25.) Hard Work and Effort, MAGA Minaj + New Studio (1/29/26)

Summary

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The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show

Episode 25: Hard Work and Effort, MAGA Minaj + New Studio
Date: January 29, 2026

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Main Theme / Purpose

This episode marks a new era as the Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg team break in their newly independent studio after parting ways with their previous broadcast partnership. They reflect on their creative freedom, address the realities of running their show as entrepreneurs, and offer commentary on recent events—particularly Nicki Minaj’s public support for Donald Trump. The episode brings in signature humor, candid self-questioning, music talk (notably J. Cole’s new release), and behind-the-scenes insights into their show's mechanics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Transition to Independence and New Studio (02:26–07:59, 40:45–41:52)

• Creative Control: Ebro shares frustrations over how previous corporate partners never showcased the full depth of their radio show online, often limiting content to quick clips (“They never got to really feel the...nuances and intricacies of what we did on broadcast radio.” — Ebro, 02:26).
• New Studio: The studio was in the works before leaving their old job. Ebro even offered the setup to the former employer without success.
• Entrepreneurship Reality Check: Their income now depends on actual output and fan support ("This money ain't showing up regardless if you don't deliver for these Patreon people...Don't unsubscribe." — Ebro, 07:26).
• Intensity & Effort: Ebro stresses that their show's success derives not from talent or looks but sheer persistence and work ethic (06:02).
• Listener Community: The crew appreciates the devotion of fans, even when they notice small changes. Laura: “Let’s appreciate how committed they are...let’s appreciate you guys.” (08:44)

2. Adventures Abroad: Rosenberg in Saudi Arabia (10:00–15:14)

• Saudi Impressions: Rosenberg shares experiences from Saudi Arabia, noting the warmth and vibrancy, while recognizing U.S. media’s focus on negative aspects (10:00–11:10).
• Roller Coaster Anecdote: Humorous talk about surviving the world’s fastest, highest ride (“Guys, it was amazing. It was insane. I’m not doing it again.” — Laura, 12:31), and candid talk about post-flight digestive troubles.

3. Nicki Minaj & Donald Trump: The MAGA Minaj Segment (15:51–36:05)

• Nicki Minaj’s Trump Endorsement: The trio criticize Nicki Minaj’s enthusiastic public support and hand-holding photo-op with Trump.
  • “If everything we're seeing from Nicki Minaj was all to get that gold, gold card that she got from Trump...Is there any forgiveness for her?" — Ebro, 15:51
• Speculating Motivations: Ebro floats that Minaj’s actions might be a desperate move to resolve her immigration/citizenship status; Rosenberg and Laura question this, noting her wealth and time to handle such matters.
• Hypocrisy and Double Standards: Laura points out right-wing figures now embrace Nicki despite years of vilifying similar artists (35:05): “They also have to completely lie about their ideals to embrace her.”
• Selling Out & Bullying: They touch on Minaj’s history of “bullying” and say this is karmic (“Chickens coming home to roost...Now we're watching this whole thing in front of us.” — Laura, 19:45)
• Memorable Riffing: The “Put it in Your Mouth” motif (a running joke and musical sting) is repeatedly used to mock Minaj’s sycophancy (21:04, 29:01, throughout).
• Quote on Choices: “These are all choices. And so many people are getting forced to deal with ramifications for choices they’re not able to make...Shame on you, Nicki Minaj. Shame on you.” — Laura, 28:38

4. The Cultural Impact of Celebrity Fandom (25:01–26:59)

• Fandom Blindness: Rosenberg reflects on the modern era where fans are so invested, they defend indefensible moves by their favorite stars and buy into narratives without question.
• Manipulation: Ebro notes, “People are so easily manipulated...there’s something in it for her that is important.”

5. Merch, Patreon, and New Hustle Realities (36:19–40:39)

• DIY Struggles: Amusing exchange about personally fulfilling merch orders, tracking Shopify payments, and needing their own business bank account.
• Transparency: Ebro quizzes the team on when they’ll actually receive their money from sales, revealing the practical, grassroots reality of their new business.

6. Music: J. Cole’s “Birthday Blizzard” & Hip Hop State of the Union (41:52–56:10)

• J. Cole’s Surprise Mixtape: They review Cole’s new project—“Birthday Blizzard 26”—highlighting four tracks and its DJ Clue mixtape homage (42:38–43:44).
  • “You can tell J. Cole is offended by people...the decision he made to step aside from that battle.” — Laura, 45:45
• Is Cole Dissing Drake?: They analyze possible shots at Drake in “Golden Goose Freestyle” (46:18–48:47).
  • Rosenberg recites: “Cut the tough guy image. It is not conducive to breathe and don’t gamble with your life cause the opps is cruising...” (46:35)
• Cole vs. Drake Album Quality: Ebro asserts, “J. Cole is a better album maker than Drake. Full Stop.” (50:29)
• Shouting Out Underrated Talent: Praise for JID, Boz, IDK, and the post-Kendrick/Drake battle revival in lyricism.
• Health of Hip Hop: Laura and Ebro both celebrate the genre’s upswing following rap’s recent “reset moment.”

7. Lowdown with Laura: Industry Legal Drama (57:32–59:28)

• 50 Cent Lawsuit: Coverage of a sex worker suing 50 Cent and Netflix over being misrepresented in a recent documentary (“He said they deliberately edited, distorted, and misrepresented his story as a victim.” — Rosenberg, 57:59)

8. The Alex Preddy Incident & Policing in America (59:28–61:02)

• Police Shooting: Discussion of circulating video allegedly ‘villainizing’ shooting victim Alex Preddy. Ebro: “He was on the ground. He did not pull a weapon out, and you shot him in his back. Shut your ass up.” (60:10)
• Media Framing: Laura and Rosenberg argue that even if Preddy had a gun, he was legally allowed to carry in his state and wasn’t a threat.

9. Show Wrap-Up and Next Steps (56:27–57:32, 61:02–61:29)

• Apologies for Technical Issues (West Coast/Wi-Fi).
• Studio & Content Upgrades: Teasing future stages of their studio and content plans, promising more varied and upgraded offerings (“The studio is...1.0 right now. We got a 2.0 for the studio and a 3.0 for the studio...” — Ebro, 56:32).
• Channel Rebranding Playfully Discussed: “Maybe that’s what—We should change the name of the channel...put Smorg S M O R G instead of S H O W.” — Ebro, 57:15

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ebro on Work Ethic (06:02): “It’s none of that. It’s all been effort. So I figure if I work harder, show up more, have a level of intensity...I’ll succeed.”
• Laura on Minaj’s MAGA Turn (28:38): “There are immigrants in our country under attack right now. They don’t have choices...This is a wealthy person living in a mansion making bad choices and then doubling down with more bad choices. Shame on you, Nicki Minaj.”
• Rosenberg on Fandom (25:01): “Fandom makes people drunk...they don’t care what they do. They don’t care, bro.”
• Ebro on Hip Hop’s Health Post-Battle (55:33): “If you really love hip hop...post battle, I think hip hop has been tremendously healthy.”
• Recurring “Put it in Your Mouth” Theme (21:04, 29:01): Both as a joke on Minaj “going all in” for Trump and as a musical sting throughout.

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• New Studio & Independence: 02:26–07:59, more at 40:45–41:52
• Effort vs. Talent/Ethics of Entrepreneurship: 05:10–07:59
• Fan Appreciation/Energy: 08:44–09:21
• Saudi Arabia/Roller Coaster: 10:00–15:14
• Nicki Minaj & Trump/Loyalty/Selling Out: 15:51–36:05
• Fandom/Manipulation Discussion: 25:01–26:59
• Merch/Entrepreneurship Realities: 36:19–40:39
• J. Cole “Birthday Blizzard,” Hip Hop Analysis: 41:52–56:10
• Industry Lawsuit/”Lowdown”: 57:32–59:28
• Alex Preddy/Policing: 59:28–61:02
• Closing/Show Plans & Wrap: 56:27–57:32, 61:02–61:29

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Tone Highlights

The episode’s tone is candid, irreverent, filled with inside jokes and raw honesty. The crew bounces from deep social critique (especially on Minaj and systemic injustice) to lighthearted storytelling (digestive mishaps, shipping labels) and hip hop nerdery. Consistent banter, playful ribbing, and honest acknowledgment of their new hustler reality underpin every segment.

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For Fans/Latecomers:
This episode is a dynamic blend of culture commentary, industry talk, real-life vulnerability, and rap geekery. It’s essential for understanding the crew’s new chapter and includes sharp takes on Nicki Minaj, the music industry’s state, and the labor behind building independent media in 2026.

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Transcript

[Ebro]

Just don't call it a podcast. Are we live? I. I don't know. I. I have no idea what's going on. The communication on this program is well documented. As frustrating for me.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I like your approach.

[Rosenberg]

We are live.

[Ebro]

You're. You're positive? We are.

[Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Ebro]

Did. Who told you?

[Rosenberg]

A producer.

[Ebro]

Oh, I wonder why.

[Laura Rosenberg]

To make you feel good.

[Ebro]

Do we have buttons? Hit the button, man. I'm already frustrated. That little transition right there already pissed me off.

[Laura Rosenberg]

The first thing you want to do without me in. In at home is call for the button.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You're frustrated.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And then you think the move is call for a button.

[Ebro]

Because I want. I want to get it out of my system right now. Congratulations. You play. Look at that. Look at that.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ebro]

Don't we have. Listen. Ladies and gentlemen, Ebro Laura Rosenberg show. Hopefully you subscribe to the YouTube. I see you guys all in there chatting. You know what I'm saying? And then hopefully you've gotten your. Yourself and the ability to get to the Patreon. If not, that's okay. Maybe one day it'll fit into your budget. But yesterday we put up an episode with Rosenberg. Was really, really losing his mind, man. Like, in a major way. But I'm glad eventually you reeled it back in. I was proud of you. Reel it back in.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It was bo. It was. It was. It was a mix of. I'm gonna let go of real frustration that I have.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And also having fun. And we want to. It's. It's Patreon. Let's get the people going. So it's. It was a mix of. Of it all. But I do feel sometimes these days.

[Ebro]

So you do admit. You do admit. No. You do admit, though, that there was some real in that. In that unraveling. Absolutely. There's real feelings in that unraveling.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. I don't unravel without it. It's never fully.

[Ebro]

It's rooted. The unravel is rooted in realness is what you say for sure.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I mean, I just let go and didn't worry about being recorded. That's just the kind of thing I would have said if it was the three of us not recording, which is why we decided to bleep it, because I was like, I'm not trying to. Even. Even behind the. The paywall. Even in on Patreon among our f. Hardcore Fox. I'm still not trying to let loose like that. It was uncouth, bro.

[Ebro]

In the chat right now, people are talking about the new studio. I'd love if you haven't seen the Patreon or any of the clips from Patreon. We'd love to know how you feel about our new endeavor. This is something, actually, I'll let the audience know that we've been working on long before our departure from our last partnership, our last employment, because there was. I've always had an issue. I've had an issue because I believe that the Internets never really got to hear the. The gravitas of our program. They never got to really feel the. The nuances and intricacies of what we did on broadcast radio. Most of it never made it to the Internet. They would cut up, Congratulations, you played yourself, or they would cut up Laura Styles flashing lights. We get some interviews going out, but they didn't have the staffing or the desire to actually give you guys the full show that we were doing on the air. So a little while ago, I started in on an endeavor to give. You try to get that stuff to the Internet while we were in the midst of a contract renegotiation. And so that studio that you see that we did, that we showed y' all a little piece of. On Patreon, I actually offered that to the former partnership.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Didn't we talk about this on the Patreon?

[Ebro]

Did I talk about the fact that I wanted to shoot our show there and offer them. I don't know if I. Did I talk about that?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. Talked about how that may have played.

[Ebro]

Yes, we got it. Okay. Well, at any rate, so that's. The new studio. Would love to know how you guys feel about it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It looks great, and it's going to look better and sound better the next time you hear it. That was. That was literally us taking our patron. You right over there, buddy. Ebro, what's going on over there, man?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, you're, like breathing into.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo, it's Laura. It sounds like it's like a boxing match, and your man's in the corner between. But. But it's gonna. That was literally taking our, you know, our patrons behind the scenes of the whole thing. So it's gonna look and sound better and shout out to our guy Omar and shout out to Bascom, who have been. They've been working around the clock to. To get that thing, you know, to the right place. I don't know if you know this about Ebro. Ebro is a great leader. He's also an intense leader, you know what I mean? Think about your Greg Popoviches, you know what I mean? Your guys that have a lot of intensity, they're fun, and they may make great jokes and talk about their, you know, political stuff in a way that you admire, but behind closed doors, some f bombs fly, some things happen, and everyone is efforting to make this thing flawless. And like, even yesterday.

[Ebro]

Well, that's a. Well, see, let's stop right there. Let's stop right there. Let's stop right there. That word, effort. Talk about effort, okay? And hard work. Let's talk about those words. Let's talk about the difference between good and great.

[Rosenberg]

Okay?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro]

Everybody. Everybody's definition of that is different, right? Some people, you'll be like, yo, are you making an effort? They'll be like, I'm giving everything I got. It'd be like, are you? But to them. To them. And at the level that they've, you know, done work, that's everything they got. You know, my intensity level and effort level and sense of urgency. Right. Is. Is and work ethic is what's sustained me so far in my life.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's surely not your talent or looks, is what you're saying.

[Ebro]

It's none of that. It's all been effort. So I figure if I work harder, show up more, have a level of intensity, a level of communication that's beyond the rest of the. The majority of the. Of. Of the batch that I'm in the. In the. In the ring with, in the. In the. In the arena with. I'll succeed. I'll succeed.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So you're asking people to. To find a new level of intensity that maybe they've never had before.

[Ebro]

Even trying to hold. I'm trying to hold hands. I'm trying to pull people along. But it. It to. Because, see, now. Now with the Ebro Laura Rosenberg show, this is ours. There's nobody gonna be like, hey, guys, you showing up today? Hey, guys, can you do that Read again for a client. Hey, hey, guys. Hey, guys, can you be on time? Hey, hey, guys. Hey, guys, can you.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Do we have that? At the last show, they didn't even know if we were there or not.

[Ebro]

Well, I mean, we did have it. It was called Laura Styles and he broke.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, right, right. So same people. We have it now.

[Ebro]

Right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But no, now. Now it extends to more people.

[Ebro]

Well, a. It extends to more people. And the money that you were getting paid every two weeks was showing up regardless as long as you delivered the ratings.

[Rosenberg]

That's true.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Right now we have to.

[Ebro]

This money ain't showing up regardless if you don't deliver for these Patreon people. Don't unsubscribe. If Laura don't get these T shirts out the door. Ain't nobody buying them.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, they're already.

[Ebro]

If we're not on time on YouTube and giving people entertainment at 8am, guess what? They're moving on to the next piece of content. They may not come back, especially if they don't hit the subscribe and get a notification when we pop up. So it's a different level of intensity is what I'm saying. It's different, it's a different sense of urgency is what I'm saying. So you can't, you can't treat this thing like the other thing. That's all I'm saying.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And I think, and let me, and let me say this, I think everybody, it will take different time to receive the message and start to execute. And I like where we're at right now. I think we're think we're doing good. And also I'm really feeling the love from the patrons, man. The fact that like Ebro and I had a conversation like a half hour ago about, because I'm on Saudi time, it's 4:12pm so Laura, I was earliest I've been in 20 years. God. So I was chilling and, and we were talking and, and Ebro made a good point because he was like, he was saying, nah. People were like, why were they recorded what's happening with this? And my default is like to get defensive. I go to like, well, we're giving more than any other podcast does.

[Ebro]

We're five days a week.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And Ebro rightfully pointed out, he's like, hey man, if we have people that care, they're that invested that they're noticing slight differences, rather than get annoyed with them, let's appreciate how committed they are. Like. And I was like, wow, you're so right. Like, and I hope they get the sense of commitment back from us. Ebro's up at the absolute ass crack of dawn on the west coast. I had, I had my man from the hotel here come upgrade the WI fi for me to make sure we're good. Got a dedicated line paid for a dedicated line. So we are, we're trying to match your effort, but we appreciate you guys.

[Ebro]

And I was well, yo, thanks for, thanks for giving us your time. People now so hot about the stories.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That were going on before bedtime.

[Ebro]

So look, we got things to get to. Nicki Minaj is at the top of the pal. Bring up that Aelli. Put it in your mouth instrumental. Get that ready for the people we got. We got. When we're doing the dance Today we're doing a different type of guzzle. I mean, it's a different type of gaggle guzzle, you know, that's going on. They left the dance floor. They left the dance floor.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, no. Ebro. Ebro. Nikki said I'm good with the dance floor. I want to go to the champagne room. Let's. Let's go all the way now.

[Ebro]

I need that gold card. Wait, now, listen, and I want to talk about that. We'll. We'll get to that coming up. We also got to get from Rosenberg what this Saudi Arabia experience is really like, right? Because there's a lot of. We hear a lot. There's golf tournaments, there's, you know, com. Big comedy shows, boxing engagements. Saud Arabia is paying a lot of money to have people out there. And obviously, in America, we get the, you know, the civil rights violation marketing of Saudi Arabia and all the things that they do wrong. But I hear from a lot of people that it's beautiful over there, Rosenberg.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, well, listen, I've only. I've only had the experience that I've had so far, right. And all I know is. All I know is I live in the United States of America, all right? I got a lot of thoughts about what's going on in the United States of America.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I don't feel like I'm in the best position to be overly judging any place that I go, but all I can speak to is the people I've been around. And so far, my experience has been just lovely. Yesterday we went to this amusement park. I saw. I saw my photo.

[Ebro]

Wait, what happened? Well, you got on that roller coaster, not Ebro. Talk to me.

[Rosenberg]

What happened? What happened?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I went on Falcons flight.

[Ebro]

Okay?

[Laura Rosenberg]

They gave us.

[Rosenberg]

Sounds crazy.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You know, they gave us the treatment, Laura. They call. I call it the Ebro at Disney World treatment. You know what I mean?

[Rosenberg]

Vip.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So. So we went on this Falcons flight. It is the longest, tallest, fastest in the longest. We said all that. I heard about it. I was. I was a little nervous about it. But the way it's set up, you cannot see very much of it in the park. One spot of it. I don't know how they set it up. Keep in mind, we're in Saudi Arabia, guys. This is 50 minutes. It was in Qadiya city. 50 minutes, an hour, over an hour from. From where I am in Riyadh.

[Ebro]

Ria.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's all desert, mountains around you. So it's a totally different vibe of amusement park than I've ever had before. Guys, I cannot describe to you how effing insane this ride was. I said it like this because after I. After I took it, a couple of our people work with us. My camera guy Louise, my man Brian. All these people are like, they hadn't gone on yet. They're like, should we go?

[Ebro]

We're.

[Laura Rosenberg]

We're kind of scared. Should we go? I said, guys, it was amazing. It was insane. I'm not doing it again. You make your choice. Like, just make your choice.

[Rosenberg]

Right, right, right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It was madness. Ebro goes 155 miles an hour, bro.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, my God.

[Ebro]

Being pulled back, I mean, it's definitely a lot of G force, bro.

[Rosenberg]

I don't know if I said on air, but remember I told you I can't do that anymore. My body is not equipped. I get dizzy. I want to throw up. And I used to be a fanatic. I used to love Six Flags. Any roller coaster, I'm in. Five loop de loops. I'm in.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Didn't matter.

[Rosenberg]

I can't.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I had. So I had the same thought. And let me tell you guys something, because we're all friends, right? It's just us and the fox.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Hopefully my wife's not watching because I don't need her to hear this part of the story. Do you ever fly and have, like, stomach issues while you're flying? Like, let me put it this way. How can I say this delicately in a way that's not repulsive? It feels like after I have a long flight like that I'm kind of. I'm kind of binded up and.

[Ebro]

Oh, man, you couldn't. You couldn't take a dump. You couldn't drop a deuce.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well. Well, no, no. It's more that it's happening slowly throughout the day instead of like, one good, you feel good for the day kind of situation. That makes sense.

[Ebro]

Okay.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So I was scared that this ride was going to be so crazy, that it was all just going to, like. I didn't know what was going to happen. I was scared I was going to.

[Ebro]

So you was going.

[Laura Rosenberg]

To listen with.

[Ebro]

The kids in the car right now, it's children.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, they've heard about it. Guess what? They've cleaned it up for you.

[Rosenberg]

Yes, yes. And they probably felt the same at some point in their lives. Okay.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I was worried I was going to evacuate mid ride. Sitting there with the new day and Rhea Ripley and Dexter Loomis. I thought it was all going to happen.

[Ebro]

Well, listen, you'd be able to come back home, and you'd be like, look, I took a Dump on the Saudi Arabia. Well, I went to Saudi Arabia and I took a dump on the whole thing.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That is not what I would say or what I would do.

[Ebro]

Right, because you're doing the dance. Get that Aelli going. This Saudi Arabia promos got us in. Well, you. You went to the Champagne Room yourself.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You literally asked me, how's it going so far.

[Rosenberg]

Don't listen to.

[Ebro]

No, this is not for me. Stop it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Stop it, Baskin. That is not for me. There is only. That's. That's Ebro. Ebro. Don't clean it up. Only one person gets that. That's your girl who gets it today. That's your friend who gets it today.

[Ebro]

I'm working.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'm out here working. I had a great time, and then we went to a meal at this restaurant. Oh, I just. I love Middle Eastern food, so.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

The hummus, the baba ganoush, the falafel. Stop it.

[Rosenberg]

Really quiet. I haven't heard anything about you on a roller coaster. Did you even get on one?

[Ebro]

Of course. I love roller coasters. I jumped in the front of the roller coaster multiple times. The last. Last time now. No, no last. Which is where Issa, when we went to. What's that called? Universal Studios. You know, where they got the Raptor and they got all the, like, the big roller coaster. Universal Studios. Me and Issa was on them. On them. Take them.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Natalie. I mean, Natalie just. Natalie just texted me, ew in all caps, and then wrote in all caps, poo poo Pete. That's my wife. That's not Becky Lynch. That's my wife.

[Ebro]

Poo poo Pete. Yo, yo, look, we got to get into this Nicki Minaj story. Since we got the Akanelli, put it in your mouth music going. I. I seriously want to ask you guys, serious, serious, if ever. If everything we're seeing from Nicki Minaj was all to get that gold, gold card that she got from Trump. Can we get a picture of it put up, please? If everything was for that and dealing with her immigration status and all of that. Yeah. Is there any. Is there any forgiveness for her? Is she able to double back later and say, hey, guy. Hey, guys, I had to do this.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, well, can I ask you a question?

[Ebro]

Yes.

[Laura Rosenberg]

What's if. If she needed status of some sort and shout out to my wife, who early in the day yesterday, she's hustling for the gold card. I. I was not thinking about.

[Ebro]

Called it. Called it ahead of time.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You know, Queens, you know, I mean, these queens weirdos, they all relate to each other, you know what I mean? On some level she understood, you know what I mean? No, it was a bad look for Queens yesterday. But, but so, so tell me though, if she, why, why would she need her status to change?

[Ebro]

Because she's not a, she's not a citizen.

[Rosenberg]

But you don't think, you, you don't think with all the money that she has, she's a millionaire, right? And she has great lawyers, you don't think that she could have like applied and done it a long time ago?

[Ebro]

I think she could have applied. It says no, no, no. I 1,000% think she could have applied a long time ago and absolutely got it done. I don't know if she's was responsible enough to do so or considered it a priority before that. But I'm just asking the question because I don't know what kind of duress, I don't know what kind of duress she's under. And is this just bad person? I know we all want to sort to, ah, she's a hole. Play the Akanelli music. She's up there guzzling Donald Trump. They done left the dance floor with the champagne room. But I don't know what kind of duress this under. This person's under. I don't know what she's dealing with. I don't, you know, I don't know what bad choices, I don't know what bad choices she's made that's caused her to have to do this. Like the person she is, is married to is on a sex is. Is on a sexual, what's that called? A predator list or her brother being in jail. That's not her fault. That's just her brother in the world that she comes from.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Let me ask you a question. Just being fair with ourselves, do we give that sort of grace to everyone else who does this?

[Ebro]

Well, I mean, we have special.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You have with some of the rappers. You have with a couple of the rappers.

[Ebro]

Yeah, I have.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You said, hey, they got a charge. But generally it's because they did something stupid, by the way. Yeah, generally it's self inflicted. They did something stupid and then they want to get it fixed. So then they, so they double down on doing something stupid by then kissing ass at the same time while our country is being ripped apart right in front of us.

[Ebro]

Well, look, well, look. Yes, it's happening because they're selfish. They did something stupid before. And notoriously we've talked about this. One of the appeals that Donald Trump has to criminals, to people who are in trouble to people. Look, there's so many people he's pardoned, et cetera, et cetera. Some of the appeal to that is the fact that they could pay to get access in ways that they were never able to do before, because that is called corruption, and that is breaking the law. And that's why they weren't able to do it before. But guess what? People like a little corruption and breaking the law that benefits them.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, well, I think everything that you said makes sense, so I respect you for having grace. But Nikki, however, has. Has long. Has long, long been treating people nasty behind the scenes.

[Ebro]

Oh, here we go.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, I'm just facts.

[Ebro]

She's.

[Laura Rosenberg]

She's acted like a nasty person many times. A bully, an outright bully to many people.

[Ebro]

Including you.

[Laura Rosenberg]

About me. Including me. But I'm not talking about me. But. But this is the chickens coming home to roost. Now we're fully getting to watch this whole thing in front of us. Not only did you have to play the game, but Laura, to get up there. Let's watch it. You know what? Basketball.

[Rosenberg]

Let's watch it. Let's watch it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Take a look.

[Rosenberg]

The president's number one fan. And that's not going to change. And the. The hate or what people have to say, it does not affect me at all. It actually motivates me to support him more.

[Ebro]

You wouldn't be bringing it up if it didn't affect. Affect you. Stop.

[Rosenberg]

Not going to let them get away with bullying him and.

[Ebro]

Oh, okay. I can't take it. I can't take it now. I can't take it. I can't take it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Turn it off.

[Ebro]

Turn it off. Make it stop. I can't take it now. I can't take it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I can't take it.

[Ebro]

Just put it in your mouth. Just put it in your mouth. Did the. This is beyond the dance. There's no. That's not dancing music, but that's what I'm handling.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You want to see them hold hands, though? Because at least they held hands after. You know what I mean? That's nice. That shows love.

[Ebro]

Well, I'll be honest. I hadn't listened to the audio.

[Rosenberg]

Oh.

[Ebro]

I had only seen the photos and seen little clips. But hearing her talk sends into you. It's sending me to a bad place because. Oh, I'm not worried about the haters. Yes, you are. That's why you brought it up.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Exactly. Facts, facts.

[Ebro]

And then. And then, by the way. And then some of the stuff you're just saying is so egregious. Yeah, you've become a. It's. It sucks that she decided she wanted to be a MAGA mascot. She wanted to go beyond just taking a photo, beyond just a tweet, beyond just like. I don't know, like, the T. PUSA thing was like, all right, terrible. Super terrible. But it felt like, okay, maybe now you're circling back around. You're circle. You're circling the. The rim again.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's a circle jerk is what you're saying.

[Ebro]

Exactly. You circled the rim and then you circle jerked.

[Rosenberg]

It is Rosenberg. Did you see that? Katie Miller did, like, the. The. That little, like, tick tock challenge with her. The bees in the trap one. And people were, like, celebrating, like, do you guys know what a horrible person Katie Miller is?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo, she's. That is. That is the wife to the architect of someone who, if he could, would turn our country into Nazi Germany. This. This is so bad. Literally, she is the in. The interesting part is she's doing this as a direct way to affect her immigrant status. While immigrants are under attack in our country, the people that Nikki. Her family, the people she grew up around are living in families. Fear and under attack. And it's not that.

[Rosenberg]

Just.

[Laura Rosenberg]

She did the business behind the scenes, used her power. Hey, you could use my songs. No, no. She has gone full on. I want to be your number one fan in public. Yo, run the video. She held his hands. They sat there and held hands. I never seen anything like this before. Ebro, you've never seen this before.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Laura Rosenberg]

All right.

[Rosenberg]

Thank you.

[Ebro]

Thank you.

[Laura Rosenberg]

On behalf of all the entrepreneurs in America, I'd like to thank you, Mr. President, because that's the guy from Shoe. We create 72% of the jobs, companies, 5 to 500 employees, and all we care about is policy. We love policy. Pro business policy.

[Ebro]

Kevin Leary. I can't tell. Put it in your mouth. Put it in your mouth. Put it in your mouth.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo, Akanelli's from Queens, too, man. Shout out to Queens.

[Ebro]

I can't put it in your mouth.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He never.

[Ebro]

Come on, man.

[Rosenberg]

You know, and then she was up there. She had some kind of Q A, you know, talking about Gavin Newsom. You know, she loves to call him scum. She hates Gavin. But I think that has to do with her house being swatted and her quote, unquote, asking for help. And she felt like nobody protected her. But I'm like, I don't understand, Laura.

[Laura Rosenberg]

There has to be more to that story. That's what I think, too. That's what I think she says. It's about.

[Ebro]

But I thought it was also with her husband. I thought it was the husband being on, on the on the list and not registering.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's probably more what it relates to is because they live in California. Yeah, there was. And there was some sort of push to probably get it removed. And Newsom probably said no. Shout out to Kathy Hochul, by the way, who. Our governor who posted the Cardi B meme yesterday.

[Ebro]

Right?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Hilarious. And I got bad news for you. If you hadn't already been sort of surpassed in popularity by Cardi B. This is just gonna make it worse. Cardi B. You could say what you want about her. And I know the Nikki Psychos have a lot of things to say about Cardi. Guess what? She's been on the right side of history. She's been outspoken on the right side of history repeatedly.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, as you look at when you see posts and you know, her fan bases, we already know they're very aggressive, but it's just really interesting to see guys. Like, we've gotten to a point in our lives where it's like, fandom makes people drunk. Like, people are so invested that they don't care who their person is. They don't care what they do. They don't. They don't care, bro. Because there were so many of like, look at her. She, she, she beat the system. She tricked them. She won. Everybody was like, celebrating her. All her fans were celebrating and seeing a guest. And it's just, just, it just shows you how easily manipulated people are.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Like, all it.

[Rosenberg]

Well, no, but for your person to be like, this is what we're doing now. I was just shocked to see how many people Ebro were just very much like, yes. Celebrating it.

[Ebro]

Like, well, no, I, well, I, I do, which is why I brought it up. Listen, I, I. One of the most famous people in the world. Okay, I'm not gonna say any names who is not a U.S. citizen, okay? And I'm not talking about Nicki Minaj. This is about someone else told me, right, that they were concerned about their citizenship status. And I was like, yo, but you're, you're, you. First of all. Second of all, you're not like in any trouble and, or making trouble or even out that outspoken recently. And why are you worried? And they were just like, I'm very scared that this person, Donald Trump, the new president, will try to make an example out of me. And so that's why I brought it up in the narrative that I brought it up in just now around. We don't Know what kind of duress Nicki Minaj is under now? Did she have to go as far and put it. Put the whole thing in her mouth and then, you know, play with the scrotum from the bottom? No.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, God, no.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You don't have to do that.

[Ebro]

That's.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's, that's what someone cares. That extra. No, that extra is when you care.

[Rosenberg]

All right, all right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Shouts to Gianna Michaels. You know what I mean? Give me the shouts to the Legends. You know what I mean? That's Sarah J.

[Ebro]

Work right here. But. But none. I just wanted to kind of put it out there because I hate. I hate the whole thing, whatever. But once again, I was just thinking. I was. Started thinking about my own life and I started thinking about us. Right? Where people assume you're all good. You don't know what kind of duress people are under. Right. Like you don't know what people are dealing with in real life that they have to leverage the tools that they have to get safety or whatever and play the game. I don't know.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'll say this, though. It is unusual. To Laura's point earlier, this has been a very wealthy, connected person for a very long time. She also makes very bad choices.

[Ebro]

Yes, there is a. There is a history.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Torches relationships. She has gone after Jay Z and Roc Nation obsessively.

[Ebro]

She.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo. There's part of me that believes beginning of her Trump turn could be as simple as Cardi went. Kamala, I think I like Trump. She does. She makes it. Bad choices. She has for a long time. And as much as I can have grace and empathy, if she really is in a bad way, are all the ways. She's in a bad way. Her choices, who you chose to be with, these are all choices. These are all choices. And so many people are getting forced to deal with ramifications for choices they're not able to make. There are immigrants in our country under attack right now. They don't have choices. They're. They don't have choices and they're being attacked. This is a wealthy person living in a mansion making bad choices and then doubling down with more bad choices. Shame on you, Nicki Minaj. Shame on you.

[Ebro]

Well, play the. Put it in your mouth.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Your legacy is going to go. The legacy is going to go right down the toilet. So, you know, I know Shawnee wants it for life on the top 50.

[Ebro]

But.

[Laura Rosenberg]

This is her moment for life.

[Ebro]

This is the moment.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yesterday, you holding those purple messed up hands was your moment for life. That's what people Are gonna remember. Great job, Nikki. Yo, it's crazy too, when, when I got into it with her, she was so quick on that race and gender card. I guess now she's the anti woke, though. Now she's the anti. You don't bring up race or gender anymore, right? Because now you're team maga. So don't play that card anymore. You're on the other side.

[Ebro]

No, she. She brings it up. Remember, she was, she was. She was chastising black women for being mean to white women about beauty.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Up there with Erica Kirk. That's right.

[Ebro]

That's right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That is. She is playing. She is doing it, but she's going the other way.

[Ebro]

That's right.

[Rosenberg]

Can I ask you a question about this Trump Gold card? Can a, can the next president just be like, yeah, this is B.S.

[Ebro]

Let'S just have no of it. I have no idea.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I don't remember if these come from an executive order, but I feel, I feel that she can. I feel like those can probably get wiped out now if you already have gained the citizenship. That's an interesting question. I just keep going back to Laura's main thing. If this was such a big thing to you. You've had millions and millions for years. You're telling me the rich people can't jump the line?

[Rosenberg]

Well, well, connections, everything.

[Ebro]

I'm, I'm saying I don't believe with her, with the history of bad decision making that you pointed out and, and just like maybe not paying attention. I do believe that either a people did not think it was a priority or a concern until now. I don't think they, I don't think ironic.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I don't think they felt deportation because the Trump administration is making her go to the Trump administration, save her from deportation and run to.

[Ebro]

Put it in your mouth and put it in your mouth.

[Rosenberg]

No, I don't believe that. I don't believe that.

[Ebro]

No.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I don't know. That would be crazy. And you.

[Ebro]

And, and, and instead of doing the dance, you had to go all the way to full put it in your.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Mouth.

[Ebro]

With some scrotum from the bottom.

[Rosenberg]

Stop, Stop. She's doing the whole tour, I think next week. She's on Katie Miller's podcast. She's doing it all.

[Ebro]

Oh, man.

[Laura Rosenberg]

The craziest thing is she has nothing to say. Like, here's the funniest thing. When she sits and talks with them and they're like, so tell us, why does Donald Trump speak to you so much? She hasn't even done the work to Sound like she means it.

[Ebro]

But. But part of me. Well, no, but part of me thinks that's the hustle. I don't think she has any shame, guys. I think she has zero shame and is willing to do what. I don't. But I don't. She has no shame. All of these people over there have zero shame, by the way. They have none. You can't shame them. You can't make them feel bad for their decisions. They. They are willing to do this. And she's probably looking at a. I can get citizenship. Can I help my brother? And can I help my husband? Oh, my gosh. Donald Trump just made in power, and. Oh, and Donald Trump just made $1.4 billion more money than he's ever made in his entire life as President of the United States, scamming and taking from our tax dollars and. And scamming other governments and using the office to make money. She's like, I'm getting on that gravy train. She has no shame, bro. I can't believe. It's hard for me to believe that after all these years of being the person that you've been in public, that within months, you've made a full 180. It's got. There's something in it for you. There's something in it for you that is important.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, oh, oh. That part I agree on. No question.

[Rosenberg]

I agree. But. But, guys, maybe this is what she always supported. Like, maybe she truly was like, yeah, this is what I believe in. I believe, you know, it could be.

[Laura Rosenberg]

How do you like this? Rolling Stone. Here's a Rolling Stone tweet. Two of the world's most infamous bullies. One, a US President bitten with the imperialist bug. And another, a rap icon known for attacking other celebrities online in her orbit. Joined forces in Washington in a public show of support. Maybe it's just like, minded energy, bro. Yeah, this is her vibe.

[Ebro]

Well, that. Remember, that's what Kanye said. He's putting out an album called Bully now. Remember, he put out. He did his apology tour. Now it's album time within a week. And remember, Kanye was talking about, I like Trump because he's got that dragon energy. Remember all that dragon Energy talk? And I. And I. And I'm still wondering if his apology letter, which, once again, I'll go on the record. I like the apology letter, but it still doesn't explain all of the Trump. Yo, Kanye was at the desk putting it in his mouth first. He beat you to it, Nikki.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He hit it first.

[Ebro]

He hit it first. And how did that work out for Kanye West? Nikki, come on, man. Come on, man.

[Laura Rosenberg]

This is.

[Rosenberg]

It's something.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's bad.

[Ebro]

Listen, I gotta apologize, everybody. My, my. I don't know what's going on my WI fi. Before we started the program, everything was great. And then we started the show and it went south. And it's been south the whole time.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You didn't have any issues early Zero.

[Ebro]

When we did all our tech, it was.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Could you like, leave for a second and turn your WI fi off and turn it back on and come back?

[Ebro]

Let me see.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Difference looks like pure ass. Laura, in the meantime.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Here's my question.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Laura Rosenberg]

The Katie Millers and the Megyn Kelly's and the Sean Hannity's and all the right people and the Erica Kirks.

[Rosenberg]

Mm.

[Laura Rosenberg]

In addition to Nicki Minaj selling out, you know who or fans that she's had and maybe any belief she previously had, if she had any. They also have to completely lie about their ideals to embrace her.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Her. Her music is about filth and sex and graphic nastiness over and over and over again throughout her entire career.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

If she were. If she happened to be a supporter of the left, they would vilify her.

[Rosenberg]

And say, tear her up just like they did Megan and Cardi. Remember?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Exactly. So now they have to pretend that they don't hate everything she stood for previously. Yeah, it's gonna be great.

[Rosenberg]

And it doesn't surprise me. It's just the hypocrisy, bruh. It's next level.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Ebro. Your video is much better. Your loud sniffling and breathing, what it is.

[Rosenberg]

Right?

[Laura Rosenberg]

People can feel your mucus on their screen.

[Ebro]

I like it, I like it, I like it. I want you to feel me. Laura. Do we have a merch update?

[Rosenberg]

Yes. Everything's been. We're almost done shipping. Almost done.

[Laura Rosenberg]

There you go.

[Rosenberg]

Very exciting. We're actually prepping for the next drop. And let me tell you guys something. You better be following our IG account. Ebro, Laura Rosenberg, because we're just going to announce it and then all of a sudden it's gone. It's going to be another limited drop. So follow our IG account because that's where we're going to announce it and drop it and, you know, give you all the links and all the good stuff. Because people were mad at us. They were just like, why? Why only two days? Why. Why was it so fast?

[Ebro]

Well, the other part is, remember, like I said in the beginning of the program.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Program.

[Ebro]

We'Re managing all this ourselves. There's no company behind this, so we don't. We want to, like, manage everyone's expectations. Right? Like, yeah, Laura's with Laura. And, and, and the merch team has been trying to get these T shirts. You said we're still getting shipping done. It's been finishing. It's been a week.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's been a week. Yes. But again, to your point, it's only us doing it, so.

[Ebro]

No, I'm just.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's hand to handy, bro. You know, it's like hand to hand combat.

[Ebro]

Listen, I. I'm aware I got the 400 different charges on my personal credit card for every single shipping label that. That Laura had to print. And I was like, yo, what is going on?

[Rosenberg]

I was like, chill.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, how else are they doing? I guess.

[Ebro]

Well, no, yeah, that was it. She was like, that's the card you gave me. I was like, I didn't know you had to do individual charges for every single label.

[Rosenberg]

What is happening? I'm like, we're gonna upgrade next time right now.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Probably get a business card for our new business.

[Ebro]

Well, but here's the problem. No, that would be great to get a business card. Do you have a bank account?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, no. Are we gonna make a bank account?

[Rosenberg]

We're going to.

[Ebro]

We gotta get. We gotta make money, man. Where's the money coming from?

[Laura Rosenberg]

There's money. There's money.

[Ebro]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Money's been. You see the money, it hasn't hit the any account yet. It's not instantaneous. You know how long it takes for Shopify to pay out?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Six years?

[Ebro]

No, I don't think it's six years, but I was. No, I was legitimately asking. I have no idea. When does Shopify give you the money that people spent? I don't know.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, I think, I think you can take out of your Shopify account quickly. I do. I've used it before. It was. It wasn't a long time.

[Ebro]

I don't have a Shopify account. The merch manager does. She hasn't told me anything.

[Rosenberg]

I'm like, well, you kind of do. Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. You kind of do now.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Think about it.

[Ebro]

I don't know what the hell is what happens on a Shopify account. And by the way, the people who've subscribed to Patreon, where's that money go?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Patreon. Patreon is like, after a month, you can start getting the money out, right?

[Ebro]

So boom. So at least 30 days from now, we'll hopefully be able to get a bank account and Then we'll be able to use that account to pay for more merch and other things. But in the meantime.

[Laura Rosenberg]

In the meantime, it's your credit card. But think about it like this. Thanks to your unraveling on the first Patreon, my unraveling on the second Patreon, we got loyal people who are enjoying the unraveling. And who knows what's gonna happen next week.

[Ebro]

Well, now, now, Laura, you were at the studio yesterday. I'm in LA working on Versus, which, you know, for everybody watching, remember Versus? Mike Will made it versus Hit Boy is Friday from our Apple Music Studios here in LA at 8:00pm Eastern, 5:00 clock Pacific. So I'm out here managing that. Plus, we got Grammy situations. Rosenberg is WWE dancing in Saudi Arabia for the. The Crown Prince and the. And. And Triple H and everybody over there. I'm just so. That's going down.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'm just working. Yo, Ebro. Hey, listen, let's not play the put it in your mouth music for your man Tim Cook at the Melania screening the other day. One of 90. One of 90.

[Ebro]

Oh, no, he's in there. In there. He was doing the dance in there.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But he's been through the movie.

[Ebro]

He's been doing the dance, though. Listen, that's his job. That's the job.

[Laura Rosenberg]

All we can do is all of us are working for people who are doing a dance and we. I just try to shoulder shimmy rather than put on the ballet shoes. That's all we can try to do.

[Ebro]

Well, at least you're not going to the champagne room. You going. Full champagne room.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Thank you. No, I'm. I'm. I'm.

[Rosenberg]

Well, back to the studio. This. Back to the studio.

[Ebro]

Well, and I was gonna get. I was gonna end with that, Laura, which is. You were in the studio yesterday doing some updates. How you feel about the studio so loud.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Turn your mic up, please. You're too low and we're too loud.

[Rosenberg]

All right, all right, all right, all right. But. Yes, yeah, go ahead.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Talk to us.

[Ebro]

Tell us how was the studio? No, I'm asking you. I was the studio.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, my God, it's great. Yesterday we were doing a lot of, like, we're dealing with professional lighting yesterday. And honestly, guys, I'm really happy. Like, I'm really excited. It looks really good. I'm happy with everything. We have a great team. But, like, sitting there now, I sat there and I was like, this is it. This is it.

[Ebro]

So what now? Did the lighting. You and Rosenberg were tinkering with lighting. There were Some issues. I wanted the audience to maybe be able to tune in and see if we got it right. Or maybe it's wrong.

[Rosenberg]

No. Well, I think we got it right this time. Okay, so what you saw on the Patreon is just a sneak peek, guys. It was just a sneak peek. But moving forward, we have professional. No, it looks good. I'm telling you, guys. I'm. I'm very happy with it.

[Ebro]

All right, there you go. Now, Rosenberg, have you listened to this new J. Cole birthday blizzard? What's the feedback? What are you hearing?

[Rosenberg]

Wait, wait, wait. Then let's go, because it's in the rundown.

[Ebro]

Oh, that's in the rundown?

[Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Ebro]

I had no idea.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Any chance we have the Rundown music?

[Rosenberg]

Maybe not.

[Ebro]

Laura got the rundown.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Turn that up.

[Ebro]

Headlines heavy, but we still flashing. We don't slow up or rah one of them. Somebody's prepared. Yes.

[Rosenberg]

I love it. I love it, I love it, I love it. Now, remember, we talked about this, guys. You know, we mentioned it because. Well, Jada kind of mentioned it, but.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, you'll have to turn the beat down or off, though. Sorry, guys.

[Rosenberg]

J. Cole surprised everybody to celebrate his birthday. His 41st birthday, to be exact, with the birthday Blizzard 26. It's on sale now. It's four tracks. It's pay what you want. You can pay a dollar. Pay whatever you want. So that's how he's doing it. Yes.

[Ebro]

And remember, I paid a dollar.

[Rosenberg]

Join Jada podcast. He definitely. Jada kind of said, huh, you know, he's rapping over some locks. Beats. So buddy Pirate respect was in there. And. And Can I live was one of the beats. What else was there? The who Shotcha beat.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yep.

[Rosenberg]

So it was.

[Ebro]

And Victory and Victory, I thought was one of them.

[Rosenberg]

And Victory.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And Victory. But yeah, I. You know, this was the surprise mixtape that people were talking about before the album.

[Ebro]

The.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Also can't forget the. I don't know if you mentioned it. Sorry. The DJ clue of it all.

[Rosenberg]

Yes, I'm sorry.

[Ebro]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

I didn't even mention. Yep.

[Laura Rosenberg]

The Cluminati. That definitely was a nice.

[Rosenberg]

Yep.

[Laura Rosenberg]

A nice touch. And. And shout out to Westside Gun, who does have to get credit. Westside Gun and. And Tyler really brought back the drama, the mixtape vibe.

[Ebro]

Wait a minute, wait a minute. You're not going to give Kendrick a shout out for that? For putting Kid Capri on what you call it?

[Laura Rosenberg]

You know what does. Does that. That does that Predate gun. It probably does the Kid Capri on. That's on Damn.

[Ebro]

That's on. Damn.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo, yo, play the put it in your mouth music. My man. Ebro's taking my spot with Kendrick. That was.

[Ebro]

Wait, what?

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, that was. I was joking. Let's actually play the music. I was joking.

[Ebro]

I literally just pointed out a fact. No, no, no.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It was just a good. I'm.

[Rosenberg]

I'm.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'm jealous that I didn't. I didn't remember that.

[Rosenberg]

It is how they made Ebro. They. The Internet made EO. The Kendrick laser, though. It's hilarious.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, no, that's not. But that wasn't the Internet. That was Ebro. Ebro made himself the Kendrick laser. And then the Internet had good observation, but. But also.

[Ebro]

Wait, how did I become the Kendrick Glazer? Wait, what?

[Rosenberg]

Remember this?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Because you also were. You were the anti Drake and you were the Kendrick Glazer.

[Rosenberg]

Yes, it all came.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You're Jay Glazer, bro.

[Ebro]

Wait, wait. Hey, listen. I. I was. I was watching a battle and I was watching someone lose and I was watching someone else do a better job and put out an amazing album after and then go on and perform at the super bowl and have one of the most historic hip hop moments ever. I was just covering it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

The only one. Okay. The only thing that I will call you a Glazer on, and I say this as the original Kendrick Glazer, is the play my Kendrick music. The amount of gnx.

[Ebro]

Oh, yeah, no, I was trolling. I was trolling. I was trolling. But by the way, by the way, if we was on right now, the way that GNX still rings off in my. On my playlist. Yo, play that Kendrick Lamar.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, but. Right, hold on. But right now we're talking J. Cole, and the clue part is just a dope, like, addition to it, but Cole, he.

[Ebro]

He.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He spitting on all four of these men. He.

[Ebro]

And he's.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You could tell he's got a battery in his back. You could tell J. Cole is offended by people who have had things to say about him and the decision he made to step aside from that battle.

[Ebro]

But also taking accountability also, you know, saying, hey, you know, I had to. I had to make some decisions. And even to the point where he's like, look, I like being an underdog. You know what I'm saying? I like the fact that I took a. I took a step off and had to start back at the bottom. And I'm still climbing past some of you ca now. And I like being doubted. Now there. There was talk of where there was talk on. I think it's Golden Goose.

[Rosenberg]

The Golden Goose freestyle.

[Ebro]

Yeah, the Golden Goose freestyle where he says something to the effect of the tough guy image. And I saw people saying, yo, is he talking about Drake? Is he, you know, etc. Etc. And I don't know if that's been confirmed or denied and I don't know if it ever will be.

[Rosenberg]

I think the Internet assumes it's Drake. So I saw that. I saw that. Here's a quote. A lot of rappers make dough then be prone to lose it for crumbs dumbish. They sold their soul to Lucian N words cheating and I won't excuse it. And if I said. If I said it then that I wrote it stupid. If the streams you say you win in then why is your tour losing? When you're math ain't math then of course you're juicing. That mean the bots are boosting. Cut the tough guy image. It. It is not conducive to breathe and don't gamble with your life. Cause the opps is cruising. Word to Mike Vick, your dog might get ish for losing. People are saying that that's towards Drake.

[Ebro]

But also it could also be at Kendrick, couldn't it? But the dog's line.

[Laura Rosenberg]

The dog's line, the tough guy image, the tour losing.

[Rosenberg]

The tour losing was because, remember the Australia tour or the New Zealand leg that he had to cancel. But was it because of poor ticket sales? I don't think so.

[Laura Rosenberg]

To say Drake's tour, if that's about Drake saying his tour wasn't working, does seem like a reach, right? But those other line. But those other lines from Lucian on all the way toward to the end with the dogs, they do feel like they're going at Drake. And I'll say this. None of us have any idea what happened and what transpired between them. But from what I've been able to gauge about how Drake and OVO move, anything that's not with them feels against them. And I could see a world in which they were not happy with what happened with J. Cole. And J. Cole, the kind of man he is. I could see him trying to extend a hand, have a conversation. Maybe it didn't go good, maybe things didn't. Maybe things went left. But that definitely, that. That ain't about Kendrick. It's definitely not about Kendrick.

[Rosenberg]

And then, you know, people. People criticize Drake for the tough guy image when, you know he's not so there, you know, So I. I thought that was interesting.

[Ebro]

Well, look, if to your point, Rosenberg, any. Any room for confusion here? Is not going to bode well with people not thinking this is about Drake. Anything left up for interpretation that's going in this way is. Is. It must have been intended because J. Cole's a very calculated individual.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Ebro]

Now, I will say this. I love the tape. I love the. The Birthday Blizzard. I'm glad it happened. Happen. I. I paid my dollar to get it. I bought some vinyl on the falloff.com. but what. What it also helped me do is I went. It was Cole's birthday the other day, so I went into that cold discography because there's a lot of stuff I like in there. Yep. There's a record on KOD called 1985. And then.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro]

And in parentheses and in parentheses it says the intro to the Fall off is the name of that record, which is. I love that record. Obviously, False Prophets is another one. I think people should go back and listen to. With Kanye back on the scene and, you know, Wale having such a great run right now. Another great record. And I say all of this to say that while these freestyles are phenomenal and I love them, it makes me more excited for the falloff project because jcole albums have been fired. The last. The last three, four albums have all been fire. And I think J. Cole is a better album maker. He's a better album maker than Drake. Full Stop.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, what? That's not even.

[Ebro]

But I didn't. I didn't know that that was. I didn't know, like. I don't know if people are having that convo. J. Cole's albums, the themes, the song selection over the last several albums have been top tier.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He guys. I was not the biggest Cole guy. I was very excited at the beginning, you know, did stuff with him on Real Late and sobs and all that stuff. And then I kind of faded for a couple of the early albums. I found him a little boring man from Forest Hills Drive On.

[Ebro]

That's me.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, me too. He's been on the up and up ever since. Just every album I like more.

[Ebro]

And like Born Center. There's things I absolutely like on Born center, but then there's things I don't like. Onboard center.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And he's another one. We had the Jay Z conversation.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Never. I never liked J. Cole chasing singles. When he. When he would go for the single, it would be one I didn't like.

[Rosenberg]

Wait, what's the single that you hated?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Which one was TLC joint. The TLC joint.

[Ebro]

What was that? That was Crooked Smile.

[Rosenberg]

Hey, yeah. Crooked Smile. Crooked Smile.

[Ebro]

Crooked Smile is a hit, though. That's a hit.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's a hit. No, they worked. It just never, never worked.

[Ebro]

I never like, I never like.

[Laura Rosenberg]

What was it?

[Ebro]

Workout. Oh, I hated who that. Oh, it's his. I was like his first seg. I was like, why?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I was. I was fine with who that.

[Ebro]

Nah, I wasn't with that.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Like. Oh, you didn't like the Workout? I, I, I didn't like that joint either.

[Ebro]

No, I didn't like Workout. That wasn't for me. But, man, he's f all that. F all that. It's not how you start, it's how you finish.

[Laura Rosenberg]

N. It's it's he. I think you can make the case. He is the most consistently evolving rap artist ever.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And.

[Ebro]

And running a great business, seemingly efficient business with Merchant touring. Right. Even. Even he shouts out this guy. His guy Jid. We love Jid. Another artist who's Love J. Phenomenal. Phenomenal album just came out and a phenomenal rapper like it might get. I think he's nominated for a Grammy, isn't he?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I think is the album for Best Rap album, I think.

[Ebro]

Isn't Jit in Best Rap album for a Grammy, am I. Or I'm making that up or I wish that happened.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, let me look. I don't know if you're making that up, Jid. Grammy nominations shout out to Boz, by the way, while we're at it as well.

[Ebro]

Oh, man. Boss. My God, love.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, he's up. He's up for rap album.

[Ebro]

You know what I mean?

[Rosenberg]

Yes, yes, he is. And best Melodic Rap Performance.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, man, real quick, just real quick. While we were going down this path of actually talking music, which I'm enjoying. Yo, man, have Ebro. Have you listened to the IDK Project?

[Ebro]

Love the IDK Project.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo, IDK might be one of the most criminally slept on artists in hip hop.

[Ebro]

Yeah, that's a fact. That's fair and a fact. And the way he works, the way the deals he's gotten done, the way he works, the, the collaborations. All of it. All of it. All of it. There's so much.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He's got a. So he has a Fire record. We'll play it on the next Patreon. He has a record produced by K Tronada.

[Ebro]

No, it's crazy. No, it's crazy.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, wait, I gotta hear this.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He has RZA on the project. He has Pusha T on the project. It's Yo, Shout out to Conductor Williams, mf Doom.

[Ebro]

I was gonna say doom.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's a Conductor MF Doom record IDK does incredible Ish. And I've always felt like Ebro. There's a lot of people who are kind of like, if they felt like they lost Kanye to his bullish, I felt like IDK could have filled a void for you in your life musically. Energy. Like there is. There's a Kanye influence in IDK that you can hear, and I mean that from the best version of Kanye that you can hear in his music. But he is just. He's the man, bro. Shouts to IDK and that's another DJ joint. That one's who Kid.

[Ebro]

Oh, wow. Yeah, that's right. It is who Kid. You know, shout out to who Kid. Getting his getting is getting his. His props too, with this. This moment in hip hop history. Listen, 25, 2025 and 2026 might turn out to be the turn that we needed to see to get back to some real MCing, and MCs, people who are really out here rapping, using their MC skills, really getting to these bars, getting their flowers. Because I think people saw, especially people who do this well, they're seeing the celebration of Wale, they're seeing the celebration of the clips. They saw what happened with Kendrick and how much the audience wanted to delve deep into Kendrick's lyrics and. And understand what he was doing during the battle. Like, there's been real MC hip hop moments since. Since the battle. Let's be honest, there was a major reset during that battle. As much as, you know, people may have not liked how it turned out, you know, for whatever. But if you really love this hip hop, hip hop thing and you're not just a fan of an artist, but you're a fan of hip hop.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro]

Post battle, I think hip hop has been tremendously healthy.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's bounced back. There was a moment there where it was worrisome, and I was like, oh, is this going to have a negative, A negative ramification. But if you really look up where we're at now, and maybe the Grammys are, you know, not the typical place that you would look to see the health of hip hop. I certainly wouldn't rely on the Grammys. However, when you look at Let God Sort them out, Chroma Copia Dochi has become a star. Jids only become a bigger star. It's not. It's a pretty good time, man. So it's a lot of good stuff.

[Ebro]

Now, before we wrap today, because I think we. We got a wrap. I gotta let everybody know. Yes. We're on the road. Sorry, about the technical issues today, I want to apologize. I thought I was good on my side. Clearly I wasn't. But. But yeah, the video. I mean, but if. The video. The video earlier, though.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You already said earlier, though. It was never about your looks or town. It's right now.

[Ebro]

There you go. There you go. But yes, so more merch on the way. Subscribe to the Patreon if you can please get your notifications popping so you know when this pops up. We got plans. No, we got more plans. The studio. The studio is. Is 1.0 right now. We got a 2.0 for the studio and a 3.0 for the studio. So stay locked for that. And then we got a 2.0 and a 3.0 for content ideas that are going to funnel through this channel. So it won't just be 8am you'll be getting some 9am content and then you might even be getting some Friday night content. You might even be getting some other things that are just like, you know, it might just fire Hip hop ish.

[Laura Rosenberg]

An Ebro. Laura Rosenberg. Smorg of just great.

[Ebro]

What is. Well, maybe that's what. We should change the name of the channel because right there in the logo, you could just put Smorg S M O R G instead of S H.

[Laura Rosenberg]

O W. Now we're having a conversation.

[Ebro]

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? And. And Laura, thank you for the rundown. Do you have anything for the lowdown?

[Rosenberg]

Okay, I do. Really quickly. Hit me.

[Ebro]

Wait, wait, hold up. We need the intro.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, there's no devil today.

[Rosenberg]

Hold on to your speakers. It's time for the Low down with Laura Sty. Oh, guys, the sex workers are coming for 50 Cent.

[Ebro]

Oh, this is down dirty. Low down dirty.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, man. So a man by the name of Clayton Howard, a sex worker, he's claiming that his story was misrepresenting a misrepresented in the Sean Combs the Reckoning documentary. He is suing 50 Cent at Netflix and he basically says that he feels that he was edited incorrectly. He said that they deliberately edited, distorted, and misrepresented, you know, his story as a victim. And he says that he believes that they suppressed testimony which points the finger at Cassie as being one of the people who sex trafficked him.

[Ebro]

Yeah. Damn.

[Rosenberg]

So that's. Yeah, he's not happy about that. So he's coming after 50 and he's coming after Netflix.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, I can't say this is a shock, can we?

[Ebro]

Not at all.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That there was. There was going to Be things like this in the after, in the aftermath.

[Ebro]

Well, look, if you want to dance with the devil, you want to get down in the dirt, the mud, the mire. I know, I know. I don't need to talk to Satan today. But if you want to get out in the mud yesterday, if you're going to get down in the lowdown, it's going to get low down. You know what I'm saying? Low down. And that's what this is, man.

[Rosenberg]

That's it, guys. So we'll keep you posted as that lawsuit, you know, let's see if it continues.

[Ebro]

Have you. Laura, have you seen the news circulating about the video of Alex Preddy kicking the light off the back of a ICE vehicle?

[Rosenberg]

No.

[Ebro]

Prior to the shooting?

[Rosenberg]

No. I just saw. Somebody sent it in our chat.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But I saw it.

[Ebro]

I saw it yesterday. I saw it yesterday. And my first thought was, good, they're.

[Rosenberg]

Gonna do everything they can to villainize this man.

[Ebro]

Good. But that still doesn't excuse you. That still doesn't. You shot the man in the back while he was on the ground so you could circulate whatever videos you want to circulate. He kicked the car light. He did whatever. He was on the ground. He did not pull a weapon out, and you shot him in his back. Shut your ass up.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Know what I saw? I see you trying. They thought that would be a mic drop video to show.

[Rosenberg]

Right?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Video was. What I saw in that video was another example of him being out, engaging. Had his gun legally, and nothing happened.

[Ebro]

He was gun.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He had his gun with him. Again. He moves around with his gun. That's what he's allowed to do. I thought you guys liked that.

[Rosenberg]

And he wasn't allowed to do it, right? He wasn't pointing it at people like that other crazy ass couple with whoever they were. Remember? They were just out pointing the gun.

[Ebro]

Yeah, we've seen a lot. I mean, what's your man named? Rittenhouse. Rittenhouser. Written, Written. Written, writtenness. Whatever his name is.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You didn't burn him by accident.

[Ebro]

I did say Rittenberg.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Definitely not there.

[Ebro]

He's a house. He's written Houser.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Why are you adding an ER to it? What are you doing, bro?

[Rosenberg]

Get it right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's a house. There's no Jew in that name.

[Ebro]

What the.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Come on.

[Ebro]

Well, this could be German. God, Burke. Could be German.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It could, bro.

[Rosenberg]

All right. All right. It ain't burn. Well, thank you guys so much for rocking with us. We love you.

[Ebro]

B U R G Not B E.

[Laura Rosenberg]

R G I'm not playing with the Urgs. Big difference, folks.

[Ebro]

The Urgs.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Outro music. Bascom, you got it, don't you? I think we do.

[Ebro]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Turn your notifications on. Subscribe to the Patreon. We'll be in the stew next Monday, so lock in. Just don't call it a podcast.