23.) Rosenberg to the Royal Rumble + Ye Apology (1/27/26)

Summary

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The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show

Episode 23: Rosenberg to the Royal Rumble + Ye Apology
Date: January 27, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode of The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show is packed with candid, witty, and often heated discussion on major current events. The trio covers Rosenberg’s upcoming trip to WWE’s Royal Rumble in Saudi Arabia, politics in Minnesota, police violence, a critical breakdown of Kanye "Ye" West’s public apology, and a messy hip-hop beef. As always, the team delivers commentary with humor, honesty, and plenty of strong opinions.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. Show Banter and Process Talk

Timestamps: 00:00 – 01:07

• The hosts joke about the ongoing evolution of their show name (“Just don’t call it a podcast.” [00:00, Ebro]).
• Discussion about production details, clip sourcing, and giving credit to content creators.
• Lighthearted grumbling about prepping for the show and adapting to a more professional operation.

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2. Rosenberg Heads to Royal Rumble in Saudi Arabia

Timestamps: 01:07 – 05:48

• Rosenberg previews his trip:
  • Royal Rumble in Riyadh at a brand-new, rapidly constructed stadium.
  • Plans to visit the world’s biggest, fastest rollercoaster at Six Flags.
• Discussion of traveling and Western celebrities performing in Saudi Arabia:
  • Ebro raises ethical concerns about working in authoritarian nations: “When you see them build stadiums in days, there’s usually problems.” [01:35, Ebro]
  • Rosenberg distinguishes between individuals chasing large Saudi payday and employees required to travel as part of a corporate entity:
    • “There is a difference between...getting a huge bag from the Saudi government myself...and the corporate entity you work for...says we are making money there...you’re going to come to the places where we do events.” [04:26, Rosenberg]
• Light agreement to avoid deep debate before Rosenberg’s departure: “Let’s just...hit the dance.” [05:24, Laura & Ebro]

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3. Election Interference & Minnesota Voter Data Controversy

Timestamps: 06:03 – 13:29

• Ebro introduces a clip from Instagram’s Ma Tomato, a philosopher/theologian, discussing fears of election rigging, ICE, and the Epstein files as distraction.
• The group explores a developing story: Minnesota officials allegedly given an ultimatum to hand over full voter rolls to ICE in exchange for ending federal presence.
• Rosenberg and Laura worry about potential 2026 election manipulation; draw parallels to 2020 tactics.
• Notable Quote:
  “Whenever anyone does the...‘this is all just to distract from the Epstein files’, I’m like, that’s too...too simple.” [10:44, Ebro]
• Minnesota’s status as a competitive swing state is highlighted (“They want the ones that are closer where they have a chance to rig it.” [13:06, Rosenberg]).

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4. ICE Violence, Police Shootings & Community Reaction

Timestamps: 13:29 – 27:34

• The hosts react to the police killing of Alex Preddy (shot in the back by ICE agents):
  • Ebro and Laura note the incident: “That is the name of the person who was shot in the street by ICE agents...He had a legal weapon.” [13:35, Ebro]
  • They reflect on the surprising number of official statements (Clinton, Obama, NBA, even the NRA).
  • Discussion of right-wing backlash to NBA’s response and a geography lesson for a clueless commentator (“Hey, moron. The Minnesota Wild play in St. Paul.” [15:44, Rosenberg])
• An emotional, philosophical debate about Second Amendment rights, government overreach, and the risks of increased vigilantism:
  • “He had the weapon for the reason you’re supposed to.” [23:53, Rosenberg]
  • “They unholstered his weapon and then still shot him in the street.” [24:45, Ebro]
• Ebro expresses concern about inciting broader violence: “This violence and chaos, the continual antagonization of the public to bait us all into a space where someone’s gonna do something...” [22:59, Ebro]
• Reflections on Minneapolis’ typically peaceful character and why it has become a hotspot.

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5. Kanye West’s (Ye) Public Apology

Timestamps: 28:04 – 44:51

Segment Structure:

• Ebro reads out large sections of Ye’s recent, much-anticipated public apology.
• Main themes: Kanye’s car accident and “undiagnosed frontal lobe injury,” bipolar diagnosis, regret for anti-Semitic and destructive behavior, previous use of the swastika, commitment to treatment and accountability.
• Key Excerpt (read by Rosenberg [30:41]):
  “In that fractured state, I gravitated towards the most destructive symbol I could find, the swastika...I regret and am deeply mortified by my actions...It does not excuse what I did, though I am not a Nazi or an anti-Semite, I love Jewish people.”
• Team dissects the apology’s sincerity and completeness:
  • Rosenberg questions: “Why did the Jews just get an ‘I love Jewish people’? Why no apology?” [33:17, Rosenberg]
  • Ebro and Laura debate whether the letter is serious or a PR stunt for Ye’s new album.
  • Laura shares personal experience with manipulation and mental health apologies: “I just, you know, people say...mental health issues. I don’t excuse it. Because I grew up with a person who used that as a weapon.” [38:27, Laura]
• Deeper critique:
  • The hosts emphasize that Ye’s rhetoric empowered dangerous figures: “Candace Owens got a larger platform because of Kanye.” [41:44, Ebro]
  • “If this is real and he continues on this path...I will 100% forgive.” [40:01, Rosenberg]
  • “Sorry doesn’t fix the lamp...He helped contribute. We are now living...cases of real anti-Semitism are at like, an all-time high.” [40:27, Rosenberg]
• Final consensus: Wait and see. Forgiveness is possible if real change accompanies the words.

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6. Hip-Hop Beef: 21 Savage vs. Fivio Foreign

Timestamps: 47:45 – 55:36

• Laura breaks down the beef: Fivio offended by 21 Savage’s “F the streets” comments.
• The feud spills online, with Fivio posting old clips involving Latto, and 21 firing back.
• Discussion touches on use of personal lives and rumors (e.g., Fivio’s ex’s claims, accusations).
• Notable Exchange:
  “This is what I’m talking about. Two young, successful black man publicly fighting. Maybe it’ll lead to violence. Oh, man. This is what I dream about. Shut up.” [53:00, Ebro, sarcastic]
• Rosenberg and Ebro challenge the logic of beefing over street cred while claiming to rise above it.
• The “Low Down” segment brings messiness, as Laura shares viral drama and the team reacts with both humor and frustration (“Things get messy when you go to hell.” [55:31, Ebro]).

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7. Relationships & Listener Advice – "The Original Gurus"

Timestamps: 56:23 – 62:36

• Segment for listener advice on relationships, intimacy, and communication challenges.
• Listener writes in about marital intimacy waning after years together and kids; wants to reconnect with spouse.
• Laura recommends honest, loving conversation and creating opportunities to rekindle romance (e.g., staycations).
• Ebro adds: “Being able to turn on the freak mode...takes practice to do it now that you have more distractions.” [60:06, Ebro] and gives “spicy” (sometimes explicit) advice to keep things lively.
• Rosenberg sums up: “This is the real...the hard work. This is that whole thing you signed up for. Good luck and God bless what we’re saying.” [62:06, Rosenberg]

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8. Notable Quotes & Moments

• “When you see them build stadiums in days, there’s usually problems.” – Ebro [01:35]
• “There’s a difference between [personally] going…and a corporate entity telling you to go.” – Rosenberg [04:26]
• On election interference: “It’s too hard for them to take over. And for those that say voting isn’t important, really…” – Ebro [12:44]
• “He had the weapon for the reason you’re supposed to.” – Rosenberg [23:53]
• On Kanye: “Why did the Jews just get an ‘I love Jewish people’? Why no apology?” – Rosenberg [33:17]
• “He helped contribute...Kanye turned the temperature up. He really did. It was impactful.” – Rosenberg [41:36]
• “This apology has to now come with action.” – Laura [42:23]
• “Things get messy when you go to hell.” – Ebro [55:31]

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Episode Tone and Style

The hosts balance sharp political critique with bold humor, empathy, and the no-holds-barred, culture-fluent banter for which they’re known. Roasting, sarcasm, and passionate debate drive the episode, but the team also opens up about personal experiences and the complicated realities of public discourse, social movements, and relationships.

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Useful Timestamps

• Show start & process banter: 00:00 – 01:07
• Rosenberg on Royal Rumble/Saudi trip: 01:07 – 05:48
• Minnesota/ICE/elections: 06:03 – 13:29
• Alex Preddy/ICE shooting: 13:29 – 27:34
• Kanye (Ye) apology analysis: 28:04 – 44:51
• Hip-hop beef: 21 Savage vs Fivio Foreign: 47:45 – 55:36
• Listener advice (Original Gurus): 56:23 – 62:36

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For Listeners & Fans

If you missed this episode, you’ll want to check the deeper dives on election interference, public accountability for artists, and how personal growth interacts with public controversy. The episode closes with both laughter and real talk—like always.

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“Don’t call it a podcast.”—[00:00, Ebro]

Transcript

[Ebro]

Just don't call it a podcast. All right, Ladies and gentlemen, Rosenberg.

[Rosenberg]

Experience. Oh, yeah, Adding experience.

[Ebro]

Same way. We didn't talk about which artwork we're going to use on our show. We don't talk about name changes either. We just get right into it.

[Rosenberg]

Whoa. The experience is crazy.

[Laura]

Experience.

[Ebro]

Because here's the deal. Why would we talk about things ahead of time? Like what. What clips do we have ready for today's show? I haven't seen a list, and I don't know where we took the clips from, because I do want to give credit to the. To the creators that we steal from for this program.

[Rosenberg]

I want you.

[Laura]

Which is nice. Yes, we should.

[Ebro]

I think it's the right thing to do.

[Laura]

And we've been doing a pretty good job. I mean, we've been doing it, but.

[Ebro]

It'S just not second nature yet. Like, I'm still sitting here, like, what clips do we have for today's show? And I haven't been provided a list.

[Rosenberg]

Well, yeah, you're used to a ragtag operation, and when it's a ragtag operation, it trickles down. You go, we don't need to do stuff like that. But now we're. This is a real thing that's happening. We got plans now.

[Ebro]

Rosenberg, what should we expect to see on your social media this week from Saudi Arabia?

[Rosenberg]

What can you expect to see?

[Ebro]

What should we look for people who want to. I don't know what's happening?

[Rosenberg]

Well, the Royal Rumble is happening on Saturday night from Riyadh. They built a stadium in the last month, bro. You could see a picture from January 5th that shows just dirt.

[Ebro]

I'll wait. I'll wait until you get back to comment. You guys, put, Put. Put this on the side. Like, this doesn't seem like when you see this sort of thing happen. When they build stadiums in, like, a couple of days, there's usually problems. And I. You're doing the dance. I'm gonna help you do the dance. I don't want no smoke.

[Laura]

Okay.

[Ebro]

Throw the dance and music on.

[Laura]

All right, let's go.

[Ebro]

Because when you go to these other nations, they didn't have people working 24 hours a day every day for a month.

[Rosenberg]

I looked up one thing, I said, because, you know, I'm there for few days, and, like, the. My first day, I'm gonna have. We're going to Six Flags. They have, like, the tallest. They have the tallest, biggest, fastest roller coaster in the world. So. Okay, I'm doing that. No, I'm doing that. I'm doing that.

[Laura]

You can still do that. Rosenberg. I was a fanatic. I loved the. The more loops, the better, fam. I can't do it anymore. I get all, like, dizzy afterwards.

[Rosenberg]

Wow. You literally can't do it.

[Laura]

I cannot. And I used to love it.

[Ebro]

Don't work now.

[Laura]

I mean, it works 73% of the time.

[Ebro]

Equilibrium's off.

[Laura]

So it messes off, maybe. But I can't do it no more.

[Rosenberg]

I hope. I hope it's okay for me. So to your point, I'll let you know. Look for that on my social media.

[Laura]

Oh, God.

[Ebro]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

But then, yeah, then the rumble Saturday night. I've never done this trip before. Everyone I'm going with has gone to Saudi before. Everyone speaks very highly of the way that they're treated and the accommodations and all the things that. That you would expect. And I'm excited about the event, too, because these Saudi shows, there's a high expectation that people show up and show out.

[Laura]

Talk to me about it. Talk to me.

[Rosenberg]

Well, early on, people used to. The rumors used to go out there that they were like. Well, the. The folks in Saudi have high expectations. The rumor is. This is years ago. They're like, the room. The rumor is they asked if Andre the Giant could show up. And they'd be like, he's been dead for 30. I know. And so there's always kind of a joke. There's always kind of a joke leading up to the big Saudi events. Like, do they have an expectation that people who aren't even alive are somehow going to show up? It's like, hey, we don't care if they're alive or not. We got money. You want to show up or not?

[Ebro]

Well, look, I'm going to wait until you get back. Hit the dancing music. This is me dancing right now on behalf of Rosenberg. Because I don't want. No, I don't want nothing to happen. The way they came for comedians that were going to Saudi Arabia getting big bags, the way they came for golfers that were going to Saudi Arabia to get big bags.

[Rosenberg]

Can I. Well, I know people aren't bright, so I have to lay out, like, a big difference here, folks. I have to lay it a bit. Everyone's allowed to have the. The opinion that they want on the Saudi Arabia issue. And I certainly, everyone can. I'm not going to have that today. As I'm about to step out the door and go. However, I will say this. There is a difference between. I'm going to go perform and get a huge bag from the Saudi government myself. I'M going to take that and go do a huge show and make as much money as I can. There's a difference between that and the corporate entity that you work for, which many people do these days, says, we are making money there. You work for us. You're going to come to the places where we do events. I just think there's an important distinction there between people being the ones who decide to go versus the people who just work for a place and go.

[Ebro]

I agree with you. I don't know if it's huge.

[Rosenberg]

It's pretty significant.

[Ebro]

No, because if you work. I don't want to do this right now because I'm doing.

[Laura]

Let's just.

[Ebro]

This is me dance.

[Laura]

Just hit the dance.

[Ebro]

We're dancing.

[Laura]

Let's not get into it, man.

[Rosenberg]

Well, we can argue when I get back, but there's a huge difference because guess what? Every one of us works for someplace that's doing something we don't want.

[Ebro]

But you have a prerogative.

[Rosenberg]

Everybody got choices, and some people have different level choices.

[Ebro]

And Griff says he doesn't work for anybody but this show. So there's. And then there's that. And neither.

[Rosenberg]

Guess what, he's not gonna like all.

[Ebro]

The decisions made here, and neither does.

[Rosenberg]

RA and they're gonna get to that point too. And we don't like any of the choices they're making up there either. Guess what?

[Ebro]

Here I am now. Now we get into this show today. Laura is preparing us to take us to the depths of hell. That I don't think due to this 21 savage FAO situation, which, by the way, I want to chalk it up and say, this is all a work.

[Rosenberg]

It's.

[Ebro]

It's helping Fio and it's helping 21 Savage. Because wasn't it. Yo. Wasn't it oddly quiet for 21 Savage's album, Rosenberg?

[Laura]

Considering quiet, I mean, I think so.

[Rosenberg]

Considering how highly I heard.

[Ebro]

No, I love the album.

[Laura]

I wouldn't say highly quiet because I.

[Ebro]

Saw a lot of talk playing See, here we are again.

[Laura]

But it didn't last.

[Ebro]

But did people play the songs? The songs. Did they play the soon.

[Rosenberg]

Did they play this?

[Laura]

Well, if you want to get into the boot, let me know. I'm ready.

[Ebro]

As of yet, we're still early in the program. We usually break. We go to hell with you in the. In the lowdown. Around 30 after. Before we get to the original gurus. Rahsaan. Before we get into Laura taking us to hell. I don't know if you guys follow this woman. I Posted her before. And I think I've shared clips with you all. You know, follow this under ish. Ebro sent. Okay, but I, I love. I really like this woman's takes. She's very smart. She's okay. She's like a. A biblical philosophical theologian of some sort. She's great.

[Laura]

Okay.

[Ebro]

She's great. Her name's Monta. On Instagram. Do you have the clip?

[Laura]

Oh, I'm excited. Interesting. This is about stealing the elections. This is about making sure that they can fraudulently rig the midterm elections because they know if they don, they will lose. All of this violence is a distraction. It is to distract from the Epstein files and it is to rig the election. I'm going to show you this video first. I interviewed Governor Pritzker on January 15th, and I know the other video I posted didn't post the other half. That's not important right now. I'll get to that later. On January 15th, I asked Governor Pritzker, how is this going to affect the midterms? ICE has something to do with the midterms. How do you think this is going to affect it? And this, this is what he said to me.

[Ebro]

I.

[Laura]

On January 15th, I can tell you that.

[Rosenberg]

Why is it that they asked for all 50 states voter rolls claiming that they want to look for fraud in elections?

[Ebro]

Because in 2026, when they lose the.

[Rosenberg]

Election, they are going to claim fraud and maybe try to invalidate the elections and maybe seize the ballot boxes.

[Ebro]

And so.

[Rosenberg]

And they can only do that if they've militarized, you know, major cities.

[Laura]

That was on January 15th. And now Chris Murphy, Senator Chris Murphy just released a statement. You can watch the whole statement here saying that Pam Bondi sent Minnesota officials an ultimatum that to get ICE out of Minnesota, they needed their entire voter roll database because Minnesota refused to give them voter data that they have the right to do. This is about making sure that the focus isn't on the Epstein files and it is absolutely about making sure that we do not have free and fair elections this year. Yep, I agree with her. I think we all do.

[Rosenberg]

Sorry, the last point. She said it's. It's not about the Epstein files. It's about.

[Ebro]

No, she says it is. It's about both. Yeah, that's what I got from it.

[Rosenberg]

I got it because I'm. I'm sort of. I'm sort of getting to a point where I almost believe the Epstein files is almost a distraction. Like we keep going back to. Nah, they don't. What's in the Epstein Files. I'm not saying there's nothing bad in the Epstein files. I'm saying what's it gonna do? We know these people. There's nothing. It could be in there. That Trump was the most. The most Epsteiny Epstein er. There was. I don't think it does anything. I think that it's almost distracting us from the. The they're never going to leave office part.

[Ebro]

I. I think.

[Laura]

I think two things can be true.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura]

I think it could all be true. There's something in those files, Rosenberg, that people are shocked.

[Ebro]

I think these for sure, masterminds, and they are accustomed to running plays on us, the regular population, at levels that we cannot keep up with. They got money, they got power. They have control of all of the levers. They can pull them all, bro.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. No, I think that's probably fair, too. I don't know, I just keep thinking, like, whenever anyone does the. But this is all a lot to do, just to distract from the.

[Ebro]

I don't know, I'm like, that's too.

[Rosenberg]

I don't think it's that.

[Ebro]

Too simple, too simplified. But I do believe. But I do believe what Ma Tomato was just saying right there. Because why Minneapolis? Why are they going so hard? Think about how hard they're going in Minneapolis.

[Laura]

Yeah. And for them to just say it. Hey, we'll pull ice out if you just give us the voter data. Like, what? That's what it's going to take.

[Rosenberg]

And. And I know that Trump hates walls, but not enough for this. Like. Like there are a lot of people he hates.

[Laura]

How many times.

[Rosenberg]

Just a walls thing.

[Laura]

Yeah. How many times have we seen Steve Bannon and God knows who say we have to win the midterms or else we're all going to go to jail. They're shook because they know all of this doesn't look good and they're scared.

[Rosenberg]

You know what this shows? I got to tell you, I know this sounds crazy. I'm kind of impressed with the ability so far of the voting system to hold up under this much effort for it to be rigged by the people who are in power there. Because they have been, Laura. They've been trying to set up to never leave office since Trump got in the first time. We're now almost at the midterm, and I'm not saying they won't be able to stay in because it seems that's the path they're trying to get on. But they're fighting, bro. Like, whatever was set up to be like, no, we're going to Keep these elections fair, even if bastards take over it. Yo, Ebro is like Game of Thrones drones. They're sitting there at the wall holding on for dear life to keep this democracy alive, and they're fighting to break it down.

[Ebro]

It's always rigged in all of this sort of thing. It must. There's something here that's not riggable to the degree they want it to be.

[Rosenberg]

That they want it to something. Remember the whole Trump saying, get me the votes, go find me the votes, like that.

[Ebro]

It's too hard for them to take over. And for those that they say voting isn't important, really, all of this.

[Laura]

Oh, facts.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, facts. But that's why Minnesota is such a good one. Because Minnesota's purple, right?

[Ebro]

Like, it's. It definitely could. It could.

[Rosenberg]

It leans blue.

[Ebro]

Johnson. It's like it could.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, it leans, but they could get it. They're not gonna fight in California. They're not fighting in New York. They're not fighting in Massachusetts. But Minnesota is probably one they feel they could get and get those electoral votes or get those congressional seats or get what they need. I wonder if that's it. They want the ones that are closer where they have a chance to rig it.

[Laura]

That makes sense. That makes sense. What are we talking about playing in our faces, bro?

[Ebro]

The Alex Pretty thing. Some things we didn't get to yesterday. Rest in peace. Alex Peretti. That is the name of the person who was shot in the street by ICE agents over the weekend. In his back. He had a legal weapon.

[Rosenberg]

Let's.

[Ebro]

Let's reiterate that.

[Rosenberg]

Illegal.

[Ebro]

That's right out of his waistband. He did not pull it out himself. And then they shot him while his back was to them. Six times was the report. Did you guys see the Obama statement? Did you see the NBAs. Yeah, NBA players association statement.

[Rosenberg]

You see Clinton.

[Ebro]

Clinton's. Did the NRA had a statement.

[Laura]

That was the most surprising one. I was like, y' all chiming in.

[Rosenberg]

I'd love to get a. I'd love to get a George Bush statement. I'd love a Bush statement right now. If you could get all three of them. If you could get the three. That's it, right? Yeah, the three living presidents, former presidents, to all have a statement against it. I think there's a little bit of.

[Ebro]

I just recently sent a clip over to the team, the Timberwolves held a moment of silence.

[Rosenberg]

Yes, I saw that. I saw that. Well, well, keep in mind, their game was postponed on Saturday. They postponed it to Sunday. They had a Warriors Warriors. Or. Or. Or maybe that one was permanently moved and this game was scheduled for Sunday. Whatever it was, there was a game Saturday that didn't happen. All right? And the. The douchebag right wing sports slash political commentator Clay Travis tried to come for the NBA and Minnesota and say them canceling the game was grandstanding and political. They did it for no reason. Just look the mini. The Minnesota Wild played a home game on Saturday night. They didn't move their game. Good job, NHL. He was quickly informed in the comments. Hey, moron. The Minnesota wild play in St. Paul. They don't play in Minneapolis. They didn't have to cancel their game.

[Ebro]

They play across the river. Across the river.

[Rosenberg]

They play across the river. There was a lot of stuff actually happening on Saturday where the T. Wolves play. So shockingly, someone on the right tried to weigh in, make a point. Congratulations.

[Ebro]

You played just now.

[Rosenberg]

Did we see the Chris. We forgot the Chris Broussard statement yesterday.

[Ebro]

Now, I didn't. I. I saw you send it, but we didn't get all the way into it.

[Rosenberg]

He.

[Ebro]

What he do get religious?

[Laura]

What happened?

[Rosenberg]

He. He decided to use his religion to throw out one of the craziest false equivalencies. Here we go. Yo. Oh, you have it up there? I think we. I think we may have it. Yeah.

[Ebro]

You can't clearly and boldly state the craziness of Democrats being unable to define what a woman is and saying men can't. Can get pregnant and the madness of Republicans defending the murder of Alex Preddy. Then you're following a political party ideology and not the Lord Jesus Christ.

[Rosenberg]

Hey, yo, my man. Congratulations.

[Ebro]

It's also. Get the F out of here. Bring.

[Rosenberg]

Yo, it's. There's so many different.

[Ebro]

So is he saying that following either side is ridiculous? You should just be following the Lord and Savior.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, just. Just a class. Just a classic. Just a classic false equivalency. Let me use religion. And look, you're bad on both sides. None of y' all love Christ. Some of y' all don't know what a man and a woman is. And some of you think it's okay to kill Alex Preddy. Yo, yo, honestly, when people. You, bruh, shut you. I shut your religious ass up. Shut your religious ass up. Stop using your religion to try to have to. Yo, bro, go. Go start your church group or your synagogue group, your mosque group, Go have your religious talk. It's great when we are trying to have political discourse or socioeconomic discussions and you try to make it all about your love of Christ and You do it to minimize. By doing that, you minimize the murder of Alex Preddy and you make, and you totally create a false idea of what the Democratic Party is even about. Like it was such kiss ass BS because you didn't want to stand on business. You were unwilling to just stand on business. So instead you tried to drag in the left, bro, just out of here. I know it's your man. Even that's your man.

[Ebro]

I don't know if it's my man. I've met him a couple of times. He's been not. We've been nice to each other. I don't. He, he came up to the show. Yeah, but I don't, I mean, I don't agree with the statement at all. I don't follow him close enough to give a damn.

[Laura]

But damn, Rosenberg, where you go? Eo, that's your man. Damn.

[Ebro]

Listen, listen, I, I have, there's people that cool with that say crazy ish. That's for damn sure. I don't even know him well enough to give him as much venom as I was giving Stephen A. Smith. And I don't know if you guys see a pattern here, but people I'm closer to, I get more upset with.

[Laura]

Yeah, I see that.

[Ebro]

I mean, I'm willing to go, I'm willing to go at people I, I care about or know more intimately than I am around people I don't really, I don't even really know that well.

[Rosenberg]

That makes sense that. Well, for a lot of reasons. I respect it. I respect it. I have a nice balance of both. I find I have too much anger towards people in general. But I would say it's split among the people I know and people I don't know.

[Ebro]

Well.

[Rosenberg]

I saw clips this weekend of Andrew Schultz talking about Trump. All these things that I just.

[Ebro]

You hit the F out of here. The mental F out of here went down. Wait, is that, Wait, everybody's backpedaling.

[Laura]

Everybody's backpedaling or what is it? You don't follow these people?

[Rosenberg]

His clip, Someone sent it to me. His clip was just talking about. It's just always excuse making and you know why people would have voted for Trump or laid out on the election and blah blah, blah. It's just all. And what really bothers me is just, you know what it is? I wish I was better at speaking like really confidently about shit I really knew nothing about. Honestly, it's actually a problem. I'm dead ass. It's a problem for me. I would be better at ESPN if I could just openly Yell and act like I truly knew when I don't know. But you'll notice if you listen to me on Don, Han, and Rosenberg, if I get super passionate, it's gonna be inside something I know. Well, you're not gonna hear me on hockey, trying to, like, throw a fit. But if you really want to be out there like that, you just gotta be willing to stand on business of stuff that you have no business talking about. That's the key. And, like, to watch, like, people like Schultz and the like become. I mean, these are the main political voices in some people's lives. They're like, this is the political voice that I look to this guy, the guy from Guy code. That's who I look to for my political choice. So, yeah, that stuff does frustrate me, but people I know also. There aren't as many, though. We don't know that many people being bad right now, do we?

[Ebro]

I mean, there's enough. I bet most of the. Look, things are so crazy right now that as long as you're just not aligned with the psychopaths, you're on the right side of history.

[Rosenberg]

True. It doesn't take much.

[Ebro]

It doesn't take much at all. And then when Alex Preddy gets shot in the street and murdered.

[Rosenberg]

Murdered. Yeah.

[Ebro]

Let's say that's broad daylight. Yeah. Like, I. So when Renee Good got shot and there, you know, people that I work with or like, is this gonna get out of hand? What's gonna happen next? I was like, from what I can tell, most people want to keep things peaceful. They want ice gone from their cities. Yep. But they want peace, and they want. They don't want chaos. That's not what people want. They do not want more violence. When Alex Preddy got shot as a legal gun owner who was protecting a woman who was shoved to the ground, I'm not so sure, guys. And just like the clip we showed earlier, this violence and chaos, the continual antagonization of the public to bait us all into a space where someone's gonna do something Now. Now you're gonna have people who are looking to get active because you literally had someone who's, like, putting his hand up, literally trying to block pepper spray with one hand, hold his phone with another hand, and cover a woman from being abused by federal age get shot in the back, that type of thing. For people who are legal gun owners and people who want to follow the law and who have a moral compass and know what it means to have someone's life in your hands, that is stuff that people can't take, I would think.

[Laura]

And I would hope so. I would hope so.

[Ebro]

Like. No, no, no. We don't hope so, Laura.

[Rosenberg]

We don't.

[Ebro]

We don't want people who are gun owners, legal gun owners.

[Rosenberg]

No.

[Ebro]

Standing on their property, on the corners.

[Laura]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Ebro]

Ready to let off on federal agents because now federal agents cannot be trusted. Like, it's clear cut. This man had his back to you. You had already taken his weapon.

[Rosenberg]

The weapon that when everyone talks Second Amendment. Ebro, what was the Second Amendment about again?

[Ebro]

The right to bear arms.

[Rosenberg]

To protect you. From who?

[Ebro]

The government, literally.

[Rosenberg]

He had the weapon for the reason you're supposed to.

[Ebro]

But he didn't pull it out. He had pulled it out. No, he did everything right.

[Rosenberg]

He's in a situation where the government is acting basically as a domestic terrorist. He has a gun on him legally, to protect himself, does nothing with it. They take it from him and then murder him. And yo, did you see the video of the. Of the. One of the other agents clapping when it happened?

[Laura]

No.

[Ebro]

See that? See? You see what I mean? You see what I mean?

[Rosenberg]

You see?

[Ebro]

I didn't see that within seconds. See now the top. But see my. And. And when I. When I saw Alex Preddy get murdered, I sent it to some people who are concerned that things may get out of hand. And I was like, now we have something to worry about. This now is something to really worry about.

[Rosenberg]

Powder keg situation.

[Ebro]

No, this is it. This is it. This is it. Where you have an ICU nurse at a VA hospital protecting a woman, a veteran pull his weapon out, was on the ground, back to people. They put. They unholstered his weapon and then still shot him in the street.

[Rosenberg]

And mind you, Ebro, you know more about this place than I do. Correct me if I'm wrong, Minneapolis is.

[Ebro]

One of the happier.

[Rosenberg]

Better.

[Ebro]

Oh, it's the greatest.

[Rosenberg]

Diverse. People get along well. Like, they're doing this in a happy city where people are pretty good. This is not Los Angeles or. Or New York or Houston or Chicago.

[Ebro]

My whole family, you know, I sent you guys pictures and video, didn't I?

[Laura]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

I. Yeah. Of the rally.

[Ebro]

Well, yeah, but that was my family. Those. My nieces. Yeah, right. Those are like. And then my brother's out with his wife, just standing on the street. These aren't people who normally protest.

[Rosenberg]

No, it's a chill place. Right?

[Ebro]

Well, no, I meant my family is not people who normally protest, but Minneapolis in general. Minneapolis in general is. Is. They. They protest, but they are not. It's It's a Minneapolis, in my experience, what I know of it is a great place. It's got problems like any other city, I'm sure.

[Rosenberg]

Sure.

[Ebro]

But of course, from what I understand, if it's a very inclusive.

[Rosenberg]

It ain't the biggest wild out city, though this could happen in.

[Ebro]

No, no.

[Rosenberg]

That's for sure. Ebro. If this was in Oakland right now.

[Ebro]

All right, listen. First, Oakland's not even. Oakland's not the same as it used to be. That's. Let's start.

[Rosenberg]

Sure, sure.

[Ebro]

But also. Yeah, nah.

[Rosenberg]

And.

[Ebro]

But on that point, on that point, we're entering a phase where all of you hard rocks, all you street dudes, all of you gang members that claim you putting on for your block and you putting on for your building, y' all real quiet when the ICE agents come around. You're. You're willing to terrorize grandma. You're willing to terrorize children at the playground. Right? But when people are coming up terrorizing your neighborhood and your aunts and uncles, y' all quiet as church mouses.

[Rosenberg]

Although maybe that's for the best. Ibrah, to your point, maybe. Maybe that's not what we need.

[Laura]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

The point remains. I hear your point.

[Ebro]

The point remains.

[Rosenberg]

The point remains.

[Ebro]

But we'll see a lot of. A lot of those neighborhoods. A lot of those neighborhoods. It doesn't seem that ICE is showing up that aggressively either. Right. The. And I said this. I said this. Why Minneapolis? Why are they being so aggressive? We talked about this yesterday. I want people to keep asking that question.

[Laura]

Why these suburban neighborhoods? Because.

[Ebro]

Why, why? Why? Why? And I think we know why, based on the clip we showed a little while ago, is because they want the voter rolls for Minnesota and they want Minneapolis to be destabilized, and they want to try to make it into a narrative of chaos so that they could try to turn that state red and so that they could get at these midterm elections and try to. And try to really take advantage of the midterms, which are on the way now. In other news. Rosenberg.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro]

Do you have the Kanye west apology?

[Rosenberg]

I don't. Wait, is there audio or is it a print apology?

[Ebro]

No, it's written.

[Laura]

It's all over the place.

[Ebro]

You haven't seen it. You haven't seen it yesterday.

[Rosenberg]

It was two days ago. I saw yesterday someone mentioned in the chat, and I was like, wait, there's a Kanye west apology.

[Laura]

Go to the Shade Room. Go to any of the big blocks.

[Ebro]

Well, compost. You guys want me to read the whole thing?

[Rosenberg]

I Mean, how long is it?

[Ebro]

Here, let me see if I can get this over to Rahsaan to post on, on this.

[Laura]

It's a lot. That's what I'm saying here.

[Ebro]

Rah, Rah. Post this.

[Laura]

I say we go through chunks of it.

[Rosenberg]

No, I, I, I did see it yesterday after the program, but it needs to be talked about on the program.

[Ebro]

I mean, It's. He wrote 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 paragraphs. Wait. 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 paragraphs. Signs, love. Yay.

[Rosenberg]

That's more than he's ever even read.

[Ebro]

And it starts to those I've hurt.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, thank you.

[Ebro]

25 years ago, I was in a car accident. Broke my jaw and caused injury to the right frontal lobe of my brain.

[Rosenberg]

I'm sorry. Keep going.

[Ebro]

No, come on, man. Maybe he's, he's leaning on cte, man. This might be something.

[Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Laura]

All right, keep going, Keep going.

[Ebro]

At the time, the focus was on the visible damage, the, the fracture, the swelling, and the immediate physical trauma. The deeper injury, the one inside my skull, went unnoticed. Comprehensive scans were done. Neurological exams were limited, and the possibility of a frontal lobe injury was never raised. It wasn't properly, it wasn't properly diagnosed until 2023. That medical oversight caused serious damage to my mental health and led to my bipolar type 1 diagnosis. And then he goes into. Bipolar disorder comes with its own defense system, denial. When you're manic, you don't think you're sick. You think everyone else is overreacting. You feel like you're seeing the world more clearly than ever, when in reality, you're losing the grip, losing your grip entirely. Once again, people label you as crazy. And he kind of, he goes into that. He said, the scariest thing about this disorder is how pervasive, or, excuse me, how persuasive it is when it tells you you don't need help. It makes you blind, but convinced you have insight. You feel powerful, certain, unstoppable.

[Rosenberg]

All right, here's eo. Here's where it gets to that. The real meat of it. In that fractured state, I gravitated towards the most destructive symbol I could find, the swastika. And even sold T shirts bearing it. One of the difficult aspects of having bipolar type 1 are the disconnected moments, many of which I still cannot recall, that led to poor judgment and reckless behavior that oftentimes feel like an out of body experience. I regret and am deeply mortified by my actions in that state and am committed to accountability, treatment, and meaningful change. It does not excuse What I did, though I am not a Nazi or an anti Semite, I love Jewish people. To the black community, which held me down through all of the highs and lows and darkest of times. The black community is unquestionably the foundation of who I am. I am so sorry to have let you down. I love us. And then he goes into a manic episode part.

[Ebro]

Well, yeah. He says in early 2025, I fell into a four month long manic episode. Psychotic, paranoid, impulsive behavior that destroyed my life. As the situation became increasingly unsustainable, there were times I didn't want to be here anymore. Now, he says, I have found comfort. In Reddit forums of all places. Different people speak of being in manic or depressive episodes of a similar nature. I read their stories and realized that I was not alone. It's not just me who ruins their entire life once a year. Despite taking meds every day and being told by the so called best doctors in the world that I am not bipolar but merely experiencing symptoms of autism, my words as a leader in my community have global impact and influence in my mania. I lost complete sight of that as I found my new baseline and new center through an effective regime of medic, regimen of medication. He said regime here, but I think he means regimen, a medication, therapy, exercise and clean living. I have newfound much needed clarity. I am pouring my energy into positive, meaningful art, music, clothing, design and other new ideas to help the world. I'm not asking for sympathy or a free pass. Though I aspire to earn your forgiveness, I write today simply to ask for your patience and understanding as I find my way home with love. Yay.

[Rosenberg]

Well, this is certainly worth addressing here on the program. Can I just ask a question?

[Laura]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Respectfully. And I'm not going to totally take a dump on this because you guys know I want. I don't want to hate Kanye. So I hope that this is the beginning of something meaningful. Why I respect the apology to the black community. Why did the Jews just get an I love Jewish people? Why no apology?

[Ebro]

Well, didn't he already apologize?

[Rosenberg]

Not in this letter.

[Ebro]

Not in this letter.

[Rosenberg]

Well, when he went and sat with the weirdo rabbi.

[Ebro]

No, I thought he didn't. He put out some sort of apology Also, I thought, I don't know.

[Rosenberg]

This seemed like the official statement. So I would have also said, I am deeply sorry to the Jewish community who I clearly hurt, my fans and all the people who love me when I, you know.

[Ebro]

So you're saying it's not good enough?

[Rosenberg]

I'M not saying that. I'm just saying it's incomplete. It still feels incomplete. I was literally waiting for that part.

[Ebro]

Well, he said, I regret and I am deeply mortified by my actions in that state. And I am committed to accountability, treatment and meaningful change. It does not excuse what I did, though. I am not a Nazi or an anti Semite. I love Jewish people.

[Rosenberg]

I'm also just very weary of that. Doesn't it sound cringe whenever anyone just throws in the I love blank?

[Ebro]

I love black people.

[Rosenberg]

I love Jews. Like.

[Ebro]

No, you don't.

[Rosenberg]

No, I don't. I'm glad you do. I don't love all Jews. I don't love all black people. That, that's. I don't love all anything.

[Ebro]

So when people say I love all Jewish people. He didn't say. People.

[Rosenberg]

So anyways, I'm not gonna. I guess I'm not gonna nitpick, but like the, the apology.

[Ebro]

But you are people.

[Rosenberg]

That was. I'm nitpicking. You should have just said I'm sorry.

[Ebro]

Well, because. Well, now. But let's keep it a hunted. Let's keep it a hundred. Let's keep it all the way. A hundred.

[Rosenberg]

All right. Please.

[Ebro]

He also said in his letter he lost his way and he's trying to find his way home. And he speaks about how black people are the foundation to who he is.

[Rosenberg]

That's facts.

[Ebro]

So this wasn't. A lot of. This wasn't about everybody else. A lot of this was trying to get back home to a place of warmth and love and understanding with people who may truly understand him and cherish him for just being a human being.

[Rosenberg]

And let's be honest, black people have a long history of walking. Because, listen, and I get it. The shared experience of dealing with this country, it makes it easy. But come on home. Come on. I get it. I do get it.

[Ebro]

That's right.

[Rosenberg]

But it's also self serving. That's.

[Ebro]

That's the.

[Rosenberg]

Because that's where, you know you can get a soft landing spot.

[Ebro]

Well, maybe, but also what? Both two things can be true. Two things can be true because the, the misdi. Remember this starts talking about the misdiagnosis of the medical community. And the black people have a long history of being abused, misdiagnosed and. And just harmed by the medical space. So it starts in that space. So a lot of this letter is about that.

[Rosenberg]

Can I tell you who else has a long history of being misdiagnosed and screwed over in the doctor's office?

[Ebro]

Everybody.

[Rosenberg]

All not super rich. People, basically, you walk into a hospital, it's. It's like walking into Midas. You hope they could look at your car.

[Ebro]

Don't. On Midas, man.

[Rosenberg]

Which one? Name one you don't like.

[Ebro]

I don't know, but I like that, boys. I like Midas. I like Jiffy.

[Laura]

I don't know. I have mixed feelings about it because I don't know if he's just trying to come back because he has an album. Isn't an album on the way?

[Ebro]

There is an album on the way. Here we go. Laura.

[Laura]

So I just feel like every time that there's something like this, he pulls a stunt. So I don't know if I really believe this. This is really one of those. We shall see. Because album drops right, everyone's like, yay. Is he still going to be holding hands with Trump? Is he still going to be rocking with Candace Owens?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. What about the White Lives Matter?

[Ebro]

It.

[Laura]

You know what I mean?

[Ebro]

So I think he's addressing a lot of that. And take listen in the letter, based on the letter, he's taking accountability for his actions. He's attributing some of his actions and lack of, lack of understanding of his actions to his car accident and the mental and physical brain damage. He's literally saying, I have brain damage and I, it contributes to my bipolar and I'm a work in progress. He didn't. Nothing in here said he was fixed. No, nothing. He's even acknowledging like, yo, I, I hopefully I can prove to be a better person.

[Rosenberg]

And if he's, and if he's really messed up Ebro like he's saying he is, it could just, he could still do the same things again. That's the hard part.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Laura]

How do we know? How do we know he wrote this?

[Ebro]

Well, we don't. But also, I think there's probably people in the chat who could confirm they have pride, family members who deal with this and family members who apologize and say they're going to be better and they're going to do all the things and then things unravel. They stop taking their medication or something triggers something.

[Rosenberg]

And they're back.

[Ebro]

And they're back.

[Laura]

Yes. And I, I grew. My dad was like this and I always felt like he was a manipulator and he took advantage.

[Ebro]

Bring up your business. Laura St.

[Laura]

It's okay, cuz I've talked about it on the show before and that's why to me, I just, you know, people say, oh, wait, going through mental health, you know, issues. I don't excuse It. Because I've seen it. I grew up with a person who used that as a weapon to excuse this bad behavior.

[Rosenberg]

Like, so how do you know where the line is?

[Laura]

You don't. You don't. But I also know that as a person who is constantly hurt by someone over and over and over again. Sorry, hurt, sorry, hurt, Sorry, hurt. It comes a time, Rosenberg, where you're going to be like, all right, enough, enough. Sorry. I'm sick. Sorry.

[Ebro]

So is the one thing that we could ask for here or hope for here not specific to Kanye west, but how. But specific to how people respond to his behavior? Because one of the biggest problems for me wasn't. I mean, yes, his behavior, but it was this past that his sycophants gave him online that no, like, he couldn't do anything wrong. He's a genius. No, Kanye's the greatest. That's really the problem.

[Laura]

And on top of that, the ones that believed it. Ebro. Because there were ones that were like, wait a second. Yes, the Jews are the devil. There was a lot who really, really jumped in and believed this.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, no, we saw. That's the thing is where are the comments going to be for all of the other people who supported everything he said? Are they. Where are their apologies and where are their explanations?

[Ebro]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

Because he might have been out of his gourd, but I was getting into fights with other artists because I'm like, really? You're supporting this? Like, this is. I hate to say it. So listen, I believe in forgiveness. If this is real and he continues on this path and he really is a good person, and he's like, yo, man, for the rest of his life, he's like, man, I was in a bad way. I. I do things different now. I will 100% forgive.

[Laura]

It's a wait and see.

[Rosenberg]

It's a wait and see. But I am open to it. I would love that. That would be way better for all of us who love his music to not have to cringe when we hear his music and go, oh, no. Yeah, he's back. That's what we've always wanted. However, this is a classic example of what Michael K. Would say. Sorry doesn't fix the lamp. You know what I mean? The lamp is broken. Like, there. He helped contribute. We are now living. No matter how much I disagree with and dislike the adl, the stats on real anti Semitism, not made up, fake criticism of Israel that they're calling anti Semitism, the cases of real anti Semitism are at like, an all time high. While Israel Did a.

[Ebro]

The.

[Rosenberg]

The lion's share of making people have negative feelings towards Jews in the world that we operate in and like social media, hip hop, etc, Yo, Kanye turned the temperature up. He really did. It was impactful, bro. I saw, I saw my Jew hatred go up ease without question. Question as a result of his work.

[Laura]

Yo, and, and empowering these horrible people. Just last week, guys, you remember all those white supremacists that are in the club in Miami.

[Ebro]

But remember.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, listening to Hill, right?

[Ebro]

Yes. Yeah, but remember turning each other. Listen, Candace Owens got a larger platform because of Kanye.

[Laura]

Yes.

[Ebro]

Nick Fuentes used to work with Kanye.

[Laura]

Milo whatever his Trump.

[Ebro]

Kanye ran to the White House and soft shoot around the presidential desk with Trump. Like all of this stuff happened 10 years ago or less.

[Laura]

Guys. He ran for president.

[Rosenberg]

No, but Laura, what you. The people you just laid out. That's why it's so hard. That's why your apology has to now come with action.

[Laura]

It has to.

[Rosenberg]

Like we need. Not immediately. I'm gonna need to see videos with you sitting down with Candace Owens. With you sitting down with Nick Fuentes. With you sitting down with the people that you inspired to take their Nazi loving platform. Candace isn't a Nazi loving platform, but she has had a Jew hate platform. Go you now we need to see you go to these people and try to work against the bad that you did. You can't just say sorry about my album My Bad Jews.

[Laura]

I doubt that's ever gonna happen. I don't so believe it.

[Rosenberg]

I'm open to it.

[Ebro]

Well now, but then there's another layer. There's another layer here because I've still been listening to some of Kanye's music and trying to find some fire in there. I listen to Donda 1 and 2. I was looking, I was looking for some fire. The fire's been limited, guys. That's the other issue.

[Rosenberg]

That's true. Even though people will tell you it's a classic. Donda's a classic.

[Ebro]

They'll say, stop it. It's got some heat on it. But the heat rocks. Haven't been as consistent. That's a whole other convo since. What was the. What was the. What was the. There was an album even where he was talking. What was the album where it had like mountains on the COVID where he was talking about not taking his medicine. He was a superhero.

[Rosenberg]

And all that was in the, in the, the Wyoming album. Yay.

[Ebro]

Is that what it was? Was it just called Yay or I see something? Wasn't there something?

[Rosenberg]

Oh, oh, oh. I'm not bipolar. Yes, I am. Or whatever.

[Laura]

Something like that. Yes, yes.

[Rosenberg]

That had a few heaters on it.

[Ebro]

Though, but also had a lot of trash. All I'm saying is. All I'm saying is the batting average isn't as hot low. So there's another layer here where, look, yes, you can apologize. And I hope the best for you, Kanye. I hope. I want you to work through everything you're working through, and I. I hope the best for you and your children, by the way. And I hope this path that you're on inspires others who need to go get checked out, because mental health and understanding what you're going through and the emotional stability being caused by the world around us is huge. Huge. So.

[Rosenberg]

Yo, you know, do you remember when it's. When he first came out around that Wyoming album and his discovery was my bipolar is my superpower.

[Laura]

Yeah, Yeah, I remember that.

[Rosenberg]

I'm gonna go ahead and say that he just wrote his own letter that says, congratulations, you played yourself.

[Ebro]

Oh, egg. Coupled with the other button.

[Rosenberg]

You didn't use it as a superpower. You used it. It ended up just being a vehicle for spewing every horrible possible thought in your head. So, listen, I'm not going to be some person who says, I won't forgive him. Of course I will. I hope he does it. I hope he does the right thing. I hope he does.

[Laura]

We'll see.

[Ebro]

Listen, I think it's time to get to the lowdown, which then there's gonna be.

[Rosenberg]

What, you mean a rundown?

[Ebro]

The rundown. But then we're gonna be in the lowdown because Laura's taking us to hell. This is about to get crazy. Who approved this artwork?

[Rosenberg]

That's not artwork.

[Laura]

All right, wait, did you guys see the rumor that had everybody going nuts? So there was a rumor that was going around that Bad Bunny was going to wear some kind of, like, gown or dress to honor queer icons at the Super Bowl.

[Ebro]

Oh, boy.

[Laura]

So people. Yo, Ebro, you know, the one thing that. That is very popular is homophobia.

[Ebro]

You don't say.

[Laura]

Yo, the comments, the meltdowns, especially, specifically. No, my. I. I went into, like, the. The Spanish blogs. Oh, my God.

[Ebro]

They were losing.

[Laura]

They were crying.

[Rosenberg]

Oh.

[Ebro]

Well, look, I don't know if it's true or false, and I don't care, but guess what? If he did do it, it's the right setting because it's in San Francisco Bay Area.

[Laura]

So what? Right? But look, production sources, okay? And I'm just. This is what I'm reading. Production Sources and reports confirmed to TMZ that he will not be wearing a dress. But Bunny. Bad Bunny could do whatever the hell he wants. Like, I could easily see him wearing some kind of, like, skirt thing and ripping it off. Or I could easily see him.

[Rosenberg]

People are going to lose their mind.

[Ebro]

Whatever. People calm down. The fake outrage. Like, it's. I'm more outraged. I'm more outraged by Rosenberg giving kissy faces to his family with the cameras on while you're trying to do your report. Can we do the show or not? Like, what's going on here?

[Rosenberg]

I'm sorry. The baby was looking at me, and I. She was. And I just couldn't help it.

[Ebro]

I get it.

[Rosenberg]

She now. She now. Wait. She now waves when she sees me from a distance.

[Ebro]

I know, I know. All right, but this is why we need. Our plans need to come to fruition.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. Then I'll have to bring her to the studio. You know what I mean? I mean, to the plans.

[Laura]

To the plans. All right, all right.

[Ebro]

You're the worst.

[Rosenberg]

Yo, by the way, if you haven't been on Patreon tomorrow, we are dropping the Patreon ELR show with our. Your first look at the plans. Nice. You gotta look at. There's something to look at.

[Laura]

Go subscribe right now.

[Ebro]

Patreon Phase one. It's phase.

[Rosenberg]

There's going to be work that needs to be from the beginning of the plans to the full release of the plans. There's work to be done. But it's still cool to see what the plans are looking like, though.

[Laura]

All right, so I'm sure you guys saw the beef between 21, Savage, and Fabio, right?

[Ebro]

Is this the lowdown?

[Laura]

We're gonna get to the lowdown. It's a good transition because the video that I'm going to show you for the Lowdown.

[Ebro]

Okay, so the video goes to the Lowdown, but this story exists in the rundown. Say, yo, yo, make that call to Satan. Your boy Rosenberg, you know what I'm saying?

[Laura]

I'll type a bit, but just to break it down quickly. Right? So, you know, Fabio wasn't really a fan of 21 Savage. His whole F the Streets movement, right? He claimed that since he represents the streets, his. He took it as a personal insult, you know what I mean? And it just started getting messy. Fabio started posting clips of latto.

[Ebro]

Wait, what?

[Laura]

It's so stupid. It is.

[Rosenberg]

I represent the Streets, sir.

[Laura]

It is so stupid. So anyway, we started posting clips of Lotto trying to shade each other. You know, 21 wasn't too happy about that.

[Ebro]

He fired back, decided to go after his girl.

[Laura]

Yes. He posted a clip of Fabio.

[Ebro]

That's. Wait, so I don't know the whole story. So I'm trying to pick this up. Congratulations, you played yourself. You have a problem, Rosenberg. I have a problem with you.

[Laura]

And.

[Ebro]

Something you said, but then I go start posting. Natalie.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. Oh, oh, are you.

[Ebro]

Is that.

[Rosenberg]

Hold up. Is that.

[Laura]

Where have you been?

[Rosenberg]

Is that DJ Academic?

[Laura]

Because that's where it happened.

[Rosenberg]

Because I've seen it happen. Oh, people do it. It's the. It's literally the most made thing a human can do is. I'm sorry. I love Fabio. That is a. You can't do that.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Someone you have beef with, it you can't bring up.

[Laura]

He posted a clip of, like, Lotto doing, like. I think it was like, the Ciphers, a double XL Ciphers, where she, like, made. Threw him in a line. Like, if Fabio hit, you know, hollered at me, I wouldn't, like, turn it down along something along those lines. Oh, well, then.

[Rosenberg]

Hold on, hold on. That. Hold on. I have to amend then. Is he talking ish about her, or is he using content of her.

[Laura]

He's using content of her to take a shot.

[Rosenberg]

Ebro. I'm backing up. I'm backing up. That's not the same as being nasty about her.

[Laura]

All right, now.

[Ebro]

Rahsaan, Rahsaan, you said you had a clip you wanted to add.

[Rosenberg]

Here we go. Do we have a clip? There's the clip. Lowdown, why you think 21 Savage is street?

[Laura]

He's just.

[Rosenberg]

Bro, stop it. The foil.

[Ebro]

Nick, just stop it. In Atlanta. So how come. How come 69 could.

[Rosenberg]

Could.

[Ebro]

Could dis 21 savage so much? Yeah, but he dis New York. Like, he be dissing New York like he's going out style. Nah, but you saying this. You saying street. Don't play with him. I can't watch these conversations.

[Rosenberg]

You can't do it. Can't do it.

[Ebro]

I can't watch this conversation. Have your foreign. Shut your ass up. Stop saying my name. Don't think cooking is trying to change that, Man, y' all gonna sit down somewhere, man, straight up. If your ass walking around with a.38. Don't say nothing to me about the street. Straight up. If y' all ass 35 or older and you've been trying to rap since you was goddamn 17, 16, 15. Don't say nothing to me about the street. You don't know nothing about the street. You ain't did nothing in the street. Straight up. Listen, listen. 21 has a point at a certain look, and I. I'm biased because I like what 21 is saying here.

[Rosenberg]

You mean the anti.

[Ebro]

They're like, yo, yeah, like, yo, if you're over 35 and you. Or you've been getting money or you've been trying to rap since you were 17, like, but I gotta hit five.

[Rosenberg]

I gotta hit 21 with the button, though. Congratulations.

[Ebro]

You played yourself.

[Rosenberg]

Because isn't he the one who's saying we don't need to glorify the streets?

[Ebro]

Yes, yes.

[Rosenberg]

And. But then when Fabio talked. Ish, he went back to. His argument was, nah, you haven't really done dirt in the streets. I have. That's glorifying the streets. Yeah, but the response shouldn't be about doing things.

[Ebro]

Yeah, but he said he was trying to change his life, so he's still. Still in that. He's in that weird. It's a weird space that 21's in. He's like. He's trying to. But y' all trying to pull me back. I'm trying, but you're trying to. You know how it happens, Rosenberg. All right, but listen, Rosenberg, it's like this. It's like the Explore page. Think about it like this. Your explorer page pops up. You're trying to be a better person, but things keep popping up on your explore page that you know, you're not supposed to be engaging with.

[Rosenberg]

Yep, I get it.

[Ebro]

You see what I'm saying? They try to pull it back.

[Rosenberg]

You're right. I've been there. You're right. Guys, just stop. Can they just stop?

[Laura]

All right, so 21. Savage then posted a. A message saying, all the rappers who beat up women think they're tough now.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, boy.

[Laura]

So you. You know Fabio's been involved with domestic violence.

[Ebro]

Yo, this charges down. This is getting. Yo call Satan.

[Laura]

So, yes, please come in, because this video. I haven't seen this video yet, but I know it's nasty. It's time for the low down.

[Ebro]

That's tough. That's tough. Shout out to Hot Rod Rick. It's about time we got that thing moving. I've been waiting for that one. I need my name on the intro.

[Rosenberg]

Hey, Rick.

[Ebro]

I need my name on the intro. I love this story about Fabio. 21. This is what I'm talking about. Two young, successful black man publicly fighting. Maybe it'll lead to violence. Oh, man. This is what I dream about. Shut up.

[Laura]

Say, now, this is a video of. I believe it's 21. I mean, excuse me. Fabio's the mother of his child. Well, she had something to say through his porn history.

[Ebro]

It was gay.

[Laura]

It was mad gay porn history besides the porn history. This has been happening for like two years already. And I have a gay best friend. For those who don't know. While we. This happened for two years already. While we. He will come. He will up as in the first couple times. I just thought, like, it.

[Ebro]

He was just up.

[Laura]

I didn't think nothing of it. I'm saying up as in what? You know, we talk when we. We talk nasty. So instead of saying like this, my.

[Ebro]

Like, he'll say this or give me that. No, it.

[Laura]

And at first I was like, you know, maybe because I'm saying he's probably saying after me confusing it. Like I'm not thinking nothing of it.

[Ebro]

Like, you know, I never experienced no.

[Laura]

I like deal with a deal nothing. And I was just, maybe he's confusing it.

[Ebro]

I said, this is. I don't play with this. Nah, man.

[Laura]

I know you like it. Well, she. She put that out and 2ne1 posted it on his stories.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, listen, we've all been there.

[Ebro]

You're hitting it.

[Rosenberg]

And she's like, oh, oh, I want that. And I'm like, me too.

[Ebro]

I want that.

[Rosenberg]

Come on, man, we're having a good time.

[Ebro]

No, wait, hold up, hold up. Nah, man. Satan, enough. Beat it. Scratch.

[Laura]

All right, man, let's wrap this up.

[Rosenberg]

That's what she said or he said. Wow, that was quite the. She was like. I thought maybe the first time it was a mistake. I'm just laughing, by the way. Five year old. I'm not laughing at you. I'm laughing at the ridiculousness of that story. That was just woof.

[Ebro]

Well, I'm laughing at all of it. I'm laughing at it. It's out of control.

[Laura]

Oh, my God.

[Ebro]

Now this is what's going on out here right now, Rosenberg. Things get messy when you go to hell. It gets mess. See down there.

[Laura]

We went to hell.

[Ebro]

Yo, thanks for the lowdown. Run that intro for the lowdown one more time. That's tough.

[Rosenberg]

That wasn't bad actually, right? Not bad.

[Laura]

Hold on to your speakers. It's time for the Low down.

[Ebro]

With Laura St. Hey, tough. Thank you, Lor Styles. Listen, listen, hopefully you've subscribed to the Patreon. We got a big moment about to happen. Hopefully. You know, our email address is the ELR show at Gmail. Ebro Laura Rosenberg at Gmail so you could get it, get involved with the Friday freedom that's coming around. And then Also the original gurus. Right now's the time.

[Laura]

Let's go.

[Rosenberg]

Still need my proper.

[Laura]

Come on. I need my magic. I need the magic.

[Rosenberg]

I know, but I need an intro. I need. I need to. We got planned.

[Laura]

The original gurus. Gmail.com. the original gurus. Gmail.Com. where the gurus unite to fight for what's right. Ebro, burn the sage.

[Rosenberg]

Need that.

[Ebro]

I wonder how shiny culture feels about me. Zenning.

[Laura]

Hey, Rosenberg. Who's that?

[Rosenberg]

Stolen the Zen. I just had a thought, by the way, as we get into the original gurus, because I keep seeing the. I keep seeing the comments from people that are uncomfortable with the devil or Satan. Is there another word we could use for the same gag that would make those people more comfortable? Because I don't care about it actually being Satan or the devil. It's more like what it's supposed to be. You know what I'm saying?

[Laura]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Rosenberg]

Think about that.

[Laura]

All right, so we're open to suggestions.

[Rosenberg]

Because people are like, please stop doing it, please.

[Laura]

But then I see people. We're like, I love this. It's my favorite part.

[Ebro]

Yeah, but there's two things can be true. A, there's people who are like, yo, stop playing with Satan. And B, people are like, this is so funny and hilarious. Either way, it's provoking an emotion and you guys are feeling something, and we appreciate you.

[Rosenberg]

I just don't want to make. But if it's. I don't want to offend people religiously.

[Ebro]

In the chat, do y' all feel offended? Are you offended?

[Laura]

I don't think so, Rosenberg. But maybe.

[Rosenberg]

Maybe we run a poll. Let's run a poll. All right.

[Laura]

Let's see what the chat says.

[Rosenberg]

All right. The Original Gurus. Gmail.com. send your emails today. All right, gurus. Been a friend of the show way before Ed Sheeran came to the Mickey Figgy place. And now with the new beginning. Congratulations. We're happy to be on this venture with you. Merch sold out. Quick, let's get some more, please. Now to it. Do I get the button or. Nah.

[Laura]

All right.

[Rosenberg]

My wife and I have been together for a long time not to burn it down. We have kids older than 11. It's an interesting way of describing the age of your children, sir. For the past couple of years, we have had moments in the bed that are fire, but the fire is just a Kindle. Now she can't get there mentally. And I can feel it. It's starting to throw me off so much that I don't want to try. The feelings after are a bit much more. A bit much for me. I don't know what that means. I know some guys are going to say, hey, you're getting some. Even if it's once a month. Shut up. But once a month and she's not there is damaging for a giver like myself. Almighty guru Laura, how can I help her get back to being in the moment? Thanks for having the conversation. I hope she hears it and your feedback, and it helps us.

[Laura]

I mean, it's tough, and I feel like anyone who's been married with kids can understand that. It's not always sparse. But I think you should talk to her. I think you should talk to her, tell her how much you love her and how much you want her and just remind her of how important it is to you. I think sometimes, like, when you get caught up, I don't want to say you forget, but it's good to feel wanted. So I just feel like those conversations are needed. Are needed.

[Ebro]

No, we've had enough for you today. We don't need it.

[Rosenberg]

Fine.

[Ebro]

I would say. I would say that. I would say. Yeah, to Laura's point, you need to get in the nooks and crannies. What's really happening here? And. And. And also, I don't think people compartmentalize. Well, let me say another way. Being able to compartmentalize in a relationship or when changes happen in life takes practice, right? So being able to turn on the freak mode the way you used to when you had less distractions takes practice to do it now that you have more distractions or there's been a serious amount of time in between, actually, you know, flipping the switch in the freak mode because y' all haven't practiced it. You haven't practiced that, or the relationships changed, you know, like, it's. It's just different, man. Things change. So you got to talk. You got to talk and you got to get into detail. Not about the kids and not necessarily about the relationship, because this is about you're emailing about.

[Rosenberg]

Whoa, whoa, excuse my language.

[Ebro]

This is about. You're talking about. Wait.

[Rosenberg]

What the hell?

[Ebro]

You see what I'm saying? Like, this isn't about cuddling. This isn't about dates and dinners. And maybe that is what turns. Get y' all going. But what I hear is, here we go. We're supposed to be. You see what I'm saying? And that's not getting right. That means y' all still love each other. Yeah, things are really good, but we ain't boom banging like we used to. And that usually is because you don't have enough time to really get it, you know, get it going.

[Rosenberg]

It's hard, man. It's all hard, man. This is. This is the. But this is the real.

[Laura]

Talking it through helps. And then hopefully you guys. Yo. What? Maybe plan a staycation. I know that helped. One of my friends, they planned a little staycation without the kids, and she was like, it did wonders for my relationship, which I thought was great.

[Ebro]

Sure you don't want to hear? No, we don't. Cuz when I get to, it's godly. There's nothing to do. Nothing to do with saying.

[Rosenberg]

I just have some ideas.

[Ebro]

That's all. I don't want.

[Rosenberg]

All right, so they need to talk. I said we don't have a great answer. This is hard. This is the hard work. This is that whole thing you signed up for. This is where the hard work is at. So y. Good luck and God bless what we're saying.

[Laura]

Yes, Talk it. Try to schedule sometimes just you without the kids, and hopefully you guys can get it on and popping.

[Ebro]

And sometimes you got to start sexting, too.

[Rosenberg]

Start sex idea.

[Ebro]

Start sexting. You know what I mean? Just bite her on the neck. You know what I mean? Shove your face in the ass.

[Laura]

Whatever your thing is, whatever you're thinking.

[Ebro]

Okay.

[Laura]

All right.

[Ebro]

Listen, you know me.

[Rosenberg]

Not everyone needs to start their Tuesday with Ebro revealing all of his favorite activities.

[Laura]

Don't eat that.

[Rosenberg]

We. Some of us are good, bro. Like some. Now, some people are happy about it. I'm sure they're in the chat. They. They tip in the super chat. They'd sign up for the Patreon.

[Ebro]

Oh, God.

[Rosenberg]

I'm not one of them.

[Laura]

Anyway, subscribe. Give us five stars.

[Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Laura]

Remember, you can catch us on.

[Rosenberg]

Wait.

[Ebro]

You don't just walk in the kitchen and just flop it out sometimes. You know what I'm saying?

[Rosenberg]

See you tomorrow. Come on.

[Ebro]

I can't be the only one. So don't call it a podcast.