117.) Knicks Watch Parties + Is HOV Back? (6/10/26)

Summary

The Ebro, Laura & Rosenberg Show

Ep. 117: Knicks Watch Parties + Is HOV Back?

Date: June 10, 2026
Hosts: Ebro Darden, Laura Stylez, Peter Rosenberg

Overview

This episode of the Ebro, Laura & Rosenberg Show dives deep into NYC culture during the NBA Finals—focusing on wild Knicks watch party scenes, youth-driven mayhem, streaming culture, and debates about fan behavior. The trio also unpacks Jay-Z’s recent moves, suggesting Hov’s return, the competitive dynamic with Nas, the state of live music, and ticket price frustrations for major events. The show’s signature blend of humor, seasoned New York perspective, and real talk continues to anchor their takes.

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Knicks Watch Parties: Chaos, Culture, and Clout

Knicks Fan Antics & Viral Fights

Discussion kicks off [01:16]:

• Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg react to viral videos of fights and wild scenes outside Madison Square Garden (MSG), especially fueled after the Knicks’ recent loss.
• Rosenberg [01:24]: “I saw so many disgusting fights two nights ago.”
• Ebro [02:12]: Suggests some fights are staged by “algorithmic hustlers...put on Spurs jerseys for entertainment.”

Social Commentary on Public Frenzy

• The hosts discuss whether these behaviors are genuinely spontaneous or performative for social media clout.
• Rosenberg [03:17]: Sympathizes with the NYPD’s difficulty managing crowds: “Only 21 arrests...they could only arrest 21 because they were outnumbered.”
• Ebro [04:22]: “This is a basketball game, people. What are we doing?”

Sports Violence & City Memories

• Ebro reminisces [05:00]: About experiencing racist sports violence at games across the country, comparing NYC’s situation to infamous West Coast and Philly sports mayhem.
• Rosenberg [05:49]: Details the notorious reputation: “Phillies...they intentionally throw up on people.”

“Should You Ever Wear the Opposing Jersey?”

• Ebro and Rosenberg debate the etiquette and danger of wearing a visiting team’s jersey in NYC.
• Ebro [06:36]: “If you live in New York City and...show up to the Garden with a Spurs jersey, I wanna hit you with a ‘but’—”
• Ebro pushes back on violence being normalized but admits, “I would never show up to another town wearing sports gear from the opposing team.”

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Youth, Streaming Culture & Mob Mentality

Mob Energy & Social Media Fuel

[10:11]

• Laura: Highlights streaming and “clipping culture,” with kids wilding out for social media bragging rights.
• Rosenberg [10:46]: Points to SideTalk NYC’s viral Knicks “Bing Bong” video as a spark but argues, “It’s not their fault...but that helped escalate a brand, bro.”

Emotional Reaction & City Patterns

• Ebro reflects on decades of unruly city events: “We talk about how crazy New York is all the time. And then when it gets crazy, we’re all surprised.” [14:07]
• Rosenberg [14:19]: Laments: “Could someone try to get a girl’s number at the game? Smoke a joint? Just be normal. Why do you want to break things?”

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Crowd Control, Watch Party Plans & Merch Madness

MSG Security Adjustments

[15:56]

• Ebro reads the city’s latest statement: police are restricting the area, possibly freezing blocks around MSG depending on the crowd.
• Rosenberg [16:26]: Expresses concern about “metal fences” and crowd logic, but Ebro says police “don’t do play by ear.”

Nike Merch Drops—Insider Perks

[17:41]

• Ebro scored Knicks Nike merch for his family, explaining how knowing security and vendors around MSG pays off (in classic New Yorker fashion).
• Laura: “It’s just, you know, good to know security.”

Knicks Watch Party Logistics

[19:47]:

• Discuss watch parties: fun but late, with games tipping at 8:45 PM (leading to folks leaving early to beat traffic).
• Ebro weighs whether he’ll attend, depending on family dinner: “It’ll depend on how I feel at 7 o’clock.”

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Movie Talk: Culture, History & RZA’s Flick

“Killing Castro”—Black & Latino NYC Ties

[22:23]

• Ebro reviews a new film about Fidel Castro’s stay at Harlem’s Hotel Theresa, the CIA’s attempts on his life, and a famous meeting with Malcolm X.
• Ebro: “Not great movie, man,” but praises the story’s NYC context and true-life figures.
• Rosenberg [23:38]: Surprised he never knew about the iconic photo of Malcolm X and Castro.

Recommendations: RZA’s “Spoonful of Chocolate” & Private Screening Theaters

[26:29]

• Hosts discuss Metro’s private theater experience in Chelsea and RZA’s new, grindhouse-inspired film—a “violent snuff film” vibe, according to Ebro.
• Laura [28:12]: Surprised by the gritty film style.

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HOV BACK?—Live Shows, Roots Picnic, and Nas

Jay-Z’s Return & Philly Love

[30:29]

• Rosenberg recaps Jay-Z’s Roots Picnic performance, shocked at how “the Roc was completely Philly.”
• Ebro [31:10]: “Philly, Jersey, New York should always be collabing...but New York can’t even get Bronx and Brooklyn to collab good enough.”
• They discuss how collaborative movements differ by region.

Roots x Nas Concerts, Industry Competition

[32:49]

• Jay-Z crushed the Roots show; Nas is set for a major LA Roots collab—are they competing?
• Laura: “Let us enjoy the moment.”
• Rosenberg [33:35]: “We’ll talk about Drake and Kendrick till I’m dead, but I bring up Jay-Z/Nas and everyone gets all, ‘oh, we don’t want to bring these things up!’”

Jay-Z Tour Dates & Is a New Album Coming?

[36:22]

• Laura and Ebro on Hov’s upcoming anniversary shows at Yankee Stadium, SoFi, and Paris’ Stade de France.
• Laura [36:22]: “He’s definitely dropping something.”
• Ebro on tour strategy: “If you want to see him, he’ll do multiple dates in tourist hubs.”

Ticket Prices—Industry Greed

[49:29]

• All hosts rant about insane floor ticket prices ($1,000+), artist and industry greed, and Live Nation’s profit focus.
• Rosenberg [49:29]: “I love hov, I love Beyonce...but I’m disgusted by the ticket price thing.”

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Quick News & Culture Rundown

• MSG Watch Parties Back [52:24]: Trump won’t attend next game after being booed.
• Snoop Dogg Gets Key to Long Beach [53:36]: All agree it’s overdue—“He IS Long Beach.”
• Vince Staples’ New Album ‘Crybaby’ [53:49]: Ebro recommends for fans of alternative/punk-leaning hip-hop.

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The “Guru” Relationship Segment

[55:03]

• Listener writes in about an 8-year relationship post-infidelity, where communication, emotional connection, and job stability are all struggling.
• Rosenberg [59:29]: “Unstable is unstable and doesn’t make women generally feel secure.”
• Laura [61:01]: “Everything you gave us doesn’t sound good...I don’t think this relationship is for you anymore.”
• Ebro emphasizes: “Have a conversation. If he won’t...that is the conversation.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Ebro [14:07]: “We talk about how crazy New York is all the time. And then when it gets crazy, we’re all surprised, but we’ve all just been putting out this energy.”
• Rosenberg [03:17]: "I truly sympathize with the police...I don't know how you're expected to do what you need to do here."
• Rosenberg [49:29]: “I’m disgusted by the ticket price thing. Y’all are greedy as hell.”
• Laura [53:46]: “He (Snoop) IS Long Beach.”
• Ebro [61:01]: “Ultimately up to you...But everything you gave us, it just doesn’t sound good.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• NYC/Knicks Watch Party Fights & Culture: 01:16 - 15:00
• Streaming Clout, Mob Mentality: 10:11 - 15:00
• MSG Security, Merch, and Watch Parties: 15:56 - 19:47
• Movie Talk: ‘Killing Castro’, RZA Film: 22:23 - 28:35
• Jay-Z/Nas/Roots Competitive Discourse: 30:29 - 38:18
• Ticket Price Rant/LN Industry Talk: 49:29 - 52:24
• Snoop & Vince Staples Shout-Outs: 53:36 - 54:15
• The Guru Relationship Advice: 55:03 - 61:14

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Tone & Takeaways

• Language & Tone: Fast-paced, irreverent, full of NY slang and deep-cut local/cultural references; humor threaded through serious social commentary.
• The hosts highlight:
  • NYC pride and exasperation at its chaos
  • The double-edged sword of viral culture and event hype
  • Genuine concern for youth, safety, and community
  • Critical eye on celebrity, music, and media industry economics
  • Keeping it real—whether it’s love life struggles or public spectacle

Whether Knicks fan, hip-hop head, or culture junkie, this episode captures the pulse of New York right now with humor, history, and heat.

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Transcript

[Laura Rosenberg]

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[Ebro Darden]

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[Laura Rosenberg]

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[Ebro Darden]

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[Ebro Darden]

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[Ebro Darden]

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[Promotional Voice / Announcer]

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[Ebro Darden]

Hello.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Good morning.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay, er, Rosenberg here for another program on Wednesday am, slated to be very hot and humid today in the nyc and tomorrow even worse.

[Riz]

Yeah, two days. It sounds like. Of like bad.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. And then there's like afternoon showers. We can get the. You know, the. Maybe the down. Maybe we get the downpour. Maybe we just get the thunder.

[Riz]

You mean. You mean on these two days?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Riz]

And then Saturday though, like high of 80something and sunny, immaculate, all sun.

[Ebro Darden]

They said that's good. Something to look forward to. 8, 4, 4. ELR. ELR 3. Trying to figure out Knicks fans. What are the vibes, man? What are the vibes?

[Riz]

What are the vibes? I saw our buddy Kaz went up to msg, burn some sage. Burn some sage. So obviously they felt there was a reset necessary. Listen, I'm not gonna hold you. I don't know if it was based on influencers who were intentionally rebel rousing. I don't know if it was just spurs fans. Yo, once I watched one video of a Spurs fan getting attacked yesterday because I only do Twitter when I'm at my radio station. Yo, my whole timeline, bro, I saw so many disgusting fights two nights ago.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I saw like two.

[Riz]

Oh, bro, it's so many. I saw at least. I saw at least seven different, like, big kind of fracases happening.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, well, so of the ones that I first saw, it was all like people speculating, of course, that they were. They were not spurs fans. They were people who put on spurs jerseys for algorithmic entertainment and said, we're

[Riz]

gonna walk down the street and see what happens.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Riz]

And they found out what happened. Or.

[Ebro Darden]

Or they were in on it. Like, it looked like a raucous. And it was. That's how I took it. Because some of them, I was like, is anything actually happening? Are they just tearing a jersey off a kid?

[Riz]

Yeah, that. Well, I saw that one too.

[Ebro Darden]

You know what I mean?

[Riz]

Where it was like never thrown.

[Ebro Darden]

It was like nobody. And then there were somewhere. It was like a standoff with the NYPD involved.

[Riz]

And then I saw one where an old. An older black guy, maybe like slate fish, 50s, 60, maybe, was getting basically chased by A mob in his spurs jersey. He did not give Algorithm Hustler energy.

[Ebro Darden]

No, I saw that one.

[Riz]

Gave Unk.

[Ebro Darden]

Gave.

[Riz]

Gave Unk is getting chased down the street.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I saw an older white guy just walking, and then he was like. He looks. Takes another look and then starts running and then starts going. And they start going after him. And they catch up to him, too.

[Riz]

I. Yeah, it's hard to. It's hard to really get your hands around exactly what it was. But I will say it's one of the. It is one of the days. This is. This is so me trolling the people who are already apt to get mad at me. It is one of those days, though, when I truly sympathize with the police. I looked around at what the police's situation was, and I'm like, I don't know how you're expected to do what you need to do here. Like, this is gonna be hard. It's just me. Hard work. Well, for me, only 21 arrests, which to me just says Ebro. They could only arrest 21 because they were so outnumbered. They couldn't even do the bad shit that they normally do because the numbers were too bad. You couldn't do it. You have to just, like, try to play a game of keeping people at bay.

[Ebro Darden]

I think also, too, it was like, first of all, I don't think the numbers are too bad. So I don't.

[Riz]

You don't. You don't think so?

[Ebro Darden]

No. The police. The police have systems and ways to make sure that I've seen some things. So if they really wanted to turn up, they could have.

[Riz]

I don't think they really.

[Ebro Darden]

And I don't think that's what they really wanted. Like, I think they were really like,

[Riz]

let's try to keep it.

[Ebro Darden]

You guys are talking crazy, and it feels like something can happen.

[Riz]

And a lot of you are very young.

[Ebro Darden]

You're all very young, and this is going to turn into more than we needed to turn into right now. We're trying to, like.

[Riz]

Are you saying people actually did what they were supposed to do?

[Ebro Darden]

Kept the temperature? That's what I saw.

[Riz]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

That's what I thought. That's what.

[Riz]

You were actually giving more of the benefit of the doubt than I did.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, I saw, like, hey, where. This is a basketball game, people. What are we doing?

[Riz]

And we're in New York, and we know what happens. It's hot. It's summertime. It's teenagers. They're all idiots, and they're doing the things.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. So there's that part of it. Then there's, like, my brain. I've been around so much sports violence in my life.

[Riz]

Tell us about this.

[Ebro Darden]

This is just like.

[Riz]

We've been doing this 20 years. We didn't know you were a sports violence vet.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, no, not. Maybe not around, but seeing. Heard.

[Riz]

Well, you're from the West Coast.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, so Raiders games.

[Riz]

The filth of the planet.

[Ebro Darden]

Sandia Chargers. Don't say that. Don't act like crazy. Things. I've been in things at jets games, just walking around and people want to get racial.

[Riz]

At a. I'm sure.

[Ebro Darden]

At a Jets.

[Riz]

I'm sure you're.

[Ebro Darden]

By the way, I'm here supporting the jets, and they're still. You're here supporting the Jets.

[Riz]

Why are you being racist?

[Ebro Darden]

Why are you yelling the N word

[Riz]

at me for sure.

[Ebro Darden]

At a tailgate where we're eating chicken

[Riz]

wings, but we're just not. What we're not going to do is pretend that anything's on that Dodger. Giant.

[Ebro Darden]

Raider.

[Riz]

No, Raiders, Chargers, Charger. It's.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it's crazy, but also. But also Philly games. Let's not act like Philly games aren't crazy.

[Riz]

Listen, it's Philly. Filthy. You know, that's the word. Phillies, they throw up on people. They intentionally throw up on people.

[Ebro Darden]

What?

[Riz]

We've seen it. Never seen.

[Ebro Darden]

No.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Laura, I never want to see.

[Ebro Darden]

But. But anyway, I bring all of this up, right? To. To just. I bring all of this up to just capture the fact that. So you would think that these things wouldn't happen or. And aren't supposed to happen, but they have been happening in and around sports for a while. And so people show up to New York City, a big tourist destination, or they live in New York City. Look, if you live in New York City and you. And you thought, like, I'm gonna show up to the Garden with a Spurs jersey on, I want to hit you with a butt.

[Riz]

No, for sure.

[Ebro Darden]

Like, if you're from here and you're like, yeah, tonight's tonight.

[Riz]

I'm sure. By the way, I don't care where you're from. If you did that, congratulations.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, no. If you're a tourist to New York and you were like, hey, I'm going to travel to New York to support my spurs team.

[Riz]

And you.

[Ebro Darden]

You're not knowing that. Yeah, I've heard New York gets crazy, but I'm be around the Garden. It's gonna be like, I'm gonna just get on. I'm gonna go from my hotel to the Garden. I'm not gonna be in it.

[Riz]

Sounds like everything you're saying spells that bud.

[Ebro Darden]

Damn. No, but you wouldn't think that I couldn't go to a city.

[Riz]

So now you're hearing it. That's the button. Yeah, it works.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, this doesn't sound like a good idea, but can I just.

[Ebro Darden]

Can I just throw? No, but it, but it. But that's my point. It should. You shouldn't be. You shouldn't feel like. And this is normal people. I always feel like this. But you shouldn't like. I would never show up to another town wearing sports gear from the opposing, opposing team. I would never do it. But once again, I grew up in Northern California, so my.

[Riz]

I would.

[Ebro Darden]

My mode is different. A regular person doesn't think I have to be worried about real violence.

[Riz]

And they.

[Ebro Darden]

Because I showed up to watch sports.

[Riz]

No, they.

[Ebro Darden]

In another town, they shouldn't.

[Riz]

And if it were in December because the Knicks played the spurs three times this year and if you showed, nothing would have happened. You know what I'm saying? But if you're paying attention to what's been going on, I probably would have said there's a lot of people outside, they look very young. But here's my issue.

[Ebro Darden]

And oh, by the way, those of you wearing spurs jersey, like the older man you say chase down the street, take jersey off.

[Riz]

Yeah, it's easy. It's a fix.

[Ebro Darden]

You took it off, take it off. Here, here, have it. Burn it.

[Riz]

Matter of fact, I hate this.

[Ebro Darden]

Me too.

[Riz]

I'm gonna fight for the team. Like what I pretend anything. I hate Jews. I hate anything to get me out of the situation I'm doing. But I will say this. If you have a young person in your house between like 16 and 23, four, and they're like not a big basketball fan and, and they're just going out, they're like, yeah, I'm just, I'm gonna just go down around the city and you know, they're kind of an asshole. Let's just be honest, you know, they're kind of an a hole.

[Ebro Darden]

Some people are in denial about that kid fact.

[Riz]

Tell them not to just, just keep their ass at home. Like I do wonder that I understand the mob mentality and what it does to kids. But I just want to say if I raise a child who were in that situation and were to just latch onto it and do this sort of filth, I'd be so friggin disappointed. Like that is just said, it's still just trash, man. Like we were guys, we were all around crazy Craziness. As teenagers, we all had moments where like, oh, it's going, it's on right now. And I venture to say that unless something were to have physically happen to us to draw us in, even at 16 years old, we were like, oh man, they doing some dumb ass stuff right there. You know what I mean? Like that is what your nature is like I'm not going to be a part of this.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'm not getting stabbed.

[Ebro Darden]

No one thinks so.

[Riz]

I'm not going to rip a friggin sign out of. You see that video where they kept trying to rip the sign and then one young guy comes over.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Is that in Bryant Park?

[Riz]

Yeah, they're in Bryant park and they're trying to rip us either a street sign or a lamp post.

[Ebro Darden]

Was the sign bus sign?

[Riz]

A bus. And they're walking the sign back and forth trying to rip it out of the ground. And eventually another younger ish guy comes over and is like, yo guys, can we not just try to destroy our city right now? Stood ended up fighting like 10 people just because he was telling them let's not destroy.

[Ebro Darden]

But you do realize you this is a city where people, they, they, they surf on train tops and they die and they continue to do it and film themselves like so there's also just a history. Well, there's also just part of the New York City thing that there are individuals that just want to do crazy ish. Which is. Go ahead, Lua. But I was going to transition into this MSG statement. But go ahead. Well, I was just gonna say also, what's also adding to this is the streaming and clipping culture which I think a lot of these kids are doing. They're just doing this stuff for the gram. Yeah, for the stream.

[Riz]

It's specifically making it worse and it's specifically. It should be real. This isn't a diss to them, but it is the side talk culture. Yeah, the side talk video. Don't you want to be with the Knicks that started. No, it's it that helped escalate a brand, bro.

[Ebro Darden]

No, I don't blame side.

[Riz]

No, it's not, I'm not. I know they made a funny video but there are idiots out there who are like I want to bing bong and I want to do all this.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, that's more Lou. What Lou saying if it wasn't side

[Riz]

talk, it might be something else.

[Ebro Darden]

What already existed before moment.

[Riz]

We can't pretend like that wasn't a

[Ebro Darden]

big moment because it was funny and entertaining. But can we.

[Riz]

I'm not Coming at side.

[Ebro Darden]

I know, I know. But I guess this is my problem. Why are we acting like we haven't lived in this town for multiple decades and seen all of these crazy people existing? I've been at the. I've been at the Puerto Rican Day Parade, which is this weekend, seen crazy ish. I've been on Eastern Parkway. I've seen crazy ish. I just would be walking near Penn

[Riz]

Station and see craziness. That doesn't make it cool or. All right.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm not saying they were ruining yesterday.

[Riz]

Two days ago was a day of ruining. Was a day of ruining it.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, so. So. So before Trump came and they made the no fly zone or walking zone, whatever, and put up gates and did all of this nonsense let. We also are acting like it wasn't just the week before that they moved the watch party from the Garden due to security issues over to Radio City. Remember that happened?

[Riz]

That was that their actual logic at the time?

[Ebro Darden]

It was like, yo, this is chaotic. We're gonna move this away from Radio City, away from the Garden, over to Radio City to kind of like create some space. Then Mom, Donnie and the Garden, everybody was like, no, we figured out a ticketed, kind of controlled way to do this at the Garden. But on right outside the Garden, Laura, they have the, like, parade barricade so that people can't spill into the street, right. And get run over by cars because people can't control themselves. Guys, what team was it that won a chip and they had to grease the polls so people would.

[Riz]

Philly.

[Laura Rosenberg]

What do you think?

[Riz]

That's what I said. It's Philly.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, my God. Did they do that? They greased.

[Riz]

That wasn't the first time. That wasn't the only time, but it was.

[Ebro Darden]

But I guess I'm feeling. I'm feeling like we're acting like this behavior is abnormal. And what I'm saying, as much as

[Riz]

they didn't win, that's the part it was Game three that is unusual. It's usually game seven. The city turns into animals.

[Guest Narrator / Announcer]

But would you agree?

[Riz]

Game three, it's two one, bro. Like, we got games to play.

[Ebro Darden]

And I've been watching New Yorkers for the last several weeks on social media. And as you talk, yo, if they get to the finals, man, we burn in the city. Declaring they're going to burn the city down. Tear it up if we get there. Yeah, no, they're fulfilling the prophecies. This is all stuff that has been articulated multiple times.

[Riz]

I don't think we really disagree about anything. No, I'm not surprised.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm not surprised. I'm sitting here acting like, hey, believe what people are going to say they're going to do. Also, remember the city you're in. You're in New York. Like, we all brag and joke about how crazy shit is. And then when your shit gets crazy, everybody goes, man, I mean, this is so great, bro. We talk about how crazy New York is all the time.

[Riz]

You're not wrong about that.

[Ebro Darden]

And then when it gets crazy, we're all surprised, but we've all just been putting out this energy.

[Riz]

Can it just be, like, still annoyed? I'm just annoyed. I'm not surprised. I'm not, like, I'm so disappointed.

[Ebro Darden]

It's like, y' all are.

[Riz]

Y' all are weird. Can you just party? Could someone try to get a girl's number at the game? Because someone, like, smoke a joint. Like, this game's fun. I'm a bum a cigarette. Talk to this girl. What happened? Like, just be normal. Why do you want to break things? I just. The rage, the teenage rage. I didn't have the rage.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't even think it's rage age. It's just like. It's like Issa. Not Issa. Selassie. Selassie will put up blocks and just knock them down because it's gonna knock them down.

[Riz]

That's literally what you're supposed to do, right?

[Ebro Darden]

And so. And I'm saying the reason I made that comp. Is because some people haven't matured. They just like to break things. Watch me break this window. I'm gonna break this bottle. Watch me.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'm 22.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes.

[Riz]

They're not all 15, Laura. That's exactly right. Some of them are definitely in their 20s.

[Ebro Darden]

No. 30s. 30s. I'm a jump on the top of a taxicab. I'm gonna climb on the top of this awning and wave a flag. I'm gonna.

[Riz]

No, listen. My friend Chauncey, who's now a brilliant professor and my daughter's godfather and the best human alive at 14, was an A hole, wanted to say all kinds of curse in front of his parents and break things in the garage, but then he turned, like, 16 and it was over and never happened.

[Ebro Darden]

Some people don't. You just said the other day on the program people mature at different. At different paces. You just said that. You literally. That came out your mouth.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And some just don't.

[Riz]

I, I, I know, I know, but I bet there's people. I met babies, by the way.

[Ebro Darden]

There's people who still scale buildings in the middle of the night.

[Riz]

Well, come on.

[Ebro Darden]

Spray paint their name on walls.

[Riz]

Yeah, well, social media makes it hot. Super.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, Even before social media, just because I want to get my name out there, I want people to see me. I want to be seen. Like that's a. Sorry.

[Riz]

All right, so where are we at with tonight though?

[Ebro Darden]

What's the situation? Let's watch. Let's look at the little statement. This is the most recent statement we had. Mayor, mom, Donnie and the police are basically saying that they're blocking off the area even regardless of, you know, everybody said it was Trump. It was this was that. Now they're keeping the play. But this is probably because they saw all of the chaos, regardless of things, trying to be calm, say, you know what, we got to block off the whole area.

[Riz]

What I don't like about it, the only. And what do I know but what on the surface, what I don't like about it is that like those, the fences, those like metal fences.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, I don't know if metal fence,

[Riz]

but they say frozen zone.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, that just means that they're not that you know how they use police to block.

[Riz]

So you think it'll just be blocks or blocked off by cops.

[Ebro Darden]

Blocks are blocked off by cops standing there. Maybe it's walkable, maybe it's not. Maybe you can't gather around msg. I don't know.

[Riz]

Maybe they'll play it by ear and see where things are at.

[Ebro Darden]

No, I don't know. They were. Police don't do a play by ear.

[Riz]

Well, I. The other day though, they told us you couldn't walk at 4 o'. Clock. You wouldn't be able to go. And I walked on 35th from between seventh and eighth. I walked down to the train, the Ace at sixth and I walked, but

[Ebro Darden]

it was at 34th. Was the.

[Riz]

No, I think it was 35th actually.

[Ebro Darden]

Really?

[Riz]

And there were cops standing there. But at that point it was 6, 30, 7 o'. Clock. They still were letting people. I don't know. But.

[Ebro Darden]

But man. And also, maybe they make these statements, but they're, you know, still cool. But they don't want people rushing into the area and it gives them a reason to shut things down if people get too crazy.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's what I think too. Are they do. Are they going back to Brian park or.

[Ebro Darden]

No, I haven't seen Mom. Donnie talked about there being some planned ticketed MSG watch party opportunities.

[Laura Rosenberg]

All right.

[Riz]

Yeah, there's a few of those.

[Ebro Darden]

So, you know, I saw some Nike trucks around The Garden yesterday, shout to the, to the Nike team. I got some Knicks merch for the family. But they had. They were like, had these little Nike Knicks things where people were just lined up for hours.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes, they were selling merch.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, selling Knicks Nike merch around the Garden.

[Riz]

And you skipped the line.

[Ebro Darden]

I didn't even get in there. Skipping the line would mean I got in line.

[Riz]

You made a phone call.

[Ebro Darden]

No, I just walked up and I happened to. Knew some people and they were like, here, you want a couple. You want a shirt?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, that's nice.

[Riz]

You just knew people who had the.

[Ebro Darden]

Had the merchant holes, you know, big holes.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

There's people we've known. You know them too. They would have gave you something.

[Riz]

They were just running the truck.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, they were the ones managing the whole situation.

[Riz]

So you basically got the Ebro super VIP airport treatment at the Nike truck.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, it's also. But it's also. I'm over there every day, so I know all the parking people. I know all the Amtrak police. I know all of the. Because I'm. I go to lunch. I'm walking over around the Garden all the time.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And it's just, you know, it was good to know security.

[Riz]

Ebro's day just sounds like he's in an 80s sitcom. I know all the Amtrak police. Hey, Sergeant Pop. Yo, what's up, Steve? What time's the 3:05 coming? 3:05.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right.

[Riz]

I thought so. That's Ebro walking around that station.

[Ebro Darden]

That's my life now.

[Riz]

You know what I mean?

[Ebro Darden]

I just hang outside in New York and see people.

[Riz]

And now there's a big payoff. Look at you.

[Ebro Darden]

I got some. I got some merch.

[Riz]

Was it though, like a brunch in Jersey shirt or was it a specific Knick shirt?

[Ebro Darden]

One said always Knicks, 20, 26.

[Riz]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

I think another one. I don't know what was on.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You got that for Issa?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, well, Issa got. No, these were for Jazz, actually.

[Riz]

Why? Why?

[Ebro Darden]

Because Issa got a hat.

[Riz]

No, no. Why Jazz getting a shirt?

[Ebro Darden]

Because she's from Queens.

[Riz]

She likes. She's sleepy time bobos.

[Laura Rosenberg]

There's no.

[Riz]

There's no shirt.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Let her have her shirt.

[Riz]

What's to sleep in?

[Ebro Darden]

She. She's a new mom. I get, you know.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes, let her sleep.

[Ebro Darden]

I told yo, look, yo tonight. I was like, yo, I'm going to. I'm going to a watch party tonight.

[Riz]

Are you. You're going outside?

[Ebro Darden]

I think I'm going to watch party tonight.

[Riz]

What did she say?

[Ebro Darden]

It'll depend on how I feel at 7 o'. Clock. Because I could get home for dinner, have dinner with the family and be

[Riz]

like, yeah, the problem. Here's the. Here's the problem.

[Laura Rosenberg]

What'd she say, though? She was like, okay, babe, go ahead.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. She was like, what do you want for dinner?

[Riz]

By the way, there's levels to these queens, girls and Fraud. I mean, Natalie doesn't watch a game the entire regular season. And she's up screaming at the TV now, lover. Fraud. Okay, Shawn. No, I call it the Shawnee. The Shawnee way of basketball.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Let us enjoy the moment.

[Riz]

Fraud. But then Jazz took it to the next level with literally just went to bed. We've never seen this halftime, by the way. They're up 7. It was a thrilling second quarter. Good night.

[Ebro Darden]

But by the way, now that I think about it, even when we try to watch games together, she's on her phone. She's not paying attention. She's like, babe, what happened? Oh, are they winning? I'm like, TV's right there.

[Riz]

You can know the score. The scores stay. They keep the score on there.

[Guest Narrator / Announcer]

This is the beat of 250, and we're celebrating Black Music Month, a celebration of the legacy, creativity, and global influence of black music. Today we celebrate Big Mama Thornton, a powerhouse whose voice helped shape blues, rhythm and blues and rock and roll. Before rock became a global sound, its roots lived in black music traditions born from struggle, survival and spirit. Big Mama Thornton stood at the center of that evolution. In 1952, she recorded the original Hound Dog, years before Elvis Presley made it famous. Her version was raw, fearless, commanding and full of attitude. Big Mama Thornton didn't just sing the blues, she lived them. Her influence can still be heard through generations of artists, from Little Richard and Tina Turner to Prince and Lenny Kravitz. Today, during Black Music Month, we honor one of music's true pioneers and architects of American music.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Black Music Month Amplified Voices is sponsored by aarp.

[Riz]

So here's the problem with the watch party, though. It's really fun, but the games are tipping around 8:45. You're not. We left. I'm gonna keep it real. We left and watched the final seven minutes at home. We left at the end of the third.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Riz]

Beat the traffic. So we got home in 20, watched on the phone in the car, made it home for the final seven.

[Ebro Darden]

I told some people I'll come shout out to my man set free I may put. He was up here on the show. That's in Brooklyn. Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So I'm gonna make that.

[Ebro Darden]

Do me a favor, hit me with

[Riz]

the button real quick. Congratulations.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, last night, Last night I was out and about. I went and saw Killing Castro.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, how was that?

[Ebro Darden]

Shout out to E. Rivera, our guy, Omar Pecos.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes, yes. Renee McLain I'm so curious about.

[Ebro Darden]

Chino was there. Ooh, so cool. And you know, it's. It. Yo, the movie's great. You know the story, right. It's basically about when Fidel and came to the United States to speak of the u. N. In 1960.

[Riz]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

And he couldn't get hotels. They wouldn't let him stay at any hotels in Manhattan. And there was a black owned hotel, it's Hotel Teresa, which is near the Apollo on 125th Street. And they let him stay there. And it's basically a story about how the CIA was trying to kill him and the FBI was just trying to monitor him. And he had a meeting with Malcolm X at the hotel. You know those pictures of Fidel and Malcolm X, which is a real thing. And so that's what the movies about. But then they didn't.

[Riz]

By the way, I'm not super familiar with that picture.

[Ebro Darden]

You've never seen Fidel?

[Riz]

I'm gonna tell you right now, when I look it up a bit.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah. I'm so curious to see.

[Ebro Darden]

Not great movie, man.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Where can people watch?

[Ebro Darden]

Is Tribeca Film Festival going on?

[Riz]

Not yet. I don't think so.

[Ebro Darden]

Why? It was. This was like a Tribeca thing.

[Riz]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

So I saw it down at BMCC last night.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I wonder if it's gonna be like, you know how it hits? Like the Angelica's, the independent movie theater.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know how this is rolling.

[Laura Rosenberg]

All right.

[Riz]

Oh, it's on now.

[Ebro Darden]

So there it goes. Because it did definitely said Tribeca Film and Festival. But I was like, no, I don't

[Guest Narrator / Announcer]

really know this picture.

[Ebro Darden]

That's cool.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I want to watch this.

[Ebro Darden]

Interestingly enough. And I'm glad you said that. Rosenberg, one of the, I don't know, one of the guys that is a producer on the film and had been working on the script and brought Ethan after having it for or like working trying to get it done for like eight years. I heard him on stage talking about, you know, being from New York and not knowing this story and it. And I have been seeing this picture. Mine, like feel like my entire life.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Same.

[Ebro Darden]

And. And the guys, I watch a lot

[Riz]

of Malcolm X stuff. I. I don't really.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I. I specifically remember Castro's visit in Harlem.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, well, so what's interesting is the guy.

[Riz]

In fact, I think the movie's made up this landing to me.

[Ebro Darden]

The. The guy who did the film. I'm sorry, I don't remember your name, sir, but.

[Riz]

Well, it's already too late. Don't even say sorry anymore. His Caesar. You mean the actual director?

[Ebro Darden]

He said he saw Colin Kaepernick wearing a T shirt with that picture of Fidel on it. He was like, what is that? Then went and did research and was like, how come I don't know this story? I'm from New York. This story needs to be told. And then worked on the film.

[Riz]

That's crazy. All right. I'm in good company.

[Ebro Darden]

Right.

[Riz]

I'm also from new.

[Ebro Darden]

But that's why I'm bringing it up is because it's like you're not from New York and you didn't. I didn't expect you to know the story. This right here?

[Riz]

Yeah, no, I've seen it now. I.

[Ebro Darden]

And there's a couple others from this. This session there. And so they recreate this in the film.

[Riz]

The leather trench that Malcolm's wearing is pretty fire.

[Ebro Darden]

And so, yeah, no, great film, great film, great time. And shout to our guy Omar, who invited me there. I wasn't going to after party. No, no. But I saw Pegas and Gabby last night.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Nice.

[Ebro Darden]

And Lenny S. It was the cool kids party.

[Riz]

I don't get invited.

[Ebro Darden]

But it was.

[Riz]

It was one day though. I think by the time I turned 60. I'm good.

[Ebro Darden]

It was like 200 people in it.

[Promotional Voice / Announcer]

Well, I know.

[Riz]

That's why I'm double not getting journalists.

[Ebro Darden]

It was like 70 year old Tribeca film enthusiasts. It was that kind of crowd.

[Riz]

Right?

[Ebro Darden]

Like a real filmy film.

[Riz]

Right. And you, who last week didn't know

[Ebro Darden]

the word when I did. What's the word?

[Riz]

It was so obvious. I can't think of what it's like.

[Ebro Darden]

Movie. Yeah, but you act like you knew the word at the time when Riz was here.

[Riz]

Of course.

[Ebro Darden]

Cinema file.

[Riz]

It was a cinephile. It was cinefy. You think I was acting like I knew the word. You were like, cinephile.

[Ebro Darden]

I never heard that word.

[Riz]

You were off, right, Laura?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Riz]

He never heard the term cinephile. He was like, Rizzo's like, I'm a big cinephile. Whatever. He was like, I'm sorry, I have to stop the interview. What do you mean? What is this cinephile? Rizza was like, bong, bong. Are you retarded? He didn't understand what he wrote. He's like, I'm very into movies.

[Ebro Darden]

No, well, you couldn't remember right now, so shut down. But by the way, speaking of movies, what is it? Spoonful of Chocolate? Rza. Did you guys see it?

[Riz]

Yeah, I didn't see it yet.

[Ebro Darden]

Nah, that movie's Fire, bro.

[Riz]

Really?

[Ebro Darden]

I went to the thing after he was here. I went over and supported him at the Metro. Have you guys been to the Metro, Man?

[Laura Rosenberg]

No.

[Riz]

So after we talked about it, I looked it up and I actually thought about. For something. I thought about us trying to go. But it looks awesome.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it was great. No, that. That whatever. Where you get a bunch of friends and y' all get.

[Riz]

You can spend. Like, it ends up costing a bit because you got to pay to rent the theater. And then it's like per person for food. So it'll end up cost you. It's an end up being a night where you spend a couple hundred person. Okay, but like this weekend, if we wanted to go see Michael, I could say ebro, bring the fam. You bring the fam, I bring the fam. We could get a theater for 12. We could have the kids there with us, not worry about them being loud. And it's our own theater for 12 with food in Chelsea right here.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Riz]

And they have mad movies you can pick from. You can basically pick your movie and have the theater.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's cool.

[Riz]

And you get. And they have a couple different.

[Ebro Darden]

And they have a dope little bar. It's dope.

[Riz]

It's out of dope.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it's very dope. But anyway, Riz's movie, which is streaming now, and if you missed our convo, you can check that on the ELR page and please subscribe. And if you missed it, well, that's why you missed it, because you weren't subscribed. But. But definitely go check it. It's.

[Riz]

I want to see. I want to see it.

[Ebro Darden]

It's. If it feels snuffy. Sorry, Violent snuff film. Like a snuff.

[Riz]

It feels like a porn where they kill the girl.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's what a snuff film is.

[Ebro Darden]

I know, but it's. It's got. That's why I said it has some of that. It has some of that energy.

[Riz]

Bro's been loose this week.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it has some of that energy. I didn't say porn.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I just said snuff is an illegal

[Riz]

film where they kill the person.

[Ebro Darden]

But you know how it has that texture.

[Riz]

No, I've never watched a snuff film me, bro.

[Ebro Darden]

No, you've never seen that. Where they have. It's like the grainy, like.

[Riz]

I know what you're trying to say. Yeah, I know what you're trying to say. It feels like. Is it sort of like what Tarantino did with Grindhouse?

[Ebro Darden]

Exactly that.

[Riz]

There you go.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Let's.

[Riz]

Let's go with that.

[Ebro Darden]

But it. But yeah. So you feel. It's very Tarantino. It has that feel alternative with a

[Riz]

producer on it, you know? Yes, always.

[Ebro Darden]

But I don't want to give away too much. Okay. Because I feel like that'll kind of ruin the whole thing. And I appreciate when Rizza here, he didn't give away this couple of pieces.

[Riz]

Really. There's some. There's some things in there that.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, just the kind of underlying theme of the entire film.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Riz]

In Teresa. I'm interested in.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Interesting.

[Riz]

Interesting. Don't. I'm. I have a question for you.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Riz]

Why did Kwame catch as many strays as he did in hip hop?

[Ebro Darden]

You mean with the fucking polka dots?

[Riz]

No, I mean yesterday I was having a little Neptune's kick at the gym, and I ended up on Cross the Border. How the hell the Phillies most wanted have the nerve to say my hands held more bricks than Kwame. Touch more bricks than Kwame. Philly's the most wanted said that.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't even know why this is on the top of your mind. Yeah, I'm more stuck on why. How did this even just. We get.

[Riz]

Yesterday. I thought about it.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know.

[Riz]

Hey, I want to ask you, bro.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't feel Cheap shot. That's cheap shot. Like, why May doesn't deserve that.

[Riz]

No. And he had a great career. Like, he continued to produce.

[Ebro Darden]

No, he had hits.

[Riz]

Hits and producers.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. No. So the Kwame slander really starts with Baby Big.

[Riz]

He just. You're. You know what? And people are weak and they.

[Ebro Darden]

And they just piled on.

[Riz]

Someone cool said something. It's like, oh, we can also make fun.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right. You could pile.

[Riz]

But. But sorry. Phillies most wanted. You don't just get to say everything

[Ebro Darden]

loose before Philly's most wanted wants to come on the show and have a sit down about it.

[Riz]

You know, they're already mad because there was all that. The big Philly list last week. They were already like, where the.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, and so before we have to have a full discussion about it, we should all be happy that Rosenberg was listening to Philly's. What do you mean that. Why was in your dis. That's in your rotation.

[Riz]

I. I hadn't thought about it in a Long time. That. That's such a weird net.

[Ebro Darden]

But all of it, all of this is helping Philly's most wanted. Excuse me, Lou. No, but it doesn't matter.

[Riz]

I was just paying attention. Well, listen, here's the thing about. I didn't get to talk to you guys about Jay Z. The illest thing about the Jay Z roots thing, to me, my favorite part about it was just that he leaned so hard into the Philly part of it. Like, I never thought about the fact that the Rock was completely Philly. Like, I never really processed. Like, he really just put on Philly completely.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, but I also thought too. But so I've thought about this. I'm the other way.

[Riz]

I've always, always been like, that's interesting that he went so hard for Philly.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, no, not interesting. Made sense because Philly has such dopam sees and is known for some of the dopest MCs, right? And when Hov was like, Nama build out a thing.

[Riz]

Imma go get the guys.

[Ebro Darden]

And geographically speaking, I've always thought it was a fail that New York, Philly, Boston aren't closer linked to create like inertia the same way like Atlanta and Miami or Houston and Atlanta. Click up.

[Riz]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

To create a movement, like a geographical kind of move.

[Riz]

Particularly Philly and New York, but particularly.

[Ebro Darden]

I always thought it was a fail. It's like 90, like, like Jersey, Philly, New York should always be collabing.

[Riz]

Yeah, it was a very neat.

[Ebro Darden]

But New York has a Bronx in the Bronx and Brooklyn can't even collab good enough.

[Riz]

Correct.

[Ebro Darden]

You know what I'm saying? Like, we can't, you know, Harlem and Queens can't even click up good enough.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Very different.

[Riz]

It felt really.

[Ebro Darden]

I know, but I'm just saying, like.

[Riz]

No, listen, think about it. Two years ago, Freeway and Petey were doing a one EP with me at the In Cipher at the Roots picnic in front of like a hundred people. That's what he was doing at the Roots picnic.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, both of them.

[Riz]

And then this year they were. How many years ago? I think was two years ago.

[Ebro Darden]

Two years.

[Riz]

And then this year they were Shout

[Ebro Darden]

to Quest Love and Shawn G. And everybody over there that has been on the Roots Picnic creation since, you know, forever Philly dudes that have made something that even Jay Z. And I think this is. That's the other thing that, with the Jay Z thing down in Philly that I think is amazing is when you create things for the right reasons and you maintain them for the real cultural reasons that you do them and they sustain and they just become like a part of culture. Like, that's. I love that.

[Riz]

You mean for the. You're talking about the Roots and the Roots as a. And then what about. And then what about June 27th? They have the big NAS show in LA, right? That I would have loved to get to go to. It is funny, by the way, that the Roots in Nas literally have something big in la, like, three weeks after the Roots and Jay Z do something really big.

[Ebro Darden]

And what's funny about them?

[Riz]

Just Jay and Nas. I mean, you know, there's just. It's just funny that Nas is going to be doing literally his own huge thing with the Roots in three weeks.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I didn't look at it that way.

[Riz]

Me neither. I didn't either, until Jay came out and set the world on fire. And now I'm like, you're telling me Nas isn't watching, going, we do have to make some shit that people talk about after the show.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, but I. Yeah, you guys are no fun.

[Riz]

Oh, we'll talk about Drake and Kendrick till I'm fucking dead. But I bring up Jay Z and Nas and everyone gets all like, oh, we don't want to bring these things up.

[Ebro Darden]

No, I didn't say that. I just don't know what the thing is. I don't know what I'm talking about. They've already done songs together, they've worked together, they've done concerts together. The. The. We've already declared a winner and a loser, and we've moved on. And you're. Because they both happen to be performing with the Roots. I'm supposed to have a debate with you about it.

[Riz]

No, no debate. No, no, no. No debate. I'm just. If you guys believe in your mind that Nas wasn't watching the clips and thought, that's pretty hard. Well, that's why think about making. What am I going to do to make my shit super fire? You're crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

Before you started yelling, what I was going to attempt to say was, sure, Nas has a competitive mc, is trying to make a splash. For sure he's trying to make it.

[Riz]

And if you think he's ever forgotten or he's ever.

[Ebro Darden]

Who steps on stage or gets in front of a microphone and doesn't want to make a splash? Or, like, when you're one of the greatest mcs ever, when does that happen?

[Riz]

Where.

[Ebro Darden]

Where is the moment that you sold tickets to something, you rehearsed and showed up and got on the microphone and you weren't trying to give it Something that people went home and talked to.

[Riz]

Everyone does that. Everyone does that.

[Promotional Voice / Announcer]

That.

[Riz]

You're correct. I don't know why we're acting like this is so such a sensitive topic.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, no, because you started yelling at us because we weren't like, no, you wrote just like all into a debate about Nas and Jay.

[Riz]

I went, isn't that interesting that Nas also has a. As a Roots thing this month? You're like, why is that interesting? Are RJ and Nas affiliated in any way?

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, it's.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't even set it up.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You made it seem like Nas is

[Riz]

like, oh, I mean, I'm just having a little fun.

[Ebro Darden]

I thought. No, I thought about it through the lens of mad people perform with. With the Roots as a. As a backdrop. Like, that's not.

[Riz]

No, they do a couple. They do like a few a year.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, that's a thing.

[Riz]

Like, and this Nas one I knew about way longer than the J1, the NAS roots one's been on the calendar for months and months.

[Ebro Darden]

And by the way, first time I'm hearing about it, didn't even know it

[Riz]

was a thing, really. Well, I guess you just staying in. Into the live hip hop culture, like, you know, like a hip hop band. It's been. No, the flyer dropped a lot. I thought. I at the time thought, yo, that would be dope if we went out there because it's like a. It's multiple.

[Ebro Darden]

What's it for?

[Riz]

Is it happen to find a flyer?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Hollywood Bowl. I think it's Hollywood bowl because I remember he. I think me and you talked about it, but I don't really remember.

[Riz]

Oh, and then of course you want to add to it this thing that doesn't exist between Jay Z and Nas. Jay Z has also added his LA show and Parish.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, the LA is Sofi Stadium, right?

[Riz]

Yeah, so far.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Riz]

You know, you gotta do stadium in Paris.

[Ebro Darden]

I have no idea what that venue is. Which also adds to the combo around. Like, is there music coming? Because after you do three Yankee Stadium, you do Roots Picnic. Three Yankee Stadium.

[Riz]

Let's stop with the if. Let's stop.

[Ebro Darden]

You're moving on to it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's happening. Yes, I truly believe it's happening. He's not. He's been private for so long, quiet, and all of a sudden now he's popping out. He's definitely dropping something.

[Riz]

100.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, but it's also like, you know, you know, I think of it like parents, where it's kind of like your kids are going to school every day. You ain't Got nothing to do. Go ahead, get back outside. It's like me going to a WATCH party tonight, right? No, it's like y' all going to sleep. Y' all going to sleep. I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs. I might as well go.

[Riz]

Let me put out an album for the record. For the record. Oh, no, no.

[Promotional Voice / Announcer]

You got.

[Riz]

No, you just sent me another. This is another Roots thing. I believe so. So he said, Louis sent me the flyer for a great night in hip hop.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay.

[Riz]

Which reminds me of the terrible name I had for my first Peter Palooza, which was like a night of real hip hop at Best Buy Theater, August 29th. We could still do this.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Riz]

August 29th, 2026. Shoreline Amphitheater in Mountain View, California.

[Ebro Darden]

That's the bay.

[Riz]

And that's. That's the Yayo to you and me.

[Ebro Darden]

That's like a 45 from San Francisco.

[Riz]

Nah, Ebro. A great night in hip hop with the Roots.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Riz]

Nas.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Riz]

And De La Soul.

[Ebro Darden]

That's a good night. That's a great night.

[Riz]

No, I was unquestionably a great night. You know what's a great name? But I thought. But I thought that there was a Roots NODS thing coming up. June in the.

[Ebro Darden]

At the end of June. All right, well, I'm over this.

[Riz]

You found that, too. Oh, damn. Look at that lineup.

[Ebro Darden]

Put it up on the screen.

[Riz]

Roots, Nas, Ti Bun, B, Dayla, and that one's in SoCal. So you got one in Northern California end of the summer, but sounds like

[Ebro Darden]

the Roots are doing a lot of things. So back to your whole thing about Jay and Nas and the Roots again.

[Riz]

It's just interesting. I still find it.

[Ebro Darden]

Why?

[Riz]

Because Nas and Jay Z.

[Ebro Darden]

Because the Roots don't do a lot of shows with rappers.

[Riz]

Nas and Jay ZF history. Let's see if there's some. One upsmanship, if you will.

[Ebro Darden]

One upsmanship. Eight, four. Four. Elr. Elr. Three. Did we get. We. We had some Knicks calls, but they probably had to go to work.

[Riz]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

What were they saying?

[Riz]

Just one way you want to talk about the people getting beat up.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You're not wrong.

[Riz]

That was the biggest thing I heard.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, yeah, and. And definitely I was thinking, Rosenberg, you were talking about the multiple videos you saw or the people are talking about multiple videos. I saw videos that were the same thing from different angles.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That happened to me, too.

[Riz]

Sure. And I.

[Ebro Darden]

Because everybody had their phones out to catch the.

[Riz]

No, I saw different looking people in.

[Ebro Darden]

I saw. I saw. I saw. I saw three different looking people with spurs Jerseys.

[Riz]

And then you saw other.

[Ebro Darden]

And then I saw other angles of like, kind of similar incidents.

[Riz]

Yeah. I don't listen. Who knows how bad it was. I just know that when I listen, it's not good.

[Ebro Darden]

It's not good.

[Riz]

It's not what you want. And when I went, when I was watching TV at the gym, I looked up and I'm like, this is the first time after a Knicks thing this year that I've seen it's like shitty coverage instead of positive. And, you know, of course, it's their first loss in 14 games also, so there's just a lot of negative mojo. And then, of course, you know, Trump shut down the city to fall asleep,

[Ebro Darden]

to take a nap and spend millions of dollars and. And small businesses over in that area. Parking lots. The. The guys. One of parking lots that I use while I park my car. He was like, yo, we usually make mad money. I asked him, I was like, how bad? He was like, we made zero dollars.

[Riz]

Yeah, these are.

[Ebro Darden]

So I came to work from Long Island. Hour and a half, 90 minutes stood here because I was scheduled to be at work and we couldn't park cars. I couldn't get tips.

[Riz]

Stephen A brought this up when he went at Trump. When he responded to Trump yesterday. Yeah, he was like, you are. I thought you're about business. You're shutting down the business around the. Around msg. Like, what happened to your care about that all because you had to come to this game?

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, here, we got the clip.

[Promotional Voice / Announcer]

Stephen A talk about iq. I could say I put my IQ up against yours any day of the week. I could go one better. I could ask you why you've been running for me the last year since I wanted to talk to you. I could ask you to debate me since you think you that dude. Okay, we can go a myriad of ways with all of this, but I'm not gonna let you off the hook because none of that is important. I do appreciate the fact that you called me a nice guy, because don't tell anybody, but I actually am a very nice guy until you tug at me a little bit. Then after that, I gotta show my other side. And my other side came out last night when I recognized that businesses that are accustomed to being patronized were compromised by you because you showed up the crowd that surrounded the Madison Square Garden and its. Its surrounding areas. You compromised. I thought you were about the economy. I thought you were about helping New Yorkers because you love New York. I thought you were about making money for people. What happened to the parking garages. How much money did they make? What happened to the local restaurants in the immediate vicinity of Madison Square Garden? How much money did they make? We know you've made a lot of money. We know you keep making money. But have the New York Knicks benefited? The answer to that would happen to be no. This is a sports show, so I won't go any further than that other than to say Brunson played better when you weren't there. Mikel Bridges played better when you weren't there. Josh Carl Anthony Towns played better when you weren't there. Landry Shammat played better when you weren't there. The crowd was festive, hyped, and more intimidating when you weren't there. Businesses were thriving before you showed up. Parking garages were being fed before you showed up. There was noise reverberating off the walls of Madison Square Garden before you showed up.

[Laura Rosenberg]

All right, well, I thought he was all about Trump.

[Riz]

I don't think he. I'm not gonna get into this whole thing. He's never been all about Trump. It's the. It's. The question is whether he's easy on Trump.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Sure.

[Riz]

I don't think he's all about Trump. I've never thought he was all about Trump. I think he said that he's wants to vote for Newsom or Josh Shapiro, but. Okay, interesting, interesting try. I mean, listen, it's all nonsense. I just like seeing Trump squirm a little bit.

[Guest Narrator / Announcer]

This is a beat of 250, and we're celebrating Black Music Month. A celebration of the legacy, creativity, and global influence of black music today. Today, we honor Frankie Knuckles, the legendary godfather of house music. Frankie Knuckles helped transform black rhythm into a worldwide movement. At Chicago's iconic Warehouse Club during the late 1970s and early 1980s, Frankie blended disco, soul, gospel, R and B and electronic sounds into something entirely new. That sound became house music. Joyful, spiritual, emotional, and free. House music was created by black, Latino and LGBTQ community communities who turned the dance floor into a space for expression, connection, and liberation. What began in Chicago quickly traveled around the world, influencing club culture, pop music, dance music, and what we know as edm. Frankie Knuckles was more than a dj. He was a visionary who changed music forever. During Black Music Month, we proudly celebrate his groundbreaking sound influence and lasting cultural legacy around the globe.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Today, Black Music Month, Amplified Voices is

[Ebro Darden]

sponsored by AARP8 44 ELR. ELR3 Griff, who you got? Chef Marcellus. And we also. Oh, yo, what's up, Chef? How you doing?

[Riz]

What up, Chef?

[Ebro Darden]

What up? What Up Rosenberg. What's happening, sir? You, you, you out driving the cars. Thanks for sticking with the program. Even though we're not on the radio anymore. You jumped over to YouTube with us. I've been on the program since day one, bro. Thanks, man. If you don't know, me and Chef Marcellus had to. Had to do some crazy things one day at like 3 o' clock in the morning.

[Riz]

Yeah, no, you've always halfway told the story.

[Ebro Darden]

I can't really tell those.

[Riz]

I know. It's. It's always this.

[Ebro Darden]

So what's going on? You want to talk? Nick's. Everything is everything, man. Hey, man. Go, Nick. I think we needed this loss. Oh. You know what I'm saying? We needed this loss so we could get more stronger. And we getting ready to take the rest. Nicks and five. Nixon, five.

[Laura Rosenberg]

All right, thank you.

[Ebro Darden]

Nixon, five games. So that means they will close out in San Antonio. Thanks, Marcellus. Free call. Who's next? Griff? You got Jordan.

[Riz]

You got Jordan. That OKC fan.

[Ebro Darden]

Jordan, the OKC fan supporting Knicks. Who's supporting the Knicks? Jordan, welcome back to the program. Hey, how you doing? You see why I didn't wear my OKC gear outside? There you go.

[Riz]

You smart, man.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Smart.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, now, but here's the difference. It's not OKC's not in the finals, nor are they playing the Knicks. In this current climate, I would suggest not to do it. But generally speaking, no big deal. I'm not doing it in any climate. Nah, I think you're good, generally speaking. Thanks for your call, Jordan. Listen, can I just say one quick thing? Of course.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Riz]

Interesting.

[Ebro Darden]

Interesting. You there. What happened to him?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Dang.

[Ebro Darden]

Now, are we giving away tickets? Today you have two mass appeal World cup opening concert, June 12, the Billie Jean King Center. And then we also have a Father's Day prize pack courtesy of Pure Powers Organic. Yo, listen, so at the crib, Laura, you know how you talk about CMOs.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

And how you don't like the smell of CMOs?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. You know. Yeah. Very sensitive.

[Ebro Darden]

If you are like one of these, you know, individuals like myself and Laura Styles who keep, like, CMOs or you like, like, small. Hello, Griff. What's going on over there? Oh, or you keep like, you know, body lotions and things from, like, small companies. I like to use small companies. So the one that we use at the crib is called Pure Powers. But anyway, they're in, like, Fort Lee, New Jersey, friend of the family, and I asked them if they would give away some, some Father's Day Stuff so we could, you know, do something for the dads. Just like, cool. I like this for the mom. So we can give that away as well.

[Riz]

How are we gonna do it? How are we doing the giveaway?

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know. We'll figure it out. We still got to do the rundown. We got to get to a guru this week. We haven't got to a guru.

[Riz]

If you hadn't brought up Philly's Most Wanted, we'd be on time. Laura, what do we got in the rundown?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Let's go. Give me my song.

[Ebro Darden]

Sorry, bro.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay. I mean, we mentioned it, but yes. Jay Z is celebrating his 30th anniversary. Every reasonable out in Paris and in Los Angeles this fall. So, of course, you guys, the Yankee Stadium shows are set to go down July 10th, 11th, and 12th. All right. And then he's going to continue the celebration in Paris at the State de France. I've never been to this stadium before.

[Ebro Darden]

Neither of us.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And he's also going to, you know, he's hitting the SoFi Stadium October 23rd in Los Angeles.

[Ebro Darden]

Go ho. Get him.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So it should be fun.

[Ebro Darden]

More opportunities for everybody to see her.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. People were complaining. They were like, only in New York.

[Riz]

Yeah, this. He's doing a lot. It's gonna end up being a lot. It's gonna be more and more, and he's gonna be an album, and it's.

[Ebro Darden]

I.

[Riz]

It's happening.

[Ebro Darden]

I think if. I think HOV does runs in specific cities, not all cities. I don't see him.

[Riz]

No, no. Like full tour.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, I don't think. I don't see full tour. I see, like, if you want to see him, you'll do multiple dates in London, man. Like it, you know, Like, I think it'll end up being tourist hubs.

[Riz]

Maybe it'll end up being 20 or something in different places. I think that's probably correct. Also, I'm, I'm attempting, I believe, to go to the Friday in New York.

[Ebro Darden]

And then I, I, I'm going sad. I bought tickets to Saturday.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'm going to go Saturday, too.

[Riz]

You guys going together? You having a party without me?

[Ebro Darden]

No. I didn't even know she was going. No, Ricardo got tickets, but yeah, we were going to have a party. It would be without you.

[Riz]

Thank you. Yeah, I was trying. I hit up Michael K to be like, yo, can you. I did the rare. Can you help me buy tickets? When people say that to me, I hate them. And I think they're lying. They'll be like, hey, can I get A hookup on wwe. I'll pay. And I'm like, sure, you'll pay. But in this case, I really meant it. So I'm like, I don't know how to buy them.

[Ebro Darden]

Did Michael K. Hit you back?

[Riz]

Yeah, he connected me with people. And I'm waiting. It's people I knew already, turns out from the Yankees, and I'm waiting to see if there's a link to just buy at Face.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Riz]

And then I don't know how bad Face is.

[Ebro Darden]

Faces. I spent a lot of money, bro.

[Riz]

And how are your seats?

[Ebro Darden]

I bought on the floor. That's why I spent a lot of money.

[Riz]

You bought on the floor?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. And I bought five.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. I'm not on the floor.

[Riz]

And what we talking about, like, a thousand a ticket?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. It was a lot. It was a lot.

[Laura Rosenberg]

They're. They're pricey.

[Riz]

I gotta tell you. I love hov. I love Beyonce. I love Taylor there. I don't. Not really, but you get the idea of being nice. I'm disgusted by the ticket price thing.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It is.

[Riz]

Y' all agree? I love you all. Y' all are greedy as hell.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And.

[Riz]

And I don't need to hear, well, Ticketmaster's greedy. Okay, well, y' all greedy, but we're not. What we're not gonna act like is when Taylor Swift or Beyonce finishes a tour and they pocketed $300 million off the backs of fans who desperately needed, like, they feel they need to go. What we're not gonna pretend is, like, the artists aren't also greedy.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Everyone is greedy. And people continue to buy them, and they continue to bring up the price.

[Riz]

And again, as we always say, as you used to always say about the. The jets or the Knicks at different points, stop going. No one stops going. No one can stop going, because now I gotta try to buy these tickets.

[Laura Rosenberg]

This is gonna be their show. Like, no, I don't go to the other shows. I'm just gonna go to this one.

[Ebro Darden]

As somebody who's put together, has put together events. Yes, everyone's greedy also. Yes, Everyone wants to make more money.

[Riz]

Isn't that the same thing? Those two the same things?

[Ebro Darden]

Not always. Like, there's, you know, there's some people who are like, hey, I want to, you know, make a few dollars more, but start at the lowest price thing that you could buy at any event. What do you think it is? A hot dog?

[Riz]

Sure.

[Ebro Darden]

How much is that hot dog?

[Laura Rosenberg]

$10.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. Okay. And how much did they get it for when they bought a shit ton of hot dogs to you know, I'm saying. But that hot dog person who made the hot dog is selling it for more. So they're selling it for more. The. Everything is more that every place.

[Riz]

Well, every single place needs to make more money than I made the last year and every. And again. And that's why the, that's why the airline situation, as we talked about, sucks. Because it's not that they're not making money, it's that their profit, the stockholders want to make.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, and so Live Nation, a publicly traded company.

[Riz]

And so it's more money.

[Ebro Darden]

Let's go look at the, at their stock price.

[Riz]

No, I'm sure it's fine.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it's actually, I own some Live Nation stock and let's see. Live Nation is up.

[Riz]

Sure. There.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh man, they. They've jumped $4 today.

[Riz]

$4.

[Ebro Darden]

But they're down this week.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Week.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay, let's see how. Let's Year to date. Year to date they're up 20 something dollars. So they're doing a good job for their stockholders.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

With these, I guess what concerts are out here in the marketplace that are doing well that are on sale for this?

[Riz]

Chris and Usher.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, that's a big one.

[Riz]

Chris Usher hove. Harry Styles.

[Ebro Darden]

Harry Styles at the Garden. What he's doing 30 something dates.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Are any of the K pops of the K pop artists.

[Ebro Darden]

K poppers who went back on sale. Ariana Grande. So yeah, they, they out here making.

[Riz]

It's nasty, bro.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I agree with you, Rosenberg. Still nasty. It's just, it's too, it's nasty. All right, so you know, we talked about it. Watch parties are expected to return to Madison Square Garden for game form. And reports are saying that President Donald Trump will not attend Wednesday night's game because of scheduling conflicts. That's what they try to go with.

[Ebro Darden]

No, he, he wasn't coming again.

[Riz]

Why would he. He already got booed. He got booed out of the building. He's not interested. And he sleeps better in his bed. That's it. Or in his chair.

[Laura Rosenberg]

What was it better? What was it better than the Garden or my bed?

[Ebro Darden]

Like, what was the upside? Like, to your point, everything you just ran through. Right. But then when Donald Trump shows up somewhere, it's a marketing stunt, right? Like it's a, it's to. Is to create a narrative for his sycophants. And you know, that whole movement, what came out of that that they could use?

[Riz]

Nothing. I don't see how you could have viewed it as good by any metric. Even Republicans, Trump supporters in New York

[Ebro Darden]

did not love it, so why would I be going back?

[Riz]

I don't get it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Anyway, this was like, I saw a cute clip of this, but Long beach awards Snoop Dogg the key to the city. So he had his whole family. Hometown hero.

[Riz]

I mean, that's as overdue as anything ever.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's what I said. I was like, well, this hasn't happened.

[Ebro Darden]

It sounds like we should be upset that it just happened.

[Riz]

Yeah. Pissed off. Snoop just got the key to Long Beach. He is Long Beach.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He. Exactly. He is Long Beach. But I thought it was really cool.

[Ebro Darden]

But speaking of Long Beach, I want to shout out Vince Staples, man, I love that new Vince Staples album. That's right up my alley. It's called Crybaby. So if you want some. Some alternative rock slash hip hop with a political lyrical lean, you know, that's up my alley. I love it. I love it, I love it, I love it. And you know, Long beach reason. Other thing that clicked in my mind is Long beach has a long history of, like, punk, you know, like, yeah, strong punk scene. So shout out to that.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Very cool. That's the rundown.

[Ebro Darden]

There it is. Intro is the outro.

[Riz]

No, it's not. Because you put your charger in, you're disgracing yourself.

[Ebro Darden]

Sorry, sorry, sorry, Sorry, sorry, sorry. You guys want to get straight to the guru?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, we have to.

[Riz]

We have to. Hey, yo. It's time for the gurus, Rosenberg. Laura, you know you are a beautiful queen.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, Ebro, don't ever play yourself. You're not a guru.

[Laura Rosenberg]

The original gurus. Gmail.com. the original gurus. Gmail.Com. where the gurus unite to shine the light.

[Riz]

That's right. That's right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Burn the sage.

[Ebro Darden]

Zen, Zen.

[Laura Rosenberg]

All right, Rosenberg, who's writing to us? Who needs our help?

[Riz]

Well, probably a lot of people because we don't really do the gurus that often. We're trying our best to the original gurusmail.com, theoriginalgurusmail.com your destination for clarity. Gurus. I've been with my boyfriend for eight years. We both came into the relationship with children.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Riz]

He has a 10 year old daughter and I have four children, two adult children and two younger kids who are 13 and 11. We've built a life together and I genuinely love him, but lately I'm struggling with whether this relationship's emotionally fulfilling for me or if I'm holding on to potential instead of reality. About two and a half, three years in, I found out he had been cheating and talking to Multiple other women online. We worked through it and stayed together, but the insecurity from that never fully left me. Even now, most of his social media seems filled with women, many of them single. And it still bothers me. Anytime I try to bring up my feelings, he becomes dismissive or change the subject. Oh, he's playing in your face, by the way, lady. Just. Yeah, it makes me feel like my feelings are inconvenient to him. Another issue is that I feel disconnected from him emotionally. I'm someone who likes to talk about goals, the future, and building a life together. For example, I've talked about wanting to buy a second home as an investment property so we can create more income and stability for for the future. But he doesn't seem interested or engaged in those conversations at all. Sometimes I wonder if it's because we're not married, so he doesn't see it as our future. Financial stability has also been on my mind. He works in H Vac and changes jobs frequently. I understand the industry can be difficult. It still makes me uneasy. The intimacy side of our relationship has changed too. We barely have sex anymore. And even outside of that, I don't feel emotionally desired. I feel like the only time he touches me is when he wants sex, not affection or closeness. I miss intimacy that feels loving. So my question is, after eight years, am I wasting my time trying to keep working on this relationship or is this just a rough stage that long term couples go through? How do you know the difference between someone loving you quietly versus someone no longer putting effort? And at what point do you stop asking someone to meet your emotional needs?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh man, that's sad.

[Riz]

This is, this, this is. Some of. This is beyond what we're able to feel here because like, we're just not. I don't know if you guys know, we're not real experts or doctors or anything. We're just a couple of yo yos on the radio.

[Ebro Darden]

I think her questions we can answer.

[Riz]

Go ahead.

[Ebro Darden]

Like, how do you know? Yeah, you have a conversation, you start trying to really have talks about like what people are actually feeling and, you

[Riz]

know, certainly a good start.

[Ebro Darden]

And then you also probably need to look in the mirror. Like in the line where she says I miss. What did she say? The affection that's not tied to sex. I'm paraphrasing, but she said it better. Was that in the relationship or were you confusing sex and affection for a while and now you've matured and you want something deeper and more meaningful because that happens too. People will be in relationships and they're having great sex and they're having fun and they're doing all these things right. And then as the relationship matures, you know, someone goes, you know, we don't hold hands anymore. And. And someone else.

[Riz]

I'll keep it a bug. I'd wrap this up like my man on the Internet says, but how long they've been together?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Eight years. Eight years.

[Ebro Darden]

It's not going to be a quick wrap up.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, it's going to be difficult. But to Rosenberg's point, when you were reading that, like, even the whole cheating thing and her trying to stop. Yeah, he's playing.

[Riz]

Why is he still got suits? I'm ladies. If your man got caught cheating and he still got mad single women on his social. He doesn't give an F about you, by the way.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Most want to be cheated multiple times.

[Riz]

She said he's been caught multiple times cheating and his social is still filled with single women. He doesn't care about your feelings. He wants to get his joint wet. All right, he doesn't care.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And when she brings it up, he dismisses her bro.

[Riz]

He's probably still cheating. Yeah, he doesn't sound like a great guy. And on top of that, he's an unstable H Vac who you can't rely on.

[Ebro Darden]

Don't ish on H vac.

[Riz]

I said unstable H Vac.

[Ebro Darden]

Why is he unstable?

[Riz]

Because she said unstable.

[Ebro Darden]

But what does that mean?

[Riz]

She said he's changing jobs every few months and it makes her feel uneasy.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, but H Vac guys get mad work in the summer.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But right now he's not generalizing all H Vac guys.

[Ebro Darden]

She said.

[Riz]

And she said, I don't know why. You checked out for like seven seconds. Email. She just said he. He specifically is always switching jobs and it's making her feel uneasy and insecure. So I don't know. It's no shots at H Vacs. We love the H Vac.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'm sure it's a very good business, too. They make good money.

[Riz]

I'm sure. But unstable is unstable and doesn't make women generally feel secure. In America, when you. I can't speak for everywhere in the world, but in America, you're the man in the relationship. Being super unstable in his work life creates massive problems. As big a problem as anything else could cause. So you're talking about the cheating. As massive as a problem as there could be lack of stability financially, work wise, these are two big problems.

[Ebro Darden]

So they should wrap it up. But, you know, I still. I still punt it back to Her. I'm not quite having a conversation, you're saying, No, I don't. I'm not quite sure. And everything that she told us, that it wasn't always like this.

[Riz]

And this goes back to the Knicks thing. This goes back to our niche conversation earlier. Ebro always defers back to. But it's always like this.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, no, not good.

[Riz]

No, no, not in a good way.

[Ebro Darden]

But like in her own. Her own accountability kind of way. Like, so this doesn't happen again. If you're going to dead this sure, you still have to look in the mirror and go, how did I get here?

[Riz]

And are you going to pick another one? That's the same thing.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Exactly.

[Riz]

That's a good point. Ebro is right. You need to have a conversation. And if he won't even give you a serious conversation, that is the conversation.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, I just. I think.

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, eight years is a long time. They did a lot. They got kids.

[Riz]

They have their own kids.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

So I said maybe you can.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, I think. Yeah. I don't think this relationship is for you anymore, but it's ultimately up to you. You gotta decide. But I just. Everything that you gave us, it just doesn't sound good. So I don't know. I personally think that this relationship is not for you anymore.

[Riz]

That's what I think we're at. And they have a conversation.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So say the gurus.

[Ebro Darden]

There it is on the outro. I got some Nick's pieces I want to show.

[Riz]

Well, and you have to. We have. And you have to give things away. I got it.

[Ebro Darden]

4, 4 ELR. ELR 3 call right now. You have the Nas link up right there. Laura Styles. If you want to see Nas, Eric, the architect. Jules manifest. Yo, shout out to Ghana, man. Tickets [e-mail] but it's mass appeal. World cup opening concert.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Let's do it.

[Ebro Darden]

12 call right now. We'll get you those.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So we'll do it for caller number seven. Okay, caller number seven, those tickets are for you.

[Ebro Darden]

Now, Laura, this meme that we're gonna show right now is for you. Okay? You got that? Rahsaan, what's the meme? Here we go. Benson and Stabler are at the game. Why don't they do their job and go up there and arrest that sex offender?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Olivia. So good.

[Ebro Darden]

You saw this already?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, no, I saw. I saw a different one. Just photos of them together, which I loved. Fire. I love that.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, tonight, man. Let's go Knicks.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Come on.

[Ebro Darden]

Came four.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Good energy only. Let's go.

[Ebro Darden]

Listen, make sure you like and subscribe and share and all the things. And thank you for your support on the the ELR show. We got a chance. We're gonna be talking to Jasmine of the Jasmine brand. Yeah, we're gonna be talking to Darieliza Avila Chevalier, who's running for District 13. So we got some combos coming up for you on the elr, so make sure you subscribe so you get the notification. See y', all.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Tom,

[Ebro Darden]

Just don't call it a podcast.