27.) GRAMMY Talk, Nicki Unravels, + Texas Special Election (2/2/26)

Summary

The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show – Episode 27 Summary

Episode Title: GRAMMY Talk, Nicki Unravels, + Texas Special Election
Release Date: February 2, 2026

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Overview

This episode features Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg convening in their new studio, diving into a lively, candid discussion about the 2026 GRAMMY Awards, Nicki Minaj’s recent public meltdowns, and the unexpected results of a Texas special election. The trio’s signature mix of humor, cultural critique, and behind-the-scenes industry insight shapes a densely packed and entertaining hour.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Studio Vibes and Technical Struggles

• The new studio sparks several playful jabs about forgotten audio files, off-brand water bottles, and production mishaps, setting a loose, comedic tone.
• [02:16] Rosenberg jokes about Ebro living in his phone, referencing Ebro’s failed attempt to play a viral “old man” song: “He's the old guy who's so living in his phone...and when you go into the real world, it's not tight.”

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2. News Recap: Don Lemon Arrest, Press Freedom, and Political Climate

• Don Lemon’s Arrest:
  • The panel reviews the media coverage and implications, ultimately dismissing it as “a nothing burger’’ but warning about increased government crackdowns on journalists.
  • [03:33] Laura: “It's still scary as hell, bro. These people are nuts.”
• Georgia Fort Incident:
  • Discussion about another journalist, Georgia Fort, who was raided at home:
  • [04:26] Ebro: “For people who haven't ever been arrested...the federal government, bro—the Attorney General trying to implicate you in something, that's—”
• Deterioration of American Institutions:
  • Ebro invokes the phrase “banana republic” to reflect a sense of absurdity and lawlessness in the system.
  • [06:00] Ebro: “Truly, at this time, there's so much you can't take seriously...but your life could depend on it.”

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3. Texas Special Election

• Unexpected Democratic Win:
  • The crew covers the surprise Democratic win in a historically Republican Texas senate seat, and Trump’s denial of involvement despite his “truthing” about it.
  • [07:34] Rosenberg wonders if Trump even writes his own posts: “Does he not type every one of his crazed tweets? Are there people who know the crazy caps? Absolutely.”
• Trump’s Response:
  • Played a clip where Trump dodges responsibility for the loss, deflects to talking points about crime and borders.

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4. Music Industry Talk: The Versus Recap & Pandemic Nostalgia

• The group debates the latest Versus event, featuring Hit-Boy vs. Mike Will Made-It.
  • Crowd Critique: Disappointment over the lackluster crowd energy, blaming “industry people” and the “too cool” LA vibe.
  • [13:13] Laura: “I wish people had a better time, you know. I wanted some energy.”
  • [14:40] Ebro: “When you go through the catalogs of Mike Will and Hit Boy… Mike Will’s got some bangers. Hit Boy does too, but he’s gotta lay his out in a way to make sure he lands it right.”
• Reflection:
  • Versus felt less urgent post-pandemic; during lockdown, it was “the only thing moving.”

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5. Radio vs. Podcasting & The State of Listening

• The Decline of Music-First Content:
  • The crew laments viewers’ preference for “yo yos talking” over actual music.
  • [16:15] Ebro: “By the way, I got in this business for music. I like music. I like playing music. I like listening to music. I wish more people listened to music. I’m into music.”
• Nostalgia For “The Nielsen Game”: Discussion about radio’s repetitive playlisting vs. music discovery and diversity.

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6. GRAMMYs Review

• Main Highlights:
  • Praise for the D’Angelo tribute (Bilal’s “Untitled” & emotional moments), Lucky Daye, Raphael Saadiq, and Wyclef.
    • [18:14] Rosenberg: “The two parts that really messed me up—when Bilal came out and did ‘Untitled’...and then the Roberta Flack bit with Feels Like Making Love. That sent me, bro.”
  • Minor criticism about a sped-up “Brown Sugar” arrangement.
    • [19:18] Rosenberg: “I didn’t need the sped up Brown Sugar. That bothered me… Brown Sugar’s a slow song…”

Host Critique

• Debate over Trevor Noah as GRAMMY host:
  • [22:10] Ebro: “He does a good job.”
  • [22:23] Rosenberg: “He’s a nice guy. I don’t like him as a host. And I’m glad that it’s over.”

Major Wins

• Bad Bunny – Album of the Year:

  • First Spanish-language album to capture Album of the Year.
    • [24:21] Bad Bunny’s speech: “We're not animals. We're not aliens. We are humans, and we are Americans.”
    • [25:27] Laura: “When he sat there and… tears coming down, I wanted to jump through the screen and give him a big hug.”

• Political & Cultural Impact:

  • Discussion about how Bad Bunny’s activism (notably in Puerto Rico) makes him a lightning rod for politicians.
    • [27:08] Laura: “There are politicians in Puerto Rico…who are Republican. They hate Bad Bunny because he’s proven to be more powerful than they are.”
  • Anticipation of Bad Bunny’s possibly political Super Bowl halftime performance.

• Kehlani’s Wins:

  • Overcame media cancellation attempts, rallied for justice from the GRAMMY stage.
    • [32:17] Kehlani (audio): “Together we’re stronger in numbers to speak against all the injustices…”

• Kendrick Lamar:

  • Sets all-time record for rap GRAMMYs, surpassing Jay-Z.
    • [52:41] Ebro: “Kendrick opens his mouth, they give him a GRAMMY.”

• Tyler, the Creator:

  • [52:24] Rosenberg: “Tyler the Creator’s performance was awesome…That was next level.”

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7. Cancel Culture: Is Anyone Really Cancelled?

• The crew debates the reality of “cancellation,” referencing Kehlani, Ye, and agency blacklists.
  • [34:26] Rosenberg: “I’m just saying, I find the notion of ‘cancelled’ to be sort of made up.”
  • [34:58] Ebro: “Right…like we can’t sit here and act like speaking out against Israel isn’t dangerous.”

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8. Epstein Files Discourse

• Viral rumors about Jay-Z and Pusha T’s names being linked to Epstein are debunked as coming from unverified FBI tip line calls, not actual evidence.
  • [37:51] Rosenberg: “The Epstein. Your name appearing in the Epstein files is not the be-all, end-all. And so that…that goes both ways.”
  • [41:20] Rosenberg: “We are basically learning…that people who are admired and powerful…were a part of horrible abuse of children, potentially murder and snuff films and rape and all the worst things—but the way it’s been handled now has been tossed into this huge conversation…that’s meaningless.”
• Caution against desensitization amid the deluge of documents and sensational coverage.

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9. Nicki Minaj "Unraveling” and Industry Fallout

• Nicki’s Outburst:
  • The team reviews Nicki Minaj’s extreme social media posts, including wild accusations against Jay-Z and Beyoncé, and her pivot to right-wing politics.
    • [45:38] Laura: “She posted a picture of Jay Z with Aaliyah and Jay Z and Beyonce and…Did the math wrong, but keep going.”
    • [45:59] Laura (reading Nicki Tweet): “Are y'all understanding that these people have been sacrificing children as a way of gaining and maintaining power?”
• Homophobia:
  • Noting repeated homophobic attacks against Trevor Noah and Don Lemon.
    • [50:50] Rosenberg: “She basically said, Trevor Noah's gay…She also doubled down on the homophobia against Don Lemon…It's crazy. That homophobia, of all things, has been her like bread and butter right now."
• Impact on Her Fanbase:
  • [51:58] Ebro: “The barbs are good at finding a message about their leader, but they're weak now. They are. They do feel weakened.”

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10. Super Bowl & Personal Life Chatter

• Ebro’s Super Bowl Access:
  • [30:08] Ebro: “Yeah, I’ll be there.” Entertaining banter about access, privilege, and the absurdity of only attending Super Bowls in-person.
• Versus & Live Events:
  • Laura and Ebro discuss which events are still “worth” doing recaps for, referencing the way the pandemic reshaped digital community around musical events.

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11. Advice Segment – “The Gurus”

• Listener’s Letter:
  • A listener shares her frustration over her husband’s insecurity after her physical transformation.
    • [59:21] Full story: Together 19 years, married 12, recent "glow up" leads to husband accusing her of cheating, searching her phone, etc.
• Advice:
  • Ebro and Laura advocate therapy (solo & couple’s), support self-growth, and warn about projecting insecurities.
    • [59:51] Ebro: “Your wife just became a baddie.”
    • [61:40] Laura: “Let me help you. And someone please tell him, whatever he’s saying to you, he’s actually…self-prophesizing.”
    • [65:41] Laura: “Hopefully he’s open to therapy. Maybe you start couples and then switch over to just him.”

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On the state of U.S. politics:
  “[06:00] Ebro: ‘...remind ourselves of how much of a banana republic we are as a nation. Right? Truly, at this time, truly, there's so much that you can't take serious’”
• On the energy in pandemic-era music events:
  “[15:41] Rosenberg: ‘Now I think it's, we don't fail if we don't do it. But we should, because it's good music.’”
• On Bad Bunny's GRAMMY speech:
  "[24:21] Bad Bunny (quoted): 'We're not animals. We're not aliens. We are humans, and we are Americans.'"
• Nicki Minaj's descent:
  "[45:59] Laura (reading Nicki): 'Are y'all understanding that these people have been sacrificing children as a way of gaining and maintaining power?'"
• On “cancel culture”:
  "[34:26] Rosenberg: 'I’m just saying, I find the notion of “cancelled” to be sort of made up.'"
• On advice for insecure spouses:
  "[59:51] Ebro: 'Your wife just became a baddie.'"

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Final Thoughts

This episode encapsulates the show’s best qualities: friendly chaos, sharp pop culture and political takes, music industry expertise, and irreverent personal banter. The hosts deliver a dense and entertaining breakdown of the GRAMMYs, the turbulence around Nicki Minaj, and the state of America in 2026—with plenty of detours into advice, nostalgia, and studio mishaps that longstanding fans (and newcomers) will appreciate.

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [00:00] – Studio banter, technical difficulties
• [03:04] – Don Lemon, Georgia Fort, press freedom
• [07:18] – Texas special election & Trump’s denial
• [11:09] – Grammys, Versus recap, crowd energy
• [17:01] – Music industry talk, radio vs. podcasts
• [18:00] – D’Angelo Grammy tribute, Bilal, Lucky Daye
• [22:10] – Grammys host debate (Trevor Noah)
• [24:21] – Bad Bunny Album of the Year speech, impact
• [32:17] – Kehlani’s Grammy speech, activism
• [34:26] – Cancel culture conversation
• [37:51] – Jay-Z, Pusha T, Epstein Files discourse
• [45:38] – Nicki Minaj’s unraveling, social media posts
• [52:24] – Tyler, the Creator & Kendrick’s Grammy records
• [59:21] – “Gurus” relationship advice segment

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For behind-the-scenes debate, viral social commentary, and the most insightful music industry takes, this is a masterclass episode of the Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg show.

Transcript

[A]

Just don't call it a podcast. Oh, wow. Look at us. Look at us. Look at us, ladies and gentlemen. You got Ebro Laura Rosenberg on. Ooh. In the new still. That's right. Listen. Good morning, everybody. It's your opportunity to switch from whatever you was doing over to this vibe for a second.

[B]

Welcome.

[A]

We gotta get into the Grammys.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We gotta get into what's going on in the world. Cause it's a f mess outside.

[B]

Is it?

[A]

Yo, I found a new. I found a. A guy on Social I think had. I don't know his name. I gotta find his name so we can give proper credit. Rahsaan. Do you have that in there? That video?

[B]

Which one?

[A]

This guy made a phenomenal record. I want you guys to.

[C]

Made a record.

[A]

It's a song.

[C]

A song?

[A]

A song. I don't know this person's name. And I want to shout you out, all right? Because I think this. The music. What he's saying really, really captures.

[B]

Huh?

[A]

The vibes right now.

[C]

Bascom doesn't know what you're talking about, though.

[A]

You don't have effed up. Effed up ish going on. I put it in the chat. You said you only you needed extra audio. I sent you, like, two other things. You didn't see that? Three other things.

[C]

Damn. We need a camera.

[A]

Oh, man. There's an old man playing. You didn't get this?

[B]

We need that one. Oh, no.

[A]

Look at you guys looking at each other.

[B]

It's all right.

[C]

You can play it dumb and dumber.

[A]

Let me play.

[B]

All right.

[A]

It's not edited, so if you got kids in the car.

[C]

Is this. You sure this is worth starting out our first studio show?

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

All right, let's go. And let's hear it.

[A]

There's a visual, though, that I'm. I'm surprised you're not getting. All right, let me get this for you guys. This is phenomenal, right?

[C]

All right, all right, here we go.

[B]

This is.

[C]

I'm curious about where this is gonna go.

[A]

Oh, no, it's not playing.

[C]

This is. Listen, I'll tell you what this sounds like.

[A]

Look at that video. You don't want this Rahsaan box. This is classic.

[C]

I don't think this is worth it. I'm gonna call it right now.

[A]

You really don't. Congratulations. You play?

[C]

Not considering we don't usually do curses. So, like the old white man just screaming and mashing and.

[A]

It was good.

[C]

You know what?

[A]

Hassan didn't put it in the system.

[C]

I'm gonna tell you the problem.

[A]

Sent it Over. It's not in the system, bro.

[C]

Is now. And I've said this a lot, but it's just more and more true. He's the old guy who's so living in his phone that there are things that happen in there that when it happens, like this is tight. And when you go into the real.

[A]

World, it's not tight.

[C]

It's not that good.

[A]

It's good and terrible.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

I mean, yeah, it's. I don't. I just don't know if it's worth what we're so. I mean, I see why you liked it at the time. I just don't know if it's hitting like that. But it hit for you in the moment.

[A]

It didn't hit. It was just it. The song is terrible. He's terrible looking. The video's terrible. And he's saying it's up. Is going on. It's perfect.

[C]

It's of the moment.

[A]

Come on, man. You guys ain't getting it. You guys not seeing the vibes, man. Listen, you're not really feeling the type of time I'm on.

[C]

No, no, listen. The vibe is right. It is after. What was this? Since we were last together, what happened?

[B]

So much, I feel like so much.

[C]

The Don Lemon fiasco. Which, by the way, in the end, got to say, for the record, there were a lot of messages about like, where are you guys? We got to talk about Don Lemon. And I. My. My feelings long term played out.

[A]

Which one.

[C]

It was really your initial feeling. It was a big old nothing burger. In the end, it was great pub for Don Lemon.

[B]

I will. It's still scary as hell, bro. These people are nuts.

[C]

It was scary for that other late. Particularly for that other lady. Do you see the video of the lady in her house?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Who they went. Who they went and bum rush. Now, did we ever hear.

[A]

I think her name is Georgia Fort? Am I saying her name right?

[B]

Could be right.

[C]

Did we ever hear if she got out at the same time? Because that's. That's the way. Scarier situation. Not someone who has tons of publicity and a team and people keeping an eye on.

[A]

Mind you, Don Lemon got scooped up at a Grammy party, Right. She was in her house with a family, four or five o' clock in the morning, people looking through her windows.

[C]

And her kids in the house.

[B]

Yeah. And I believe it was only two people. I think like five total independent journalists. All black.

[A]

The guy. Well, yes, all black. The guy from the local Black Lives Matter chapter. Woman journalist. There was another organizer that was there And I think it played out where federal judges, like, basically were like, this is absurd.

[C]

This is crazy. Yeah.

[A]

And, well, for Don Lemon, I don't know about.

[C]

But that's the thing. I never saw official information on her, so I would like to know whether.

[A]

Griff, can we get an update if there is one?

[B]

Yeah, man. I mean, listen, I hear you on the Don Lemon stuff, but it's still. It was still scary to me.

[C]

No, no.

[B]

These people do not follow the law. They don't care. And what celebration in MAGA land to, like, arrest Don Lemon?

[C]

No, I. Both can be true.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Like, I knew he was. Come on, man. Don, for. For what? Don's operation has been recently. This was the dopest thing that could have happened. He's on Jimmy Kimmel tonight. It's all happening. This was. And. And they had absolute zero on him. I mean, he was literally just there doing nothing.

[A]

No, it was. It was.

[C]

Listen, he got home and started calling the President out of his name, all kinds of curses.

[A]

No, no.

[B]

All right. Georgia Ford got out.

[A]

Georgia Ford.

[C]

She got out, too. Okay, that's great.

[A]

If you are in the press and you are, you know, going out covering things, there has always been a protection for you. And so to Laura's point, yes, it is very concerning that someone literally just at the scene of a thing can be arrested for sure. That is terrifying. And for people who haven't been. Ever been arrested or know how these things work. The federal government, bro. The Attorney General of the United States of America trying to, you know, implicate you in something, that's.

[C]

When you're just. When you're just showing up to an event to cover it is insane.

[A]

But I think what we have to do is remind ourselves of. Of how much of a banana republic we are as a nation. Right? Truly, at this time, truly, there's so much that you can't take serious. It's tough. It's tough to flip your brain and look at that office and the White House and say, okay, I can't take this serious. Normally, we've all been conditioned to take that stuff serious.

[C]

Well, and you also have to take it serious because your life could depend on it. So you can't take it serious, but you need to take it serious. All of us. All of us who speak out loud about this stuff need to take it serious.

[B]

Did you see. Excuse me, but did you guys see that? A lot of people who have been protesting, whether you're just standing outside with a sign or you're actively marching, they'll scan you and they're, like, already snatching People's Global Entry. TSA PreCheck. Like they're intentionally messing. Just messing with you.

[C]

Yeah. That's all you do have to pay attention because it's very real.

[A]

Well, in the. In the. You should be taking it serious file, but it's not really that serious. Donald Trump was tweeting, or truthing, whatever it's called, about the Texas Democrat election. Mm. And really riding for a. Excuse me. The election in Texas and really riding for the Republican.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Democrat ended up winning over the weekend.

[C]

In a seat that hadn't been Democrats since 91.

[A]

And here's Donald Trump, who was truthing, tweeting, whatever you call it, on social media about the Republicans supporting the Republican.

[C]

Definitely not true thing.

[B]

No.

[A]

That's how.

[C]

No. Well, it's just definitely not true thing.

[A]

It's not true.

[C]

Right. It's not true.

[A]

Social.

[C]

Yeah, there you go.

[A]

Play the video, Rahsaan, please. You have this video.

[C]

This president, Texas, a Democrat, won in.

[B]

Our area that you had won by 17 points.

[C]

What is your reaction to that? I don't know. I didn't hear about it. Somebody ran where? In Texas.

[A]

Special election for legislators.

[C]

The ninth state senate seat. I'm not involved in that.

[A]

That's a local.

[C]

Texas.

[A]

You were talking about it on social media.

[C]

17.

[A]

And this person lost. Things like that happen.

[B]

Does it worry you about.

[C]

Well, you don't know whether or not it's transferable. You know, I'm not on the balance. So you don't know whether or not it's transferable.

[A]

But, you know, you put the Democrats in, you'll end up with open borders again.

[C]

You'll end up with crime all over the place.

[A]

With no crime anymore.

[C]

No crime anymore. 125 years in recorded history. The year 1900. That's a long time ago.

[A]

So it's very good now. I don't know anything about it.

[C]

I didn't know. I mean, I know there's a race.

[A]

Going there, and so he didn't know anything about it, but he knows there's a race going on? Which one is it? Definitely not truth.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Definitely not truthing right there.

[C]

Because at first I was wondering, is this saying that either A, he's lying point blank, which is obvious on the table, or. And this would be interesting, does he not type every one of his crazed tweets? Are there people who know? No. Does he have other people who speak fluent Trump around him? They know the crazy caps.

[A]

Absolutely.

[C]

They do all the things.

[A]

Absolutely.

[C]

Like, you know, you remember, I don't.

[A]

Got to produce him.

[C]

Like the Iron Sheiks Twitter account. Yeah, respectfully, I know the guys who ran Iron Sheiks Twitter account. I don't know if he ever put up a tweet, but if at some point he did. At some point he certainly stopped and they were like, no, no. We know the Iron Sheiks crazy cadence. And we type for him.

[A]

Can you remove your ragtag bottle of water? It's not conducive to this beautiful studio. What are you drinking?

[C]

This was. What's here.

[A]

Who bought this?

[C]

Ask someone.

[A]

The worst bottle of water. I've never even seen that brand.

[C]

Basically spring water.

[A]

What? Did you get that off the table? I got these headphones. You have basically. What is this?

[C]

You can't see my headphones, man. What does this have to be? Are we doing this in, like, a wax museum?

[A]

No, this is a shrine, sir.

[C]

We have iPads here.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

No, the water bottle.

[A]

Your monster bows. Get out of here. You can't even spend any money here. Bose hasn't either. Can you see what type of time I'm on now?

[C]

Can you see my one shot? Can I see my one shot?

[A]

Why are they there?

[C]

You can't see the headphones?

[A]

Yeah, there's a whole room over here. Why are they even here?

[C]

Because they're there to be charged. What's wrong with you? Why'd you start the show with that terrible freestyle that no one wanted?

[A]

I thought our producers would have their itch together since I put it in the group.

[C]

Why'd you think that?

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

You know what? Congratulations. You played yourself absolutely right.

[C]

And can you get a camera on Bascom? We need to work on that because when you just call his name out and the look he gives of what.

[A]

But the funny part is then he acts like he can't literally pick up his phone right now and see what I sent to him and get it together like it was in the. He's sitting there. He still hasn't picked up.

[B]

I mean, because it. I think he has to go pick up your phone.

[C]

Yeah, but now dress. He's the same guy.

[A]

Help him out. There's two people over there.

[C]

That's a lot, bro. You're asking a lot. You're asking a lot.

[B]

It's over with. We don't. The old man is doing.

[C]

Yeah, but the old man's cooked, bro.

[A]

Congratulations. You played.

[C]

We're moving on from the old man. Not you. Not you. The thing.

[A]

No, no, no. You can move on from me, too. See how you Guys.

[C]

Um, so, yeah, so the, the weekend was a very, you know, trumpy weekend. We had Don Lemon get out of jail. Anything else crazy from out the weekend though?

[A]

Well, I mean, no one got killed in the streets. Grammys, which you're going to do in the run.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[A]

So how many things from the Grammys should we stay away from at this point in the show so we don't ruin the rundown?

[C]

Why don't we just do the rundown early? Because I feel like that's going to set the tone.

[B]

Or, or you are live and direct from L. A. From Versus. You want to talk about that?

[A]

I mean, we can absolutely talk about versus. Are we ever going to do a versus recap again? Again? Will that ever happen again?

[C]

Maybe, maybe. I don't know. How do I, how do I. I don't know how much this is an awkward conversation because wasn't this, isn't this now a full on Apple event?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So how is Apple complex and versus? All right, so it's a combo.

[B]

I figure it out.

[C]

I guess the question is, did people care? I don't, I just don't know.

[A]

Seemingly it was number one on socials.

[C]

I mean, like, at the time, people cared. I was in a different time zone. I couldn't, it was the middle of the night for me.

[A]

So you didn't even see it.

[C]

I, when I, when I couldn't sleep at 5 in the morning in Riyadh, I went on and started watching a little bit of it.

[A]

By the way, if you missed it, Rosenberg was in Saudi Arabia.

[C]

I was in Saudi Arabia. And I, I, I turned it on and saw a couple of dope songs playing. I did not like the setup in the room at all.

[A]

You didn't?

[C]

No, not on tv. It was horrible.

[A]

Really.

[B]

I was annoyed at the crowd. The crowd, Wake up, wake up.

[C]

But that was my point. Was that the crowd or was that the setup? It felt like nothing. It felt like they were wandering around and no one was paying attention in the room.

[A]

It felt like it was the crowd.

[C]

It did.

[A]

And a lot of people just blamed Los Angeles.

[C]

That's not, that's not fair.

[A]

And I didn't think that was fair. But I think it was just more of an industry problem.

[B]

Yeah, you know, it was too cool.

[A]

Well, no, because the people who crowded to the front was the industry people.

[C]

How big was the room? How many people did it hold?

[A]

There's probably a couple hundred people in there.

[C]

I was only a couple hundred, though.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

So it's small to start out with.

[B]

It'S not a big, but more of a reason. You have fun.

[C]

I know. Yeah, but you're asking. That's an impossible ask. Now you're telling me there's a few hundred people and to get in there you had to know somebody.

[A]

Well, no, there was. There was. They wanted to have fans in there and what combo went. Too many industry people wanted to show.

[B]

Oh, God. To be a boring.

[C]

Yeah. But why? Why the room so small?

[A]

Why is it. Because it's just. That's the size of the room.

[B]

I mean, I'm not mad at the room. I just wish people had a. Had a better time, you know what I mean? I wanted some energy.

[C]

Yeah. It didn't, but the songs were. I was like, this is good. This is really as good A1 as you could hope for from a standpoint of music musicality. And the guests were dope. I mean, I only saw Big Sean, but he was dope. Who else showed up?

[A]

Big Sean, Juicy J, Ray Shrimmer. Ray Shrimmer was there.

[B]

Let me see. Those are the only features, right? Because I saw Chloe Bailey in there, but I think she was just hanging out.

[A]

Chloe was just hanging out, T. I was just hanging out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Who else was there?

[B]

I saw people.

[A]

It was a good time. I had a great time. I liked how it looked on television. I didn't like the crowd.

[B]

Same. I liked how it looked. Just. I wish the crowd was.

[C]

Well, the only other thing is, let me just say this about liking how it looked because the crowd isn't loud. I now don't like how it looks because there's mad people on stage. So I feel like there's more people on stage than there are in the crowd. That irritates.

[A]

Oh, when you talk about. Look, you're still talking about people, though. I'm talking about the setup.

[C]

Yeah. That's all I was really paying attention to. I was like, what's going on? Why? Who are they performing for? Because I couldn't help but be affected by that. I hear them saying crazy awesome stuff and the response is crickets.

[A]

Now, what does that have to do with the recap that I asked you about?

[C]

That's all I had. Oh, will we ever recap one again?

[A]

Because I was just talking about the music.

[C]

I mean, the music's amazing. I don't know. You guys tell me.

[A]

And then talking about who won and who lost. I think it's pretty unanimous that hit boy Mike will won this.

[C]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, I think that's pretty unanimous.

[C]

Well, I would be interested then to go through the Songs. Because that's an interesting breakdown.

[A]

Yeah, no, that's what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. And when you go through the catalogs of Mike Will and Hit Boy, it's. I mean, it was already a tough putt for Hit Boy. Mike Will's got some bangers. Hit Boy does, too, but he's gotta lay his out in a way to make sure he lands it right.

[C]

But the funny thing is, off the top of my head, I wouldn't be able to think of all the Mike Will bangers. I just have to hear them.

[B]

When you hear them, you're like, oh.

[C]

I know another one.

[A]

I gotta pour it up.

[C]

That's the first one I think of, though.

[A]

Bands of me cutting bands. You know, the future joint.

[C]

See, this is why it's hard for me to think of what they are. I just need to hear them.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Cause you know what I'm saying? You literally just made a bunch of noises. But you know that song when I hear it. No, we'll have maybe on Patreon this week. We'll go over it. Let me say this. This is what I meant to say. It doesn't feel like. Because we're out of the pandemic and it's a different time. I don't know if the urgency feels the same. When we were doing it in the first iteration, it was the only thing moving.

[B]

That's all we could do.

[C]

So the next morning, it was like, we don't hit this. We failed. Now I think it's, we don't fail if we don't do it. But we should, because it's good music.

[A]

Well, it's also Mike Will and Hit Bo. And if you love hip hop and you love what they contributed, and if you love music at a time where people ain't really listening to that much music is a celebration of music, which is good. And one of my biggest pet peeves right now. Cause even on this show, like you get on YouTube, you can't even play on the damn music. By the way, I got in this business for music. I like music. I don't know if you guys know this. I like playing music. I like listening to music. I wish more people listen to music. I'm into music.

[C]

People aren't here for the music anymore, bro. They just want to hear yo yos talk. What's music? If they wanted music, they could still listen to the radio. Although you could say the reason they don't listen to the radio is because the radio stop really playing music.

[A]

Right. Well, at least exposing you to music or Having some diverse taste. It that's been for a while.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. It really.

[A]

By the way, a lot of people still listen to music, of course. To the radio. Let's not. Let's not play that game.

[C]

Facts. I know. But they did. There was. The people used to overstate what radio did. However, the one thing that was always true is they did get to a point where they started spinning songs literally like 200 times a week, which means it's playing all day long.

[A]

Playing the Nielsen game.

[C]

Yeah, playing the Nielsen game. And that did. That does make an impact. So I don't know. It does feel like a lot of people don't listen to music. Like, it seems like all people do is watch yo yos talk about God.

[A]

Knows what things are not informed in this bubble. You gotta get out of this bubble. If you're on YouTube or in the podcast space or like what you do for a living, it's just yo yos talking.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

In. In my other here, I'm just. Now I'm just a yo yo talking.

[C]

Right. But in my other world, you're a yo yo talking. But people really there to hear the music.

[A]

No, I play music.

[C]

Right.

[A]

You tune into me at 3 o' clock every day. It's 90 music most of the time.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Like I'm playing classics, new stuff, talking about albums. Three o' clock. And it's free on Apple Music.

[C]

You should get why I Didn't Know.

[A]

App and you hit radio and it's free. 3:00 clock Eastern. Yeah.

[C]

No, people do like music. Music's good, man. Speaking of which, Rest in peace to Michael. 5,000 watts, man.

[A]

Listen, bro.

[C]

Does that was that a. That's a. That was a surprise. No, Yeah.

[A]

I don't. I didn't know that people knew that Swisher House founder Michael 5000 watts was sick or anything. I. I never heard that.

[C]

Yeah, that was. That was. Came out of nowhere.

[A]

But yeah, that. That happened over the weekend. So. Yeah. Rest in peace.

[C]

Yeah, they had. They added him to the. The thing last night.

[B]

Good, good, good.

[A]

Glad they got him in.

[C]

Did you guys watch the end? Did you see the whole thing?

[A]

I did not.

[C]

Y' all haven't seen it yet.

[A]

I saw the d' Angelo tribute.

[C]

You do?

[A]

So you did see it? Was that at the end?

[C]

Saw the whole thing?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I saw the whole thing, but I only saw it. I didn't stay up for it.

[C]

The d' Angelo tribute came after the Ozzy tribute.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Which was fire. But then the d' Angelo tribute, man, the two parts that really messed me up when Bilal came out and did Untitled.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Bilal is just someone who. Who is super important to that sect of music and culture, but doesn't get a lot of big out loud.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

In mainstream places. Praise. So to see. And he's so good and a contemporary of d', Angelo. So to hear him perfectly nail that was amazing. And then the other part that messed me up was when they played. They started doing Roberta Flack and they played Feels like making Love and had the picture of both of them up there. That sent me, bro.

[B]

I know.

[C]

And then Wyclef comes out and the John Forte picture goes up. I was like, oh, man, it was beautiful. It was really lovely.

[B]

It was great to see Lucky day. Rafael Sadiq. When I heard her say Rafael Sadiq, I was like, oh, my God.

[C]

It was really dope, man. I wonder if Questlove was, like, behind that. It was really. Well, whoever orchestrated that did a really good job making it all make sense. I could have dealt without the super spread. If I'm gonna nitpick, which is what I do.

[B]

Here we go. Here we go.

[C]

Why are you buzzing me here? We gotta hear it. If I'm gonna nitpick, which is what I do. I didn't need the sped up brown sugar. That bothered me. I didn't need that. I want some of your brown sugar. I don't know. Just. Brown sugar's a slow song. Let's.

[B]

I don't like anything sped up, so.

[C]

I have limited time.

[A]

I'm not into the sped up version.

[C]

Not brown sugar.

[A]

I wasn't gon. Cuz I'm not, you know, congratulations. You and critique these professionals at what they do, but I hate you.

[C]

It's more the decision on how we're going to do this beforehand. Everyone's actual execution and performance was great, but yeah, I don't need to sped up.

[B]

I chose to look past it, you know, just enjoy the rest of it.

[C]

That's me, Mr. Choose Not to look past it.

[A]

Well, look. Let me see. How do I h. What are you.

[C]

Looking to do, pal?

[A]

Hang on. Let's try something here.

[C]

Let me see something.

[A]

What's this it?

[C]

So far we got a buzz. All right, so far we have get ready for the rundown with Laura Styles.

[A]

Oh, that's all I got.

[C]

All right.

[A]

I don't have the. The official beat, though.

[C]

You don't? You've been sent that.

[A]

I don't have. It's not.

[C]

We already heard about Run. You know, we already heard this.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Do you want. Do you want the rundown? Is that the point?

[A]

Do you have it? No, no.

[C]

Do you want to actually start the rundown?

[A]

Yeah, that's why I hit it. It's 8. 27.

[C]

Okay. Yeah, I don't have. I don't have it.

[B]

Oh, all right.

[C]

I mean, I do, but how am I gonna put. You want to give it to me? I can play.

[B]

It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. We can figure it out.

[C]

No, I. I have it, but I have it. I have the rundown beat. Oh, here we go. Here we go.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

You want me to plug in and play? Just playing my thing.

[A]

Oh, yeah, go ahead. Plug in and play.

[C]

But you got to make sure it doesn't buzz up.

[A]

All right, go ahead.

[C]

He says I have a wireless. He says I'm plugged in. Hold on. Take the case off. Take the condom off. Let's go, Raw Dog. Here we go. Let's see if it works, folks.

[B]

All right.

[C]

Screens on Glow when she pulls up.

[A]

Headlines heavy, but we still caught up. Light still flashing.

[C]

We don't slow up, but this one doesn't have the beat coming back, so it's always. It's always something, man.

[A]

What were you guys doing all weekend? You're flying in from Saudi Arabia. Rahaan's not paying attention to the taxi.

[C]

I don't know if I'd say that.

[A]

I'm at Disney on Ice. You know what I'm saying? I take your family to Disney.

[C]

Yeah, you were busy taking my family to Disney on Ice.

[A]

I mean, but you couldn't be ready for the show.

[B]

All right.

[C]

I thought I did pretty good.

[B]

All right, so the Grammys went down, guys. Trevor Noah returned. It was his. It's his six time Rosenberg.

[C]

I thought it was like four, six too many.

[B]

Yes, well, this was.

[A]

Yo, why are you trashing my guy Trevor? I like Trevor.

[C]

Not a fan.

[B]

I like him. I think he's cool, but I just. I didn't know he had been hosting for.

[C]

I like him as a guy. I like. I like that he exists in the world as a. A host, man. I just don't know what we're going.

[A]

He does a good job.

[C]

No, it feels like.

[A]

What are you looking for?

[C]

It's like every. His cadence is always like, is this a joke?

[A]

Shut up.

[C]

Where are we going?

[A]

Shut up.

[C]

You didn't even want.

[A]

You know, by the way, I did watch.

[C]

Did you?

[A]

I did.

[C]

He takes in things for like two seconds, and you go, this is my version of comedic.

[B]

Remember that? He really likes Trevor Noah, he likes.

[C]

A lot of things that are not funny.

[A]

I like Trevor Noah. He's a nice guy. I think he does a great job. For a super mainstream show that's fan, family oriented. You're looking for. What are you looking for? Louis ck? What are you looking for? What are you looking for?

[C]

Have I ever expressed. Have I ever expressed?

[A]

Andrew Dice Clay to host the Grammys?

[C]

Andrew Dice Clay. Is that where you're going? There were very mainstream people who were way better. Like, when we were in, like, the Billy Crystal era. The. Like, there were people who were. Don't f. Out of here. Billy Crystal.

[A]

I love Billy Crystal. But he's. You're acting like he was more edgy.

[C]

I don't know. I don't want edgy. I don't want edgy. I want funny. I don't want, like, you walk around in front of the people and they all look awkwardly scared, like weird farm animals. It didn't work. It just was.

[B]

Everybody does that.

[C]

No, that's. That was the Grammys thing. To walk around in front of the crowd.

[A]

That's what I mean. I'm not the setup.

[C]

That's. Listen, he's your friend.

[B]

All right? All right.

[C]

He's a nice guy. I like this book. I like what he stands for. I don't like him as a host. And he's not glad that it's over.

[B]

He's not coming back. So you guys are good guys. He's not coming back.

[C]

Yo. We are. This is the wussification of America. This is the same thing as our Jay Z combo. Why you hate Trevor Noah? I don't hate Trevor Noah. I just didn't like him as a hoes. That makes me.

[B]

And that's fine.

[C]

I'm the only one who's like, all right, man.

[B]

All right, guys. Our guy. Our Bad Bunny. One album of the year.

[A]

Coming back to that. We're coming back to that. Would you like to hear what Bad Bunny had to say when he got that?

[B]

Yes, go ahead. Hit me with it.

[A]

Before I say thanks to God. I'm gonna say eyes out.

[C]

Which matched the pin everyone was wearing.

[B]

First fully Spanish album to win a Grammy.

[A]

What are you doing?

[B]

Wrong drop. Wrong drop.

[A]

I meant to hit this, and I say it based on facts. Savage. We're not animals. We're not aliens. We are humans, and we are Americans.

[C]

Love that line.

[A]

Also, I want to say to the people, I know it's. It's tough to know not to hate on these days. And I was thinking, sometime we get contaminados. I don't know how to say that.

[C]

Contaminated. I figured. I figured it out.

[A]

My Spanish was great. I picked that up. The hate get more powerful with more hate. The only thing that is more powerful than hate is love. So, please, we need to be different. If we fight, we have to do it with love. There you go. Bad Bunny.

[B]

Oh, man. Yo, when he sat there and he, they. They announced him and he was. Tears coming down, I was. I wanted to jump through the screen, Rosenberg, and give him a big hug.

[C]

I was like, yeah, he was. He was. He was really good. Yeah, it felt really sincere. It was a lovely moment.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, I think you.

[B]

I think, walked away with three.

[A]

Do people realize.

[C]

Putting album of the year. It's crazy.

[A]

Do people realize that this album from Bad Bunny and where Bad Bunny is at in his career, the spotlight that's on him for what he's talking about, the. I mean, the accomplishment you just mentioned. Absolutely. All Spanish album to win album of the year. At a time when what's going on in the country is crazy like that, that's an overwhelming amount of spotlight pressure, you know, for one person. Like when, like. So for him to kind of, you know, like you said, Lor Styles, he's just kind of there. And he was overwhelmed with emotion when he went up for album of the year. For that to be happening, you know, you gotta give Bad Bunny some grace. And then this is a week out from the Super Bowl.

[C]

I love that he still did it. Showed up, said something. All these eyeballs on him. People are ready to fry him.

[B]

And he stays on message. He does not shy. He does not shy away. Think about it, guys. A couple years ago, he led one of the biggest protests in Puerto Rico.

[A]

I'm glad you brought that up, Laura, because I kind of curved around bringing that up. Are people aware. Well, no, not that portion, but are people aware that there are politicians in Puerto Rico, politicians who serve Puerto Rican constituencies who are Republican? They hate Bad Bunny.

[B]

Oh, yeah. They hate Bad Bunny because he's proven to be more powerful than they are.

[A]

Than they are. They want.

[C]

And he's a big time progressive during.

[B]

What was his name? Ricky Rosello.

[A]

That.

[B]

That was the guy that they were trying to get out or they got out. Actually, it was him. Residente and Ricky Martin. Only ones who dropped what they were doing to go to Puerto Rico and lead one of the biggest protests they've ever had. So cool for change and never stopped.

[C]

Well, guess what? Now we have the rest of America coming after him starting next Monday. Because I don't think he's going to hold back on Sunday.

[B]

I don't think so either, so.

[A]

Well, he doesn't really. I don't think he really has to do anything other than what he's been doing.

[C]

That's exactly right. Even if he does nothing. Like, even if he just does Bad Bunnies.

[A]

Because, you know, his show, his. His show in Puerto Rico that we went to. Can you imagine how America is going to feel if the first thing they see is African drumming at the Super Bowl?

[C]

You don't think they'll like it.

[B]

Why all the santeros in white?

[C]

You meant that to be an F out of here. F out here or the bump. You meant the bomb.

[A]

I meant the bomb because they play. It's Bombay playing. They playing the bomba. When they play the drums, man, they call it Bombay Plana or Bombay. And then there's Plana. But a black man playing drums. I. I hope that's what happens. I hope it's. I hope he does exactly what he does.

[B]

He's bringing La Casita. Will. You know.

[A]

I know. You know, I don't know. I really have no.

[C]

I wonder if he does bring the little house.

[A]

No, I really don't. I have no idea.

[C]

It's gonna be turned up from what that is. I mean, of course, because that's. Honestly, his live show, while very cool, is almost somewhat scaled back. It's not like an insane. Yeah, it's a cool set, but it's not insane. Super Bowls always, you know. Yeah, that's. We're. We're going to D.C. this weekend.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And we were talking about our plans back and like, I know this won't go over well. At my other job, I dead ass was like, well, as long as we just get back by halftime. I do not care about seeing the start of Seattle, New England. Like, I. I can listen in the car and hear what's happening as long.

[A]

As I'm in front of the TV for the close. Halftime. To the close.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. And I do want to see the second half from halftime on. I need to see it. But really, the halftime thing is important.

[A]

So are you. When they ask you if they're listening right now or watching right now. Anybody from ESPN New York?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

What do you. How are you going to change it to do the dance?

[C]

Oh, not. No, they know I'm not interested in the Super Bowl. Everyone knows. I think the Super Bowls. I mean, I'm going to listen in the car. I need to know what's happening. But I'm saying, like, I don't care so much about. There's no one playing in this.

[A]

You don't want to see New England win.

[C]

No, and I'd like to see Sam Darnold play.

[A]

Well, there you go.

[C]

But I don't need to, like, watch every player. I'm going to, like, be sad. It's not like one of those you.

[B]

Just care to see, baby.

[A]

I thought you was gonna get to ESPN New York and do the dance. I thought you was gonna get over there, like, I can't wait for the Super Bowl.

[C]

No, I don't do it.

[A]

Come.

[C]

I don't do that dance. I do some dances. I can only dance so much.

[A]

Sam Darnold.

[C]

No, I'm not that hyped.

[A]

Brable. Let's go.

[C]

Are you gonna want. Well, you're gonna be at the game, right?

[A]

Yeah, I'll be there.

[C]

Are you gonna pay attention to the game or not?

[A]

Yeah, I pay attention. I'll watch.

[C]

You'll sit down and I watch.

[A]

I watch. I mean, I'm there, so, you know, I'm sitting here, I'm watching. I have a beverage.

[B]

What was the last football game you were at?

[C]

Super Bowl. Yo, he only goes to the Super Bowl. You know how insane that is? No, no, no. Hold on, hold on. Do you understand how bougie this dude only. Hold on. He only watches the Super Bowl. Hold on. He only watches the super bowl and he only watches in person. That's the only game this guy goes to or watches is the suit. Yo, he is like your worst girlfriend, except they go to the super bowl every year. Like, your girlfriend is like, oh, we have to watch. And then she's like, oh, by the way, I'll be in a box of the super bowl every year, right? That's bananas.

[A]

Yo, and I hear these. Listen, last year we were in New Orleans, right? I mean, listen, all due respect, I love the city of New Orleans, but we gotta talk about the Superdome.

[C]

Oh, it's old.

[B]

I've never been so.

[A]

I don't know, man. It is.

[C]

It's washed.

[B]

I like it.

[C]

I just like the vibe of being there. But it's. It's old.

[A]

No, no, I love. I love the setup. I love how you move around it. There's so much. But just audio, video, the boxes, the, the. Just the, the, the.

[C]

The.

[A]

The Concord. It's just not. No, it's just not upgraded.

[C]

No, this new place is. This is. This is the Levi Stadium.

[A]

This is one of the more recent ones, I think. Only thing newer is what?

[C]

So far, yeah, there's Only a few.

[B]

Oh, it's gonna be fire.

[C]

Did you. Did you finish, by the way, the. The rundown?

[B]

No, we just kind of went in.

[A]

Start the intro.

[B]

I do want. You do not have to start the intro. It's fine.

[A]

Just talk like the intro. Why you guys want to hear?

[B]

Can send love to our girl Kehlani.

[C]

Yes, absolutely.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

First two Grammys for best R B performance and best R B song for folding. We actually have audio that everybody is so powerful in this room and in this room later. And together, we're stronger in numbers to speak against all the injustices. Justice going on in the world right now. Yeah. So instead of letting it be just a couple few here and there, I hope everybody's inspired to join together as a community of artists and speak out against what's going on. And I'mma leave this and say, Ice.

[A]

Yeah, kid.

[C]

I mean, you knew it. You knew she got. You knew she was going to get the ball rolling with the Fi situation.

[A]

Well, and. And never forget what over Kehlani just overcame in the last two years. They was canceling Kay trying to cancel out here for our music video where she had Palestinian flags. And then they were canceling Con. They canceled their Central park summer stage on the heels of all that still came Back around, had a number one record. Still came back around, won all these Grammys.

[C]

Well, it's also. It does reinforce my big point, which is even when it comes to the most cancelable subject, Israel, etc. People still don't get canceled.

[A]

It's just not some do.

[B]

I mean.

[C]

No, no. We got canceled. When you are working for an employer that can go, we turn off your mic. When you're an artist and you create. Maybe who got canceled?

[A]

It may be. I don't know, even.

[C]

Even Yay didn't get canceled. His stuff got crappy and bad and no one.

[A]

But it depends. Like, Yay's different, though, because he was already Kanye.

[C]

Right.

[A]

But.

[C]

But if you're at that level and Kehlani wasn't. Not at that level.

[A]

No.

[C]

Not at a big level. Not that level.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

She's only gotten bigger over the last couple years, but that's what.

[B]

She lost some money, lost some opportunities.

[A]

But people rallied for her, though.

[C]

Well, true.

[A]

People rallied for.

[C]

And then she came with.

[A]

Folded and she came with fire.

[C]

You come with. You come with your. You do what you're doing, and you do it well.

[A]

And I don't think it's as easy as just going. It's. You're not cancelable. It's I don't think it's that easy.

[C]

I'm just saying I find the notion of canceled to be a sort of made up.

[A]

We're not canceled either. We're sitting right here. There's mad people watching right now.

[B]

Guys, let's be real. Who really got canceled?

[A]

We haven't made any money though.

[C]

But so we're kind of cancel.

[A]

We gotta cancel.

[B]

Pockets are canceled.

[C]

Yeah, pockets got canceled. I'm just saying, like it's just such an over. In the case of Kehlani, she probably dealt with more than anyone else had to. Like she dealt with a lot, knows a lot.

[A]

And even that in the end I think. No, well, no, wait, hang on. There were reports of people getting dropped from agencies, not being able to get jobs in Hollywood for speaking out against his. That was a thing.

[C]

I'd like to know who they are.

[A]

There was a whole list. There was articles.

[C]

Let's see. Let's see if they were some Google. Let's see if there were people who were getting jobs previously and stopped getting jobs.

[B]

Because that's what I'm saying. I just feel like cancel. Being canceled is not real, guys.

[C]

I just don't think it's fully.

[A]

Listen, I can't go that far. I can't walk that walk with you.

[B]

No, who actually got canceled?

[C]

They disappeared. They stopped doing anything and they were really big before. Now what you're saying. Here's what I think the nuance is. You're not that big yet and you're at a big agency and you taking a stand, that's as bold as being anti Israel could make them not interested in you or drop you at your agency. That could happen.

[A]

But that's canceled.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or let's just say you've plateaued as an artist and maybe you aren't in your highlight or twilight. Twilight.

[C]

No, you're in your twilight.

[A]

You're no longer in the boom and you get dropped and people don't want to work with you because of something you said in support of Palestinians against Israel. Right. Like we can't sit here and act like speaking out against Israel isn't dangerous.

[C]

Not doing it that we're not. But we're also not going to pretend that it's ending people's everything. Right.

[A]

Sometimes it can.

[C]

I just want the example.

[B]

I think it ends. It ends certain opportunities.

[C]

Lots of things do. I mean, Diddy's more. Diddy will get you canceled maybe right now.

[A]

What do you mean Diddy will get.

[C]

Like being Diddy, doing what Diddy did, harming people physically and having crazed orgies that the whole world hears about.

[B]

People will come out and people will.

[A]

Still support based on what's going on. If you're. If you're black and you've harmed people, you're in jail. If you're white and associated with Israel and the Mossad, you going to get offed. I mean, I've seen you might. Well, Weinstein went to jail and Weinstein went to jail. Yeah, but Trump's chilling.

[C]

You can't just say white. The Trump's orange. It's a different thing. No, being orange will have you different out here. You the Teflon Don. I mean, we haven't even talked about the Epstein files. No matter what is there, people keep sending stuff like, up, here we go.

[A]

I'm like, well, and we do got to talk about Jay Z and Push, his name. Trying to be tied into this whole thing.

[C]

Yeah, you know, I knew you wouldn't mention that because you're scared. You want to go with Nicki Minaj, but you don't want to talk about the real criminals in the Epstein files. Says me. Psycho. Barb423.

[B]

All right, all right, all right.

[A]

No, but.

[B]

All right.

[A]

But I guess the way I understand it is Jay Z and Push's names were mentioned in a FBI tip line.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Not in the Epstein file.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

They had no correspondence. There's not a thousand emails between Jay Z and Epstein or Push on Epstein. That's not a thing. And technically, this FBI tip line is not even the Epstein file.

[B]

Guys. It was. Somebody called in and made these accusations.

[A]

In 2019, by the way.

[B]

Yes, but by the way, it was never investigated. It was just. They, they. I have my own theories on how all of a sudden it's like Jay Z and Pusha. That's why I was like, let me.

[A]

Oh, you.

[B]

Kendrick is going to be part of this, too.

[C]

But he wasn't. Right.

[B]

But he wasn't.

[C]

But. But it wouldn't have been shocking. I hear what you're saying. I hear what you're going.

[B]

Yes, yes, but there was no evidence, no charges, and nothing.

[C]

But we have to.

[A]

Are you guys saying there's some sort of, like, Internet. These are Internet.

[C]

Or like, you know, just people who felt a certain way. You're saying it's people with an axe to grind.

[A]

Oh, you said axe.

[C]

An axe. Oh. But here's where we have to be fair about the Epstein files. This is where what's good for the goose is good for the gander. The Epstein. Your name appearing in the Epstein files is not the be all, end all. It's just not. And so that. That goes both ways.

[A]

I don't think they are in the Epstein files. I think that's the point. They're not in Epstein's files where they corresponded with Epstein were on a flight.

[C]

Log, but it came out in the dump.

[A]

But in a dump from the government. But they were a part of an FBI tip line. I think Laura's saying that they dumped that stuff in there as a distraction maybe from the actual files. Because the files are egregious. The correspond. Like, what's the woman? Barry Weiss? Her. Her wife, the head of CBS.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Her wife has 1,000 correspondence with Jeffrey Epstein.

[C]

So you're saying that's different than your name being mentioned once. Yes, exactly. Totally agree with that. But we also have to remember there are sometimes things get mentioned there. When you go read what it was, you realize that what it was is someone said to someone this thing, and now that thing is in there, but it is like, just hearsay. And we're like, this is enough to end the person. I'm like, no, it's not. That's one person who said it to one person. Now, I'm not talking about someone like Trump who has tons of stuff in there, and we know he's close with Epstein, but there are other people who you hear get thrown into. And I'm like, bro, just because they got mentioned.

[A]

Or Prince Andrew, who. They got photos of him.

[C]

Well, you know, listen, Prince Andrew's one of the. Prince Andrew Clinton, Hillary Trump. Well, but I think Hillary. I mean, then there's a hard part of. Like, you were friends with these people. I don't think Hillary was hanging out while orgies were going on. Sorry, I don't.

[A]

You don't think she was going.

[C]

Not the vibe I get from Hillary. Not the vibe I get that Hillary's like, oh, yeah, Bill, let's get into it. They got chicks today. I don't know. So I do think there was multiple things going on at one time, and that's complicated for people to understand.

[B]

Yeah, but when it comes to this, guys, it was a tip line. It says Jay Z and Pusha T. Their names appear simply because the FBI kept a record of the public tip line that has now been unsealed and is.

[C]

So anyone could have made the tip, is what we're saying.

[B]

Anyone.

[C]

The timeline didn't even make sense, did it?

[A]

No. So the. The allegation against Jay Z was 1996, when his first album came out.

[C]

Sorry. He didn't know Harvey Weinstein in 1996, he didn't. Now we do. Jay Z was friends with Harvey Weinstein at some point or work associates. He produced. They produced films together. Like that did happen later. But in 1996, Jay Z wasn't at any of these things. But that's Pusha. And how. But this is back to the point of sort of what can end up bothering me. You have to remember if Jeffrey Epstein is who we think he is, which is likely some sort of like Mossad agent who Israel was using to gather information on powerful people so they could get whatever they want done, which they've been successful, which they've obviously did. I don't know if you know, like. And that's the other part. You have to know. Israel isn't shy about the fact that they are down to do crazy things to get what they need done. That's one of the things people admire about Israel, their military and their operations and the things that they do to protect themselves is some deep Ish. If that's what Jeffrey Epstein was. You realize that he's intentionally. In those emails, you can see him trying to get people caught up.

[A]

Yeah, he's fishing.

[C]

That's what his. But that's what his job was, was to be a fish.

[A]

That's right.

[C]

His job. Now you had to be a real scumbag to end up getting hooked by that fish. Because what he was using as bait was often underage kids. But you have to know that a lot of those emails were like Epstein said, to so and so X, Y and Z in an email. He wanted those things in the email. He was. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

His point was to have emails and.

[A]

He knew his emails were being watched.

[C]

And he knew the emails were eventually getting. You can just read it that way. You can be like, oh, he's.

[A]

This may be true, but that does not excuse all of that being facts. That does not excuse the. The pedophilia, the abuse, the murder and everything that definitely took place.

[C]

Well, absolutely not. It does, but the opposite.

[A]

I had to say it. Yeah.

[C]

Because they're all going. Trying to think that it's fine.

[A]

Yeah, no, it's all good. But you also have to realize right now we're saying, talking about a file chocked full of murder and abuse of young girls, young boys. Yes, right. And the trafficking of children. And we have begun to talk about it like it was last. It was last night's Knicks Lakers game.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

That's dangerous.

[C]

Yeah, it is.

[A]

That's dangerous. Like it's like, if you really think about how, like, regular it's become, well.

[C]

That'S also because, again, the meaning of it is lost. That's sort of part of what are the. Some of the context I'm trying to give of. It's not to get rid of the terrible stuff that's in there and how we are basically learning from this, that people who are admired and powerful and important in America were a part of horrible abuse of children, potentially murder and snuff films and rape and all the worst things. But the way it's been handled now has been tossed into this huge conversation.

[A]

That's what they're trying to do.

[C]

That's meaningless.

[A]

That's what they're trying to do. I believe that the. I believe all this whole treasure trove of 3 million docs and all of that, and kind of. It's kind of like a hiding in plain sight kind of thing, right? Where everyone is basically losing the plot, not knowing who is behind this, not paying attention to who's. And then on top of it, not even knowing what the recourse is. What actually happens now.

[B]

Now. But to Rosenberg. Rosenberg's point, it's all done on purpose, guys.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Everything is done on purpose to desensitize us. Now you want to hit a low down real quick because, I mean, we can start dancing.

[C]

No, it's not the low down.

[B]

It's not my lowdown.

[C]

That's not the low down.

[A]

Soften the blow. Oh, that's what I mean. Start dancing.

[C]

I don't consider that dancing. I'm not going to this. I don't know what dance we're doing.

[B]

I don't either. I just want the low down.

[C]

You want.

[A]

I don't even have the low down, so I hit the dance. So that was really my cover. Oh, we just not prepared.

[C]

All right, well, good.

[A]

I didn't have that stuff. And nobody sent it over.

[C]

Over the hot rod Rick.

[A]

I don't have it.

[C]

Your favorite.

[A]

That's. That's the hottest piece we got hot.

[C]

I'll see what I can do.

[B]

In the mean, that's a hot rod Rick. Guys, I'm just going through Nikki's tweets. Nicki Minaj unraveled.

[A]

You know why?

[B]

On Twitter.

[A]

You know why? First you got to hit this. Ah, I can't believe it. This is what Rosenberg's favorite host and Phineas. The most talented siblings in the world are here, people.

[C]

Every other parent is like, what are my kids doing?

[A]

Nothing with this. Their lives. We got John Legend in the House. Oh, man.

[C]

Every single person here.

[A]

John Legend, Billy Eilish, Phineas. Nicki Minaj is not here. She is not here.

[C]

Here's the hard part. It's that. Hear that cheering.

[A]

Happy. She's not there. She is still at the White House with Donald Trump discussing very important issues. Actually, Nikki, I have the biggest ass.

[C]

I have it. Everybody's saying it, Nikki, I know they say it's you, but it's me.

[A]

Look at it. Look at it, baby.

[B]

Oh, God.

[C]

I just didn't love the go home of the joke. This feels like there were so many options. Well, just the ass part. I was like, there was so much. There was so much in there.

[A]

Now, if we're being honest, if you've ever seen photos of Donald Trump.

[C]

Oh, he's got a big ass. No, man has a huge ass. There's no question. That part is. You're right. Pointing that out is worthwhile. Yeah, it's worth note. Now he's got a dunk. What you're saying.

[A]

No, I didn't say that.

[B]

That.

[A]

You said that.

[C]

You brought up. But you brought.

[A]

I just. I was literally The. The. The amount of backside. But no, it's big.

[C]

It's big out here.

[A]

You checked it out before. You can't miss it.

[C]

You were like, hold on, hold on. What is that?

[A]

I was literally like, hold on, hold on.

[C]

My man's got it. Whoa.

[B]

Anyway, yeah, so she. She posted. She posted a picture of Jay Z with Aaliyah and Jay Z and Beyonce, and she put. Put age 26 for HOV and age 15.

[C]

Did the math wrong, but keep going.

[B]

And then did the same thing with Beyonce and put her as a 16 year old, but listen to how wild this is. Are y' all understanding that these people have been sacrificing children as a way of gaining and maintaining power? If you ever vote Democrat again.

[C]

No, no. If you ever vote. Read it closer.

[B]

Oh, demon crack. Excuse me? It's demon crap. You're soulless demons, and you're as soulless as they are and will perish. Maybe it's time for me to do some story time, since I was trying not to say what I know. Yet they continue to attempt bullying also.

[C]

They bully.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[A]

So wait. I'm sorry. I've had enough.

[C]

Put down the cocaine, ma'. Am.

[A]

Wait, so Aaliyah passed when she was 22. You said she was doing the math wrong. Aaliyah passed 2001.

[C]

Yeah, she was. She was.

[A]

I just googled that.

[C]

So, yeah, she was 17 and 96. She wasn't 15. 15.

[A]

But I'm just saying right now, today she would be how old? 51.

[C]

No, no, no. I think she's my age. Ish. Yeah, she's my age. Exactly. Ms. Should be 46.

[A]

46. 46. 46. How old? And, and Beyonce's how old does it.

[C]

44.

[B]

44.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

You don't want to hear about. She's talking about your favorite artist has been practicing rituals in a satanic cult. You don't hear about the take babies from other countries and mutilate and kill them.

[C]

Oh, that's what. So she's so that's what so is this part of the setup to the eventual cleanup is she lost her mind because now she can. Now the stuff can be crazy enough that she can go see, look at me. I was clearly not well. Is that where we're going here?

[A]

Well, so back to that. This her saying that just takes me back to the people she was just hanging out with.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

No, not that me, bro. Not them.

[A]

No, no, but our favorite artist. But you was just at with Trump and them there all weekend.

[C]

She went to a wedding.

[A]

Their names are in and literally documentation of people, not a person.

[C]

Ebro.

[A]

I've heard multiple people, multiple people saying that Donald Trump was abusing, sexually abusing children. Not one person, not two people. Many people.

[C]

I've heard the audio of him saying to a 11 year old girl, in 10 years, I might date you. I've heard him say that if his daughter wasn't his daughter, he would date her. I've heard it. They don't care.

[A]

They.

[C]

They're psycho. She's making whatever she wants.

[A]

I understand, I understand. I just needed to say it.

[C]

No, you have to say it.

[A]

Say it because I just saw you hanging out with people who have documented out.

[C]

That's her home now, though. Those are her people.

[B]

That doesn't matter. You bro.

[A]

No, I understand it doesn't matter, but it matters to me, you know.

[C]

Why are you worried about Yo Hebros. Hit Hebrew with the button.

[A]

Congratulations. You played yourself.

[C]

You stay worrying about truth and facts. I don't know what you're doing. The one, my one disappointment from the weekend. There's a couple things we still got to get to before the show's over. Number one, Cardi was awesome on snl.

[A]

I saw it. It was incredible.

[C]

The one disappointment I have is I wonder if they said to her, do you want to play Nicki Minaj in our opening scene? Because that didn't cross their mind as the biggest because they ended up Doing an opening with Pete Davidson playing Holman. And it was. It was fine. But, like, the biggest thing moving last week was Nicki Minaj at the White House.

[A]

And I'm glad she didn't.

[C]

I am not.

[A]

I would tell you. I'm glad for her just to stay away.

[C]

Just to stay away.

[A]

Because right now, Cardi is. She's about to go on tour. She had the SNL moment.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

She's got. Her tour starts in like, a few weeks. Sales are great. Great. She's not mentioning any of that. And she can move. She's got her. Her husband's in the Super Bowl.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Her, like, wow.

[C]

Listen, bro, you're not talking much.

[B]

Positive things happening.

[C]

No, you're not. No.

[A]

You were only thinking about yourself. Like, how good it was actually thinking about Cardi.

[C]

Like, it would have just been funny. Like, they just.

[A]

I'm not like you. I don't just think about myself.

[B]

Oh, my.

[C]

No. I just. Spiking the football. It's not just myself. I want to see Nikki suffer publicly. I want to. I want to see some time here.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I want Cardi to spike the football. Wait, why Spike.

[A]

Why do you.

[C]

Because Nikki's a horrible person and she's showing. You've been waiting for. No, only the last week prior this. I just thought she was like an a hole. Now I see. Oh, you're willing while the country. You are willing right now. Yo, bro, there's different times to get down with this whole thing. The time that she chose to get down with this is the most wicked time you could have ever chose. So I was just here because Cardi's a good person. And you're right. You are correct. She made the right choice. I just couldn't help but think about what a football spike it would have been. But either way, it was a football spike. Because while you're here unraveling, you're some weirdo Republican deep right, deep state lunatic wedding on Saturday. She was ho. She was the musical performer on snl. Crushing it.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

And amazing.

[C]

And while. And while the whole audience at the Grammys cheered that you weren't there.

[A]

Can we isolate Trevor nor.

[C]

Just saying Nicki Minaj is not here tonight. In the cheer.

[A]

In the cheer.

[C]

Because that is, you know, that. That Laura. That's what center. She stayed off Twitter for a while. That's what center. Oh, and she said something homophobic about Trevor Noah, too. Do you see that?

[B]

Yeah, I think so. Yep. Yeah.

[C]

She basically said, Trevor Noah's gay. Everyone knows his boyfriend, but he's not out of the closet. She also doubled down on the homophobia against Don Lemon when she went on evil maniacal white supremacist Stephen Miller's wife Katie Miller's talk show on there. She was extra homophobic towards Don Lemon. It's crazy. That homophobia, of all things, has been her like bread and butter right now. Now, that's crazy to me.

[B]

But what's crazier is how, like, listen, I know it's just comments, but people are like, I don't care. I don't care. I'll still support her. I still love.

[A]

Not enough, I got to tell you.

[C]

Not enough to maintain it.

[A]

You mean n. It's not enough. I mean, the way to bar.

[C]

You're coming around, cuz. You didn't you ask early if we thought this would affect her? You think this is really going to take her down?

[A]

Well, I don't know if it'll. I think people will still hate listening to the album. That's what I said. If put out an album right now, I think people will go listen and it will be told. Talked about.

[C]

But you think it is hurting her?

[A]

Well, I just tell. I could tell by the barbs that y' all not.

[C]

The energy's not.

[A]

Yo, the El Army. If you're in the El army on my socials, yo, I was never sure that we would have a squad that could stand next to the bar.

[C]

Are they fighting?

[A]

I mean, a couple of people in the Ell army was given the shellac.

[C]

They were back. They were fighting back.

[A]

What? It's crazy.

[C]

I love to see that, by the way.

[A]

I only got two people, but still.

[C]

No, I need those two. Can they come to mind, too?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I support you. El army is for the whole squad because the.

[C]

Because the barbs are good at finding a message about their leader, but they're weak now. They are. They do feel weakened.

[A]

It's weak. And even the ovo hoes ain't really rocking like they were.

[C]

Really?

[A]

Yeah, they was rocking for a minute.

[C]

Speaking of. Then here they come.

[B]

All right.

[C]

The ovo Hos just showed up, yo. They infiltrated our whole thing.

[A]

The whole thing.

[C]

Speaking of the OVO Hos, though, the other things I wanted to mention from last night, Tyler the creator's performance was awesome. You saw that?

[A]

Never disappoints.

[C]

No, that was next level, though. Tyler just. Man, I'm so proud of that guy. It was amazing. And Kendrick sets the record for all time rap Grammys.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

That's when he's saying Kendrick opens his Mouth.

[C]

No, we do have to give Drake credit for that line. He was right.

[A]

That was a line, right.

[C]

No, when Kendrick opens his mouth, they give him a Grammy. It's a fact. He set the record already. He's young in his career. It's early.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He officially surpassed Jay Z where's he had 25.

[A]

And let's be clear. When we, when we. When we throw out these accolades and we say these things, it happens because of the people that set a standard before you got there. And because as the voting, the hip hop voting inside the Grammys matures, like, if you really get to understand how the Grammys works, right, if you're, you know, a voter and you're have produced a record or written a record or engineered a hip hop record and you're voting on these hip hop records. Records, the people in there actually care about hip hop enough to make sure that these representations happen. Like, that's important. I think that's an important piece of understanding how the Grammys works, is that there are people in there voting for R B and hip hop and black music that care enough to make sure that a. The artists that are really putting forward great art and great music get support.

[C]

Yeah, you're 100% correct.

[A]

And thoughtfulness. Right? Like, that's. I think. I don't want to. I don't want that missed.

[C]

No, that's true. But the three people all time who feel like they've been properly awarded in that category, it's Jay Z, Eminem and Kendrick. They listen. I think between them, it's like 70 or something like that. Or close to it.

[A]

That's what you want to see. True. Yeah. That beep was the power going out on his iPad. Because in our.

[C]

The OVO host came.

[A]

The OVO host came. And more importantly, just as a, As a. As a team, we are not where we need to be yet with like, you know, making sure iPads are charged before the show, you know, making sure audio and video is loaded. You know, I mean, little things like that.

[C]

I. Well, we're gonna get there, though.

[A]

You think so?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

We have plans.

[C]

Yes. I didn't even know we were jumping on live this. This fast. I thought we had a whole other week before we're gonna be live.

[A]

Why would we wait a whole nother week?

[C]

Because you're leaving town.

[A]

Yeah, I gotta travel to super bowl, but I figured we'd jump on live.

[B]

I'm gonna be at the Super Bowl.

[A]

Listen, are you guys mad? I have a job that can help us put the studio together. Is that what you guys are mad about?

[C]

No. Mad that you go to the super bowl every year, don't invite us one time.

[A]

You think I have extra tickets to the Super Bowl?

[C]

I'm happy.

[A]

I think me, as an employee of the company that's sponsoring and, and, and, and supporting the Super Bowl. Presenting the Super Bowl. The halftime. Yeah. Not even the whole thing. Just a half.

[C]

Oh, yeah. You're not the whole thing.

[A]

You think I have the ability to invite people? I'm happy my key card still works with all the ishouts talk.

[C]

True. I, I.

[B]

Very true.

[C]

I have to really think about whether I think you get away with inviting someone. I think you could bring your lady.

[A]

You think? Yes to the game. No to the game.

[C]

The suite is that tight.

[A]

No way to the game.

[C]

They treat that suite like what?

[A]

Come on, man. You know. Yo. It's hard as a regular human being to get in the Super Bowl.

[C]

Very hard. You're not a regular human being. Most regular human beings watch football every week and don't go to the Super Bowl. You watch no football and only go to the Super Bowl. So apparently you're not a regular person. Right.

[A]

But once I go beyond my. My person and I go to the next person.

[C]

Yeah. No, that is when it always gets hard.

[A]

It's hard, man.

[C]

It's hard.

[B]

What are you doing?

[A]

Are you bringing. You bringing your wife to work? You don't get to bring your wife to work. I don't.

[C]

She never asked.

[A]

No.

[C]

She doesn't want to go to the Super Bowl?

[A]

I don't think so. I'll ask her. You want me to ask?

[C]

What if her team was playing?

[A]

You want to go to the Super Bowl?

[C]

What if her team was playing?

[A]

She doesn't. I don't even think she has a team.

[B]

You don't think she cares?

[C]

I think you know she did.

[A]

No, she's never. She doesn't. She doesn't.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

She's never said, this is my team. In any sport.

[C]

In any sport.

[A]

In any sport.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

All right, guys, it's been fun.

[A]

She's more. She wants to talk about rap. That's what jazz.

[C]

She likes that rap talk.

[A]

What?

[C]

She wants to go to the verses, though. She might want to go to a verse.

[A]

I might want to go to a verses. For sure. That.

[B]

Yes, for sure, for sure.

[C]

Laura, we can't rap. They haven't even done the Guru.

[A]

It's time for the Gurus chime.

[C]

Oh, no. You can't do it. I sent it to you. Don't say I didn't do the work.

[A]

Let's see. No outro. No.

[C]

And you're not plugged in.

[A]

No, that's not it.

[C]

I sent you the chime. You want me to play the chime off my phone?

[A]

Let's see if you got the chime.

[C]

I got the chime. You know I got the chime. I got.

[A]

It's time for the gurus. Ah, there you go.

[B]

There we go.

[A]

The original gurus.

[B]

Gmail.com. the original gurus. Gmail.Com.

[C]

Where we.

[B]

Zen, zen, zen.

[C]

Can you turn my mic down for one second?

[B]

Burn the sagey, bro. Come on.

[A]

Zen, zen, zen.

[B]

Who's out there? Who needs us?

[C]

So many people are in need of the gurus. The guru. The original gurusmail.com. the original gurusmail.Com fought here. First of all, I love the show. Love the growth, love the plans and I'm always rooting for you guys to win big. Okay, now to the mess in my life. My husband and I have been married for 12 years together. 19. Next year is the big 20.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[C]

I'm 36. He's 38. You have the button over there.

[A]

Which one?

[C]

Congratulations. Congratulations.

[A]

You played yourself.

[C]

That's just a long time. That's since you were 16 years old, folks.

[B]

Okay, go, go.

[C]

And we basically grew up together. He's truly my best friend. We have three kids, 10, 6 and 4. So we are deep in the trenches of parenting. He works two jobs so I can stay home with the kids while finishing school to become a teacher. He's an amazing hands on dad. No gender roles in this house. He mops, does laundry, handles bath time, whatever needs to get done. Here's where things shift. Recently I lost a lot of weight and I had a major glow up. I feel confident. I love getting dressed now. I enjoy shopping. And yes, I look good. Okay. I feel like a new woman in the best way. Honestly, I just wish he could enjoy this new body and the woman I'm growing into instead of worrying about it. But my husband has been getting really insecure. He constantly accuses me of cheating or talking to someone. He's gone through my phone when I'm not around. He makes comments about my outfits like I'm trying to impress somebody. At first it felt almost silly, like, aw, he's jealous. But this has been going on for about two years and it's getting worse now. It just makes me mad and honestly hurt when I get upset. He says, I have a guilty conscience. Bro, you're the one acting like you have a guilty conscience. And before Anyone says it. No, I don't think he's cheating. I've checked thoroughly. There's nothing. He's never given me that vibe. This feels more like just his own self esteem issue. We've done therapy before after our first child and we actually communicate well overall. This is just the one issue that keeps growing and I don't know how to handle it without it turning into a fight. How do I support my husband through his insecurity without dimming myself or feeling like I have to shrink to make him comfortable?

[A]

This is deep.

[B]

I know.

[A]

He needs therapy. Dola. And then he needs to unpack what's really going on with him. And then y' all need to do it together. That's. I mean, because. Yes, she should not have to, as she quote, quoted or said, dim herself.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And congratulations to you, by the way. By working hard and. And just changing your body.

[C]

And that sounds fire. By the way. Congratulations to him. Sounds like great news for him too. I don't know why my man's doing this.

[A]

He's just jealous.

[C]

Jealous. He should be happy for himself.

[A]

You just.

[C]

Your wife just became a baddie.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. But he's. But he's not about.

[B]

He's stuck in. She evolved. And he's.

[A]

He's not a baddie. He's a slouch.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you know, but. And that's really. What's happening is he's looking in the mirror and going, I suck. And she doesn't anymore. And I don't know what to do.

[C]

I gotta get my ish together.

[A]

I gotta get my ish together. And he doesn't know how to articulate that and humble himself in the process. And how long they've been together? Since they were.

[C]

Forever. 20 years.

[A]

So there were children. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So that's what it is. And he doesn't. He's never probably dated that much like they.

[C]

At all.

[A]

They've only been with each other. So he doesn't really know how to deal with any of this. He doesn't have the skills, man. Go get therapy.

[B]

Therapy for him. And then maybe. Maybe be like, yo, you want to jump on this fitness train? Let me help you.

[A]

And someone please tell him whatever he's saying to you. He's actually. What is that called? Self. Self prophesizing.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Or.

[C]

Or projecting project.

[A]

Well, yeah, but almost. He's gonna make it.

[C]

So she's gonna sound. Fulfilling prophecy.

[A]

There you go. That's what I was looking for.

[C]

Yeah. Nice. You're gonna make her want to. Why you're Putting the idea in her head. She's not even thinking about that.

[A]

Right.

[B]

He wants a reason to be mad at her. Because the way it's made.

[A]

And one day, y' all gonna be in the bathroom together, brushing your teeth, and you're gonna have your stomach hanging, looking nasty, and she's gonna look over and then look at herself and be like, why am I still here? And this guy's negative.

[C]

That's the thing. If you could just change your attitude. You're Gucci now. You're putting the spotlight on yourself.

[B]

I hope he'll be open to therapy by himself. I hope. I hope she can talk.

[A]

It sound like you need to be open to the gym, and then it.

[B]

Could be a family, but you are.

[C]

Making that whole thing up. She could write back and say, no, that's not at all. He's just an a hole.

[A]

I mean, I'm just going on, you know what? You get what she's giving.

[C]

Yeah, but she said nothing.

[A]

That's even worse if he's just an a hole.

[B]

I know, because I. I was actually.

[A]

Going the positive route where it's fixable. You can do some work. You can go work, get some.

[C]

I hear you. It's a nice thought, but it does it like we just. That information is not there. Maybe that information not there, though. All she said was, he's jealous all the time, and I don't know why I like the version you told because now he can go to the gym and they can feel good together, but if he's been in good shape the whole time, he just can't handle it where you're at.

[A]

Break up with him, burn this whole thing down.

[C]

I think I said that.

[A]

Well, because if he's just an a hole, why she staying?

[B]

What are we even talking about for so long?

[A]

Laura, I'm going with what you meant. This your guy over here. There's your guy that you claim is a guru over here. This is the guy that you've been rocking with on this Google thing.

[C]

What? You. But you made up a scenario that didn't. No, I didn't. I read the info, and I reply, you go, listen. What he needs to do is go to the gym.

[A]

You guys let me be a guru. So I was trying to be positive, which is like, hit some abs, change your diet, feel good about yourself, and then you stop being jealous of your woman.

[C]

If that part is true, then you nailed it. She might be listening. Like, damn, that's not even the problem, though. So don't we have to give both.

[A]

Scenarios well, then if the problem is.

[C]

He'S just mean about this, like, this is me. No, the problem is this has made him uncomfortable. You and I don't get it. So we're looking for what another thing could be. But some dudes do get that way. One.

[A]

Okay, so, boom. Let's play. Let's play this out. She improved herself.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

The person. The person that she's with now is mad and treating her bad because she wanted to do better for herself.

[C]

That's not why. He's doing it because she's hot and he's insecure and gets jealous.

[A]

But that is why.

[C]

But that's not. I. I don't know. Don't you think we're oversimplifying there. We just can't act like there aren't guys who are like this. We've seen them. And you're like, why?

[A]

But wouldn't have he had shown signs of this before? Would. This wouldn't be new then. Well.

[C]

Well, no. Would he? Not if she was really looking like a much worse version of herself and he was literally at home going, I'm fine. No one's going after him.

[A]

But then he's terrible. He's terrible. It all leads to terrible.

[C]

So you're going. Your version is the only one where he's not terrible.

[A]

That's what I'm trying to do here, man.

[C]

I hope that. I guess. I hope you're right.

[B]

I think he's jealous. I think so. He's insecure and he's jealous.

[A]

And that's the positive side. If he's not insecure and jealous and he's just mean because you wanted to improve yourself.

[C]

I just don't know.

[A]

This is over, ma'. Am. Blow the whole thing up.

[C]

I just don't know. She says they. They're great about communicating about everything except this. That's. That's. That must be very frustrating.

[B]

Because he's jealous and admit that he's jealous.

[C]

Maybe. Maybe there's someone out there who could. Could write us a dude who listens who could explain that thing. Because that is not uncommon. The dudes who, like, have a hot wife and get all crazy and insecure. What is that about?

[B]

But why won't you accept that he's jealous?

[A]

Who?

[B]

You.

[C]

What do you mean? Of course I am. That's what the question was.

[B]

That's it.

[A]

I just. Question was, what does she do?

[C]

Right. We know he's jealous. It's built in. I'm saying I don't know what you do. If it's not as simple as, oh, he just feels bad because he's unattractive. If it's just as simple as, no, guys, we're not going to act as if we don't go to club. We haven't been in a club. There's an attractive woman. Her man's not unattractive. He's an attractive guy, too, and he's still yoking her up by the arm and acting like a crazy person. This is real life.

[A]

No, because he's joking.

[C]

How do you fix that, though?

[A]

Well, that honestly goes to, like, digging in and getting therapy and really figuring out what you're jealous about. About. Because what that leads to, in my opinion, is it leads to you don't trust her to be jealous of her just because she looks good and other people think she looks good for you to jump all the way over to yoking her up and acting like she's gonna trip and stumble on somebody's dirt just because she's pretty.

[C]

Right.

[A]

You're a psychopath and you don't trust her.

[C]

Right.

[A]

You think that because she's a woman, all she knows is, oh, people like me. So I want to put this in.

[C]

My mind, but you just got something somewhere. It can also feed into a certain level of, like, built in, sort of misogyny and sexism. Could be of, like, not, people didn't really want you before, but now that they do, I know what women are.

[A]

Like, and I can't trust you. Cause you're gonna shove it.

[C]

Okay, we get the point.

[B]

So hopefully.

[A]

Listen, I was gonna go open in the ear.

[C]

She can't resist it.

[B]

Hopefully he's open to therapy. Maybe you start couples and then switch over to, like, just him.

[C]

Yeah, no, I think. I think that's a good idea.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You'd say get in there together.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And maybe with someone else in the room. Yeah, they'll like, hey, we should talk about this separately. This isn't a. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And then hopefully, eventually it. It'll be both of you in the gym.

[C]

There you go.

[B]

Hopefully. So say the gurus.

[A]

Yeah. We don't even have a clothes on.

[C]

Yeah, we do.

[A]

Nothing.

[C]

We do.

[A]

I don't have it.

[C]

Yeah, you do.

[A]

No, I don't have a clothes on. The guru.

[C]

Oh, no. Our clothes is usually just playing the outro. Oh, that's what we've been doing. All right. We don't live in the sweeper era anymore. You know what I mean?

[A]

I missed the sweeper era. I like a nice clothes.

[C]

No, it was nice. Is. But the outro era is kind of fired, though. We never had an outro era.

[B]

Yeah, we never did.

[C]

It was a commercial.

[A]

That was it. I like the outro. Hey, please subscribe, man. We have over a thousand subscribers on Patreon now.

[C]

Yeah, man. Really?

[A]

Cool.

[C]

That's.

[A]

That's awesome.

[C]

We are super grateful for that.

[A]

Laura, I thought you were having a merch update today. What happened?

[C]

Every day you ask her for a merch update.

[A]

I thought we were launching a new thing this week.

[B]

Not yet.

[A]

I thought we were. I thought we talked about this last week. Hey, Chad, am I lying? Did we not talk about launching a new thing this Monday?

[C]

This man hits her with the. Yo, what's the merch update? Yo, I'm shipping it tomorrow. Next day, did it arrive yet? Merch update.

[A]

I like customer service.

[C]

Yo, we. We need a merch update.

[A]

Deliveries on my online order. All the orders are shipped seven to 10 days. For a T shirt ain't popping.

[B]

That's what it is. Welcome to the real world.

[C]

We're not Target. You know me.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Yo, can y' all take pictures of yourselves in the T shirts and tag us? I really want to see you in them.

[C]

I like that, cuz.

[B]

I saw people opening up the packages and, like, showing the shirts, but I want to see you in them.

[C]

I got it. I like that.

[A]

Rah's got one on today. He finally got a new T shirt. He hyped. He got all them kids over there. He never gets anything.

[C]

Yeah, no, no.

[A]

They everything new. Yeah, he got a new T shirt. He was like the only thing.

[C]

You get his new kids. That's the only thing new. He gets the new kid.

[B]

He's dying after.

[A]

Hey, yo, we'll be here tomorrow, man. And remember, I'm traveling this week. So for all of y' all that get mad that we not live or I'm.

[C]

If we're not live, we're not in the same room. Guys. Trying to hit you five days a week. That's all we're trying to do.

[A]

Trying to be here. Talk a little. Is shout out to everybody who wanted the Grammys. Man on the out. Can I hear. Do you have Bad Bunny? We don't have Bad Bunny and Espanol. Maybe we'll play that for tomorrow. There we go. I want to hear that. Ebro. Laura Rosenberg. Thank you for tuning in. Don't call it a podcast.