158.) Dealing With Grief + Don’t Rush To Be A Grownup (8/7/26)

Summary

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The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show

Episode 158: Dealing With Grief + Don’t Rush To Be A Grownup
Release Date: August 7, 2026
Hosts: Ebro Darden, Laura Stylez, Peter Rosenberg

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Episode Overview

In this emotionally resonant and often humorous episode, Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg tackle two central themes: dealing with grief—particularly loss within the family—and offering a candid reality check for kids eager to grow up too fast. The trio read and respond to heartfelt listener emails covering grief, gratitude, and the stress of modern adult life. As always, their characteristic warmth, relatability, and unfiltered banter make for a deeply engaging listen.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Listener Email: Grieving the Loss of a Sibling

[01:55–04:01]

• Wilner's Letter: A longtime listener, Wilner, shares his recent loss—his big sister Carla passed away. He asks for advice on coping, especially as a parent to a young child.
  • Laura responds with sincere empathy:

    "Wilner, sending you love. Hug that child... Love on that child more, you know, and also feel all the feels and grieve and be patient with yourself." (Laura Rosenberg, 03:15)

  • Ebro emphasizes the complexity of grief:

    "Grief is weird. It comes in waves. It hits you when you least expect it. So don't think that this is something like, you’re gonna be okay... It doesn’t work that way. Just be patient with yourself and your feelings." (Ebro, 03:30–03:49)

  • Rosenberg highlights the lifelong impact:

    "That older sibling thing, that’s a journey for the rest of your life." (Rosemary, 03:55)

Notable Moment:
The hosts collectively reinforce the importance of self-compassion and patience through grief, especially while parenting.

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2. Listener Email: Gratitude, Healing, and Found Family

[04:01–06:10]

• Anonymous Listener's Story: A long-time supporter shares gratitude for the show’s honest conversations, especially about infertility and healing after multiple rounds of IVF. She details her journey becoming a "bonus mom" to her husband’s daughter and requests tickets to Envision Fest.
  • Laura reads the email, expressing gratitude for community and the show’s supportive environment.
  • Ebro is touched:

    "Oh, I love this." (Ebro, 05:19)

  • The team highlights the significance of impactful, inclusive events like Envision Fest.
  • Info and support for ticket access are provided:

    "You can get the tickets at envisionfestival.com..." (Ebro, 06:10)

Notable Moment:
Ebro reflects on the importance of grassroots initiatives and serving youth who need support—driven not by money, but by fulfillment:

"It fills my heart. Like, I love it...I’m not making anybody off of this... Those are the moments that are special to me, you know." (Ebro, 07:14–08:04)

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3. The Realities and Rewards of Purpose-Driven Work

[06:23–09:17]

• Discussion about organizing Envision Fest, emphasizing community service over profit or recognition.

• Laura underlines that fulfillment—not financial reward—is the true payoff:

  "To be able to...do something that you’re having fun with, and you don't have to do it to pay bills–that is a luxury." (Laura Rosenberg, 08:09–08:33)

• Rosenberg jumps in:

  "A lot of people do not have time to do anything in their life that’s not done specifically...to get paid to do..." (Rosemary, 08:33)

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4. The Aggravations of Adulthood: Home Repairs and Modern Consumerism

[09:21–15:03]

• Rosenberg shares a frustrating personal story about AC unit repairs—overpriced replacements, impractical home design, and the hassle of homeownership.
• Laura parallels with appliance repairs, noting companies’ shift from fixing parts to forcing full replacements:

  "These companies don’t do that anymore. They want to sell you a whole new cabinet system." (Laura Rosenberg, 12:25) "They want to force you to buy a whole new thing." (Laura Rosenberg, 13:14)

• The segment shifts into a wider discussion about how modern adulthood demands constant maintenance, problem-solving, and skepticism as a consumer.
• The hosts joke about their own naiveté (“play yourself” moments) and crowdsource advice from listeners.

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5. Childhood vs. Adulthood: Don’t Rush to Grow Up

[15:03–19:01]

• Rosenberg laments adult burdens and jokes about kids’ naive desire to be older:

  "I hate adulthood, bro. It’s really the kids...they don’t know how good it is." (Rosemary, 15:04)

• Laura, referencing her daughter Issa’s birthday, underscores the unpaid “invisible labor” of daily adulthood:

  "I often tell her...the detail that it takes to have a day...and show her...all the things I gotta pay for..." (Laura Rosenberg, 15:43–16:31)

• Ebro shares a practical teaching tool—a friend made her child track every dollar she spent in a day to reveal adult life’s financial complexity:

  "So at the end of the day, he was keeping track and he was like, oh my God." (Ebro, 16:39)

• Rosenberg stresses that letting kids glimpse real adult stress is a kindness—it extends their childhood rather than spoiling it.
• The team discuss gradually introducing children to responsibility, giving examples from their own families.

Memorable Moment:
Laura describes involving her toddler in chores to build healthy habits:

"After she eats, rice will be on the floor, we’ll give her the little handy vac and...she wants to do it for now." (Laura Rosenberg, 18:22)

• The hosts wrap up with humor about unpredictable children:

  "She might be like, hey, yo, dad, why don’t you pick up your own bitch ass trash?" (Rosemary, 18:50)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Grief:

• "Grief is weird. It comes in waves. It hits you when you least expect it. So don't think that this is something like, you’re gonna be okay...It doesn’t work that way." (Ebro, 03:30–03:49)

On Doing Purposeful Work:

• "To be able to...do something that you’re having fun with, and you don't have to do it to pay bills–that is a luxury." (Laura Rosenberg, 08:09–08:33)

On Adulthood:

• "I hate adulthood, bro. It’s really the kids...they don’t know how good it is." (Rosemary, 15:04)
• "Kids want to be older. They think it’s gonna be so dope. Even when you’re Usher...you’re still a human. On earth. We all breathe the same oxygen." (Laura Rosenberg, 15:36–15:40)

On Parenting and Teaching Responsibility:

• "I encourage you...Don’t rush to this grown-up thing. Do not try to speed this up.” (Laura Rosenberg, 15:47–16:31)

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Key Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|-----------------------------------------------------| | 01:55 | Listener email: Grieving a sibling (Wilner's story) | | 04:01 | Email: Gratitude, healing, and Envision Fest | | 06:23 | The stress/reward of running Envision Fest | | 09:21 | Rosenberg’s woes: AC repairs and adulthood gripes | | 15:03 | Why kids shouldn’t rush adulthood | | 17:45 | Parenting, chores, and teaching responsibility | | 18:50 | Closing family banter and transitions |

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Conclusion

This episode is a heartfelt blend of real talk on loss, finding fulfillment, and de-glamorizing adult life for the upcoming generation. The hosts’ personal anecdotes, audience engagement, and candid advice make this an essential listen for fans navigating parenting, grief, or just the grind of everyday life.

For more content, family updates, and to support the show:

• Subscribe via Patreon
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Transcript

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[Laura Rosenberg]

Just don't call it a podcast, Okay? Now listen. Ebro Laura rosenbergmail. You know Fridays. We like to read your emails. We like to get your voice notes. We like to see your beautiful faces and hear your voices. I want to shout out to Wilner. He says he's been listening to us as long as he can remember on his way to school with his siblings. He's writing in hoping we could give him a shout out to his big sister Carla because She passed away last Thursday.

[Rosemary]

Oh, man.

[Ebro]

I'm sorry.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I know everyone on the program has been dealing with loss as of late, and I always listened empathetically, but also part of me hoping I wouldn't have to go through it. It's been. It's been tough. Think about how much life there is left to live and how much. And how much of it I'm gonna have to do without her. Any and all advice on how to hold this immeasurable weight, but also how to do it with a small child without walking around the house like a zombie. That's from Wilner. Well, Wilner sending you love. Hug that child.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Love on that child more, you know, and also feel all the feels and. And. And grieve and be patient with yourself. Right? That's. That's the best advice. Right?

[Ebro]

Like just one day at a time

[Laura Rosenberg]

and accept what you can't control.

[Ebro]

Yeah. It's really. It. There is no real answer. And grief is weird. It comes in waves. It hits you when you least expect it. So don't. Don't think that this is something like, you're gonna be okay. Oh, it's been. It's been a couple months. I should be fine. Like, it doesn't work that way. So just be patient with yourself and your feelings because this was his tough.

[Rosemary]

He said his older sibling.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. Says to his big sister Carla.

[Ebro]

Yes.

[Rosemary]

That's. I mean, listen, the. That older sibling thing, that's. That's a journey for the rest of your life.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Rosemary]

So I don't know.

[Laura Rosenberg]

There's no. But shoot us your emails. Also, Ebro, Laura Rosenberg at Gmail. Laura, did you read this? Anonymous. Oh, overdue. Thank you. And Envision Fest.

[Ebro]

No, read it, read it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I am a Fox longtime listener and Patreon subscriber.

[Rosemary]

Patreoni, if you will.

[Laura Rosenberg]

There you go. I honestly don't remember how many years I've been watching this show, but I know it goes back before young Issa was born. First and foremost, thank you for everything you do. This thank you is long overdue. And since I was finally writing in, I didn't want to let it go unsaid. I don't have children of my own. I went through three rounds of IVF before I had to stop physically and emotionally. It took me a long time to grieve and heal from it, and you guys discussing it on the show helped with some of that healing.

[Ebro]

Oh, I'm happy.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But I've been blessed to have nieces, nephews, cousins, God, children who Fill my life. And honestly, watching your kids grow up on the show has been part of that too. So thank you for letting us be a part of that. Oh, she says. Six years ago, I started dating the man who's now my husband. We got married earlier this month. He came with my now bonus daughter.

[Ebro]

Okay, okay.

[Rosemary]

Love to hear that.

[Laura Rosenberg]

She was 10 when we met. She turned 16 this year. She has had added so much to my life and I'm grateful every day to be her bonus mom.

[Ebro]

Oh, I love this.

[Laura Rosenberg]

The reason I'm actually writing in is because I am trying to get four Envision Fest tickets. You got it for myself, my bonus daughter and my friend and her niece. I'm happy to pay for the tickets, but if you threw in a free ticket or two, I wouldn't complain. Thank you for helping us be informed on everything from sports to politics to pop culture to foreign affairs for the laughs and for letting us feel a part of the extended family with so much gratitude. Oh, and Ebro went live with Issa and Salasi a few months back. I joined the live. He said hi to me. I called all my family and friends and let them know I was now famous. Thanks for the shout out you bro. Love you guys.

[Ebro]

Love you too.

[Laura Rosenberg]

This person's anonymous. So Griff, if you have the email from anonymous and the subject is overdue, thank you. And Envision Fest. Yeah, we got to shoot them.

[Ebro]

Yeah, shoot. Shoot her to me, Griff, so I can. I can write back to her. That's beautiful. And for you can get the tickets are@envision festival.com if you're looking to purchase ENVSN festival.com.

[Laura Rosenberg]

so what's your biggest stress going into the weekend for Envision?

[Ebro]

You know, just all the stress of running a. A big festival and I'm in charge of so many things and so many people, but overall, I just want people to show up and enjoy. It's my job. I would, I was, I'm keep it real with you. I was a little nervous because I'm not on the radio anymore, you know, so I was able to talk about it and I would reach a certain amount of people. So just the promotions because I don't have any. I don't have promotional money. You know what I mean? So everything is grassroots. Guys hold me down. Post for me. Tell a friend to tell a friend. So I was nervous about the promo. So I just want people to show up to see the good work that we do.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Where would you rank doing this work in your life?

[Ebro]

What do you mean?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Not like the full, like, not the. I mean, the labor is labor. Like, it's hard, but I mean, like the, the end result and the. And the satisfaction. Satisfaction.

[Ebro]

It fills my heart. Like, I love it. I mean, guys, I am not making anybody off of this, you know, so for me to be doing it for seven years, Sharifa and I bust our asses. But the. We have moments where we have certain young folks come up to us and tell us about something super positive, how we impact them. Those are the moments that are special to me, you know, So I. I deal with youth getting kicked out of their home for being. For their sexuality. I deal with, you know, young kids who are straight going through poverty. You know, I deal with kids coming from a single. A single parent household who just, you know, would like to be a part of something and can't because of finances. So all of. Is something that I, you know, Ricardo always says, you can't help everybody, but you're doing a good job of doing what you can. So it's really fulfilling for me.

[Rosemary]

Well, and this one is gonna be a smashing success.

[Ebro]

Thank you, Rosenberg.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I admire and am very proud of us. Cause we get to do things that fulfill us and we don't do it for the money. Like to be at a place where you could do something that you're having fun with and you don't have to do it to, like, you don't have to do it to pay bills. I think it's something that you should stop and like, kind of revel in. Because that is a luxury.

[Rosemary]

Right. A lot of people do not have time to do anything in their life that's not done specifically.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I have to get paid to do. You know what I'm saying?

[Rosemary]

Yeah, yeah. Whereas.

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[Rosemary]

And certainly getting paid for things that you just love to do.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Right. Is.

[Rosemary]

Is.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's a super privilege.

[Rosemary]

That's the super.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But to be able to. Hell, even this program, like, it's not like we're doing this because it's paying our bills. We're doing this because we. We like being around each other and we like providing a service and we have y' all who tune in and support and pay. And we're going to be jumping over on Patreon, which helps us pay the staff here and pay for the space and all that stuff. But you watching and subscribing and emailing and providing us with your, you know, stories and your time is really, I think the. At least right now it is the payoff.

[Ebro]

Yeah, that's right.

[Rosemary]

I'm so Annoyed right now.

[Ebro]

Why?

[Rosemary]

Because I recently had someone come over to service our air conditioning units that are like, you know, they're like, they're like built. They're not out of central air.

[Laura Rosenberg]

They're like built in the wall.

[Rosemary]

They're built in the wall. They're not window units.

[Laura Rosenberg]

They're built in the wall.

[Rosemary]

And the guy came to service them and was like, have you cleaned these? And I was like, no, I've cleaned the filter before, but like, I haven't cleaned the machine.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, you pull the little thing out, you clean the. Take the stuff off the filter, you

[Rosemary]

put it back, right? He's like, yeah, but they're dirty and like the machines themselves are like dirty and here. And there's great. Showed us pictures, like gross black shit. It's all like nasty and stuff. And I'm like, all right. And he's like, yeah, well, I wouldn't use these. You should replace them. Of course. This is from the company who sold them to us by, by the way,

[Laura Rosenberg]

which wants you to buy more.

[Rosemary]

Correct. So like five minutes later I get an estimate from them, $8,900 to, you know, replace all three.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Rosemary]

I don't fully buy this. You could clean it, but it'll be expensive. You have to take them out, you know, blah, blah, blah. And this is where I'd love to get feedback from anyone in the El army who might know something and be like, no, here's what you need to do. So here's the problem. I reach out to the guy, the contractor who built the enclosures around my things. And the enclosures they built are not meant to be taken off. Oh, I'll have to like destroy them to take out the units, whether I'm cleaning them or replacing them.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So that's a whole nother experience.

[Rosemary]

I have three of them. I have to.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So does anyone else in your building have what you have?

[Rosemary]

Yes.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And what are they doing?

[Rosemary]

They. I don't know. I have to ask around. But from talking to a handyman in my building, it sounds like the people who he knows who have them, the enclosures they have are like removable.

[Ebro]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rosemary]

So I just wrote back to the guy who did it and I said, can I ask why you would have built enclosures that never accounted for having to get to the units ever again? I didn't know what I was doing. I was a first time home buyer. My ex wife was doing the design of the place. We didn't know. I just didn't real. Not something I think about, like oh, you're gonna have to replace these one day or clean them.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Rosemary]

So you're telling me there's no way. So in order for me to do one of these, I have to basically do surgery. And I have three in my house, and they're all in. You know, one's in the living room, one's in my bedroom, one's in my baby's room.

[Ebro]

What did he say? He's like, well, you didn't ask.

[Rosemary]

I just wrote that to him as we were starting the show. I was like, can I ask you why? And, like, also, what do you suggest I do? Right? He's like, but it's just Sheetrock and paper paint. It's not that big a deal. I'm like, okay, but how do I do that? I have to hire a contractor. And by the way, if you say it's not that big a deal, I bet if we look at the cost that you charge me to build those enclosures, I bet I paid, like, it was a big deal.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, so I was having this conversation with Jazz the other day about washers and dryers, refrigerators, you know, getting a handyman to, like, you know, you get the mildew, and then the mildew gets in the caulking around the thing, and you're, like, trying to scrub it with a toothbrush and then getting some. Somebody to redo the caulking in your bathroom. But I don't want a full bathroom redone. Can you just, like, come do. All right, fine. I'll do it myself. Like, so, fixing a little loose cabinet. Like, we had the little childproof things on the cabinet. Right. Took them off. It damaged a little outside of the cabinet now. And she's like, well, can't we just buy, like, a door? I was like, these companies don't do that anymore. They want to sell you a whole new cabinet system. So several. You know, probably a decade ago, these companies got wise. They don't want to fix your thing. They want to force you to buy a new thing. The fan in the little refrigerator, the fans acting up. Oh, we don't make that anymore. You know why you don't make it anymore? Because you want to force people to buy a whole new thing.

[Rosemary]

Well, and so you telling me. Yes. And within that. So you're telling me that the dirtiness that happened around this unit doesn't happen. Like, I would have needed to know how to get in there and clean that already. And even though we're.

[Laura Rosenberg]

If he hits you back and says, well, that's just how I Thought it needed to be done. You got played, Rosemary.

[Rosemary]

Right?

[Laura Rosenberg]

You played yourself. Well, yeah, you played yourself because you just went with something and didn't ask a bunch of questions.

[Rosemary]

But. But I'm just saying from the AC unit standpoint, there's no. So we ordered the spray. I haven't used it yet. We looked online and there is like a foam that you can spray into machines like this and it cleans it. That will supposedly clean it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Do you have to leave the house to make sure that the chemicals don't come in the house?

[Rosemary]

I don't think so. I think it's safe. But you do have to. I do have to disconnect the unit, like completely and leave it off for a while because it's wet or whatever. But like, do I. Can I try that? Are you telling me that just cuz it's dirty inside, even though the filters clean, like the dirt's gonna be sprayed into my home.

[Laura Rosenberg]

There's a YouTube video on this.

[Rosemary]

Has to be, right?

[Laura Rosenberg]

There's a. There's someone on IG who specializes this. And that's the other thing that went on. Everything went diy, right. So the Home Depots and all this shit are now convinced that you could fix it yourself.

[Rosemary]

Well, and is there someone out there who doesn't work for Hamilton Air who's like, nah, if you give me a little space, I can get in there and clean that for you. You don't need to power wash it. You just need someone who can get in and like. Because I could take the front vents off, like, there are ways to get into parts of it. You just can't get the whole thing out without destroying my house.

[Ebro]

Yeah, you're in a pickle.

[Rosemary]

I hate adulthood, bro. It's really the kids. The kids don't know how good it is, bro. When I see Maya's joy at things in life, I'm like, man, you don't know.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You have no idea.

[Rosemary]

And kids want to be older. They think it's gonna be so dope. Even when you're. Even. I saw a video the other day of Usher walking down the street with his wife shopping. He was just walking. He had a little water bottle behind his back. He was just kind of just looking like an annoyed husband. And I'm like, even when you're Usher.

[Pharmaceutical Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You're still a human. On earth. We all breathe the same oxygen.

[Rosemary]

An adult human.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Rosemary]

Because kids don't know what it is to walk down the street.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I try to let you. Listen, Issa turning 12 this weekend. Happy birthday to Issa.

[Rosemary]

Yay.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yay. And if you lock into the Patreon, you know, we'll get to some family matters coming up, which we'll jump over to in a second. But I often tell her, like, you know, and show her the. The detail that it takes to have a day. This is what I got to do today. I got to go here. I got to drive there. I got to go over here. I gotta pick this up. Here's all the things I gotta pay for. Here's all I. I encourage you. And I know people are. Let them be kids. Yeah. It's overrated. You need to know, don't rush to this grown up thing. Do not try to speed this up.

[Ebro]

I had a friend who had her 12 year old basically spend the whole day with her, calculating every single dollar she spent.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yep.

[Ebro]

So at the end of the day, he was like. He was keeping track, and he was like, oh, my God. Like that. It was a good one.

[Rosemary]

That's a good one, too. But also to your point, it's good to just appreciate by telling them how hard adulthood is early, you actually are extending their childhood.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Rosemary]

And saying, like, not to mention, if you're someone who is lucky enough to come from means, yo, go to school, do all the education you can, because the longer you're educating, the more you're really getting to avoid some of the. Just every day. And this. And this is from people who have great jobs. Not even like the people in the El army right now who are, like, listening to us while they're doing straight up manual labor.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. Or on their way to do manual labor.

[Rosemary]

So.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. And listen. Yeah. I mean, for your kids out there, expose them to what? Adult. Just a little taste. They don't need to.

[Rosemary]

Right. Not every.

[Laura Rosenberg]

All the stress, but just a little taste of what a day actually is. Like.

[Rosemary]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You know, and do it when you're not frustrated. It don't wait until it's like, you don't know what I'm going through. No, no, no. You should just be like, yo, you think being grown up's easy, huh? Yeah.

[Rosemary]

Come for a day.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Or spend today with me. You know, it could even be a Saturday. Sometimes it's just like, all right, let's make the grocery list. Let's. You know what I'm saying? Let's go to the store, let's fill up the tank. Hey, and I give. Even right now, Salasi's two and a half. You got a couple of things I need you to do. Daddy needs your help. Daddy needs your help. Will you help Daddy right now? I need. Here, take this to the trash. Hey, we're gonna clean this up here. You do this, and it's nothing. She. She'll get down and clean something up off the floor or help, like, we give her, like, after she eats. And rice will be on the floor. We'll give it a little handy vac and she'll, you know, cleaning up her little rice. And she wants to do it for now.

[Rosemary]

Right?

[Laura Rosenberg]

You know, I mean.

[Rosemary]

Right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But she also, I think, sees, you know, Issa's at that age. Issa will just jump up and take out the trash. She sees the trash is full, she's take it out. Or if there's dishes in the. In the sink, she'll just knock them out. Or when she puts her stuff in the sink, she'll knock it out. But these are stuff we've been working on since she was like, five, six years old, Right? You know, I mean, so you gotta kinda give them a little something and make it like they're helping you.

[Rosemary]

And you also don't never know if Solassi's gonna end up being like Issa.

[Laura Rosenberg]

She may not.

[Rosemary]

She might be like, hey, yo, dad, why don't you pick up your own bitch ass trash?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I hope she tries.

[Rosemary]

You wish a selassie would.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I wish it would. Let's see how that goes.

[Rosemary]

But speaking of family.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Rosemary]

Patreon time.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Let's go.

[Ebro]

All right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Hey, family Friday. Thanks for jumping over on the behind the paywall reading good news on the newspaper page. Love and tradition. Sing it, Rose singing.

[Ebro]

Bye, guys.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Don't call in the podcast.