143.) Rewatching 'This Is HOT 97' + Family Matters (7/17/26)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Ebro, Laura & Rosenberg Show

Episode 143: "Rewatching 'This Is HOT 97' + Family Matters"
Date: July 17, 2026

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Main Theme / Purpose

In this episode, Ebro Darden, Laura Stylez, and Peter Rosenberg blend cultural commentary, nostalgia, and candid conversation as they revisit their time on the reality show "This Is HOT 97" while candidly discussing family dynamics, investing, NYC politics, and the evolution of their show. The trio delivers their trademark mix of humor, cultural critique, and unfiltered debate for their dedicated audience as they adapt to life post-radio studio and the shifting media landscape.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reflections on "This Is HOT 97" and the Old Studio ([01:18]–[08:25])

• Rewatching 'This Is HOT 97':
  Ebro admits he was never interested in "This Is HOT 97," calling it primarily a marketing stunt for ratings rather than an authentic reality show. Laura and Rosenberg found joy in rewatching and commentating on the episodes, noting how scripted "reality" content upsets people who prefer to be lied to than to see behind the scenes.
  • “I never wanted it to happen anyway... I didn’t care if we came back for season two because I didn’t want season one." — Ebro [02:21]
  • "People are so fucking stupid that they know reality shows are scripted, but when you give them something that you’re calling a reality show that’s clearly scripted, now they’re pissed.” — Rosenberg [07:53]
  • The reality of the old office space: nostalgia about leaving their historic 395 location during COVID, reflecting on how moving out marked an end of an era.
  • “So now on video watching, be like, damn, there’s our old place. That’s where... it’s like an old house.” — Ebro [04:35]
  • Challenges of moving a radio station during COVID, like technical needs and waning demand for large Manhattan office spaces, contributed to the show’s digital transition.

2. The Nature of Reality TV & Audience Expectations ([07:27]–[08:25])

• The hosts discuss how audiences react to the clearly-scripted nature of their former show and reality television in general, preferring pretend authenticity.
  • "They’d rather be lied to.” — Ebro [08:14]
• They joke about how fans now get more entertainment from real behind-the-scenes arguments ("Bitch and Hoe Gate") than from produced shows.
  • “Now you’re seeing two friends just get into a stupid argument... we can market that now. That’s something I can get behind.” — Ebro [08:25]

3. Old School Hip-Hop and Jim Jones Controversy ([09:41]–[12:01])

• Play a clip of MC Shan reacting to recent claims by Jim Jones about being the best rapper in New York, reflecting on hip-hop’s generational debates and clout disputes.
  • “I want any of you to show the tape or show the... I will knock your head off when it come to rhyming." — MC Shan (clip played by hosts) [10:09]
• The hosts laugh at Shan’s old-school bravado and the enduring power of classics like "The Bridge," even as generational debates persist.

4. Rihanna & ASAP Rocky Relationship Perceptions ([12:02]–[14:03])

• Laura highlights positive videos of Rihanna and Rocky as a counter to viral clips suggesting tension in their relationship, using it as a lens on public scrutiny of celebrity couples.
  • “Everyone wants to come out when Rocky and Rihanna are in a fall... No one wants to put [out] this video at the J show — just having a good time.” — Laura [12:56]
• Ebro and Rosenberg commiserate about the realities of being seen with partners in public, noting every couple looks miserable sometimes.
  • “Every real couple has a video that if you took it, you’d go, she hates him.” — Ebro [13:57]

5. New York City Politics & Corruption Rundown ([14:42]–[17:42])

• The crew reviews an exposé video about Eric Adams' administration and officials indicted for bribery, fraud, and more. Ebro lampoons the “zero tolerance for self-enrichment or corruption” rhetoric in light of recent scandals.
  • “Only by fostering a culture of competence, transparency and honesty can we restore a diminished faith in our democracy. There will be zero tolerance for self enrichment or corruption in my City Hall.” — Quoting Eric Adams [16:12]
• Comedic takedown of Adams’ campaign as the “progressive who’s a cop,” and musings on why so many listeners supported him.
  • “If you are progressive of any sort and you voted for Eric Adams... Congratulations. You played yourself.” — Ebro [17:12]

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6. Dana White, Mistaken Celebrity IDs & Communication Failures ([18:28]–[22:24])

• The team plays a clip of UFC’s Dana White ranting about staff putting the wrong athlete’s name on a broadcast and draws parallels to their own experiences with miscommunication on air.
  • “We are the absolute worst to ever do the celebrity thing... we win." — Dana White (via clip) [19:22]
  • Ebro and Rosenberg relate: “Remember I used to scream and be like, guys, we’re in the communications business.” — Rosenberg [22:08]
• The importance of clear internal communication, both in media and organized sports, is underscored by these embarrassing public mistakes.

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7. Investing, Financial Anxiety, and Class Sensitivities ([22:27]–[35:28])

• A lively, vulnerable debate on investing — who does it, how much is “enough,” and why class jabs can sting.
  • Rosenberg reflects: “Investing is scary. It’s hard, and it’s not for everyone." [22:42]
  • Ebro (joking): “That’s because you and your Roc Nation friends are gatekeepers.” [23:28]
• Recounts the now-viral argument about investments, where Ebro unintentionally called Rosenberg “brokey,” sparking sensitivity.
  • “You were calling him broky... Everyone in the room thought you were saying, nah, Brokey, this isn’t for you.” — Laura [26:23]
  • “I didn’t realize at the time that that was sensitive.” — Ebro [26:02]
• Honest breakdowns of their own investment amounts and anxieties: the difference between risk tolerance, investing “for fun” (like small group ventures), and putting money into real estate or family homes for long-term stability.
  • “I’ve never invested more than probably $100,000 in something.” — Rosenberg [28:40]
  • “Holding on to cash is losing you money. More now than previously.” — Ebro [34:08]
• Laura describes being conservative with money, contrasting with her partner’s risk-taking approach. The group validates financial caution, but encourages strategic risk and persistence.
  • “I'm a scaredy cat... just in case everything blows up, I got this here.” — Laura [34:28]
  • “You did the due diligence, right? For anybody watching ... ask questions.” — Rosenberg [35:30]
• Advice: Invest in what you know and love; emphasize the importance of financial literacy and learning through family (“Now you’ll impart that wisdom to your daughter ... That’s the piece.” — Rosenberg [32:37]).

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8. Parenting, Strollers, and Car Upgrades ([35:32]–[40:25])

• Real talk about logistics of raising kids in the city — car seat hassles, when to upgrade your ride, and the ongoing battle with parking garage fees.
  • “Going to DC, take a trip right now with a smaller SUV or sedan. There's so much crap ... I can’t even bring myself to go to the full size SUV.” — Rosenberg [36:53]
• On using strollers for “big kids” on international trips due to jet lag, and mockery of “kids just getting a ride.”
  • “That’s a kid that’s just a kid in a, getting a ride.” — Ebro [39:37]
• Encourages parents to adapt but not feel judged for practical decisions.

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Notable Quotes & Highlights

• On Reality TV vs. Reality:
  “They’d rather be lied to.” — Ebro [08:14]
• On the Old Studio:
  “That place meant nothing to me... it was just a side backup studio.” — Ebro [04:14]
• On Celebrity Relationships:
  “Every real couple has a video that if you took it, you’d go, she hates him.” — Ebro [13:57]
• On NYC Politics:
  “Only by fostering a culture of competence, transparency and honesty can we restore a diminished faith in our democracy.” — Quoting Eric Adams [16:12] “Congratulations. You played yourself.” — Ebro [17:19]
• On Investing and Class:
  “You were calling him broky.” — Laura [26:23] “Holding on to cash is losing you money.” — Ebro [34:08]
• On Parenting & Car Talk:
  “Going to DC, take a trip right now with a smaller SUV or sedan. There's so much crap ... I can’t even bring myself to go to the full size SUV.” — Rosenberg [36:53]

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Segment Timestamps

• [01:18] Rewatching 'This Is HOT 97' and the quarter-hour share hustle
• [04:14] Nostalgia and logistics of leaving their old studio at 395
• [07:27] Scripted reality TV and audience expectations
• [09:41] MC Shan, Jim Jones and NY rap debate
• [12:02] Rihanna & ASAP Rocky’s relationship under the microscope
• [14:42] NYC politics: Eric Adams and administration’s scandals
• [18:28] Dana White, staff errors, and industry communication fails
• [22:27] Deep dive: Investments, money anxiety, and ‘broky’ discourse
• [35:32] Parenting logistics, car upgrades, and stroller etiquette

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Tone & Language

Lively, irreverent, and genuine — Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg deliver their insights with humor, candor, and community-minded energy, freely mixing playful jabs with earnest advice and heartfelt reflection.

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Transcript

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And we're live on Matchday as Doug reaches for a buffalo wing. He's got it.

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What a finish. There's no doubt about it. It just tastes better. Match days deserve Pepsi.

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Our communication skills could be a little better.

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Hanky, it's against gol etiquette. What does God's etiquette say about jamming

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this club into your mouth?

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It's frowned upon.

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The new season of the Hulu original

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King of the Hill, premiering July 20 on Hulu and Hulu on Disney plus for bundle subscribers terms apply. Just don't call it a podcast.

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The E. Rosenberg show

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that landed okay, ladies and gentlemen. So just quick review because maybe some people came back this week after the. The Bitch and Hoe blow up the Bitch and Hoe fest.

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Bitch and Hoe gate.

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Bitch and Hoe Gate from. What was that? Tuesday.

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Yeah.

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This Friday program is now. This is the. The free Friday.

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Well, the free portion.

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The free. Well.

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Cause it was freedom. It was Freedom Friday. Then it was Friday Freedom. Then it was Family Friday. Freedom. Then it was family Friday. Now it's just. This is Free Friday. Like, you get this for free, and if you want more, then you gotta get the Patreon.

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Yeah, it's free for now.

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Yeah. We give you a little. It's a little free portion of the program. But yeah, if you want the full Friday experience, which, like last week's episode Ebro wasn't on, which was fire.

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Yeah.

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Laura and I rewatched the entire Aaliyah tribute at Essence.

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Yeah.

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And just, like, stopped and commented and talk to Leah. It was great.

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And then we did also. This is Hot 97.

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That was. That was a Wednesday Patreon.

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But. Yes, but. But. And Rosenberg, you were right. I was like, ebro would hate this. And when I told him about it, he was like, yeah. I was like, yeah.

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I was more along the lines of, wait, what do you guys want to do now?

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You kill the fun. He's a fun killer.

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He doesn't. This isn't. That stuff's not for him. He doesn't. That's not your vibe. Well, you don't get why people want it, but they really enjoyed it.

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Well, and it. And it came out. She told me about it. This was on a Patreon. Go get it. Check it out. She told me about it and then we talked about it. The politics behind even the show taking place. Like what was going on, why that show even happened. Because I never wanted it to happen anyway.

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Right.

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You know what I'm saying? And the fact that it was really a marketing stunt. So I didn't really give a fuck if we came back for a season two because I didn't want season one. I mean, so now to sit and watch.

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It did help, right? It did do the.

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No, it did what it was supposed to do. Like it was great for marketing. We got a boost. You know, if you care about radio ratings, there's this thing called

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damn quarter hours. The. The.

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The quarter average quarter hour share.

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Yes.

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That your quarter hour share number, not your actual. Because their share of the market. Then there's like, you know, cum and TSL and all these things. But there's something called quarter hour share number that advertisers buy on. And that could be like 1/10 of a point, right?

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0.4.4. Yeah.

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You can go from 0.3 to a point 4 or 0.4 to 0.5. And so anyway it was to. It wasn't a ranking marketing in that regard. It was about, you know, tripping this little quarter hour share. We were trying to trip in that moment so that we could raise rates on advertising for a specific quarter and hit a specific number.

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And it worked. And the quarter hour share did go up.

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Yeah, yeah, it worked. It was fine. But I never wanted to do it anyway. And then we didn't do it again. So I was, I was happy they didn't want us to come back but.

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But it was fun. The watch along was fun also because it was. Man, we haven't been in that building in many years. So I realized that some of the things we're physically seeing there we're never going back to again.

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Yeah. Good memories.

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I still haven't really just dawned on

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you by the way. Honestly. Yes. Because. Because not going back to where we were last means nothing to me. That place meant nothing to me. Like even though I did early shows that when I first started the station it wasn't what it was just a

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side backup studio and it just.

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So when we left, me never walking in that building did not affect me. I brought a camera. Like Natalie came and took pictures and we did a whole thing our last day at 395.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I have pictures of the three of us that Natalie took. Like we pose and stuff that day. I brought the dogs in.

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Yeah, I Remember that?

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Yeah. It was our. Like, to me, that was a big deal. So now on video watching, be like, damn, there's our old place. That's where it's like an old house.

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Yeah.

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That you lived in.

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Yeah. Really knows fire space.

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Fire space.

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I'll never have any.

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No, no, no, won't. We didn't need it. They couldn't. No deal could have been arranged. We had to just up and go. I'm sure the building wouldn't have possibly considered any sort of.

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No, they would. I actually was privy to that part.

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They wouldn't have.

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Right. So the footprint we had. Not just the studio footprint.

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No, no. The whole.

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The whole sales marketing footprint of that old place. We didn't need it anymore.

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Right.

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And so they wouldn't redo the lease to carve that footprint up differently.

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Got it.

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So that was a real thing.

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Okay.

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So that. That piece of the moving from 395 was legitimate, where it was like, we have more space than we need. We don't have that size sales force. We don't have that size marketing.

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And that floor was big.

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Yeah.

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In retrospect, that whole area, sales, it was big. Well, not to mention we had a storage on that floor that was huge.

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There you go. So we were paying for that full footprint. They didn't need it anymore.

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Now they just pay for a storage. Well, they'll never be able to find anything. And nothing will ever be found ever again, if we're being honest. And then when we move from there. Rather keep in mind, when we move, guys, we move during COVID Yes. I'm not, as we learned this week, an investments and real estate expert or anything of that kind. I am pretty sure, though, that in 2022, I don't think it was super expensive to lease in the middle of Manhattan commercial space. Pretty sure prices were down because businesses were fleeing as people were emptying their spaces.

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Okay. You're right about that.

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And somehow we could not find a place to go.

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Don't say, well, so sorry. There's other parts. There's. There's other parts of that too, where when you move a radio station, you have a tower or a signal that has to go on the top of the building. That's not your main signal. That's like your signal to the other signal. The building has to allow you to put something on the top of their building.

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No, that's. So that'll limit where you can.

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So some buildings. But you can imagine.

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But there are places.

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Yeah, yeah. And also building a studio, you know, you have to raise the floor. Sometimes you got to drop the roof. You gotta. You know, there's other construction things that have to be considered. Say, yes, there's plenty of places to find. But during COVID I distinctly remember people didn't know. There's a lot that just people didn't understand about when it was going to be over, when. You know what I'm saying? Like, you remember those. Like, during COVID it was like, yeah,

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no, no, we don't knew.

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Oh, no, we're going. Oh, no, we're not. Oh, we're. No, we're not. Oh, they extend. Oh, it was. A lot of it was, you know, uncharted territory.

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But in the end, long story short, to put a bow on it, leaving that building, in a lot of ways, was kind of the beginning of the end for all of us.

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Yeah.

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And so when we went back and watched that episode, I was just like, in addition to everything, it's like, oh, man. Telling people, like, that hallway. We have that funny part in the episode where Kanye is doing the interview with Angie. And by the way, this is hilarious that people still thought this was a real documentary. Me and Cypher standing at the window eating popcorn, watching the interview. But I'm like, that's the middle of the hallway. That is literally the hallway that everything took place.

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Lauren. I talked about that on the Patreon, where I was like, you know, people didn't. People are so fucking stupid that they know reality shows are scripted. But so when you give them something that you're calling a reality show that's clearly scripted, now they're pissed.

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Now they're pissed because you're acknowledging it rather than lying to them.

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Right.

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They'd rather be lied to.

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That's right.

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But we were like, nah, we're never

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let the truth get in the way of a good story. And really, ultimately, what they wanted is a good story. And then now the question is, Was this is Hot 97 a good story?

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Correct. Which is why probably this week, they were more excited by and Hogate, because now you're seeing two friends just get into a stupid argument.

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Right.

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And that's. We can market that now. That's something I can get behind.

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I mean, it's clip heaven, you know what I mean?

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Yo, shout to Danny from the shop.

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Stop. Yo, bro, that's what made him think last time.

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Oh, that really upset him very much.

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You heard it again, by the way. I just want to say that from the argument with me the other day to the Danny from the shop, your man's A habitual line stepper. That's who he.

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Yeah, but I didn't call you a bitch. I don't call people out their name.

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I only.

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I just call you the wrong name.

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Isn't that out your name?

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Kind of.

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Because I know your name isn't Bish. I don't call you Abro. I mean, that's even worse, bro. It.

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Bro.

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Do you ever get an Ebro? You get an Ebro?

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I get an Ebro from Spanish speakers.

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Yeah. Ebro, Ebro.

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Or like you're just reading your name in class. You ever get it? Oh, but you were.

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Well, no, I was Ibrahim in class. So as soon as they paused, I knew it was coming to me.

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Really?

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It was that pause?

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Yeah. I had the most. You know, I was in mostly white environments, so it was like, you know,

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speaking of calling people out their name in, we missed things we didn't get to from earlier in the week. I see we have to play the MC Shan clip. And why did your man Griff. Right on the page. MC Sham. That's calling someone out there.

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Don't do that to Shan. Let's go, MC Shan.

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Let's watch MC Shan.

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See, I don't know what happened to

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my old school rappers, right? See how the is Jim Jones. Jim. Yeah, you.

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You run around and nobody said nothing

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to you of old school, all right?

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Oh, you gonna say, Chris, Prove it.

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I want any of you to show the tape or show the. Does anybody know what he's talking about?

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Anything?

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Although he sold more records, he been on tour.

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I'm chill.

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I'm on tour now. Right. But, Jim, I would have knocked. I will knock your head off when it come to rhyming. Get the out of here.

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All that gangster.

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You gonna bully your way into saying, I'm the best out of here, son. I don't even know what happened to my old heads that. Lou, you have any idea? Y' all acting like D, man.

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Come on.

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I, I, I, I want this clip

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to stop, but I do, like, block off when it come. I want this.

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I, I'm not. I don't want this. I don't want this for my.

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What's it about, Louie?

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Yeah.

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Jim Jones had said some stuff on his podcast about what being the best in New York, and it started going down the timeline. How did it affect MC Shan? I think he mentioned MC Shan as part of, like. Yeah, MC Shan was nice, though. And then.

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Listen, guys, listen. I was just in New York, specifically in the Bronx the other day.

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Yeah, sure.

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And there was another person in New York on stage. And he's from New York. His name is Jay Z. Oh, I

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think you meant D. Nice. Go ahead.

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Well, he was up there too. Yeah, but I just want to say. Talk. What are we talking about as far as the best rapper in New York? What do we. What are we saying? Saying he has a better catalog than who?

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Jones rappers the New York.

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Yep. But this, but this is what I mean. You're just trying to get me to get into a convo. Like, I'm not. Come on. Sometimes. And that's why, like even looking at this MC Shan clip right now, like,

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I

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all respect the MC Shan.

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Yo, the Bridge is literally one of my favorite records of that era. No question. Down by law, baby. Nah, Shan has records, bro. He looks absolutely nuts in that clip. And sounds. No, he looks nuts, but you could look nuts and still have classic records.

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All right, Laura, what else did we miss?

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I mean, what do we miss? What is this video of riri and Rocky?

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Oh, this was me being positive, P. Okay. Because they always want to come out when Rocky and Rihanna are in a fall. They look like they're not happy to. No one wants to put this video out at the J show. Look at him just having a good time. Supportive. And Rocky had shows this weekend also.

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This was after she went on.

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah, this is after. Now, hold on. By the way, Rocky must have come. Come over there right after his shower, bro.

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He was in the.

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This is. This is Sunday show was Saturday. This is Sunday.

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Yeah. Remember we saw the pictures and videos

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of him outside with little Rocky.

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Oh, nice.

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I just thought it was nice, cuz everyone wants to, you know.

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Well, and you say. I remember when this happened, when the whole. Where were they?

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They were at the. At the Met, G. Yeah.

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And it was like in a van in their Sprinter. And they were.

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Or they were standing in a hallway and she had an attitude. Cuz he was having a convo with someone else. And people, man. And Rosenberg was sensitive about it. And I get it and I agree with him. Because if you're in a real relationship, you're gonna be annoyed.

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They do this with.

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In public. Matter of fact, the most you're annoyed if you're in a relationship is when you're trying to get somewhere on time.

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Oh my God.

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Listen here, bro. That getting out the house. Yep. On time.

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Nah. Creates problems. And listen, I don't want to get deep into the weeds on Will Smith and Jada. Cause God knows what the hell's going on over there. What they're living together Whatever, Whatever. That shouldn't be news. They're married. But whatever. Whatever weird shit they got going on. I don't know. But when people try to point to videos, them like, look, she hates him. I'm like, bro, every real couple has a video that if you took it, you'd go, she hates him.

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That's right.

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And vice versa. Like the. Oh, my God, it happens. So I just wanted to point out the.

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I like it. I like it.

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I'm sure. Look, I'm sure people saw me and Jazz this weekend at the concerts, right?

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There had to be a moment.

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Lots of moments. You know why? Cause I'm like. I'm hanging out, and Jaz is, like, sitting down, taking videos. Like, we're not. It's like we're not even together, right? I'm walking out, talking to people. She's walking over there, doing something else.

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By the way, you don't want to get a picture of Ebro when Jazz is taking the third photo, trying to get the lighting right the third time.

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Oh, my God.

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And Ebro's a prop man holding things up. You think the look on his face is one of happy and wonder. So it's not fair. That's not real relationshiping.

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Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Wait, wait. This one's a good one. I thoroughly enjoyed this video.

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Is it MC Shan again?

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No, no, no. This is video number nine, where Eric Adams officials.

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Oh, that's a good one.

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Mandami, who I. I call Scandami. He has no place in New York City politics.

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Indicted for bribery. You, sir. Indicted for eight. Bribery and money while he charged.

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This can't be real.

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Investigated 100,000 cashes, 20 months in prison. Has got.

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Brian bribes for fire inspections.

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I remember him.

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Chief Madre. Oh, yo, that's not home raided by the FBI.

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What about this guy?

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Three years probate, conspiracy to commit fraud.

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Oh, wait. What about this guy?

[B]

These guys got to be Ulrich. Sixteen counts of bribery, conspiracy.

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Oh, what about Scavino? I know he's good.

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Sakavino, three years in prison, that guy. Here we go.

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Real estate chief.

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He's got. Wait, What? Sexual harassment. Wait, I can't.

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Too fast.

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Come on, man.

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Wait, stop.

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Wait.

[C]

Come on.

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Are you serious?

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Too good.

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Come on.

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Oh, the potato. The potato chips. I remember the potato chips.

[C]

The bag of cash.

[A]

Yo, I just wanna. Yo, this is.

[B]

Yo, the fact that he launched the cryptocurrency to fight anti Semitism is crazy.

[A]

No, that's what it was.

[B]

That's what it was. Yo, Eric Adams, man. Look, with the Yarmulke I he let

[A]

Israelis in East Jerusalem know I served you as the mayor. What is only by fostering a culture of competence, transparency and honesty that we can restore a diminished faith in our democracy. There will be zero tolerance for self enrichment or corruption in my city hall.

[B]

Yo notice mom, Donnie said a diminished faith in our democracy diminished. We're trying to restore a diminished faith.

[A]

That's nice. That's very positive to say a diminished faith and not a completely gone like I.

[B]

He's basically saying I have no expectation that you're going to fully have faith in democracy.

[A]

Just restore a little bit of the

[B]

dominion, but a little bit. We're going to try to get back to yo God.

[A]

I just want to remind everyone out there like no dead ass. If you are progressive of any sort. And I want to add if you're progressive of any sort and you voted for mom for Eric Adams. I just want to Congratulations.

[B]

That's really meant for me.

[A]

You didn't support what number you rank him?

[B]

I had him third.

[A]

Oh, I hit. No, I hit it.

[C]

Yeah. See, I never even ranked him.

[A]

Congratulations.

[B]

You played yourself.

[A]

Baskin. You rank him.

[B]

Baskin says no rankings, no ranking.

[A]

All right, good, good. Because some people got caught up and it's hilarious. Like in retrospect, I just still can't believe it.

[B]

Well, and. Well, because. And we were saying it at the time, he's a cop. I don't fully trust him. So we were saying that. But on the other side, he was active in the community. He was doing positive things with people.

[A]

I mean, he showed up. We know that he showed up.

[B]

Yeah. He was places advocating and doing things. People had a relationship with him. The cop part of it and the old New York kind of part of it was why I didn't.

[A]

Wasn't Madri out doing nice stuff too?

[B]

Madre was.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And he was demanding sex for overtime.

[B]

That's not nice.

[A]

Hit the button again. Congratulations and shout out. So I'm sorry to all the Albanians out there who now have to say that they're countrymen with Eric Adams, you

[B]

know, is he lived there?

[A]

No, but he's been. He's been made officially Albanian, I think. I think that's what I saw.

[C]

Yes, I remember that ceremony.

[A]

All right. Also stuff we didn't get to this week because we got to go to Patreon, guys. And I'm telling you, you want to be a part of the Friday Patreon, you don't want to miss it. Do you all play the Dana White being Ebro?

[B]

Well, how did I get into it?

[A]

Watch the clip. But by the way, for the record, while Dana White's politics, he always says things that we're like, why are you saying that? I don't agree with you. There was always also something that was appealing about him, like an honesty. There was a rawness to him. And no, honestly, we had interviews. And you got along with him.

[B]

No, no, no, we got along. And now you're going to disagree, and

[A]

now you're going to see in the clip why you got along with him. This is Dana White complaining about how his UFC staff handled the fact that they showed Shakur Stevenson, who just signed Azufa, boxing and mislabeled him. Just imagine if Bascom had done this.

[B]

Oh, Dana, do you. I don't even have to see the clip.

[A]

Clip seven. I just paid Shakur Stevenson a shitload of money, and for some reason, we can't figure this celebrity out. They put him up as a OKC NBA player. No, they said it was Jalen Duran.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

No. Are you kidding me?

[A]

I mean, it's just. It's absolutely crazy. But we are the absolute worst to ever do the celebrity thing. When we put celebrities in up, we are the worst. I just had this debate in the back with my guys.

[B]

FIFA's bad, too, though.

[A]

Everybody back there. And they said, no, soccer's worst. Soccer shows the people.

[B]

And they don't.

[A]

They don't put up any graphics. Oh, no, we put up graphics and put the wrong guy's name on it. We win. The worst ever to do way back here. But by the way, no, in all seriousness, that is the part you like about him, that he stands up and says, we're the worst. Nah, that's leadership I do respect.

[B]

Yeah, we suck.

[A]

We suck. Suck at this.

[B]

Well, and. Because the other thing is, you got to think about it. So someone said, put the camera on this person. There's another person sitting right in the same room with that person that does the, like, labeling of things.

[A]

Right?

[B]

What is that called?

[A]

The crying fonting or Chiron.

[B]

Yeah, Chiron. Whatever. It. You're sitting right there.

[A]

Jalen Williams. Not Jalen Duran. Sorry, it was Jalen Williams.

[B]

You're sitting right there. You're right there. You put the camera on somebody. Nobody in the production room was like, hey, we're about to put the camera on Drake. It's.

[A]

Well, I know. We have to make sure this is the guy who the boss signed to the boxing company. The boxing company's connected to us. We got to get it right. You cannot get this wrong. He's gonna freak out if we get.

[B]

Well, not even that. No. But I'm not even going that far. I'm going to the like. Okay, yeah. Knowing the inner workings of a contract being signed and a new deal and all. I'm going that far. Someone said, let's put the camera on this person. Who is the person?

[A]

They were putting the camera. Right. Because the camera had to get put on them.

[B]

Someone had to make a decision to put the camera on it. Who is the person? And by the way, this isn't even about that clip. This is just in general, when I'm watching television.

[A]

Yeah. How do you get it and how

[C]

do they get to that conclusion?

[A]

Well, I have to imagine Louie was Jalen Williams at the fight.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, so Jalen Williams was also at the fight. We're gonna put the camera on him also.

[B]

So then that was just a button. Press somebody up with the button, maybe.

[A]

Or they just didn't.

[B]

You can't get that confused.

[A]

You can't. You can't. And they did.

[B]

Why? I. I don't know the. I know Shakur, what he looks like. What's Jalen Williams?

[A]

I don't know. Jay Williams. Look, you'd recognize me if you saw him. Probably. He's the second best.

[B]

I'm out here giving a It out, and they just think all black people look like. They probably look nice guy.

[A]

Your company. Just sign like it's your main.

[B]

No, I know, but those. But, you know, Lou, Lou, Lou, you know, you're not always privy to the front office workings. You don't know. Just signed. Just sign one. They do.

[A]

They knew. Oh, it was very. It was a big deal. They signed.

[B]

I still think if we're all sitting in the same room and we do it here all the fucking time, they'll be. They're having. They'll have a conversation over there about what we're supposed to be doing, but never tell one of us.

[A]

Right. Communication happens and all this stuff.

[B]

And remember I used to scream and be like, guys, we're in the communications business.

[A]

Yeah. No, it happens. You're right. Listen, I don't want to get these guys in trouble because we played a clip of Dino White, okay? Now he's to start yelling at Baskin. No, we gotta go. We gotta. Patreon.

[C]

If you.

[A]

If you want a whole full show, come to Patreon. You'll enjoy it, I promise.

[B]

There it goes. And then how much response did you get from your. Your investment conversation? Anybody call you about investing?

[A]

You know, I'm not comfortable talking about it. I don't know. I want you to pass judgment. Maybe they're like, yo, I heard you

[B]

got some money, by the way. I want to do that. Remind us, next week's Patreon. And this is for people out there, or even you. Investing is scary. It's hard, and it's not for everyone. And so I don't even. Like, there's a lot of people on the Internet who talk, you know, invest in this. Invest. I'm not one of those people, bro. Like, that's why I said it this week at some point where I was like, I don't have investment people on. Or, you know, talk realist. Like, it's scary. It's not for.

[A]

But you've done more than most people.

[B]

I personally have. Yeah, but I haven't. Like, have I ever said, hey, call. Oh, my God, no. And you. No, I wouldn't do that.

[A]

That's cuz you and your ROC Nation friends are gatekeepers.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

All right, we're going to Patreon.

[C]

Those are confirms.

[A]

All right, we're going to Patreon. Bye.

[B]

Introducing Meta Glasses.

[A]

You have questions. They've got answers. Hey, Meta, what's the capital of Peru?

[C]

Lima. How do you say where's the restroom in Spanish? Dondes Talvano.

[A]

Hey, Meta, Is a hot dog a sandwich? Technically, no.

[C]

Spiritually, yes.

[B]

Hey, Meta, what should I do with my life?

[C]

That's one of life's biggest questions. What do you think?

[B]

Ask anything with the new Meta glasses?

[A]

Turn our mics back on, and I turn the beat off because we're back. Oh, back on Patreon, baby. Back with our fam. The people that would never let us down would never go clipping us and trying to make us look bad.

[B]

Right, Dan? Danny from the stop's not in here. Look, Danny, I got your name right.

[A]

Danny from the stop.

[C]

He is.

[B]

I will never say the shop ever again. All right, and yo, and Danny, I want to know your relationship with Ian Schwarzman and Joe Budden.

[A]

I want to know because there's something there, right? They got to be in cahoots.

[B]

Well, because on multiple occasions, I've seen Danny from the stop on the. When Lou and them will send me clips. Your name is, like, one of the speakers in the. Like, at the top row.

[C]

A lot of these things.

[B]

But how do you. I didn't know. Like, are you in business with them in some way? Are you making money with them in some way? We need full transparency, especially Danny, after I saw the clip that you took of me and Rosenberg arguing. Tried to make it sound like we were arguing about some Roc Nation shit.

[C]

We knew it was gonna happen.

[A]

No, it was a stretch, but it was tangentially connected.

[B]

Was it, though?

[A]

Yeah, it came from the conversation about Charlamagne investing in things with Roc Nation people. And then you were trying to point out, yeah, but I invest with people, and that doesn't mean I'm down with them. And then I somehow went to, well, I don't know about all these Illuminati people investing. And then you go, well, yeah, you a broke bitch.

[B]

And I went, no, you're doing a Danny from the. Stop.

[A]

No, I'm not. You didn't say that then. Then we.

[B]

I just said, you don't have. Invest. You don't invest. What I say. What was it?

[C]

You don't have money.

[B]

You don't have money to invest. And you got offended by.

[C]

Because you're like a little kid, you're like, you don't have money to invest. You.

[B]

No, I didn't. I know. No, no, no. I just said, you don't have money to invest. I didn't even realize at the time that that was sensitive.

[A]

Well, it's. Hold on. I want to. I want to be clear. I want to be very clear for a moment. I. It's the. That I have many things I'm sensitive about that is actually not particularly one of them. But the way I didn't know, felt. Yeah. If you want to use the word sensitive in that. I found it like a dis.

[B]

Yeah, you found it.

[A]

I found it offensive, yeah. Yeah, I did. But so did everyone in the room but you.

[C]

You were calling him broky.

[A]

Everyone in the room thought you were saying, nah, Brokey, this isn't for you. That's how everyone took it.

[C]

He was telling you you just can't, and you can't.

[A]

But no, you're.

[B]

But I still don't get it.

[A]

I'm like, that.

[B]

I still don't get it.

[A]

I didn't know you were like, why are you. This. This is. That's my trait of being completely defensive. Even when people are being like, no, it's your tribe. West hat. Or it's my tribe. I'm like, no, no, it's my tr.

[B]

No, no, I'm accepting that it was offensive. I. That you guys are offended by it.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I don't still get that.

[A]

Why it's an offensive thing to say.

[B]

Say.

[C]

And we're telling you that's how it came off.

[B]

And I'm accepting that. But even still, if somebody's struggling to

[A]

understand how there's a different meaning to it, that's not offensive.

[B]

Well, because. And that's why we. In the episode, I was basically like, you know, some. You don't necessarily have money, and I encourage you to not just have. Unless you want to invest. You should be doing other things with your money that are safe. Like, you know what I'm saying?

[A]

Like, well, but there you can invest, right? In business, you could invest in different things and also be safe and have.

[B]

Yes, but I was talking about in the context of like, I'm gonna put money into a group of people to go do a thing, buy a thing, start like a.

[A]

Like a casino in Times Square.

[B]

Like what?

[A]

Yeah, and I wonder. I did wonder that when I heard it, I was like, I wonder how much money there you're ones putting.

[B]

Well, usually there's a minimum. Right, right. So.

[A]

And I'm sure it's different levels throughout the group.

[B]

Right. Sometimes, like, I've had people come to me and they'll be like, yo, bro, like, we'd love to have you. And I'll be like, well, I don't have money to invest. And they'll be like, well, like 20 grand, 10 grand. And I'll be like, maybe I could do that. I could do that. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Right. But some people in the group are

[B]

putting a million, half a million, a million dollars, 1.5. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

You know that there's a chance that you might lose it. It's taking risk.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Yes. I assume off top with those type of investments that I'm not gonna make any money.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And what. So why do you do it?

[B]

Because I might. It's like gambling to me. It's like. But if it hits, if it's cool, it's great.

[A]

But that's something you would do with like $10,000.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is still not nothing to potentially throw in the garbage.

[B]

I've never invested money. Lot more money than probably a hundred thousand dollars in something.

[A]

A hundred thousand dollars. A lot of. There's a lot of money for people. It's a lot.

[B]

It's a lot of money. No, that's what I'm saying, just for context for anyone listening.

[A]

Got it. Got.

[B]

That's big for me.

[A]

But. And that would be. That would not be throwing at a shot. That's something you're like, over time, I will get this back. Yes, I'm very confident. Yes. Right.

[B]

But. But in the case of this show,

[A]

which is quite a risk, but keep going.

[B]

Well, yeah.

[A]

Different conversation for a different day.

[B]

But I was just talking about, like, with other people, that I'm. I'm not in control of it. Like, I have, you know, you make an investment. You know, I'm not actually operating the company. I'm not at the thing. Let's. Hypothetically a restaurant or you're not there in the day to day. Right. Making an investment in us, where we're actually doing the work and I'm there. That's a different. I don't know, my brain looks at that differently. Sure. Right. Than just a regular investment. And in the context what we were talking about, of Charlemagne investing in a casino alongside that ROC Nation bid and being a part of a group that was going to invest in that, we don't know what the layers are. But going. Even going back to that conversation, that doesn't mean you're in cahoots, right?

[A]

No. The more interesting in cahoots part would be if, in fact, he is ROC Nation by management, which is why he was always wearing the hat, et cetera, et cetera.

[B]

That's more like they manage me or something.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If that's the case, that's way different to me than I'm just investing in an opportunity.

[A]

Right. Because you don't have to necessarily be that close to people to end up.

[B]

Right. I did have something, because I got news for y'. All. I don't believe Charlemagne was going to be in the operations of the casino. No.

[A]

Although he did say he was going to all the meetings, the public meetings, to, like, advocate.

[B]

Yeah, to advocate on behalf. But that doesn't mean you're in the operations of managing.

[A]

No, he's gonna be a dealer. Charlamagne, the dealer.

[B]

He'll be a pit boss.

[A]

Yeah, Charlamagne the pit boss.

[B]

Someone says, I'm going to buy a home. Right. I don't think of that as investing. I think of that. And it is, by the way.

[A]

It is.

[B]

You are investing in yourself. You're investing in your family's future. It's investing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I think it's necessary. Not even, like, optional, like, I think in this society, necessary. A second home, like a vacation home, is investing more than I think a primary home is. Right, right, right. And even the second home is still like, I'm gonna live in it. I'm not gonna Airbnb it. I'm gonna. It's our place to.

[A]

We're going to get out of it, and.

[B]

And it's making us happy.

[A]

Right. Which is a worthwhile cost, which is

[B]

a, an investment and valuable. Right. Just like, you know, I wouldn't call a vacation investment because you're not going to get any other, the other value out of it other than enjoyment and the experience. But with a second home, you're going to actually hopefully maintain the value of what you purchased for maybe you make a little bit of money.

[C]

Money.

[B]

But when you're talking about like when I often think of investing as like stock market, some money market accounts, you know, or getting in some, like I said, I'm going to invest in a restaurant. These people are starting a restaurant, they're raising money and I'm going to put in at this tier, into this long term investment. Right. So when we were talking about that, I was specifically talking about that, right. If we were just talking about making sure, you know. Yeah, buying real estate or something, that yeah, of course you've done that.

[A]

Well, no, but what I'm saying is not even. Yeah, of course I've done that. That was like a real like get older in life, push myself beyond my comfort because that's not how I was. I really, I think it is very interesting, like those people who were raised to know how to do things like that and people who just weren't well, but.

[B]

And now that you've done it and probably will do it again multiple times, you're now going to impart that wisdom to your daughter on why you made that decision. Right? That's the piece. It's not having the money, right. To make an investment. It's making the decision on how to make the money work on your behalf. Right. Because getting money, it's hard. Like, I'm not going to say it's not hard. It is hard to get money, it's hard to make money, but it's even harder to keep money.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

[B]

Like that a lot of times, like how many people have you seen athletes, artists otherwise, that got a lot of money but didn't manage it the right way?

[C]

I mean, we've seen this story.

[B]

I mean, hell, we're still. We weren't we the other week talking about Floyd Mayweather?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I don't even, My brain doesn't even know how that happens or that your

[A]

brain can't, that that's beyond understanding how one could lose a billion dollars.

[B]

But when you're giving it to people or you know, buying a bunch of things that lose money or, you know, not paying your credit lines or taxes

[A]

or whatever, I do think A lot of people, though, do have that attitude of. Because getting money is hard. Once you're able to get any and stack it, and whether in a bank account, under your pillow, whatever it is, they see that as the win. Like, you see your bank account go up and you're like, yes, great, my bank account's going up. Specifically. Now holding on to cash is losing you money.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

More now than previously.

[C]

I'm more like you, though. I'm a scaredy cat. See, Ricardo is like. He takes chances and he believes and he.

[A]

It's in his DNA, and he's been

[C]

successful and then he's had losses, but he's like, it's okay.

[A]

Like, he plans, it comes and it goes and it's. But, like, overall, I'm up.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

So it's okay.

[C]

But me, I'm just like. Just in case everything blows up, I got this here. Like, you know, that's how I am. I'm a little bit more reserved. You know, I'm like, he takes.

[B]

I'm with you, Laura.

[C]

I look at him and honestly, I admire how he takes chances. And I'm like, wow, that was a good deal. Like, damn. You know what I mean? Maybe you should have done more. And then I'm like, maybe you shouldn't. I'm the scaredy cat.

[A]

Yeah. No, I see it. I feel that way about Rick, too. I see him doing stuff. I'm like, whoa, that's interesting. I wonder how it's gonna play out. I'd be scared to do that. Right. You know, it's not in my DNA. But I do try to push back against it, to try sometimes.

[C]

I get it.

[B]

Yeah. I wouldn't be yourself.

[A]

No, but you don't want to completely be.

[B]

You can't.

[A]

Then I would have a property, though. I wouldn't do anything.

[B]

No, but you did it. I think. I think you did it in a way that was smart for you. That's my point.

[A]

No, sure, sure.

[B]

That's what I mean.

[A]

When I be yourself, I'm not gonna go crazy and be like, this is completely, completely wild. But no, it's more like, I'm gonna overthink it. I'm gonna go for something really smart, but I'm going to ignore if my parents are scared.

[B]

Yeah, that's.

[A]

That's not.

[B]

But it's also, like, you did the due diligence, right? And for anybody watching this conversation, like, you know, listen, ask questions. Like, I. I still ask a lot of people questions. I don't know how stuff works. And People look at me like, you don't know how it works. I'll be like, nah, I don't get it. I still don't fucking understand many songwriters and shit that I know. I don't fucking understand publishing and fucking all that shit. How they make. I don't. I don't understand at all. I don't get it.

[A]

You're still working on figuring out the word cinephile, you know, ever since.

[B]

Makes no sense.

[A]

Makes no sense here. He mentioned cinephile. You've been looking it up ever since.

[B]

But do what? Do what's good for you. And then I will say this too. And I know I was just talking to my. About this the other day at the Jay Z concert, who. Who has had small success in investing. And he was basically like, I was always told to invest in what you love.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Invest in things that you use and what you love.

[C]

That's very much Ricardo. That's his very much. That's the way he sees things.

[A]

Yeah, listen, I'm not gonna lie. Ricardo makes me want to buy a random car every once in a while. I'm like, yo, maybe I will get that 19 and put it where Isuzu Trooper.

[B]

I want it. I want it.

[A]

But put it where I know exactly. I'll be like, that could be cool.

[B]

Because I get the same kind of feeling when I see it. And I'm like, okay, when am I. What day do I drive this car? And where do I put it?

[A]

And you're paying now to keep it.

[B]

I'm paying to keep it. Paying to keep it up.

[A]

I can't even manage to. I really need to upgrade the size of my car, especially after this weekend. Going to dc, bro. You take a trip right now with a smaller size SUV or sedan. There's so much crap by the end, and I can't even bring myself to go to the full size SUV because I see what Ebro pays in the garage, and I'm like, that's $20 more than every day. Every time you go, they want 50 to park every.

[C]

Such a scam.

[A]

It's such a scam, bro.

[C]

Such a scam.

[B]

But. And they're hitting you, and you ain't got no choice.

[A]

And you got no choice. Your garage at home, do they charge you more?

[B]

No, no, we have a garage.

[A]

You have your own?

[B]

Yes. So for your car, I own, like, as part of owning my place. Place.

[A]

I have my place. I get a discounted garage rate.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But if I get the big car, I'm now paying a higher discounted.

[B]

Well, why would you. Why do you want a bigger car?

[A]

Because the.

[B]

Which. Let me actually, let me ask you this way. Which items in your car now that you have Maya, the car seat makes

[A]

the whole car uncomfortable.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

The whole car.

[A]

It makes, it makes the seat in front of it uncomfortable.

[B]

That's right. You have to move forward.

[A]

No, like a lot for her to not have a seat pushing against her. And then you want to go sit up front. It's not a comfortable situation. It stretches into. It's just. There's no. The trunk space isn't good.

[B]

So on that, on that note, on that note, Maya is how old?

[A]

But there's going to be. If there's not Maya, there's probably gonna be someone else at some point.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

You know what I mean? So what I don't want to like.

[B]

Well, I was gonna say because the car seat. When the kids get bigger, the car seats get a little bit more. Instead of leaning this way, they get a little bit more smaller and.

[A]

And straight up.

[B]

And more straight up and not as. And so. And then also like pack and plays strollers. These kind of other things that you have.

[A]

You don't have as much.

[B]

Have as much stuff. So that stuff goes away. So if you were going to get a bigger car and it happens fast. I mean my.

[A]

When does it. When do.

[B]

When do you like two, two and a half. But you. If you're going to have another kid, then, yeah, you're going to be back.

[A]

So by the kid is like two plus you're not bringing a stroller anymore at all.

[B]

Some people do like I bring a little smaller, more compact one now.

[C]

Like umbrella stroller.

[B]

Yeah, there you go.

[A]

Well, that's literally like a cloth that they like lay in. Like an old school stroller when we were kids.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you only needed.

[B]

When they're exhausted, like they get tired. Because I'm always encouraging Selassie to walk. I need you walking. All this carrying and all that. We rapping this up.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

You got fresh legs. Your legs are brand new. Use them. Let's go.

[C]

After doing. I was like, we're walking. We're walking everywhere.

[A]

Yeah, that's a fair point. Once you're like the size of the stroller. But I sometimes I see kids in those.

[B]

Nah, bro. Hanging all out the stroller. Mad big bro.

[A]

Their legs look. I'm like, that's a kid. That's just a kid in a. Getting a ride.

[C]

I know.

[A]

What are we doing?

[C]

One time I had somebody be judgmental. The only reason I brought a stroller because I went to Japan and the time difference. And I even was debating where.

[B]

That's smart though, but.

[C]

And even I'm debating this time, should I bring it? Because, you know, they're still adjusting to the time difference and to carry Kenza right now at like 6pm, bro. No, I want to go to dinner. I'll throw her in the stroller. And you could just be a big ass kid laying there. That's the only time I would do that.

[B]

That's very smart. I, I never thought of that. The time, the time difference.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Never.

[C]

And it caught up to me. I, me, Ricardo was like, oh my God, great call. And she was knocked out while we were at the restaurant because, you know, they can't hold up at like, we do, you know.

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[C]

I was like, thank God I did it.

[A]

That's a very good call.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

These are all things to think about.

[C]

All right.

[A]

Oh, yeah, we're already there.

[B]

Well, that's why I had to, you know, I wanted to point out some rare conditions. Just don't call it a podcast.