26.) Friday Freedom, Nicki at the White House + Family Matters (1/30/26)

Summary

The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show

Episode 26: Friday Freedom, Nicki at the White House + Family Matters
Date: January 30, 2026
Hosts: Ebro Darden, Laura Styles, Peter Rosenberg

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Episode Overview

This episode, the crew officially welcomes listeners to their new show setup, blending old-school banter with interactive fan segments. Key themes include social media buzz around Nicki Minaj’s White House visit, frustrations over current politics (notably voting issues in Georgia), candid “Family Matters” talk, behind-the-scenes stories about the new studio (the “stew”), discussion on Patreon content, family/life updates, and the ever-popular “Friday Freedom” advice and mailbag.

The tone is classic Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg: energetic, irreverent, candid, and sprinkled with comical nostalgia and hard-hitting real talk.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Nicki Minaj at the White House (00:35–01:43)

• Rosenberg is fixated on recent social posts showing Nicki Minaj “wandering around the Oval Office.”
• They riff on her bold outfit (“Why does she look like an ostrich?” – Rosenberg, 00:51), with Ebro joking about bringing back the term “badonka dunk.”
• Laura rebuffs: “Can you just close it? Stop looking at it. I don't want to see it.” (01:30)
• Ebro uses this to frame a larger point about public figures and shifting alliances: “Don’t look away, guys...if you look away, you'll potentially forget when she tries to do the next 180 and come back home.” (01:43)

2. Political & Social Commentary: Fulton County, Georgia (01:43–03:12)

• Ebro summarizes controversy over the FBI seizing ballots, tying it to broader voter intimidation and manipulation in Black-majority districts.
  • “They are trying to steal the election in Georgia...causing chaos in Fulton County.” (02:09–02:23)
• Laura expands on voter data and abuses of power, connecting to similar issues in Minneapolis.
• The hosts vent about the changing landscape of American elections and social threats.

3. Show Structure & Consistency (03:20–04:25)

• The crew jests about their occasional lack of structure (“We gotta get some consistency going on here. This is lack of effort.” – Ebro, 03:37).
• Jokes fly about segments not always happening (“We never do the Rundown on Fridays, and we do the Gurus every day. Except yesterday…” – Rosenberg, 03:44)
• Discussion about revitalizing classic show elements and maintaining momentum.

4. Guest Ideas & Studio Stories (04:25–06:34)

• Shout out to Killer Mike for supporting their comeback.
• Playful speculation on potential star guests and the realistic limits of their pull.
• Travis Scott is mentioned as someone who “got too big” to return but used to "take over the show" (“We celebrated Travis on his ascension, and now nothing.” – Ebro, 05:28).

5. Interactive Content & Patreon Polling (06:26–09:41)

• Ideas for Patreon-exclusive live music events (“Friday Night Flavors”) and whether fans would actually tune in.
  • “If you gave them Friday night or Saturday night live music content—is that fuego or fugazi?” (Ebro, 07:06)
• Logistics, legalities, and monetization of DJ sets and performances are debated.
• The crew focuses on providing real value for their $10/month subscribers (“People have to think about that. Like, am I going to commit to this?” – Ebro, 09:41).

6. DJ Friends & Studio Capabilities (09:41–11:17)

• Laura and Ebro go back and forth about which DJ legends they can bring in for guest appearances. (“We're talking about some legends…” – Laura, 10:37)
• Quick-witted production drop leads to more inside jokes around Juanito and show sound effects.

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Highlight Segment: Family Matters (11:22–14:45)

Nostalgia and Childhood Job Stories (12:03–16:19)

• The crew launches into the “Family Matters” theme song (11:29–11:57), sparking a spirited debate on ‘90s TGIF TV.
• They swap first-job stories, from Ebro at a mall to Laura and her family’s dry cleaning business, and Rosenberg’s early work at a synagogue and record label:
  • “My grandmother owned a dry cleaners…I was working the front desk at the dry cleaners.” — Ebro, 15:19)
  • “But they had me in the office, doing Xerox copies, just helping out…” — Rosenberg, 14:41)

Parenting Real Talk (16:28–36:03)

• Nostalgic chat about cassette tapes, Michael Jackson’s “Thriller,” and how tastes evolve.
• Ebro doubles down: “F these damn kids. They don’t have no taste, no context…” (17:15)
• Transition to updates on Rosenberg’s apartment nightmare, challenges of moving with a young family, and NYC landlord issues.
  • “It's something else every day…so slippery…you're worried you're gonna die.” — Rosenberg on his new building’s lobby, 17:57)
• Laura relates, discussing relationship “fights about stuff” (e.g., sneakers and clutter), noting how kids force you to downsize.
• Heartfelt discussion of balancing busy work schedules, parenting, and emotional connection with kids.
  • “I wish we had more time also…Let’s figure this out. Let’s set aside time.” — Ebro on talks with his daughter Issa, 34:44

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Nicki Minaj at the White House:
  • “What is going on with her outfit? Why does she look like an ostrich?” — Rosenberg (00:51)
• Political Hot Take:
  • “Don’t look away, guys…Because if you look away, you'll potentially forget when she tries to do the next 180 and come back home.” — Ebro (01:43)
• On Parenting:
  • “F these damn kids. They don’t have no taste, no context…” — Ebro (17:15)
• Reflections on Co-Parenting and Scheduling:
  • “You gotta check that schedule, man. If your calendar ain't tight with these kids…” — Ebro (36:05)
• New Life/Apartment Struggles:
  • “We are all at the mercy of people with a lot of money who are going to do what they're going to do.” — Rosenberg (48:16)

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Friday Freedom: Advice, Listener Mails, and Real Talk

Listener Interactions & Advice (37:27–53:07)

• Ozzy from Texas thanks the show for continuity post-radio firings (38:11), nudges for affordable jingle collaborations (38:52), and does a $10 “Patreon dance.”
• Freddie Mac requests more “Washed Wednesdays” and stories about aging/parenting mishaps (40:27).
  • “Episodes around the time Peter hurt himself trying to run up the stairs had me dying, laughing hysterically.” — Freddie Mac (40:20)
• Giovanni from Vegas expresses appreciation for the group’s resilience but jests about the "old plantation" and new studio upgrades (44:54).

On Hard Conversations & Sensitive Topics (53:10–62:10)

• The show reads a listener email critiquing Rosenberg’s comments on Islamic extremism. In response, Rosenberg affirms his commitment to nuanced talk about religion, condemns anti-Muslim stereotypes, and urges for empathetic understanding.
  • “The only reason I said something like about Muslim extremists or terrorism was because we were talking about how there's terrible extremism everywhere.” — Rosenberg (56:33)
  • “You're not smelling yourself, Muhammad...We all got some ish, man. At the end of the day, we all got some ish.” — Ebro (62:07)

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Gurus Segment (62:30–70:38)

• Email from a single mom in Texas upset that a store clerk told her to “control your children.” The hosts balance validating her feelings with tough love:
  • “It would feel terrible … Sounds like what you need to do is control them damn kids.” — Rosenberg (65:37)
  • Ebro and Laura give practical advice for wrangling active twins, highlighting that sometimes you just have “wild” kids and need to adapt shopping/eating out plans accordingly.

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Nicki Minaj at the White House: 00:35–01:43
• Fulton County, GA Voting Issues: 01:43–03:12
• Family Matters Theme & TGIF Nostalgia: 11:22–14:45
• First Jobs Stories: 14:45–16:19
• Parenting Discussion (Ebro & Issa): 31:00–36:03
• Friday Freedom Listener Segment: 37:27–53:07
• Debate on Religious Extremism & Stereotypes: 53:10–62:10
• Gurus Parenting Advice: 62:30–70:38

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Final Thoughts / Episode Vibe

• The show blends laughs, family stories, music industry tales, and unfiltered social commentary.
• The chemistry is playful and rooted in years of genuine friendship, with transparent disagreements and ribbing.
• They consistently encourage listener participation (especially Patreon subscribers) and reflect on community support post-radio transition.
• The episode closes with hope for the “new stew” and invites everyone to future events, merch drops, and live content.

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Transcript

[Ebro Darden]

Just don't call it a podcast. Ebola Rosenberg.

[Rosenberg]

We're on. Yo.

[Ebro Darden]

Yesterday. Yesterday we went live and we were on for, like, I don't know, a couple of seconds. And I was going, are we live? Are we live? I got correspondence via text from people who support our show that are just family members faster than I got communication from.

[Rosenberg]

Okay, why are you doing this?

[Laura Styles]

Come on.

[Rosenberg]

Why are you starting, like, every day? You're going to start this way?

[Ebro Darden]

It's bad, right? I shouldn't do it.

[Rosenberg]

Give him a break. Some days I think people deserve a moment. I'm still sitting here reeling.

[Ebro Darden]

Deserve is a stretch for me, but go ahead.

[Rosenberg]

I'm still reeling from posts popping up on my. My Twitter page of Nikki wandering around the Oval Office meeting all these.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, I saw that. I saw that.

[Rosenberg]

And I just. Laura, what is going on with her outfit? What the hell? Why does she look like an ostrich? What is happening?

[Ebro Darden]

Well, I think she wore a fur. She wore. She wore a fur coat. And because of her badonka dunk, the fur coat, you know, ends up looking a little protruded, like an ostrich.

[Rosenberg]

It's not. It doesn't look right.

[Ebro Darden]

I just wanted to say badonka dunk, because that hasn't been said in a good 20, 25 years.

[Rosenberg]

You bring it back.

[Ebro Darden]

Not a badonka dunk. Why don't they say badonka dunk anymore?

[Rosenberg]

No. Her in the white hat with the. With the fruit.

[Laura Styles]

Can you just close it? Stop looking at it. Just stop looking at it. I know. My friend just sent me, like, another of her with Katie Miller. I was like, I don't want to see it. I don't want to see it.

[Rosenberg]

I can't.

[Laura Styles]

I don't want to see it.

[Ebro Darden]

Don't look away, guys. Don't look away. Because if you look away, you'll potentially forget when she tries to do the next 180 and come back home. Because where do you go from here? Where do you go from here? At the. I guarantee whatever Trump's trying to do with the midterms and stop voting. And they were down in Georgia, like, stealing ballots or something. Yesterday, they sent the FBI into county Georgia. You saw that?

[Laura Styles]

I saw that.

[Ebro Darden]

Was that two days ago?

[Rosenberg]

What happened?

[Ebro Darden]

The FBI pulled up in Fulton County, Georgia, and started stealing ballots from, like, I think it was the 2024 election or something, claiming that, I don't know, something was going on where they were down there, and the woman was basically saying they are trying to steal the election in Georgia. They are trying to cause some sort of chaos in Fulton county, which is a black, predominantly black county, which ultimately usually decides where the state of Georgia might go.

[Laura Styles]

She was basically breaking it down. Rosenberg. On, like, how illegal it is and why. And she was just ringing the alarm. Y' all should be scared. This is what they're doing. They're abusing their power, and they're trying to take your voter. Voter data.

[Rosenberg]

Well, yeah, I mean. I mean, we know that. That's. Isn't. Laura, isn't that what you were saying the other day about what they've been doing in Minneapolis, saying hand overall, that's what they want?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, they want the vote. They want the voter information. And we'll get ICE out of your. Out of your area.

[Rosenberg]

This is.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Crazy Nikki's new friends. You got some interesting friends, bro.

[Ebro Darden]

Melissa.

[Rosenberg]

Man.

[Laura Styles]

Guys.

[Ebro Darden]

Ladies and gentlemen.

[Rosenberg]

Friday. I don't want to do it.

[Ebro Darden]

We have. Well, we got family matters. We got Friday freedom. You know, we'll still get to the rundown. Maybe there. Maybe Lars got something planned in the lowdown.

[Rosenberg]

No, we don't do Rundown Fridays.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, yesterday we didn't even do the Gurus.

[Rosenberg]

Well, that's. That's. We will today.

[Ebro Darden]

We got to get some consistency going on here. This is lack of effort.

[Laura Styles]

No, even.

[Rosenberg]

Forget.

[Laura Styles]

You're the one forgetting.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm not blaming y'.

[Rosenberg]

All.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm blaming us. I'm not. It wasn't an accusation to you.

[Rosenberg]

We're hearing your blame for all of us, and we're just turning around and putting it squarely on you instead. Do you see what's happening here? It's called being bad teammates. We. We do. We never do the Rundown on Fridays, and we do the Gurus every day. Except yesterday, we had so much to do that after an hour, you were like, hey, we got to skip the Gurus. It's rare. And the radio show, it's very rare to skip the Gurus, too. But every.

[Ebro Darden]

It's happened. It's happened. It's happened. What radio show are you referencing? I don't remember. Oh, I've moved on. I've moved on. I. I don't remember what you're talking about. It's only. I like, only hearing forward now, baby.

[Rosenberg]

It's all right now in front of us.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, I got a shout. Shout out to Killer Mike, who I saw out here in Los Angeles, and he was at. Was staying at the same hotel, and he was very, very. He was giving us our flowers. Oh, really? He was like, yo, man, the way you guys just came back shooting the way you guys just landed on your feet, you know, I mean, just square. Like, man, phenomenal. I was like, yo, man, thanks, bro.

[Rosenberg]

Is he coming on the show?

[Ebro Darden]

I didn't ask, but I'm assuming he would. I don't see why he wouldn't. Yeah, I don't see why he would. And he's got a new project he's working on probably, and I'm sure we'll see him. But we are working on guests, and we are lining up guests for the new stew. A lot of great feedback on the new stew.

[Rosenberg]

Yes, a guest poll would be. That's interesting. Who would you want to see realistically? Like, don't. Don't write Beyonce. Okay.

[Laura Styles]

Right. Or Jason's not coming.

[Ebro Darden]

Or Rihanna or Drake or Rihanna. Or Travis Scott or.

[Rosenberg]

Travis. You don't think would ever come on the show yet.

[Ebro Darden]

Travis ain't coming back.

[Laura Styles]

He came once.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no. Travis came multiple times. Took over the show. We opened up the whole show for him and, like, just let him do whatever. We celebrated Travis on his. On his ascension, and now nothing.

[Rosenberg]

Well, you just think because he's gotten too big. Not because he doesn't. Not because he dislikes us.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, I just think he's too big.

[Rosenberg]

And what if I said Michael Rubin was here? If Michael Rubin was here, would he come?

[Ebro Darden]

If we were actually having a. What's it called? Fanatics Party after party at our studio.

[Rosenberg]

He's there.

[Ebro Darden]

Travis Scott's there. Matter of fact. Yo, Michael Ruben, we got a new stew we could have. Like, we could. How many people you think we could fit in the new stew? 10.

[Rosenberg]

You mean to be on the air or to.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no. Just hanging out. Just hanging out.

[Rosenberg]

Oh. Oh, no. Hang out. 30.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, you think 30 people in it.

[Laura Styles]

Chill, chill. Maybe we'll go to 2020.

[Rosenberg]

So everyone.

[Laura Styles]

Could be safe and comfortable. 2020.

[Ebro Darden]

Speaking of polls, content idea for Patreon. Should we talk about that here, or is that something we should talk about? Other places?

[Rosenberg]

I think content idea for no, have it.

[Ebro Darden]

Do.

[Rosenberg]

Go ahead. It's Friday. Go ahead.

[Ebro Darden]

Friday night, Flavors comes back.

[Rosenberg]

Yo, that's not our show. You really want Pete Rock to hate you, huh?

[Laura Styles]

Oh, my God.

[Rosenberg]

That was Future Flavors.

[Ebro Darden]

Sorry, that was Future Flavors. Future Flavors. No, I'm trolling. I'm trolling. Nah. But in that vein, though, if you're. If you. If I'm a Patreon subscriber and we gave them Friday night or Saturday night live music content, is that fuego or fugazi?

[Laura Styles]

I think it might be fun. I'm thinking it might be cool. I just wonder how many people will be tuning in on a Saturday night. Because people are out on Friday night.

[Ebro Darden]

Are they?

[Rosenberg]

I mean, see, that's. There's that part too. Laura, are they. No, no. Ebro. She's out.

[Laura Styles]

People are out.

[Ebro Darden]

Our audience is 30 plus. They might be out, but I'm talking about like 8 o'. Clock.

[Laura Styles]

Okay, okay.

[Ebro Darden]

7 o'.

[Laura Styles]

Clock.

[Ebro Darden]

8 o'. Clock. You know what I mean? Like a nice Friday night. You're looking for something to do. Boom, flip on the Patreon. We're live. Or something. Something is live. Friday night, Saturday night.

[Rosenberg]

But do you mean like a mix show?

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know what I mean, but yes. Could be dj, could be convo, could be live performance.

[Laura Styles]

I. I think that we're very capable. Capable of having some really cool live performances. Because this.

[Rosenberg]

Because you went too far.

[Laura Styles]

Because the. The stew has tentacles now.

[Ebro Darden]

The stu. Got situations.

[Laura Styles]

Got situations.

[Rosenberg]

But I think Laura just went, am I out of school? Am I out of whatever for saying Ibro that Laura's gone. That's another step. That's another step.

[Laura Styles]

I mean, we're talking about wishful thinking, the future.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, Ebro's. We could do like, Ebro means something. We could fire up next week if we wanted to. Yeah, like, he just means playing music.

[Ebro Darden]

But yes, but we could still. What Laura's saying is. Has it.

[Rosenberg]

No, in time. In time, I think we could.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, exciting.

[Rosenberg]

So that could be cool.

[Ebro Darden]

What I'm asking is. And maybe in the chat they could talk. What I'm asking is, is that content that you would love to have from us via Patreon, because we can't do it live on YouTube, so it would have to be paid.

[Laura Styles]

No, no, no, no. All right.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, no, Rosenberg can't decide. He can't decide.

[Rosenberg]

Well, the only thing I'm thinking about is, like, how do those DJ mixes work? Like, my wife loves to play in our house, in the. In the living room while she's hanging out with the baby. She loves to have on, like a DJ playing show. It'll be a Neo soul mix. It's just a DJ in his house playing music or whatever. They. Why? So there is a way to do that and not get flat.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, let's just do it and we see what happens.

[Rosenberg]

You can go live on YouTube. Demonetize.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. You can't monetize it.

[Rosenberg]

And, and, and because you're not stealing video, you can get away with playing it. But if you Started playing no video.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, but I was talking about Patreon.

[Laura Styles]

DJ friends that would.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm trying to. Listen, guys. We have people giving us their hard earned money every month. I'm trying to find out ways to incentivize a doing that because we are charging a pretty penny, I think $10, 9.99, whatever you guys call it. That's not light like that. People have to think about that. Like, that has to be a consideration. Like, am I going to commit to this? And if you're watching this right now and you can consider that, please go ahead and subscribe. We appreciate you, but I'm trying to figure out how to make sure that that has the real value we need.

[Laura Styles]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

That I. It would be fun though. I would be open to it.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

I do want a DJ again.

[Ebro Darden]

That was a. That was a head. That was a heavier lift than I anticipated when I started.

[Laura Styles]

I've had DJ friends ask me, when am I going to be a guest. They're ready.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, really?

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, they're ready.

[Ebro Darden]

Do they got a following? Anybody actually want to see them? Like what we talk about?

[Laura Styles]

We're talking about some legends. Like, what do you. What do you mean? We know some amazing people.

[Ebro Darden]

I didn't know who you were talking about. I wasn't trying to. I didn't know who you were talking about. I didn't know if it was like Juanito, who you're beefing with, hit you on the side. He thinks people want to see him. DJ now.

[Giovanni]

Go.

[Laura Styles]

He would.

[Ebro Darden]

That came in quick, by the way. I just want to point out none of us are in control of the drops right now. And whoever hit that, they was Juanito.

[Rosenberg]

No, they heard Juanito and they said.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, I can't get a drop hit that fast ever.

[Rosenberg]

And they came through quickly.

[Ebro Darden]

I couldn't even finish my thought.

[Rosenberg]

I was going to say, let's hit Family Matters. If you have drops, you have that. Do they have that? I don't know if they have that.

[Ebro Darden]

It's time.

[Rosenberg]

Woo. We got everything today.

[Ebro Darden]

It's a rare condition this day and.

[Rosenberg]

Age to read any good news on the newspaper.

[Ebro Darden]

Love and tradition of the grand design. Some people say it's even harder to find.

[Laura Styles]

Well, then there must be some magic.

[Rosenberg]

Clue inside these jazzle walls. Cause all I see is a tower of dreams.

[Ebro Darden]

Real love bursting out of every spot.

[Rosenberg]

All right, now turn it off. We don't already get flag Too much. Too much.

[Laura Styles]

All right. Right.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, I have never watched more. Four episodes. I can't. Maybe five.

[Rosenberg]

Four episodes no, yeah, it wasn't your era. It wasn't your.

[Ebro Darden]

What years were that? What years?

[Rosenberg]

You were already. You were like, yeah, tgif. Ebro was already like a young teenager and outside, right?

[Laura Styles]

No tgif.

[Ebro Darden]

What are y' all talking about?

[Rosenberg]

Yo, that's. Thank you for proving the point. That was the lineup on Fridays on abc.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, Friday. Yes, I was outside.

[Ebro Darden]

I was not.

[Laura Styles]

Your favorite joints, Rosenberg, you were. You were watching Dinosaurs.

[Rosenberg]

I, I don't. I didn't watch Dinosaurs.

[Ebro Darden]

Dinosaurs.

[Rosenberg]

I watched Full House in Family Matters.

[Laura Styles]

Though, and Family Matters. Yeah, me too.

[Rosenberg]

And I watch some Strangers at some point on Fridays.

[Ebro Darden]

Wait, Perfect Strangers was Fridays?

[Rosenberg]

I think at some point it moved.

[Ebro Darden]

To Fridays because I watched Balky Bartokomas Don't Play With Me. That was my jam.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, that he. That was, that was, you know, by, by the time 13, 14, Hebrew was outside, you know.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, I was in the streets. 13 years old. Yeah. No, I wasn't, I wasn't still on my mommy's teeth, you know what I'm saying? Like, these two, like, these two couldn't even go outside.

[Laura Styles]

My dad was like, you ain't going nowhere. I'm like, fine.

[Ebro Darden]

What else are you saying? Rosemary Keeps going. I was eight.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. I don't know what to say.

[Ebro Darden]

I was eight.

[Rosenberg]

I was eight years old by the time I was 14. My parents still wouldn't let me go to like concerts downtown or anything, so.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, wow. Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

That was still just hanging out at friends houses.

[Ebro Darden]

I was at the. I worked in the mall at 14, so I thought at 14 years old, I was working at two stores in the mall where I was unpacking boxes. And the mall closed, I think at like 9 o' clock at night. And so I had to. I still had to get home via bus or bike. And I said. And that's when I started. And around my way, that's when I started like playing music. Like this one, this. This cat used to do these house parties. And that's when I, I would like, you know, on the way home as he was setting up, you know what I mean? Get a little second to go see what's going on type thing before I had to be in the house. So I. But I couldn't stay out until like 11 o'.

[Rosenberg]

Clock.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, but I was trying to. I was moving around a little bit.

[Laura Styles]

Rosenberg, what was your first job like? Your very, very first job I had.

[Rosenberg]

I had so many.

[Laura Styles]

But the first one.

[Rosenberg]

First, first one, first one was. Was at the synagogue. Oh, at the Hebrew school.

[Laura Styles]

Okay, first Shalom.

[Rosenberg]

No, it was. Or Kodesh. I was at the.

[Ebro Darden]

I went to Beth Shalom.

[Laura Styles]

What were you doing?

[Rosenberg]

I was helping with Hebrew school with the little kids.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, that's nice.

[Rosenberg]

But they had me in the office. I was filing papers, doing Xerox copies, just helping out in the Hebrew school. Then my second job. Then my second job was at the reggae record label. My friend Allison, who you met the other day. Laura.

[Laura Styles]

Yes, yes.

[Rosenberg]

Allison's uncle, Dr. Dredd, he owned the record label in Silver Spring, so I did that. Then I was at Foot Locker.

[Laura Styles]

All right, all right, all right.

[Rosenberg]

I was outside. I had a lot of jobs.

[Laura Styles]

Front desk at a dry cleaners. That was my first job.

[Rosenberg]

It's an important job.

[Ebro Darden]

Wait, Laura, you know what's crazy? When I was. When. So my. My grandmother owned a dry cleaners in Albany, California, which is right outside Berkeley. Richmond. That kind of area. So when I was like, seven. Well, not.

[Rosenberg]

No.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, like five, six, seven. I was working the front desk at the dry cleaners.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, nice.

[Ebro Darden]

I remember. Yo, how about this? I remember having a Walkman. My first Walkman I got for Christmas, sitting at the front desk. And I had two cassettes.

[Rosenberg]

Okay. Oh, here we go.

[Ebro Darden]

I had Cool It Now.

[Laura Styles]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

And I had Michael Jackson, Thriller. So now I had to be nine. That's 84, right? 83. 84. So I had to be eight, nine years old.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. The album's 83.

[Ebro Darden]

So what? Thriller's 83?

[Rosenberg]

82.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, 82. I think so. Yeah. Actual.

[Rosenberg]

Actual release date.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. So I was seven.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, wow. No, I was working at the Drink 14 because my tape was To Cal. That was my tape.

[Ebro Darden]

Good tape. Great.

[Rosenberg]

I was right. I was right. Sorry. The album is 11-29-82. And the crazy thing is it can get confusing because the single for Thriller is the last off the album a full year later.

[Ebro Darden]

Ah, got it. Okay. But I definitely remember having that when it dropped. I got that or around when it dropped because I got it for Christmas. So that was at November. So it was a month after it dropped.

[Rosenberg]

All you could do when the girl is mine come out, came out, came on is fast forward. The old school fast forward.

[Ebro Darden]

I didn't even know I hated it.

[Rosenberg]

You didn't know you hated it?

[Ebro Darden]

You know. No, I didn't know I hated it then. You know why? Because I was seven and my. I had zero taste, you know, like the rest of you people who jump on here telling me what your kids like and. Oh, listen to the kids.

[Rosenberg]

Yo.

[Ebro Darden]

F. These damn kids. They don't have no taste. They don't have no. No context. They don't have no. So I didn't. I didn't know that Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney singing about a girl and them fighting over a girl was. Excuse my language, dog.

[Rosenberg]

I didn't know this.

[Laura Styles]

That's harsh.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. I didn't know family matters started talking, but anyway, origin stories.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, speaking of family matters, Rosenberg, you have a big story, right?

[Laura Styles]

What's happening with you, man?

[Rosenberg]

I don't want to, like, I. I honestly don't feel like getting all, like, too deep because it's. It's confusing. It's going to put me in a mood. But essentially, we moved into an apartment because we needed space.

[Ebro Darden]

All right. And I think people remember that saga.

[Rosenberg]

I think so. And it's just not. Even though there's upside to it, there are things we like about it, bro. It's something else every day. Like, we are just every day, there's something that annoys us, that Maya's room is cold. This thing isn't working. The lobby, when it snows is so slippery that literally, you're worried you're gonna die.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Like, I had to fight with these people and say, I'm. I'm helping y' all out. You need to do something, or someone's going to harm themselves badly. This is like a skating rink. What are you doing?

[Laura Styles]

It is. I was just at his apartment, ebro. And he's 100% right. Someone's definitely gonna bust their ass.

[Ebro Darden]

Wait, what y' all was doing? I didn't get the invite. What's happening? Well, no, let's talk about. Since we're talking about family matters. I didn't get the invite to the gathering. That's the type of time.

[Rosenberg]

Well, Laura Lord, did you.

[Ebro Darden]

And a lot of stuttering going on.

[Rosenberg]

Well, did Laura. Did you mention your thing that you were doing in the city to Ibrahim?

[Laura Styles]

I don't know if my man did.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, wow. Did Ricardo.

[Laura Styles]

Did Ricardo text me?

[Rosenberg]

Ricardo hit me with the last minute.

[Laura Styles]

Text about he's not gonna come saying.

[Rosenberg]

They were having brunch in SoHo. A little brunch. And so go ahead.

[Laura Styles]

But it was to celebrate, you know, the artist he's working with, Ryan Witherspoon.

[Ebro Darden]

Got it.

[Laura Styles]

So, you know, he had a lot single.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura Styles]

So it was just like a brunch.

[Rosenberg]

Got it. So Ricardo reached out and hit me. And my friend Allison was coming over, and then Natalie was like, oh, see if Laura and Ricardo want to pop by if they're in the city. So they pop off.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. No, no, he hasn't hit me about that. He only. I only get hit when I can help them get on playlists and actually help him make money. But nobody wants me to. Nobody wants me to come have a meal. You know what I'm saying? Nobody wants me to just hang out. But please help us make money and promote our artists. You know what I'm saying?

[Laura Styles]

No, he would have said, absolutely not on a Saturday.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm watching how this plays out. Tell your man Laura Styles that you know I'm watching him.

[Laura Styles]

I'll tell him that you're offended because you didn't get an invite.

[Ebro Darden]

You know what I'm saying? Not that I was going to come.

[Rosenberg]

I wasn't going to come.

[Ebro Darden]

I wasn't.

[Laura Styles]

I thought you wasn't.

[Ebro Darden]

I wasn't going to come on a Saturday, cuz me.

[Laura Styles]

And I was like, I got to come.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, the other part is Saturday. You know what Saturday is? Saturday is me, Salasi and Issa. Okay?

[Rosenberg]

We le.

[Ebro Darden]

We leave the house promptly at 9am we get smoothies and bagels, okay? And then we got to get Issa to Alvin ay. By no later than 9:30 so she can start stretching and warming up. And then I got to get Salasi back down to gymnastics. Do gymnastics. So I'm in there with Salasi on the balance beam, working on forward rolls and all that. Then get back uptown, pick Issa up, and then we go get lunch. So we're not.

[Rosenberg]

The answer is he wouldn't have done it no matter what we are. So, okay. I saw my apartment for the first time the other day.

[Laura Styles]

So Natalie hit me. Is like, do you want to swing by? And. Because also, you know, yes. She was like, my friend Allison is here. I was like, all right, yes, we'll swing by.

[Rosenberg]

So anyways, long story short, there's always something. This apartment is very expensive. The hallways are nasty as hell. They're doing a construction two apartments over from us that I'm pretty sure is unpermitted. And they're doing it on some shady. Ish. Hard to explain why. It's just weird. It's just effing weird. Today, Natalie opens the door. I'm not home. Obviously. I can't say Natalie's in, you know, having the best time dealing with everything while I'm in Saudi Arabia, across the world on roller coasters with wrestlers. It's already not the best, you know, situation. That's exactly how she feels. She opens the front door and it's completely draped off like. Like you're in a fucking. A bleeping hazmat situation. Like a blue. Wow.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. Yeah. No, she can't even walk out our door. There was no heads up. Nothing.

[Rosenberg]

Nothing. It's all with these people. Right? And so here's the part that's. I fear how Ebro is going to react to this because I. I know his. I just know him. But we still have our other place. We're in the process of setting up to sell it, and it's really hard because we go there and we're like, we're leaving the place we like and we hate the place we are. And so we're debating what we do and whether we just take the next month to minimize the stuff because we know we could have stayed there if we didn't have a ton of stuff. It was a manageable place for one child. Yes, but not when you're a collector with 90 pairs of shoes and all your records. And we could go back and make it work there. Yo, Ibro, I don't have a garage, bro. I know this sounds super spoiled. I'm sorry. Send your emails. No, listen, ebro lauro gmail.com spoiled. Rosenberg talks about parking lot. My car is currently under, I don't know, nine feet of ice. It's just a lot, bro. It doesn't even include the fact. Sorry, Laura, go ahead.

[Laura Styles]

No, I was just going to say, listen, you know, my man is a collector. Collector.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Is it? Yo, we getting in it. This is family matters.

[Laura Styles]

You know how I feel. You know how I feel, right?

[Ebro Darden]

But you said porner or a hoarder. Hoarder. I was like, wait, what?

[Rosenberg]

So you thought we're back to Nicki Minaj and Trump again?

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, like what?

[Laura Styles]

So. And I was a collector, too. I'm not gonna front. I had.

[Ebro Darden]

Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. You're late. You were late on that one. Whoever. Exactly. That must be Griff. You were late on that one. But I. I see where you're going.

[Laura Styles]

No, no, no. You guys already know. I. Ebro, you already know. I had tons of supreme limited edition this and sneakers. Guys, I got rid of so much junk after Kenza came into our lives. And one of the biggest, to be honest with you, me and Ricardo don't fight. We fight about stuff. Yeah, because I'm like, you got to get it out. You got to get it out. And I have this thing. I was like, you're bringing five sneakers in. Some of them has to go out.

[Rosenberg]

You know what the problem is, though? But, Laura, that's a good thing that you guys fight about it. The problem is me and Natalie don't fight about it because we both want it.

[Laura Styles]

I know.

[Rosenberg]

And. And. And then we. And then we say we're going to do it. We're going to do better. We're gonna. But the bottom line is, like, Laura, you know, I mean, Ebro, you haven't been to my home in a while, but you've been in that home, too. My. My old apartment is enough for us and a small child. It's not that crazy. Like, it's manageable. It just. We didn't have it.

[Ebro Darden]

So let me. Let me ask you this, Rosenberg. Since we're in family matters, do you love the inside of this apartment that you're in?

[Rosenberg]

Of my new one?

[Ebro Darden]

Yes, the new one.

[Rosenberg]

I like it. And it's more comfortable than our old place. I like it. I do not. I'm not gonna go as far and say I love it. Like, as Laura can attest to a lot of the spaces in the hallways, it's not like the living room's that much bigger than our old living room.

[Ebro Darden]

No, but it's just a long. It's got a longer hallway and more bedrooms.

[Rosenberg]

Long hallways and more bedrooms and smaller.

[Laura Styles]

Room and, like, a lot more smaller.

[Rosenberg]

Rooms, more small rooms. It's not that much bigger. The main thing that would hurt Natalie is she would lose the kitchen. And in this kitchen, she can actually. There's an island. She can, like, prep and cook. Our other one is a small, challenging kitchen.

[Ebro Darden]

So you've been in this new place 12 weeks?

[Rosenberg]

No, not even. We're. We're coming up on eight weeks, and.

[Ebro Darden]

We just had a snowstorm, and the weather's been trash, and the building is well documented trash. The question I have for you is when the sun is shining again, will it feel different? Will it feel different?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, I don't know. That's. This is what I'm going to be wrestling with. Because the only other thing is if I'm going to try to deal with these. These landlords, if I'm gonna try to deal with them, my best play, if I have a hope, is probably top of spring to get out, because that's when people rent, right? So if you want to make the move, if there's a chance they'll let us get out, because I called a lawyer. Yo, the system is so foul. The lawyer was like, listen, are there rats running across your room? If not, you're probably gonna waste a lot of time and money if you try to make This a legal reason to leave. They have all the power. The landlords have all the power.

[Ebro Darden]

Right, Right.

[Rosenberg]

We live in a favor.

[Ebro Darden]

New York City's a financial city. You know, that's what mom. That's why you have a mom. Donnie. Fighting and people voting for that is because the.

[Rosenberg]

The. The.

[Ebro Darden]

The financial hub, the big real estate, big corporations, they run New York City.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, exactly. And you know what happens when you. When you talk about these violations? You. You. These violations. They get slapped on the wrist. Nothing happens. Maybe they pay it, maybe they don't. She just showed me that it's both of our doors. She just. We have two doors in our apartment. Both of them are completely covered. By the way, what kind of nastiness is happening out there that you have to cover our doors to?

[Laura Styles]

I know. And why?

[Giovanni]

Question.

[Laura Styles]

Why didn't they give you a heads up? You have a child.

[Rosenberg]

How are we going outside with our child? How are we taking the dog out?

[Ebro Darden]

I'm sure it has something to do with this construction and.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Ebro Darden]

And whatever. If I were. If I were her, I would take a pair of scissors and I would cut us. I would cut a slit in the. In the tarp. Excuse my language. And I'll go on about my business.

[Rosenberg]

Well, we're gonna have to. But, like, that's still a little iffy. What are you doing out there?

[Laura Styles]

You don't want to expose her to any weird.

[Ebro Darden]

No, Yeah. I mean, there's definitely dust and there and there's fumes. And by the way, you're already exposed if you're in your house. She should definitely put a mask on and maybe a face covering on a baby.

[Rosenberg]

Now, the baby's not gonna go out. It's. If it's also zero degrees outside, there's nothing to go out. What are you going out for right now? Right.

[Ebro Darden]

So maybe that's why they just. Maybe that's why they tarped it. They're trying to insulate it. Maybe it's cold in that. In that joint. And they were like, you know what? There's an old building. Let's store up a chart.

[Rosenberg]

Question. Real question. Let me ask you a real question. I called a couple of environmental places about coming to check out the place.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

The first place one like 900 to.

[Ebro Darden]

Even show up was this for the mold inspection. We never got an update on.

[Rosenberg]

Not for mold. I'm not. I'm not even as worried about the mold. I don't think the mold was related to my health. Like, we're fine. We're all. We're all doing okay now.

[Laura Styles]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

They. They have like 11 different lead paint violations. So let me ask you a question. What's the likelihood if they've had that many different violations of every sort humanly possible? What is the likelihood that there's not some sort of effery underneath this, that what we can see in this apartment?

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, for sure.

[Rosenberg]

I have a neighbor friend who went in the light. He went in his lights and took pictures, and he saw that they clearly had cut through firewalls to make their apartments bigger. Yeah, you're not supposed to cut through firewalls. They're there for a reason, to block fire. If God. There was one. Not only that, when he stuck his camera up there, he saw tons of debris. Like they dropped the ceiling and left bull stuff on top of the ceiling.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

So we could have nasty rocks and unhealthy things above us.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, there's definitely mold. There's definitely mold. There's definitely asbestos. Yeah, no, there's definitely asbestos and lead paint.

[Rosenberg]

So my question is, if. If they've done all of those things, what are the odds that we're not being affected by it at all?

[Ebro Darden]

Well, I think, listen, this is family matters, and this is a family matter. And since we're your family and we're dealing with this matter, we also want to make sure, you know, congratulations. You place yourself.

[Rosenberg]

I didn't know where he was going.

[Ebro Darden]

Sorry.

[Rosenberg]

P. Congratulations.

[Ebro Darden]

You played yourself.

[Rosenberg]

No, it's the most. It's the most. It's perfect. It's. It is. It's the definition of congratulations.

[Ebro Darden]

You pledges no 1,000% now. Congratulations. You played yourself. That was today's Family Matters. It was a great episode. We got some Laura in there. We got some Rosenberg. Thank you for sharing on my end of the stick. Everything is great. East is 11. She just. I just missed her science. Her stem fair at her school, which I've never missed before, but because they moved it to a Thursday instead of a Saturday. And I'm currently traveling dealing with super bowl next week. And this week was versus matter of fact versus tonight, Apple Music, 8 o' clock Eastern, 5 o' clock Pacific. Mike will made it vers Hit boy. And I'm hearing the special guest.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, got to be crazy.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, man, this is gonna be fun.

[Ebro Darden]

Let's see if this works out, though. See if it works out. Cuz everybody's in town. It's the Grammys. But anyway. But I had to have a long conversation with Issa where she, you know, she's a big sister now.

[Laura Styles]

Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

She's got a very busy schedule with flag football and Alvin. Ay. The stresses of school. She's kind of feeling like, you know, she's a sixth grader now. She's, you know, talking about high school. She's, you know, looking around at what the world has to offer, and she's got a lot of stuff going on.

[Laura Styles]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

I can't put all her business out. But she was like, daddy, I don't feel like. I don't.

[Rosenberg]

I don't.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't feel like we get to talk anymore. Now, mind you, we opened up our Apple Music studios in Los Angeles in August. So I've been out here a lot more and I've had to travel a lot more to get out here and do content out here. Yeah, normally Issa and I would have. Me and Issa would. I would pick her up from school, we'd take her to dinner. That was like our Monday thing. Take her to practice like I was. But because she's had flag football and I'm doing Apple music, I haven't been able to get her from school. Her mom's had to get her. Take her to practice. Plus, now you're a big sister. So every time she's at my house, we walk in the house and it's Selassie on Toddler Run around, and it's chaotic. I'm like, listen, I completely understand. So we had one of those talks and. And I was like, anytime you want to talk, just let me know. She's like, well, sometimes you seem so busy. And then, you know, we have family stuff and we're having fun doing other stuff, and it's just like, you're just. I. And I was like, listen, anytime we need to talk, you just say, daddy, we need to talk. And everything stops and we focus on what you need. Like, we're in that zone. Yeah, but we're having. We're having. We're having that kind of talk. And then.

[Laura Styles]

And then she's also need to check in on her. Hey, maybe I'm glad you.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm glad you said that. So I often text her, right? She's got her little watch now. I could text her, right? But I'll text her, like, when she. Because she can't have it at school. So I'll text her after school if I'm traveling or even if I'm in the city. And we just, you know, she's doing her thing, but she doesn't hit back. But I'm not going to text her mom and say, hey, she hasn't hit me back. And she, she. She was just like, well, I'm busy sometimes or I haven't looked at it, and I'm not really good on text. And I just want to see you face and I just want to talk.

[Rosenberg]

I'm not good on text.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, she with. I'm not good on tax. Yeah, man. But no, she just wants a dad. And I think also this, the other thing I think kids go through, they reminisce on when things were. I mean, adults do it too. You reminisce on when things seemed much simpler. Right. When we had more time together during the pandemic, which were formidable years. Like, she was, you know, during the pandemic, she's like, what, four, six? No, she's six. Seven.

[Rosenberg]

Five, six, seven. Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

That's like formidable. Where I was like, you know, everybody was home. I was with her all the time, every day. Like we were doing. You know what I mean? And now she's 11 and she's like reminiscing like, we used to be able to do this and we used to be able to do that. I'm like, yeah, but, you know, times have changed, you know, times of. And so the guilt. Nice. I don't think. I didn't, I didn't receive it as guilt. I received it as like, I'm glad that you can articulate yourself, first of all.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, that's very good.

[Ebro Darden]

I received it as like, this is an opportunity to just talk about how hard growing up actually is. And I reassured her that, like, if you run through the list of everything that you have going on right now, including being a big sister, including like just becoming a. A pre teenage and all of the school stuff and all of the extracurricular stuff. A mature adult would be struggling with your schedule.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

And, and, and missing. And missing their significant other or missing their family. Like, what you're saying is completely the way you should be feeling. It's completely healthy. You have nothing to worry about. And I'm here for you whenever you need to talk. Like, it was one of those conversations where it's like, I miss you too. I wish we had more time also. Let's figure this out. Let's set aside time. Let's. You know, we did all of that stuff.

[Rosenberg]

So that's. That's pretty great. That's actually all together. It sounds pretty healthy right there.

[Ebro Darden]

Listen, what more could you ask for? Right?

[Laura Styles]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

Not a lot.

[Laura Styles]

But I will say Kenza did hit me real quick. Like, everybody's parents came to so and so how come you weren't there? And I was like, right after we wrap this up, I'm going to the school because I'm going to go whatever.

[Ebro Darden]

Open Friday or recital. You gotta. You gotta do it.

[Laura Styles]

You gotta do it here. I promised her, and she. And she'll remember. P. Oh, you promised me.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right.

[Laura Styles]

So I gotta go.

[Ebro Darden]

No, you gotta deliver. Listen, and you have to be proactive, Laura Styles. You gotta be in that calendar.

[Laura Styles]

Yes, yes.

[Ebro Darden]

You got to be in that school calendar. Listen, I've definitely missed some. They have these open Fridays that they do periodically. It'll be in the calendar. And I've definitely, like, had to drop and cancel work stuff. Like, yo, I got to get to my daughter's school.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

You know what I'm saying? Or.

[Rosenberg]

And.

[Ebro Darden]

And so you got to check that schedule, man. If your calendar ain't tight with these kids.

[Rosenberg]

It's a thing, yo, I. Do you ever. Do you ever think about how long it's been since you would, like, regularly pick Issa up? I mean, physically?

[Laura Styles]

Oh.

[Ebro Darden]

No.

[Laura Styles]

I was like, come here, give me a hug. Sitting down.

[Ebro Darden]

Issa. Issa's. Issa's like, what? How. Issa's taller than you now, Laura. Yeah, for sure, right?

[Laura Styles]

I'm five.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, Obviously the time has passed.

[Ebro Darden]

Issa might be as tall as you, Rosenberg.

[Rosenberg]

No, she's close. Like, like, obviously the time has passed. But isn't it crazy that, like, I just think about that all the time when I'm picking up Maya because she's a baby still, and, like, one day, it's not going to be like this, and then you look back, you don't even know when the last one happened, right? Like, every. It.

[Ebro Darden]

It goes quick. It goes quick.

[Laura Styles]

All right, guys, we got to get to freedom. Friday. Friday.

[Ebro Darden]

Freedom.

[Laura Styles]

Friday.

[Ebro Darden]

Friday. Freedom. We got some time, man. Shout out to everybody in the chat. We are on the road, as you can see, and we appreciate you guys still locking in to talk some.

[Rosenberg]

Ish.

[Ebro Darden]

In the chat. Yo, we got some. We got some amazing trolls in our chat. I don't know if they're f. But the trolls, they come through, they pull up, and we appreciate your engagement. You know, I'm saying. Gotta say that. Friday. Freedom. Okay, let's see.

[Rosenberg]

Freedom of Friday.

[Ebro Darden]

Do we have any voice notes? I don't see any.

[Rosenberg]

We do.

[Laura Styles]

We have voice.

[Rosenberg]

Maybe you don't see them. There's a ton of.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm looking at. At the top where it says, here are the emails and the voice notes. For this week. Then it says Friday, freedom emails.

[Rosenberg]

No. And then your email is, like, on drugs.

[Giovanni]

Maybe.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't.

[Rosenberg]

It's. That's so weird. Okay. Yeah, we do. Let's start. Let's. Let's start with Ozzy. You got Ozzy over there.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, my voice notes are all the way at the bottom of all of the emails.

[Ozzy]

Family. What up? Ozzy from Texas. Right back at you. You know, I had to hit y' all up. Now, I told y', all, if y' all remember when y' all were at the old plantation, that I was gonna be riding with y' all wherever y' all went. Well, y' all went, and I went with you, baby. Here I am.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, thank you.

[Ozzy]

I'm even gonna do the dance for the 10 Patreon. All right.

[Rosenberg]

What?

[Ebro Darden]

Do the dance by you real quick.

[Ozzy]

All right. Since I'm giving you my $10, let me. Let me, let me. Let me run some. Let's go the flagpole. Now, did y' all hear about the Tick Tock? The girl on Tick Tock that wrote a jingle for Dr. Pepper and they used her jingle in the commercial in the national championship game. Yes, she got like $2 million or something. Yo, great story. So let me know what y' all think about this. And now the lowdown with Laura Stiles.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, yeah, I hit the. Oh, yeah. All right, listen, we're gonna listen. Well, how much you charging?

[Ozzy]

Let me know. Family, let me get back.

[Laura Styles]

You're the best.

[Rosenberg]

It depends on price.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, hang on. We gotta hit a price because, listen, you know, we on a budget now. We got to make sure. Laur, a mortgage, Griff or sign. We got. You know what I mean? We gotta. We gotta make sure. Cuz me and Rosenberg got multiple jobs, so we're making it happen, but we got other people got to take care of. Now, Ozzy, what we could do is cash app, you back your $10 and you sign off on us using your voice. You know what I'm saying? So we could give you $10 back.

[Laura Styles]

There you go.

[Rosenberg]

But.

[Ebro Darden]

Or, excuse me, 9.99. Whatever it is.

[Rosenberg]

That's true. Will that help?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, maybe he'll let us use it for 9.99.

[Laura Styles]

Ozzy's dope. All right, all right, let's go to.

[Ebro Darden]

What do we got first? Email. Okay, go ahead. Laura Sapps.

[Laura Styles]

I got one. This one's from Freddie Mac.

[Rosenberg]

All right.

[Laura Styles]

All right. I'm excited that you all have returned. Basically, five minutes after getting fired. There's no stopping this trio. I'm A truck driver that listens to you guys on the podcast app every night. You guys make my 14 hour days go by quickly. I have a suggestion for Wednesday since there's a YouTube music obstacle causing whitish Wednesdays to be potentially allocated to Patreon. Correct, my friend. How about washed Wednesdays? Here we are.

[Rosenberg]

Okay. I like this so far.

[Laura Styles]

Where the fox can write it and hit themselves with the button for being washed.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay.

[Laura Styles]

Episodes around the time Peter heard himself trying to run up the stairs had me dying, laughing hysterically.

[Rosenberg]

Thank you.

[Laura Styles]

When Fox wrote in or called telling their stories. I laugh so hard. I would love to hear more of those stories. And also the. The image for your show should have a shark in the background because blood.

[Ebro Darden]

Is in the water.

[Laura Styles]

Thank you for my email. He said I would be honored if y' all could hit me with the button.

[Ebro Darden]

Hit Freddie Mac with the button, man. Give him some love.

[Rosenberg]

He deserves that.

[Ebro Darden]

Congratulations. You played yourself. Now blood in the water. Is the merch moved? I don't know if Laura Styles, the merch manager, is going to decide to bring that back at some point, but I hope she does.

[Laura Styles]

Maybe we'll see.

[Ebro Darden]

The. The reason I said blood is in the water, just to reiterate so we don't lose sight of it, was because something had happened to us and the sharks were circling and they wanted. They really. People really wanted to devour our whole existence. They wanted us gone. Blood was in the water. People were getting aggressive. The savages were out. It was a crazy time.

[Rosenberg]

We saw. We saw it.

[Ebro Darden]

They did not know. They did not know about. I mean, now y' all correct me if I'm wrong. And I think we talked about this on the Patreon. When I brought up the new stew. Do you think people took it serious? I mean, like when I was telling y', all, when I was telling. Look, even our. The former people we worked with. Hey, y', all, I'm launching a new stew so that we can really look right on social media and look right on the Internets because I always felt that our content wasn't moving around. Our studios that we worked with were not conducive to looking awesome pond the Internets. And we needed a new stew and I was gonna make that investment so that we looked great. Do you think people thought I was playing or.

[Laura Styles]

I think. I don't think they took you serious. They were for us to get one variation of our so called studio. We can't even get that done. So how can he.

[Ebro Darden]

Right?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. I can't call it. I Can't call it.

[Ebro Darden]

You took it serious, Rosenberg, but you did. Now, let me ask you this, Roseburg. Did you. Did we? Did we. What's. What's the term I'm looking for? Are you impressed by how it landed? Is it better than your expectations? I think we talked about that on the. On the Patreon.

[Rosenberg]

On the Patreon, yeah. I mean, my expectations were that it would be good. I. I think I can't really, like, give you a full assessment until I feel like this is the product we're putting out. Like, Right. We haven't done that yet. We put out. We put out our Patreon, which is halfway there. And I still think there's great things about it that are better than anything we've done in years, but we're not at the full capacity. Like, even the stuff I saw yesterday was 30% better from a week earlier. So I can't give you the full thing, but I'll say I believe it's going to end up being something that for the first time in a very long time, we're, like, proud of the product. I don't know that I even felt that proud of the way the hot stuff looked. And the best version of hot stuff.

[Laura Styles]

Right. It was never amazing.

[Rosenberg]

I hated the back room with the couches.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

I hated the second studio that we moved to. Then we eventually just did it in the proper morning studio where we probably always should have done it. And that was the best version of it, and I didn't even love that.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, and. But remember, the reason we never stayed in the main studio when we were at 395 was because there was a show that would come on after. And so we really only had that one studio. So we ended up going to the back so that we could just make extra content for. Guess where we've been for, I don't know, 20 plus years on YouTube.

[Rosenberg]

Can I. And I'll say something respectfully. They should have arranged a long time ago, if they cared about that, that the midday show would be. Yeah, we talked about studio, and we just lived in that studio because the matters. But we didn't. Anyways, yes, I'm very impressed with it. I'm excited to see it get to its next level. It was fun to be in there. All the things.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, while we're talking about that, let's go to Giovanni on the voice note. Here we go. Since that. That aligns with this concept.

[Giovanni]

Laura Rosenberg, Good morning. It's Giovanni out here in Vegas. And, man, let me start off by Saying, man, we. Y' all had us scared. Y' all had us scared. We saw the blood in the water. We didn't want to believe it. Ebro, you was telling us, man, did not want to believe it, but it happened. The old plantation let y' all go. But, hey, y' all found new ground. Yalls out there. Y'. All, y' all giving the community what we need, what we love, and we appreciate y' all for that. You know, I'm gonna be like Rosenberg right now. And I'm not trying to throw any shade to the old plantation, but, you know, I, I've been seeing on the socials, you know, congrats out to Miro for getting the gig, man. I'm gonna tell you right now, Mero, big shoes to fill. Real big shoes to fill. But you gonna do, you're gonna do your thing in the city, man. But I've been seeing the socials. Sonny Shawnee culture on the socials. He's hot.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, my God.

[Giovanni]

Voice is clear as that. As clear as day. And I've been looking at the studio. Studio looks real nice. Real nice. And socials are really hot with, you know, with, with the new show and the new iteration of the show. So keep it up. But, you know, it's kind of shady, you know, how they did job. But guess what? You have your community out here that has been following you for the past couple weeks on YouTube. I copped the, the T shirt. Blood in the water. Can't wait to come out. Thank you to come home.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, thank you, Giovanni.

[Ebro Darden]

Thank you, Giovanni. Thanks, man.

[Laura Styles]

I get it.

[Rosenberg]

I think he may have overstated the quality of the studio since we left. They did add wallpaper, though. So, you guys, you know, that was right at the end. That was, that was when we really should have known, when the new wallpaper popped up, that we all. This is a, this, they consider this a big expenditure. Well, Jeff, $700.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, I'm glad you brought that up, because just like the new apartment you currently live in.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

New wallpaper is not going to fix the problems that they have with technology, camera angles, cleanliness. Cleanliness. That goddamn bathroom. And I'm gonna say it again. What? Wbls, the legendary heritage black radio station in New York City. The conditions they work in are disgusting and embarrassing that that has been allowed.

[Rosenberg]

Crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it's crazy. And I couldn't, I couldn't tolerate it. I'm saying something like I couldn't take it. I, I, I can't. I can't. And, and, and once again, it's because I know what we come from and I know what it deserves.

[Rosenberg]

It should be. Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

And I, I know what it deserves. And, and I also know how much money the owner of the property has and is unwilling to invest because he keeps losing money because he makes bad decisions on who the leadership is and doesn't know how to run a goddamn radio station. But that's nor here, nor there, because it ain't mine. It ain't. It ain't mine.

[Rosenberg]

Remember, that was the comp I was making the other day to the apartment situation. We, we, we are all at the mercy of people with a lot of money who are going to do what they're going to do.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And.

[Laura Styles]

And are willing.

[Rosenberg]

And are willing to stall you out, get lawyers, do all the things. That's what the nature of the beast is. All right, all right. Let's take another email, shall we?

[Laura Styles]

All right, you got one or you want me to go?

[Rosenberg]

No, I got it. I got one.

[Ebro Darden]

Let's go, let's go.

[Rosenberg]

I want to come with something good here.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

All right, here we go. In the spirit of Ebro's voice. Say what you want to say. Feel how you want to feel. This is a yes king, yes shout out and a bsa.

[Laura Styles]

Okay. Okay.

[Rosenberg]

You guys talked on Thursday about this last week. Yeah, last week about MAGA women who take on their men's views and how you see strong, smart women with good personalities dating with guys who are kind of dating guys who are kind of numb nuts. Ebro made a comment that this kind of woman needs to be the center of attention and drive the ideas while women definitely be out here settling. That's a very specific character, as Laura pointed out. Here's to testify here to testify that charming, confident men who are decent human beings do exist. And I wanted to make something known for the good of kings listening. Smart women have standards. What we find masculine and sexy and confident are men who are unafraid to be empathetic, respectful of women, and speak up to defend us when it matters. There are plenty of well intending men who hear their friends say racist, misogynist or homophobic things and stay quiet or just roll their eyes and laugh. My yes, king, yes challenge is to call your boys out when they say things like this. There's nothing sexier than a man who is confident enough in his masculinity to do the uncomfortable thing, call out gross behavior. Good guys staying quiet and accepting that ish from the people around them is giving secure, small d insecure, small d energy. For example, when you guys brought up heated robbery last week, I noticed some homophobic comments in the chat. Very cringe in 2026. Just saying, it doesn't make you less of a man to stick up for those more vulnerable than you. If your friends call you gay or soft for acknowledging that probably not the crew you want to be with. There's a reason so many. There's so many single Republican men in D.C. kindness and humanity is sexy to smart women. I want to shout out Ebron Rosenberg. You're both examples of charming, emotionally intelligent men. The way you can be vulnerable and introspective on the air is refreshing. And case in point, look at the brilliant, beautiful women you've both got in your lives. Men listening can take note, and women listening should stop settling and dump your MAGA boyfriend.

[Ebro Darden]

So I. Speaking of MAGA boyfriend in this whole thing. Thanks, Cat.

[Rosenberg]

Didn't.

[Ebro Darden]

Didn't we discuss on the Ebro Laura Rosenberg show was that last week I played an Instagram clip. Griff, remind me of someone talking about the divorce rate among.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, yeah, we did talk about women.

[Ebro Darden]

Or white women married to conservative MAGA supporting men. And that's like a thing now.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, we. We talked about this because I remember bringing up how they. That's why they're trying to make it harder for women to get a divorce.

[Ebro Darden]

Right?

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, that's a thing.

[Ebro Darden]

So this is a, this is a thing. And, you know, I think there is, there are, there are women who settle. They want to have a family. They've accepted that, you know, boys will be boys kind of attitude thing that is out there. There are some women like that, but there's a lot of other women who haven't accepted that.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I, I just don't understand, like, how could you be with somebody. Like, if your person. Right. Is MAGA and they stand morally, how could you be with somebody who stands for everything that you don't like? I, I don't see how people can do it. I do not understand that.

[Ebro Darden]

I think some people, especially women, have been socialized and conditioned to be okay with their opinion not mattering. It's all about support.

[Laura Styles]

It is for some women, and I see that.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Laura Styles]

I still. Because I grew up in a very traditional Latino household, and I was quick to give the middle finger up. Like, I just do not understand. How can, how can you literally live with somebody, have children with somebody who has hate in their heart?

[Rosenberg]

I. I know, but I will tell you, like, listen, I think we all, all of us have. There are men that we know who are, who may be in our families and friends.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Who, who we have that we love. And they have some viewpoints that you're like, how, how is this a viewpoint? It becomes very sticky. I looked past this email that seems worth definitely reading Friday Freedom.

[Ebro Darden]

If you want to email Ebro Lauren rosenbergmail.

[Rosenberg]

I know we have to kind of hustle up here and get to the gurus, but Ebro Lauren Rosenberg, loyal listener, 15 years from the old station to the podcast, YouTube, and now Patreon.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, wow, man. Listen, love you.

[Rosenberg]

I signed up because I genuinely support the show. I want to see it succeed. That said, I have two serious concerns, both involving Rosenberg. First, the Satan voice bit needs to go.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, man, Satan, yo. Okay, they're gonna protest.

[Rosenberg]

Well, but listen, this isn't even where you think it's gonna go, okay? This, this isn't the Howard Stern show. I know Rosenberg is a fan. It consumes a lot of Stern content. Not anymore. I have many times. I do occasionally, but the imitation is obvious. Well, I guess I don't consume enough because I'm not doing an imitation. But the imitation is.

[Ebro Darden]

Or you didn't know? You didn't know?

[Rosenberg]

I didn't know. And honestly, distracting. I stopped listening to Stern years ago for various reasons, and I don't want that same energy carried into this show. If I wanted Stern, I wouldn't be emailing you. I'd be listening to him. There's another part that's, I think, more serious than this. That's not. If you mean that I'm generally imitating Stern, like it's giving Howard Stern. I suppose that could be an assessment. Like, it reminds me of a bit they would do on Stern. Okay, if you're saying that's an actual bit he does, I don't know that. Yeah, that bit came up because it's a built in voice effect on my board and we think it's hilarious. No, it is funny.

[Ebro Darden]

It's funny.

[Rosenberg]

Like I, I, I. Guys, it's not often that I go back and watch a moment from our show and laugh Again. The 50 thing from the other day with combo with the Satan.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, no.

[Rosenberg]

That's funny. Laugh out loud. So I respect your opinion, but I don't think comedic taste should be, quote, a serious concern that you have. That's just a matter of taste. But goes on to say, second, and more importantly, okay, the recent conversation about religion crossed a line. Rosenberg casually referencing Islamic extremism, blowing up buses, etc. Was unnecessary and harmful. What exactly Is that helping? Comments like that only contribute to Islamophobia, which has existed in this country for decades and continues to have real consequences, especially given recent events in places like Minnesota and Texas. When someone randomly tunes in on YouTube or the podcast and hears that kind of language, it reinforces the false assumption that Muslims are extremists or terrorists. As a Palestinian Muslim living in New Jersey, I found that deeply offensive. Not all extremists are terrorists. Not all orthodox Jews are Zionists, nor are they bad people. Not all Catholic priests represent the worst actions associated with their faith. You know where I'm going with this? No religion should be reduced to its most extreme examples. Freedom of religion.

[Ebro Darden]

I can't even, I can't even let you finish.

[Laura Styles]

Like, because I talk about.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, no, no, no, no. Well, that part. But I, it's. The person emailing said that they've been with us. And in this, for a minute, did we mention terrorism. And Muslim folks participating in terrorism extrapolated away from all bad extremism within religion.

[Rosenberg]

The exact opposite. Absolutely. The only reason I said something like about Muslim extremists or terrorism was because we were talking about how there's terrible extremism everywhere. Yes.

[Laura Styles]

We always talk about Christian nationalists. I even brought up cult because I was watching a good little Hulu doc on cult. Every religion has extremists that are insane.

[Ebro Darden]

Every, Every group, Every group. Every ethnic group, racial group, religious, whatever.

[Rosenberg]

And the sensitivity to that being because Islamophobia is worse in my opinion than any other sort of religious phobia in this country. It's right. I mean, Islamophobia and anti Semitism, they battle. There's a lot of stuff there that's bad and hard for everybody.

[Ebro Darden]

But, but just, just for that though, remember, people see Jews as having a level of protection because they rep. They, they, they, they represent as white and have financial power. Not all, but many in society that brown Arabic speaking Muslims don't have.

[Rosenberg]

Yes, so, so, so there's even a higher level of sensitivity. What I find frustrating about the, the listener who. I obviously appreciate your level of dedication to the show. While the term may have offended you, because anytime you hear something like related to Islam, terrorism, explosions. I understand why all of those things would make you extremely sensitive.

[Ebro Darden]

And coming from. You remember that part of it and coming from your mouth.

[Rosenberg]

But if you've been listening for 15 years, I can't tell you the level of resistance, resentment. I feel that you would hear my opinions about everything every day. The honest and critical way that I speak about Jewish stuff and Israel stuff with a level of criticism so much higher than I've ever spoken about anything related to Islam. And it would propel you to write me an email that I ever even said it. Because what we're not going to do is be incredible, incredibly hard and appropriately so on Israel every day and pretend that Palestinian extremists have not blown up buses in Israel. We are not going to do that. And that may hurt to hear, but just as Jews, and specifically not Jews, Israel is committing a genocide in Palestine. You can also admit that terrorist groups have blown things up in Israel. These are facts. And it's not fair for you to expect me to be so self critical. And if I even utter the word related, come. That's just unreasonable. That's on. I hear you. I'm sorry you felt that way, but that is unreasonable.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, people do get unreasonable about their ish.

[Giovanni]

Mm.

[Ebro Darden]

People do get unreasonable about their ish and who the messenger is about their ish.

[Rosenberg]

They don't think that I could have ever had any queasy moments on this show where you Ebro.

[Ebro Darden]

No, they're not thinking about you.

[Rosenberg]

They're not about my stuff. And I just sit here going, they don't think that could ever feel anything.

[Ebro Darden]

They're not. But what you're asking for is empathy. Was that. Is that what you're saying? Listen, that doesn't always. That's a muscle that takes work to exercise.

[Rosenberg]

Muhammad, you're a good person, clearly. But that was a bad take. I'm sorry, that was a bad take. But that was a specific conversation. If I. I know Ibro. It made me go crazy. Like, wait, there was a conversation where we were loosely. Just. I just threw that out there. Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

I couldn't even listen to the email anymore. I was like, wait, when did this happen? But, but you know what? People. People, man, the way the human brain works and the way people are, if they haven't worked on that muscle of empathy or really their listening skills or looking in the mirror and. And really critically analy triggers them and why they're triggered and why something coming from Rosenberg's mouth is triggering you. But if I were to say the same thing, it doesn't trigger you as much. A lot of that is. Is all of that is tied to our social programming. Right? It's tied to. And we all have it. I'm not excusing myself, but I have to check myself sometimes too, where I'm like, I don't like this messenger, but they're not lying. But why Don't I like the messenger? Well, it's because there's a lack of trust. Well, why is there a lack of trust? Well, because there's history tied to whatever my experience was or whoever that person was or. Or the big one, the race of that person or the gender of that person. Right? So there's a lack of trust. So really, what that email says to me is Muhammad has a lack of trust for Rosenberg because Rosenberg is a white Jewish person and was working on something that triggered him.

[Rosenberg]

Listen, no matter how long he's can't.

[Ebro Darden]

He doesn't trust. He doesn't.

[Rosenberg]

I still see it in the comments. I saw it in the comments yesterday or whenever we had a recorded show. I was in the comments reading someone's like, yo, I just know Rosenberg's a closet racist. I still see that. No one.

[Laura Styles]

No one is ever happy, bro. They're never happy. They're never happy.

[Ebro Darden]

But. But, but. And that's why I brought it up in those terms, right? I wanted to use some real responsible language.

[Rosenberg]

That was.

[Ebro Darden]

That was their language because Muhammad is clearly somebody who loves us. Is. Is. Is not smelling his own. He's not smelling his own doo doo here. And. And. And. And, you know, it's a good conversation. You're not smelling yourself, Muhammad.

[Rosenberg]

And we all stink is what we're saying. We all stink a little bit.

[Ebro Darden]

We all got some ish. We all got some ish, man. At the end of the day, we all got some ish. Now, we appreciate your emails once again. You want to get on Friday? Freedom. We got voice notes we didn't get to, but we got to get on over to this guru, man. The original gurus at Gmail.

[Laura Styles]

That was my heart. That was my heart. The original news at gmail dot com.

[Ebro Darden]

Wait. Nah. Griffin on point. Ain't no way he left out the harps.

[Rosenberg]

No, the harps built in. He doesn't have the harp. That's another.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, damn it, man.

[Rosenberg]

Maybe we could add it afterwards if you hear one.

[Ebro Darden]

No, that wasn't it. Whatever that was.

[Rosenberg]

Yo, but the effort, though. No, the effort was.

[Laura Styles]

All right, all right.

[Rosenberg]

The original gurus. Gmail.com. the original gurusmail. Gmail.com.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Your destination, for clarity. Is it just me, or do other mothers feel this way? I just need to validate my offense, I guess. The statement, ma', am, we're gonna have to ask you to control your children is very annoying, unpleasant, and downright disrespectful. Been a loyal thought I suggested is singular. Since when it's singular. The show is Jo and I'm not getting to that part. Okay, she goes on, says she loves the show. Okay, yes, I'm in Texas. Sucks to be me. Shout out to Shawnee. Still have respect for him. Limited respect for him, she says. Come on.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

I'm a single mom of high energy twin boys, four year old toddlers. Sometimes I have no choice but to take them to the store or shopping with me. My mom lives with us, but she could use a break because they're so high energy. Anyways, all this talk of high energy is making me feel that whatever was said, keep going.

[Ebro Darden]

It was valid.

[Laura Styles]

It was valid.

[Ebro Darden]

It was valid.

[Rosenberg]

Anyways, last weekend I had to take them because I needed to buy them new shoes. One of them had tossed one shoe out of the car window last week. But he's only found comfort and fit in this particular brand. I remembered he'd mentioned once that they were too small, so I knew from the experience that guessing his new shoe size would be a waste of time. You all know these kids grow by the week. Anyways, we get to the store and they start a wild I'm caught between trying to find the exact same shoe and locating a possible size and being a zookeeper to these wild, wild boys, each running in opposite directions of monster Mommy. She put that in quotes. Had I done what's in my nature to do, which is knock some chill into them. I know all of these white parentheses said in Shani's voice, ladies and some men would have clutched their pearls. I'm deeply offended by this statement. I can't seem to get past it. I truly understand how annoying it is to have infants running around unhinged. They're not infants. However, saying it, saying it to an out of breath, exasperated, frustrated parent in a cruel tone, control your children. It is the equivalent of you're not a good mother. I'm pissed at her. I know. I'm never going to go back in that store. Don't believe I'll continue to be a subscriber to that brand ever again. Oh, so it was someone who worked at the store and it was the store of a specific brand.

[Laura Styles]

Right, right, right.

[Rosenberg]

I will go first. Quickly. I validate your feelings. It would feel terrible to have that said. That being said, sounds like what you.

[Ebro Darden]

Need to do is control them. Damn kids.

[Rosenberg]

But I validate your feelings.

[Ebro Darden]

No facts.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, I mean, I've been in situations where kids are wiling out and kids want to be that person.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, don't say kids.

[Laura Styles]

I'm Talking about other people's kids.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, facts.

[Rosenberg]

No, with her kids, she can.

[Laura Styles]

While out. Yeah, I just, I don't, I, I have a hard time when people. Okay. Do not take care of their children. If we're at a restaurant and your child is screaming at the top of her lungs or his lungs while everybody else is eating and you're just acting like, oh, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll stop when they want to.

[Ebro Darden]

What.

[Laura Styles]

What is wrong with you?

[Ebro Darden]

Well, it doesn't sound like. First of all, this person sounds like they're aware that their children are wild and chaotic. Okay? So let's set that aside. Four year old boys, twins. Right. Is a different, is a different challenge than I think any of us can relate to on this program. There are sacrifices that it sounds like you already make as a parent because you know your kids are wild. You need to take this instance on the chin because you know your kids are wild. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Like, it's not as if you're delusional. Well, she, listen, she might be trying. She said that. What it. What was her line? She said that, you know, she would have snatched her kids up or she. Whatever, whatever, but didn't want to do it in that moment because she felt like she would be judged or the people watching might say she was going too hard. I know some people who have boys that are. The more you try to control them, the more chaotic it is. They are ready to go to war all day long. The only thing you can do is keep them in a space where they can be active, as active as they want to be. They got horror. I mean, listen, some boys are dealing with. The hormones are crazy. They can't sit still even if you discipline them. Like it's a thing I've seen. I have nephews that are. Were disasters. They're good now. They're like 11. But when shout out to my. Shout to my dude mall. You know what I mean? You were a disaster. My guy a does that. Yo. My little nephew Xavier a disaster. Great kids. Now could yo. The parents could not do anything. They couldn't. They couldn't do anything. All they could do was take them to activity, take them to school and have him in the house. There was no restaurants. There was. Couldn't take them.

[Rosenberg]

And to what age? So what age are we talking about, man?

[Ebro Darden]

At least like nine, right? Eight. Eight. And so you're gonna have to make the side. You, you have a set of those kids where you're gonna be like, listen, we're gonna go in this restaurant in the first place, 10 minutes, they're going to be pulling menus, they're going to be doing whatever. Maybe they'll be chill, maybe they'll listen. In the second 10 to 15 minutes, we're going to give them a little iPad. Maybe that'll hold them for a second till the food comes. And in the third 15 minutes, we're going to be wrapping this up and getting in the car. There was a period I had to do that with Issa where it was like, all right, listen, I know at about 20 minutes she gonna start tripping, which means one of two things. I'm taking her out and everybody else gets to stay for dinner and I'm taking her home. Or we're wrapping this whole thing up.

[Rosenberg]

Right. You gotta be realistic with yourself.

[Ebro Darden]

You gotta, you gotta. And you gotta just make sex.

[Rosenberg]

Like.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

I'm tell you that the truth is, it does sound like she kind of punted here and was like, I'm gonna just worry about the shoes. And the kids were running around the store screaming like, that's annoying. Because guess what? Other people got kids. They're there dealing with their. Like, it's hard. It's just tough to deal with.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, and I want to encourage this parent. I don't know what your financial situation is. I think you can do kids shoe measurements. They have. Amazon can send you something to the crib for you to measure your kids shoes and feet.

[Rosenberg]

Boom.

[Ebro Darden]

And then you can. And then you can order cop shoes online also. Cop the shoes. Cop two pairs. If financially you can. And send one back. Amazon takes returns. Oh, everybody takes returns. You know what I'm saying? Where you don't have to put yourself in that situation anymore.

[Rosenberg]

That's exactly right.

[Ebro Darden]

And don't. And don't blame the brand for one employee in a store somewhere.

[Laura Styles]

That's ridiculous.

[Ebro Darden]

That you're going too far.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. If you want to complain, you could say. You could complain to them and say absolutely was rude. That is straight up the person.

[Ebro Darden]

But make sure you tell them that this employee was also right.

[Laura Styles]

Make sure you. My kids were wild.

[Ebro Darden]

Your employee was an A hole. But they were right. But that's not the point.

[Rosenberg]

Exactly.

[Laura Styles]

Anyway, I hope this helps. So say the gurus.

[Ebro Darden]

So say the gurus. Outro music, please.

[Rosenberg]

It's time.

[Ebro Darden]

I gotta go bring in the Ebro Laura Rosenberg show band. That's right. Another week in the can.

[Rosenberg]

Hey, I gotta hit up next.

[Ebro Darden]

Absolutely. It's good though. This is a heater. See you guys on Monday. We will hopefully be in the new stew if all the technology is working right. And we'll check y' all out. We're also gonna be getting some merch updates from Laura Styles. Enjoy that new J. Cole this weekend. Enjoy that IDK this weekend.

[Rosenberg]

Enjoy the Royal Rumble Saturday.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes. And also. And this. And tonight I got a pre show for the verses. Shout out to Jordan from Complex. We'll be live from the Apple Music Studios in la. And we got Mike Will made it a hit boy. Tonight, five of the Pacific, eight o' clock Eastern. Don't follow the podcast.