? Because she.
Laura Styles
Her oldest, Olympia, is maybe, like, I want to say, 8 or 10, so. And I think her youngest is about 3, 4.
Ebro Darden
Yeah.
Laura Styles
So I feel like she took something
Ebro Darden
in there for that, too.
Laura Styles
You know what I mean? And she feels strong, and she's been like. She. I've always, like, I follow on social media. She never stopped training.
Ebro Darden
That's right.
Laura Styles
So Olympia's eight. Okay.
Ebro Darden
And. And the baby's name is Adira.
Laura Styles
A deer. Right?
Ebro Darden
Shout to the Ohanian Williams family.
Laura Styles
Yeah, man.
Ebro Darden
No, they've been supporters of us, man.
Laura Styles
Yes.
Ebro Darden
Yeah. Alexis, come on the show. What's the events he does? Athlows Athlos.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
Issa went out to that track joint that was inspiring for her.
Laura Styles
I went to it. It's. It's actually incredible. Yeah, it's an. I think they're going to London next, but it's an. If you get a chance to go watch it. The tickets are pretty affordable, too, but it's a family event, and it's just highlighting incredible female athletes.
Ebro Darden
Yo, yo, Laura's. Laura's more in our. In our marketing department than Griff these days. Laura, can you get us some Athlos collabo ticket giveaways?
Laura Styles
Yeah, but it's in London.
Ebro Darden
No, like, it. Doesn't it come to new. Isn't there a New York one that happens every year? Like, they alternate or they move it.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
Or am I making that up? Because I remember it's been in New York.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
Multiple times.
Laura Styles
I don't know if they're gonna come back, but I'll check. I'll reach out to them, because it really is. Honestly, guys, it's an amazing show. It is fun. Fun. It is well organized. Visually, it's beautiful. And.
Ebro Darden
And the women make money. That's the other part.
Laura Styles
That's literally the point of it.
Ebro Darden
The point of it is professional athletes have another outlet to compete and get paid.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's dope. When I was there, each winner got a Tiffany crown, so, you know, that's worth already a lot of money.
Ebro Darden
We selling that if we need to.
Laura Styles
And Serena personally crowns all the girls, so. You see them all, like, super honored and crying. It's beautiful. It's beautiful.
Ebro Darden
So look out to Serena. Back out. Back at it. We're gonna be rooting. I saw. I saw Naomi Osaka and a bunch of other black tennis players gathered to have, like, a little, you know, private little dinner hangout session. Did you. A few days ago, Lou, you saw that on the Internet, say was coming for Naomi. Because it was just black athletes, and Naomi was like, I'm not apologizing for working professionally in a space where we don't have many of us and we need to gather with each other to uplift each other, because we are all dealing with different levels of racism and microaggressions, et cetera, et cetera, in the workplace. Right. And so when you are a marginalized group and a minority in a. In spaces, you will notice, we all do it. Women do it when they're in large groups with men. Black folks do it when they're in large groups with whites and others. Latinos do it. Asians do it. Yeah, everybody does it. Because you want to connect with somebody who's having a. Like, you know, a. And it's a similar experience. And so, yeah, Naomi was on the gram. Like, I'm not apologizing for that, y'. All. Sorry about that. One thing I'll never apologize for is uplifting black athletes and, you know, bringing us together.
Laura Styles
Good for her especially, you know, Naomi can be a little shy sometimes. I just love to see her, like, fired up.
Ebro Darden
She a mom now. She fired up, too. She ain't shy no more. Good for her.
Laura Styles
I love that, though. I love that. Well, yes, that's the rundown.
Ebro Darden
There it is. Intro is the outro. The rundown. Turn that up. Screens now, when she pull up the audience, you guys know I like to bring you inside the inner working every day. And I've been late the last two days. I ain't going to hold. Walked in right at the top of the hour, but Laura always got. Sits me down and goes, here's what I'm doing in the rundown. They make sure I don't get to it before she gets to it on the sheet today. And by the way, for the last several months, Griff's been doing a great job here.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
Here's what Laura's going to cover in the rundown. And it says here she's gonna do Mia Serena Williams. Yes. And the ticks now off. Outside of that section was Daphne Joy.
Laura Styles
Yeah. Yeah.
Ebro Darden
I thought we was gonna do Daphne Joy outside of the rundown. And then do the rundown and get to the ticks. No, Laura wanted to do. Now she wants to flip it on me.
Laura Styles
Sorry, I was just like, no, that belongs here. That belongs over here.
Ebro Darden
It doesn't. But I'm saying, Laura, you don't have to do all the things you're passionate about in the rundown, but let's get
Laura Styles
to the ticks, bro. It's stressing me out. It's stressing me out. Yo. So my. So my homegirl. I'm not gonna say her name, but she has been dealing with. She just couldn't figure out what was wrong with her body. Finally, after three years, she found out she has Lyme disease. And I didn't know that there was no cure for it. But then. And then another friend of mine who usually goes to Martha's Vineyard was like, yo, I'm thinking about not going. And I was like, why? She was like, this whole tick issue. So I started, you know, looking into it. She was like, there's a specific tick that's going around, and it's not just Martha's Vineyard. It's in a lot of places. But if you get big, it's.
Ebro Darden
The Lone Star tick, is what they
Laura Styles
call it, is that you can develop this crazy meat and dairy allergy which has changed people's lives. Now, Rahsaan, how we looking? All right, let's go watch this.
Reporter or Field Correspondent
Ticks are making people allergic to red meat and dairy. It sounds crazy, but it's an allergy called alpha gal, and it's been spreading across the United States, but it's getting a stage especially bad right now on Martha's Vineyard. We went there and met with an epidemiologist who's been tracking this allergy's rise across the island.
Laura Styles
But it's a molecule that's in the bite of a tick, specifically Lone Star ticks in the United States.
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Laura Styles
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Reporter or Field Correspondent
Now, Alpha gal is sometimes called the midnight allergy because it can hit several hours after you eat. This happened to Tom Murphy. Ate a steak dinner and then went to bed.
Ebro Darden
Everything was fine. Everything was normal. And about two or so in the morning, I woke up, and I was having trouble breathing. A lot of trouble breathing at that time.
Laura Styles
They had to send the test off the island. I mean, it wasn't on anybody's radar. The doctor hadn't even heard about it.
Reporter or Field Correspondent
So what were the things you can't eat anyway?
Ebro Darden
Well, you can't eat anything, any meat that comes from an animal with a hoof. So no beef, no lamb, no pork, no venison.
Reporter or Field Correspondent
Ticks already had been a big problem in Martha's Vineyard, but the Lone Star, which carries Alpha Gal, has been spreading especially fast. It's a very aggressive tick. When we went on a tick hunt in Tom's Yard with a tick biologist, we found two lone stars among 21 total ticks.
Ebro Darden
They are a different beast. We've got a good climate here for ticks. Since we're out on the ocean, we have plenty of hosts, like very overabundant deer, other overabundant hosts that the ticks just have no problem finding a meal and they just weren't here on the island before somebody brought them.
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Ebro Darden
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Laura Styles
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Ebro Darden
That's what you going with.
Laura Styles
Like somebody brought that.
Ebro Darden
I mean, it could have came a number of ways. Obviously could came from animals. It could have came through shipping, it could have came through some sort of nefarious activity to attack Martha's Vineyard.
Laura Styles
No, because it's not just there. It's. It's in a lot of places, bro. This is crazy.
Ebro Darden
We are going to attack Martha's Vineyard.
Laura Styles
No.
Ebro Darden
First of all, if you've been upstate or you've been hiking or you've been doing any outdoorsy behavior where there's deer or anything like that, the conversation around ticks, at least for me since I was a child, have been like, watch out for ticks and Lyme disease. So it's not new for at least in my world. Now, there has been an increase in ticks this year because of the type of weather we are having this year.
Laura Styles
Why?
Ebro Darden
You say why? You see how delayed the heat has been?
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
We're already in June. Right. Ticks and mosquitoes, if you notice, you haven't really seen a lot of mosquitoes either. Right. Because all ticks and mosquitoes all start to come out when it starts to get humid and the moisture and all of that sort of stuff. So that means this year it's all gonna happen rapidly. Same thing happens with allergies, right? Right. Remember how like winter was long and then all of a sudden boom, everything blooms, pollen's everywhere and everybody's allergies. So when you have these seasons where they're very abrupt or winter's very long and then all of a sudden it gets really, really hot, you're going to have these explosions, they say. And why do I know this? Because you all know I'll be upstate and I'll be doing this. So I pay attention to this kind of talk. Obviously for the kids, obviously, for myself. And so when you get bit by a tick, right, you have like 24 hours to get to hospital treatment, whatever, to make sure you don't get the effects of the Lyme disease. So it's not like an instant you get bit and it's done. So for you, the other thing is when you are hiking in tall grass or bushes or rubbing up against plants and all of those things, walking on hiking trails, you should probably want to wear some sleeves and you want to wear, like longer, flowy pants. I know on hot days, people be wanting to wear shorts and all that, but don't be up in the bushes with your skin exposed, because that's how you're going to get a tick. The other thing, when you get done and you get in the shower, you
Laura Styles
got to check yourself.
Ebro Darden
You check. You're supposed to check. You and your kids, you go across their body, through their hair and everything, looking for ticks.
Laura Styles
Do they get under your skin?
Ebro Darden
They get. They can burrow into your skin. And they. And now they have tick removing tools that if you plan to be outside this holiday or whatever, there's tools that can help you remove a tick. Because some people, when I was young, they used to be like, ticks go in clockwise and to get them back out, you got to go counterclockwise.
Laura Styles
I don't know, twist them off.
Ebro Darden
Well, you like twist them out of your skin. I never did that before. That was like some old head talk. So that is definitely not something I would suggest is valid. But they do have tools that you can like tick removing things that you could buy on Amazon or whatever they also have. That's why you wear insect sprays.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
Ebro Darden
So they have sprays for insects, whatever. Also, if you have. Going over to, like, I don't know, family member's house, whatever, ask them if they've sprayed for mosquitoes and ticks. So, like. Right. Well, it probably would have been a few weeks ago, but I know at our property upstate, I start spraying in April every year regardless. Spraying for ticks and mosquitoes. We spray once a month.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ebro Darden
Boom. We keep the grass cut, make sure, you know, because there's going to be deer coming by, they're going to have ticks on them. So you want to make sure, you know, none of the babies get hatched. Because that's really what you're doing with ticks and mosquitoes, is you're killing them before they hatch, or at least trying to.
Laura Styles
I mean, to me, the scariest part Is like getting bit and then like getting the allergic reaction in the middle of the night.
Ebro Darden
Well, no. So that for that man, for the long he would have. He would have gotten bit. Not known he's gotten bit. Another 24 hours would have passed. Then he would have ate meat, then he would have had the reaction. So it would have been over a few, several days. I don't think it the way I understand it's not instantaneous. Once again, I haven't been bit. I'm also not a professional. This is all information that I've either read or has been shared with me. So make sure you check with your local physician and keep yourself safe. 8, 4, 4, ELR. ELR 3. Do you have Lyme's disease? From the chat. Somebody's aunt had undocumented Lyme disease.
Laura Styles
I texted you.
Ebro Darden
Oh, you texted it to us.
Laura Styles
Let me see, let me see, let me see. From Erica B. 6, 4, 7, 1. My aunt had untreated Lyme disease. She ended up in the hospital for three weeks. Oh, my God. Due to all the rising issues, she started having rashes, fevers, hair loss, fatigue, headach. Damn, Erica, that's crazy.
Ebro Darden
It was real Lyme's disease. Real. I knew somebody with Lyme disease as well. They were a horseback rider. I'm not. There's somebody you all know, but I'm not gonna put their business out there because it was a long time ago, and I think they're doing well. Like, I think they. I think there is a way to either manage, maintain, or do something with Lyme's disease to make sure it doesn't affect you long term. That other thing they talking about, that alpha gal. Whatever that. Yeah, whatever that is that you're getting from the lone Star with the allergic to meat and dairy. I don't know. I don't know nothing about that. I never heard of that.
Laura Styles
Yeah. This year I just started learning about this. So this is some newish.
Ebro Darden
So, Laura, what are you gonna do when you go out to the Hamptons on your, you know, delightful getaways?
Laura Styles
I don't know.
Ebro Darden
Family.
Laura Styles
I don't know.
Ebro Darden
Because now you guys gotta watch. Now that Laura has found out a new of new fear has been unlocked, she may not leave the house.
Laura Styles
Y' all make fun of me. Guys, for the chat in the audience, I have this fear of sinkholes. How long has it been Griffs that I've been talking to about sinkholes?
Ebro Darden
10 years.
Laura Styles
10 years. One of the first things. Yeah. That I spoke to producer Griff about because you see Them all around the world. Like, sinkhole in China, sinkhole in, you know, in India. And now all of a sudden, this year, there's all these sinkholes here in the United States. There was one in LaGuardia Airport, my G. Yeah, the ground just opens. That's it. And you fall in and.
Ebro Darden
Laura, what are you gonna do about this?
Laura Styles
I don't know, man. I'm not gonna walk anymore. No, it's Brooklyn.
Ebro Darden
It's over.
Laura Styles
Oh, my God. I can't.
Ebro Darden
There's been sinkholes in Brooklyn.
Laura Styles
I just don't want to know. Don't tell me, because then now is
Ebro Darden
the fear that somehow you're gonna be trapped.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ebro Darden
And it's gonna get you.
Laura Styles
Yes, yes, yes. You know I'm claustrophobic, bruh.
Ebro Darden
Now, mind you, Laura Styles will travel to the ends of the earth for excursions. Every December. She goes to some of the most insect ridden locations on the planet for fun. Some of which, I mean, I even question, like, yo, I heard the cockroaches. They are mad big, bro. And she'll be like, yeah, I mean, you see them, but it's no big deal. You get to go to these little markets and have these little eel foods that are amazing. Speaking of Thailand, by the way.
Laura Styles
But you know what's crazy? Like, I've not, like, I'm not scared of, like, like spiders and like a roach. Like, I'll stomp on a roach, I'll kill a spider. And then my man is arachnophobic, so he'll freak out. But I'm just, you know, it's certain things that bother me. But, yeah, I know, I. Look, I know people feel me in these sinkholes, man.
Ebro Darden
Really? Sinkholes?
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
You think people are out there like, yeah, I'm sinkhole phobic. Yup, yup.
Laura Styles
See, everyone's talking about it at the chat. Yep. Fear of holes.
Ebro Darden
Yep.
Laura Styles
Telling you. I'm telling you.
Ebro Darden
Hilarious. All right, anyway, listen, we've been. At least I have. I don't know about everybody on this show, but I've been watching how this Iran thing is playing out.
Laura Styles
Where are we?
Ebro Darden
We're nowhere. I'll tell you the most. The thing that affects us the most is it's gotten so bad with what we all care about, which is gas prices. They are saying that we won't see anything near $3 a gallon until 2032 because of how this has messed up the international market of oil. There's also conversations now that Israel's military and America's military will become one in the same. Now, mind you, it kind of was anyway, because we fund it, basically. They buy stuff from us. Whatever, whatever.
Laura Styles
And I read before that we sent troops over there to train.
Ebro Darden
And they've tried and they've. The NYPD is trained by the IDF here in New York City. People have talked about.
Laura Styles
Really?
Ebro Darden
Yeah, on like, you know, urban training, city training, and the way they. The IDF monitors what's going on in Gaza or what's going on in Tel Aviv in these cities. They've used some of that training here with the nypd.
Laura Styles
I didn't know that.
Ebro Darden
It's a documented thing. Yes, but now it's supposed to become more incestuous. And that's what they're. They're aiming for. At least that's the word. You also have Iran saying, we haven't heard from anyone on anything. They're all lying. Meanwhile, we're five weeks out from the celebration of 250 years. Have you guys seen the. I saw it next to MSG yesterday. The billboard or. It was like a. One of those digital boards. It said UFC at the White House. Have you seen that promo?
Laura Styles
I haven't seen.
Ebro Darden
Bring that in for tomorrow's show.
Laura Styles
I have not seen it.
Ebro Darden
Is so. Nah. Brought a Google for me. You played yourself. What are some of the wildest entertainment things that have happened at the White House? Oh, there are some good ones, right? Because I think we need context here. Because of course, we all sit here and we're like, who would and why would we be holding an Ultimate Fighting Championship at the White house to celebrate 250 years? I personally think it's on brand.
Laura Styles
I hear you. It's still a clown show.
Ebro Darden
No, no, no. Guess what? America is.
Laura Styles
Yes.
Ebro Darden
That's why I think it's on brand. Also. What do we. What do we love the most in this country? Violence.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
So why wouldn't UFC at the White House? So all of our, you know, hope of a better world, more inclusivity, a melting pot. A nation where everyone's welcomed, no matter your background, your creed, your color, your religion, your dad, all of those shenanigans we've been marketing to the world for 250 years, we sit here at the 250th birthday. None of that is true, bro.
Laura Styles
So what's gonna happen? It's like, on the actual day, they're just gonna showcase the fight and, like, fireworks.
Ebro Darden
No, you saw the thing that they're building.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they're gonna do that. And that's it. Happy birthday.
Ebro Darden
Well, they was gonna have Milli Vanilli in them.
Laura Styles
I mean, you know,
Ebro Darden
only Millie, no Vanilli, and not the real. And not the real Milli, Vanilla and no young mc. But what do they got? Flow Rider and Vanilla Ice. Yeah, Congratulations. You played yourself. Flow Rider's a nice guy, too. He shows up to get the bag. He's a. He's a nice guy. He's always showed up to get the bag, but he's never given a damn about nothing. Yeah, but them hit records and getting to that bag, you don't care about nothing.
Rashad
And you got Vanilla Ice saying, ice, Ice, baby, Congratulations.
Ebro Darden
You played yourself. That's all. But that's what they want. Yeah, they love that. And by the way, Vanilla Ice don't make no money off that song, Ice Size Baby. And so he's like, look, I'm showing up to the opening of an envelope. Anybody invite anybody showing me love, I'm there.
Laura Styles
You want me up.
Ebro Darden
I don't know what Vanilla Ice stands for. Stood for in his private. I don't know nothing about that, man.
Laura Styles
I think he's a known Trump supporter.
Ebro Darden
Oh, he is. Yeah.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ebro Darden
Not surprised. Rahsaan, do you still have in your. In your photo bank over there, the picture of the White House with the UFC build outside? We showed it the other day. I don't know if you still have it.
Laura Styles
No, you don't have.
Ebro Darden
You don't have anymore. I wanted to show that to the people one more time because there was
Rashad
a new photo yesterday with this.
Ebro Darden
Go to clip number one for me, Rahsaan. This is also being speculated with regards to Trump and Iran.
Guest or Analyst
Trump is about to give $300 billion in war reparations to Iran, and they're trying to hide it by calling it a post war investment fund. That's $300 billion. But one, America doesn't do charity. And number two, Iran has called this a reconstruction program because they demanded reparations for bombardment damage that some Iranian officials are estimating at $300 billion to $1 trillion. And all of this is happening because Trump doesn't have the cards. Iran has embarrassed us on the world stage by hitting far more US Military assets than the Department of Defense has admitted to. And the Iran war has caused the Strait of Hormuz to be closed lows, causing gas prices to go up. So much so that experts are now saying that we won't go back to under $3 of gas per gallon until after 2032. So to recap this entire mess, Donald Trump got us into A war with Iran, going so far as to bomb a school with 160 children in it to distract us from the fact that he was in the Epstein files. Underestimated Iran's military strength and strategy as a global player who directly impacts the oil and gas market and who constantly critiqued obligations. Obama's nuclear deal.
Ebro Darden
Saying this, Barack Hussein Obama made maybe the worst deal I've ever seen because he gave all power in the Middle east to Iran.
Guest or Analyst
When Obama gave $1.7 billion to Iran to release American hostages, only for Trump to turn around and give 300 times the amount Obama gave Iran. $300 billion. And on top of all of that, the reason we were lied to and told of why we were bombing Iran in the first place was because they had enriched uranium, which would be used to create nuclear weapons. That conversation isn't even on the table because any talks of nuclear weapons would be tabled to a second phase of the fucking negotiation. The reality is this. $300 billion will be given to Iran to fix a mess an incompetent president and his administration made. And you will still be lied to being told that there is no money for Americans to have free health care or child care because we need more money for wars. Anybody who believed Trump was America for first was lied to for the billionth time.
Laura Styles
Well, they were successful. Yeah, successful, because. No. The Epstein files. Nobody cares anymore. People don't talk about it anymore.
Ebro Darden
That's right.
Laura Styles
And that was the point. Right? It was all a distraction. They wanted to make sure that everyone's attention was moved somewhere else. And congratulations, they succeeded. No one. No one will be held accountable.
Ebro Darden
Congratulations. You played yourself, yo. The amount of sexual assault, the amount of pedophiles that see less time in jail than, like, people who sold Mary. There's people in jail longer for selling
Laura Styles
marijuana still, by the way.
Ebro Darden
Still than sexual assault. And we should all. Look, I'll be honest. I don't know about y', all, but we should feel ashamed. I do. As much as I've talked about these topics and tried to kick and scream and spit and cuss about how ridiculous and stupid this stuff is, people just don't care. And when you look at the Medicare for All, Medicaid for All conversation in this country, it's 1000% tied to individuals who are so stupid that they believe that them having something that they worked for and keeping something away from people who need it makes them feel more accomplished.
Laura Styles
Yeah. Yes.
Ebro Darden
And the history of it is tied to white supremacists and white racists in this country, keeping it away from black folks. And that's how dumb, poor white people are. Cut off your nose despite your face.
Laura Styles
But it's. It's not just white people. Latinos are in there. Asian folks.
Ebro Darden
Well, historically, it was. It was white people trying to keep medical and all of this away from blacks. But yes, now you have the. The Latinos who think that they are blanquitos. Mm.
Laura Styles
Yeah, I. It is wild to me, though, because the other day I was like, you know, when you check trends. Louis, have you ever seen any talk of the Epstein files anymore? It's gone.
Ebro Darden
Well, where would you see it on social media networks that are currently owned by people who want to talk? Gone.
Rashad
Fact.
Ebro Darden
Like, where would you see it? Would you see it on media networks that are owned by the same people who own the social media networks who want to talk? Gone by the same billionaires who wanted. Where would you guys see this talk about the Epstein files? You would see the independent places, which is why when Rosenberg's here and he's always talking about not believing somebody on Instagram or it's coming from a valid source. What's the valid source? Earlier, y' all was saying Tasha K. And Vlad were valid sources for information.
Laura Styles
We're talking about gossip.
Ebro Darden
Well, I know we were talking about gossip, but I'm just saying this is, like, where we are today.
Laura Styles
No, it's a very complicated place. Because somebody asked me, he's like, why do you guys have Kevin on? I was like, well, because he's actually reporting. He's on the scene. Like, he's there covering everything in a very fair way, and nobody else is doing that. I mean, I'm sure there's other independent creators, but right now, for me, I watch him more than I trust other outlets.
Ebro Darden
And so you. Look, I'm from old. So I'm from a time where you would hope that these outlets, the CBS is, the ABCs, the CNNs or whatever, were these kind of like real journalism and they vetted things or whatever. But I even think back to that. Why did we believe that they were owned by corporations, too, who had agendas?
Laura Styles
Yeah, but at least there were certain journalists that you felt like they actually did the work. You know what I mean? They did the work. They cared.
Ebro Darden
And then some of those people they got rid of.
Laura Styles
They're gone.
Ebro Darden
But. But I'm saying for the network, not the individuals. I'm saying for the network, because even to this day, right now, if you say the wrong things or don't behave the way that they want you to behave when it comes to delivering content.
Laura Styles
That's right.
Ebro Darden
Editorialize too much. You sitting here with us?
Laura Styles
Yes. I'm like, happen to us. Yeah, man. It is a tough time because people like, I have the one question that people ask me all the time is like, where do I look for information? That's true. Like, where do I find this?
Ebro Darden
Ground news? No ground. Look, I like Ground news, but the reason I always bring that up is because if you are really looking and you'd know not everybody's actually looking. They want to go somewhere and have someone tell them what's going on. But if you're actually looking, you get to go, okay, these are the things I'm interested in. And the app delivers it to you and then it tells you who's covering it. And so you can look at the
Laura Styles
slant in which way they lean, in
Ebro Darden
which way the coverage of the thing leans. Is it leaning more left, Is it leaning more right, or is it more center? And then you can even see how much of what side is covering it, which is all a really telling to me. If the left is all talking about something and the right is not talking about it at all, based on what we know about the right, they got something to hide.
Laura Styles
Right.
Ebro Darden
Why are you not covering this thing? And so then you can go find kind of a center outlet, you know, that is more straight down the middle. Here are the facts.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah.
Ebro Darden
Read up on it and discern for yourself if this is something that's pertinent to you or if you want to. But that. That's Ground news also. Look, I'm biased, but I like the Apple News app.
Laura Styles
Me too.
Ebro Darden
Apple News is great.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ebro Darden
Great aggregator of everything that's going on out there. If you wanted to, you open up the app every morning, you can see what the big stories are based on the things that you've said. Here's the things I'm interested in, and it's going to deliver it to you.
Laura Styles
I. I think I'm going to get Ground News because I usually use the Apple News, but I'm going to check it out.
Ebro Darden
Yeah, Ground News just gives you a slant. It's not. Apple News is going to give you what you need. Ground News is going to tell you who's covering what and what the slant in the deal.
Laura Styles
I think that's important, though. It's important to know that I'm gonna
Ebro Darden
check it out because if you care which. I'm a person, I think I. I wasn't here last week in the Week before, I was in and out traveling. When I'm not actually doing this job, I definitely listen to a lot more music.
Laura Styles
Okay.
Ebro Darden
And I definitely read a lot more news. Newsy news.
Laura Styles
I. I like the daily.
Ebro Darden
Okay.
Laura Styles
The daily podcast. I think it's. It's. I Recommend it's like 30 minutes, and they give you just, like, the headlines, and I believe they deliver it in a very balanced way.
Ebro Darden
Right.
Laura Styles
So that's just me. But. But, yeah, that's one thing that I've been. And then I, you know, I check out npr. I try to check out some of the most, you know, and I actually even go to Fox News just to see what they're talking about.
Ebro Darden
Right.
Laura Styles
Just because I need to be informed.
Ebro Darden
Yeah, I know.
Laura Styles
I. Just to see it, but, like.
Ebro Darden
Okay, I'm good. I can't take their graphics and their colors.
Laura Styles
I know, I know. I know.
Ebro Darden
I feel like you trying to do something to my brain with this whack.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
Why is everything so bright and yellow and blues and what's happening here? Yeah, yeah. You're trying to. Because you know what it is? They're trying to make you feel like everything's hunky dory with all those bright colors while they're delivering you. They're just sending you down into an abyss of hell. Lies and evil and lies. But it's all, like, blues and blondes and, you know, reds and white folks acting like everything's all good. You're a liar.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
It's not all good. And you're evil. Let's get to the gurus. Hey, yo, it's time for the gurus. Rosenberg. Laura, you know you are beautiful queen Ebro. Don't ever play yourself. You're not a guru. Surely am. I am Khaled.
Laura Styles
Original gurusmail.com theoriginalgurusmail.com that's where you write to us, where the gurus unite to fight for what's right. Hebrew, burn the sea.
Ebro Darden
Zen. Zen. Zen.
Laura Styles
Okay. Oh, wow. So this one is mixed and confused.
Ebro Darden
Mixed about what?
Laura Styles
Hey, Ebro. Rosenberg and Laura. I need some guru wisdom. And, Ebro, I'm really hoping you can weigh in since you're mixed, too. I'm an only child and grew up only knowing my white side of the family. My dad always told me that he was indigenous and that I was mixed with white and indigenous. But recently a friend looked at a picture of my dad and told me straight up, he ain't indigenous. He's black. I ended up taking a DNA test and it flipped my world Upside down, zero indigenous DNA. Instead, I'm a mix of white and several different black nationalities. Now I'm a total loss when people ask me what I am. I'm just very confused because I've been lied to. If I just say I'm white, then I'm ignoring a huge part of myself. But saying I'm black gives me a major imposter syndrome. I never met that side of my family and I wasn't raised in the culture. And even if I was around friends and in my neighborhood, I just want to be proud of everything that I am. And I feel awkward claiming an identity that I didn't live. How do I navigate this? And how do I proudly own being mixed without feeling like a fraud? Thanks, guys. Sincerely, mixed and confused.
Ebro Darden
Well, how old is this person?
Laura Styles
I don't know. Does not say.
Ebro Darden
Maybe. In the United States of America, a racialized society, there is a construct of race. Race is a made up construct, social construct of how you present in society. There are mixed people who present as white. And in this nation, you had people and you had black people who present as white. Like they have black parents who, you know, generation, generation, generation. There was pro. There was definitely some white person in there. They're fair skinned. They show up in society based on their features and hair textures and these other things that present you racially. People would assume they were white, so they were allowed privileges in society based on their appearance, even though they knew they were black. Okay, so that's very complicated. Yeah, because society looks at them as white, but they know culturally, ethnically, they're black. Then there's people who they have, you know, mixed like myself. They have a black parent, they have a white parent, a Bob Marley, a Drake, a Barack Obama, a Lenny Kravitz. We can go on and on and on of individuals that everybody says is black. They accept that they're black, but they have a white parent. But they also culturally are probably were raised in closer proximity to black culture.
Laura Styles
Yes.
Ebro Darden
So this person, I would have to see a photo of this person. I have a friend who I've known, you know, last 15 years. She's also black and Jewish.
Laura Styles
Okay.
Ebro Darden
She was raised in. There was a. She put out a documentary. She was raised in Woodstock, New York by her Jewish family and her mother and her whole family never told her she was black. She didn't know she was black until she was. And she's lighter than me. Hair texture is kind of straighter, wavier, you know, so she could pass. She could. There was something there. But There's Jews, North African Jews, Jews who are Arabs, Mizrahi Jews, Sephardic, whatever, who also. They don't nest. They consider themselves to be Jewish, but they don't necessarily consider themselves to be black. Okay, so it is complicated. And so I understand the confusion. But you, sir, you're an American, and your father. I don't know what these people look like. But there were also generations of black folks who took on either because that was their culture, being of an indigenous tribe. Because there are black indigenous tribes.
Laura Styles
That's right.
Ebro Darden
That is a thing. Right? Cherokee, Choctaw, Muscogee Creek, and even here in the Northeast, there are tribes that, when you see them through their lineage, they are dark, complected, kinky, curly hair indigenous tribes. And they were here before the slave trade started. So there's a lot of complex stories. So your father could be for sure an indigenous person. In his mind, I was like, as a DNA, because his family, when he was born, said, that's who we are.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah.
Ebro Darden
The DNA says something different. But that was the story he was told. And they probably took on that story for survival. We know people like that who just found out they was. Yes, they were not who they thought they were. Right. Like, we found out somebody was like. They thought it was Cuban. They found out they was Puerto Rican, but their family had taken on this Cuban identity to be safe in South Florida.
Laura Styles
The Puerto Rican identity, or, excuse me,
Ebro Darden
the Puerto Rican identity to be safe in. In. In, you know, whatever environment they were in and just kind of blend in. They didn't want. Or we have some other friends who are like first generation. And their families didn't teach them languages and traditions because when their families showed up here, they didn't want to be ostracized. They wanted to assimilate and move in. So everybody's got a story. But for this individual, I would say first, how do you present in society? And so you can racially be black, you can culturally not be close to, you know, black American culture and traditions. That's a thing for sure. But you could also take it upon yourself to learn those things. Right. Like, often in our society, we think black culture is tied to, like, how you dress and how you speak. That's not true. Like, that's just not. Not all black people speak with the same intonations and cadences. And not all black people are out here using slang. Not all black people care about rap music and hip hop. Like, it's just. That's just a. Something that, you know, has been a Narrative that's been created almost a stereotype to some degree. So for this individual who's saying that they're confused, you are black racially, and then culturally. And, and, and you are black ethnically, but culturally, who you associate with, and that's just a part being American.
Laura Styles
Yeah. And I also, correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm not a mixed person. But.
Ebro Darden
But you are, though.
Laura Styles
I mean, I guess. But I.
Ebro Darden
You're mixed differently.
Laura Styles
Differently. Correct.
Ebro Darden
But. But. And the reason I say that is. That's important. Right. Because I'm sure there's been social scenarios that you've been in where people have assumed your thing. Mexican, Puerto Rican.
Laura Styles
Yeah, all the time.
Ebro Darden
All the time. And you're like, no, I'm Guatemalan and Honduran.
Laura Styles
And they're like, oh, yeah, I'm not Honduran.
Ebro Darden
What is it?
Laura Styles
Guatemalan. And then my dad's side is Guatemalan and Belizean.
Ebro Darden
Belizean. Sorry about that.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah.
Ebro Darden
But you know what I mean, it's a different mix, and that has its own cultures.
Laura Styles
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Ebro Darden
You know what I mean? So I every. And by the way, most black Americans, most people in America are mixed. Like.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
Like, take somebody like Fat Joe, who is Puerto Rican, I believe, and Colombian. Or is it Cuban?
Laura Styles
Cuban.
Ebro Darden
Puerto Rican and Cuban.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
Most people just assume he's Puerto Rican. Right. Because he's in New York and Puerto Rican culture and influence and, you know, all that kind of dominates the, the Latino kind of culture.
Laura Styles
Right. And that's where he felt he fit in.
Ebro Darden
And that's where he felt like he fit in. Right. So, you know, people are mixed. Griff, you're, you're Belizean in Belizean, Southern United States and then India. So, so black Griff is black American from the south, because, by the way, black American from the south and black American from the north and black American from the west is, is culturally different in some ways. And so, but racially, when you, if you was to see Griffith, you would go, that's a black man.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
You would hear him talk and you would be like, that's not a black man. But that's my point.
Laura Styles
Yeah. Yeah.
Ebro Darden
When you're talking about race, you know what I'm saying? It's how you present in society.
Laura Styles
So what I was trying to say is that it's, I feel like, is it, it's okay for him to say, like, hey, I just found out and I'm learning.
Ebro Darden
Yeah.
Laura Styles
It's not. You can say that. I, I, I don't Think there's anything wrong with that?
Ebro Darden
Now, look, brace yourself. Culturally, black people talk a lot of shit, and so they gonna make fun of you just like I made fun of gift. But that's how we show love.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ebro Darden
It's all love, bro. Don't. It's. And by the way, it. It's okay to be confused.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
And it's not. It's not like it's everything I just explained. I'm sure somebody's gonna email or text and tell me I'm wrong or I'm right or. There's more nuance than I was able to articulate. Whatever. Whatever it is. Because it is a complicated conversation.
Laura Styles
Correct.
Ebro Darden
But one thing about the US and this is my own filter and lens, and y' all know I am. We live in the United States of America. All of those nuances I just talked about and different things are cute. It's cute to talk about. I'm. I'm Guatemalan and Belizean, and I'm Belizean and black American and Indian, and I'm half Cuban and I'm half Puerto Rican, and I'm this and I'm that. It's all cute. And I. And I. And I'm not being. I say this in all due respect. In the United States of America, how the police respond to you and how society responds to you and how the workplace responds to you when you show up, that's what you are. Everything else doesn't matter. Your community, your friends, they're gonna love you regardless. This race thing is made up by the government. My ability to put my government name, Ibrahim on a job application and then show up looking like myself and not pre. Be. Be prejudged by my name, my appearance, still get the same pay, not get harassed by police. Those are. That's what we're fighting against.
Laura Styles
Yeah. Yeah.
Ebro Darden
All this other stuff is like, yeah, no, it's beautiful. You're. You're culturally mixed and la. But the real thing in this society, and y' all know it's even more relevant and prevalent right now, how you show up in society is dictating how you feel about what's going on and your level of safety.
Laura Styles
Yeah, that is very true. And to this guy, because he says, look, even though I never met my side of the family and I wasn't raised in the culture, he's like, it just gives me major imposter syndrome. I don't think you should. I think you should open up and just be honest about who you are in your journey. And Then maybe you'll find something cool if you start digging into that side of the family.
Ebro Darden
And also just always say, people talk shit. It don't mean they don't love you, man. People talk shit about me all the time. They tune in every day and give us money in the super chat and give me likes on the gram and shit. Talk shit about me. Talk shit about my look, Talk shit about me not knowing I'm white. Call me white boy. Black people been calling me white boy my whole life. You know what I'm saying? People talk shit. So I think what you need to really focus on is showing up as yourself.
Laura Styles
Yeah, that's it.
Ebro Darden
Right. Trying to figure out, you know, you know, how people who don't love you feel about you is a whole journey that might be a waste of energy depending on how old you are too. Like just, you know, if you're black ethnically and you don't feel connected to black American culture, start going to some black American cultural events and learn and just have a good time and be yourself.
Laura Styles
Hopefully this helped. Associate the gurus.
Ebro Darden
The guru. We got. Get out and vote. From what section is voting primaries in New Jersey and New York today?
Laura Styles
Yes. Go to vote.org make sure you know where your location is. Just make sure you know you register correctly. All that good stuff.
Ebro Darden
Now King Lou on the rap. What was the super chat talking about?
Rashad
Ayanna p. Said, Happy 15th birthday to my daughter, Joe. She's absolutely amazing. Thank you for helping me celebrate her.
Ebro Darden
Happy birthday, Joe.
Laura Styles
Happy birthday, Big butcher.
Rashad
I don't know what to say. Laura ain't messing with them Australian spiders.
Laura Styles
I'm not the lunatic.
Rashad
Lunatic. The lunatic, it doesn't listen.
Ebro Darden
If your hand was too complicated lose not getting.
Rashad
But all centralized systems are failed. Health care, education, food supply, justice system, etc. Society is in decay because people think that these systems benefit or work for us. False sense of security.
Ebro Darden
Produce your own security. Okay, that's some real end of days talk right there. But I don't disagree completely. But if we can elect individuals that can't be corrupted and we can trust that our tax dollars go to individuals that will manage it, well, maybe some of these systems would be a little bit more sustainable at this current juncture. But y', all, everybody thought it was something to play with. Y' all thought the boogeyman wasn't real. And now here we are.
Laura Styles
That's it.
Rashad
No, there's a couple more. Eric Motion said currently on Fox and Friends. It's story time. They are reading a children's book entitled America, I'm glad you were born.
Ebro Darden
Okay, my point Exactly.
Rashad
The 10 year old, 7 year olds.
Laura Styles
Oh God.
Rashad
And big Buchabee said Laura has a Puerto Rican face, but the cheeks is Venezuelan.
Laura Styles
I'm neither.
Ebro Darden
Yo, ELR man. We appreciate the ELR army. We appreciate everybody hyping and sharing and liking love Y subscribing. We will see you tomorrow morning, love. Have a great day.
Laura Styles
Bye.
Rashad
Yeah, there's some.
Ebro Darden
A couple. Yeah. It's not every. It's not every,
Rashad
but it's not. It's not every jurisdiction.
Ebro Darden
Like, just don't call it a podcast.
This episode brings together hosts Ebro Darden, Laura Stylez, and Peter Rosenberg (with Rashad filling in on production and chat) for their signature blend of pop culture, music commentary, current events, and humorous debate. Key themes include Jay-Z’s “Roots Picnic” freestyle and speculation about a new album, the rising concern over tick-borne illnesses (especially the Lone Star tick), trending gossip about Daphne Joy, Serena Williams’ tennis comeback, current global and political news, and a thoughtful dispatch on mixed-race identity.
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“No matter how hard I try to make this look like an established show, these individuals work against me in every way, shape or form to continue to want to be low budget.” — Ebro (05:00)
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“So why are we spiraling about something that [Tasha K] said as if it's valid?” — Ebro (07:12)
“Debating Hov’s hair is the last thing Drake need to be doing with his time... Bro, you just had colored barrettes in your hair, B.” — Ebro (09:01)
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"Ate a steak dinner... about two in the morning, I woke up, and I was having trouble breathing. A lot of trouble." — Tom Murphy, recounted by Laura/Ebro (29:21)
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On production struggles:
“No matter how hard we try to make it look like we have a high end production here... all they want to do is just be low budget for the rest of their days.” — Ebro (05:00)
On Jay-Z & Drake’s competing summer:
"I thought Drake had the whole road to himself this summer… Surprise!" — Ebro & Laura
On internet gossip:
"So we went from Tasha K being the validator… to DJ Vlad." — Ebro (13:51)
On media literacy:
“If you're really looking, you get to go, okay, these are the things I'm interested in. And [Ground News] tells you who's covering it… and what the slant is.” — Ebro (51:39)
On race in America:
"All of those nuances are cute... In the United States, how the police respond to you and how society responds to you when you show up, that's what you are. Everything else doesn't matter." — Ebro (66:00)
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