18.) Don Lemon Streaming From Church + New A$AP Rocky (1/20/26)

Summary

The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show: Ep. 18 – Don Lemon Streaming From Church + New A$AP Rocky (1/20/26)

Date: January 20, 2026
Hosts: Ebro Darden, Laura Stylez, Peter Rosenberg
Guests/Panelists: Rahsaan, Ali Jackson, Don Lemon (clip)
Episode Theme:
This rich, fast-paced episode covers recent political absurdities, viral moments in hip hop, the evolving news landscape, and—most dramatically—the Don Lemon/Nicki Minaj feud that erupted over Lemon’s live broadcast from an ICE-linked church protest. The hosts also discuss notable hip hop icons, music releases, and the challenges of navigating friendships in the age of political polarization.

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

The show tackles:

• Don Lemon's viral church protest coverage and ensuing beef with Nicki Minaj
• The shifting trust in news and “fact fatigue”
• Notable hip hop events, including a tribute to the man behind Public Enemy’s logo
• The contemporary state of alliances, protests, and activism
• Personal struggles with political division and friendship
• Latest music drops: A$AP Rocky, T.I., French Montana, Fat Joe
• Show announcements: Patreon launch, merch updates

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & SEGMENTS

1. Sports Kicks Off: Buffalo Bills Head Coach Firing

[02:03 – 04:20]

• The hosts empathize with Bills fans over another playoff disappointment and the firing of head coach Sean McDermott.
• Ebro makes a playful dig at the narrative that Josh Allen “will be fine” because of his famous partner.
  • Quote: “At a certain point, you have the guy who might be the best quarterback in the world. ... And this is like six straight years of the same thing.” – Ebro [02:25]

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2. Washington D.C.: Political Installations & International Tensions

[04:20 – 10:49]

• Laura brings up a provocative birthday card installation referencing Trump and Epstein, sparking commentary on ongoing political drama and deflection from serious issues like the recent bombing in Nigeria.
• The group discusses the absurd logic behind U.S. Greenland claims, likening it to playground arguments.
  • Quote: “He literally negotiates like a five year old.” – Laura [06:37]
• Shifting U.S. foreign relations are explored: the changing “world order,” Canada’s new alliances, and Europe’s militaristic posturing in response to America’s unpredictability.
  • Quote: “This whole country respects, as Stephen Miller laid out, is military might. That's what makes us a country. ... Who has the nukes?” – Ebro [10:15]

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3. Industry & Hip Hop News

[10:49 – 13:26]

• The panel clarifies the so-called “tension” between Fat Joe and French Montana as an exaggerated headline.
  • Quote: “French Montana does not have tense exchanges. He's like Bob Dylan. French has become the Bob Dylan of hip hop.” – Ebro [12:02]
• Laura teases her upcoming interview with A$AP Rocky at Apple Music, discussing how critics often miss Rocky’s consistent musical experimentation.

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4. Music Critique, Online Discourse & Review Culture

[13:26 – 18:52]

• The hosts reflect on the way music is discussed, pointing out the proliferation of uncritical social media reactions.
  • Quote: “Sometimes you’re right, some of it is just a conversation starter.” – Laura [16:13]
• Concerns are raised over the increasing difficulty in validating information online, both in music and in news.

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5. Media Trust, News Aggregators, and Fact Overload

[19:02 – 26:50]

• “Fact check fatigue” sets in as the hosts describe the struggle to distinguish credible sources.
  • Quote: “Even a Complex… now do some real articles, but some of it is aggregated fake crap.” – Ebro [19:13]
• Laura introduces the Ground News app, highlighting its ability to show the political lean of news sources.
• The group considers media bias and echoes the challenges of navigating partisanship.
  • Quote: “Everybody's gang related out here. Red or blue.” – Laura [26:26]

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6. Rundown: Super Bowl Opening, Gervonta Davis, and the Don Lemon/Nicki Minaj Beef

[27:12 – 33:03]

• Green Day performing “America the Beautiful” at the Super Bowl in the Bay Area excites the panel.
• Gervonta Davis stripped of his title following domestic violence allegations.
  • Quote: “It's like [domestic abuse] equals his hand of… issues.” – Ebro [28:58]

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Don Lemon Streaming From Church: Event & Fallout

[29:19 – 33:03]

• Don Lemon covers a protest at a Minneapolis church; the pastor is also an ICE officer.
• Lemon clarifies on stream: “I'm not part of the protest. I'm just here to report on it.” – [30:33]
• Nicki Minaj unleashes a highly charged, homophobic tweet at Don Lemon.
• Don Lemon responds fiercely:
  • Quote: "You are a homophobic bigot. You don't care about African Americans. You're not an African American. ... Social gay people shouldn't buy your music. Clock that." – Don Lemon [32:06]

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7. Should Activists Protest in Churches? Legal & Moral Debate

[35:05 – 49:19]

• Ebro questions the appropriateness of church protests; Laura and Rahsaan highlight the disruptive nature of activism but note protests often break laws intentionally.
  • Quote: “When activists activate and protesters protest, I don't think they're... reading some sort of rule book on where they should or should not show up.” – Laura [35:39]
• Federal laws (and the possible use of the Ku Klux Klan Act) invoked against Lemon raise stakes.
  • Quote: “So the Department of Justice said they're going after him and they're invoking The Ku Klux Klan Act.” – Ebro [38:34]
• Deaf Ant (video clip) explains the historical context of the act and accuses the Trump administration of weaponizing it for political purposes.

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8. Nicki Minaj’s Alliances, Changing Fanbases, and LGBTQ+ Betrayal

[45:18 – 46:17]

• Rosenberg expresses dismay at Minaj using a slur against Lemon, noting her early support from LGBTQ+ fans.
  • Quote: “That is such a crazy thing to do... when so much of her early support came from the gay community.” – Rosenberg [46:05]

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9. Navigating Friendships in Divided Times: Guru Segment

[53:03 – 60:46]

• Listener email: A Mexican American grapples with maintaining friendships with Trump-supporting white friends.
• Advice: Have an honest, empathetic conversation with friends about painful issues. If the response is unsatisfying, it's okay to walk away.
  • Quote: “You need to have a conversation about what's hurting you and the fact that you can't talk to two people you consider your friends because of this.” – Laura [59:58]

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10. Announcements: Merch, Patreon, Community

[61:06 – end]

• Merch is being shipped out, though packaging is “basic.”
• Patreon is now live, with bonus content dropping the next day.
  • Quote: “The first Patreon exclusive content is coming at you... tomorrow.” – Ebro [62:03]
• The team teases behind-the-scenes shenanigans, music discussions, and interactive features for Patreon supporters.

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NOTABLE QUOTES & MOMENTS

• On U.S. Global Posture:
  “Is it great yet? Because saying I didn't get the Peace Prize, so I don't really feel like I need to choose peace is… I’d like to choose peace, but I don't have to anymore.” — Ebro [06:20]

• On News Fatigue:
  “I have fact check fatigue… my friends just send me stuff, ‘Is this real?’ Is this true?’ Look it up. You have the same phone I do.” — Rahsaan [19:02]

• On Don Lemon/Minaj:
  “Don went through and read her Wikipedia page fast. It was like, I got her!” — Ebro [33:10] “Nikki, could you be getting worse by the day? Why are you coming after him and saying something that's veiled or not-so-veiled homophobia?” — Rosenberg [46:05]

• On Church/Protest Debate:
  “I don't believe that the people who showed up at this church meant to do any harm to worshipers... They literally just walked in and were looking for the pastor and wanted to give him a piece of his mind.” — Laura [48:33]

• On Music Review Culture:
  “Are these the kind of reviewers that there's a picture of the album behind them and then they're inset?” — Ebro [15:31]

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TIMESTAMPS FOR IMPORTANT SEGMENTS

• Bills’ Coach Firing and Sports Chat: [02:03 – 04:20]
• Political Art in D.C.; U.S. Foreign Policy Riff: [04:20 – 10:49]
• Hip Hop News – Fat Joe/French Montana/Logos: [10:49 – 13:26, 19:58 – 22:52]
• Fact/Fake News Discussion: [19:02 – 26:50]
• Don Lemon Church Protest, Legal/Ethical Implications: [29:19 – 38:34]
• Legal History / KKK Act Explanation: [43:27 – 44:36]
• Nicki Minaj's Response and LGBTQ+ Reflection: [46:05]
• Friendship & Political Divide Advice Segment: [53:03 – 60:46]
• Show Announcements: Merch & Patreon: [61:06 – end]

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PODCAST TONE & STYLE

• Candid, irreverent, smart, and full of banter
• Regularly employs humor, pop culture references, and direct call-and-response (“Hit the button!”)
• Incorporates diverse perspectives, encourages debate, and keeps origins and authenticity central

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Summary for New Listeners:
This episode is emblematic of the Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show’s style: tackling controversial news and pop culture events with seriousness, humor, and honesty. The hosts don’t shy away from direct conflict—whether it's breaking down Don Lemon’s very public beef or deliberating on the ethics of church protests. There’s also deep awareness of the challenges of media trust and the effect of digital culture, as well as acknowledgment of the personal stakes of political division in friendships. With music insights, real advice, and playful promotion, this episode is both substantive and entertaining—a must-listen for anyone who wants context, critique, and community.

Transcript

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[Laura Rosenberg]

Just don't call it a podcast. Oh, listen to that.

[Ebro Darden]

A little vibe.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Ebro Laura Rosenberg show We are on.

[Rahsaan]

Oh, I like this.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Welcome to the. Welcome to the program. That's right. Laura is chomping at the bit to get to this Don Lemon, Nicki Minaj situation. Hold on, Laura style.

[Ebro Darden]

She's right. It needs room. It needs room.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You gotta let it breathe. So we're gonna get to that today. Yo, did Rosenberg. We gotta. We gotta come in hot. For Bills fans, it's one thing after another. ESPN Zone Rosenberg. So they fired the head coach.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, but that wasn't surprising. If they didn't go in, you know, if they had lost in the first or second round, I think everyone kind of expected that McDermott would be out.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Damn.

[Ebro Darden]

But it does feel extra nasty because, like, you know, they. He fought for the team, and afterwards he was defending them. But the fact of the matter is you didn't win. Not only did not win, they made a ton of mistakes in that game, too. And come on, man. At a certain point, you have the guy who might be the best quarterback in the world. He's right there. And this is like six straight years of the same thing. Ebro. This is a guy who basically like Mahomes. He can kind of will your team pretty far.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing, guys. If you've been a Bills fan long enough, Laura Styles, check this. This head coach in this team has gone through. The Bills have already gone through in the 90s. So why are they acting brand new? This is what y. This is what the Bills do.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't. I don't.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You going. You gonna fire him for just being who y' all are, man? Come on, man.

[Ebro Darden]

That's not right. That's not right. Think about it. And the last one, the one from the 80s, Marv Levy was an absolute legend. But you can't lose four Super Bowls in a row. You eventually have to win one, and that's right.

[Ali Jackson]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

I look at it like this for Josh Allen, though. I mean, his. His wife is Haley Steinfeld, the. The woman you may know from sinners, if nothing else, pregnant with his baby. I know he gonna be cool, man. Josh Allen is cool, but he was crying that day.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But guess what?

[Ebro Darden]

He doesn't.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He doesn't show up to work every day, every week to get out there and lose. So we all. We always, us mere mortals, talk about what somebody's got going on at home, but you don't show up and get. You, you know, run up against 275lbs, 6 foot 5 dudes getting slung around the field and shoving your head between the legs of another 300 pounder to get a few yards just to come up short.

[Ebro Darden]

I know. And then we pretend when someone has a famous hot wife, like, he doesn't get home and have her go, and Josh, can you. Blah, blah, blah. And he's like kind of wishes, hi, honey.

[Rahsaan]

You take out the trash.

[Ebro Darden]

I kind of wish I was getting hit by these 300 pounders right now.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You know what I mean? Yo, man. Now, in. In Washington D.C. couple of things we got to touch on before we get too far to the show. Somebody has put up the giant rendition of the Epstein trump birthday card. A giant version of it. You guys seen this?

[Rahsaan]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes. Yes, you heard me correct. There is a giant Epstein Or Trump to Epstein birthday Card in Washington D.C.

[Ebro Darden]

I think I heard this was happening.

[Rahsaan]

So wait, what is it? Is it like a projector? Oh, it's a statue.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, not. Not a statue, but, you know, like a.

[Rahsaan]

Like an installation.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it's big. Laura, you gotta see.

[Rahsaan]

I mean, guys, what happened to the Epstein files?

[Laura Rosenberg]

All of a sudden, we're invading. We're still in Greenland. Invading Venezuela and. And bombing Nigeria. Yo, did y' all forget that we bombed Nigeria?

[Ebro Darden]

I think most people just didn't know, so forgetting isn't even on the table.

[Rahsaan]

I saw.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo, we dropped a bomb in Nigeria. That happened a couple of weeks. Just a couple of weeks ago. Rahsaan or Griff. I think we need a picture for this next little piece I'm gonna throw out. Did you guys see the letter, though, on White House letterhead that was written to Denmark for the reason that we need and deserve to have Greenland?

[Rahsaan]

My God.

[Ebro Darden]

You mean though I'm done with peace because you didn't give me a peace prize.

[Rahsaan]

That one.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Did you see the letter?

[Ebro Darden]

I read it.

[Rahsaan]

I read it quickly, too.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Hit the button, man.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah, it's like a 12 year old that's like stomping his feet.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You didn't give me the Nobel Peace Prize, so we're taking green.

[Rahsaan]

You played yourself so ridiculous, y'.

[Laura Rosenberg]

All. Are you guys. Are you guys embarrassed yet?

[Rahsaan]

Oh, Ben.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, wait, I don't think he's asking you, Laura. He knows.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He knows, you know, supported this nonsense. Are you guys embarrassed? Are we embarrassed?

[Ebro Darden]

No. Is it great? Again, that's my question. Is it great? Are you sensing great yet? Because saying I didn't get the Peace Prize, so I don't really feel like I need to choose peace is. I'd like to choose peace, but I don't have to anymore. Yo, he literally. Laura negotiates like a five year old.

[Rahsaan]

I know.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Quote.

[Rahsaan]

No quote.

[Laura Rosenberg]

There are no written documents. And it's only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats land there. Also, my.

[Ebro Darden]

My mom said that even though it was yours, it's actually both of ours because I. I had told you about it first anyway, so I. We should keep it at my house. He's literally a five year old. That is. That's five year old logic right there.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So then, based on that logic, though, by the way, guess who landed in. In what we call now the United States. A long time before the Pilgrims.

[Ebro Darden]

Who's that?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Africans. Long time. Long time. Oh, by the way. And after that, guess who landed here? The Vikings. Where Are they from Norway? Couldn't Norwegians pull up and just claim the United States based on that logic? Sure, sure.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, listen to Ebro. He didn't say he's taking it okay. He just said, like, you know, I could.

[Laura Rosenberg]

United States already has pretty much carte blanche in Greenland, bro.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, I know. I'm aware. Did you see the text message exchange with him in Denmark too?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I did not.

[Rahsaan]

No, I didn't see that.

[Ebro Darden]

So he texted. He texted with them too. And it was more. More of the same, you know, them trying to be reasonable and him trying to turn up and act like he's been disrespected. And again, the people in Denmark and are just like, we don't understand what problems you have. And now we're going to be faced with. As the rest of Europe sort of looks into this whole thing, what we're going to be faced with is. And this started already, guys, at the beginning of his term. But, like, are we really going to get to a point where the relationship that the US has had with Europe for 80 years, is that really on the verge of being over? Well, this is true allyship.

[Laura Rosenberg]

This is where you hit the button.

[Ebro Darden]

There's so many places to hit the button, though.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, no, no, you hit it there because we talked about this in, in the beginning of his term, as you just pointed out. We talked about the reality that. That now the world does not trust our voting population to vote in somebody who is capable of maintaining relationships, capable of honoring treaties, capable of having some sort of decorum. And that's why yesterday, the Canadian Prime Minister is talking about a New World Order as he meets with Xi Jinping in China.

[Ebro Darden]

What does that mean, a New World Order?

[Laura Rosenberg]

That means that the order of operations where Canada is working alongside its allies like the United States and how they set up deals with the rest of the world. That's right. Our neighbor to the north, they're reworking.

[Ebro Darden]

Those deals because this is because we're obviously not going to be the same person we were.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Ebro Darden]

Or this, you know, the same ally that we were. So it has to all be rethought. Well.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And also remember, we started hearing headlines that Europe was re establishing military in ways that they European nations and the UK and the European Union re establishing militaristic, you know, operations in ways that they hadn't in decades because we can't be trusted.

[Ebro Darden]

And the worst part about it is, is that our military is so strong that really nobody can do anything that would make the US Want to Rethink anything.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, we get told that, but I, I, I have a sneaky feeling that China has something to say. Sure got the strongest military, and I.

[Rahsaan]

Don'T want to find out.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, no, I mean, in Europe, you're right. China could certainly have a conversation that you wouldn't want to find out the answer to. But Europe and you know, and this is all this country respects, as Stephen Miller laid out, is military might. That's what makes us a country. It's not our ideas. It's not freedom. The whole thing that you sold us, it's military. Mic, who has the nukes?

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Ebro Darden]

The most nuke. Who can, who can turn the planet into more of a crispy barbecue? We can. We can fry up the whole planet. That's what makes us powerful.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Are you guys in hip hop? There's a little dust up took place. Did you guys see this story? Fat Joe and French Montana have a. Some sort of tense exchange over publishing.

[Rahsaan]

I saw, but that's a salacious headline, bro. I saw the clip. It really was not tense at all. They were just. French was just explaining how, like, when Joe called him up to be on all the way up, he was like, of course my brother got me. He went, did it blew up. And then one day when they were performing, he was just like, hey, I spoke to my lawyer. I'm not receiving any royalties from this. And that. Joe was like, okay, hold on. Called his people and gave him, well, Joe claims 10%. And then French was like maybe five. And Joe's like 10. And they just, like, laughed about.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Wait, French negotiated himself down?

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, Joe negotiated French up.

[Rahsaan]

No, Joe claimed that he got 10% of the publishing. French is like, maybe 5.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, okay, I see what you said.

[Rahsaan]

And then Joe's like, that's it. And they just all start laughing. So that. That's what it was. So it wasn't like a tense exchange?

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, that headline on hip hop.

[Rahsaan]

I know, I know. Change. Because, you know, I went to look. I'm like, tense exchanges. They're friends. Let me see. And I was like, this ain't nothing, yo.

[Ebro Darden]

And French, let me tell you something. French Montana does not have tense exchanges. He's like Bob Dylan. French has become the Bob Dylan of hip hop.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Wait, wait, wait. You're making it sound like French can't speak coherently is what you're saying.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm not saying he can't speak, o'.

[Rahsaan]

Hare. Just chill.

[Ebro Darden]

His vibe is more.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'll be, I'm, I'm g. See, French And, Max, today at Apple Music, and you.

[Ebro Darden]

You're going to see the vibe.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'm. I'm. I'm going to catch the vibes. I'm celebrate that new project that I like a lot.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, I'm glad they're squeezing you in, because I. I thought the next stop they're showing is the. Showing up is the US Post Office. French and Max have been outside promoting.

[Rahsaan]

They have to. Yeah, they have to.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's promotion, man. Big promotion.

[Ebro Darden]

When we. When we. When our plans start, we got to bring them in for. For a chat.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, yeah, we're gonna sell. I. You know, the. The. The. The. The project I really like. I think there's too many songs on it, but there's things I really like on it. I was pleasantly surprised. And. And. And on that note, I sat. Speaking of pleasantly surprised, asap, Rocky, I sat with yesterday. Oh, nice. Yeah, I sat with him at Apple Music yesterday, and, man, did he have a lot to say.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I mean, about his relationship with Rihanna and just kind of like, how great it is about, you know, where is it?

[Rahsaan]

Where is it? Where's the convo?

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's coming out tomorrow.

[Satan (Devil Character)]

Laura.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Stav.

[Rahsaan]

I need that early. I need that early. I need to see.

[Ali Jackson]

I need to see.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo, only if you're going to showcase it in the rundown.

[Rahsaan]

Yes, that's what I needed, because I'll get.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I get snubbed by this show a lot.

[Rahsaan]

No, that's what I'm telling you. Got to send it to me. Have your team call my team.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Wait, it says here Rahsaan says, Did you tell him he disappointed Rosenberg? What's that about?

[Ebro Darden]

By. By doing an academics interview.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But why? What. What. What is that?

[Ali Jackson]

Why?

[Laura Rosenberg]

And Rashad, why are you bringing that up?

[Ebro Darden]

He let Nas down because he let me down.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Why is that a letdown? What are you talking about?

[Ebro Darden]

Stop. Stop. Don't do this. I don't like the rhetorical game you play.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, no, I don't. But why would he not do an academic interview?

[Ebro Darden]

Because. Because smart, good musicians should go places where you can have smart, good music conversation. Right?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I thought you were. Honestly. Honestly, I thought you were talking about, like, maybe they had a problem or something.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, I just meant, like, is the crowd. Is the crowd who watches academics because they. They have a lot of eyeballs. Are they really digging in to be like, I'm gonna get into this album and hear about the music? That's. That's not gonna do it. That's all.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But I think. I think a lot of people. One of the things I spent a lot of time talking to him about was that I don't believe most people paid attention close enough to Rocky albums of the past to hear a song like Punk Rocky come out and be like, yo, he's trying a new style. I was like, no, no, he's not.

[Rahsaan]

He's always experimented.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He's always had some Rocky kind of rock influenced trap, leaning melodic. It's all out of vibe and aesthetic.

[Ebro Darden]

For an entire song.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Absolutely, absolutely.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay, but now, now I'll throw it back at you. But who are you talking about? Why are we surprised? Me guess. Yo yos on the Internet, just how.

[Laura Rosenberg]

People are covering the album. It wasn't even yo yos. It was honestly just like, like reviewers are saying, like how people were reviewing the album. Yeah, like I, I saw people review the album like he was trying something new.

[Rahsaan]

I saw a lot of those comments too. But Rosenberg, it was just. I saw it online. Comments, you know what I mean? And people, honestly, as, as soon as the album was announced, are these like people who probably didn't sit with the album, you know what I mean?

[Ebro Darden]

Are these the kind of reviewers that there's a picture of the album behind them and then they're inset and little video talking about the album?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo, what's wrong with you? That's basically our life now.

[Ebro Darden]

But, but by the way, you're not critical enough of it. You are like my dad, bro. You, you see some shit and you take it as rule and you send it to me. I'm like, this is not legitimate, bro.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, no, I look at it as. This is fodder. It's all just fodder.

[Ebro Darden]

But that's the problem. But, but, but it's also. We take it as actual being something.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But that's why we grab it and then we anal it and we either call it BS and throw it out or we take it that they maybe.

[Ebro Darden]

Have a good point, but it's a blurry line, I guess some. Because sometimes you're right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Some of it is just a conversation starter.

[Ebro Darden]

Right?

[Laura Rosenberg]

But some of that you are about to unravel. And great. Make great content over me telling you that some people don't understand Rocky's musicality. You was really about to give us a moment, right?

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, it was more about the Internet and the way we consume. And like, there are days when like I got Ebro, I got my dad, I got people who send me stuff being like, is this, look at this conversation? I'm like, is this a conversation?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I Don't know who this guy is. Well, look man, I think, I think what we have to be honest about is this whole holier than thou, these people don't matter and these people do stuff.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it's not even about these people do, because you're right. How can we trust the people who quote unquote do when they're mostly bought corporate media.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Exactly.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm with you, but it's such a double edged sword from the other side. You will be convinced like if you see enough of the same video. Like bro, you sent me that thing about the line being from Nazis that was on Kristi Gnomes thing. Bro, there was nothing there. I dug that up. They looked it up in English, in Austrian, in German now by the way, it doesn't even matter. It was just an experiment because obviously the message that they were trying to send was we will kill all of you because our administration is one of.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Us, all of you.

[Ebro Darden]

One of us, all of you. It's obviously evil no matter what. I was just doing the, I was just doing the research to see like. Yeah, but are people just copying the same story and saying it? And Laura, when you dig in and Google it over and over and look up articles that have been written, it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Leads all leads to the same thing.

[Ebro Darden]

No, there's no. They have not found.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, I'm saying it all leads to the same people saying that.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, yeah. And it's a circle of people who just keep saying it. So it just. You're right though, Ibro, I don't disagree that we can't just be like, well, I heard it on the news.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But, but, and then how about this? How about the suppress this? The actual active suppression of information when you try to Google it and the fact that we're, we're expecting algorithms and corporate run entities on the Internet to give us the, the answers we want. You're expecting Chat GPT to give you the answer you want. You're expecting Google Gemini to give you the answer you want. But it's really just pulling from the same information that you could Google yourself and things that you want to go see.

[Ebro Darden]

Although it's really, and it is funny you say that though too because sometimes chat, EPT or whatever your AI preferences, it will do everything to try to give you the answer you want. It's like, well, hey, that's a really good idea. You know, I kind of like that, but I don't see it as factually true. They don't want to hurt your feelings.

[Don Lemon]

What?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, and then. Right, so and then right now, sorry, Laura, you go to search something and you're looking for a reputable outlet. And back to your point, and the point we've been making for weeks, what's a reputable outlet?

[Rahsaan]

I know. No, no, seriously, I think. I don't know. I have it. Fact check fatigue when my friends just send me stuff. Is this real? Is this true? Look it up. You have the same phone. I do look it up.

[Ebro Darden]

But it's hard because to the first, to that point, if you look it up and then you're not skeptical about the articles that you get, like, for example, even a complex, that's a brand we always at least trusted in hip hop and knew they have changed what they do. They now do some real articles, but some of it is aggregated fake crap. Like, obviously, you know, Joe LiPuma does real videos and then this content's real and that's all real. But then they also are like, but we need to flood. These are flood, flood, flood. And it's not factual either.

[Rahsaan]

At the bottom of the article, there would be a source, you remember that cite their sources. Now it's almost like I almost never see those links anymore.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, I will tell you, I saw one moving around in all those places, including the ones that I no longer fully trust, like Hot 97 and Complex and. But everyone was posting the fact that a gentleman named Damien Elove Matthias passed away. And we would know him for being the man depicted in the Public Enemy logo that Chuck G, that Chuck D famously drew. Now what Ebro, 40 some years ago.

[Laura Rosenberg]

The silhouette and the crosshairs.

[Ebro Darden]

The silhouette and the crosshairs was a B boy. And it was this guy Elove. He was the B boy. He ran with LL Cool J. Oh, wow. It was his silhouette that was. That was the Public Enemy logo and he passed away. So LL was paying tribute and Chuck and Flav and everyone was paying tribute to, to this guy, Damien Elove Matthias so wanted to show some love because, man, that is in. You talk about Ebro. Where is that in the, in the lexicon of hip hop logos? Number one.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's up there. I, I, I. When you were asking, I've never thought about it. It's never crossed my mind.

[Ebro Darden]

Me neither.

[Laura Rosenberg]

The most notable hip hop logos. But in the chat, if y' all.

[Rahsaan]

Number one is the Wu Tang.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Wu Tang is number one. I mean, yeah, yeah, Wu Tang is one, but that Public Enemy's up there.

[Rahsaan]

Oh, he's up there. Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo. Hieroglyphics.

[Ebro Darden]

Nah. Hyrule's fire. The Dots is. Is fire.

[Laura Rosenberg]

The three eyed face.

[Ebro Darden]

I think PE versus WU is an interesting battle because the WU is more globally significant. For sure, it surpassed them. But in terms of dopeness. I might take Public Enemies in dopeness, though.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, well, hang on, before you just go. Public WU has surpassed Public Enemy. WU is at a different. Is a different era. Right, okay. And. And yes. What? Because of the era it was in and it was a little less controversial subject matter.

[Rahsaan]

Okay.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Able to extend itself probably to more mainstream consumption international.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, even. Even the logo is less comp. Is less complex or. Or controversial.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Controversial. Yeah, yeah. Man in the crosshairs like he's about to get shot.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. Which was. Which is what made the logo so fire. Is it you. You felt something from seeing the logo.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes, because you're like, yo, Public Enemy. Oh, oh, they're taking cats out out here.

[Ebro Darden]

I gotta go look in the chat. I wonder what other ones we're forgetting, because I'm sure there's some other really good ones. Ebro, you made a great point with Hyro. Someone said bdp, Run D, run dmc. And by the way, it's barely even a logo. It's just the name's written with bars on it. But it became.

[Rahsaan]

Let me see, we got Rough Riders.

[Ebro Darden]

Logo, Rough Ride, the Double R. The Dipset's hard, but the Dipset one, it's not nearly on the same scale of recognizable, but it's fire. G unit. What is The G unit one? Just the big G. It was popular.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Because 50 was popular.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, no. I mean bad boy. You know, we don't have to like baby. That's a big one. The bad boy with the baby. Anyway, so. So rest in peace. To elove. Man, I thought that was a worth note.

[Laura Rosenberg]

There it goes. Listen, speaking of news and you know, they don't. I've seen them running ads, but they don't run ads here yet. Maybe they will. But I do use a. An app that's pretty awesome.

[Ali Jackson]

Okay.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's called Ground News. And what it does, basically is it aggregates all the news stories all over the place and it tells you who's reporting on it. Meaning like, oh, yeah, you've mentioned this before. Meaning like I. The first story that popped up at the top, it says Trump says Waltz and Ilhan Omar support anti ICE protest to distract from fraud controversy. That's at the top. But it says 15 sources are reporting it nine minutes ago. And 75 of the sources that are reporting it are right leaning. So it'll give you a Long red bar or I need to get this. It'll give you like a white, like neutral bar. And if it's left leaning reporting outlet, it'll give you a blue bar. So it tells you how you should.

[Ebro Darden]

Think about it before you even read it. Perfect.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It tells you the sources that are reporting on it.

[Ebro Darden]

I hear you, but you hear what I'm saying too.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Ebro Darden]

Because there definitely could be a story that only especially left, where all the left people are reporting it. Because it's true.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Ebro Darden]

And then if you had that app and you were a little bit more centrist or red, you'd look at and go, oh, this is a biased story.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, and so what they do when they present it to you is they say it's a blind spot for the left or a blind spot for the right. Meaning. But you can go to each of the sources reporting on it if you want. But to your point, Laura, where you have friends that are like, yo, have you heard? Or people you know looking for stories, you can search stories on here. You can do all.

[Rahsaan]

Is it free?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I don't think so. I think you got to pay for it.

[Rahsaan]

Okay. It's called ground news.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Ground news. But, but the story right under that, that most of the left outlets reporting on and the right outlets are not reporting on.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Is Netflix submits amended all cash offer for Warner Brothers and wins board support.

[Ebro Darden]

So it's a step further. It's going a step further.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Going a step further. And I'm assuming that the right is not reporting on it because they wanted either a, they wanted Trump and the, and the, and the Ellison brothers, whoever, to get that also. And so they're suppressing that story on these right wing outlets. And the left is celebrating because they didn't want Ellison and them to get their hands on Netflix.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. That is possible news. I mean, I both like it and don't like it. I'm not gonna lie to you.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Listen, that's on brand for you. It's very on brand.

[Ebro Darden]

I think things through because it's just another layer. We already have so much bias and it's like. Let me think real quick how I should be looking at this article.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, I was only. I, I was thinking about it in terms of people like that, like Laura Styles that are looking like, how do I aggregate all of the.

[Ebro Darden]

So it's. So it's also just a news aggregator. You don't have to care about whether it's being right reported or.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, but, but yes, those bars at the bottom of how it's presented will definitely make you feel one way or the other, depending on your affiliation, if you're affiliated.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, yeah. I'm getting the sense that people feel strong affiliations these days.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Everybody's gang related out here. Red or blue, you know, because of blood, it just don't matter.

[Ebro Darden]

And if you play the middle, guess what?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Get run over.

[Ebro Darden]

You don't be like Nelly out here.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Stay in the middle of the street and get run over. Yo, it is time for the rundown. Do we got intro?

[Ebro Darden]

Well, we still didn't get the completed. The completed intro yet, so we still. We still need the waiting.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Still flashing.

[Ebro Darden]

We don't slow up.

[Rahsaan]

All right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo, do we have to attribute that song to someone? Do we like.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, when we have a completed version, we can shout them out.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, wow.

[Rahsaan]

Oh, okay.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo, it's a tough, tough room.

[Ebro Darden]

I just don't know his name, so.

[Rahsaan]

All right, so let's get into it. Something we didn't mention.

[Ebro Darden]

Better give us more.

[Rahsaan]

You want your shout out, but that's super dope. Is that Green Day will kick off the super bowl opening performance.

[Ebro Darden]

Hey, this is fire.

[Rahsaan]

I didn't know that. I saw it yesterday. Somebody's like, yo, you're not excited? I was like, oh, wait, what?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Wait, how did you frame it? Green Day will kick off the.

[Rahsaan]

The opening performance. It says, we'll kick off the super bowl with the opening performance of America the Beautiful.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It didn't say the American idiot. Like, what are they gonna. How does this weave in?

[Rahsaan]

I'm not sure.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Listen, I love Green Day, so I'm here for whatever they go.

[Ebro Darden]

I just. But. But they'll be. It's not. They're not kicking off halftime. They're going to be on the game.

[Rahsaan]

Yes, yes, yes. So it's pre game show. Pre game show. But still, the fact that they're on is fire.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, yeah, and they're gonna, you know, they're gonna trick some whites out there who will be like, oh, good. Good old American rock music. But they don't pay enough attention to know that Green Day hates them, too. So.

[Rahsaan]

Right.

[Ebro Darden]

They'll just be like, all right, cool. Good. I know that. I've heard them before.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, also, also, it should be noted that the Super Bowl's in the Bay Area where Green Day is from.

[Ebro Darden]

Boom. Perfect. Perfect.

[Rahsaan]

Before we get to the meat and potatoes, just really quickly, I saw that Gervonte Davis, bro. He has been stripped of his World Boxing association lightweight title.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's because of this domestic abuse, domestic violence incident.

[Rahsaan]

Yep.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And by the way, he's had how many incidents over the years?

[Ebro Darden]

It's been a few, man.

[Rahsaan]

I I can't even count. It's been a lot.

[Ebro Darden]

It's like the main reason you hear the guy's name, besides him being a dominant fighter, I I It's like, equal is his hand of. Of domestic violence issues.

[Rahsaan]

It's really sad, bro. It's sad now. All right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's also a button, by the way. So, yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, man. Has been.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Congratulations. You played yourself.

[Rahsaan]

All right, well, let's get into it. The Nicki Minaj versus Don Lemon beef.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I and by the way, and this is good. I'm about to have fun here. I am flying. You played yourself. I'm flying completely blind here. I've only seen headlines. I don't know what it's about. I don't know what started it.

[Ebro Darden]

It's kind of challenging. It actually took some work. I had to do some work to figure out where it started and what the actual event was. It took a little bit of time.

[Rahsaan]

All right, so let's get into it now. On Sunday, he shared a video from city's church in Minneapolis, during which demonstrators interrupted a service in protest of a man named David Easterwood. He's a pastor, but he's also a local Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He's an ICE field officer. The pastor of the church is an ICE field officer, and protesters showed up to the church to look for him and protest in the church.

[Rahsaan]

Now, I want you to look at this video, and I want you to pay attention to what Don says. Here's the video of him at the. At church.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm listening.

[Rahsaan]

Or maybe I But in. In the video, we don't have the church in the video. In the video, he's at the church, and he says it. He verbally says it, right? He says, hey, I'm not part of the protest. I'm just here to report on it. That's what Don says. And he's like, you know, interviewing people about it and whatever. Then afterwards, that comes out. Of course, everybody was freaking out about it. They were like, my God, what's happening? Who are these protesters? What. What's going on? But again, Don Lemon says, I'm just here covering it. Right? So it goes viral, then Ms. Nicki Minaj.

[Ebro Darden]

Let me just ask one question. Do we know he wasn't live during that? Right? He was recording.

[Rahsaan]

No, I think it was a live stream.

[Ebro Darden]

Was it a live stream? Okay. I'm wondering whether they would make the argument that him being Live is sending more attention to said church. I'm just trying to wonder what the argument was.

[Rahsaan]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

Even though.

[Rahsaan]

So it goes viral. Okay, it goes viral. Then Nicki Minaj has something to say. She decides to man come for him on X because, you know, she disabled her Instagram account. And she says, don, I don't know if I could say this word.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no.

[Rahsaan]

See, Sucking Lemon is disgusting. How dare you? I want that thug in jail. He would never do that to any other religion. Lock him up. So that is the first tweet. And then, you know, it started going viral. Now, this is Don's response.

[Don Lemon]

You are a homophobic bigot. You don't care about African Americans. You're not an African American. From what I know, you are reportedly an undocumented citizen, so you should be deported under Donald Trump's rules. And the other thing is that your family members. You have one family member who is reporting reportedly a sex offender. The other family member, your husband or whatever are sex offenders. Your husband. And one of them is reportedly a pedophile. And you have nerve to talk about me and what you think that I do. Nicki Minaj, get a life. Stop being a pick me. You should have put a pick me doll on that damn tweet instead of a Chucky doll, because you are nothing but a pick me. And I pick. I choose not to pick you. And so should black people and social gay people shouldn't buy your music. Clock that.

[Ebro Darden]

Clock that.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well. Well, that was sassy.

[Rahsaan]

Wow. That was straight to the point.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, Don felt like he. Don went through and read her Wikipedia page fast. It was like, I got her God.

[Rahsaan]

Oh, my God.

[Ebro Darden]

This is what they're saying. You could tell he didn't know that much, but he was like, I read what people are saying about you.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, because they're saying it. They've been saying. Saying it since she jumped up at the T Pusa joint. Yeah, all of what he said right there was the. Was the whole T Pusa backlash that she got. Yeah. And. But why. But why did she. He's not wrong.

[Ebro Darden]

She's defending Christians. Ebro. She's a defender.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Those Christians. Those Christians at that church would not defend Nicki Minaj.

[Ebro Darden]

She doesn't care about.

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[Laura Rosenberg]

There is an ICE field agent Now.

[Ebro Darden]

I think we could have a separate conversation outside of the Nikki thing about whether it is a pretty interesting conversation about whether you should protest at the church service where the pastor is the ICE agent. I do think that's an interesting conversation. I don't think it's a no brainer. You should just run up in the church and be protesting. Because I know that every, everyone. I don't know that all the people in the church are aware of that.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Here's what I know about protests. Generally speaking, they don't just ask for permission.

[Rahsaan]

There you go.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I mean there's not like a, there's not like a. When activists activate and protesters protest, I don't think they're looking, they're reading some sort of rule book on where they should or should not show up.

[Ebro Darden]

I know, but, but, but with certain things you kind of should. Like houses of worship are. That's a sticky conversation about protest and that.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And, and the conversation you're having about a reasonable.

[Ebro Darden]

A reasonable conversation.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, a reasonable conversation. Activism and protest decorum, I think is a waste of time because the reason they do it is to be seen and to be disruptive like that.

[Ebro Darden]

But Ebro, there are laws in place. You're not.

[Rahsaan]

So you should listen to this.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I don't think there's a lot. I don't think there's a law against it.

[Ebro Darden]

All right, so there is.

[Rahsaan]

So listen to this. So after all of this, you know, after the video went viral, people were accusing, to your point, Don Lemon of instigating or organizing the protest which he didn't. But the assistant Attorney General, Harme Dillon posted on X aad and he said a house of worship is not a public forum for your protest. It is a space protected from exactly such acts by the federal criminal and civil laws.

[Laura Rosenberg]

There is a law.

[Rahsaan]

Nor does the First Amendment protect your pseudo journalism of disrupting a prayer or service. You are on notice.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So there is a law. And, and by the way, I. So I'll add this in. I think part of disruption and activism and protests, I think they often break laws. Like sit ins were breaking laws. You know, when they're blocking traffic, that's breaking laws. I think they're willing to go to jail for these things. I think that's the whole point.

[Ebro Darden]

I get it. My pushback is we wouldn't like this in reverse of other situations.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Of course not.

[Ebro Darden]

People shouldn't be like, I said this before, I just said this recently. If there's a rabbi out there, of which there are plenty of, who is pro Israel, no matter what, the congregation doesn't have, in my opinion, should not be subjected to protests over Gaza and Israel in the middle of their service because the rabbi has a belief that they don't hold. That's not right to me. I don't believe rolling into people's churches or synagogues is the move.

[Rahsaan]

But when it comes to Don, he was reporting on it.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't mean Don Lemon, Laura.

[Rahsaan]

No, he wasn't part of the law.

[Ebro Darden]

Although, Laura, that is interesting too. You don't see a lot of report. Think about in your mind the amount.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Of times you've ever seen reporter inside the church. Is the. Is the. Is the part.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm not.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Listen, there.

[Ebro Darden]

There's a whole other thing here that they're doing with Don Lemon, of course, and we can get into all that, but it is unusual. He may have put himself in the crosshairs a bit because you don't see reporters with microphones inside churches and synagogues.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, you don't. But unless they're invited. But what are you. What are we talking about?

[Ebro Darden]

They're coming after him now. Do what?

[Laura Rosenberg]

What are they going to do? He works for himself. Are they going to kick him off the Internet? Oh, are they gonna, like, like. He doesn't work for a corporation. He works on the Internet. These protesters, what are they going to do? Are they going to go after their jobs? Are they going to put him in jail?

[Ebro Darden]

No, the Department of Justice, Felony Ebro. The Department of Justice said they're going after him and they're invoking The Ku Klux Klan Act.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And what's going to happen? They're going to. Are they going to drag him by trucks? Are they going to hang him from a tree? What are they going to do? What's going to happen? Because guess what? The President of the United States is also a criminal. And I'm tired of acting like anyone else who breaks the law is so like, oh, my God. Haha.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah, but they don't care.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So what?

[Rahsaan]

They don't care about that part.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, but you're saying. You're saying. I don't understand what you're arguing with because we.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Everybody's breaking the laws.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, but they control the laws. That's the problem. The rules are different.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Different dons.

[Ebro Darden]

These are very different dons.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But guess what? It looks like they're all turning up. The gloves are off. Well, this is a whole sign where there's an ICE agent as a pastor. Don Lemons. Dear God. He's streaming live from protesters to the church where they're holding signs.

[Ebro Darden]

I know. And by the way, now everyone's jumping up and down like you. Yo yo's all I do. That's right. Ebro. Tell him. Ebro's not making sense. The fact of the matter is the problem here that Laura and I are trying to express. And Laura, at least I think you are. Isolated. Don Lemon could get victimized here. He's not in control.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He didn't.

[Ebro Darden]

He didn't. He didn't pick the Justice Department. Are you not watching these people do whatever they want? One roughshod.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo, Don, you know you're my guy. Unfortunately. I want to see what happens next. Are they taking Don Lemon to jail? Are we going to see Don do the perp walk before we see Donald Trump in the Epstein files? What are we gonna. They're gonna have.

[Ebro Darden]

Way more likely. Yes.

[Laura Rosenberg]

They're gonna have Don Lemon in an orange jumpsuit in jail because he broadcasted from a church where the pastor's an ICE agent.

[Rahsaan]

You think you're making it seem like it's a ridiculous thing when it could happen.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I know.

[Rahsaan]

Because these people are sick and twisted.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'm seriously asking. I am seriously asking.

[Rahsaan]

And at least. And Rosenberg. And I say could happen.

[Ebro Darden]

I believe it could happen. Yes. Guys. Hey, everyone.

[Rahsaan]

They're gonna try.

[Ebro Darden]

I remember the last time Ebro played I want to see it. We got January 6th. He said, and now. And you act like you won't see it again. You act. I don't understand what you. You think that they just can't do it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Necessary. It's necessary, unfortunately. Aren't you guys realizing it's necessary? We like it's.

[Ebro Darden]

Nothing's going to change. No one's going to do more about it. We'll just keep sinking further and further. What's going to happen.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And that's necessary then? Because we don't have protocols and we don't have systems in place and we don't have honest politicians and we don't have a government that's willing to stand up for itself and actually live up to its promises. That is necessary.

[Ebro Darden]

Then.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's necessary. We can't just keep glad handing each other.

[Ebro Darden]

How is it. I just don't understand what you're. I don't. You know, I don't. I just don't follow.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So we're glad handing because we acted like we were above a January 6th moment. So much so that once it happened, we didn't even have a recourse as a nation, as a government to hold the people who did it, organized it, and worked on it accountable. Matter of fact, the wife of a Supreme Court justice worked on it, financed it, helped it happen. The President of the United States helped it happen. And we have no system to check it because.

[Ebro Darden]

Because of everything you just said. Because of everything you just said. You is why I don't need to see more. I know what this is. Don Lemon could go to jail.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'm on the other side. We need to see more so that people wake up and get active and start voting in people. And we start. And when those people get in, we don't just brush it under the rug like we did the Civil War, or we brush it under the rug like we did Jim Crow, or we brush it under the rug like we do these Confederate states all over the country. It should.

[Ebro Darden]

It won't. Because the same Justice Department that would put Don Lemon in jail are the ones who will shut down the elections, not let us have a fair election. So there'll be no point.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, for now. For now. But people got to fight for it or not.

[Ebro Darden]

You're going post revolutionary war.

[Laura Rosenberg]

We have to.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah, I mean, look, I get you.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Where are we going, bro?

[Rahsaan]

I understand. I just. I also understand Rosenberg's point. I don't want to see it. I don't want to see.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Donald Trump will be all right, bro. Him and his husband, they'll be all right. Got money, Sit a few days in jail. It's not. Listen, this promo for Don Lemon, you know what this is doing to the Don Lemon show right now? That's Scorching. Don, when they make you do the perp walk, Stream it live, baby. Let's go. That's real journalism.

[Ebro Darden]

Lemon Nation's gonna be on fire if he does.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Lemon Nation is turning up.

[Rahsaan]

Oh, my God.

[Ebro Darden]

The fact. The fact. Back to the playing in your face. The fact that they're invoking the Ku Klux Klan Act.

[Laura Rosenberg]

What is that?

[Ebro Darden]

So I have going to churches. No.

[Rahsaan]

Do you want to see a video that our friend Deaf Ant is breaking it down?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Come on, please. Run it.

[Rahsaan]

Let's go. We have that. We have that.

[Deaf Ant]

Why is the Department of Justice pulling out the KKK act of 1871 against a black journalist on Martin Luther King Day? Not only is it a choice, it's a strategy. The Trump administration already said they're going to start using the Civil Rights Division to go after discrimination of white people. The KKK act, also known as. Known as the enforcement act of 1871, was signed by Ulysses S. Grant after the Civil War. During Reconstruction, the Klan and other groups like the red shirts, use violence, intimidation. They would end people's lives, all to prevent black people from exercising their basic God given rights. Now, when Ulysses S. Grant signed this law, it did a couple of things. It made it a federal crime to conspire to deprive people of their constitutional rights. One of the main things it did is it gave the president broad authority to enforce those rights, including deploying federal troops and suspending habeas corpus on Americans. This has nothing to do with Don Lemon. This has everything to do with Donald Trump wanting to send troops into Minnesota.

[Blue Apron Announcer]

Interesting.

[Ebro Darden]

Didn't. Didn't he already send troops into Minnesota then wasn't more troops in the Minnesota.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, no, no, no. He's got the ice. He got ice in there. But remember, Tim Walls was the one that got the National Guard ready ahead of Donald Trump, so that Donald Trump could not take charge of the National Guard in the state of Minnesota. That was a move that Tim Walsh did. But also, yeah, Don Lemon was standing there with his microphone, conspiring and. And intimidating churchgoers. Yo, hit the F out of here, bro.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah, intimidating.

[Ebro Darden]

You didn't gotta hear. The only thing anyone could accuse Don Lemon of is being sort of smarmy and annoying.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Don't.

[Ebro Darden]

Do not tell me he intimidated you.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo, you're making Rosenberg like Don Lemon.

[Ebro Darden]

No, by the way, Nikki, I mean, listen, he always said some things I like. You know what I mean? I think I liked. I realized that yesterday. I realized that yesterday. Sometimes I like Don Lemon. You know what I mean? Because, I mean, we just got to let. Nikki. Nikki. Could you be getting worse by the day? What is going on? Why? Why? First of all, why are you coming after him and saying something that's veiled or not so veiled? Homophobia, given who you are. Like, I just cannot believe that you wanted to throw the bleep sucking at a. At a guy who everyone knows is gay. That is such a crazy thing to do for anyone, specifically someone who. So much of her early support came from the gay community. I don't understand what is going on.

[Laura Rosenberg]

In her head, but she's abandoning all of that, bro. All of that is. She's abandoning all of that.

[Ebro Darden]

It's.

[Laura Rosenberg]

All of that's been thrown away, bro. All of that was thrown away when she got to the T? Pusa joint.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

When you sat on stage at the T? Pusa.

[Rahsaan]

Why do you call it T? Pusa?

[Ebro Darden]

It makes it sound like a. It makes it sound like a yummy, you know, snack from another country that I've never had. Have you tried the tea Pusa? I'm like, oh, I was there.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I did the T?

[Ebro Darden]

Posa.

[Rahsaan]

It just makes me laugh every time he says it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, well. So, yeah, Nikki's throwing all that out the window, clearly. But here's where I'm at. Just to. Just to go back, should I be. Should I understand that Laura and Rosenberg of the Ebro Laura Rosenberg show would rather have activists and journalists play it safe during this time?

[Rahsaan]

Didn't say that. No, didn't say that.

[Ebro Darden]

What?

[Laura Rosenberg]

What are you guys saying? Why?

[Ebro Darden]

No, no. You're the one who started saying anything. That was hard to follow. We were just pointing out what the story is. And then you started sort of yelling, I want to see it. And they're not going to do anything.

[Rahsaan]

And we think we don't want to see it.

[Ebro Darden]

We're saying they could do something. That was all. I'm like, you're saying it is like, oh, they're posturing. I want to see it. And I'm saying I don't. I think they could do. I think they could use him as a way to do more.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay. I just wanted to be clear.

[Rahsaan]

That's it. Yeah. And I. Because I just feel like while he was in the church, he clearly said, at the beginning, I don't know, we got the video already. I don't know if you guys want to see it. But he clearly says, I'm reporting on this. I'm not part of the protest. And I think that's the line that's Going to help him. You know, I think there's.

[Ebro Darden]

I think there's a separate. Again, I think there's a separate conversation about whether protests in churches or synagogues make sense.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I don't. I don't like protests outside churches or in places of worship. Full stop. Yeah, I don't like it. However, protests by nature are often breaking rules, annoying, and people are going to jail.

[Ebro Darden]

But there's a difference between annoying, like blocking traffic to me, and annoying infringing on people's worshiping. And we would like the protesting on the good side, which I believe these people are to not fall into doing the things that bad people would do. I think that's what you like.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'm with you. I don't believe that the people who showed up at this church meant to do any harm to worshipers. They weren't being violent. There was no nothing. They literally just walked in and were looking for the pastor and wanted to give him a piece of his mind because they were like, how could you be a Christian and you're the field operation, field agent for ice? Like, how. How is this working? And the truth of the matter is, I think Christians, because I saw people who were in this protest, who were other churchgoing Christians, were very angry that other Christians are okay with this ICE behavior. Like, that's becoming a thing where you have Christians that are like you. We are not reading the same Bible, and you are not Christians.

[Ebro Darden]

And speaking of which, the Catholic Church came out again yesterday with a stronger full statement, I think. I think from three different figures in the church, all kind of following Pope Leo, saying that they are not okay with the direction the United States is going with its policy. They weren't referring to ICE specifically. They were kind of referring overall, particularly internationally, Venezuela, Greenland. The general posture of the US Right now is not okay in the eyes of the Catholic Church. And I think it's going to be very interesting guys to watch if this continues. You know, at some point, Trump. Trump can't handle having stones thrown, even if it's coming from the Catholic Church. He gets enough shots thrown at him from Pope Leo and the Catholic Church. I guarantee you, at some point, your man can't take it anymore. And that would create a very interesting conversation that would put some people in a pickle or of what they go with God or their orange God. You know what I mean?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Some people have already chosen. They've already chosen.

[Ebro Darden]

They chose orange God.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You're saying they turn towards God. Matter of fact, they're not calling him orange God. They're actually call him. Calling him Darth dementia.

[Ebro Darden]

Is that a thing?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I saw it yesterday. Somebody called him Darth dementia. I was like, I'm running with that. Darth dementia is amazing.

[Rahsaan]

It's pretty good.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Darth Don dementia.

[Ebro Darden]

Shout out to Darth. Shout out to Pope Leo, though. Nice to see the Catholic Church, you know.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You know, they, you know, they got rid of the archdiocese in New York because he was, people say because he was too cozy with Trump. They changed that, like, right during the holiday.

[Rahsaan]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, Google it. Run your Googles. Oh, he was like a. He was like a, you know, right. Leaning conservative leaning archdiocese in New York. Longtime cardinal here. They got him about it.

[Ali Jackson]

Wow.

[Laura Rosenberg]

They hit him with that. They hit the. They hit the archdiocese with the F out of here.

[Ebro Darden]

Damn.

[Don Lemon]

Wow.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, that's, you know. You know, I know. You don't see that every day that an archdiocese catches, you know, probably the first time in his life.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I think we gotta get to the original gurus today. Is it time?

[Rahsaan]

Let's do it. Let me, let me.

[Ebro Darden]

There's so much going on.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, you don't want to get to the original guru?

[Ebro Darden]

No, I do. I just. It feels like there's more to do. We didn't even get there.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I don't know.

[Rahsaan]

Just breathe. Breathe. The original.

[Laura Rosenberg]

On the clothes. My guy mention it? On the clothes.

[Rahsaan]

The original gurus. Gmail.com theoriginalgurus gmail.com where you send us your problems, and we're here with open arms to help you. Rosenberg. Who's writing to us? Who needs us?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Is that the Bewitch tarp from the. From the sitcom the 70s 80s sitcom Bewitched. Hit that little tinker bell.

[Rahsaan]

I like it.

[Ebro Darden]

I have it as a generic. It's just a generic thing that's built in here. It could be, though.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's giving. I used to like Bewitched. I used to like Bewitched.

[Ebro Darden]

It's giving Bewitched, by the way, on the other side of the original gurus. Guys, we do have to update people as we promised we would today with the. Some of the plans. We didn't even get to any of the plans because we're so busy talking about the demise of our democracy.

[Rahsaan]

Well, where do you want to go first?

[Ebro Darden]

I think we have to talk about the original gurus. We have many emails, Lord, that come to the original gurus. Gmail.com. the original gurus. Gmail.Com. okay, send your emails today. Hey.

[Rahsaan]

Send, send, send.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You hit that damn Tinkerbell sound as much as I like to hit. Congratulations. You played yourself.

[Ebro Darden]

It feels good every time, though, doesn't it? Well, it's starting to start.

[Rahsaan]

It's magical.

[Ebro Darden]

All right, here we go, guys. Let me start by saying I've been a faithful listener since 2018, and you guys are a great start to my morning. I'm so glad you guys were quick to jump on YouTube. My mornings were feeling empty until I found your page. Thank you for always keeping it real, sending love to the whole crew. That's right pound subscribe, smash the like button, do it all, and stay tuned for our plans that will give you more access to the show.

[Laura Rosenberg]

We got plans.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm a proud Mexican American, first generation, born here. It was easy for me to cut off my Latino friends and family members that voted for Trump. The irony. But I've given grace to my two girlfriends because they're white. Wow. That's crazy. I thought it was hard for them to understand how I was feeling.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's fair.

[Ebro Darden]

They also don't post anything political on social media, and we don't bring up politics in our conversations. Except on a couple of occasions when they started the political convo, which we agreed to disagree each time. They didn't have facts. They just think he's doing a better job than a Democrat would have. We've been friends for about 10 years, met in college, and lived in three different states. New Jersey, New York, and Connecticut. I mean, it's one area, folks.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It is.

[Ebro Darden]

Let's. Let's relax. So we talk every Wednesday to update each other on our lives in group chat. But it's getting harder for me to excuse anyone that still supports the orange, especially since Renee Goode's murder.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's Darth dementia to you and me.

[Ebro Darden]

Trump is clearly the devil, and there's no gray area with what ICE is doing. The fact that I feel like I have to pretend like these events are not affecting me to my two girlfriends is making me question if I should step back from the friendship. I haven't tried talking to them about what ICE is doing because I don't like confrontation. And I do have other friends I can vent to, but I feel like I'm not being true to myself by being friends with them because of how much I care for what's going on. So my question is, should I take a step back from this friendship without saying anything, or should I try talking to them to see how they feel? I have a great love for these girls, but what's wrong is wrong. And if they can't see that. I don't know what's really in their hearts. Sincerely, a proud Mexican American.

[Laura Rosenberg]

A ton of pride, man.

[Rahsaan]

I know. I know. I think you should talk to them. You should. You should absolutely talk to them and just let them know. And it's. And if you feel the conversation goes nowhere, then you can make your decision of stepping back. But I do think that a conversation should be the next step, especially if you guys have been friends for years like you described.

[Ebro Darden]

I kind of. I'm kind of. I kind of tend to agree. Ebro, like, you want to at least have the conversation. What if they surprise you? What if they say, yeah, I really.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, I think I really.

[Ebro Darden]

I've been upset by seeing it, too. I. I don't think this is right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's the framing. Right, because she says they don't talk about politics. Right. And that's not what the relationship is about. But because she's so affected by the goings on, she feels like she's not being true to her herself when she's on the phone with people and she knows where they stand politically by not having the convo. Right. That's. That's really the. The rub here. The rub here is how she knows they feel and their political stance and lack of knowledge and the fact that she's in pain by what she's seeing, and she's concerned that they have no empathy for her pain. How are you my friends? And you care about me and you have no empathy for what's hurting me right now? And I can't even come to you with what's hurting me right now because of your political side.

[Satan (Devil Character)]

Can I. Can I win?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Go ahead, devil.

[Ali Jackson]

Go ahead.

[Satan (Devil Character)]

Look, what you need to do.

[Ebro Darden]

Is.

[Satan (Devil Character)]

Just assume that they're on Trump's side now. Wait. Now, you should be on Trump's side and you should hang out with them. Join the country club, be around all the rich whites. Come on, do the dance. Yeah, baby. Everyone, no, trust me, it's fun over here. Tommy Lorenz here. Amber Rose. Nicki Minaj just got here. It's lit over here. I'm telling you.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo, Satan, you want the dancing music? You want to show her how to do the dancing music?

[Satan (Devil Character)]

No, trust me, you can do all. All these things. I don't know why everyone's acting like it's a big deal.

[Ebro Darden]

We're having fun.

[Satan (Devil Character)]

Trust me.

[Rahsaan]

Don't have to do the dance. Don't do it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No. She could get the Mar a Lago face.

[Satan (Devil Character)]

No, I know a great doctor. My wife, she's a God. No, Dr. Rubenstein and Boca. He's fantastic. The parties here, amazing. Granted, the music's not great.

[Laura Rosenberg]

A little too much Satan. How Satan? You keeping tabs on Epstein over there?

[Satan (Devil Character)]

Epstein's here.

[Rahsaan]

What?

[Satan (Devil Character)]

Having a great time. So, yeah, that's my thought.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Listen, Laura, it's an option.

[Ali Jackson]

It.

[Rahsaan]

Yes, an option you don't want to take. No, don't listen to the devil.

[Ebro Darden]

Don't.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, do not listen to Satan. And seriously, the convo you have with your friends is really about framing. You say, hey, guys, something's really been bothering me and I know you guys care about me and say you care about me, but I feel like I can't talk to you about something that really hurts me because you don't see it my way. And I want to, you know, and it becomes a real deep conversation about pain, honestly. Because what is. If you have never had a family member or you have never seen a person who looks like you go through the types of things that are happening to individuals who are being accosted and, and, and kidnapped by ice, you probably can't relate. You think, this is not my problem, right? But everyone on this show can see themselves in the human beings who are being accosted by ice. We can see ourselves, of course, every one of us. But imagine there are people who cannot relate. They have no empathy at all. They think that is so far from anything that has anything to do with them. And these people all did things the wrong ways, etc. Etc. Etc. That is a reality. Is it a wrong reality? And should they get hit with the F out of here and the congratulations, you played yourself? Absolutely. And they might want to get hit with an eight ball jacket, man, if you want to be honest with how I really feel about it, you need to get punched in the face.

[Ebro Darden]

But.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But for her girlfriends that she claims she cares about, you need to have a conversation about what's hurting you and the fact that you can't talk to two people you consider your friends because of, of, of this.

[Ebro Darden]

And you could say, you could even say, like, I understand we may have differences, but I really hope you guys are able to see why this is so upsetting and so problematic. And maybe they will surprise you with the answer. Yeah, maybe they're not going to show up in a, you know, Kamala Harris T shirt, but maybe they will be like, nah, I really do hear what you're saying. And it's making us rethink things. Who knows?

[Laura Rosenberg]

But the lens through your eyes, though, the lens is through Your eyes, because they care about you.

[Rahsaan]

And if it doesn't go the way you're hoping, then it's okay to walk away. There you go. So say the gurus.

[Ebro Darden]

Wow, that was beautiful.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo, we had a Satan appearance. He confirmed that Epstein was down there and it was a good time going on.

[Ebro Darden]

He's been there. What are you talking about?

[Rahsaan]

That's pretty good. Hey, really quickly, before we get out of here as the merch guru, I just want to give everybody an update. Everybody's really excited.

[Ebro Darden]

There's more merch updates.

[Rahsaan]

Well, the merch is getting printed as we speak.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh.

[Rahsaan]

We're going to start shipping everything out on Friday. So for everybody who's.

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, this is more than merch, Laura. Let's. Let's be honest. This is more packages. This is, this is something. This is a level above merch.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Now, let's be honest. We got to be honest. Is this coming in some cool packaging or is just showing up?

[Rahsaan]

Chill, chill. We're not there yet, okay? It's just showing up in an envelope in a plastic bag.

[Laura Rosenberg]

People that have expectations to understand what they're getting. You know what I mean? That's all they know.

[Rahsaan]

We're working.

[Ebro Darden]

Speaking of expectations, we. We mentioned yesterday that we had plans. Ebro.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay, we got more. We had a merch update, now we got plans update.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, yes, the, the, the, the plans. The plans were that we plan to start Patreon.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

Right. The update on said plans is the Patreon page is now live as you speak.

[Laura Rosenberg]

All right.

[Rahsaan]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

And the first Patreon drop for those people who want to get on board. Patreon.com ELR show patreon.com ELR show and the first Patreon exclusive content is coming at you. Wait for it tomorrow. Hitting people smack dabby in the head for their heads off. So we're going to have. We're going to have a little, you know, extra content for people. So Ebro, they can go on behind the scenes and as the plans are being constructed, ruffle through the papers, take a look at the. At the drawings, look at the construction, you know, do all of the planning with us. That's what Fomle does.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay. You don't seem as excited about it as I was hoping you would be.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Me?

[Rahsaan]

Oh, no, no, this is great.

[Ebro Darden]

Eber, I want you to be. Yeah, you just. You went by. I was.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I wanted, like, listen, I wanted to charge 25 cents, so.

[Rahsaan]

Ebro, chill.

[Ali Jackson]

Now.

[Ebro Darden]

Ibro, what if because you. Because you want people to always get their money's worth. If they sign up for Patreon and they join us tomorrow. And we do a lot. We're going to do a live, and they'll be hanging out with us. Will you take requests? Because people love seeing you do the dance. If people just come in and throw money at you like a stripper and want to see.

[Rahsaan]

Oh, my God. But why you got to say like that, Rosenberg?

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, Only if on the menu is Laura's Finger Bang. Oh, and I want to see. I want to see who gets the most, gets the most requests. A finger bang or a shoulder.

[Ebro Darden]

So, so basically how tomorrow's gonna work, though, just in case anyone's wondering, I don't want anyone to think we're not doing the free show. We will be here tomorrow morning, 8 o'. Clock.

[Rahsaan]

That's right.

[Ebro Darden]

You'll see us on YouTube. And then when that program ends, we will. We will jump on Patreon. And if you want to continue on the journey, you know, things get loose behind the scenes. Laura, first of all, the best thing is there's mad music to play that we can talk.

[Rahsaan]

I know, I know, I know. That's exciting.

[Ebro Darden]

Ebro's been gassing everybody, talking about the ASAP Rocky album. We could talk about some of the ASAP Rocky placement joints.

[Rahsaan]

Yes.

[Ali Jackson]

Yeah.

[Rahsaan]

The new TI we gotta play that.

[Ebro Darden]

I gotta tell you, I was sort of pleasantly surprised by that new TI Me too.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I was like, oh, this is dope.

[Ebro Darden]

You don't see a lot of people go full comedian. Then back to rapper.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Can I. Can I. Can I tell y' all something? I completely. I saw t. I do some shows and heard that he was doing stand up, but I missed the whole full comedian. I didn't know he went full. Somebody told me he had a special, special tour.

[Ebro Darden]

Only doing comedy shows out ever. Like, out all the time.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Now, one thing, Harris, one thing you cannot forget about T.I. and his family is they made a lot of money on that lawsuit. So he's just living his dream.

[Ebro Darden]

I forgot, too, how much money they made. They made a lot. Huh?

[Laura Rosenberg]

They made, like. Wasn't there a lawsuit with that OMG Girls lawsuit where they made, like, $80 million or something, bro?

[Rahsaan]

There's been a lot of lawsuits. It's hard to keep up. But that was one of them.

[Ebro Darden]

Whoa.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah, that. That was one.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So if he want to go on tour and be a comedian, I got news for y'.

[Rahsaan]

All.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He gonna do what the f. He want to do.

[Ebro Darden]

Not well.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's not like he's starving for cash.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm about to say. It's not like he didn't make some money prior to that, too.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That part.

[Ebro Darden]

So, yeah, but he did full on comedy. And now he's getting back to the music. And TI Is interesting, man. Prime. TI Was.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, it was special. That guy's good. That guy's a good rapper.

[Ebro Darden]

Whoa. Ebro, you stepping out?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo, hot take. Hold up. TI Is a fire rapper, bro.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, Ebro, stepping out. You never know what. This is the kind of stuff you'll have to tune in to the Patreon because Ebro might drop a hot take like you've never heard before. Like, hit you with a. TI Is a good rapper.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You know what I mean? You ain't never heard that before. You never heard anybody take a risk like that.

[Ebro Darden]

We can watch some videos together, though. We could even take requests. Like, there could be some people like, yo, I've never seen y' all talk about blank.

[Ali Jackson]

Buckle up.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Buckle up. If you want. If you want an hour of Rosenberg meandering and just throwing things at the wall.

[Ebro Darden]

Patreon, why are you doing that? Why are you doing that? We're trying to get people to sign up.

[Rahsaan]

It's gonna be fun.

[Ebro Darden]

So it's up there right now. I'm looking at it. Shouts to King Louie and Griff. The ELR show on Patreon. You could sign up and tomorrow. It'll be a great time. Now, listen, you could also join for free and it'll keep you up to date on just things going on. But paid membership will get you an extra show every week starting tomorrow. Ebro's uncomfortable with it. Guess what? I'm just fine.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Terrible, terrible, terrible. Yo, Ebro. Laura Rosenberg back tomorrow, 8am Catch us on Patreon, too. The ELR show on Patreon. Subscribe your T shirts. Hopefully this weekend if the. If the plant doesn't botch it ship on Friday.

[Rahsaan]

Shipping out.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And what are y' all putting it on? Ground. What is it like? Ground.

[Ebro Darden]

Except listen, y' all gonna have it by Valentine's Day. You're gonna wear it by Valentine's.

[Rahsaan]

Exactly.

[Ebro Darden]

Groundhog Day. If the shirt shows up, there's six more weeks to win her.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Can't even get a special bag. It's gonna have dust on it from the FedEx PAC. Just don't call it a podcast.

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