28.) Don Lemon Opens Up On Arrest + Lil Wayne’s BIG Super Bowl Plans (2/3/26)

Summary

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The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show

Episode 28: Don Lemon Opens Up On Arrest + Lil Wayne’s BIG Super Bowl Plans (2/3/26) Date: February 3, 2026
Hosts: Ebro Darden, Laura Styles, Peter Rosenberg

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Episode Overview

This episode covers a range of lively topics, from the viral boxing fight wig incident and Teofimo Lopez’s unexpected apology, to Don Lemon’s candid recounting of his arrest under the Trump administration. The crew also dives into cultural conversations around Lil Wayne’s Super Bowl virtual show, Grammy controversies, the ongoing saga of family dynamics post-radio, and a moving listener “Guru” letter about surviving abuse and navigating family court.

The tone is sharp, witty, and real, offering a blend of humor, pop culture, and a few serious moments—including a heartfelt advice segment.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Personal Catch-Ups & Lost Items—Grills, iPads, and Airplane Fumbles

  [00:25–03:43]

• The hosts begin with playful banter about Ebro constantly losing iPads on planes, and a hilarious riff on losing gold grills (“grills always lost in a napkin at a restaurant”—Ebro).
• Touches on real-life moments, like Laura losing Invisaligns and the practicality (or not) of wearing grills.

Memorable quote:

“For the record, everyone who gets grills loses them in a napkin.”
—Ebro Darden (03:39)

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2. Viral Boxing Fails & Race, with a Teofimo Lopez Twist

  [03:44–08:20]

• Discussion of a boxing match where a fighter’s toupee is knocked off, generating viral internet buzz.
• Focus on Teofimo Lopez, known for past racist remarks, giving an on-air apology for slavery after losing (“Can you imagine getting your ass beat so bad you apologize for slavery?” —Ebro, 05:27).
• They play and react to Lopez’s actual apology (see Notable Quotes below).

Notable Quote

“To the slavery and everything that’s ever happened. Mentally, this...”
—Teofimo Lopez, after his loss [05:17]

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3. Reflections on Team Changes & Show Dynamics

  [10:06–14:29]

• Reminiscing about former team members (“Shawnee Culture,” “DJ John”) and what it would mean for the show if they returned.
• Honest peek behind the curtain at radio/podcast transition and audience loyalty.

Quote:

"Six weeks in, it feels like everybody who’s not here is not here...To see any of them walk in would be like a holy ish moment."
—Ebro Darden [11:18]

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4. Black History Month, Content, and Birthdays

  [09:28–16:34]

• Discussion of curating Black History Month content, avoiding “shady” jokes at co-hosts’ expense.
• Lighter banter about missed birthdays, aging, and how milestone birthdays are perceived differently (e.g., “Why is 45 kind of nothing and 65 is big?”—Ebro).

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5. Personal Wellness, Common’s New Book & Lessons on Aging

  [16:14–18:13]

• Ebro shares reflections inspired by Common's wellness journey (“This is truly the age…to get it together” [16:59]), prompting the co-hosts to consider self-care and wellness as they age.

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6. Don Lemon Opens Up on Arrest Under Trump Administration

  [18:35–22:03]

• The crew reacts to Don Lemon’s Jimmy Kimmel interview recounting his arrest by federal agents, describing the difference between being a protester and a journalist.
• Lemon’s lawyer offered for him to self-report, which was ignored by authorities—suggesting they wanted to make an example out of him.
• Discussion about intimidation tactics, double standards (“Trump was allowed the courtesy to turn himself in...”—Don Lemon [20:39]).

Notable Quotes:

"Why would you show up with 10, 12 people to apprehend Don Lemon?" —Peter Rosenberg [21:03]
"We all knew immediately that is a huge win for Don Lemon." —Ebro [21:26]

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7. ICE, Immigration, and the Political Landscape

  [22:11–25:24]

• Reflections on how ICE has escalated in the Trump era, with Laura and Ebro recalling earlier years when only "the worst of the worst" were targeted (“Now, people who are...one interview away from a green card…are getting snatched up.” —Laura [23:40]).
• Breaks down myths about immigration violations—“not a crime, more like a civil misdemeanor” (Peter, [24:16]).

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8. Grammys, Country Music, and Cultural Representation

  [24:43–29:58]

• They discuss Shaboozy’s Grammy acceptance speech and the concept of immigrants “building this country,” parsing the nuances/reactions from the Black community.
• Jelly Roll’s reluctance to speak on political issues is critiqued:

  “He wants to be a nice guy, make great music…When challenged with something controversial, he doesn’t know where to go or what to say.”
  —Peter Rosenberg [28:03]

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9. Music News Rundown: J. Cole Events, Lil Wayne’s Super Bowl Plans, TI’s ‘Final’ Album

  [31:14–41:41]

• J. Cole: Hosting a “Bars and Books” lyricist lounge-style event in Brooklyn, with similar interactive sessions in other cities.
• Lil Wayne: Not included in this year’s Grammys, but set to perform a virtual show during Super Bowl week for Clash Royale.
• TI: Announces (again) that his upcoming album is his “last.” The crew debates whether rappers ever really retire [37:26–40:47].

  “He’s telling us he’s retiring so that we run and support this album...with passion.” —Peter Rosenberg [39:52]

• Celebrates the musical paths of TI’s children, especially Damani and his youngest daughter.

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10. Lowdown Segment: Jay Z Paternity Case, Nicki Minaj Involvement

  [41:13–43:43]

• Laura recaps the ongoing case of Ramire Satterway claiming Jay Z is his father, and recent tweets about Nicki Minaj supposedly supporting him.
• The crew tries to untangle the connections, with speculation about Nicki’s beefs and motivations.

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11. Super Chat, Community, and Merch Troubles

  [43:44–50:01]

• Jokes and gripes about late merch shipments, audience interaction through Super Chat, and the upcoming “El Army” loyalty club.
• Good-natured bickering about customer service:

  "You want your merch, you wait!" —Laura [44:35]

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12. Advice—Gurus Segment: Surviving Abuse & Navigating Family Court

  [51:03–63:13]

• Listener letter: A mother seeking guidance after enduring emotional and physical abuse from her child's father, navigating family court, and dealing with being manipulated by outside pressures.
• The team offers empathy, practical advice (orders of protection, boundaries, supervised visits), and personal stories.

  “You need to lean on safety…that’s the number one thing. Safety and a healthy environment for your child.” —Laura [56:35]
  “I am so sorry and I feel you and I validate your feelings…hope you have a group of friends and loved ones…to support you.” —Ebro [59:58]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Teofimo Lopez's wild apology
  “Can you imagine getting your ass beat so bad you apologize for slavery?”
  —Ebro, [05:27]

• On viral moments and social media:
  “Someone losing their wig in the middle of a fight?...That’s a piece of history right there.”
  —Ebro & Rosenberg [09:08]

• On radio/podcast industry changes:
  “It feels like our old family, our family members who are no longer part of this team...To see any of them walk in would be like a holy ish kind of moment...”
  —Ebro Darden [11:32]

• On Don Lemon's arrest:
  "Donald Trump was allowed the courtesy to turn himself in when he was accused—why not Don Lemon?"
  —Don Lemon [20:39]

• On aging and wellness:
  “This is truly the age to get it together in a way you can make a difference, it’s now.”
  —Peter Rosenberg [16:59]

• On Jelly Roll and celebrities staying silent:
  “Most people are going to fry for that…you're being a little bitch.”
  —Peter Rosenberg [28:03]

• On rappers retiring:
  “He’s telling us he’s retiring so we run and support this album with…passion.”
  —Peter Rosenberg [39:52]

• Guru advice to listener:
  “I want safety. I want peace, and I want protection for my son…I refuse to teach him that abuse is something women are expected to endure.”
  —Listener letter [55:36]
  “You need to lean on safety…a healthy environment for your child.”
  —Laura Styles [56:35]

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Key Timestamps

• [05:17]: Teofimo Lopez’s post-fight apology clip
• [18:35–22:03]: Don Lemon arrest and Kimmel interview breakdown
• [31:14]: Laura’s news rundown (J. Cole events, Wayne’s Super Bowl)
• [37:26–40:47]: TI’s retirement and the “last album” marketing trope
• [51:03–63:13]: The Gurus—Serious advice on family, safety, and healing after domestic violence

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Tone and Style

• Highly conversational, candid, and irreverent with moments of real empathy and concern.
• The hosts balance humor with incisive takes on current affairs, music, and social issues, offering both industry insider perspective and down-to-earth advice.

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For Listeners

• Expect a lively, unfiltered mix—hot takes on viral news, cultural critiques, music scoops, and genuine listener engagement.
• This episode stands out for its balance of laughter, real talk, and community-building, especially through the supportive advice segment and the candid honesty about their journey as a new, independent show.

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Transcript

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just don't call it a podcast, Okay? He bro. Laura Rosenberg. Good morning, everybody. Good morning, Tuesday vibes. I like the tight shots. Good. Good looking shot. Who thunk of that?

[Ebro Darden]

That was my wife. That was our most lawyer. Loyal viewer.

[Laura Styles]

Shuts up his head.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yo, give her a cut or a.

[Ebro Darden]

By the way, don't think she hasn't said, should I just come in?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

Should I just come in?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Absolutely, you should.

[Ebro Darden]

I'll say, babe, I don't know. I don't know if we need more time together, but she wouldn't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It would take. It would take one day. Literally, it would take 30 minutes.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, to come. Like, just generally check things out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Or she could check things out from where she's at.

[Ebro Darden]

She definitely has thoughts, though. But this is an. I think this is a big improvement. We didn't need that front monitor look previously, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It looks better.

[Ebro Darden]

Looks clean. Looks clean.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think so.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, I have volume on here. Sorry. I got my iPad on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Ah.

[Ebro Darden]

Ah. All right, it's off. Here we go. This is so I can view the chat live during this show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're looking like me over there with the tech. With the tech. You don't know how to work an iPad. Be honest. You don't have an iPad. Yeah, I do. You do.

[Ebro Darden]

My wife gave me one, and now you gave me one.

[Laura Styles]

Now you too.

[Ebro Darden]

All I do is get gifted. I get gifted iPad. So you were.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You were straight phone and laptop. That was it.

[Ebro Darden]

I had an iPad for a long time, and then I flew to Houston or Dallas sometime last year. Got off the flight, made it literally, like an hour, and I was like, damn it, I left my iPad in the front pocket.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Remember this, bro?

[Laura Styles]

That just happened. Immediately.

[Ebro Darden]

Immediately. Hit them. Never got it back.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I remember this story.

[Ebro Darden]

Never got it back this past trip.

[Laura Styles]

And you know what? My man doesn't want to admit it, but I know he left it in the pocket because that's what he did last year, too.

[Ebro Darden]

They just take this stuff from the pocket. They don't care the first time I.

[Laura Styles]

Actually got it back.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yo, if I want to. Listen, if I'm one of those people that go and clean the planes, I'm keeping everything in that back pocket.

[Laura Styles]

What are you going to do with an iPad like that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You can't figure out somebody to reset it? Yeah, give it over. Yeah, there's somebody who can reset an iPad. Hard set. Hard reset, whatever.

[Ebro Darden]

It's annoying, though. Like, you would think that within an hour you could get it back.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No. If I'm cleaning your snot rags and all your little snacks. I'm holding this iPad, man. Guaranteed holding.

[Laura Styles]

Also lost his gold grills on plane one time in the pocket.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, hit him with the button for having the grills on the plane, please.

[Laura Styles]

You know how crazy I started.

[Soundboard/Producer (e.g., 'You played yourself' clips)]

You played yourself.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, well, my husband left some gold teeth. They were like, what?

[Ebro Darden]

How do you even know what to. What do they even look?

[Soundboard/Producer (e.g., 'You played yourself' clips)]

Congratulations. You played yourself.

[Ebro Darden]

For the record, everyone who gets grills loses them in a napkin.

[Laura Styles]

I know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Throws them away at a restaurant.

[Laura Styles]

Or Invisalign or retainers. I lost, like, three of them.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, Invisalign is acceptable, though, because you need that to improve your teeth. I got to tell you guys, I don't think I could, like, fix my lips to. To order a grill to be like, hey, I think I'm going to do it, and I'm going to start wearing this now. I don't. I don't think I could do it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think. I think I'm happy you can't do it.

[Ebro Darden]

Do you think you could do it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't think I could, but I'm happy you can't.

[Ebro Darden]

That's not the look you want for the show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know. I just. I don't think that's the look you want for yourself.

[Laura Styles]

If you could, would you get Topper bottom?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yo, somebody said. Somebody said, rosenberg, some grills. We need to see what this looks like. Because, yo, if you want to see the Internet come for you for being a culture vulture all of a sudden, oh, my goodness.

[Ebro Darden]

They treat me like I wear grills now when I give an opinion. Although guess what? The guys who wear grills are beloved.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, all of them.

[Ebro Darden]

Just Paul.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just Paul Wall.

[Ebro Darden]

And he's a very.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because he's legit and from a real place that. Yeah, yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

And he's a very. He's a very charming individual.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, today on the show, I think there's a couple of things we didn't have time to get to yesterday. Like the heavyweight boxer getting his toupee knocked off in Brooklyn.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Teofimo Lopez in that same night getting retribution for being racist.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't know Tfimo Loma Lopez was considered like a race baiting ye.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

A hole I missed started it like, I'd say a year or two after he popped off, like maybe two years in, he started with the nasty, racist, weird, lame. Yeah. It was very whack. And now he said, now he's apologizing for slavery. It was a crazy clip. I've never seen someone go that far from racist. Like, yo, man, I'm just sorry about slavery. No, I. I'm not. Am I making this up? He literally.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait, you're not exaggerating?

[Ebro Darden]

No, I swear to God. He apologized for slavery. I don't know what he meant exactly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yo, we can't get that clip loaded. Oh, you have that. Yo, look at Rah. Yo, man, I need regular applause or bomb. The Rahsaan Bascom bomb.

[Ebro Darden]

What? He has something?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, when Rahsaan gets it right. I don't have. I don't have the bomb either. Oh, yeah, I do. There you go. The Rahsaan Baskin bomb. You get that, playboy? Let's see the Tia Figma Lopez apologizing for slavery.

[Teofimo Lopez (clip)]

Every time. Gotta put respect to it. To all my brothers and sisters, I love you guys. Always salute to the power that it be above. I thank you guys. I never wanted anything to harm you guys at all. So for that, my condolences to all you guys and to the slavery and everything that's ever happened. Mentally, this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

To the slavery and everything that's ever happened.

[Ebro Darden]

You never thought you'd get that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, not. I didn't know Tiafimo Lopez needed to.

[Laura Styles]

Do that, but God.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, can you imagine getting your ass beat? So you apologize for slavery.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The races out that man. Yo, let me see that one more time.

[Ebro Darden]

No, you got to see it.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, my God.

[Teofimo Lopez (clip)]

Every time. Gotta put respect to it. To all my brothers and sisters, I love you guys. Always salute to the power that it be above. I thank you guys. I never wanted anything to harm you guys at all. So for that, my condolences to all you guys and to the slavery and everything that's ever happened. Mentally, this.

[Ebro Darden]

What is the. Mentally.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nah, let's.

[Ebro Darden]

He's talking about the mental slavery.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's talking about all of them. He's talking. He's talking about post traumatic slave disorder, you know, all of the trauma. He's talking about all of that. By the way, Teofimo, send that script over to everybody at the federal government.

[Ebro Darden]

Would you like to get that from the Trump administration?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'd like to get it from any administration.

[Laura Styles]

He looks so nuts. He looks like Will Smith and Hitch after the allergic reaction.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it's bad. It's bad. It wasn't as bad as. Listen, at least Big Baby Miller won.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That was the guy with the toupee.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, he won the fight, so it turned out to be great. You know what I mean? He's popping. Went to the Breakfast Club yesterday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nice.

[Ebro Darden]

He's hot outside.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did he wear the toupee to breakfast?

[Ebro Darden]

No, he went straight with the ball in this. And the little rim still around it.

[Laura Styles]

He kept the rim.

[Ebro Darden]

I think it's still there.

[Laura Styles]

Just take it off.

[Ebro Darden]

But like, because he won, it really played out great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Ebro Darden]

You lose that fight, that is the worst moment of your life. You win the fight. It's now like a great marketing tool.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Toupee was holding him back. Let's watch it again.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it's. The toupee is nuts. I never see anything. Is it coming off? What is happening here? It is. Damn. The commentary was calling it too. But a fighter is getting the hair.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hooked off his head.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh my goodness. He knew he had what he was told.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So funny, right? I get to my mama house and I, she had some shampoo bottles under her table and I shampooed it. It was, was like ammonia bleach. I already lost my hair like two days ago. So I called my man. Let me slap that on real quick. Knock that off. But like I said before. Wait, so he's blaming his baldness on.

[Ebro Darden]

No. So I guess I, I, I imagine that's a true story then. Why else would you do something that stupid if you, if it hadn't just happened. So you felt crazy. You would think just go with the baldy though, bro. Why would you do that? Just shave it all off.

[Laura Styles]

So I don't understand. He went, he used shampoo that was like ammonia and bleach.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. And he said it not took his hair off.

[Soundboard/Producer (e.g., 'You played yourself' clips)]

Congratulations. I mean, you played yourself.

[Ebro Darden]

If that's true.

[Laura Styles]

Oh my God.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait, some. He used shampoo in his mom's shower.

[Laura Styles]

Uh huh. I think it was Nair. Nair is a lotion that you, it.

[Ebro Darden]

Will rub it right off.

[Laura Styles]

And it's a hair remover. And then you rinse it off. It's a hair remover.

[Ebro Darden]

Believe me. I used to use Nair.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You might have used Nair. And that's still.

[Soundboard/Producer (e.g., 'You played yourself' clips)]

Congratulations. You played yourself.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow. Teofimo Lopez got the, the, the racist beat out of him. And another man got his two.

[Ebro Darden]

It was, it was a great night. It was a good night for the show though. It really did get a ton of conversation. Like when I was in, I was in Saudi watching my Instagram that day. It was all. And my whole timeline was his hair. It took over. Was for you or.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I saw it a bunch. Yeah, it was a lot saw a bunch.

[Ebro Darden]

Does that mean I'm now. Am I down with black social media?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I think you're in sports social media and I'm And I'm finally getting my sports algorithm up.

[Ebro Darden]

Got it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So that's really what's.

[Ebro Darden]

But it had to be black too.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was everywhere.

[Ebro Darden]

Someone losing their wig in the middle of a fight.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, and also it too.

[Laura Styles]

And it was in all the messy blogs.

[Ebro Darden]

Made the mess too.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, did. Did someone pick up the toupee? Because I read that he, like, threw the toupee into the ground.

[Ebro Darden]

If he threw that to pass a valuable toupee.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Ebro Darden]

That's a piece of history right there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Oh, he kept it back.

[Laura Styles]

There's a picture producer. He had it later.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Got it. Got it. All right.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, shout out to Scooby the Dawn.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Who's this?

[Ebro Darden]

Super chat.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yo, how much? What? $10?

[Ebro Darden]

That was just a $99.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hey, listen, whatever you can afford. I'm. I. You know, I feel some type of way that y' all throwing money at us like strippers on the. On the chat.

[Ebro Darden]

Reese the Lumber. Happy Black History Month.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Happy Black History Month.

[Ebro Darden]

We are. We are here. So see, I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And we gotta. We do full transparency here, right? That's. That's. That's what we said. We was mostly gonna try.

[Ebro Darden]

We tried that. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I wanted to play Shawnee Culture's Black Fact on. On the program.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Everybody told me not to do it.

[Ebro Darden]

I didn't think it was a good idea.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And you guys thought it would be because it would seem shady to Shiny Culture.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, because it would be shady. And then you would pretend it's not shady, and it would be shady, and.

[Laura Styles]

You would still crack jokes.

[Ebro Darden]

It would definitely be shady. And then he might call Shani later and be like, yo, I played it.

[Laura Styles]

And it still wouldn't make him feel shot. He knows. He's like, you were cooking me?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. And he knew because it was a weird. It was a weird Black Fact. It felt like, I have.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So I haven't seen it.

[Laura Styles]

It felt forced.

[Ebro Darden]

It felt forced.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So when you guys put it in the chat, I hadn't watched it. I was just like, let's play it. Because really, what I wanted to do was I wanted to play it every day to see if he got. Because when we did, Black Fact was Shoddy Culture. We would get, like, four for the month because he would go on vacation. He's got a cruise this month, and it would be, like, one, two, skip a few.

[Laura Styles]

He would forget.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So I was really. So I was really trying to track it to see if we could get to, like, you know, at least 20 for the month. That was. I didn't know What? The content.

[Ebro Darden]

And you're telling me that if Shawnee did 20 for the month at Hot, you wouldn't be shading him then I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Was gonna shade it.

[Ebro Darden]

Got it. Got it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I was gonna wait for that. That was my ultimate plan.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm saying right now we need to bring shiny culture back to the show. This. I feel like. I feel like at this point. You guys know I'm a wrestling fan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Ebro Darden]

I feel like at this point, the way things are going, you. This is really speaking out loud to the people. The way things are going. It would be such a surprise at this point. Like, if one day you turn on the show and Shawnee was back, it would actually be like, oh, Ish. Like, it. It really does feel like. And I didn't know where we would be six weeks in. Yeah, it feels six weeks in. Like, everybody who's not here is not here. Am I. Am I wrong?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You mean as far as our team or.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. Like, it feels like they're not.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know. Is it our team? Our former team.

[Laura Styles]

Former team.

[Ebro Darden]

It feels like. It feels like our old family. Our family members who are no longer part of this team.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

To see any of them walk in would be like a holy ish kind of moment. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it does feel that way.

[Laura Styles]

People ask for cast. Like, would you bring him for Whitish Wednesday? Can you do a pop up? And I'm like, I don't think he's allowed.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, so. And that's the other thing I don't quite understand. Right. We aren't another radio station, bro. They. Well, no, I understand where management would be like, we don't want you to do that. Or, Right. Or we're gonna let you go because of it. But technically speaking, where is it written that? Because guess what they all do over there. Jump on podcasts and shows all the time. People do podcasts.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo. Yo. In fact, Mero's so on point with his promo game in everything they shot him doing for the promo of the show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He was promoting other stuff.

[Ebro Darden]

He was wearing his logo for his podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

It was all a promo play, so why would they care if they popped up here? But the fact is, it would put a spotlight on them.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I know that. But technically speaking.

[Ebro Darden]

Technically, Schmeck. Nickl. With these people.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I know that for sure.

[Ebro Darden]

We already know other people getting the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, listen, there's a national. What is it? The National Labor Review Board. If it's not written anywhere that they can't Jump on other podcasts. You can't just.

[Ebro Darden]

A lot of people in the chat. A lot of people in the chat saying, bring Shawnee, bring Cass. I even see 1 Bring DJ John. Then I see a please don't bring. Please don't bring Shawnee.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why not?

[Ebro Darden]

But most people. Most people are. Are saying they.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Whoever said don't bring Shawnee, You're a. Stop being like that.

[Ebro Darden]

Whoa.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And Laura, you. You're good with Juanito pulling up. Where you. Where you and Juanito at today?

[Ebro Darden]

Like, I guess I didn't call him on his birthday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

When was his birthday? Happy birthday, Juanito. Send him this clip. I didn't know you guys know I'm bad with birthdays. Shawnie wouldn't have forgot.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm bad, though. Cause I did. Yesterday was a big one for Michael K. So I did post. It was 65.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yo, happy birthday, Michael K. You know Michael K reached out to me when the whole thing unraveled.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes. He used that. When he was talking about how bad a friend I was. He used that. He's spoken to Ebro more than he's spoken to me.

[Laura Styles]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

He's. I know. I've had.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait, why were you guys beefing?

[Ebro Darden]

We weren't, but he just, you know, he likes to. You know, he likes to be Ham it up. Yeah. And then, you know, the. That's the only way we get talked about. Our radio station, they only write about us doing something if it's like internal beef in some way, but. So I gave him a big shout out yesterday. And then I realized I was like, I never hit Juanito. And I don't know what birthday it was for, what number it was for John either. 45.

[Peter Rosenberg]

45.

[Ebro Darden]

That's not a nothing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, it's something. But I hit him today.

[Ebro Darden]

Why is 45 kind of nothing and 65 is big? Because of retirement.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Retirement. Yeah, that.

[Ebro Darden]

That number was made. But. But now I was arguing with Alan Hahn yesterday on my show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right?

[Ebro Darden]

He said he doesn't think there's anything he cares about birthday wise between 50 and 90. I said, listen, have 75. 75 is a hammer.

[Laura Styles]

No, that's a big one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hey, Ohan, out of here. Yeah, shut up.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. Which one? What do you think?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're saying stuff.

[Ebro Darden]

What do you think is big after 50?

[Peter Rosenberg]

50, 60. You think 65. 70 after 50.

[Laura Styles]

It's a. It's a celebration that you made in another five.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, my God. It's a low bar, Laura.

[Laura Styles]

I'm sorry.

[Ebro Darden]

On the corner.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, no, I mean, in My family.

[Laura Styles]

Our water, our food.

[Peter Rosenberg]

My mom and dad died in the, you know, mid to late 60s, 70s.

[Laura Styles]

So you never know.

[Ebro Darden]

That was a big. That's a big. Well, no number, though.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's 10.

[Ebro Darden]

You went all the way up to 70, though?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, dad made 60. Something something, and mom was 7 7D.

[Ebro Darden]

7D on the dot. That's actually not great. But when I was having this convo yesterday with Allen and Don Lega.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Neither of their dads made it out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Of their 50s either.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, my dad's 62.

[Ebro Darden]

62?

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, your dad was mad young when he had you. That was only a few years ago. Hold on. That math's not mathing. That's crazy. He was really young.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

And the only 62 is young.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, anything I'm told by people in their 60s, like, it's dramatically like, I. I work out with people in their 60s. Like, I cycle with people in their 60s, and they're like, yo, this 60s thing is a. A fight. Like, it's a fight. It's on.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, what do you mean? Just because it's hard on their body.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Everything's hard. Everything's hard. Check up if you're not getting checked up, if you're not pushing yourself, if you're, like, not on it with food. Like, everything is hard for. And. And. And maybe that's not for everybody, but in their 60s is definitely.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, you also. This is the time. I mean, I had this. I'm listening. I've been meaning to say this for, like, five days. I'm listening to Common's book.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

Common has a book about his. His wellness journey. Because you guys know Common's been free.

[Peter Rosenberg]

A little while ago.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. I don't know. It just popped up as a free thing on Spotify. So. I know you're not a Spotify guy, but it. I'm still stuck there because they have my playlist and stuff.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, you can change your playlist, though.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. It's time. What is. What is it? Listen, Spotify doesn't do anything for me. At least Apple does things for my friends. I should go over to Apple.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, Apple does something for you right now.

[Laura Styles]

It's easy to use. It's.

[Ebro Darden]

So anyways, it popped up there for free, though. It's called and Then We Rise.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think I interviewed him on Apple.

[Ebro Darden]

About this book, A Guide to Loving and Taking Care of Self. And so I started that book. You know how good Common's voice sounds, by the way? To hear you just talking about life.

[Laura Styles]

I know. Remember you played one second. I was like, that's common.

[Ebro Darden]

You're like, ooh, what is he talking about?

[Laura Styles]

What's he saying?

[Ebro Darden]

So. So when I was traveling, I was listening to the book, and my body was super upside down. Like, that flight. I don't know if you guys ever have this way after a long, long flight, my stomach was like, bo up and bad. When I got there, I really was not feeling it. And so the combination of feeling sick and listening to the book really reminded me how, like, I'm 46. This is truly the age to. If you're going to get it together in a way where you really can make a difference, it's now, like, not to say that I've been a wreck for a long time, but I could be better. And this is the time, like, Ebro's been on a committed. Be better for, like, at least 10 joints. At least 10.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, since my dad. My dad died was when I really started. Your dad. Which was nine.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, nine. That's. That's over 15 years ago.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That was when I started like, yo, I can't be eating cheese every day.

[Ebro Darden]

No, that's. That's when the grilled cheese started sending to the hospital.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, that was the case of dgif.

[Ebro Darden]

I was done send this man to the hospital. But so, by the way, it's a fantastic book. If anyone gets, like, a minute, it really is because his. His story is simple and one step at a time, and he's talking about. It's just not, like, judgmental at all. You know, Common's just a man, bro.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So we should have Common on the show.

[Ebro Darden]

I absolutely agree. I love whenever he's on the show. And I realized how much, like, we've talked to Common about a lot of stuff, but there's still so much more. Have we ever. When he sat here for our interviews, talked to him about being a ball boy for the Bulls?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nope. I didn't even know that. You didn't? Nope.

[Ebro Darden]

Never heard that he was there for Jordan's rookie year.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Never heard that.

[Ebro Darden]

Hit the button.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, hit the button for both.

[Soundboard/Producer (e.g., 'You played yourself' clips)]

Congratulations.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You played your last night. We got Kimmel. We got the Kimmel Clippers on. Don Lemon was on with Kimmel telling his story of what went down when he was apprehended by federal agents by the Trump regime, by the Fuhrer and his Gestapo.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's check out the clip.

[Jimmy Kimmel (clip)]

I believe we have some B roll. Protesters interrupted the Sunday service, and you followed them in. You interviewed various people in the church.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And.

[Jimmy Kimmel (clip)]

And afterward, well, you were arrested. Now, first, I want to ask you, is there a difference between whether those protesters had the right to go into a church and whether a credentialed journalist like yourself had the right to go in and cover them going into the church?

[Don Lemon (clip)]

Well, listen, obviously, I'm in the middle of this. I can't say a lot. There's a lot that I cannot say. But what I will say is that I'm not a protester. I went there to be a journalist. I went there to chronicle and document and record what was happening. I was following that one group around. And so that's what I did. I reported on them. And so. But I do think that there is a difference between a protester and a journalist.

[Jimmy Kimmel (clip)]

So the next day, Trump reposts something from someone saying that you should be arrested, you should be sentenced in prison for violating the Face Act. And at this point, are you thinking, oh, I might get arrested?

[Don Lemon (clip)]

Well, not until they started, you know, the drip, drip, drip of people starting to talk about it. I think Todd Blanche and Pam Bondi and all those folks talked about it. Here's the interesting thing, though, is that my. After that, you know, I retained an attorney, and the attorney reached out to them and said, basically, I understand that you have an interest because your folks have been talking about it. And so if you are serious about this, then let's do it the right way. He's perfectly willing to self report, which means turn yourself in, and so we don't have to go through this whole rigmarole and never heard back from them.

[Jimmy Kimmel (clip)]

That is customary in a situation like this, that someone would be allowed to turn themselves in.

[Don Lemon (clip)]

Yeah. People who are. Who are accused of much worse things than I am accused of doing is they are allowed the courtesy. I mean, Donald Trump was allowed the courtesy to turn himself in when he was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's right, he did. Yeah.

[Jimmy Kimmel (clip)]

And so.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And so Don Lemon goes on to talk about how basically they were trying to embarrass him.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And they want. They want to intimidate, and they, you know, because that's a great point. I didn't even think about that.

[Ebro Darden]

What, that they wouldn't let him?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, that they reached out to him and he was already like, yeah, nah, he could turn himself in. He has a lawyer. They reached out. There was correspondence already happening. Why would you show up with 10, 12 people? Because they apprehend Don Lemon.

[Ebro Darden]

Because the only point, and this is what makes them, yet again, so stupid. It. The Trump administration thought it would be a win for them to do that.

[Laura Styles]

I know, I know.

[Ebro Darden]

And we all knew immediately that is a huge win for Don Lemon.

[Laura Styles]

He goes on and he talks about how hard, you know, they treated him like crap.

[Ebro Darden]

Right.

[Laura Styles]

But once he was inside that the federal agents, like the FBI, actually, the FBI was actually. He was like, yo. They were actually great. Courteous.

[Ebro Darden]

Well. But they weren't helpful because he probably got to a point where he wasn't dealing with either, like, actual Trump sycophants. They might have just been people who have the job.

[Laura Styles]

And that's his point. He was like, the first batch had 30 days of training. The second batch is actually people who've been doing this for years. He's like, you can feel the difference.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. I mean, listen, not everybody who's working for this administration, by a long shot, agrees with everything that's happening.

[Laura Styles]

And there's people who've been there for years.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, and also, remember this, the ICE thing is very much a post 9 11. 911 didn't exist before.

[Ebro Darden]

It only was created.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes. Now, they had an immigration. Right. Like, there was immigration enforcement, but ICE as patrolling around, that was definitely a post 911 thing starting 2001.

[Ebro Darden]

I was listening to an episode of the Daily Yesterday about Tom Holm. Tom Holman.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yep.

[Ebro Darden]

And whether or not Democratic states and cities will play nicely with ice. Because, like, previously, up until now, up until this thing got as crazy as it was, like the Obama administration, local authorities would work with ice.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, here in New York City, you know how often we would hear about, you know, immigration being in the Bronx.

[Ebro Darden]

I started hearing ice, the term ICE getting thrown around loosely on our show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

When you guys would be talking about, like, oh, ICE is up here. This is several years ago.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Ebro Darden]

Now, it wasn't the same thing, but it was still, hey, you got to watch out, because they're.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, no, they had specific people they were going for based on a process.

[Ebro Darden]

But other. But. But. But regular people would still worry about it. Right. Like, you could still get.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Maybe if you had family members who didn't have papers or regular people who were citizens or had their paperwork, were not worried about ice, like, getting snatched up.

[Ebro Darden]

Right.

[Laura Styles]

Now, people who are in the system in the process, some literally just one interview away from getting their actual green card.

[Ebro Darden]

Right.

[Laura Styles]

All of them are getting snatched up.

[Ebro Darden]

But, but, but. But they said the worst of the worst.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You still doing this.

[Soundboard/Producer (e.g., 'You played yourself' clips)]

Congratulations. You played yourself.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're still doing this.

[Ebro Darden]

They said the. They said the rapists and the murderers and the sex offenders, you know, and for Clarity.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Anybody watching this, wherever you're watching this, I think it's 80%, 70 something percent of the people that they've detained. No criminal.

[Laura Styles]

Right? Yeah, yeah. And their excuses. Well, they came here illegally and that's their crime. That makes them.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But that's not a crime.

[Laura Styles]

People don't understand that. It's cruelty, guys. It's cruelty. They just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If. If you. If you flew into the United States and you overstayed your visa, hypothetically speaking, I think it's a civil misdemeanor, which is the equivalent of like nothing. Not paying parking tickets or something, or.

[Ebro Darden]

You'Re saying not the worst of the worst.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, not. Not by a far stretch. I don't know if you guys want to get to the worst of the worst. Do we want to take this. This into a bad place?

[Ebro Darden]

Well, real quick, before we do, because I'm still on that subject.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

I did want to shout out Shabuzzi, who, when he won his Grammy, had a awesome statement about immigrants. I don't know if you guys saw Shaboozi's speech.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

But I thought he was fantastic.

[Laura Styles]

He got some backlash on.

[Ebro Darden]

Of course he did. And then I do think that the Jelly Roll conversation is interesting, that Jelly Roll didn't want to say anything, but then said, I'm going to say something this week. But, but, but here's the thing. But Jelly Roll did say in his acceptance speech, which he made all about Christ, he's a pretty religious guy. He did specifically say, christianity is not for one party. Christianity is for everyone. So I was curious about where he's going to go. And then he did. Everyone's killing him because he didn't want to say anything, but.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, no, I think. I think it's not that he didn't want to say anything. I think it was. He tried to act like he didn't have a phone and he didn't know what was going on and he didn't have an opinion.

[Soundboard/Producer (e.g., 'You played yourself' clips)]

Congratulations.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's like, look, I. I don't even have social media. As a matter of fact, I don't even have a phone for it.

[Ebro Darden]

Like, what are we talking? Who am I? What's happening?

[Laura Styles]

And then people started pulling up all the Instagram photos of him, I think with Christy Gnome and other.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, no, that's not what.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know why he was a Christie. There was one of him at the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Guys. I don't know if you guys. He's a country. He does country music. I don't know if you. The population of people that he sells his. I mean, tickets for and. And music. Consumes his music is.

[Ebro Darden]

But there's. Hold on. But there's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They're into this.

[Ebro Darden]

But there's way more to it than that. With Jelly Roll. Number one, he was a rapper for a very long time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That means nothing.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay, I'm just. I'm just putting out there to me anyway, I hear you, but hear me out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So was Kid Rock. You know what I'm saying?

[Laura Styles]

Fact.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm gonna give Ebro a point on that one. But I. But Jelly Roll is definitively not Kid Rock.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I'm not saying. I'm just saying. You said he was a rapper.

[Ebro Darden]

No, that's a great point. He was. Kid Rock was a dj.

[Peter Rosenberg]

People use people using people using art forms that were created by. Marginalized and then becoming.

[Ebro Darden]

You're right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not. Not valid.

[Ebro Darden]

But really great guy. In my experience, right? Like, really great guy. It would surprise me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Seemingly nice guy.

[Ebro Darden]

Seemingly nice guy. And I did find one other thing interesting. When he said. He said they asked him who he wants to see at the super bowl and one day or whatever, and he's like, I would love it if it comes to Nashville for there to be a country one, right? And when he named the ax to be on the country one, my man named like five known progressive country acts, okay? And then eventually said, and young people like Morgan Wallen. And named like, one other person. But I did find it interesting that his start was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but you're looking, right? These are all great people. You're looking good one. He is good, by the way. He is good. He's just not brave. He's not the chicks. He's not the Dixie Chicks. Not willing to risk.

[Ebro Darden]

But he said we're gonna. He said this week we're gonna hear something.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So he gave us a tease. Really, bro, Stop. Come on, man.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, I guess you're right. It's not great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, he flubbed it. He gets the button. He's probably a nice guy.

[Soundboard/Producer (e.g., 'You played yourself' clips)]

You played.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm not, you know, I'm not up here to fry Jelly Roll, but I'm definitely not gonna be like, yo, but he used to be a rapper.

[Ebro Darden]

Would you ever have a fried jelly roll? Think about. About it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is it good?

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It sounds good.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm not up here to fry jelly Roll. Sounds crazy. No, you're right. You're right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I'll tell you this. I tell you what I see in Jelly Roll is someone who wants to be a nice guy, make great music and bring people Together. Boom. When challenged with something controversial, he doesn't have. He doesn't know where to. Where to go or what to say.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what I'm saying? And, and, and most people are going to fry for that. They're definitely going to be like, yo, you're being a little bitch.

[Ebro Darden]

And how you going back with the old Breaking Bad bitch?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Had to. And on the Shaboozy thing, what, did he get fried for it?

[Laura Styles]

Because he said immigrants built this country.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, not exactly, sir.

[Laura Styles]

That's.

[Soundboard/Producer (e.g., 'You played yourself' clips)]

Congratulations.

[Ebro Darden]

I think he meant. I think that. Oh, they were saying, like, he was saying. Not black people.

[Laura Styles]

Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, you mean the word immigrant.

[Laura Styles]

I think he could.

[Ebro Darden]

He.

[Laura Styles]

He should have said helped.

[Ebro Darden]

He.

[Jimmy Kimmel (clip)]

He.

[Ebro Darden]

I have to. I might have to rewatch it. But either way, don't we think that's probably. I mean, he's a black American man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, no, he's. He's. He's first generation Nigerian. His parents.

[Ebro Darden]

Generation.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's Nigerian.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right. I thought he was American.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I thought he is American.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, but he's first generation.

[Peter Rosenberg]

His parents are Nigerian. His name is Nigerian.

[Ebro Darden]

He's not a descendant of people.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He is not a descendant of enslaved African people.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay, but don't we still imagine that was a misspeak rather than.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, Shaboos is a great guy.

[Ebro Darden]

Like, where people really.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, I don't think he meant it that. I don't think he was trying to.

[Ebro Darden]

Say the right thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, but listen, it's a sensitive time. People. People are sensitive. And remember, they're watching shabuzzi because he makes country music. But is he gonna pull a post Malone?

[Ebro Darden]

But that's all the more reason.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why is he gonna pull a jelly roll and claim, you know, people are gonna be like, well, he's black and he said it.

[Ebro Darden]

But you realize how annoyingly sensitive this is. He tried in the moment to say the right thing.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

But then. So I assume it was black people who were then mad, him saying, no, but you're not included. And he is black and a descendant of Africa. His parents are African and he's black. And he just tried to do right to represent for immigrants. And then the black people were like, us, guys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it wasn't. It wasn't an a what about us? I would imagine. I didn't see it, Laura. I'm imagining it was a. A stone cold out of here. It wasn't a what about us?

[Laura Styles]

But yeah, it was more like, okay, that's not.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But immigrants did help build this country.

[Laura Styles]

That's what he Meant if he would have said helped. I. I think that he wouldn't have got.

[Ebro Darden]

So if he. So if he threw in one more word, problem solved.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But also people are looking to your point. People want to fry somebody and everybody could get it right now.

[Ebro Darden]

I just thought as a country artist, it was the opposite of jelly roll. It was a very. Like he stepped up there, took the moment and said, I'm going to talk about this ICE thing and this immigration thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, because Shabuzi doesn't have to be afraid. You know why? Because he tried to play nice and they was playing with his name at the damn Country Music Awards. And you know what else? He's. He's being nice and he's still being positive. And they didn't even give him awards for his big ass record. Remember that? They kind of snubbed him a few.

[Laura Styles]

Times and they made fun of him on stage.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Remember they was making fun of his name?

[Ebro Darden]

No, I remember very well. Yeah, well, he knows. I mean, Shabuzi knows.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And really his name. Shabuzi, yeah. Was, as he explained it to me, his foot, I think his football coach. Yeah, because his real name is Shab.

[Ebro Darden]

That's unclean. I don't. Listen, he's not here to tell us if it's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it sound clean.

[Ebro Darden]

You see me Shab sound get on fire.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hey, yo, Laura, are you ready for the rundown? You want an intro? Yes, Laura got the rundown.

[Ebro Darden]

Turned out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's go. Super chat. Thank you, man. We'll shout the super chat in a second. What you got, Laura? Staff.

[Laura Styles]

All right, well, J. Cole announced something special. A series of specially curated listening sessions. All right, all right, so the one in New York is going to be at the Brooklyn Public Library, hosted by DJ Nyla Simone. And it's supposed to be a night of top tier lyricism and discussions, so it should be a lot of fun. That's on Friday, February 6th.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It sounds like a lyricist lounge type of vibe. I like it.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what I'm saying? Poetry, books, smart people and hip hop. I didn't know where's Black Dante when you need him?

[Ebro Darden]

I didn't know if that event was. Is like her regular event. Books and what's it called again?

[Laura Styles]

Bars and books.

[Ebro Darden]

It's a dope idea, though. I love it. Fire.

[Laura Styles]

I love it. And so he's also holding special listening sessions in of course, North Carolina, Baltimore, Houston and other locations to be announced. All right, but they're all like discussions, you know, interactive sessions of blah, blah, blah. They're not like your typical listening session.

[Ebro Darden]

That's what he's saying. We know that for to be a fact.

[Laura Styles]

And when you, when you swipe through all the flyers, it has like little tidbits of one of them is like a write out.

[Ebro Darden]

Also, do you think that there's any chance now that we've been unceremoniously dismissed from commercial radio that J. Cole actually have a conversation with us at some point?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Unceremoniously dismissed from commercial radio is great.

[Ebro Darden]

Because we have a million years hit him in ass. Maybe whoever got him on Apple even.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, he doesn't do inter. You know, Cole's not.

[Ebro Darden]

He did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Angie, I. Look, I like the fact that Cole doesn't do interviews. I'm into it.

[Laura Styles]

We used to see him all the time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I mean, I'm into it. I, I only selfishly as a hip hop fan. Not selfishly as like for my job. Of course I would love to have him up. But there's.

[Ebro Darden]

You like that he like doesn't overexpose himself.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, and I like that it's in the music, right? Like, I think there's artists who, they do so much outside of their music and then they wonder why people don't listen to their music.

[Ebro Darden]

It's like.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, because they got all the info already.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, that's fact.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's fact.

[Ebro Darden]

I'd still like to have a chat with him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Of course, of course.

[Ebro Darden]

But he's not promoting, you know, the last time I talked to him, he's like promoting Hudat. It might.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What year was it?

[Ebro Darden]

No, it wasn't literally that. I did a couple of things with him over the first few years, but it's been, I mean, forever.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it's not as if he's running around doing it.

[Ebro Darden]

No, he doesn't run around doing interviews.

[Laura Styles]

Also, Lil Wayne had some words about the Grammys. I don't know if you guys saw this, but he said congrats to the nominees and winners. Wasn't included as usual. Well, gotta work harder as usual.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, just make a good album if you want to be included.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait, what, what, what would Wayne. Oh, what do you drop Carter Sixes here?

[Ebro Darden]

Didn't he?

[Peter Rosenberg]

And that was supposed to be in it.

[Ebro Darden]

He thought that was, that was because you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, it was good.

[Ebro Darden]

No, I mean, not really.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was good. It was good.

[Ebro Darden]

Does it require your voice to get a little higher?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was cool.

[Ebro Darden]

It was one of those.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, that's when you know you sound.

[Ebro Darden]

Like a bird all of a sudden.

[Laura Styles]

Also just announced Lil Wayne is set to perform at a virtual halftime show during super bowl week. So, yeah, it's official.

[Ebro Darden]

Hit me, Bascom.

[Laura Styles]

He's headlining the show inside the hugely popular mobile game Clash Royale.

[Ebro Darden]

Huh?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, he's getting a bag, guys. Like, I don't. Are we supposed to be shady towards him? Is he not supposed to do the bag? Like, what are we saying?

[Ebro Darden]

Last year, Last year, he. He went on the Lil Wayne. Why? They didn't. Why didn't they pick me, Tor.

[Peter Rosenberg]

God. Oh, I forgot about that.

[Ebro Darden]

And then the next year when we're all in for Bad Bunny and everyone's locked in. Listen, if you can get money, who cares? Enjoy yourself.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He might be getting a few million dollars.

[Ebro Darden]

He could. In which case, who cares if he's getting a.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's for a gambling site. Yeah. Oh, he's definitely getting a few million either.

[Laura Styles]

I don't need Clash Royale or a game or something.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know what that is.

[Ebro Darden]

Nah. Enjoy yourself.

[Laura Styles]

But speaking of super bowl halftime show, did you guys see that? The Kid Rock Turning Point usa, baby. So he's going to be performing with Brantley Gilbert Lee Bryce and Gabby Barrett. I don't know anything.

[Ebro Darden]

Not Kid Rock. Listen close. Here's the crazy part. You're so washed out here.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, God.

[Ebro Darden]

You didn't even get a country person. I've heard of, of, like, I, I. Maybe some of those people are well known. Griff and you know what I mean? Maybe. No, even Griff. Griff knows everybody white. He doesn't even know who they are. That is crazy. He can't get anyone to stand next to you.

[Laura Styles]

It's the all American.

[Ebro Darden]

Not even Nicki Minaj.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, you know what Kid Rock. Make the call, yo.

[Ebro Darden]

Make the call. She's there all the time anyway. This is her.

[Peter Rosenberg]

She might do it. She might do it. Why not? Like, if you're Nicki Minaj right now and they got the right bag to pop up or they. Or they'll give you the actual gold card that you were trying to get. They gave her a fake John. Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

You know how crazy we have. People think we spent a lot of time on Nikki. We could have done a whole show on. The gold card was fake.

[Soundboard/Producer (e.g., 'You played yourself' clips)]

Congratulations.

[Ebro Darden]

Although I hate. I hate when I post about this because my. For the next three days, my mentions are just psychos going back and forth.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, so the bar. The barbs is tough out here still.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, it's not even like they're not the same as they used to be. Okay, but they're going back and forth and then you'll get, like, the cardi b people fighting with them in your comments, and you're like, I don't even know what you guys are talking about anymore.

[Laura Styles]

That's all I see when I open Twitter.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's like, I just want to say, el army we're looking for. You know what I mean? If you. If you work from home and you have time to harass mean people on social media, sign up for the El Army. We need one of those. You know, El army wants you post.

[Ebro Darden]

You want to be the uncle Sam?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, we want one of those posts.

[Ebro Darden]

No, Ebro as Uncle Sam is a crazy, crazy AI concept that we need.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, God.

[Ebro Darden]

Sorry. You still have more stories?

[Laura Styles]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Ebro Darden]

Running down.

[Laura Styles]

So TI Announced that this coming album is his final album.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, he's done.

[Laura Styles]

Yo, his. His new song with Pharrell was fire.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I like the new joint with Pharrell. Super fire.

[Laura Styles]

Here is the video of him talking about it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You got new music out though, right?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, man. It's a blessing, man. Let them know. Produced by my first. My first single off my final album. She got an ascot on too, or something.

[Laura Styles]

You're not. You're gonna be done.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Are you?

[Laura Styles]

Breaking news right here, right now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They should know it. They should already know it.

[Ebro Darden]

No, but.

[Laura Styles]

Okay, but why?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, man, it's time. God gives us. I just made $80 million in a lawsuit. Why am I still rapping? I have many gifts that God has given me, man. I could spend more time and attention on and spend more time at home, my family, my grandchildren, you know? I mean, there's plenty of stuff to do.

[Laura Styles]

Do you believe him? That this is it, he's gonna be done?

[Soundboard/Producer (e.g., 'You played yourself' clips)]

He's been saying it for a while.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, so, yeah, I'm gonna say yeah. Well, look, well, I'm glad.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm glad. I'm glad Tiny does, cuz. I don't believe it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I. I'll give him this. There might be something in him. He was looking for a creative outlet. People didn't. I got. I never saw him do stuff stand up, and I never. I missed the whole stand up thing. I saw his name on some things, but I never tuned into it. Not for any reason. But clearly he was looking for a creative outlet. So he did that thing. Yeah, as you said, Laura Styles, he cut his hair. I just had him on Apple Music during. He was at Versus, and I was talking to him about cutting his hair because that's the brand, right? Like that clean lineup, you know, with the hat, with the Hat tilted on the thing. And the whole thing is. Is the. Is the brand. So he might just need to get this one last thing out the door. Roseburg. I think the law. They got 80. Am I lying? Did they get. They got 80 million when they did OMG, girl lawsuit or something.

[Laura Styles]

I don't know. It was a lot of back and forth.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But.

[Laura Styles]

But he. I mean, they're good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They're good. They're good. And I'm gonna tell you this. His son Damani is fire.

[Ebro Darden]

Really?

[Peter Rosenberg]

What, you haven't listened to Damani, bro? No, bro.

[Ebro Darden]

Really good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

His son Damani as an artist and a rapper, musically, lyrically, fire and a great kid.

[Ebro Darden]

Wow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, I guess he's not a kid anymore.

[Ebro Darden]

How's he putting out music? Just indie.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Indie, I think. I don't know what label it's on.

[Ebro Darden]

Haven't peeped him yet.

[Laura Styles]

You know who's going to be a star? His youngest daughter.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, she's the one singing.

[Laura Styles]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura Styles]

She's going to be on Broadway or something.

[Peter Rosenberg]

TI is coming by hand, though.

[Laura Styles]

That little girl is amazing.

[Ebro Darden]

I just. Listen, I'm fine if it's his last album. I'm fine if he says it's his last album. Then decide. I don't care. Do whatever you want. But, like, look at the guy. He still looks like he's in the prime of his life. Like, he's not going to go home now and just be with his family. Like, he's like, well, no, remember.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Remember, I think they own, like, Bankhead Seafood. They own.

[Laura Styles]

I'm saying they own a lot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He has mad businesses. He's definitely not just sitting at home.

[Ebro Darden]

I know, but my point is, I'm always down to play the game with people because it's a fun idea. No, just say this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just say this. He's telling us he's retiring so that we run and support this album with. With real life. What I'm looking for, not intensity, vigor, but, like, you know, like, we are. We're focused on a passion. Sure.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm down.

[Peter Rosenberg]

TI's retiring. This is it.

[Ebro Darden]

I'll support it.

[Laura Styles]

I could see. You know me, I could see him. This is his final album and he'll jump on other people's records.

[Ebro Darden]

Records, Laura.

[Laura Styles]

Sure.

[Ebro Darden]

Laura. He's. I don't know if tip is 50. I don't think he is. I think he's probably just short of 50. Not make and I. He's going to create again. He's an artist like this. I just don't know why we rappers Always play this game of, like, marketing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Rosenberg, could we come up with a new marketing?

[Ebro Darden]

I just did this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Jay Colette's retiring too.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, God.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The Fall off isn't the. The Fall Offs, the, like, retirement album. This is it.

[Ebro Darden]

He's just gonna ride bikes and play basketball?

[Laura Styles]

Maybe, I guess.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay.

[Laura Styles]

Anyway, let's go to the lowdown.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, we got that intro too.

[Laura Styles]

Hold on to your speakers.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, yeah.

[Laura Styles]

With Laura Styles.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Fire.

[Laura Styles]

I love it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And now. Now, Laura, we have expectations when you go to the lowdown, because this is supposed to be low down. Dirty, messy, ratchet.

[Laura Styles]

Well, it's definitely messy, and I think it's ratchet, but here we go. So do you remember the guy who was fighting in court trying to claim that Jay Z was his biological father?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, yes.

[Laura Styles]

His name is Ramire Satterway.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Laura Styles]

So he's been doing this for years. And finally a judge was like, bro, he ruled against his side, and then it's supposed to be done, right? Well, he started posting text messages on X that a lot of people found very interesting. In his post, he was thanking Nicki Minaj and President and Mr. President. He did not explain what type of help he was talking about, but he was reposting messages saying that Nicki Minaj supports him and that a lot of other people have his back. And then people are buzzing that they're probably trying to go back to this damn DNA case.

[Ebro Darden]

Nicki Minaj, huh? Mr. President, this is where we are, folks. This is America.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't even know what I'm supposed to do with this information. I'm not supposed to, like, be mad at these people. I don't know. Listen, when you are as dominant and successful as Jay Z in so many ways, people coming for you.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, but you don't think it's interesting after a judge just shut. Shut it down, that all of a sudden he's getting help from Nicki Minaj?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, that's what I'm saying. She's the people coming. I think the Nicki. I'm not sure why. Nicki Minaj has a whole thing with Jay Z and the ROC Nation. I don't know what it is. People have speculated that it's about the title money she didn't get or something.

[Laura Styles]

Yes, that's what she was saying.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But then I saw an interview with Steve Stout where he was telling. I forget who he was telling. He was telling somebody. She didn't sign her paperwork.

[Laura Styles]

I saw that too.

[Ebro Darden]

So I'm just confused by the story. So what does this mean exactly?

[Laura Styles]

We don't know. It was just on Twitter, but it was just people.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is Laura being messy?

[Laura Styles]

Cuz you know me, I think the whole thing is messy. You don't think it's messy with Laura? I do, but.

[Ebro Darden]

When's it from?

[Laura Styles]

Yesterday.

[Ebro Darden]

That's when the letter's from the letter. It's where the tweets.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He tweeted Nikki in the press saying.

[Laura Styles]

Thank you for having my back.

[Ebro Darden]

Huh, Interesting.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What are they saying in the chat there? Roseburg, Laura, thank you for the lowdown and the rundown today. What are they saying? Who we shouting in super chat?

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, super chat. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's get focused, people. People throwing money at us.

[Ebro Darden]

I have a lot of super chat. You know What I'm saying, JR? Five mics said nah, 45 hit differently. I pulled a muscle reaching up for a cabinet. Yeah, I'm a former athlete, so it hurt my whole soul.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, my God.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Focus on former. Any of you former athletes? If you haven't. If you don't move around or do anything on a daily basis, it's over. And by the way, it's over within weeks, not months. Especially after like 35, 38 years old. Your body does not hold on to flexibility. None of that.

[Ebro Darden]

J Dubs says, good morning. Love you guys. Proud fought. I must let you know that according to my tracking number, as of 122 USPS, I'm still awaiting the item.

[Laura Styles]

What?

[Peter Rosenberg]

His T shirt.

[Laura Styles]

It's coming.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Merch manager. He's waiting on his goddamn T shirt.

[Laura Styles]

Have some patience.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yo, it's been two weeks, bro.

[Ebro Darden]

But he said 122.

[Laura Styles]

It's coming. It's coming. It's a one man show right now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's not. Nobody wants to hear that, Laura. They paid something. Listen, they didn't. It was a one man show.

[Laura Styles]

I didn't say you were going to get in three to five days, did I? No. So you're gonna wait. You want your merch, you wait.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, shout out to Layla Milan, who just gave us a lot of money.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why is Laura yelling at people, man?

[Ebro Darden]

You're making it worse.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it's still funny. It's not funny to you that Laura's yelling at people that spent their money?

[Ebro Darden]

No, in saying get getting mad and saying shut up and wait. These are people who just want to support our culture.

[Laura Styles]

But Laura just like, bro, you're getting your damn merch, Laura.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Aren't we?

[Laura Styles]

You said it every time you've asked me on the show. I said it's coming. Be patient.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait, but Laura aren't we going to drop merch every month.

[Laura Styles]

Maybe if you act right.

[Ebro Darden]

Maybe if you act right. It's insane.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nah, it's crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

I've never seen anything like this crazy, bro. You want this? Should we get this up there?

[Peter Rosenberg]

They have it. Have it? I think they have it.

[Ebro Darden]

You guys have the new graphic for Ebro?

[Peter Rosenberg]

How long have we been sitting on this graphic?

[Ebro Darden]

No, we just got it today.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Today?

[Ebro Darden]

It's piping hot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, wow. Who do we get it from? Did we know?

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, my God. All right, Bascom's got it. I saw. I just saw him loaded up. Let's see how. Let's see if it pops in here. Hey, yo.

[Laura Styles]

All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Pops in here.

[Ebro Darden]

Here it comes in three and a two and there. There.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know who that is, but what do you.

[Ebro Darden]

That looks.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Bro, that looks like me. Is that what I look like?

[Ebro Darden]

Laura, you don't think that looks like you, bro?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, it does a. Jace.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, that's pretty.

[Ebro Darden]

But listen, that's pretty good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, no, and if they just did it in, like, five minutes. Minutes, like, you know, why not put it back up there? What happened? We got not, bro.

[Ebro Darden]

This. Laura, who does this look like if not Ebro?

[Laura Styles]

It looks like Eroy J's.

[Jimmy Kimmel (clip)]

Look.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's not bad.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it, like, it's like, but, like, for. Yeah, like, it's got the sharpness of your eyebrows down.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know. They nailed the eyebrows.

[Ebro Darden]

The level of gray in your beard knocked it out. No, I'm not mad at this at all.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The El army wants you.

[Ebro Darden]

That's join the Join the family loyalty.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I, like, stay loyal is a stretch, you know? It feels aggressive. It feels like a gang.

[Ebro Darden]

No, we appreciate it, though.

[Peter Rosenberg]

El army wants you.

[Ebro Darden]

That's very funny.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What about that one got sent just now, too? How's that one right there? Rosenberg.

[Ebro Darden]

Wow, that's. That's a real photo, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They just.

[Ebro Darden]

No, I like that one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You like that one?

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, seeing Ebro going full Apollo Creed and Rocky4 is crazy. Yeah, I, I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But now. So now we've. We've got this part, but what do they do to be a part of the El Army? Has that been set up? Yo, King Lou, what's going on with the El Army?

[Ebro Darden]

He just yelled, set it up. I don't know what either of you were talking about. What are you asking him to do? Well, we.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He had a call with a company that actually would, like, help us, like, engage with people who are our most active people.

[Ebro Darden]

You mean, like, create bots?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I Don't know if it's create bots, but it's just, like, rewards and different things for people who are, like, super active in our.

[Ebro Darden]

This is the thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's the thing. There's companies that do this. Matter of fact, I learned that this is how, like, a lot of artists, like, sell tickets to their, like, core base first.

[Ebro Darden]

Got it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what I'm saying? So they're using these companies to be like, yo, I'm in this town. You know, and it helps them with their. What is it like, social media? Figure out where your people are listening. Because, you know, the next iteration of this is, you know, brands are going to want us to do activations. You guys know that's coming.

[Ebro Darden]

Coming. Yeah, I hope so.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So we got to do events, which means we got to get people in a room, which means we need to engage with our fans.

[Ebro Darden]

I. I'm. I'm with you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's all. Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

You know, I. I just never. I didn't realize it's an actual, like.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, that's.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know until we started this. How many companies there are that do things like how many people there are making money in this world?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

That means there are that many businesses that are making money off of all the people making money.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Laura Styles]

Yep. Yep.

[Ebro Darden]

Shasha.

[Laura Styles]

Shasha.

[Ebro Darden]

Shasha. It's S H A. S H A. Shasha. Shasha.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Maybe it's Shasha.

[Ebro Darden]

Y' all are doing great. Keep up these podcasts. I enjoy them every morning. And ps, I did not receive my T shirt.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How about you, Shasha?

[Ebro Darden]

Shut your mouth.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Shut up. Nah. As well. Shut up.

[Ebro Darden]

But I ain't sweating it. I know. Y' all got me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Me.

[Laura Styles]

Yes, Sasha.

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, Shasha can't wait to wear it now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How did Rah get his shirt so fast?

[Laura Styles]

Because it was shipped in waves.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. But why wouldn't we, like, make my shirt.

[Ebro Darden]

You have my Sha shirt.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did you buy one?

[Ebro Darden]

No.

[Laura Styles]

He wants a free one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nah, you got to pay.

[Ebro Darden]

I just told Ricardo I wanted one. I'm happy to pay for it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, no, you got to pay.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, you're.

[Ebro Darden]

You're.

[Laura Styles]

You're just coming at the end.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay, that's fine. It's the coolest cat says, why don't y' all just use printout? Printout for merch. They print and ship merch for you. I use it for my Etsy shop because we want to be able to, like, have a certain level of quality.

[Laura Styles]

Yes. Quality is actually really good. Wait till you get it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait. Rahsaan how's the quality?

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, no, he's hype.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That was whack. Evening on Patreon. No, we're not recruiting. No. We're not charging people to be in the El Arm.

[Ebro Darden]

No, you can join the El Army.

[Don Lemon (clip)]

It's hacked.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Elrme or my.

[Ebro Darden]

Now I'm feeling good about this thing. I've been seeing a lot of people talking about their enjoyment of the show on a daily basis.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's good.

[Ebro Darden]

Having a daily show is pretty unique for the Internet world, I think.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Really?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, I think so. I mean, you get things like the Daily, which is a news podcast, or like BBC News or things like that. But like.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But a live 8am show every day. Every day.

[Laura Styles]

You know, if you miss that, you get. You get to catch it later.

[Ebro Darden]

And then you have a Patreon, which, like, for example, tomorrow we're dropping a new episode of the Patreon. You know, that's. That's just more content for that ass.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Me and Rosemary got an argument on the Patreon. It's not a real one.

[Ebro Darden]

We did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Because I. I didn't. You know, you were like, the Patreon's got to be different. Then we got on the Patreon and did stuff that we would do on the ELR show.

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, over time, you're. You're very big on the things. All things all have to happen in a second. Second. I'm. I'm big on. We gotta be in a rhythm.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I'm just big on if people pay for something, we do good customer service. And we don't yell at people because they pay for something or we let them down.

[Ebro Darden]

Once they cut to Laura when she's being yelled at like that. Basco. See the. See, there you go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Look, before we get up out of here today, we got to get to the gurus. The original guru.

[Laura Styles]

Sure, let's do it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't have the. The harps. The strings. Yeah, you do.

[Laura Styles]

Get your harps together.

[Ebro Darden]

What are they?

[Peter Rosenberg]

What's the name of that file? Hang on.

[Ebro Darden]

Chimes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Chimes. All right, let me look for chimes. Hang on.

[Ebro Darden]

Sent that to you a couple days ago. Yeah, but in the meantime.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it wasn't edited, remember?

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, yeah. We had to clean it up. My bad.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, you did. Let me see if this works.

[Laura Styles]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

Cool. Shouts to Danielle now Again. It was too loud.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh. Oh, well, no, you know why? Cuz it's not edited.

[Ebro Darden]

Wait, here we go. Wait for it. 3, 2, 1. And.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There we go.

[Laura Styles]

All right.

[Ebro Darden]

Shout out to Danielle. Real quick. She said she sent us a DM to our page. Please check.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And what were you DMing us about Danielle?

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know.

[Laura Styles]

We get. We get some crazy dms.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What are they saying in there?

[Laura Styles]

Lor stupid know we have some amazing ones and a lot of people.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I want crazy dms. New segment on the show.

[Laura Styles]

We don't need that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nah, come on.

[Laura Styles]

We don't need that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why?

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, because they're not that entertaining. I've seen some.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Do we believe Laura Styles?

[Ebro Darden]

We want dicks.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Whoa, whoa. We're live. What are you doing?

[Laura Styles]

No, we don't.

[Ebro Darden]

I met. What's in Laura's inst. I don't want to see what's in her DMs, because, you know, that's.

[Laura Styles]

That doesn't happen anymore.

[Ebro Darden]

Those days are done.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, no. This is not Laura's dm.

[Ebro Darden]

The show dm.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The show.

[Ebro Darden]

You don't think they send them to the show DM just hoping she'll see it now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They might.

[Laura Styles]

What the hell?

[Ebro Darden]

I was just trying to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen.

[Ebro Darden]

I know there are enough people out there that don't like me, so I feel like, why not just give them that meme for them to have? Or it just says it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, well, isolate, Isolate.

[Laura Styles]

All right, all right, you ready?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm trying to start. The guru of times. Wait. King Lou has something. I do not want to see dicks all day.

[Ebro Darden]

All right, King Lou has said he does not echo my sentiment.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I got it.

[Ebro Darden]

And he. He is the guy who sees the dms, is not interested in the schm.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, I'm gonna hit these damn harp one more time.

[Laura Styles]

Okay? Ah, let's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The original gurus.

[Laura Styles]

Original gurus. Gmail.com. the original gurus at Gmail.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why can't you stay focus?

[Ebro Darden]

Because my wife listens to the show too much. She just wrote me. In all seriousness. She wrote, we want dicks is crazy. Babe, please don't say that again. No, she sounds, like, seriously annoyed that I. Please don't say that again. And she's being serious.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're embarrassing her. Is that the problem?

[Ebro Darden]

She doesn't know that I've always. I always.

[Peter Rosenberg]

She never listened to the show.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, she did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

She did.

[Ebro Darden]

She loved. She loved the show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, she. She jokes sometimes. She'll be like, it's so crazy that I have Rosenberg's baby. I really listened to you. Like, I was a fan. I love your show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is it weird for her?

[Ebro Darden]

No, she will regularly be like, isn't that crazy? I have a baby with Peter Rosenberg. I was like, yeah, you, like, were excited. Now you're not even interested. Like, your whole life has gone full circle. Here we are. All right, but you should know, babe, I say crazy things intentionally sometimes. All right, here we go, guys. All right, Original Gurus. The original GurusMail.com. dear Gurus, First, I'm a huge and loyal fan of the show, and I really appreciate how you never left us.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Aww.

[Ebro Darden]

My mornings are brighter because of you, so thank you. I'm writing because I truly need perspective, guidance, and clarity. I've dealt with my son's father on and off since 2010. The relationship was always unhealthy and full of disrespect. I was young and tolerated more than I should have have. In 2020, I became pregnant with our son. He was in another relationship and not present during my pregnancy. I think you know the button that you need to. I'm sorry.

[Soundboard/Producer (e.g., 'You played yourself' clips)]

Congratulations. You played yourself.

[Ebro Darden]

I accepted early on that I would raise my son alone, and I have. My son is now 5 years old and the light of my life. I have taken care of him financially and physically since day one with no help from his father. His involvement has been inconsistent and entirely on his terms. I completely stopped dealing with him before my son was born. Through time, I made it clear that I didn't need or want him for anything personally. And his behavior changed. He began showing up unannounced, questioning my movements, and using my son as a way to control me. I also noticed serious red flags, including emotional instability and substance issues, which I do not want around my child. A year ago, the situation escalated. When I asked him to leave my home because it was getting late. He violently assaulted me in front of my son. I was badly injured, transported to the hospital by ambulance.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, my God.

[Ebro Darden]

And he was later arrested after fleeing the scene.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Damn.

[Ebro Darden]

I just want to be clear. This may be a little bit over the guru's pay grade, but we're going to do our best. I now have orders of protection for both me and my son. I am also in family court. That is a whole other nightmare. I've incurred significant legal expenses simply trying to protect myself and my child. Despite the violence and the evidence, I feel like the system continues to give him access, leniency, and benefit of the death that I don't feel he has earned. Recently, his friend reached out to initially check on my son, but began to express concern about how difficult the legal consequences would be for my son's father. His family has also disappeared from my son's life. There has been no concern for the child who witnessed the violence. So here's where I need guidance. How do you stay strong and protect your child when you've been made to feel like the villain, although you're the victim? How do you navigate a system that seems more focused on giving chances than protecting a child? How do you stand firm when guilt and manipulation are used to make you feel responsible for someone else's consequences? I don't want revenge. I want safety. I want peace, and I want protection for my son. I also want accountability. I'm raising a little boy to understand that love is not control, fear, or violence. And I refuse to teach him that abuse is something women are expected to endure. Thank you for giving people like me a space to be heard. I would truly appreciate your perspective with gratitude and appreciation. Why?

[Laura Styles]

Oh, man, this is a tough one.

[Ebro Darden]

That really.

[Laura Styles]

I know. I mean, I think you need to lean on those. Those words that you just wrote at the end. You need to lean on safety, because that's the number one thing. Safety and a healthy environment for your child. I could easily see family members trying to manipulate you, making you feel bad, because I've been there before.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, remember the person to your point, Laura Stiles, the person who has physically abused her was raised by those people.

[Laura Styles]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So, not saying that that's always the case, but in this case, you'd have to assume that they equally or also have toxic behavior and. And.

[Ebro Darden]

And judgment.

[Laura Styles]

Well, they're giving him a pass, obviously, because they're trying to convince her to make it all go away. So that means that you're okay with this? I think you're doing the right thing, and I think you need to stand strong. I think you wanting a healthy environment for your child is the best thing you could ask for. And I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There is no time.

[Laura Styles]

He shows up. When you have a order of protection, call the cops.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm assuming they're in family court because he wants to see his kid. Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

She said family court, Right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Did say we're in family court. He wants. He's trying to see his kid. So I think the way it works is because you and this person had an issue that was physical. And I come from a. An environment where my dad used to beat my mom, and I saw it, and my mom took us. Left my dad, and then we were missing kids for a while, and my mom actually got arrested for taking me and my brother away from the environment. Right. And so that. Those are two separate things. A father wanting to see a child and then two adults having a problem. Because if there's not evidence that that father has abused that child, why wouldn't he be able to see his child? Because I think that's what she's.

[Laura Styles]

He can't control himself, though.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I know what you're saying, and I'm not saying you're incorrect, but I think the courts see it as. Just because you and this person have an issue doesn't mean this person doesn't get to see his child.

[Ebro Darden]

Child.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And if the court says, hey, he gets an opportunity to see his child. And until he does something, it's just kind of like when people are saying, hey, I have a stalker, or somebody's threatening me, and the police are like, well, nothing's actually happened, so we can't do anything.

[Ebro Darden]

What does she do, though, is the question.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think she has to. She has to a, be confident that the world that she's exposing to her son. Same way my mom was con. Well, I don't know in the moment if she was confident, but. But she knew she had to expose me to a world that was different than my father's world. So that you're doing that. So trust that your son is going to learn positive behavior from you directing him and having him in an environment where later on in life he doesn't have these traits. But also you should trust and know that, like, for me, the things I learned not to be from my dad is also powerful.

[Laura Styles]

It is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right? So when you think about your parents, and this is for all of us, there are traits and things that you work on and things you work on not being. Because you saw how terrible your parents were. That's also them teaching you a lesson, whether, you know, we like how it happened or not. Sometimes it's the best lesson.

[Ebro Darden]

But it's such a crapshoot, because it is. Some people end up being influenced by it and some people are like you and literally won't even have like a. An argument in their house that's above a whisper because they're so affected by it. So I just want to say I don't have very much to offer here except I am so sorry and I feel you and I validate your feelings that it sucks that you are doing the right thing and you are being the one. You are the victim and you are being made to feel like the perpetrator. I hope you have a group of friends and loved ones who are like family who can support you and rally around you. I hope in that Group. And I, pardon me, you guys may think I'm being like immature here. I hope within that group of friends, maybe you have some loved ones who are men who can also be around and you can feel some level of protection. I don't know, because I'm not saying like I want them to beat them up, but like you do want to have some men around in your life who, if, if in a pinch you're like, hey, this, this guy is here. I don't know what to do. Like, I hope that you can have that. And that's why I'm saying like, like I'm not saying go run out and find a man, but I hope that there are other people in your circle that can make you feel safe. Because that's just a terrifying feeling. Yeah, if, if you're, I mean, listen, we, we know the facts. The people who harm women are men. Well, often loved ones that they know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And here's the other part, and this is important for your son and your family members and this for the emailer and anybody listening right now. In the beginning of this email, can you read like the first two sentences again, please? Do you have it?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because I believe she opted into this.

[Ebro Darden]

With this person, dealt with my son's father since 2010. Relationship was always unhealthy and full of disrespect. Yeah. So then you decided I was young and tolerated more than I should have.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. So I think that's also important here because this journey you're going on with your son and this journey that you're going on for yourself, it's important to learn from it because you signed up for this.

[Laura Styles]

You have to pay attention to those red flags, man. If your gut is telling you something, listen. But if you fear for the safety of your son in court, you can get supervised visits. You can figure out ways to like make it work where he can see his son. But you're not fearing for his safety. If that's a concern, well, the courts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Are going to dictate it.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, I guess that's really all we have, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

We wish you the best with that and we're, we're here for you. We appreciate you.

[Laura Styles]

I'm so sorry you're going through this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What my mom used to do is, and this started when I was like 5, 6 years old cuz my dad was also violent. Unfortunately I had to be the person that was dealing with my dad. My mom was not going to talk to him. And so even with like drop offs, they would meet at a Location. And then I would get out of one car and get into the other car.

[Ebro Darden]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And there was no communication at all.

[Ebro Darden]

Did that ever change when they got older? Did they communicate?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Ebro Darden]

I forget. They never did again.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, my mom never, never.

[Ebro Darden]

They never.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I have a picture I was actually looking at the other day at my graduation. My dad came to my high school graduate, and they might have said hello.

[Ebro Darden]

That's the only time you remember. Wow.

[Laura Styles]

Did you take a picture together?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, we were all together in the picture. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Laura Styles]

Okay. Wow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let me see if I can find.

[Ebro Darden]

Hey, on a less important note, share.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That with the people.

[Ebro Darden]

On a less important note, I know we already asked a lot of you. One thing we do not get a lot of in our chat, that I think we need to help push the show forward. We have, like, up to 3,000 people in here. We have 18 likes. We need more likes on the actual videos. When you're in the room, like, you gotta tap, like. I think the likes. I think the likes help in the algorithm of other people seeing it, et cetera. So the more people who can hit, like, in the. In the YouTube video, we'd appreciate it.

[Laura Styles]

Please.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right. Talk to him. Rosenberg.

[Laura Styles]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

King Lou comes and says yes.

[Laura Styles]

Thumbs up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thumbs up.

[Laura Styles]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why? What? Oh, there we go. Rosenberg with grills. What do you guys think? There you go.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, that's amazing. I immediately turn into Paul Wall with the grills.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You think so?

[Ebro Darden]

My whole face turns into Paul Wall. That's crazy. Why'd it change my. I might do this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You think that's the move? I don't think you should do full grill, though, though.

[Ebro Darden]

What do you think I should do?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think it's just a bottom row. Can somebody send a picture with just the bottom row? Just the bottom. Wait. Yo, that sounded crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

All right, guys.

[Laura Styles]

Well, thank you for joining us each and every day.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We appreciate outro music. Wait, hold up. Where's that outro?

[Laura Styles]

We love you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The Outro theme. Do I have that ready?

[Laura Styles]

Come on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't think I have it.

[Laura Styles]

Hit subscribe. Subscribe. Subscribe. Subscribe. And tell a friend to tell a friend we need more subscribers.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Damn, man.

[Laura Styles]

Guys, thumbs up, please. When you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, wait, I do have it. Thought I relabeled it. Outro. I didn't.

[Laura Styles]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

Nicholas Craven, baby.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You talked to this guy about this?

[Ebro Darden]

Not yet. I still got.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's gonna be sued.

[Ebro Darden]

We're just gonna get sued.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, man.

[Ebro Darden]

Top shelf. We need to hit Nicholas Craven. We're gonna hit him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Ebro.

[Laura Styles]

Laura.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Rosenberg is the show. The ELR Show. New Patreon drops tomorrow. As Rosenberg said, please, please hit the like button. Share this subscribe to this how is our subscriber count looking out here? We. Are we getting anywhere?

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Almost 48,000.

[Ebro Darden]

It's going up nicely.

[Laura Styles]

Come on, we need 50. We need 50. Come on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Trying to get to 50,000 by win. Laura Styles. By the time you get these people their T shirts. Hey, you the LR Show. Good morning, everybody. Don't call it a podcast.